She Keeps A LIST Of The Men She Sleeps With (100+)?! | Dating Talk #114

Date: 2023-11-01

Duration: 5h 46m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

MMcKenna Seagar (DT114)>

HHaley Jackson (DT114)>

JJamie (DT114)>

KKiara (DT114)>

MMadison (DT115)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Jamie(guest)

SPEAKER_03Kiara(guest)

SPEAKER_05McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Mick(guest)

SPEAKER_14Audi/Mick(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMcKenna reveals her Notes app is titled "list of bodies" and reads out ~51 names including GMO, Sammy, Xavier, Jeremiah, multiple Ricardos (from Italy), and 4 John Does.

“list of bodies that's her notes that's in my notes yes that's awesome”

QuoteMcKenna reads the full list: GMO, Sammy, Xavier, Jeremiah, Namir, Jet, Peso, Roman, Jack, Bradley, Lucas, Sierra, Colby, Julia, Ricardo, Aaron, Lorenzo, Dirk, Olivier, Mikey, Sebie, Ben, Sephir, Ben, Eddie, Cindy, Tim, Jason, Omar, Sam, Enrique, Nick, Daniel, Brandon, Eric, Tony, Beach Life, Brock, Ian, Louie, Santa, Tyler, Andy, Johnny, Thomas, Emily, Steve, Brandon, Franco, Monty, firefighter — ~51 names.

“gyo Sammy Xavier Jeremiah namir jet peso Roman Jack Bradley Lucas Sierra Colby”

Key MomentMick returns to the podcast (previously appeared on DT#65 with fiancée Key Rose) and announces she left him for another man, who she is now with in Melbourne, Australia, after 6 years together and an engagement.

“last time I was on here I was with uh key Rose who um is an only fans uh girl and uh yeah she basically um after 6 years of living together and and being together every day she left me for another guy”

OtherBrian makes McKenna swear on air to date only one man monogamously for 3 months and return for a reunion episode.

“do you solemnly swear to not fuck 20 dudes in the next 3 months”

ControversyMcKenna describes a former friend from San Diego who had gonorrhea and chlamydia simultaneously, an estimated body count of 75+ by end of high school and possibly in the hundreds total.

“she had gonner and chledy in the same week that's so bad she was she literally would like get in my car she be like can we go to CVS”

QuoteBrian leads panel in declaring "free at last" for Mick following his breakup from Key Rose.

“free at last free at last free at last”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Guests introduce themselves: McKenna (21, OF), Haley (26, OF), Sage (25, finance), Jamie (31, dog grooming), Kiara (23, OF), Audi (22, artist), Mick (27, music), Madison (18, SBCC student/bar host). Brian describes Kiki as co-host.

Relationship Status Round

Round-table on relationship status, situationships, and dating history. McKenna reveals on-again-off-again situationship with Jack. Jamie discloses 6yr baby-daddy relationship + 3yr situationship. Kiara discusses two situationships with partnered men.

McKenna's Body Count List

McKenna reads aloud from her Notes app "list of bodies" — ~51 names including Italy names (Ricardo, Lorenzo, etc.), American names, one woman (Sierra), and 4 John Does. Discussion of whether keeping a list is unusual. Total estimated ~55.

How Long to Wait Before Sex

Panel discusses how long to wait before having sex with someone new. McKenna: same day. Haley: 1.5 months (waited for current BF). Sage: depends on connection. Jamie: ~3 months for strangers. Kiara: ~10 dates / 1-2 months. Audi: depends on what you want. Madison: depends on communication and intentions.

Dating Apps and Modern Dating

Discussion of dating apps, how to meet people, and modern dating challenges. Kiara uses apps only for Instagram promo. McKenna does not use apps, prefers recycling known people. Jamie approaches men first IRL.

Vegan / Celibacy Tangent

Discussion of veganism, celibacy, and a tangent about whether vegans can consume male seed. Haley and SPEAKER_02 (Jamie) have both been vegan. McKenna was celibate 2 years and vegan/pescatarian.

Mick's Story: Key Rose Breakup

Mick returns to Whatever Podcast (was on DT#65 with fiancée Key Rose). Recounts: Key Rose started as a stripper, switched to OnlyFans during COVID. After 6 years together and engagement, she left him for another man now in Melbourne. Mick reflects on enabling behaviors and loss of self-respect. Brian shows DT#65 clip. Mick is buying NC mountain house and investment property.

Sugar Daddies and OnlyFans Economics

Panel discusses sugar daddies: McKenna had up to 3 simultaneous ($9k/mo allowances + trip to Paris). Haley had Hooters regulars. Jamie had none. Kiara had FaceTime-based arrangements ($40/10min). McKenna's OF subscriber counts (40k+), income (five figures/month), and chatter operations. Discussion of pay pigs vs. patrons.

Body Count Discussion

Discussion of whether body count matters. McKenna describes a former friend in San Diego with body count "in the hundreds" (possibly 75+ by end of high school). Kiara saw someone with ~20 men in a month. Panel mostly agrees body count matters to some extent, especially if high.

Marriage Discussion

Panel debates value of marriage vs. long-term relationship. Brian argues marriage offers nothing he can't get from a committed relationship. Madison wants to marry in a church. Mick thinks marriage is for when you want to have kids. Kiara wants to get married but not through the state.

Ratings Round

Self-ratings on looks (1-10 scale). McKenna: 8. Haley: 5.5 (shoe size). Jamie: 5 (no makeup/hair) / 7 (with). Seberg chat gave: red (McKenna) appearance 9 / values 2; 5/5; 7/9; 8/10; 5; 3; 5; 7.

After Show with Madison

Brian wraps main show; Madison hosts 5-10 minute after show. Discussion of OnlyFans chatter operations, modern dating frustrations, and miscellaneous topics.

Transcript

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Jamiefollowers I don't care about Instagram it depends who that is I mean obviously I'm only going to choose a husband if it's the right person but if it's um a man who like leads and takes care of me

Jamiein the way that I need then why why would I need an Instagram if that was really an issue but if I was dating someone who didn't necessarily take that role and wanted me to do that hell no do

Jamiewhat um anything um anything that I currently have going if they wanted me to delete my Instagram change something about my looks or my job or the way I dress absolutely not unless it's the

Audi/Mickright person okay what about you husband I it's so sad that this is a question to be asked um but a husband will always be more fulfilling than a social media

Brian Atlasapp Mick oh I guess that's for the ladies Madison I already have M all right um here

Brian AtlasI'll it's probably here let me see if I can find it on my end with rhino rhino

Brian Atlas1 maybe uh was it uh yeah it

Brian Atlaswas youra I'll try to Mick what's your uh our relationship status let's just finish up on that I'm uh currently

Brian Atlassingle right now here hold on sorry you did we get your relationship s we did no no we didn't oh no we didn't I don't go ahe go ahead go ahead go ahead

Audi/Mickum I am single I have been taking some time for some um focus on self um but I have my eye on some sounded Pro okay here Nick I'll send it

Mickagain so you're single Mick it's going to be in the inbox here what happened well that's what I'm here to discuss that's what I'm here to discuss about is

Mickis being single now yeah all right Mick give us give us the background here okay um um so last time I was on the podcast that many have seen

Mickuh I was with uh can you scoot into the table a little bit it's kind of hard between these or do you want to just hold the mic you can hold the mic I can just get get close to it get close to it

Mickokay so last time I was on here I was with uh key Rose who um is an only fans

Mickuh girl and uh yeah she basically um after 6 years of living together and and being together every

Mickday she left me for another guy and she's currently in Melbourne Australia with this other guy um and it kind of

Mickcame abruptly um uh out of nowhere for me a few months ago and uh I was very heartbroken about it but uh now I'm here

Mickready to uh discuss it and uh show that I am okay and I will survive you guys were married right were you guys married

Mickwe were engaged and uh for a few years we were engaged and I definitely was committed to her and definitely loved her and wanted to be in a monogamous

Mickrelationship with her and was monogamous uh during that period um even though she was doing things with other guys for money um I always figured that at least

Mickeven if it was for money uh at least she still loved me and it was just sex it wasn't love and it wasn't making love and she would come back to me and that

Mickwould be love um and uh you know now I'm I'm I'm I'm definitely you know shocked by it you don't expect your spouse to uh

Mickleave you for another uh man but you know uh stranger things have happened in this world and so I'm not alone uh I'm sure there's many guys in my boat but

MickI'm all right because I still have my uh dog and uh we go hiking and do things together so at least I'm not alone and uh I do um I am uh you know I

Mickpurchased my first property for investment so I do have uh cash flow that's going to be coming in soon so I don't need her money anyway um and uh

MickI'm purchasing um a house in in North Carolina it'll feel pretty empty uh you know up in the mountains there by my without her you know cuz I was going to buy it with the intention of her being

Mickwith me but uh now it's just going to be my little buddy and I and uh and I'm going to build a recording studio in it and go hiking and hopefully meet someone new so that's you know uh that's kind of

Brian Atlaswhat my deal is Nick are you able to can you pull up no no no can you pull up dating talk 65 uh that's the episode that Mick was on with key um we don't really need to watch anything but we'll just show

Brian Atlasbecause Mick was previously on with his then fiance girlfriend friend uh just for context for people they appeared together key uh at the time and I

Mickbelieve still currently she is she was a stripper correct well she started as a stripper for a few years and then when lockdowns happened she wasn't able to

Mickmake any money so she went to uh being a porn star and then from being a porn star to doing only fans um and when she was on here she hadn't done porn in like

Micka year anyway so it was like just only fans that we were basically living off of and then my income too but was she she was doing scenes on only fans with

Mickother men is that correct if I recall no not necessarily unless it was like a sugar daddy that was giving her um you know uh money and then they would film

Mickcontent or something around it if there was and then she um but no it was mostly just uh pictures of her and stuff you

Brian Atlasknow just one sec um so she while you were with her she was sleeping with other men is that correct

Brian Atlasyes okay and do you feel like if I recall the conversations that we were having about that you said you were okay with it but it seemed to me it occurred

Brian Atlasto me that you felt to some degree pressured by her to accept the situation I think at first I was like really disturbed by it and

Mickdidn't want it then I started to get more used to it and become numb to the fact that that was what was going on um but then um as time went on it was like

Micklike we're going to have a home together I want to have kids I want to have um you know is this what you're saying or is this what she say this is what I was saying to her you know like I want a committed relationship I want to love you and cherish you as my wife I don't

Mickwant you sleeping around anymore like that that started to sink in more as I'm was getting older like we met I was like 20 21 but now I'm 27 almost 28 and a lot

Mickcan happen in those few years so it's like I've matured now to where like you know before I was young and naive and now I'm like a man who wants to have a full-time job you know a committed wife

Mickand and kids and raise them and have a home and pay a mortgage and do all those adult stuff that I didn't want to do previously you know when we first met um so it it's just it's a very different

Mickmindset so I think we we kind of went further and further apart because I wanted to be uh essentially a normal uh a middle-aged adult in America grid One

TTS ReaderMotorsports donated $100 mchu dodged the bullet there don't be a s be a pimp and move onto a woman

TTS Readerthat is not a 304 come dumpster maybe Get TF Out of CA take some testosterone hit the gym your future children will

Mickthank I hit the gym every day actually right down the road here but uh yeah I agree with you I did dodge a bullet I definitely it could have ended worse um

Mickbut you know uh the the thing is is that we she wants to continue to you know sleep around meet other guys um she wants to party and drink and smoke and I

Mickdon't drink at all I don't party at all I don't smoke at all I don't do any of that stuff I love socializing I love meeting new people uh but I'm not into partying and all that stuff and that's what she really wants to do and I think

Mickshe's almost become like an alcoholic because she can't handle I I I've done a lot of research into psychology and I believe she's a malignant narcissist and

Mickher coping mechanism for her anxiety and for her narcissism is to sleep with men um smoke uh weed you know and and drink uh alcohol to cope with that because

Mickit's it's like a it's like almost like a mental disorder that she has to cope with uh to um deal with all the um Stress and Anxiety that comes with being a narcissist um and if you don't know

Mickwhat a malignant narcissist is just Google it but um but that's how how recently did you guys officially split

Mickor break up um so she flew out about a week ago to Melborn uh Australia so that was like officially the like it's over kind of deal for me um but we were

Mickkeeping in touch um for the past few months and she was lying to me about it she was kind of uh manipulating me and and like telling me that she still loved me and she still wanted to be with me

Mickbecause I think she couldn't deal with the uh with me leaving her and being apart from her um so it it that was a very big stress for her but I think uh

Mickbut basically like we I went out and saw uh you know we were spending time together and everything and she would like completely ignore me and start talking to this this other guy and I'm

Micklike thinking something's up and then she started acting like um I'm just not even there like like spending 99% of the time with this other person like she's like no I'm here but you know when

Micksomeone's there in the room with you but not present and not looking you in the eyes and talking to you that's essentially what was happening for like a month and uh she was falling asleep in

Mickanother bed uh away from me and video chatting with this other guy and I'm thinking this is just wrong do you love me anymore like I'm she's like you don't have to get upset about it and she's

Mickkind of gaslighting me too being like well you can sort of be with um you can still be with me and I can be with him and we can be in an open relationship and I'm like I don't want an open

Mickrelationship I want you and you're trying to be with this other guy and I don't understand what you why you think this is okay so and and how long has

Brian Atlasthis been going on uh for the past few months but you said just a week ago she finally left when's the last time you saw her uh about a month ago now oh a month ago so you guys had kind of been

Micksplit but she went she flew to Australia and she well I had a lot of her things I had to give her some of her stuff and everything she basically um was living

Mickin uh you know away from me so it was like I you know was giving her back some of her things and she um and I were still like I was taking her out to eat

Mickand talking and asking how she was doing and stuff you know but uh she just started treating me so shitty for no reason like like I'm just like it's like I'm not even being mean it wasn't like I was abusive or a drug addict or

Micksomething I was just literally like can we talk and have just normal discussion but she couldn't even talk her attention span right now is like a goldfish last time you guys saw her she's a completely different person let's let's actually

Brian Atlasjust really quick pull up the episode for context um here uh get rid of the Super Chat though like move it to a different time

Brian Atlastime stamp so we can see so we can see not me like so Mick yep okay so there's you Mick that when was that that was like

Brian Atlassix months ago or something there's key the red hair with the red red hair uh okay and you guys came on the podcast and it was you kind of talked about your guys's relationship and kind

Brian Atlasof what you've already said you know she does she's got sugar daddies she used to be a dancer but she still kind of danced a little bit was my understanding not as much at the strip close but she did it

Mickif we needed money or something yeah okay and so she's now moved to Australia to date some dude in Australia yeah this this guy looks like a crackhead too so how did she me meet him on online on

Mickthrough like live streaming and stuff it was just meet me ohow so it wasn't uh you know it was just but she did live streaming when I met her that was how we

Mickmet was on live stream but she just was doing live streaming again for like fun and then she totally I think in her mind uh you know she was using me to get out

Mickof Vegas cuz she didn't want to be there and almost like I'm this person and I'm comfortable because we've been together for so many years now and it was like this Comfort but she didn't really care or love me and I cared and loved about

TTS Readerher I cared and loved her and so what I think happened is basically hold on just mod hikima donated $100 Brian please keep calling for solidarity of men against paying for low

TTS Readerquality content like of mix sounds like you're living it up lucky no marriage no alimony keep your assets I got off easy

Mickto of a similar situation # blessed yeah I I definitely I mean you guys def in the chat tried to warn me and and I I definitely had some hesitation we we

Micktried yes so um but you know yeah I definitely uh I got lucky because I never actually got you know married or and I got to keep all my assets and everything and you know didn't like have

Mickto pay child support or any of that stuff you know so I am lucky in that situation have you have you had a rebound yet are you ready do you think you're ready for a

Mickrebound I I I went on one date uh a bit ago like a few weeks ago um with a girl but uh she kind of goost of me S our

Mickdate so I don't know but that that's it so no uh but I would be happy to uh if any girls out there want to message me I would be happy to respond would you date

Mickanother only fans girl you're like no I I would consider it if she's really great but be traumatized but I think I think it would probably be best if it if

Micklike I just hooked up with an only fans girl and not tried to get in a committed you know know loving relationship with an only fans girl however um if if she's really nice and she's still committed to

Mickme I would be okay if she had an only fans however I probably should be looking for something else you know with your past experience would you recommend to other

Mickmen that they don't date girls at do only fans I would suggest um you uh you date someone who makes you happy and and

Mickand who's going to love you for who you are and uh probably don't date a narcissist unless you are a narcissist yourself do you think that oh sorry keep because of the the self-centered nature

Mickof a narcissist is just they're not going to truly love you and uh only narcissists can love other narcissists I feel like what was her narcissistic red flags there's there's a lot every every

Micksingle Behavior Ro trait if you just read down what a malignant narcissist is key fits the description for every single one and I I still love and care about her like I'm I'm not hateful in my

Mickheart for her at all but she is uh she does have uh issues with it the the a lot of it stems from insecurity about herself so there's insecurity uh the

Micknarcissism is needing constant attention uh not feeling that you're selfworth so constantly trying to act out to uh feel that you uh deserve that selfworth um

Mickyou know uh doing uh things like partying and stuff so get more attention uh trying to sleep around with a lot of other guys that that's traits that a lot of uh female narcissists will have

Mickactually it's almost like her behavior was almost like masculine Behavior like it's usually women that want to be more committed and you know and have a family and all that you know you had something

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisongo ahead yes so um a couple things I don't think we should throw the term narcissist around because that gets thrown out a lot towards men and sometimes women in relationships and

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisontypically they're not narcissistic they're just shitty people she sounds like she was just a shitty person but also like well you're not privy to the details the full details I would say her

Mickpsychology like if I was a like if I were to talk to a psychologist they would say she ex exhibits all the traits of a malignant narcissist but from your

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonlike Viewpoint she sounds terrible so I'm not trying to justify her at all um what does it matter if she's a narcissist or not but what what what's the point you're trying to make it's

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonjust weird everybody she had many hold stop hold on go ahead so like mental illness everybody throws around mental illness with everyone constantly this

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonperson's bipolar this person's this people are just sh is this like just a moment for you to Virtue signal about I'm not trying to Virtue signal it's just weird when people constantly throughout mentalness is but do you think nobody's capable of being a

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonnarcissist what if she actually is definely narcissist she could definitely be narcissist so what what is your quarrel with him calling her a narcissist scratch that then I me defend

Mickyour position but I'm equating it to her it's a narcissism is a coping mechanism for people that have had rough childhoods like 90 something per of the time that's what it is so she had a

Mickrough childhood um you know her mom died young and stuff she had all these things and issues and insecurities in her mind when she's developing as a child that's where it created the narcissistic

Mickpersonality so everybody has different personalities narcissism creates a certain personality path that someone lives by hold on grid One Motorsports

TTS Readerdonated $100 Mick dude just no don't do it Red's over there sizing up your wallet just know you just got your balls back learn from the experience and move on say no

TTS Readerto 34s find a nice Church live a purposeful life I don't have have enough money but uh thank you you know can I ask what was your second thing what was your yeah go ahead uh I was just wondering how did

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthe beginning of the relationship start out and like did you notice like certain changes before it ended or was it kind of were you kind of Blindsided um when I

Mickmet her she was this uh sweet chai girl that worked at uh Subway that used to bring um uh the the subs out for the homeless and stuff when I met her um she

Mickwas a completely different sweet girl and she was just very insecure and shy but um when I let her uh you know and

Mickthat probably is a regret for me now but when I let her go to do from working at a grocery store to stripping um that's when she very much changed she it helped

Mickher with some confidence but it made her uh bring out even more of those narcissistic tendencies that she had before how long had you guys been dating

Mickbefore she became a stripper um we lived in Tahoe for a while so I believe it was

Brian Atlasum I want to say I want to say seven months I mean look uh truthfully Mick um she obviously made if she cheated on

Brian Atlasyou if she wasn't treating you well that's on her however the moment your girlfriend came to you and said I want to become a stripper that's an insta [ __ ] breakup

Brian Atlasfor me and for any self-respecting dude you should have dumped her that moment you should have dumped her immediately yeah in hindsight I should have said no don't do it I'm going to but that should

Brian Atlashave at the very least been a pretty big red flag for you um should have yes there there was a lot of red flag it should have either been an insta breakup or a it doesn't necessarily have to be

Brian Atlasan insta breakup but that's a that's a position where you're going to say babe I love you if we're going to stick together you're not doing that was you afraid if you said no she would

Mickbreak up with you um I was um or were you actually like were you actually like down for that were you actually okay with that I I wasn't at first I told her no at first and let's wait and see if we can make

Micksome more money and uh and she kept pushing it and then she kept pushing it like we're we're going to go broke we need money you know and so let me let me go make money you know so Mick this is this welcome to the red pill this is

Brian Atlasyour red pill moment this is the defining moment that will make or break you um and don't take this the wrong way I'm just trying to give you some feedback here I think you were kees to some degree at least when she started

Brian Atlasgetting involved in some of the sex work you were her placeholder boyfriend uh so LW these girls who do especially who do sex work they need a guy to fill that emotional Abyss that is

Brian Atlascaused by doing sex work so you're going to be their comfort you're safe you're comfortable um most men most men are not going to

Brian Atlasbe like are not going to be cool with uh their girlfriend being on the internet naked nude [ __ ] other dudes um so

Mickwell and she needed me to take care of her too I mean she couldn't drive she never went to the grocery store she never paid any bills she didn't know how

Mickto uh you know uh even pay the cell phone bill she couldn't talk to people because of her anxiety and insec security so I had to handle all the adult stuff and drive her to where she

Mickneeded to go and so I was that comfort and that thing that she could rely on to do everything for her and uh Stupid me I did everything for her um and then let her you know keep doing it but I took

Mickthe money and managed the finances um so I felt like I did get something out of it but it was but at at what cost you know I did lose you know a little self-respect in myself and then

Mickuh you know and then a little bit of I I lost you know the woman I love so it's like did she actually have that bad of anxiety or was she lazy a little bit of both yeah and a lot of narcissists are

Brian Atlasvery lazy yes cuz they don't want to do much unless they're a psychopath so yeah I mean Mick um I mean

Brian AtlasI'm as as your your father um I I am hereby Banning you from dating any other sex

Brian Atlasworkers no strippers no only fans girls no girls who send out feed pics nothing dude no more like you're done n Mick you cannot date these girls anymore I'm

Brian Atlassorry dude go find yourself a girl who studies stem or something I I I like uh smart girls there you go beautiful but you're a nice smart girl who doesn't do

TTS Readeronly fans well if she takes feet pics it's not that big no feet PS are not that bad

Brian Atlasback trck Mick I'm being fous donated $100 based Mick face nothing zilch zero nothing uh well sorry

Brian Atlasto hear about that situation you you know what could be interesting if you're down and ke's down would be to hear the other side of the story get you both on the show we'll do a dedicated episode uh

Mickand we'll just have you guys on the show in the just you two so if she's down if she comes back back on I mean I don't know if she's going to because she doesn't know what she's energy donated

TTS Reader$99 even Stevie Wonder saw coming never commit to 304s and never Sim have some

Brian Atlasballs to dip on these hoes I'm cringing grow a [ __ ] bear # [ __ ] that's 304 that's it's an area cut area C

Brian Atlasdefinitely an area cod yo LP thank you man appreciate it um I want to see #f freei in the chat um that was big last

Micktime yeah hash free miic mck freed hasht or maybe hash MC freed you're free free at last free at last here say it I am

Mickfree no say it say free at last free at last free at last free at last yes do the rest of the monologue oh do you know the rest of the monologue no free at

Jamiemonther King Jr oh no I just familiar with that no should can I add a controversial topic to that okay so it's apparent that it's kind of

Jamielike what he's into right like it seems like he kind of what's he what's he into I don't know like see he said well not even if she's on feetfinder like that kind of tells me that he's kind of like into that world a little I don't think

Jamieso wait feet you're into feet he was brainwashed just s sex worker type of like atmosphere so I my family members

Jamieown a strip club so I grew up like doing doing my math homework next to strippers and you know some of them are exactly what he's explaining they have narcissistic Tendencies they have you

Jamieknow all sorts of issues stemming from their childhood but there's also ones who have husbands who they go to work and they go home and their husbands are okay with it and I I really that's a big

JamieL that's a big L for husband it it is but if that's that person's Choice then at least look out for the red flags like like he was explaining she doesn't drive she has anxiety to do this so what else is this person like offering or bringing

Jamieto the table if that is what you know your choice is to choose someone in that field I wouldn't just say don't date anyone like that because there are there's shitty people everywhere and there's good people everywhere that's so true like I really but I mean that's

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonkind of like the risk you have to take when you're getting into a relationship with someone that does work in the sex industry they have such a big audience they they can easily cheat on you no matter what you don't think anyone can easily cheat on you no matter what cuz

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthere's like hardcore Christians that are doing way worse than people like those have a bigger audience more options and more opportunities to be able to cheat on statistic that says that people in medical field cheat the

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonmost literally number one I hear that yeah firefighters I hear that different only fans creators yeah there's probably some bad people in there but everyone I've met their only fans have been the most genuine like hardworking people

TTS Readerthey good parents they're good girlfriends Raven DT donated $100 Mick learn to recognize in abling behaviors in yourself because that's

TTS Readerwhat allows people to take advantage of you learn about healthy boundaries be willing to walk away if she won't respect them talk to a therapist to help guide you #f free yeah that's exactly

Jamiewhat I'm saying like that that's the answer right there not necessarily avoiding someone in any certain line of work because that can be anywhere set boundaries and and she she stripped with some girls that were like just trying to put themselves through medical school

Mickand they were just very Norm noral outside of the strip club so it's not it's not just hold on hold on hold on hold on my dude there are a lot of fish in the sea

Brian Atlasyou need not date one of the fish that does sex work my dude you don't like it you got to understand man like it's just an immediate L to be

Brian Atlasdating that kind of girl I get it it's immediate L I don't care how nice she is it's definitely a red flag yes it's a done deal yeah if I was a bro if I was a they're they're good they're good for hookups but they're not necessar they're

Micknot even good for hookups they're not even good for hook in my well at least in my view not even good for hookups really I don't want anything well with a girl who does sex work no offense ladies no offense ladies well I would say yeah I mean definitely if you're looking for

Micksomeone you love and want to be committed to you probably should look for someone in a different industry I told you he's into it but is he into it he's into like

Micksomething I don't think so not the like why don't you want to let go of that like I'm just saying that they're not all bad people okay that's what I bad person a good partner you know yeah well

Brian Atlasand they might necessarily be a good partner but maybe a friend you know Mick lost wait question Mick if key came back right now and was like I want to get back together would you get back

Mickwith her that's what she wants but that's not happening that okay good because she told me she's you'll stick around for me I can go bang this other guy in Australia right now and then if I if things don't work out with him you

Mickcan just come back to me it's better than being uh single and stuff and I'm like no actually you're treating me so shitty and like nobody wants to be second fiddle I mean do you ladies think that that's okay for her to act like she

Mickdeserve to be single like if she if she breaks up with him and things don't work out with him in a year and I take her back I'm a sucker right I mean go I

Mickwould never let a guy treat me yeah so yeah uh let's we'll move on but uh and and that's part of her delusions that she has that she really thinks that I

Mickwill be like I can be manipulated that far that I can be manipulated to just come back with her you know like that it's just it's crazy what a shame don't get back with her don't get back with

Brian Atlasher Mick yo raven d they're not bad people that just make really bad decisions what good is hooking up with an of30 fo if 6 months later your falls

Brian Atlasoff that's that is true well most people in the industry put Dynamite around it you know are really good about their health like really are they yeah no no I'm serious where's Jay Butler Jay

TTS ReaderButler [ __ ] starts dropping chats because we're going to we're going there what in what industry are you referring to hold on donated $100 yo MC put on a flannel like Brian

Mickand got I'm going to get and probably get laid to # free he's got one when when I'm hiking around the um mountains and stuff in like North

MickCarolina I usually will be wearing a flannel yeah I used to do forestry firefighting and I would wear that sometimes be cold up there it is it's

Mickcold up in the mountains it's going to be a cold winter for sure what is your biggest takeaway from this breakup that you've been going to um I think I I think when we first met I was more young

Mickand naive so I was like just willing to get with whoever was the first uh cute girl that would talk to me and now I'm like you're going to be smart now now I'm like

Mickwilling to be a little more uh patient and stuff especially cuz I'm older and not as uh horny as I was when I was a young man uh settl you know so I'm not going to settle I'm going to find

Micksomeone that's perfect for me and that doesn't mean I can't talk to you and we can't get to know each other but I'm if I don't think it's going to work work out it'll just be like hey it's not going to work out you know it's

Brian Atlasbeautiful put it on all right mix joining I also have a seven lapel here seven lapel pin for you to wear okay now we're matching right maybe

Brian Atlasyou'll have to earn it by the end of the show uh all right mix putting on the purple flannel there you have it folks uh okay let's pull up the twitch really

Brian Atlasquick guys go to twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have one twitch.tv/ whatever let me shout everybody out here yo swordless hey thank you for the tier three blur

Brian Atlasthank for the prime Dario thank you for the tier one rum thank you for the prime appreciate it guys thank you guys twitch.tv whatever drops follow drops

Brian Atlasdrth Prime sub hold on just one sec let me just make sure we got through all these I think we got them

Brian Atlasall yeah oh we got this coming in hold on wait oh I'll read it 75 bodies I didn't even have one until I was 20 please find God is that to me wait just

Brian Atlasone clarification on your list so if I if we do the counting of the people on the list plus the four johnos was it four johnos or five John do four four I

Brian Atlasthink the math that the chat did was at 56 total do you have do you have you counted no um but you said you stopped

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthe list in April in April yeah but is there a new I in a so since I have like stopped with seeking and stuff like I honestly I normally just stick to like

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonone or two guys like I don't seek are you talking about the arrangements yeah but ever since I stopped with that like cuz I used to have like multiple sugar daddies at the same time but um no ever since I stopped with that

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonlike like I said like I only like see like one guy actually I see like I see another guy every so often like when I go hang out with like certain friends and stuff we all say hang out in the same group but that's not like I don't like hit him up and like every week and

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonstuff and like we hang out it's just kind of like whenever I see him okay but no I don't like hookup like that was all in the span of like I know that was that there is a lot in the span of like a year but that was kind of like my whole phase if you would say it like I don't

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonreally like even with only fans and stuff like most girls like myself they hook up with one guy like they they only do boy girl content with one guy they won't do with like a whole bunch of guys like when you're on PornHub and stuff

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonsame with like with girls too you kind of hook up you hook up with like different girls as well but uh it's normally kind of like the same girls that you see your like that are your friends with that you collab with and stuff like that

Brian Atlasso okay all right you mentioned ho phas let's go around the table on that who here by show of hand has had a ho phase

Brian Atlasshow of hand have you had what does that mean a ho phase said what does that mean you wild out what was your can you can you show the this camera your tattoo oh yeah I have I have two Palm tattoos I'm

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisoncovered in tattoos what does it say heartless yeah are you heartless have you seen the weekend the song it's from his song but no I'm definitely not is

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthat guy who who the weekend what about the weekend song called heartless who who's he the weekend what about the weekend he has a song called are you

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisontalking about Saturday and Sunday oh my yeah his name's Abel but who's whose name the weekend from the band what about the weekend gosh okay he's a famous artist

Brian Atlasyou know who he is but yeah that's the [ __ ] is that guy okay yeah it's also a word in the English dictionary but um it is what about

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonyou oh sorry H were we doing yeah we all had our hands up wait all of us really I think everybody did I had mine you had

Mickone normal what everybody's had a mick have you had a HOAs no I haven't or no I haven't had a ho phas yes you do partn

Mickhave can men have a ho phas yes of course they are manes out there oh okay I guess no I mean all right no I I don't I'm kind of I'm kind of like a

McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonWallflower you know I've had a ho phas and a cabany face I've had a Cy face too to Let's double wh okay well she left uh when you say you had a ho phase what

Brian Atlaswhat does a hoase look like what do we talking here you asking me yeah yeah yeah um I slept with like four guys in a month that was a ho face when I was like

Brian Atlasyounger I've it's not the worst I've ever heard I lost my virginity at 18 so it was like right after that four in a month that's one every week I mean i' some girls be doing three in a three in a day five in a day never have I had

Brian Atlasthat big of a whole face we had a girl on who did five girl five dudes in a day I bet that was a very sore day for her yeah yeah I'm not sure I would think so

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonshe seemed cool with it so I don't know she was also a sex addict so she was like again sexual addiction she was recovering a recovery yeah cuz she did

Mickregretted that decision to do that every day like that so four four and a month uh was that the extent of the H just like a one month yeah that's it I lost

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonmy virginity and I was like woo this oh wait the H phas started at the loss of your virginity actually no I had two ho phases let me let me go back

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonto this talk about thees so I had one when I lost my virginity at 18 and then may of 2020 I had another one after my celeny because I got really attached to

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthe guy that I chose to sleep with yeah and um he broke my heart he broke your heart he broke my heart so I just dating the guy I wasn't dating him oh how did

Brian Atlasyou break your heart because I liked him a lot and I lost my camany to him him I felt heartbroken wait what so you met him you were celibate and he was so hot that you CH like were you planning

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonalready yeah I was ready to get out of it so I started like going on dates with people and we waited like a month and a half and it was my birthday and I was like you know what this is my birthday

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonpresent so oh you You' been dating him for a month and a half seeing each other hanging out Netflix and chill dinners yeah yeah and then you guys up just once and then it was over no we hooked up for like 3

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonmonths and then that's whenever I was like I got really attached to him because like I hadn't felt like Intimacy in so long and then you know I really liked him oh okay so but the hope is you

Brian Atlassaid you lost your virginity and then you had the HOAs yeah so like who you the person you lost V your virginity to was just like random guy it was a guy who was dating in high

Brian Atlasschool um he actually his dad was a preacher so Preacher's Son yeah very uncomfortable uncomfortable yeah you hooked up in the church is that what

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonhappened no but his mom was kind of crazy and like made us leave the door open and like she like w in made you leave the door open while you guys were just like hanging out yeah he was 19 I

Brian Atlaswas 18 okay but so okay you hooked up with him how long did you see him after like three months oh three months okay

Brian Atlashe was too boring for me I could do it he was too boring for you yeah um too boring what what do you mean too how so like he was just a boring person uh I'm

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonalso from a really small town like there's like 500 people in my my hometown what what does it mean if a guy's like too boring I don't know I what does that mean he just wasn't interesting like he was lazy and just

Brian Atlasnot an interesting person so do you but I mean did wouldn't you find that out pretty early on like you lost your virginity to like a really boring guy that you don't really like yeah it sucked and that's why I had that

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonlittle face cuz I had to like get some excitement I guess I don't know you had to get excitement I had to get some excitement

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonyeah and also I was really young and like that was like 18 come on wait where are you from I detect a bit of an accent so I'm living in La I've lived there for

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisona bit um but I'm from Tennessee Tennessee Morgan County Tennessee how close is that to Nashville oh like 3 hours I literally live in the mountain

Brian Atlasthe sticks yeah you're in the sticks I graduated with 50 people good times good times okay so this Bor maybe we can come back to

Brian Atlasthe whole boring thing um that could be interesting some guys are boring no are you boring no I'm so fun are you yeah Mak me laugh I think I have a great

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonpersonality make me laugh right now okay um I'm ready I got a joke for you what did the grape say when it got stepped on probably could have been split on the

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonwhat's what did the grape say when it got stepped

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonon no answer one it let out a little wine damn you you're ahead of me has someone told you that one no I just I was thinking what can you make with gr that's a good joke come on good give me

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisona little credit okay give me like two points out of 10 I'll give you three okay thank you I thought it was a good

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonjoke okay obviously stop it get some help okay I'm a boring person then entertain me I could tell you some crazy stories

Brian Atlasbut that's not really entertaining that's just like wild and okay I think I'm I don't know where I'm going I'm not sure where I'm going I don't think I'm a boring person I'm boring you're boring

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonyeah I'm really boring what's your favorite thing to do I love movies I like movies I've spent the last uh two months my weekends I typically am home

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonso I spend Fridays I go to the gym 5 days a week but I spend um typically I love to spend my Fridays and Saturdays watching movies like last weekend I watched Interview with the Vampire the

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonoriginal movie uh the weekend and then um the night before the Pod like coming to California I watched um the forever Purge that movie is so good but yeah I'm

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonpretty boring I don't enjoy going out too

Brian Atlasmuch checks out um you weren't always boring though were you I was still pretty boring did you

Brian Atlastell us you used to dance right yeah you used to be a stripper uh yes is that correct okay uh okay hold on guys I'm just getting my notes here where the

Brian Atlas[ __ ] were we we're talking about boring the Reddit thing oh that was related to I guess we could do that really quick all right we already did this before but it's it was related to the conversation Nick if you can make it

Brian Atlassmaller not video tab we're not on the video um no no no no make us smaller make the text bigger

Brian Atlasplease but can you make it all right I'm I'm I'm I'm oh my God I can't [ __ ] speak tonight okay I'm unsure if I should tell my boyfriend this information I've recently gone official with a man I've been dating for

Brian Atlasa couple months this is related to your thing with the your you got two situation ships and if a new guy were to come into the picture you'd make him wait I've recently gone official with a man oh my God I can't believe it's taking us this long to get to this okay sorry I've

Brian Atlasrecently gone fishal with a man I've been dating for a couple months he's kind respectful and considerate I really think he could be the one but something is eating at me I want to build slowly with this man so we didn't didn't become

Brian Atlasintimate until after going exclusive but between the first date and that point I did see an old friends with benefits a couple of times back then I didn't think anything of it as I wasn't exclusive but

Brian AtlasI underestimated how much I would care for my boyfriend and I feel almost like I've cheated on him have I done something wrong do I need to tell him will he end things with me so this girl is posting

Brian Atlason Reddit asking for advice update so she did tell him there was mixed reactions here but my gut told me I should tell my boyfriend he said sorry I don't want to

Kiarabe in a relationship with someone who does that then he blocked me on everything good for him yeah boom honestly see I think it's different cuz

Brian Atlasthat guy ended up being um that's the boyfriend right and then she went to go see a friends with benefits so it would be different while he's going on dates with her going on dates with her and she said they were

Brian Atlasnot exclusive there was no discussions of being exclusive but

Brian Atlasyeah oh well I mean I don't know what to say to that I guess well because okay you said

Brian Atlasthat you you would like to wait to have sex with a new person you meet two months something like that was it two months a month one month two months 10 dates or

Brian Atlassomething and it's kind of like similar to that situation because you're currently in a situationship with two guys you're sleeping with both of them I don't like what guy in his right

Brian Atlasmind would want to wait to have sex with a woman who is while you are courting her while she's making you wait she's [ __ ] two other men I also feel like

Kiarait's it should be a discussion let's say with that new person depending on like what we agree on like okay if we're like oh you know I'm not seeing no one and I agree with that too

Kiarathen I would definitely cut that off I I think first day I mean isn't it it's too soon to cut

Brian Atlasties cuz but I think it was more than a one Daye right well the yeah the the Reddit post it was they were dating for what was it two months if you can pull it up real quick

Brian AtlasNick um she recently went official with a guy she was dating for a couple months so for those first couple months I guess they weren't official they weren't exclusive but during that non-exclusive

Brian Atlasperiod she was having sex with a Friends with Benefits um but they didn't have sex until she was uh they didn't have sex

Brian Atlasuntil she was they were exclusive because she said oh I want to wait mhm so I guess my issue is it's like it's fine if you want to wait but it's kind of

Brian Atlasdon't drag it along right yeah don't drag what along like how no it's just like have I feel like you should have one standard like if for example if I met a girl and the like a week before we

Brian Atlasmet she [ __ ] a guy immediately and then I meet her and she's like oh I like to wait two months I'm like okay you're playing me goodbye yeah I kind of agree with that I don't know it's just

Brian Atlaslike look you're free at any given time you could have slept with a thousand men before me you could have slept with a thousand men before me within 10 minutes of meeting them you meet me you could say I'm waiting till marriage that's

Brian Atlasalways going to be your right but I'm going to look at you like a [ __ ] clown and you're not getting my you're not getting my time does nobody I could agre I kind of

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonagree with that like it would be like if it was vice versa like if a guy you know did that to me I wouldn't like that I think yeah but then why are you

Jamiemaking this one guy wait and why are you not making this other guy wait so people girls tend to make guys wait because why they take that seriously if they don't take it seriously then they're just going to sleep with you cuz that was the

Jamiegoal so but why wouldn't they just sleep with them immediately know what why wouldn't they sleep with them immediately then I I guess if you care about that person and you're supposed to

Jamiewait and not rush things I guess as opposed to just having a one night stand and meeting someone and sleeping with them here let me ask this question for the whole Panem have you ever been

Brian Atlasdating a guy and you made him him wait because maybe you really liked him all the while you were like hooking up with a friend you had friends with

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonbenefits and F bu not that situation no uh no I've never dated any well you don't you've never dated anybody you've never waited uh so around the table on this I wasn't hooking up with people at all I was like really focused on that

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonone person and like going on dates with them but I definitely didn't close off my roster I still like flirted with people and talked to them just in case it didn't work out but I was very interested and when I know I'm

Jamieinterested in someone I pursue that yeah no yeah I guess just to your point it depends on the situation so yeah you

Kiarashouldn't be [ __ ] someone while making someone else wait for it that is like contradictory for sure yeah no like if I truly like that person of course I would like you know not meet up with

Kiaraother people and as you said I would keep my roster open but I don't think I would be like messing with actively sting or sex sex you'd keep your roster up or open open for now like you know

Kiarastill talk to them and stuff like that cuz what if the guy ends up being a total loser yeah well if I like someone I'mma you know focus on that like yeah okay if sex is about being comfortable

Audi/Mickwith somebody I don't think that if you're waiting for 3 months that's a weird like you're not comfortable around your person after months okay I like to get to know

Jamiesomeone as a friend though too like you know beforehand and kind of like Vibe them out you know before I give them my body I agree with what you said though because I did say 3 months but however

Jamieif I did fully wait 3 months with you I probably don't like you that much so that is an honest answer can I ask a question about rosters yeah let me I I I just want to

Brian Atlasaddress the Reddit post really quick I think uh while they weren't exclusive I do think it's a reasonable assumption for someone to make that if you're waiting

Brian Atlasand they claim to be building something they aren't out [ __ ] other people yeah um and uh I don't know you cannot be ready for an emotional commitment to

Brian Atlassomeone and want to take it slow while still seeking casual intimacy with someone else in the meantime so uh yeah I don't know uh buy a sex

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisontoy if you want that gr that's not the same as the real thing though the real thing is different let me read this all right Austin Smith we all saw that coming you

Brian Atlasfool this dude did did I read this I don't know uh did I read it this dude is a walking out these are the men we have when the draft comes Austin Smith directed in nick nick uh or sorry Mick excuse me um

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonyou had something you wanted to ask on something rosters yeah I just learned what they were the beginning of the year from my friend what's the point so is everybody on your roster like people that you like that you're trying to

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonfigure out if you're going to date or is it like people that you're sleeping with uh for me since well yeah some people do like dating and sleeping with but like since I don't date it's just people I

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonsleep with different for everyone I guess yeah it could also be just like a backup up like if you're talking to the top guy on your roster and it doesn't work out you're going to go to the next person which I don't I personally think

Jamiethat if you're talking to one person your attention should be to them you could be talking to you could be sleeping with all of them or you could be sleeping with none of them but I feel like as long as you're in some sort of constant like flirtatious activity with

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthem then that's like could be your roster yeah but like I said before that when I was in high school like I had a roster like five guys but like I used to rank them like that's different but like it was still a roster like it still like

Brian Atlasthat I liked and I like wanted to do stuff with you know good times uh I have so so I'm going to get into the pre-show notes segment a lot of you guys provided some pre-show notes we have Kiara you said you were dating an ex and we were

Kiaraboth very abusive and I kicked him in the throat yeah I did say that yeah you want me to that's pretty funny it not really cuz I mean I'm not that's not like one of my proudest moments you

Kiarakicked him in the throat so it's cuz we were like not good it's just he I was I was like in a Prius and I I I don't know I think it's called the dashboard I was like you know where the the passenger

Kiaraseat is but my back was kind of like face on the dash like where the windows at the dash so you were facing towards the seat you turned around yeah I was turned around right yeah that's cool but can you talk into the microphone yeah I

Kiarahad turned around and like he grabbed me by my shirt and I was like don't do that and like you know he was like grabbing my shirt and I had um some sandals on

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonand I like kicked them kind of a little hard what's the context though like he was grabbing your shirt why this was like a Chris Brown end of relationship

Kiaraargument honestly I don't I don't even remember why that happened um like was he angry at you or yeah we were likeing

Kiaramess around um I'm trying to remember why that happened I think cuz I think cuz I was I went to my we went to drop off one of my friends and

Kiaraum I I went inside to go say hi to her his mom I mean I'm sorry my friend's mom and he thought I was doing something else and we had like a whole argument when I

Kiaracame back into the car was it the male friend no it was a girlfriend she yeah yeah I just want to go say hi to her mom cuz I've known her for like 10 years is

Brian Atlasthis the ex that you're currently seeing no no okay all right uh let's see who do

Brian Atlaswe have we have uh I felt bad he was crying he was crying you like smash his wind I kicked him literally like right

Kiarahere is he choking he was like and he was crying and I felt bad but was it self-defense though yeah I feel like it

Brian Atlaswas self-defense self-defense yeah all right uh let's see we have Sage Brush is that your actual name or that's just your Instagram name Sage is my real name

Brian AtlasSage is my real name okay you said you used to be a a stripper which is something you're not proud of how long did you strip for about 3 months okay uh

Brian Atlas[Music] you do you is there something wrong with your bladder or you just getting up a lot I've been okay all right all right all right um You said you dated a

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonbusiness commercial construction business owner who came to this sorry I kind of explained it weird I'm bad at texting um I dated somebody that did he worked in commercial construction he did

McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonsighting and Framing and uh came to the states when he was about my age 18 he was he 49 now okay um you said he forced you to

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