ØnlyFans "Virgin" vs. Rollo Tomassi, Justin Waller, Mike Sartain | Dating Talk #72
Date: 2023-05-08
Duration: 4h 56m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00Mixed panel(audience)
SPEAKER_01TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Rosie/Ali(guest)
SPEAKER_03Female guest (situationship)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Nev(guest)
SPEAKER_05Farha/Nikki/Kylie(guest)
SPEAKER_06Crew(audience)
SPEAKER_07Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_08Michael Sartain(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Unidentified(audience)
SPEAKER_11Rollo Tomassi(guest)
SPEAKER_12Justin Waller(guest)
SPEAKER_13Kiki(host)
SPEAKER_14Aspen(guest)
Key Moments
00:05:36
IntroFarha introduces herself as a 24yo TikToker and OnlyFans creator; immediately followed by Nikki (18, warehouse).
00:07:48
IntroMichael Sartain enters as mystery guest, joking "I'm Mia Khalifa what's up" before revealing himself; age 45.
00:08:18
IntroJustin Waller introduces himself: construction, real estate, age 37. Keeps relationship status a "mystery."
00:08:27
IntroRollo Tomassi introduces himself: author of the Rational Male series, just turned 55, married 27 years (closed on both ends).
00:21:00
QuoteBrian announces show has reached 10,000+ concurrent viewers, a record for the Whatever podcast.
00:47:32
QuoteFarha reveals she is a virgin despite doing OnlyFans. Justin Waller responds with disbelief; Rollo connects it to hypergamy.
00:48:32
ControversyMichael Sartain asks Farha what kind of OnlyFans she does and presses on whether she has ever gotten close to sex; extended discussion of her virginity and pickiness.
00:59:36
ControversyRollo Tomassi and Farha debate hypergamy definition at length. Rollo argues it is biological/evolutionary; Farha argues the definition is being used inconsistently.
01:16:47
QuoteBrian asks girls to self-rate looks 1-10. Rosie says 5, Ali 7, Aspen 7, Kylie 7. Show is at record 10,000+ viewers during this segment.
02:18:12
QuoteMichael Sartain advises all single guests to volunteer at SPCA and soup kitchens as a strategy to meet empathetic, non-narcissistic partners.
03:38:20
QuoteBrian plays Patrice O'Neal "vagina train accident" clip. Avery/Kiki is first to respond: "blow jobs."
04:23:35
QuoteBrian attempts to set up Farha with Destiny (political streamer) who was in the live chat; Farha says they already live in the same city and she'd be open to a date arranged by Brian.
04:33:28
QuoteJustin Waller describes his War Room involvement: co-created with Andrew Tate, also involves Lou Barnett and "satorial shooter."
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Introductions and show announcements
Brian Atlas introduces guests and co-host Kiki. Sponsor spot for MCFC 2 MMA event. Guests introduce name, age, occupation, and relationship status. Mystery male guest (Michael Sartain) revealed. Male guests: Justin Waller, Rollo Tomassi.
00:11:00
Aspen: six years single, dating standards, religion
Aspen discusses being single for six years with only one near-relationship. She is a conservative Christian ER nurse. Panel discusses her standards (must love The Office, go to church). Debate on whether she is too picky or intimidating.
00:46:40
OnlyFans virgin reveal: Farha
Farha reveals she does OnlyFans but is a virgin. Panel probes consistency of this position. Farha explains she debates men in her DMs and her content is non-pornographic. Justin Waller and Michael Sartain question whether she is actually a virgin. Rollo Tomassi connects this to hypergamy.
01:00:00
Hypergamy debate: Rollo Tomassi vs Farha
Extended debate on the definition and origins of hypergamy. Farha argues hypergamy is cultural or definitionally contested; Rollo argues it is biological and universal across 37 cultures. Michael Sartain cites evolutionary psychology studies on attraction and facial symmetry. Debate on whether selectiveness equals low body count.
01:30:00
Self-ratings round and objectivity of beauty
Brian asks panel to self-rate looks 1-10. Girls give: Rosie 5, Ali 7, Nev 6, Aspen 7, Kylie 7. Farha deflects. SPEAKER_00 guests give mixed answers. Debate erupts on whether beauty ratings are objective or subjective. Michael Sartain argues beauty is largely objective (symmetry, signs of youth). Show peaks at 10,000+ concurrent viewers.
01:48:20
Body count, double standards, and OnlyFans economics
Discussion of acceptable body count numbers. Farha debates whether body count = selectiveness. Justin Waller states he will not date a woman with 80+ bodies. Rollo explains evolutionary basis for asymmetric standards. Farha argues she does not conflate selectiveness with body count numbers.
02:20:00
Role models, broken homes, sex and relationships advice
Panel discusses role models. Rosie shares 7-month situationship backstory. Kiki reads superchat questions. Michael Sartain advises volunteering at SPCA/soup kitchens to meet empathetic partners. Discussion on whether men's actions matter more than words. Rollo: women talk, men do.
02:50:00
Dating while in the military, masculinity, and modern men
Discussion of dating military men (small percentage of Americans serve). Justin Waller and Rollo Tomassi debate the crisis in modern masculinity. Rollo argues traditional marriage is currently untenable for men due to imbalanced risk. Debate on polygamy/sharing high-value men. Justin Waller explains War Room involvement with Andrew Tate.
03:30:00
Patrice O'Neal clip and panel reactions
Brian plays Patrice O'Neal "train accident" clip asking what women would do to keep a man if they lost their vagina. Panel reacts. Avery says "blow jobs"; Aspen declines to answer fully. Discussion of what women uniquely bring to relationships beyond sex.
03:53:20
Destiny (streamer) discussion and payo Twitch raider
Brian investigates Destiny (political streamer) who sent superchat. Panel rates Destiny. Farha defends her polyamorous arrangement with Destiny. Justin Waller and Rollo Tomassi debate open relationships. Brian tries to set up Farha with Destiny. World of Warcraft streamer payo shown on screen; girls rate him.
04:20:00
Andrew Tate's War Room and closing remarks
Brian asks Justin Waller about War Room involvement. Justin describes it as co-created with Tate along with Lou Barnett and others. Closing shoutouts. Brian promotes Justin's YouTube channel and War Room.
Transcript
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Farha/Nikki/Kyliewelcome back my name is farha I'm 24 years old and I'm a tech talker and only fans creator okay I'm Nikki I'm 18 and I work at a warehouse
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Rosie/AliI'm Rosie and I'm 19 and I work at a like a Mexican restaurant my name is Ali I'm 20 years old and I am a physical therapy aide as well as a Kinesiology major at Cal State San
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NevMarcos I'm Nev I'm 20. uh this is my business card it's bone and the lettering is silly and real what was something called that um I work at PetSmart and yeah oh and
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Brian AtlasI'm majoring in law you're what majoring in law by the way you're way too far from the microphone so they're probably like you all right Eric can you pull up the chats we need to do um something's dropping um how's the audio on her could you guys
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Brian Atlashear her she was really far from the microphone yeah you you can scoot the microphone a little closer towards you all right I'll get closer yeah do it one more time here and while you're at it since you're cosplaying as uh Patrick Bateman from American Psycho why don't you give us
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Nevthe whole monologue you guys ever hear of Huey Lewis in the news continue no dude I don't know that's it that's all you got I know that like do you like Huey Lewis and like Huey
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Brian AtlasLewis in the news their early work was a little too which album would you like New Wave for my taste hey Paul that's my spider where's your ax okay um I can't bring an ax this is California is that is that actually dude
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Brian Atlasyeah dead ass look and it is silly unreal it is folded is that actually a business card though yeah it is my vision's dog sit here look at I don't remember this part okay
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Nevcool I'll keep that um you go to UCSB right no I don't oh uh I go to CC oh would you study there uh I'm studying administration of justice which is basically a precursor
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Aspento law okay very cool what about you my name is Aspen I'm 27 years old I'm an ER nurse and okay
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Farha/Nikki/Kyliemy name is Kylie McGahey I'm 21. I do modeling but mainly I am Michael sartain's full-time girlfriend and Cat mom okay cool apparently I'm the mystery
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Michael Sartainguest I don't know if I'm sneako or destiny uh but surprise [ __ ] I'm Mia Khalifa what's up uh no I'm Michael certain uh and I'm a performance coach
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Brian Atlasand I host the Michael Sartain podcast age oh I'm 45. oh wow you look uh I thought you were younger yeah I thought you're and did you sorry Kylie did you
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Brian Atlassay your age 21 yeah 21 mm-hmm you're 21. um really okay okay uh Justin
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Rollo TomassiWaller construction real estate 37. all right oh Rolo tomasi author of the rational mail series of books uh and
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Brian Atlasjust turned 55. okay sweet all right uh we're gonna go around the table once more so what's your current relationship status are you single friends with
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Brian Atlasbenefits talking State situationship relationship Harem uh and longest what's your longest relationship concubine go ahead uh I'm so
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Mixed panelso it was four years I'm single and my longest and only relationship was three years oh my my longest relationship was four months
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Mixed paneland I'm single straight straight
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Mixed panelhow do you wake up and see the same person like every day and be like wow like [Laughter] [Music]
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Female guest (situationship)oh but I am talking to someone uh in my longest relationship well situationship a little closer to the mic my longest situationship was seven months can they hear me longest situation situationship
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Brian Atlaswas seven months a seven month situationship okay go ahead I'm in a relationship and my longest relationship was about two and a half years okay
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Aspenum I'm exclusive with someone right now and my longest relationship was two years um my longest relationship was probably longer than four years but I don't know
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Brian Atlasif it was five because it was on and off a lot current relationship status single single and I've been single for like six years been single for six years okay we'll talk about that in a sec
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Farha/Nikki/Kylieuh what I'm in a relationship and the ones before that didn't matter with a guy next to you I forgot about him okay uh and I I suppose Michael it's the same for you yeah yeah I'm in a relationship
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Brian AtlasI think my loss of relationship was like three and a half years okay yeah and uh Justin what's your current uh relationships then wouldn't you like to know and uh seven years longest is seven years is that your current wouldn't you
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Brian Atlaslike to know or not my current wouldn't you like to know okay do you have a couple girlfriends or do you keep it a mystery or what I keep it a mystery okay all right man of mystery
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Rollo Tomassiokay and uh roller what about you I despite popular opinion and uh contrary to that belief I've been married for coming up on 27 years now
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Brian Atlasyeah closed on her and closed on my end okay I think it's going to make a comeback at some point closed closed on both ends okay got it so no spinning plates no no plate spinning okay got it got it got it okay cool
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Brian Atlasum so I just want to address a couple things here just uh Aspen right you said you've been single for six years what did you tell me in your Instagram message you said that nobody has caught your eye was that it yeah
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Aspenthere's been closer to Mike please there's been one person in probably close to six years that I I thought there would can you elaborate a little bit
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Aspenum yeah I mean I feel like there hasn't been any guys approaching me there's been nobody that I felt like was really trying to be in a relationship with me I'm not on the dating apps
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Aspenum I don't want to be on the dating apps they've I have been on them before but they were just depressing and I hated it and then um I somebody reached out to me
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Aspenand I talked to him for a little bit and then he said to me I can't find anything wrong with you no that's what he said to me I can't find anything wrong with you and then it was he didn't want to hold me back type
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Aspenof thing that was the one guy in the six years that I actually like had feelings for and so what I am how many do you guys went on dates or yeah we hung out
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Aspenum what's the period of time that you guys spent together um probably like three or four months okay yeah that's a somewhat decent amount of time yeah it's longer than some people's relationships and it
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Aspenwasn't but it wasn't a relationship it was never like official but it was like we were talking consistently and I enjoyed it and it was like um I was like growing feelings for this guy
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Aspenand then actually what happened was I he went out of town and I took his mom out to lunch and I was like I'm gonna have your mom tell me everything about you that you haven't told me and then that was like
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Aspentoo much for him because he was in a relationship for like a long time and uh anyways that's like that kind of I think it was moving too fast for him
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Brian Atlasand so but okay so you you've been single basically for six years you say nobody's caught your eye so there's been no no men that have showed interest in you or just of the men that have shown interesting like like I don't love them
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AspenI don't get messages from people I've had a few guys nothing in person well I work in the ER and so there's always like heads just like trying to hit on you while they're getting
00:13:35
Aspenresuscitated oh yeah that happens that's okay yeah old guys whatever like they make comments and whatever but you know I'm there to do my job paramedics no not one not one firefighter not one there
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Aspenwas no I'm serious if you were attracted to him you would give them your number if I was attracted to him yeah yeah I would but they didn't ask they didn't they didn't follow they said you were there for your job but if the right guy came in you'd give them your number right oh yeah yeah of course yeah
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Mixed paneldefinitely so clearly I'm just waiting for that to happen so go a guy like do you want to meet him by like complete accident like I don't care how it is I every time I go on the
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Aspendating apps I'll spend like three days on it me to like you know match with people which it's hard for me to swipe right on somebody but I don't I don't think that they're serious I
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Mixed paneldon't you know at least the guys that I match with aren't serious so who like what do you see like in a guy like what do you want what do I want in a guy um uh all right guys
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Mixed panellet's talk about this I love how the girl whatever relationship is going to fix it for you thank you please do a lot of people with types and a lot of things like work for other
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Aspenpeople and it don't work for other people no for sure run it um he has to love the office it's like a priority for me um I love God what hold on go ahead the
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Aspenfirst thing I'm getting I'm kidding I'm kidding your office yeah I want him to love the office Michael Scott yeah
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Aspenso I have some people that agree with me
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Aspenwhat no wait what else you can get what else does he have to have what's a criteria for me yeah um the criteria um I need somebody that
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Aspenand um that's really okay and then okay like going to church every day like oh it's Sunday for me it's not about church it's about like a spiritual connection that
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Aspenhe has with God that's what it is for me a relationship with God and no matter what really if he's Hindu and you're Catholic yeah he needs to love the Bible okay yeah
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Aspenum that's what I want and you can't be a Buddhist no Hindu no no I see yeah so um are you waiting until marriage
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AspenI am now huh she is now she's reformed Tough sex yeah I don't want to have any kind of sexual relationship with anybody before my marriage okay
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Brian Atlasum but you have had sex before because you said you are now okay yeah do you think that's going to make it harder to find someone who's willing like willing to wait
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Aspenno what is it about now someone that someone that is willing to wait well I think that's going to help me weed people out well I mean it's I mean clearly it's working oh is that so I should go sleep
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Aspenaround no no not saying you should I'm just saying that that's gonna definitely filter out yeah and that's something that I take seriously and I think that it has filtered a lot of people out like I don't that's not a boundary that why are you doing it until now when you first
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Aspenbefore no you don't tell them on the first day that you're not gonna I would I wouldn't even naturally God comes up in conversations that I have because it's such a personal part of my life but it's never like are
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Michael Sartainyou a Christian not your religious conviction the fact that you will not be partaking in sexual intercourse no matter how well I don't know I don't start off with that but at what point do you inform the guy that that's the case
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Justin Wallerum maybe like this second or second date yeah do you really believe her uh I'm just I'm you know your honor I think I'm lying counselor I'm just trying to know I don't know I don't think you're actively lying I think that if he's set
00:17:34
Justin Wallerin front of you and you like really had strong feelings for him you would do it for sure yeah you would especially because it's going to take that kind of dude for you to want to marry him anyway like he's going to be bad boy he's not going to be like some punk that's like
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Mixed paneloh yeah let's read the Bible well then again like well it's not like yeah exactly exactly right we'll cross the bridge when it comes yeah you'll cross it hard what's that do you you want to find out the hard way or you want to find out yes
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Aspenshe does or marriages find out what like if I love that she's really good at bad if what if he's good that's what she says oh I'm not worried about that I'm not worried about that no I'm not worried about that why the [ __ ] would someone be worried about whether or not
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Nevsomeone's good in bed that doesn't really like like you should judge people based on based on the content of their character not whether or not their dick works oh that's right I'm not saying it's just something is that something
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Aspenthat you take like really seriously like they have to be good in bed and like it has to be the first time if he's not good in bed the first night then you're just gonna hold on just a sec Mike Davis donated 200 there we go Michael Sartain
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TTS/Donationsis the type of Dude to steal your watch and help you look for it the seeking Arrangements paid actor great to see Waller one of the brightest
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Brian Atlasbased Minds walking the planet send regards to take for me yo Mike Davis thank you for the big 200 donation man thank you so much um by the way if anybody's curious Eric
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Brian Atlascould you swap the angle uh this is Mike Davis here are you sure we have he's like one of our longtime supporters so we have a photo of him in the studio uh that's him in his Burger
00:19:05
Brian AtlasKing outfit he owns like 300 Burger Kings on the East Coast so thank you for uh tuning in tonight uh Michael do you have a response to oh no Kylie babe you're a paid actor did you know that we're not in a relationship none of this
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Justin Walleris real wow I guess it must be difficult for him Where's My Money where's the paycheck I'll be sure to tell Tate hello and I still have my
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Michael Sartainwatch so far so yeah yeah yeah actually I I just rotate right before this we started the show so yeah we'll say we'll say what's up to him Mike and I'll stop by Burger King for you wait a minute 300
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NevBurger King that's bad boy though that's impressive yeah yeah Loki can I have a crown can you ask him for a crown yeah I'm gonna be flying soon I want the Burger King crowd isn't there okay
00:19:54
Rollo Tomassispecifically the Burger King crown I'm gonna be going on a flight soon so are you like are you looking for guys at Bible study or are you still looking for them on Tinder because you mentioned Tinder just a little while ago um I I was on Tinder
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Aspenand I'm like I'm looking for him anywhere it can show up anywhere like when I would spend the time on tinder's where you default to or when I'm sad I'm like okay man like nothing's
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Aspenhappening so I go on there create my little profile you know get get a little attention and then I'm like this is not how it's gonna happen
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Female guest (situationship)yeah yeah like have you ever like walked up to somebody and been like hey like I think you're cute like this this and that like have you ever tried that or do you I think that I'm just naturally
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Aspenfriendly and outgoing I'm not gonna go up and say like hey I would say hey we should hang out sometime but I would never say here's my number so you're not a direct person so you're
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Nevan indirect person uh sure you have a question yeah I do I do um okay I was in the bathroom for this so maybe I'm wrong but maybe instead of Tinder you said like increase into the
00:21:05
Michael Sartainmic yeah Christianity Christian Mingle yeah no no no no Christianity why would you not do Christian Mingle because that's where the [ __ ] nerves are yeah I'm just kidding no I'm just kidding what is your rational he's not wrong but I mean cheers
00:21:17
Michael Sartainoh gosh man this is gonna like do you not see the the the corner you've painted yourself into I painted myself in a corner good this is good let's help me okay look okay but he's helping you so why would you not choose Christianity
00:21:30
AspenI'm just curious I think so my brother actually got married to his wife on Tinder and my I have friends I know other people that have like had success on
00:21:41
NevTinder a lot of girls I know like really like hinge and um no they don't really like Bumble okay listen okay sorry sorry so I was in the bathroom but instead of
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Nevgoing on Tinder why don't you just if Christian Christianity is something you value why don't you just go to church find a good man in the South I don't know go to a church to find someone that you'll like Justin
00:22:09
Female guest (situationship)no I feel like for this like she wants somebody who's also gonna like kind of matcher in like other areas as well so she doesn't want somebody like it's just like oh Christianity Christian right but it's fun but she also wants somebody to like match it with like the
00:22:22
Nevother things that she does as well like what else do you like to do well for example no listen listen right but it's been six years I don't think she can be that sticky at the same way forever you know what do you mean by that I know I'm running out no I think she should put
00:22:36
Rollo Tomassiher foot in the door or whatever and then experiment maybe those people depending on what you like she's gonna do things the right way right you need to do it right yeah let's change between the time you were
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Aspenlike 23 and like 27 now like okay so why was this now a sudden change for you well I've been single for so long and I'm like how long is long I was probably 21 or 22. when I was when
00:22:58
Rollo TomassiI broke up when the like things ended I went to nursing school and then have there been guys between then and now there's been one one that I had well that relationship was but like I mean like people reaching out one night
00:23:09
Aspenstands anything like that no no even all that time on today never done one night stands no I've never done a one-night stand I would never do that good ever
00:23:20
Aspenever have you tried Christians so why do you think okay he wanted to ask yeah I haven't done Christian Mingle because
00:23:31
Brian AtlasI Farmers Only no should I try that it's worth a shot I don't want like first off I don't like one second we're we're giving you a c two seat boosters just because to bump
00:23:44
Nevyou up a little bit you're just past Turf you can me yeah what the [ __ ] you mean I'm 6'5 clearly it still looks like she's sitting down
00:23:55
Justin Wallerthere we go okay cool okay uh Christian language sort of melting into the seat yeah so are we trying to fix this problem for you yeah let's do it okay cool you don't know what the [ __ ] you want so let's start right there all right I clearly don't know what you want you're not
00:24:07
Justin Wallergonna know until it slaps you in the face I think that you should date guys and run around telling them you're not going to sleep with them it's probably not going to help but because I do agree with her that sex is gonna matter to you you say it doesn't matter but like no I
00:24:19
Aspendidn't say it didn't matter to me yeah I'm well no you no she looked me in the eyes and I said I said she said she said that why would anybody would not matter she said yeah I think that that's really
00:24:31
NevI think that's really important why do you think that's the why it doesn't matter I don't even know what the [ __ ] I said 30 seconds ago okay okay what did I say what did I say you said that sex doesn't matter because you're gonna judge based on characters you
00:24:44
Nevshould base yeah you should judge based on character like what makes you say that you're good at sex okay but well my thing is like like yeah sure sexuality has a lot to do with well somewhat to do
00:24:56
Nevwith compatibility but you should really base someone like base your judgments on whether or not someone's good you know whether or not someone makes you laugh or they're not blah blah blah blah I don't know maybe you're not too familiar
00:25:06
Nevwith that maybe I'm not too perfect it's boring okay
00:25:14
Female guest (situationship)my thing is when she at first when she at first stated that she didn't say that I'm that all she was looking for was sex well she didn't say that she was personality she was just saying that if he like for example if he has a two
00:25:26
Nevincher and it's not pleasuring her and it's like come on now here we go all right now but but look look but but look look if he had money you guys would be all over him wouldn't you okay
00:25:37
Mixed panelthen why are you doing you know what I mean because I make my own money and I don't need a guy to be there in my life when I like what Justin what do you think of that which is why you'll be
00:25:48
Mixed panelalone wait you know what no that's not true straight straight into the mic please because I need a guy that I know will have my back just like some kind of Bonnie and Clyde thing you know he has
00:26:01
Mixed panelmy back I have his back how do you making a bunch of money help him have your back yes because he'd be running his own thing I'd be doing my own thing and I'd be doing so what does he need just like a 50 why does he need you and then why why are you competing I don't
00:26:13
Mixed panelknow why he needs me because a lot of people a lot of people feel like you know there's always like that childhood side on you that you don't feel like you've fulfilled enough you know and if you have enough money you could fill that in a lot of rich people say they have too much money totally which is the
00:26:27
Michael Sartainproblem but how does that make you attractive to a man who would then want to be with you do you understand the problem well I don't need to be attractive to a man because but it does help time out why would you not why would you not need to be attractive to a
00:26:39
Mixed panelman it does help but then again I've had so many exes that told me that I'm ugly that I've told that I've like I have been the ugly best friend where my best friend has been kicking him every single guy that I thought was cute and I was
00:26:51
Mixed panelsitting on the side and I was jealous you know why because I was ugly because I fixed that you can change your appearance and you can change how you feel your self-confidence and you wear it people would like that you wear it on
00:27:02
Mixed panelyour shoulder and your sleeve like yeah I'm that self-confident person then what it what do you say would matter to me your ex-boyfriends were calling you they always call me ugly while they were
00:27:14
Mixed paneldating you like I mean yeah I have been cheating on I have been a side [ __ ] I've been the main [ __ ] I have been the [ __ ] that you've cheated on me with to make somebody else jealous I've been through it all but you know sleeping
00:27:25
Mixed panelwith a guy at the end of the day you know he doesn't care what you look like I have been left for a pretty which is why I'm not I'm just gonna sleep with them what but you know what at the end of the day I moved on my own I did my
00:27:38
Female guest (situationship)own thing and I kept moving forward and I made my own money and I still like what I and they always come back to me going back to what you were saying or one of you you said how does money make you attractive right so
00:27:51
Female guest (situationship)if you're if you're six if you're a successful person right are you really gonna date somebody who is like I'm not saying below you are you talking about a man yes a man would date a woman who makes no money yes yes
00:28:06
Female guest (situationship)because your money is your money and our and our money is our money people my age I have met guys that they don't want to do that they they want to date okay if you find a guy that cares
00:28:19
Female guest (situationship)about how much money you make you should leave the data meeting exactly that's and that's what I have done but like all the guys that I have met that I have talked to they care about that type of stuff those are [ __ ] balls
00:28:30
Michael Sartainbecause because they're they're a trophy what's it called participation trophy generation is not interested in being successful so they think it's okay to live like that as a man to where they're
00:28:43
Michael Sartaingoing to like I'm concerned with how much money she makes I don't I've dated women that make 300 000 a year and women that make nothing it doesn't make any difference to me it matters the attraction levels that I feel in the femininity that I get in the Loyalty
00:28:54
Michael Sartainthat I get in the relationship that I get not how much money she makes on the other hand have women Judge Me based on my level of success ambition and how much money I make all the [ __ ] times that's all they do for me for me
00:29:07
Female guest (situationship)because I have dated so many guys that for example my last situation ship that I was with for seven months for seven months I spent 5K on him okay so because I have already been through that I kind
00:29:17
Mixed panelof I know it's terrible I told her her name is situation to make a down payment my reality checked her I actually I reality checked her I told her every single week
00:29:30
Mixed panelthat she kept working her nine to five job she was spending half of that on her boyfriend her boyfriend would drive all the way like somebody has some good pictures would drive all the way over to her and then she would pay for
00:29:42
Mixed paneleverything and then user
00:29:48
Female guest (situationship)oh we're not We're Not Gonna knock it out with her okay okay but my thing is my thing
00:29:56
Female guest (situationship)I think I can know that you want somebody higher so if we go on a date if we go on a date I can know that he can pay for his half or he can pay for mine and we can alternate like of course I'm gonna pay for it don't date dudes that don't take the whole bill like don't
00:30:08
Justin Wallerdate a man that will not like I refuse me hypothetically went on a date there's no [ __ ] way on Earth you would pay the bill because it's a man's job and that's okay
00:30:48
Female guest (situationship)I feel rude I feel as if like okay if I'm gonna expect this from this person I'm gonna expect it for myself and if I don't do that I feel like well then how about you do that as far as like honesty and loyalty is concerned but you don't need to do that as far as finances because we didn't ask you that's what I
00:31:01
Justin Wallerwas going to ask it's not you're not sacrificing anything it's a trade-off so what strings come attached with that paying for the bill like what do you expect out of the woman you're dating are you talking about like a first date or something in general nothing be pleasant be my piece you know eventually
00:31:13
Justin Wallerdown the road there's probably gonna be sex and then there's loyalty and then that's it
00:31:27
Mixed panelare you happy with that person
00:31:35
Mixed panelso she gives you everything right so she gives you everything right how she cleans a house she she watches her kids yeah she pays you know maybe half the rent maybe once or twice no she doesn't
00:31:47
Mixed panelno she doesn't have to rent let me just lay this out this is from my point of view so she pays half the rent she takes care of everything she drives everywhere she takes you sometimes a lot everywhere
00:31:57
Mixed panelright and you still cheat on her why you're asking us why we cheat on people we haven't provides loyalty out there like there's tons of people like nle
00:32:07
Mixed panelChopper like Nick Cannon who cheat on their baby mamas oh I think those women are fully aware I don't consider that cheating if you have a baby with Nick Cannon then why do they continue to hop onto the next female because those
00:32:18
Michael Sartainfemales don't make them happy the cannon is a terrible that's not true girls are having sex with the guys that's why okay but have you guys ever thought about it like with guys then
00:32:29
Mixed panelwhat about Christian rock was so down bad for blueface no no no these are two minutes
00:32:45
Mixed panelfall in love answer my question when do females it has to do with oxytocin release exactly yeah exactly and after that point they become crazy easy after that
00:32:56
Mixed panelone night where they cut over you they [ __ ] you and they sleep with you and after that's when they become emotionally crazy like don't sleep with them you have that option
00:33:08
Mixed panelthere's street [ __ ] and there's house [ __ ] there's two different types of females in this world obviously I think there's more than two I know what I wouldn't consider I don't know about three horses
00:33:21
Mixed panelHousewives and I see myself on the streets you know why you know why you know why because the man that you're with that you think will provide for everything you said would you like me to tell you why worry about it would you
00:33:33
Rosie/Alilike me to tell you why you think of yourself
00:33:39
Mixed panelbut you always have to have that constant fear that your man is cheating on you no I don't I trust my man yeah wow yeah you trust your man until one day some girl texts you hey is this your man texting me guess what you're gonna
00:33:52
Mixed panelblow up on him you're gonna hate him you're gonna kick him out and you're gonna start all back over here yeah you just said you're gonna kick him out uh relationship I don't need a relationship
00:34:04
Rollo Tomassievery guy that I have ever slept with I am a direct person just like how she is an indirect person you know why you don't need a relationship because I don't rely on that because you have
00:34:15
Rollo Tomassibecome the man you want to have a relationship with yeah that's not a solution you're the guy you're the masculine
00:34:27
Mixed panelno because before I sleep with you I always tell you what every guy that I have ever had slept with I always lay out the facts listen listen I don't like you I like you for this type of period
00:34:39
Mixed paneland we can have you next week I will never chase you you think that's it to a healthy relationship I don't need a healthy relationships
00:34:54
Nevwhether he needs to [ __ ] me or not I can just tell him you could [ __ ] me okay whatever okay the reason why you're attracting these terrible males is because you're presenting yourself as a low value Woman based on this stuff that you wear terrible males okay okay no no okay okay but the people you're like oh
00:35:07
NevI always have to worry whether or not he's cheating on me the reason why you're getting those people is because you're presenting yourself as a low value woman your ideals are all off the walls okay and you're and you're you're putting it as if like it's a oh girl
00:35:20
Nevpower moment why do you think you feel well that's the way you're presenting yourself okay okay and if you're presenting yourself like this you did call yourself a Streaker if you're a presenting yourself like this to us then
00:35:32
Mixed panelwhat do you think they think of you I don't care I will let a guy okay like I would let it go shut it down pay for everything I'm black what are you talking about no I said you have the card
00:35:52
Brian Atlasvery important question for you how long have you had the neck tattoo this yeah how long have you had that spider can you can you turn to the camera so the camera can yeah just do a little turn show them no that is good ink though so
00:36:05
Mixed panelhow long have you had that tattoo I think a year has it had an impact when it comes to dating I don't think she needs help because actually actually it
00:36:16
Mixed panelfixed a lot of my dating it actually it saved me and my self-evaluation I used to be [ __ ] with guys that use me for money I was in a two-year relationship I would even count it over this
00:36:28
Mixed panelrelationship it was a situationships I was dedicated like he was dedicated to somebody else and so it was a situation between me and him because he was dedicated to somebody
00:36:40
Brian Atlaselse and I was dedicated to him so a situation situationship was that you okay let's give uh you a little opportunity to talk let's talk about your seven month situationship
00:36:53
Female guest (situationship)did you want something more or were you happy with oh no I wanted something more and he didn't or um so he said he did he's in the military red flag automatically but anyway excuse me
00:37:07
Female guest (situationship)okay maybe not excuse me I'm sorry what but no it was a red flag and um but yeah so basically I wanted I wanted more I wanted to be together and I made that
00:37:18
Female guest (situationship)clear multiple times all the time um and then he basically had told me that he was going to be um he was gonna go somewhere else a different state and when he came back he wanted to make it official well we had
00:37:31
Female guest (situationship)broken up five times in the middle of the seven month period um and I would all I don't know I was like in love but I think I feel as if I was just maybe just comfortable with the person and
00:37:44
Female guest (situationship)um I pretty much was just like you know like I want to work this out this and this now I feel like I was the problem but then after our last breakup and I found out that he was already with somebody um his best friend had called me and
00:37:57
Female guest (situationship)basically told me that he had already moved in with her so I was like okay that's cool so after I heard that I it literally just like all the feelings just went away so quickly um I started just like doing me saving
00:38:09
Female guest (situationship)up just working all the time it was just like just trying to make sure is that where you're at now yeah that's pretty much what I'm doing um but recently I just like met somebody and I have been talking to him for a while but I'm still I still kind of have
00:38:22
Female guest (situationship)like that uh emotional like attachment wall kind of up because I feel like I don't want to get close to the person because I feel with me I get attached so quickly and if I do that I feel like I'm just gonna get hurt again so it's more
00:38:34
Female guest (situationship)of like the trust issues I like a house it's terrible right now so but yeah I did want I did want more but he he obviously didn't want that I think this is good I think this is going
00:38:45
Aspento be a really good like turning point for you in your life because you do deserve somebody that cares about you and doesn't treat you the way that that guy treated you but also you need to see your value as a
00:38:58
Female guest (situationship)woman and that's what I'm trying to do yeah that's honestly what I'm trying to do um I was always fixated on this like I need I feel I was fixated on always like oh I need a
00:39:10
Female guest (situationship)relationship I want somebody to be there for me I want somebody to have my bag I want you know somebody to just like be able to talk to and like lay my head with next to all like everyone you can
00:39:20
Brian Atlashave that you can know this is a spider what is it the Spider-Man like a dirty Spiderman costume okay my bad yeah okay
00:39:29
Brian Atlasjust curious I'm here let's so okay just kind of going back to when it comes to relationship status you're single I proposed to you last show so we're you we are engaged I'd just like
00:39:42
Brian Atlasto remind you um just that's kind of rude that you said you're single problems excuse me um so you were on the show two months
00:39:51
Brian Atlasago is that correct yeah any uh any you know situations springing up in that time period any infidelity you know because clearly you know
00:40:02
Kikino actually I've tried what I've tried to go on dates I've been going on dates but oh yeah I've been going on dates but it doesn't really get past the first date it
00:40:13
Kikidoesn't get past the sexual intercourse no I've been staying I have not been having sex really I'm really trying I'm really trying to date for marriage now
00:40:22
Michael Sartainhuh what kind of only fans do you do I I've done everything so wait what are you doing now this is a really important question right now is there guy girl
00:40:33
Michael Sartaincontent of you and another dude that's up that you're selling while you're looking for another deal yes you understand you understand how that might be a conflict yeah I don't necessarily
00:40:44
Michael Sartainnecessarily tell them that okay if you start seriously got it if you start seriously dating another guy and he asks you specifically he doesn't want you to take your whole of down but he wants the guy girl content of you
00:40:55
Rollo Tomassiwith another dude taking down off your your page would you do it if I felt he could be my husband yet what would he have to do what would he have to be to to be that high like you know what I
00:41:07
Kikithink I'm gonna take down my only fans um I'm waiting for like that rom-com moment where I'm like oh my god I've known you my whole life and I haven't felt that but if I felt like that do you understand how any man
00:41:18
Michael Sartainwith any boundaries whatsoever is not going to find that acceptable like do you understand that like I'm not trying to be judgmental I'm trying to be as Li as non-judgmental of you as possible there is no [ __ ] way that a dude is
00:41:31
Michael Sartaingoing to be there like oh what does she do oh Mom let her check it out she sells you know porn of her [ __ ] some other dude under oaf that's gonna be a problem you see what I'm saying yeah bro unless you find a cuck like snico you're not gonna find a man yes yo do not talk
00:41:42
Brian Atlasabout it yeah I've already started no I do not co-sign on that no disa foul all right okay unless you find a cuck I don't think someone's you got eight let's be closer to Mike please unless you find it you can talk [ __ ] about people you guys talking to them unless
00:41:55
Michael Sartainyou're going to cut no because sneako's on his way over here yeah he's just gonna be talking sit in the chair over there no he needs it in the chair next to you so you can say that [ __ ] to him but he sits in the [ __ ] chair you gotta understand you gotta sit right there
00:42:08
Nevall right but unless you find like a cut or someone who really doesn't have respect for themselves you might not find a good man you'll find a man but you're not you might not find the man you're looking for I mean you're really
00:42:18
Kikipretty honestly I got hit but she would hit it it's really hard because my mom tells me this all the time but I
00:42:28
KikiI just I love like working for myself and making a lot of money and this is the way that I oh you gotta get away from that money show the tops all right we'll show the tats yeah so this is the way that I
00:42:41
Michael Sartainfound to do that to make a lot of money and just do whatever I want but at the end of the day I do really want love so so you're aware of the conundrum that you've put yourself in because you're not being delusional about it like where
00:42:53
Rollo Tomassilike on the list of things like only fans finding love marriage where's the where's the marriage and the finding love that I mean you said you want a relationship right I I want to find love more than anything but like to quit only
00:43:06
Kikifans you know just hoping that that's part of anything also I think I do hope that who like if if it's my person like in the movies you know if it happens like I'm the most incredible
00:43:18
Kikiperson in the world to them right so I would think that they would not that they would love me no matter what that's what I would hope you know what you realize that's a fairy tale right I know I believe in fairy tales and I don't
00:43:29
Aspenknow if it's going to exist for me don't you want a guy that says get off of that yeah that would be like you don't deserve that I mean is that what you want is that
00:43:41
Aspenwhat you're looking for I don't I don't I don't want to do nothing that's the thing well you don't have to do nothing I'm like I said nothing on only fans or nothing like no like I don't want a man to just be like all right I'm Gonna Save you and then give me all this money and
00:43:53
Kikithen I just sit around doing nothing like I do want to have kids I do I do want to build a life with somebody and that's something I don't really I don't know yet how it's gonna work I don't know how having kids and doing only fans
00:44:08
Brian Atlasum well it is just you two that's it just us you know what there was somebody we'll pull up the video really quick since it's topical so you were on the show
00:44:19
Brian Atlaslast time and we asked if we'll go around the table really quick on this uh just a question guys we're gonna have you see if you would date the following guy Eric could you pull up Zach really quick
00:44:32
Brian AtlasI'm gonna pull up this doesn't apply to the men at the table unless you would be unless you okay so would you date this guy he's a very nice guy his name is Michael totally hit it um Eric scroll down
00:44:43
Brian Atlasyep his name's Zach keeps getting better the further you go down yeah are we doing smash or passes have you met my Lord and Savior he's got some good flow in his hair like video games
00:44:55
Brian Atlashe looks good when he doesn't he's got an ax he's like capable of Defending you so there's that um just really quick we'll go around the table for the girls would you date him yes or no yes hold on again yeah would
00:45:07
Brian Atlasyou go on World of Warcraft raids with him stop it yeah I've already seen the episode just
00:45:16
Nevnot your type okay I wouldn't no but we'd be best friends you'd let him buy you dinner is that what you're saying yes um I think I would but like he should
00:45:27
Nevplay better games like Fallout that's a good one uh Skyrim is pretty good too I agree on both lights yeah
00:45:36
Brian Atlaswould you date him it's a no for me what if he's like down to wait till marriage or whatever
00:45:49
Brian Atlashell no okay um so Eric go back pull up his profile again really quick okay his name's asman gold he's like all the way to the top he's probably one of the top twitch streamers he makes
00:46:02
Brian Atlasmillions of dollars a year he owns like some companies he makes he only has 110 000 followers really he's he got me Twitch doesn't translate to Instagram huge on Twitch like yeah he's huge on Twitter I should revise my statement he makes millions of dollars a
00:46:15
Nevmonth um does that change the calculus at all for any of you Chad World of Warcraft gamer like he's a Chad gamer I mean like like top tier gamer I mean I don't see what the problem with dating Gamers is like I won't date a guy unless he plays video
00:46:29
Nevgames because then we don't really share a lot in common so priorities well yeah well okay yeah my priorities are kind of fun but like I want someone to play video games with like I want someone who's actually good at Dark Souls you know like not something like Elden ring
00:46:41
Nevyeah dude Elden ring is yeah I want someone who can get past the tree Sentinel
00:46:51
Kikiso he actually saw the US on the previous stream did you DM him did you slide I'm a little shy about that I'm a little shy about that so I followed him on Twitter and I was like
00:47:03
Kikimaybe he'll see that I followed him but he didn't follow me back and I'm I'm very shy to DM a guy first because like what if I get rejected that could have been your guy and you just so should I
00:47:15
Brian Atlaspost a picture of yourself get rid of the jacket behind you if you can just just put it on the ground or something um okay moving on you're single rest in peace Rip's in the chat what's going on like because here's here's my question
00:47:29
Brian Atlasfor everyone else who said they're single what does being single actually mean because someone can say they're single and be sleeping with like three dudes you know so like what
00:47:40
Farha/Nikki/Kyliewhen's the last time you hooked up when's the last time you've been on a date like got after it you're single right but yeah I'm actually a virgin um do you have the Myron soundboard where
00:47:52
Rollo Tomassiyou say that's cap or I have a different one oh okay yes yeah uh so and you're doing only fans yep a virgin so you're not doing like
00:48:02
Farha/Nikki/Kylieporn on only fans I'm not having sex as a virgin correct yeah what is happening right now
00:48:12
AspenI think that's amazing because you probably have a lot of guys that would be trying to get after you especially because you're honest is that because it used to have a boundary um if I was religious I don't think I'd
00:48:24
Rollo Tomassibe participating in only fans so no it's not for religious reasons you wouldn't be the first one to say that that's what I'm just gonna say it's like a lot of girls will be like I oh I think I should forget where we saw this recently but it's like go go around the table and you
00:48:35
Rollo Tomassigot all these girls to say you know I believe in God and yet they're on only fans or they're doing sure I try to remain relatively consistent um I'm just incredibly picky when it comes to so it's not a religious thing
00:48:47
Michael Sartainyou're just like I'm just no it's just a visceral sense of pickiness how old are you 24. can you describe an incident where it got close and it didn't happen and why did it not happen like for you you're 24 and you've never had sex so
00:49:00
Michael Sartainlike what what happened where it got close and you decided to not do it because you're saying you're not a virgin for moral reasons you're a virgin because you're picky so I'm just curious did anybody even get close or does this this whole idea of sex just not seem
00:49:11
Justin Wallerappealing to you and before I have you answer that Justin just really quick you think she's telling the truth I think she's I think it's the truth not of that man I'm pulling for I hope
00:49:24
Farha/Nikki/Kylieshe's telling the truth okay so do you want to answer Michael's uh sure um it could still be for moral reasons just not for like conventional religious reasons like I personally just don't believe in biting the bullet and just participating in hookup culture and even
00:49:37
Farha/Nikki/Kyliethough it might seem inconsistent that I'm on only fans well Holding Out for me it's very consistent because I just hold to my own moral compass in the sense of doing what I want to do and if I meet someone I'm in love with then but do you
00:49:51
Farha/Nikki/Kylieever make out with a guy that was hot and heavy and then something stopped you does that does or does no guy even get that far um I would say guys have definitely pursued I think just because I haven't done it it's very easy for things in
00:50:03
Michael Sartainrest to stay and rest because there's no muscle memory for it yes it is okay three laws of motion Isaac Newton for her vagina respect
00:50:16
Farha/Nikki/Kyliewritten in 1689. yeah so I'd imagine it'd probably be harder for you because you have that muscle memory or that like remembrance of what it was like that's what I'm asking have you even gotten that far have you made out with the dude and considered having sex with him and
00:50:29
Michael Sartainthen you stopped yourself during the night or have you not even gotten that far we haven't even got to first base with the dude also is this a born-again thing or are you proper proper version I'm a proper version proper version yes
00:50:42
Farha/Nikki/Kylieum Brian's intrigued do you understand what I'm asking like you haven't even gotten to first base like the dude hasn't even like made out with you or you thought about having sex with him I've had the desire but the desire uh isn't congruent with my like mental
00:50:54
Farha/Nikki/Kyliedesire if that makes sense like I've had like the bodily desire for it but I have a completely independent thought process yeah I totally get that because I'm a virgin as well so stop the cap dude okay
00:51:05
Nevokay bro okay there is this one time okay there was this one time with my uncle but I did not oh [ __ ] I can't say you should like I was kidding it was a joke it was a joke it was a joke it was a joke it was a joke it was a really
00:51:16
Brian Atlas[ __ ] up joke and I'm sorry there was no time with my uncle he's in prison not because of me but it was a joke let's move on what oh
00:51:25
Brian Atlasokay wait so um question are you waiting until marriage or it just the right guy hasn't come along I'm just kind of a hopeless romantic like I just want to be in love and I'm
00:51:36
Michael Sartainnot sure if I have yet and for me if I even kiss a guy at a club who I'm not into like I'll go home feeling disgusted okay I'm sorry that's my question you haven't answered have you kissed a guy at a club have you kissed a guy on a date like do you notice I'm not trying to cry too much but like you're you're
00:51:50
Michael Sartaintelling virgin will just call that go getting all the way to home have you even gotten to first base with the dude because that would actually be a completely different story that you're telling do you understand what I'm saying first base I was in kissed a guy yeah yes I've kissed guys not
00:52:02
Farha/Nikki/Kylieum frequently in that setting like that one time setting because the few times I have from that sample size like I just personally don't feel good afterwards like kissing someone and kissing someone even on a first date like I have to go on at least three dates to kiss someone to be honest to feel okay about it and then has anything ever gotten further
00:52:15
Michael Sartainthan just kissing someone it'd be on couth to give you a detailed sexual but my point is like it's for some people there's like a mental fixation where like they're just asexual that's what you're starting to sound
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Farha/Nikki/Kylielike you're just not interested in sex at all no that's not true at all like I said I have a very strong bodily desire and in the moment like I could totally see myself enjoying it it's more so I know afterwards I won't feel good okay because if I don't feel good after kissing someone at Falcon in the moment
00:52:40
Brian Atlasthen I think sex would be you know what I mean a way bigger bullet can we just have you pull your hair behind your put the hair behind your back your hair are you trying to see my
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Brian Atlascleavage yeah oh okay not not me like the chat's been asking for no no it's good for business it's just like you know I'm just like I'm looking out for you like I pulled up your only fans here just like to check like if there's anything that could like discredit your
00:53:02
Brian Atlasclaim that you're virgin oh you bought all my content for research well I didn't buy it I'm just like on your blank page because yeah I don't pay for only fans but um you only have eight posts like hello but um I mean a lot of it's in the messaging you know oh hey do
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Michael Sartainyou write your own messages or do you have someone write your messages for you um I script the messages most people go on my only fans to like debate me so I respond to a lot of people this is incredible yeah she's found a business model by like by by being the Virgin
00:53:27
Farha/Nikki/Kylieonly fans of content originally fans girl this is I don't really brand his virgin because I feel like it conflicts with the only fans image the Virgin thing is a relative I planned on not coming out use that actually I think I
00:53:38
Michael Sartainwas saying the same thing like you could piss dudes off and get them like to pay to debate you and call you names I think that's a great way to make money
00:53:49
Rollo Tomassido you think that being on only fans is like limiting you from finding the guy for whom you will eventually want to actually have sex with no I mean it's all subjective you could say that you
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Farha/Nikki/Kylieknow me not wearing a hijab you know I'm cutting off a section of men me being Brown there's men who probably won't like me for my race I'll just find a man who has congruent values with me I'm not going to tailor My Lifestyle to like a subsection of red pelt men so if you
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Rollo Tomassihave and only fans and you're a virgin and you just explained to us that you're waiting for like some very high quality guide I didn't say high quality okay so what
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Rollo Tomassiwhat would be your ideal guy then high level of chemistry when you say high value you're probably relating to income height things like high value but I mean like it's high enough to sort of be your ideal guy that would be the guy that you would want to have sex I don't know if
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Farha/Nikki/Kyliewe have the same metrics of Ideal what do you mean by ideal I'm just asking you what your ideal that you would have want to have in a guy so that's why for me romantic chemistry is incredibly volatile it's not based on any barometers of like oh he's in school he
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Rollo Tomassihas this career or anything so it could just be random dude off the street 100 I am not hypergamous at all I think you're probably way more hypergamous than you think yeah in fact you are so hypergamous you won't have
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Farha/Nikki/Kyliesex with a guy until the guy is the guy that you're looking for of course and then if I had sex with guys and then they were you know what I mean made less than me and then you'd say oh because we broke up it proves that none of those interactions counted right so I can't
00:55:14
Rollo Tomassireally help the microphone a little tilt it other way there you go I think the very I think the fact that you are a virgin right now just proves a point that you're hype like to a very high degree
00:55:27
Michael Sartainthe fact that I'm abstinent means that I'm waiting for someone richer than me no no so you're confused with hypergamous hypergamous with this idea that women are bad hypergamy doesn't mean women are bad did I say bad wouldn't I even imply that yeah you are
00:55:39
Michael Sartainthe one who's saying that he you're you're putting words in his mouth I'm just asking what would be your ideal enough to give where did this notion of women being bad come in no nobody says no one is saying that yeah you're at but you're saying to him you're putting
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Michael Sartainwords in his mouth about what he's going to say next after you have sex and that he's going to judge you and that's not what we're saying hypergamy is just an algorithm it's an evolutionary adaptation that women have it's not a negative or positive thing like you said it's not negative I'm not sure if it's
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Farha/Nikki/Kyliean evolutionary adaptation I think the reason women have uh historically been hypergamous is because they were barred from higher education so obviously the average man was going to earn more than them but by 2050 we're going to see a total reverse the same epic was because of a Bard from
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Farha/Nikki/Kylieeducation in general that you can't really deduce anything from hypergamy historically because men on average have just made more than women but now women are out earning men
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Rollo Tomassihypergly has nothing to do with money they just I'm just telling you studies I've shown about that no you're not what you're doing
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Rollo Tomassiwhat you're doing here is is you are conflating hypergamy with the values and the monetary set and status of today
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Rollo Tomassiwhereas when we talk about when I've talked about her program in the past it's not it's not a a social construct it's not something that's been created it's something that is innate I'm using the current definition of hyperchomy
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Rollo Tomassiwhich is that women date someone with a superior sociological or monetary background yeah okay no because if when we talk about
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Rollo Tomassihypergamy it's not just about money it's not just about uh status it's also about like is this guy arousing enough for me to want to get with is he a hot guy is he the dude that I want to get with
00:57:22
Rollo Tomassibecause he's he he does it for me that's what I was asking you I'm not asking you like how much money does he have to make I'm just saying what's your ideal that that guy would get in there who would be
00:57:33
Rollo Tomassithe guy that would make you the only fans virgin want to have sex with this guy wait I'm confused can you clarify your definition of hypergamy you're saying now that the hypergamy is is very simple it's Alpha [ __ ] and beta bucks
00:57:45
Rollo Tomassiokay so it's it's is this guy arousing is he uh is he sexual uh is he uh is he a good genetic um match for me is he somebody who turns me on does he have a strong jawline is
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Rollo Tomassihe's six foot tall is he you know got a v tape or does he have a a six-pack abs as he turned me on there's the arousal side of that and then there's the beta Buck side which is the provisioning protection and parental investment side
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Rollo Tomassiof it so what you're focusing on right now is just that one single side what I'm saying is what combination of all that would be the guy for whom you would want to have sex with right and I don't think I can give you like on paper a
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Farha/Nikki/Kylielist of traits like I personally don't value height I don't value physique for me like I said romantic chemistry is incredibly volatile so the last guy you were with was what shorter than you taller than you I'm not going to get into details of it but I've been
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Farha/Nikki/Kylieattracted to guys who are my height or shorter I genuinely don't care for me I'm hypergamous maybe in the sense that I want someone with you again that's not bad it's not a bad it's not bad I haven't implied it's bad I'm just rejecting the premise that I subscribe
00:58:48
Michael Sartainto hypergamy so let's just say you don't subscribe to it but your the supposition that you made previously that was that it was somehow cultural and it wasn't genetic so we put that to bed over 40 years ago
00:59:00
Michael Sartainokay the study of evolutionary psychology Dr David buss's first study in 1989 where he looked at 37 different cultures in all 37 cultures women wanted men taller than them in all 37 cultures
00:59:11
Michael Sartainmen were more interested in casual sex than women in all 37 cultures women were more interested in men who were better at provisioning this is not a fun and these cultures had no attachment to radios television or film they had no
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Michael Sartainattachment to others so Papaya New Guinea or Papua New Guinea sorry and uh and and the Andes absolutely no contact with each other in all of these ones men on average had 90 higher upper body