00:00:16Brian Atlaswelcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast thank you for tuning in tonight you could been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that we're coming to you live from Santa Barbara California every Sunday and Tuesday at 5: p.m Pacific normally 5: PM
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00:02:09McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonintroduce themselves please tell us your name age in occupation go ahead hello my name is McKenna seagar I'm 21 and I do only fans okay what about you um I'm Haley
00:02:21McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonJackson I'm going to opt out of the age one I have a reason for that why so are you over 18 yes I'll show you my ID um why you opting on the AG two years ago I
00:02:32McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonhad a subscriber on only fans find my address because he did the math on my birthday and he had my full birthday and he had my full name and he was stalking
00:02:42McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonme and had photos of my car so it was like a really weird situation so now I just decided not to share that on social media I
00:02:53McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonmean it's not clear to me if like someone being able to determine your birth date when it comes to the year you were born could lead anybody to
00:03:03McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonhe had my full name and my date of birth like my actual date of birth but your age would only indicate your birth year yeah true so I'm not that you don't
00:03:16McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonneed to tell us your I just wonder if people would like see on my social media that my birthday is can you give us an age range
00:03:23McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madison26 I'm 26 okay what about you hi my name is sage and I'm 25 I work in finance all right welcome I'm Jamie I'm
00:03:35Kiara31 and I work in the dog grooming industry hi my name is Kiara and I'm 23 years old and I do only
00:03:44Audi/Mickfans I'm Audi AKA ai's drip I'm 22 years old and I'm an artist I'm Mick and I'm 27 and I work in
00:03:54McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthe music industry I'm Madison I'm 18 years old I'm a student student at Santa Bara City College studying at business I work for the whatever podcast I'm a host at a bar
00:04:06Brian Atlasand yeah all right we're going to go around the table uh once more what's your current relationship status are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married polyle sex cult uh how long have
00:04:17Brian Atlasyou been single if you're single longest relationship go ahead uh I'm single currently and I've been single for my whole life uh single currently single for your whole life what's the longest period of
00:04:29McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisontime that you've dated somebody I've never dated anybody what's the longest period of time you've seen somebody um I've been in like situationship I was in a situationship
00:04:41Brian Atlasfor like a year okay so your longest situationship was a year yeah okay but single your whole life yes longest situationship one year um was it on
00:04:52Brian Atlasagain off again or was it yeah were you guys monogamous uh no was it open on his end or your end or both it was both ends we were both like seeing other people you were seeing
00:05:06Brian Atlasother people at the same time yeah how many people are you currently seeing um one is it the current
00:05:16McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonsituationship yeah it is you've been seeing somebody for one year so you're single no it well it was a year sorry but it was a year and then we stopped seeing each other for a year and now and now it's back on yeah oh so
00:05:28Brian Atlasit is it is on again off again yes definitely okay you're not really single are you I mean you're currently sleeping with somebody well I'll sleep with other people huh I'll sleep with other people for sure but but you're just seeing him right now yeah I'm not just I'm not
00:05:41Brian Atlasinterested in anybody else to see or like to have sex with I guess okay when in your first round of the situationship you were you said you were seeing other people like what was the most amount of people that you were
00:05:52McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonseeing at any one given time um so I used to do professional fashion modeling and I went to Milan and and when I was there I probably saw I saw a lot of guys I don't I can't even
00:06:04McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisongive us a give us a range range give us a range why not uh maybe like so I was there for like 2 months and I think
00:06:13Brian AtlasI there was like probably two every week two two every week yeah two guys two new guys every two new guys every week yes
00:06:21McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonin the rotation yes in the rot and then I went back came back to California and wait so let's do the math here
00:06:30Brian Atlasoh [ __ ] two you were there for two months two every week four weeks in a
00:06:38Brian Atlasmonth not bad 16 yes around there more than 16 there's more than 16 okay yeah maybe maybe do you have a total number
00:06:49McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisondo you keep a diary who keeps a diary I've I've kept a diary I've kept I've kept a list but now I just I like lost I you lost the list I didn't lose it it's in your notes on your phone it is on my
00:07:02McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonphone it is but wait can who else here has a list of all the guys they everybody no but I like stopped putting names on the list at a certain point cuz I would forget
00:07:13McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonto so can we see the list you want to see the list some of them are like empty spaces because because I like there was like one that I I just didn't know his
00:07:23Brian Atlasname okay yeah okay so I just made a little space you should call them John Doe I yeah my John do can we actually go through the list you want to go through
00:07:34Brian Atlasit can we go through the list let's do it [ __ ] it let's let's go through the list okay is the list caught up no it's
00:07:43Brian Atlasoutdated it's okay that's sufficient outdated list is sufficient um let's see okay so while you're pulling that up there you were in Italy
00:07:55Brian Atlasyou were in Milan uh getting your date on in Italy um was this while you were on with the situation ship or were you off at this
00:08:05McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonpoint we were on but it was never like a it wasn't like we never had that like talk to be exclusive or anything so that's why like we would just kind of do whatever we wanted we got a squeaker Chair by the
00:08:16Brian Atlasway I don't know if you guys um can we do something about that which one is it I don't know who's got the squeaker is it yours uh just get a get a big proper chair and we'll we'll swap it
00:08:28Brian Atlasout uh yeah that's definitely a squeaker now that's gonna trigger me all night okay um what's the list how's the list looking
00:08:37McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonlet's it's not even it's not even it's not even that bad you guys are it's not that bad no I scrolling the scrolling was scrolling
00:08:48McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthe scrolling I also would put okay so last time I updated it was April 8th cuz I used to put the last day that I would have sex in do you sleep with girls and guys yes I so that kind of that kind of
00:08:59Brian Atlaskind of makes it a little better a little better a little bigger or a little better bigger bigger list yeah no well so what's on the list can you can
00:09:10Brian Atlasyou f before tell telling us what the list is is it like name it's names and then it's also empty spaces and like usernames but is it just names or do you put like details like is it a spread
00:09:23McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonfirefighter is there a spreadsheet where there's like pen size and the wish I did that I should have I used to when I was in high school I used to rank guys I would have like five guys that I'd be like talking to and I'd be like oh well
00:09:36McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonhe talked to me today so I'm going to put them at number one like rank I would rank them yeah this is during High School yes high school and you'd rank them during High School uh what and you said it was up to five
00:09:48McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonwas there more than five at any point no it was just five five that was the extent of the roster in high school yeah and were any of them they were all high school boys or some of them like college uh I started get into college guys like
00:10:00Brian Atlaswhen I was like a sophomore or yeah so high school yeah yeah that's we need to boost the audio um Nick if you can yep uh so okay what does the list say
00:10:13McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonwhat's your list say just read it just read it you want me to name the names uh well is it full names I don't know if we want no it's not full names but first name it's first names and it yeah that's okay I guess that's fine can you say the
00:10:25Brian Atlastitle of it too list of bodies that's her notes that's in my notes yes that's awesome okay appreciate the
00:10:36McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonhonesty see a lot of people have what you have but they wouldn't have the courage and the for because I I know every girl has one I talk to every girl like yeah or like they'll have they
00:10:46McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisondefinitely have one I've never kept one I can count in my head the C it's a it's a uh brain list
00:10:57Brian Atlasyou have yeah I don't lose track uh go ahead tell us and wait is this the Italy list oh you want me to start I'll start in Italy yeah because I don't want to start in high school no no no no let's start let's goe High School [ __ ] it
00:11:09McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonlet's do it okay you're starting at the beginning of the list okay wa and I'm naming the names sure why not okay first one was
00:11:18McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonGMO shut the [ __ ] up no way yeah yes are you cuz I feel like that's a you know what's even more embarrassing I'm literally am so embarrassed to say this he was literally he's a SoundCloud and
00:11:29McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonit's sound that might be enough to ID him chat get on it no no no no no don't idea is that his like SoundCloud Rec no no no no that's not his name cuz like
00:11:42Brian Atlasguos seems like a troll name like it's like you might you could have said like Bartholomew or some [ __ ] would be more believable than guo but wait the you lost your virginity to a guo oh my God
00:11:53Brian Atlasyeah backseat of a car too no offense to guos out there but yeah he he's an awful guy too it's it's
00:12:02McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonnot I'm not sure okay so continue okay I have Sammy is that a woman that is a guy I have Xavier I have
00:12:14Brian AtlasJeremiah I have namir I have jet with the very unique names like where's the John is there a JN anywhere is there like a a Benjamin
00:12:26Brian Atlasthere's a Ben I have a couple Ben are these all how you're 21 right are you are you gen Z that makes you gen Z does it just like gen Z Zoomers just have
00:12:35Brian Atlaslike crazy ass names is that no idea who names gen Z are those is that Gen X are your parents Gen X or they I have no idea my dad my dad was born in when was
00:12:47Brian Atlashe born 72 I think that makes him Gen X right the [ __ ] Gen X just be naming their kids some crazy [ __ ] okay so sorry continue continue I'm I I kind of want to get to the start from from the
00:12:59McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonbeginning again and we'll just I won't interrupt go ahead okay start from the beginning you want me to blast the names
00:13:05McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonokay gyo Sammy Xavier Jeremiah namir jet peso Roman Jack Bradley Lucas Sierra Colby I don't know how to SP that how
00:13:18McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonwould you pronounce that asking the wrong girl J Julia he was from Italy Italian name Ricardo Aon Lorenzo and another Ricardo there's a
00:13:30McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonlot of Ricardos in Italy okay um Dirk Dirk Olivier or Oliver Olivier I don't know it's very unique name it's
00:13:43McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonUnique they're from Amsterdam yeah I feel like all their names would be kind of weird now no in Italy but like keep keep going no don't keep going keep just keep going um okay
00:13:57McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonMikey uh there we go sebie Ben sephr Ben
00:14:04McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonEddie Cindy Tim Jason Omar Sam Enrique Nick Daniel Brandon Eric Tony I have a I
00:14:17McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonhave one I think it's a username it's Beach life yep yeah uh
00:14:22McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonBrock Yan Louie uh SAA Santa uh Tyler Andy Johnny Thomas Emily Steve Brandon Franco Monty and then
00:14:36McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonfirefighter is that I don't any I think I counted 51 that was impressive you can tell right when it comes back to the States though like yes yeah you can tell when you're like okay these are like
00:14:48Brian Atlassome American names that was beautiful that was like Poetic I know I was like saying that uh okay so you've got the list
00:14:59Brian Atlasand that's good that was good I I mean I don't I haven't updated it was that a woman I think that was a guy actually huh yeah his name's his name is Cindy
00:15:10Brian Atlasyeah I think so huh I know interesting interesting interesting okay so um who's the situationship is that
00:15:21Brian AtlasLorenzo that's you don't have to that's Jack Jack okay normal name normal name there we go we're getting somewhere at least the this longer term thing you
00:15:32Brian Atlashave going on his name's he's got a normal-ish name yeah uh okay so uh but you're not currently seeing anybody else right now or your options
00:15:43McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonare open you think no I I do have a guy that I am supposed to film with I actually got rid of the old guy that I used to film with for like only fans um you got rid of him yes he first of all he caught feelings for me and he was
00:15:53McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonjust being really weird yeah catching feelings I I don't do that at all like on catch feelings me catching feelings don't do that happens scares me doesn't happen to you what do you mean have
00:16:06McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonhaven't like you don't catch feelings for the people you sleep with I've caught in feelings before but like not like super hard where I go [ __ ] crazy over a
00:16:15Brian Atlasperson so okay fair enough fair enough well first off I I uh thank you for sharing that because I feel like most people would be maybe a little hesitant
00:16:25Brian Atlasbut I I very much uh applaud your your openness uh thank you and uh cool what about you so I'm in a
00:16:36McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonrelationship like a six Monon relationship my longest was like 2 years I think and then what was the other question uh I think that was it so the
00:16:46Brian Atlaslongest relationship 2 years you've been in a relationship for 6 months is that um your six-month relationship okay uh well I'll I'll come back to that what
00:16:58Brian Atlasabout you I'm single my longest relationship was 8 years off and on longest was 8 years off and on how
00:17:08McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonmany times was it off and on um how many breakups were there I guess honestly I don't quite remember um
00:17:20McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonwe met in high school uh he disappear like after I honestly I I can't say
00:17:34McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonwe'd I genuinely don't know how long it the periods were usually around a year and then we'd get back together but we're completely off
00:17:43Brian Atlasnow when's the last time that you were seeing this guy uh 2021 20 okay but uh so how many you don't recall like how
00:17:55McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonmany breakups there were is it more than 10 no not more than 10 okay uh and I was close with his family too so even when we were like off I was still really
00:18:05Brian Atlasclose with his family okay so how long have you been single uh two years years okay two years uh so has there been there's been no guys in that 2-year
00:18:16McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonperiod no I've gone on situationship kind of situationship sort of um kind of my second longest relationship 5 years off and on
00:18:32Jamieokay okay what about you um so I'm currently single my last relationship was a relationship turned situationship
00:18:42Jamieand the situationship part of it lasted about two years um lasted two years yeah so the whole thing was like three years total and then um my longest
00:18:52Brian Atlasrelationship was six years with baby daddy six years oh you have a kid I do two two kids from the same same same
00:19:01Jamieguy uh were you married it was not you were not married did you how long ago was
00:19:09Brian Atlasthat uh 2020 was the end was the end okay gotcha and when wait when was the 2year you said the one-year relationship two-year situationship is that right so
00:19:21Jamieit was it was pretty much right after that so like 2021 till very recently wait how soon after breaking up with baby daddy did you get into this
00:19:32Jamiethree-year thing M maybe like 3 4 months okay is he a rebound kind of or no it was the relationship with baby
00:19:42Jamiedaddy was over a a long time before it actually ended um so I no I wouldn't consider it that
00:19:52Brian Atlasokay you weren't married to no okay so one year how did it go from a was it a monogamous relationship baby daddy or no the the
00:20:04Jamieother one yes yes so it was monogamous but then it turned into a two-year situationship how did how did that happen yeah so we lived together and then um we got in a fight on vacation he moved out and then ever since then it's
00:20:16Jamiejust been kind of like touch and go we haven't been able to kind of get it together so count good question go ahead what's the difference between a relationship
00:20:26Jamieand a situationship are are you asking me yeah um so in my opinion I guess it depends on your agreement with that other person um so when you have those you know
00:20:38Jamierelationships where it's like oh we're not we don't have a title we don't have a you know a a a group that we put ourselves in but we're still sleeping together and we're still like remaining
00:20:49Jamiemonogamous I would consider that a situationship so still seeing each other but like technically you can go out on dates but you're not really supposed to type
00:21:00TTS Readerthing I'm just wondering like who initiated going from a monogamous relationship into a situationship hold on grid One Motorsports donated
00:21:12TTS Reader$100 R doesn't catch feelings but she likely catches pretty much everything else going to need some extra strength bleach on that chair I always wondered
00:21:22McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonwhat daddy issues actually looked like now we all know did you ever response to G it's actually mommy and daddy issues
00:21:31Kiarathat does it looks pretty Double Trouble okay good times uh go ahead so I'm in a
00:21:39Kiarasituationship with two guys you're in a situationship yeah one two guys do they know about each other yeah they do they know about it yeah cuz I don't like
00:21:51Kiaradoing that like doing what being monogamous uh no I just would like to be honest about who I'm oh okay I see um how long have you been seeing both of them so one of them is my ex and I've
00:22:04Kiarabeen with him or I was with him when I was 18 and then we broke up stopped talking for a few years and then we recently like last year two years started talking again and then the other
00:22:15Kiaraguy he's a pilot um I just recently started talking to him but I think I'm going end that one soon how long have you been talking to the pilot about 2 to 3 months two to 3 months okay he got a girlfriend
00:22:28Brian Atlashe has a girlfriend and then what about your your other the ex guy he has he's also seeing other women yeah he has well he has a girlfriend they both have girlfriends do
00:22:42Brian Atlasthe girlfriends know yeah do the girlfriends know
00:22:51Kiarano it's very complicated situation um so are you you're sleeping with both of them yeah the pilot when he lands over here in Los Angeles but he lives over there
00:23:02Brian Atlasin Salvador is like is drugg no he's a pilot yeah like for drugs no just to like go out all right
00:23:14Brian Atlasum so is this an ideal situ do you like the current situation you're in dating two men who are have girlfriends no not
00:23:25Brian Atlasreally why don't you feel I mean they're aware that you're dating other people but don't you have any qualms with the fact that they're
00:23:37Brian Atlasnot being honest with their girlfriends that's on them yeah but don't you feel complicit to some degree and engaging in sexual relationships
00:23:47Brian Atlaswith men who have girlfriends I did feel bad but they're going to do it at the end of the day they're going to [ __ ] so you might as well be the one they [ __ ]
00:23:58Brian AtlasI would rat them out if I were you yes just me um okay so are you seeing any other
00:24:08Kiaraguys too or just these two yeah just them I I don't like like a one night stand I like something more you what what is that what is it
00:24:20Brian Atlaslike I don't know I just you want something more with two men who are in committed supposed committed relationships with other women Two Is Better Than One no I'm just kidding no but like what what is it more that you
00:24:32Kiarawant you want do you want a long-term monogamous relationship um I did but I mean I'm not going to get it out of them so I'm kind of just but so why pursue them if you can't get it out of them if that's what you want I don't like
00:24:44Brian Atlas[ __ ] new people you don't like [ __ ] new people no not really uh so is it like you don't want
00:24:52Brian Atlasto add a body what's it called recycling is that the term when you recycle a body um so but what are you looking for are you looking for something right now yeah
00:25:04Kiarawhenever it comes but I know I'm not going to get it from them what I'm saying okay so how often do you see them would you say the two guys that you're dating my ex every week sometimes twice
00:25:15Kiaraa week um and then the pilot whenever he comes so he usually comes to La like three times a month are you open to like
00:25:24Brian Atlasmaybe introducing a married man to your maybe add a married guy to the rotation what do you think about that no no no married men would you no would you feel
00:25:36Brian Atlasmore guilty about involving a married man getting involved with a married man kind of like home record type status or I mean you have you're current you have dated the married man no okay has
00:25:49Jamieanybody here dated somebody who was married or slept with somebody who's married who was not your husband she's smiling no no in a relationship but not married wait what do you meant damn
00:26:02Jamiesomeone who's been in a Rel who is in a relation someone who is in a relationship but not someone who's been married okay
00:26:14Brian Atlasso you're looking for something serious but you're currently don't you think sleeping with two men who have girlfriends who are you yourself have a assessed that they're not good long-term
00:26:26Brian AtlasPartners don't you think it might be holding you back from finding somebody who would be good for a long-term relationship if you're currently spending time with these men but you know yeah I mean I go out by
00:26:38Kiaramyself with my friends you know so I mean whoever comes to me like okay yeah so I think I I don't think it's wasting time it's like a good moment you know what's a good moment you said you
00:26:51Kiaraweren't really like happy so like what why haven't you gotten out of that situation cuz I don't know it's like I guess Comfort too
00:27:00Brian Atlasso it's kind of a good moment on behalf of somebody else's pain it's kind of crappy well I think the the person who
00:27:10Brian Atlashas the ultimate accountability here is the two two men for cheating on their girlfriends but I mean there's some
00:27:19McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonculpability for you because you're uh knowingly doing it yeah like I had somebody cheat on their girlfriend with me and I didn't know but that just that
00:27:31McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madison[ __ ] hurts somebody else did you rra them out yeah as soon as I found out I'm actually good friends with both of them now I love the girl um that was his
00:27:42McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisongirlfriend they broke up pretty quick after they she found out she was mean for months to me about it but like one day I kind of got tired of her being mean to me and explained to her I didn't
00:27:53McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonowe her loyalty I didn't know her and when I found out the first thing I did was tell her but her anger is directed at me when I had no clue and I genuinely
00:28:03McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonfelt really bad cuz like when somebody cheats they're exposing their partner they're putting their partner's body at risk for diseases and things that they'll never get rid of like that's the
00:28:17McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonbiggest thing about cheating that's messed up you're hurting your body and somebody else is without their consent that part valid word word
00:28:28Brian Atlasuh so wait you say you're like going out and uh trying to find a new guy or what yeah talking get to know people make when you when you like uh so you're open
00:28:38Kiarato meeting somebody new are you like are you on any dating apps right now um yeah just to promote my only fans though just to promote your only fans I don't talk to people how do you promote on your
00:28:49Kiaraonly fans on dating apps well I'll just I won't I'll just I won't make it clear like that cuz I think you could get banned but um I just put follow me on Instagram and okay nice pictur oh so you
00:29:00Brian Atlasjust have your Instagram linked in your profile will do you match with men do you talk to them on the apps um on dating apps no on the dating apps oh so you just have the profile you'll match
00:29:10Brian Atlaswith people but you won't engage in okay um I would preferably meet in person in person okay so you're using
00:29:20Brian Atlasthe dating apps to get more Instagram followers and only fans subscribers um would you if you met a new guy would you tell him about your that you're
00:29:32Brian Atlascurrently dating two other men mhm you you tell them do you think that most men if told that you're currently dating two other men would be cool about that cool
00:29:41Brian Atlaswith that no I don't think do you think they'd like a guy who'd be who you think would be good for a long-term relationship do you think he'd
00:29:52Kiarabe like ready to pounce on commitment um definitely not but depending on how long we talk and and you know I'm I would be
00:30:03Brian Atlaswilling to like cut that out you know you sorry you you would or you wouldn't be willing to cut I I would cut it out you would cut out would you when it comes to uh seeing somebody new and
00:30:15Brian Atlasmaybe we can go around the table on the we should go around the table on this um when it comes to having sex how long do you like to wait to have sex um is it I'd like to wait a while you you like to
00:30:26Brian Atlaswait a while M how long like a month or two a month or two how many dates would do you think that' be typically she's good she's good I
00:30:38Kiarathink it also depends on how good We Vibe too um dates maybe like I don't I would know like let's say what if you went on one date a week it could be it's
00:30:49Brian Atlaslike what eight dates a week or something yeah like four 10 10 Dates yeah yeah two you said one to two month months yeah wouldn't that be good so you meet a new so you meet a new guy and
00:31:01Brian Atlasthen you tell him okay we're going to wait no sex until yeah I could wait yeah okay uh going around the table on this how long do you guys think we should and we will get around fully to get
00:31:14Brian Atlaseveryone's relationship status but how long do you think you should wait before having sex with somebody or not at long I feel like first first time time uh it depends for people but for me I don't go
00:31:25Brian Atlason dates I don't when I when I use the term date a date doesn't necessarily have to be super formal in the sense of like Hey we're going to go get dinner and then we're
00:31:36Brian Atlasgoing to go see a mood like it a date could just be let's hang out okay um well if I'm going when you say you don't
00:31:46McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisongo on dates what do you do I just hang out with them watch movies we just like come over to my place yeah like I don't I don't like to because I don't want guys to think that I want to be in a relationship with them cuz like I don't so I don't like
00:31:58McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisongoing on dates and like I I just honestly I've gotten from so many guys they're like you know what there's something weird about you and then they come back and they like oh I know what it is like you don't ask questions about me and I'm like yeah cuz I don't [ __ ]
00:32:10McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisoncare I like I could care less like it's it's not even like me just like trying to have sex with them or anything it's just like I honestly just could not care like I don't about getting to know the cuz like if they take me out on a date
00:32:23McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonand like sometimes I'll like go like I'll see if I want to do it and like and then I I just get the vibe like okay I really don't like don't want to be here and then they're like they just keep asking questions about me and I'm just like oh like I'm just trying to get to the end of it like leave but no that's
00:32:36McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonwhy I don't really like going on dates cuz I feel like you're you get trapped there sometimes like you don't have anywhere to go if like something goes wrong but for me like if I'm going to hang out with a guy it's a guy that I'm sexually attracted to so like we're
00:32:48Brian Atlashaving sex so of the you did anyone by the way chat did anyone get a a total did we get a count on is it like 50 I think that was
00:32:59Brian AtlasI counted I think it's in the 50 but she she didn't count the johnos oh you didn't there were there were John Doe's oh my God how many whoa whoa whoa okay
00:33:09Brian Atlashold on we we must now revise the list just say John Doe John Doe John Doe John for as how many John Doe there are okay these are these are the names um Nick if
00:33:19Brian Atlasyou're able to adjust the exposure um these are the names of the men that you've hooked up with that you you don't know their
00:33:29McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonnames there's not that many one two three four oh just four John do four John 55 or like I I like knew their names but I just didn't
00:33:41Brian Atlasremember them when I like put in the list so I see so I made a little space for them gotcha they're still there so for you typically uh the question was how long do you think you should wait
00:33:51McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonbefore hooking up somebody having sex for you is it just for me it yeah same day cuz like if I'm going to hang out with a guy I'm obviously sexually attracted to him right so what's the uh so how do you typically meet the guys is
00:34:04McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonit through Instagram is it on dating apps I don't use dating apps no dating apps so how do you meet them like at bars and clubs uh yes but also I feel
00:34:13McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonlike I just like I reuse the same guys like I don't I don't really find new guys which is awful for me but what do you mean you reuse like I just use guys like from like my high school or
00:34:25TTS Readersomething the it's awful they're please tell me they're of age yes of age okay not not in no not like one motorport donated
00:34:35TTS Reader$100 why would red care about them as long as she gets paid up front she only needs to wait as long as it takes for the venmo to hit confirm or deny is there an exchange of cash is there
00:34:47Brian Atlasexchange I know you were in Italy was Euros do they use no I never got what's the old Italian currency the old one I don't know what's the old does anybody know chat what was the old Italian
00:34:57Brian Atlascurrency you know like how France had Franks they switched to euros L is it the Italian lra did you receive any
00:35:06McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonliras no for I never no when I go out on no definitely that wait so you said you'd meet them but you of the list you'd meet of the list so like how you
00:35:19McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonmeet them so some of those guys some of those guys were also like uh sugar daddies so sugar daddies okay so like from seeking um so yeah I guess I did like they did they did give me money some of them did but it wasn't just like
00:35:32Brian Atlasfor sex like I would also like you know I would go on dates with them I'd hang out with them I'd go on their boat i' you know stuff wait what percentage of the did any by the way did anyone what was the count I forgot what the count
00:35:42Brian Atlaswas I don't know 55 was it it's like 56 cuz you added four was it 51 was it did anybody in the chat count sorry I missed it if you already said it guys in the
00:35:52McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonchat um how many of them were sugar daddies um a couple I went through like I went through a phase for sure um a phase yeah when I I think when I the year that I think it was in
00:36:04McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madison2021 uh a couple of them were sugar daddies but my thing was like I had a friend who would like just [ __ ] any guy on there for like any amount of money like $50 and he was like 80 years old or like something like that she was wild
00:36:16McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonbut me forck yes no she was we should have had her on the show no yeah maybe I'll give you her info but she are you in La no I'm in San Diego okay is she in
00:36:27McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonSD too yeah she's in San Diego too but we'll get that of rain um but she was really wild but for me like my sugar daddies were in the range of like 30 to like 40 years old or like 30 and like 40s I would never do anyone like too old or like I would do it for a certain
00:36:41McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonamount of money I would never do it for like a certain like less like it I I had my standards with it you were you were yeah I I wasn't just doing everybody and anything you know but so with the sugar
00:36:52Brian Atlasdaddies they would there would be a cash exchange for for the services rendered yeah provided okay uh so but not all of the guys that you
00:37:05Brian Atlassome of the guys you hooked up with wasn't for money yeah for sure it was it was cuz you were attracted to them you thought they were hot you were maybe interested in them um maybe more so for
00:37:16McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthose guys how how long would you wait for them um it just I mean I feel like now that I'm older I would definitely try to wait because everyone tells me they're
00:37:29McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonlike oh you should definitely wait like if you're sexually attracted to somebody you should make them wait a little longer even my dad tells me that but I'm like but my thing is is like I am a very like I'm a very sexual person so I'm
00:37:41Brian Atlaslike I it's like hard for me to like wait and like I don't want to okay um that that's fine I mean I'm me personally I'm not a huge F of waiting so
00:37:53Brian Atlasuh so what's the quickest like you first meet a guy boom met him at the club bathroom
00:38:04Brian Atlaslike that have you had anything like that bathro behind a in the alleyway dumpster was about to say behind the dumpster wild hey let's not knock behind
00:38:14Brian Atlasthe dumpster okay it's a perfectly valid place to have sex with your future wife I think it was in Italy I met this guy at a party and he took me in the steam room the steam room yeah it was really
00:38:26McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonhot it was all wet and everything it was nice that sounds uncomfortable no it was amazing in the steam room yeah filmed it I know I wish I filmed it
00:38:37McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonI didn't do only fans back then I was a fashion model so good on there Haram um cuz I have a sauna I sauna almost
00:38:48Brian Atlasevery day and okay a sauna is like kind of though I would not want to [ __ ] in theic yeah more chill because you can control the amount of steam good times good times okay um what about
00:39:01McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonyou how long do you think you should wait before hooking up my most recent I waited from like July to October like July 14th to like October 1st is that you're last year of last year is this
00:39:14McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthe no this is not the guy you're currently in the relationship with oh wait so we had like a situationship before we actually officially dated so
00:39:24Brian Atlaswait you said from July to oob J July August September so like three to four months September sorry so it was two months two months yeah okay but I'm like
00:39:35McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonweird about like I like people to get tested and like all that so you like people I like people to get tested you sleep with them yeah cuz I do only straight up ask people like I need you
00:39:47McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonto get tested before well I do only fans and like if I do stuff with girls like we test before it's just like protocol you that's what I was going to I was going to ask your occupation um um yeah
00:39:57Brian AtlasI I would of course ask a guy to show me their test results valid unless it's like with protection you know word uh so okay the this one guy
00:40:09Brian Atlaswho you're currently dating he you waited two to three months to have sex with him wait question so you do o do you do BG content I have some x-r tapes
00:40:19McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonbut they're not like out there like that so they're like in a vault and they're like for The Big Spenders
00:40:28Brian Atlaslike I've only sold them to like a few people they're my VIP clients yeah there's so there's boy girl content of
00:40:38McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonview is it a literal Vault or like a metaphorical Vault so on only fans there's vaults and we organize them is that what is yeah they're called vaults
00:40:48McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonit's a vault so ially there's if you go to like the sidebar it says Vault okay but it's with my boyfriend and then like I said I do collabs with girls and like I do girl stuff I see okay oh the the BG
00:41:02Brian Atlascontent that you have is with your current boyfriend yeah I've never done boy girl content with anyone else anybody else I see okay so uh you said with this most recent guy you like you wanted to wait with him you
00:41:14Brian Atlaswaited it sounded like two months what about previous Partners waiting for them or at least a month really yeah I went celibate for 2 years actually celibacy yeah you were C
00:41:26McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonfor 2 years I was sober for a year I did the vegan thing and I did celibacy for 2 years celibate vegan all together Sober Sober but the sober lasted a year like
00:41:37McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonwhere I wasn't drinking alcohol and partying and then the vegan lasted like six years well like three and then I switched to pescatarian which is like vegetables and
00:41:48Brian Atlasfish I have a question wait you're vegan too right
00:41:55Brian Atlasm if a guy blasts sorry if this is vulgar if a guy blasts in your mouth are are you Tech because that's technically you're
00:42:05Brian Atlasconsuming an animal product right so are you technically can you not consume a man's seed if you're vegan no so no you can't it's not in the vegan books it's not in
00:42:17Jamiethe vegan books are you vegan too I've been vegan for significant periods of time yes yeah I there's nothing because as somebody who is not vegan I would
00:42:29Brian Atlasassume it is I think it's wrong maybe not like if you can't drink milk you question could you okay okay this is going to be a really crazy
00:42:39Jamiequestion okay so you're saying it's okay to consume a man's a human's male seed right yes but like for example you can't you can't drink milk like cow you
00:42:51Jamiecan't drink milk because cows are hooked up to machines and they're being tortured throughout that process I wouldn't necessarily say that the male is being tortured throughout that process so I'm going to go with no on
00:43:03Brian Atlasthat one I don't know some girls like keep sucking like and it hurts it hurts chill out a bit when we're climaxing also I just recently swallowed for the first time thank you for sharing that
00:43:15McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonone time literally so when I was when I was vegan I didn't ever swall come Abdul because because you were vegan I just had never tried it I don't know
00:43:26McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonso here's this happened at a spa though so it was like really fun
00:43:34Brian Atlasbut wait so you're but I thought just there there's uh like vegans it's not just because of the animal cruelty aspect it's like Health stuff too I think everyone gets into it for their
00:43:44Jamieown reason so I guess it really depends right so maybe some vegans don't I guess what I'm trying to get at is if you're vegan can you consume
00:43:57McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonI don't think vegans are male seed thinking that deep about I'm also not vegan anymore so what that be cannibalism if we count
00:44:05Brian Atlasit as vegan but here's the thing right could you as a vegan if you if it's okay to consume human male seed well hold
00:44:17Brian Atlason cuz now I'm thinking about cism could you eat could you be a vegan but eat a human are can you be vegan and sorry totally derailing this convers can you be vegan but eat a human and still be
00:44:30Brian Atlasconsidered vegan I think it's no meat at all like human meat but are humans considered animals we're considered meat are we're we're mamals animal products
00:44:39Brian Atlaswe are so so and that is a product of it just so so technically if you were to if you ate a human you would not be vegan you
00:44:51Brian Atlaswould be a cannibal but you also would not be a vegan exactly so if you're vegan you're not allowed to consume ma male seed so I think vegans are [ __ ] up
00:45:03McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthat's a great point that weird I'm assuming there's a bunch of vegans out there that are just let letting their boyfriends blast like I said when I was vegan I didn't and I had never done it
00:45:13Kiaratill recently so I where okay I don't know where that where that went what were we talking about we were talking I got a question what if you're vegan and but your boyfriend eats meat or your
00:45:25McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonother person my boyfriend does eat meat so but like I'm not vegan anymore it's a rough life I eat fish and like seafood how did we get here I forgot
00:45:37McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthat a good question how did we get here you brought us here what's your uh how long do you think you should wait before hooking up with somebody I don't really have a time period because I think that's kind of gamey I think that once
00:45:49McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonyou talk about intentions and if there's a connection I don't really even believe in kissing until you talk about intentions and um once you have a connection so I just kind of think it
00:46:00McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisondepends on your communication with the person what you both want and how do your goals correlate but you're you said you're currently single right yeah is there any uh I might have forgotten is there currently like anybody in the
00:46:12McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisontalking stage with you right now no I've gone on a couple of dates uh first dates but I haven't kissed anyone uh there just wasn't a connection and I kind of have non-negotiables
00:46:22McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonso what are those uh one of my non-negotiables is so I'm Christian well kind of I don't go to church but I do believe in Jesus
00:46:33McKenna/Haley/Sage/MadisonChrist and the Bible not to be preachy um but whoever I'm with they have to believe in something I can't be with somebody that doesn't believe in anyone anything uh I don't mind your god um but
00:46:46McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonyou have to believe in something because people that don't believe in anything have noticed don't have a lot of ambition also a non-negotiable is purpose I do believe that that people
00:46:56McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonshould have a purpose and have a goal they want to get to in life U where they want to be so I don't really think a relationship like a girl should be a man's
00:47:07McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonpriority um so I want to kind of know their priorities not their top priority their top priority wait are you waiting until marriage no to have sex okay um
00:47:21Brian Atlasso you're Christian but you're open to dating anyone so as long as they believe in a God doesn't matter which God just a god well it's kind of more than that
00:47:34Brian Atlasit's I would prefer well I know that I know you have other standards but specifically on that well on that like I would prefer them to believe in Jesus Christ and my god well You' prefer them to believe in Jesus Christ but you said
00:47:45Brian Atlasnon-negotiable was they have to believe in something yes um what about Shiva sh I think that's the Indian wait sh hind
00:47:56McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonshe has a lot of six arms and she's a goddess of war or something I think I'm not an expert in I've honestly yeah that's Hindu I've never you date a I've
00:48:09McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonnever dated somebody that believed in Hinduism um when I was a kid my dad took us to it was kind of what about Zeus I have met people that believe in that like the somebody who believes in any of
00:48:20McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonthe Greek how or Roman gods well so it kind of depends on how that place Parton to your life and if it's just something you say oh yeah I believe in this but you don't actually follow its values or
00:48:31McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonits teachings my dad I grew up going to different temples and churches it was kind of despite my mom but we benefit off of it we learned a lot about Buddhism um we learned a little bit
00:48:43McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonabout Hinduism we learned about Muslim cultur and beliefs so um I'm just not I'm not out here telling people what God
00:48:53Brian Atlasto believe in okay so when it comes to how um the quickness with which you'd like to get intimate with somebody hook up with them what do we what do we talking
00:49:05McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonhere it genuinely depends on the connection and our intentions and if they align I'm not into hookup culture I'm not into sleeping with somebody just
00:49:16McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonjust to sleep with them oh it's probably fine um kind of feels like have you have you ever have I ever I've never really been into hookup culture um when I was
00:49:28McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonyounger I've been manipulated um and kind of like deceived but I play a part into that um but I've never been a fan of hookup culture I don't go out much I've never left a bar
00:49:40Jamiewith a man and hooked up or woken up next to somebody in a bed and not know who it was okay what about you um so just like her answer I definitely think it um depends on the
00:49:53Jamieconnection that you have with the person maybe like I feel like if I've known someone in the past or previously knew them and then started dating them maybe that would be something that would happen a little bit quicker um if it's
00:50:04Jamielike a complete stranger then it's definitely going to be a while because um I let's say are you have you ever been on a dating app yeah let's say you met a guy on dating app never met him before oh yeah that's going to be a
00:50:15Jamiewhile because um I was saying this on my intake questions psychology say that you can only hide yourself for about 3 months but these [ __ ] are evolving
00:50:25Jamieokay they hide themselves and their true character for a year six months two years so especially if you don't know that person especially me having children um if I don't know someone it's
00:50:37Jamiedefinitely going to be a long time before I introduce them to like my body or my personal self or like let alone my children when you say long time what's a long time 3 months four months mon yeah
00:50:48Brian Atlasdepends on so we're just talking about sex right yeah okay so if I did not know that person probably about three months I see okay all right
00:50:59Kiarauh okay three months all right what about you sorry what was a question bro we talked about it we keep
00:51:09Brian Atlasforgetting yeah how long should you wait oh he already asked me that the oh did you already answer yeah remember I said like she the first one oh yeah and then I went around the table yeah yeah so
00:51:20Brian Atlaswhat was your answer it was um like about to 10 10 Dates months endes oh I see and this stemms from your situationship with two guys okay um got
00:51:32Audi/Mickit okay uh what about you people have had sexual and romantic relationships without all these rules since the beginning of time but I'll say
00:51:43Audi/Mickthe thing that matters is if you're comfortable with someone and um what type of relationship are you looking for if you're looking to get to know a person for real I would say you're not going to just jump right for sex but if you do really care for for a person you
00:51:56Brian Atlasshould probably should be sexually attracted to them as well okay so I mean the reason I wanted to
00:52:03Brian Atlasjust go around the table on that is uh if I was dating you and you said okay Brian we have to go on 10 dat I mean I know you wouldn't articulate it this way
00:52:15Brian Atlasbut okay we're going to go on 10 Dates I like to wait two months but in that time period if I knew that you were [ __ ] two other guys you're not the type of
00:52:24Brian Atlasgirl that I would wait to have sex with I'll wait I would maybe me personally some guys are more cool with waiting me personally I don't really believe in in waiting I'm not in but I'm not interested in just like one night stands
00:52:37Brian AtlasI'm not interested in sport [ __ ] I'm not interested in sleeping with a lot of women but I also don't believe in like waiting long periods of time
00:52:45Brian Atlasum so I mean just even the waiting thing would be a big nogo for me but waiting and while I'm dating you doing romantic things take you on dates buying you
00:52:57Brian Atlasflowers whatever it is you're sleeping with two other men I'm out most men are probably out too so um but I don't see why you would make
00:53:10Brian Atlaswhy would you make a guy wait while you're [ __ ] two other men that's what I don't get I get it if you're like that's your standard okay I I see one guy at a time I like to wait I like to
00:53:21Brian Atlasactually feel it out boom boom boom actually we reacted to Nick if you can find uh there was this Reddit post that we reacted to and maybe we can just do it again um do you know what I'm talking
00:53:32Brian Atlasabout Nick it was two what's that I don't think it's pulled up on the tabs I think it was uh I'm trying to think what it was uh
00:53:44Brian Atlasyou it was a Reddit post should I go through history or files I have no idea where it is it was uh me a it might be in the Dropbox uh hold up sorry I'm
00:53:56Brian Atlastrying to see if I put it in the drop boox no I don't think it's in the Dropbox it was the Reddit post it was the girl who was dating a guy for a
00:54:07Brian Atlasmonth or two and you're not going to find you're not going to find it by Google cuz she deleted it from Reddit uh I might have emailed it uh do
00:54:20Brian Atlasyou do you at least remember though what I'm talking about no it was the the girl who made a Reddit post and she was like Hey so I've been dating this guy for 2 months I really like him but I'm like
00:54:31Brian Atlascurrently [ __ ] I have a Friends with Benefits up I made a mistake and she was asking like if you can try to find that one um okay hold on uh we have here I'll just pull this
00:54:42TTS Readerup costin donated $17 y thank you Brian thanks for making the connection happy Halloween everyone
00:54:51Brian Atlasthank you thank you sir uh all right and then let's see here yeah do you have it or I'm looking for
00:55:02TTS Readerit I think another TT we got another TTS coming up here in just a sec uh [ __ ] hold on one sec one sec guys while Nick finds out seven deadly simps
00:55:14TTS Readerdonated $100 thank you man my sprinkler goes like
00:55:23TTS Readerthis comes back like question for the ladies would you rather have a husband or your Instagram
00:55:35McKenna/Haley/Sage/Madisonhusband um husband husband so you have to delete your Instagram for your hus husband that would kind of suck I have a 100