Hoe Math DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! | Dating Talk #113

Date: 2023-10-30
Duration: 5h 12m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Anette(guest)
SPEAKER_03Sammy Joe(guest)
SPEAKER_04Anya(guest)
SPEAKER_05Kayden(guest)
SPEAKER_06Jake (Rattlesnake TV)(guest)
SPEAKER_07HTH (Hoe Math)(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Andrew Tate (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_11Laura(guest)
SPEAKER_12Angela(guest)
SPEAKER_13Mars Noir(guest)

Key Moments

00:00:04
IntroBrian Atlas opens show: "I am your host Brian Atlas"

welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... I am your host Brian Atlas

00:02:33
IntroAll guests introduce themselves: Sammy Joe (IFBB bikini pro, married), Mars Noir (25, OF), Kayden (24, bartender/OF), Laura (35, IFBB bikini pro/coach), Anya (18, Twitch/Christian), Angela (31, automotive), Anette (29, Hungarian nanny), Jake (Rattlesnake TV, Australian), HTH Hoe Math (anonymous video-in guest)
00:04:28
IntroHTH introduces himself as first ever video-in guest: "I am known as Hass" — keeps face and name hidden

hello um I am known as Hass I'll keep my name quiet for the moment and my face

00:32:00
Key MomentHTH tells story of girl who lived in his walk-in closet doing prostitution on Backpage — argues sex work creates emotional connection even transactionally

I lived with a girl once... she was doing prostitution on back page... making it a transaction does not separate the emotional component from it

00:52:33
QuoteHTH explains "alpha widow" concept: women get stuck on their highest setting and compare future men to their best past partner

women kind of get stuck on your highest setting and if you've been with a guy who has a trait that we can't keep up with then you're going to be thinking about that guy forever

00:59:00
Key MomentJake says Mars will always get bored with men because her laundry list keeps growing after too many experiences

when you have those certain life experiences... it affects your relationships down the line

01:31:00
QuoteAndrew Tate clip: "it's innocence that men find appealing... we want to be the female's portal to the world"

it's innocence that men find appealing... if I meet a woman... the first jet you get on will be mine

02:01:05
ControversyKayden reveals her taboo opinion: "cheating is inevitable and unavoidable 90% of the time and that's okay"

my biggest hot take cheating is inevitable and unavoidable 90% of the time

02:08:40
Key MomentBrian responds to Kayden's cheating take: if your girlfriend cheats on you, "you're dead man walking, if you have any dignity you walk and you never look back"

my advice to men if your girl cheats on you that's a WAP the relationship is over

02:41:00
Key MomentKayden reveals her situationship partner films and helps manage her OnlyFans: "he's not getting paid yet... he wants me to have all the money"

he participates in the only fans he manes the only fans

02:52:00
QuoteJake coins "alpha widowed" for Kayden: NFL/baseball player sex means future Kevin from accounting can't compare

there's a thing called being Alpha widowed... once a girl has had a certain standard of man whether it be sexual partner or a relationship it's burned into her brain

03:13:15
ControversyMars reveals she kissed a guy at a bar in Thailand then left to flirt with other men while he watched

you kissed him at the bar that you wanted to go and flirt with the other men at

04:01:11
Key MomentBrian reads Stiffler chat asking guests to rate their looks 1-10; all rate themselves 6-8

ask everyone to write their looks on scale of 1 to 10 okay go

04:19:04
TopicHTH wraps up video-in segment, recommends his YouTube video "Zones" (23 min) about male/female values

I've got a 23 minute video on this about this on YouTube called zones

04:41:30
ControversyChat questions if Laura is a man because she is tall and muscular; Laura clarifies she is a woman who works out

people will be like are you a man and I'm just I'm tall and I work out

04:48:25
QuoteBrian says most men don't want to date sex workers: "it's not I don't need a study to tell you that the sky is blue"

most men don't want to date sex workers... I don't need a study we could do a study

04:56:31
Key MomentBody count round: Sammy 9, Anya 0 (virgin), Angela 9, Anette ~9, Kayden ~20-something, Laura <10, Mars ~7 (guessed by Brian)

what's everyone's body count... nine nine... I literally don't know it's like 20 something

05:09:00
QuoteClosing: Brian thanks panel; notes Jake was "a great voice of reason"; announces Tuesday Halloween show

rock and roll man well hey thank you for joining us uh guys go check out HTH on YouTube Tik Tok

Topics Discussed

00:00:04
Guest introductions and relationship status round

All guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation. Brian goes around table asking relationship status, longest relationship, how long single. Notable: Kayden in 4-year situationship; Anette just cancelled engagement; HTH voluntarily celibate; Mars single 3 years.

00:12:50
OnlyFans and sex work debate

Extended multi-round debate on OnlyFans, sex work ethics, soul-selling, men's addiction to porn, spreading love vs. spreading lust, Kayden's situationship and OF business partnership with ex. HTH shares story of girl who lived in his closet doing backpage prostitution. Jake argues OF fuels addiction, not love. Mars defends as kink and valid transaction.

01:24:39
Andrew Tate clip: male innocence and travel as red flag

Video clip of Andrew Tate arguing men want to be a woman's portal to the world; traveling implies sexual history; innocence is what men find attractive. Panel reaction: Jake strongly agrees; Mars/Laura push back on nuance; Anette agrees man should open world to partner.

01:31:00
Body count and "hoe math" discussion

Brian asks what % of men women find attractive. Responses: Sammy 60% on apps; Mars 50-60% on apps; Laura 60-80% at Notre Dame; Anya 10% in person; Angela under 5%; Anette 1%. Shows hypergamy map illustration. Discussion on women only chasing top men.

01:33:00
HTH Hoe Math video-in segment: hypergamy and attraction dynamics

First-ever video-in guest on show. HTH presents drawn illustrations: hypergamy map showing women only attracted to top men; male visibility/invisibility concept; women getting stuck on highest setting (alpha-widow). Discussion on "zones" video on YouTube. Technical difficulties with delay.

01:59:30
Kayden pre-show notes: breakup story, D1 athletes, sugar daddy, only fans

Brian reads Kayden's submitted notes. Story of high school sweetheart (military, bought ring, she cheated with 3 guys, dramatic breakup by phone). D1 athletes (MLB, NFL player), trappers (drug dealers), sugar daddies. Kayden's taboo opinion: cheating is inevitable 90% of the time. Panel debate on cheating, monogamy, open relationships.

03:06:00
Mars pre-show notes: non-traditional dating, boredom after 2 weeks, Twitter reactions

Brian reads Mars's submitted notes about non-traditional dating philosophy, not believing in ownership in relationships, supporting each other in all life experiences. Discussion of Mars's tweet "why do all boys get so boring after like 2 weeks." Story of kissing guy at bar in Thailand then leaving to flirt with other men. ~20-30 first dates in 2023.

04:08:15
Self-ratings (looks 1-10)

Stiffler chat donation asks everyone to rate themselves 1-10. Anya: 7-8; various others: 7-7.5; Mars: 6-6.5; Angela: 7; Laura: 7.5. Chat rates Laura 8.54/10.

04:11:01
Brian's partner preferences

Brian lists what he looks for: slight preference for white/Asian women, petite/short, dark hair, no plastic surgery (near deal-breaker), introverted/quiet/modest/nerdy, no kids (90% deal-breaker), age 18-45, doesn't party/drink/drugs, low body count, brings peace. Career doesn't matter.

04:24:21
Sugar daddy discussion

Brian asks who has had a sugar daddy. Kayden: yes (Seeking Arrangements, age 19, ~5 meetups at $200 each, coffee and his house, kissed but did not have sex). Mars: sometimes feels like sugar mama in her relationships. Discussion on why sugar daddies exist (lonely, companionship).

04:25:00
Green flag hobbies and partner preferences roundtable

Chat asks about green flag hobbies for men. Women cite: gaming if managed, working on cars, being active, gym, carpentry, cooking, loves God, respects parents, personal finance, reading. For women: reading, studying, household activities. Laura on HRT (testosterone) revealed; chat questions if she is a man.

04:56:31
Body count round and closing discussion

Brian asks everyone's body count. Sammy: 9; Anya: 0 (virgin); Angela: 9; Anette: ~9; Kayden: ~20-something; Laura: less than 10; Mars: ~7 (guessed); Brian: won't say. Discussion on whether body count matters. Anette says before marriage count should be zero.

Transcript

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02:51:07
Mars Noirof the car and he's like Brian I saved your life oh my God so he's he will protect you that is so hot and I BL believed every word what RAC trck were you atal his RAC yeah
02:51:20
Brian Atlaslike I've already been told I need savings soit my D I want to come to your RAC we have a chat here from Hector Rodriguez
02:51:29
Brian Atlasshe didn't she didn't she opened her legs for a whole football team from Hector Rodriguez I think this might be directed at you for sure was it the
02:51:40
Kaydenwhole football team confirm or deny deny definitely not the whole football team whole baseball team oh wait wait it
02:51:51
Brian Atlaswasn't for the whole football team wait was it a quarter no much less it was a select few a select few yeah all right rock and
02:52:00
Brian Atlasroll like the select team my girlfriend is a Dancer plus insta model and I'm highly educated professional 16-year
02:52:09
Brian Atlaseducation post High School 800k annual salary 10 plus year age Gap I knew from beginning thinking about finding more traditional female vers
02:52:21
Brian Atlasasking her to be with me SL stopping thoughts so he is dating a uh dancer which I assume means stripper plus insta
02:52:31
Brian Atlasmodel um this guy's making bank 800k congrats dude that's insane your 10 years her senior uh my dude you make 100K 800k can
02:52:44
Brian Atlasyou give give us some more details about like are are you uh are you in the US first off I I'm assuming you are um uh how tall are you are you a gigachad are you good-looking are you in
02:52:56
Brian Atlasgood shape should find a more traditional woman or he should stay with but I want some more details I want some more details in any case bro you're you're a very high earner you can get you don't need a date no offense I mean
02:53:09
Sammy JoeI mean I would say if he's already with her and he knew from the beginning then that wasn't a deterring factor for him to be with her regardless of his status so that means he likes her as a person and whether they should proceed forward
02:53:21
Sammy Joewith their life and if he should be with her and stop what she's doing he should break up should break up that means that he needs to know if her goals align with his why is she but wait how long have
02:53:34
Brian Atlasyou been dating her too because I mean bro you make a lot of money you could probably I don't know how long you've been dating he says girlfriend is a Dancer my dude you're very high earner just you can you you don't need a 16
02:53:46
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)year education sounds like it's some sort of stem field or something like that and then once he got out maybe sounds like he was uh suck it in a little bit I'm also wondering what he did at the dance club I mean why did he
02:53:57
Brian Atlasgo there oh he doesn't say he met her there what so cam can you tell us uh let's see oh unfortunately he sent this like 30 minutes ago so I don't know if he's
02:54:09
Brian Atlasstill in the chat but where did you meet her uh what else uh some stats on you how long have you guys been together but uh yeah how long that's a good one do you have aligning goals and values well
02:54:22
Anettethen that's the thing his values might have changed in the anybody here stripped anybody danced just you in the beginning have had some type
02:54:33
Anetteof like feeling towards it and then maybe as he was making more money or progressing in his career he was like oh maybe this isn't really what I want so that's why I think oh no absolutely people's people's ideologies and
02:54:46
Brian Atlasthoughts can change on a situation it's how you feel in that moment whether you should progress forward or not yeah yeah I have a question for you Anya or did you it sounded like you're about to say something oh okay so um you know your
02:54:58
Brian Atlasstandard is you're Conservative Christian you're waiting until marriage um my question for you is of your female friends who maybe aren't religious or conservative or Christian or maybe who are um do do you know any girls who like
02:55:12
Anyamaybe you're friends with who have high body counts who are promiscuous I have I have one friend but I wouldn't consider a really high body count but she does like post herself seductively on the internet okay and do
02:55:24
Brian Atlasthings like that but most of my friends are Conservative Christian okay got it well I want to open this up to the whole panel so not you but of your female
02:55:34
Brian Atlasfriends if you maybe you can think of one or a couple um oh here let me me camage uh 5'11 yeah I thought he was I fig figured he'd be a doctor sub specialist
02:55:46
Brian Atlasphysician I think I'm a 7 out of 10 she's 1210 to me two Monon relationship she's a 1210 you're not into it for you like no way you're
02:55:57
Sammy Joequestioning it that's your answer that's true he's questioning whether or not he wants to be with her if he has to ask a panel of strangers whether he should be with someone or not then he shouldn't be with that
02:56:07
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)person regardless regardless of her profession or anything a sub specialist physician he'd be a very very hardworking guy I can't imagine he'd get out too much and then the excitement of a girl like that I reckon can be so
02:56:20
Brian Atlasalluring that it's probably captured his imagination yeah so yeah that's fair you're allowed to have standards dude um you're you have a very high
02:56:30
TTS Readerstatus job make a lot of money you can iot Sports donated thank you Brian don't you put that evil on me even if I were single
02:56:41
TTS Readerand I am happily married 17 years there is only so much charity in my heart I was curious how these high maintenance girls would view living simply oh
02:56:51
Anettethat's me that's a very assumptious D would view living simply so now when someone does only fans they become high maintenance no because they agreed that they would go live in the
02:57:03
Anettemiddle of nowhere yeah that's what I'm saying he said was just wondering if High m girls but that was that's I'm saying he's saying you guys wouldn't be willing to live simply but you guys
02:57:16
Brian Atlasyo camage uh one last thing camage uh how did you meet her that's the other thing I was curious about how did you meet her because at the club did you
02:57:25
Brian Atlasmeet on a dating app did you meet at the hospital did she break a her ankle on Pole or something I don't know she fell too I the SE and the physical attraction
02:57:37
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)must be can be so overpowering sometimes that guys just get lost they get BL are there no red flags like I just I've met
02:57:47
Mars Noirstrippers you know what I mean yeah totally you know strippers yeah they be crazy sonra it's a mixed
02:57:57
Brian Atlasbag over there in the clubs it takes a personality you know I don't so I feel you I wonder is there like what did like
02:58:08
Brian Atlason the totem pole like you have like street walker and then you have P star and then you have only fans girl and
02:58:17
Brian Atlasthen you have stripper and then you have like feet pick sender like where like do do strippers look down on on porn stars and do porn
02:58:29
Brian Atlasstars look down on only fans girls and do do sex worker like ho literal hoes look down on porn stars I think there's I don't know some strippers look down on
02:58:42
Mars Noironly F girls cuz they're like I'm just dancing and then some only fans girls look down on strippers cuz they're like well you're in person let people touch you smart one would have the
02:58:54
Brian Atlashocki there really is one crazy it's crazy you're in the IND you're in the industry like we're in the cam H also cam send me send me a DM on Instagram
02:59:03
Brian Atlasout whatever send me a DM on Instagram cam um let's see okay we oh I was bringing it to you oh yeah so of your female friends do you know any girls who
02:59:14
Sammy Joehave really high body counts and if so how high yes but I I wouldn't say that I know what the number is R range range
02:59:26
Sammy Joemaybe like 15 that's high that's not that's that's what I'm saying like I don't not ideal but I mean I'm sorry you expecting me
02:59:38
Sammy Joesay like 300 well that's what I'm I mean I like most of my most of my friends are very like conservative married
02:59:49
Mars Noirchildren families like I don't really have sure what about you what about you I know a couple triple digits Yeah couple triple digit ladies
02:59:59
Mars Noircouple triple digit ladies body count triple crazy triple triple digit body counts okay that's a lot of like dedicated time do you have to be like
03:00:09
Brian Atlasthose are the girls talking about like love sex all they want is sex that's addiction man addiction at that point yeah I'll do I'll do some math SE
03:00:19
Kaydenmotiv people uh what about you yeah like maybe some girls in college or something well currently yeah like I think I have
03:00:29
Kaydena friend with like an 80 body count 80 yeah 80 80 oh my God 80 oh my God oh God I've been living in Valley too long what
03:00:40
Brian Atlasabout you question oh any friends of yours that you know that like you know they have high body counts maybe they told you or if so what what is it probably not no there's there's girls in
03:00:52
Lauraour industry and like bikini pros and people in the fitness industry that do only fans question are you Natty you guys Natty I'm on I'm on HRT so no are you Natty
03:01:04
Brian Atlasyes it's impressive nice I have a question okay so I've heard like if a
03:01:15
Brian Atlasguy either say it if you're sing the D okay and you consume the product of sing the D that's
03:01:28
Brian Atlaslike there's minimal amounts of protein in it testosterone's in there too I've also heard with sex too if a guy blasts inside it actually ele it boosts women's
03:01:37
Brian Atlasmood because the the seed so you're promoting sex because you want people to be in good wait what I don't have sex sex is fine I'm just as
03:01:48
Brian Atlasbodybuilders do you like do you want that do I consume extra you want that extra nut I don't track it in my fitness pal if you're asking do you know what I mean it's not Incorporated in my
03:02:01
Brian Atlasmacronutrients for the day cuz like I feel like it would help with the bodybuilding if you're just like letting dudes blast you know what I mean is that sorry is that is that too graphic is that too graphic I'm sorry I'm it's okay
03:02:13
Laurait's okay I'm sorry it's okay but I appreciate I appreciate where your heads at Brian you know trying to help us with our bodybuilding yeah like cuz I'm an expert yeah um okay so let's see uh how did I
03:02:24
Angelaget there oh body count I don't really have any friends with high body counts no oh we we asked you what about you no we say in Hungary you get to know
03:02:33
Brian AtlasBird by their feather and the person by their friend so no words okay uh good times good times we have Mars
03:02:44
Brian Atlashey are you going off like my list yeah this is my list now you said something about open dating you wanted to talk about open dating what do you mean by
03:02:54
Mars Noirthat um I think I kind of explained it more in my um did we already talk about it kind of what did you not really kind of just like the
03:03:05
Brian Atlasum like individualism okay yeah I'll I'll read it kind you also said autonomy in relationships did I don't know if you went over that in your further notes when you say
03:03:16
Mars Noirautonomy and relationships what does what do you mean two separate people like with their own lives that come together for a greater good whether it's family or building a
03:03:28
Mars Noirlife together and yeah not like you control each other in like the way of like what you expect from your partner and what feels right to you and what feels right to them and you give and take because that's what a
03:03:40
Mars Noirgood relationship is about but but I don't think like controlling if your girlfriend wants to go to Thailand for a couple months like make sense if you if you trust my girlfriend wants to go to Thailand for why would you be with
03:03:52
Mars Noirsomeone that you don't trust enough to even like leave your sight for a while there's not a chance why should I cuz there's a whole world there's so much like why yeah but why can't you discover I personally would want my
03:04:03
Sammy Joesignificant other to come with me and experience not every to come with you well they could but like it's also great to like grow on your own for months though see this is the this is the yeah
03:04:15
Mars NoirI want to go to like a retreat or something and it was like let's say like a monthlong silent retreat in Thailand or something that would be wonderful to do by myself or with my partner and so we can trade off dping expi honestly
03:04:27
Brian Atlasstraight away not my first one I'm breaking up with you no wait what my first one no just like oh you want to go
03:04:35
Mars Noirto Thailand for a month to do a tantra Retreat or some why probably partner of experiences if I was dating anyone I would trust that you're going
03:04:46
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)to be with this is the thing okay bye peace out peace out peace out it's a for me you too homie oh rip RP in the chat
03:04:57
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)boys um difference and values just different preferences definitely different pre preferences different yeah I mean it's just different values like we said like there's there's trade-offs in life and one of the trade-offs that
03:05:09
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)you have to make as a girl like like we said before if it is something that you value to have a long-term relationship with a guy who has any sort of self resect one of the things that you will not be doing is saying I want to go to
03:05:21
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)Thailand for a month because that that guy will just say uh okay see you later when you get back you will be single who are you dating I would never ever even like go on a second date with someone
03:05:33
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)that was like that you haven't had a relationship for more than 2 weeks so that's for 3 and a half years a year and two years look it I'm just telling you the reality of how guys think here and
03:05:46
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)in terms of like a girl wanting to go away by herself to Thailand for a month guys are just not going to put up with that and you can what are you scared of me someone let's have a relationship
03:05:57
Mars Noirconversation let's have a conversation where like I respect you and I love you and my relationship with you is more important than bodies and people like
03:06:07
Mars Noirthat this I'm to you can live in you can live in that world isn't my relationship how in love it's not my entire world in reality guys know what happens you come
03:06:19
Lauratogether and not make your partner like your living breathing organ like well what type of what type of relationship are you in if you don't want to see your partner for one to two months at a time yeah a healthy in my opinion cuz if you're going to be together for the rest
03:06:32
Mars Noirof vation for one to two months and not see your partner there's years we have long lives so I go a month being enjoying my
03:06:42
Mars Noirlife that's a long that's a long in a relationship and be around them 24/7 for the rest of your life if I'm in a relationship I want to see my partner more often than I'm not here but I'm she
03:06:55
Sammy Joelike I I totally get like I do understand what you're saying and that's where my open-mindedness comes in and like I know that there are people out there that exist that have that view but like for me I choose a partner that I
03:07:06
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)would like to see every single day for the rest of my life and I would love to travel World your your marri so you you can speak to that not you're 25 and like
03:07:17
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)I said before in 10 years time like right now you're young you're gorgeous you're 25 you're getting all of this male attention it's fantastic in 10 years time if you're 35 and you're buying your own drinks at the bar it's going to be very different you're going
03:07:30
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)to have a very different attitude towards this and this is the thing that girls don't get told guys we don't really need to get told because the world tells us every single day our flaws girls you can kind of just float
03:07:42
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)about and say yeah the world doesn't tell girls every day their flaws no when it comes to dating no you don't cuz you actually don't know anything about like what men want so it's manifestly true in you such a harsh statement I don't know anything about what men want you you
03:07:54
Mars Noirkind of like it's unfortun you know they want sex they want body but other than that he's a straight shooter okay he's a generalizer everything you say I like
03:08:04
Mars Noiryou but I was like come on I like he he really was with the thing is I think I could save you honestly I think the thing the reason why I think I no no
03:08:17
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)I'll say what I want the reason why I think that is because like you're I think you're actually a really nice girl you got a lot to give got a lot of love to give and if you gave that to the
03:08:26
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)right place it would be very powerful and this is what I always say to don't give me the violin this is what I always say to girls though if you if you if you know this stuff and if you know it young it's
03:08:38
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)a superpower you're going to have a very successful marriage one day I could be certain
03:08:47
Brian Atlasbut they just don't what they get is do whatever you want all the time with no consequences exactly word we have some more we got some some notes here from
03:08:58
Brian Atlasyou my stance on modor dating hookup culture dating apps Etc have made it so our dating pools are so much bigger than ever before Raven DT donated
03:09:08
TTS Reader$100 this is what happens when you try to detach intimacy from sex FHM interviewed four men 100 plus years old they were asked what the best vacation
03:09:20
TTS Readeris they said the destination doesn't matter it matters who you go with it's about spending it with your wife I mean
03:09:28
Brian Atlasbut I mean who you go with could be a I could go with someone dope to like Compton versus Hawai like the you know you know what I mean like Hawaii might
03:09:40
Laurabe a little nicer than Compton just saying it do people vacation in Compton is that Compton a place people vacation in have you course really really how many love
03:09:51
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)to take let's take a girls trip I will take you on the vacation to know a romantic Australians actually do do that we'll go we'll we'll like drive through
03:10:01
Laurabecause we've seen like the easy movies and stuff like that drive historical yeah I vacation well I mean Australian American culture was very novel to us like I was at a Halloween party last
03:10:15
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)night and I was like couldn't believe it cuz I was looking around like I felt like I was in a movie like a scary like scary movie or something like that yeah we just you just do things very different you in Vegas cuz I was in Vegas last night and I the same way no
03:10:27
Brian Atlasunless I can't remember a lot of scary people let's see so you think you said I think the abundance of opportunity in people to meet has made it so we don't take the time to take the people we meet
03:10:38
TTS Readeras seriously we have troubles committing donated $100 something I can speak directly to when I was racing I was gone sometimes
03:10:50
TTS Readerfor a month but I was working I missed my wife the entire time the difference with what this 304 is saying is as soon as she boards the plane her BF is
03:11:00
Mars Noirforgotten that's not what I'm saying wow oh it is it's not what I'm saying why can't I go on a trip and then call my
03:11:08
Mars Noirboyfriend and be like wow I what I'm up to to share that with them you know it's not like don't shake your head no I'm telling you how I
03:11:20
Mars Noirfeel go and experience something without my I don't want to like let them know what I'm doing doesn't make any sense yeah once again it just comes back to the fact that you just have trade-offs in life guys have trade-offs
03:11:32
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)we have to make all the time and girls have the these trade-offs and you can yeah have the it's true man great word you don't want to make the thank you grid one thank you grid one
03:11:43
Brian Atlasone where was I oh okay so we have troubles committing and long-term healthy relationships can be harder to come by because uh the dating pools are so much bigger than ever before because
03:11:54
Brian Atlasabundance of O there's an abundance of opportunity and people to meet it's made it so we don't take the time to uh take the take the time to take the people we
03:12:04
Brian Atlasmeet as seriously um trouble committing longterm what if I told you that this was only the case for the top tier of men on dating apps and
03:12:13
Mars Noirnearly all women on dating apps oh cuz are you just like assuming that people what is like top tier to you though CU it's only like money top 10% of men it could be looks it could be just but that's what that's what you
03:12:27
Brian Atlasalways kind of generalize like the top tier is just like hot and that's who the majority of women are all chasing after it's such a boring reason to chase someone it's what such a boring reason to chase somebody just cuz they're hot
03:12:40
Mars Noiryou know I mean isn't that just human nature heaven forbid lame like if a guy comes up to me at a bar and is like you're so sexy I'm just like okay like it's just such a boring way to approach
03:12:49
Mars Noirme prefer a your moon necklace do you watch Sailor Moon yeah oh I love saor what a fun conversation at least not just like what am I'm supposed to say like thanks like cool like now what do we do for I love your clavicles you've
03:13:02
Brian Atlasgot great clavicles solid clav do you know what a clavical is yes okay just just I wasn't sure I wasn't you might be like the don't talk about my classical um I know like oh look what there's just so many
03:13:14
Mars Noirmore fun ways to like flirt with people if I'm at a bar there's like live music by dancing let's get the microphones um I'm a chick you're a dude hit on me go oh I saw a video like this
03:13:26
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)on YouTube recently and it was verying for the girls okay so I'm a girl usually like how I hit on people is I'm just kind of like no but you're the dude you're the dude I'm the chick beat some
03:13:38
Mars Noirgame it's like hey Jacqueline is hard can I just describe what I think you should do this lit like if you're I can't I can't do
03:13:49
Mars Noirthis I'm not I'm not a theater kid I was in lighting NE I was on stage I can't like improv like this but they're really ready to they are really ready and I'm not ja the microphone he's like
03:14:01
Brian Atlasready you're trying to hit on my friend go he's prot bitching friends this what's up what
03:14:14
Kaydenyeah don't do this to me they do this well they did do this well oh um hi yeah I've never been in this predicament before hi you've never been in this predicament no what I think she dropped
03:14:25
Mars Noirthe role play keep going that was your line okay I for improv neither oh my what if I start crying would that be very interesting to you no
03:14:37
Mars Noirwe I probably just feel like get what kind of girl am I talking to cuz if it was me as a man talking to a girl they would would be like a think you're overthinking what I
03:14:48
Sammy Joedo I would say I think you would like that women respond to like you complimenting their their Vibe or what sorry what yeah what like their Vibe or
03:15:01
Sammy Joecomplimenting them on something that they're wearing like actually starting a conversation instead of immediately going for having a purpose to like come up to them going away Sammy Joe we're
03:15:12
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)ready go for it have you seen Sally I'm not but I guess I'm about to be better me Sally like Bing your bed at friends oh my god do you want to go to the bathroom hey ladies are you uh having a
03:15:23
Sammy Joegood night tonight yeah you guys look great tonight thank you yeah awesome so what what are you guys into what brings you guys out just hanging out dance nice are you guys celebrating anything girls
03:15:35
Sammy Joenight nice yeah do you guys do this often huh do you guys do girls night often oh you know am I wait what's the what's Theo am I just trying to get to know you or like try smash trying to
03:15:47
Sammy Joesmash trying to smash oh well if you guys are on a girl night then you're automatically smashing no we no we're down we're down we're down to smash but only with like a so do you so do you guys like no it can't be met to continue
03:15:59
Sammy Joethe role play you can't interrupt the role play okay okay do you come here do we your drinks look a little empty like you guys want to know drink awesome why don't you come with me to the bar so
03:16:11
Sammy Joethat you guys can see me ordering the drinks it's a little bit creepy to be honest does sound creepy you would rather me bring you a drink without you seeing it being made that's dangerous no I think this guy a bit aggressive that
03:16:22
Sammy Joeis so dangerous never been girls before these guys have no experience being a woman let's head over to the bar let's head over to the bar and get a
03:16:32
Brian Atlasdrink oh um this guy's pretty forceful maybe later girls we should leave them alone they don't seem like they want we we'll be
03:16:41
Sammy Joehere when come back if you're interested around T I came back I came back in that just goes to show that you guys would carry a drink from the bar to
03:16:53
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)someone without them watching no we wouldn't have offered the drink no you wouldn't have offered me a drink no you what if I start coughing really thank you I offer you some cuffs Sy I'd be
03:17:05
Sammy Joelike on you oh yeah my back pocket that was just a big fail that was you guys were really poor girl act how honestly we gave you a lot we gave you a
03:17:17
Mars Noirlot yeah me I've had a lot worse treatment than that they did you could it seems like girls were like obviously not interested so if I was the guy I would have instantly been like okay have a good night yeah but you got to break
03:17:28
Sammy Joethrough the shell a little bit but if you're if you are a girl that is out on a girl's night down to go home with someone you're not going to have
03:17:39
Mars Noirthat front facade yeah why do you have a show I don't have a shell a what you call it a shell you got to break through the shell like if you have an M it like if I see a guy I the name down I'm like all right he's got like funky guard
03:17:51
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)normally I won't just approach girls like that who I haven't had any if because normally girls will put themselves in your space like if you're near them at the bar and they like look Clos to you if they like give you the eyes a little bit they give you signals
03:18:03
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)if they've given you no signals then normally like they'll stay way away from you even in the gym if they come near you and stuff like they want you just know they want you to we have a Twitter post of yours oh no don't do that if
03:18:14
Brian Atlasyou're able to pull it up Nick uh did I wait scroll up Nick scroll up oh wow did I write this why do all boys get so boring after like two weeks
03:18:27
Brian Atlaswhy do they do that I'm adding to the lore of that joke you know oh Nick did we close out her other tweet about the at the club talking to other people's oh
03:18:38
Mars Noirmy God there's a lot of bad or non-traditional have bar how do I tell men I'm I think you
03:18:47
Brian Atlasmeant flirting with right flinging I say flinging oh which means flirting right yeah okay at the bar that I want to go explore the room and flirt with strangers a little and I'll BRB I stand
03:18:59
Brian Atlasby this truthfully like if I was trying to talk to a girl in the bar I mean obviously we're not dating you're not committed to me but if like I was talking to you and then I see you like you want to leave to talk to other men
03:19:11
Anettelike that's a WP not we have established that we would not work this is just like no but I'm saying in general like again that's a cake and eat it to moment like you want everything else and then you then you're
03:19:24
Anetteoh sorry uh it's a cake and Eed to moment it's it's you want that guy but you want that guy to be okay with you going around I don't really want him to be okay with it if he's not okay with it and I mention it to him and he's like oh
03:19:36
Mars Noirnot really my vibe I'll be like okay why would you if you're I'm want to go though yeah why would I gu be okay cuz I went to I was in Asia and I went to this like bar with this guy and he was just
03:19:48
Mars Noirlike really all over me and I wasn't feeling him that hard and so I was like okay I want to like enjoy this party and meet other people I don't want to be like attached at the hip to this person I don't really know that well you know like we're not that close we're not
03:20:00
Mars Noirflinging like that so like I'm going to go look around have fun for a while talk to some people get a drink you know did
03:20:10
Mars Noiryou show up with him yeah wait you went to the bar with him mhm what was the context um there was like it's like an island that you can get to like each
03:20:22
Mars Noirside by like in like 8 minutes in Thailand kofifi um kot yeah and so you just like R the same people all the time so like I don't really like know him like that was it a date did you guys organize to go to the bar
03:20:35
Mars Noirtogether I mean we organized to go to the bar together I don't know if I would wait but you hold on but wait wait it didn't feel like date cuz obviously it's just like some traveling wants to hang out with a hot girl you meet how did you
03:20:46
Mars Noirmeet him I think I met him on the beach cuz I would go to this beach bar all the time and I just hang out with the bartender there so it wasn't a dating app it was
03:20:56
Brian Atlasyou met him on the beach for and he asked it was was the subtext kind of he was romantically interested in you oh for sure have you guys already hooked up no we're kissing wait hold on you'd
03:21:09
Brian Atlasalready kissed you'd already kissed him we were kissing in the bar okay so was this before was this you kissed him wait you kissed him and then you wanted to go flirt with other men yes
03:21:22
Mars Noiryou kissed him at the bar that you wanted to go and flirt with the other men at well one yeah cuz like I was just realizing through that hangout that I was just not feeling this guy as much as he was
03:21:35
Mars Noirfeeling like he was like attaching at the hips follow me around and like we were like a huge group of our friends too from that Island just went aligning and the energy and The Vibes and you wanted to just sort of be energy and The Vibes but when you that happened did you
03:21:47
Anetteestablish that you were no longer interested and that you were going to go talk other people that's what that post is about how do I mention to the guy that I'm flinging with that I'm going did you I'm asking but did you I a great communic flinging I thought you You
03:21:59
Brian Atlasmisspelled like you were flirting but this was a fling you were flinging it a fling I was flinging had you but you said you hadn't hooked up with him yet no other than just kissing in the bar that to be honest that seems a little bit
03:22:10
Mars Noirmalicious oh well oh what do you have to say about that huh I mean that's why I try to have good communication like that cuz like that might be hurtful because I have
03:22:22
Mars Noirthese intentions for myself in my night but I try to as quickly as I can figure out that I feel that way like oh this guy was cute and we were having fun at that bar this morning but now that we're out here I'm not feeling it I'm going to
03:22:34
Mars Noirmove on and I'm going to tell him that I'm not going to like just leave him and be like you and if you want to be that's what you did though right I mean what should I just like never like ghost him you know you have to I think you
03:22:48
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)probably should have I think you probably should have been like I'm just going to go back home thanks with I've had a good night but I'm not feeling so well or something like that and just maybe leave the bar rather than just like him watching you going we're out with a group of friends sounds like
03:23:00
Mars Noiryou're trying to Insight a little bit of jealousy maybe well I hope not but I guess people are more jealous than I am and so I can admit maybe I can unintentionally hurt people people's feelings and the way that I interact
03:23:13
Brian Atlaswith the world if I just made out with a girl and I saw her go off and flirt with a bunch of other dudes at the bar yeah I'd feel a certain type of way about that you're not my future boyfriend that
03:23:23
Mars NoirI'm not be anybody that's cool my future boyfriend we're going to go out late night as long as you're happy we're going to feel like we don't know each other I'm going to sit across the bar with my drink you're going to have a and I'm going to watch him you're going to
03:23:35
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)flirt with women you see I think it comes out of why I'm always a little bit suspicious of the of the like everything all love lovey doy you know all peace and energy and love types because at the end of the day that that that's quite
03:23:48
Mars Noirmean what you did there don't you think well I don't think any person is perfect and I think I try my best to lead seems like you kind of enjoyed it a little bit I don't enjoy hurting someone of
03:23:59
Mars Noircourse not but I do feel like maybe because I'm young I am selfish and I will recognize that and so what I wanted to do that night was in the moment more
03:24:10
Mars Noirimportant than than maybe being like I'll go home and not hurt this person did I set out to hurt them no I don't think a lot of people more interesting question at what point did you lose your respect cuz there's there's a moment
03:24:21
Mars Noirthere there's I can tell that there's an ick moment there what was it did I lose he lose my respect yeah yeah he lost your respect at some point oh I really
03:24:29
Mars Noirdon't like when guys lead primarily with sex and so it was very physical and I wanted cuz like I a sexual person and
03:24:39
Mars NoirI'm happy to have sex and I also value people that will like kind of do more of that fun dance of like getting to know each other see how we you want a little bit more mystery he
03:24:51
Mars Noirkilled the mystery straight away you had nothing to long for anymore so not mystery again like that's exactly the opposite of what I want I want more genuine human connection and I felt it was a little bit just to like I'm on a
03:25:02
Mars Noirtrip you're hot I'm hot let's do this and I'm like that's not what I'm looking for were you were you a little bit resentful of what were you looking for though there's fun little like baled up
03:25:14
Mars Noirmoments of human connection where I'm like wow you are such a cool person and I really enjoy company and this is what a great night we're having peace in love
03:25:24
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)and Kumbaya but no sex okay you're like wait you're doing a bit can you your mic there's a there's a what I'm trying to get at though is there's a there's a point where this guy's lost your respect I don't care and then exactly you don't
03:25:36
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)care and then you've gone and like done this and it seems like there was a moment where you kind of were a little bit resentful of him and he wanted to he was all over she said he was too sex forward he was to sex was too one track
03:25:47
Mars Noirminded I don't want to you or hang out with you anymore because this is not what I'm looking for peace love have a good night I'm not resentful but was he touching you was he making out with you too aggressively was you can just tell like you're a woman you know when like
03:25:59
Brian Atlasyou're on a DAT with I'm so confused here's here's what I'm confused about in the context of you traveling what exactly like what is on the table
03:26:10
Brian Atlasbesides a short term casual sexual encounter because like if I'm traveling and I I mean if you are traveling long-term relationship is kind of off the table you're both longterm
03:26:23
Brian Atlasrelationship that I'm not looking for a long-term relationship exactly but so why would you be upset in a context where it would make sense where the only thing on the table is a short-term casual encounter that that's what he was
03:26:35
Brian Atlaspursuing because even you say you don't hold on let me finish you even said you're not looking for a long-term thing when people are traveling like if some girl is in town
03:26:44
Brian Atlashere and she's in town for a week she's probably not looking for a long-term thing because just the context makes it nearly impossible because she's going back
03:26:55
Mars Noir500 care about people like if this guy's just like trying to me he's not asking about me he's not interested in like like vibing with me outside of just like kissing like touching all this and
03:27:07
Mars Noirgirls you guys know that if you go on a date with someone where like they have different motives and what you want so I'm fine with short-term relationship shortterm but you want them to pretend like they care about you so I'm conf well they don't care about me like he
03:27:19
Mars Noirdidn't then I'm I don't want you to pretend I want to be like PE by do you want a guy to to care like to care about
03:27:28
Brian Atlaslike you want you want him to act you want him to act as if he would pursue a long-term relationship with you even though the subtext is we're not going to
03:27:38
Mars Noirbe in a long-term relationship the only thing is is SE is shortterm casual what I'm saying cuz I want small like bubbles of like experiencing people I want to
03:27:49
Brian Atlasknow like all about you I want to know why but if it's a short-term casual sexual encounter what would be the purpose of getting this deep connection with someone for a short ter I love
03:28:01
Mars Noirpeople cuz I love experiencing and finding out again again my whole point of Love or life is love and to be loved and so the point is not just to look the point is to
03:28:13
Sammy Joeexperience amazing about you what I don't understand is the one time she's saying she actually doesn't just want to go and sleep with someone is when you guys are confused so for at once in this
03:28:24
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)conversation she's actually saying my motive was not to sleep with this person AB Zer confusion on my end that that she doesn't want to sleep with anyone that's not the confusion confusion for me was the was the motive that ended up making you want
03:28:38
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)to go and flirt with other guys in front of this person who You' just been kissing because to me that's just like kind of a mean thing to do and I was just kind of trying to get to the bottom of what was what he did that pissed you off that made you want to go do that in
03:28:50
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)front of him cuz females can be very vicious like that if if they get pissed off by something then they will go and do something to really like I didn't mean to be vicious and I didn't set out
03:28:59
Mars Noirto hurt him I did not know this man enough to consider that would be a big deal and in retrospect that probably could have hurt him and that sucks I
03:29:11
Brian Atlasdon't want to do that to people so I for example like I don't get if uh if a girl's on a dating app and she's like oh I'm in town in Santa Barbara for a week or for the
03:29:24
Brian Atlasweekend and they're like actively looking to meet up with a guy now I get it there's some girls who like want the tour guide because that whatever that's weird but it's like why would you be on a dating app while you're
03:29:37
Brian Atlastraveling while you're and I'm not saying I don't know if you were on the dating app but I've encountered this where the girl is like hey I'm in town for a week I want to meet up with a dude
03:29:46
Brian Atlasyou're going back to New York in 3 days my assumption there is you want a short-term sexual encounter but i' I had an experience with a girl granted she
03:29:56
Brian Atlasmight she might have just not been interested but met up for a date and she's in town for 4 days and I'm like okay this is just she wants a hookup and
03:30:06
Brian Atlasthen we're we're at the bar I'm not like we we met up for a drink or something and I was like we hung out we were H actually having a very pleasant conversation and I'm like hey do you
03:30:18
Brian Atlaswant to go back to my place and she's like I don't do that on the first date I'm like bro you're in town for two days what the like I mean it's fine it's cool but I'm like well you're just
03:30:30
Mars Noirmaking we don't have time for for a second date like hello I acknowledge that my dating style is non-traditional which is why like I put that in my application that not a lot of people set out to date people for what I set out to
03:30:43
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)date people for so I don't really necessarily have a problem with your dating style the thing I have a problem with is the whole like I just love people it's like did you love that guy when you did that boom
03:30:54
Mars Noirroasted I think like um said as much as I can on that like people are imperfect and being young and selfish you do things that you're not always like oh
03:31:06
Mars Noirthat's awesome like again like I don't mean to hurt this person that I met that day and I could have and that sucks I don't want that the ill intention wasn't
03:31:16
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)there just avoid the whole like I just love that language is just just grinds me I will not greck donated $99 she wants to break the heart of men
03:31:28
TTS Readerif she wants to get to know them and does this crap she's a psychopath Mrs marir I predict your future for you you hit the wall at probably 30 no guy that
03:31:38
TTS Readeryou want once you and you will die alone W you need Jesus ouch damn do you have a response to Greed neck I
03:31:49
Mars Noirmean again just kind of off of what I've been saying like the NY is an option I know my intention I know the
03:31:59
Mars Noirpeople that I date are down for what I what I got on the table what I'm throwing you know they can swing it so I
03:32:11
Mars NoirI don't feel offended by people being like you're going to die alone cuz I don't like how you do things it's like okay sorry what do you want for me I'm growing I'm learning I'm dating I'm young and I'm single and so I'm doing my best here well you have some more
03:32:24
Brian Atlaspre-show notes Here you say I think my hot take on dating is that uh I think we should embrace non-traditional dating more as a society than we do I don't believe in the ownership in a
03:32:36
Brian Atlasrelationship that see that seems to be the Norman Society I strongly believe that for me to have a healthy long-standing relationship we need to support each other in experiencing all
03:32:47
Brian Atlasthat life has to offer get over this in sex in love and experiences your relationship shouldn't hold you back from these experiences and that stands on good communication and Trust what you want and what you get from your
03:32:58
Brian Atlasrelationship is up to you and your partner not social expectations so when you say you say you don't believe in the ownership in a relationship we've kind of all been over this did we but what
03:33:10
Mars Noirprecisely t video like we've kind of like roundabout at this point okay yeah I thought I thought maybe you had more on that
03:33:22
Brian Atlastalking but do for example like one of my standards for a girl that I would take seriously in the long-term relationship is I don't want a girl who's partying all the time who's drinking who's going to bars who's going
03:33:32
Mars Noirto clubs to me that does not a good relationship make so if my girlfriend I want that from my boyfriend I wouldn't want my boyriend to feel that about me and both of these opinions are chill you
03:33:44
Mars Noirknow like you can think your way and find the person that you want to date and I can think my way and find the person I want to date and I think both are fine but but what what we as men often hear when we say yeah we don't
03:33:56
Brian Atlaswant our girlfriend going out to bars clubs parties hang like going into these party type environments with their typically single female friends who HTE
03:34:06
Brian Atlasyou in we we hear insecure controlling Etc mhm in my view is what what the and you haven't said it but what what they often say is insecure controlling what
03:34:18
Brian Atlasthese people call controlling insecure I consider just a healthy boundary for relationship so I don't know if you have a differing view on that if you view you might say that that's acceptable but you
03:34:29
Mars Noirmight view it as controlling or insecure you might say it's not it's a lack of trust or something and it's kind of like we said earlier it's like it can be either you know like and that's
03:34:40
Mars Noirwhat's the fun of meeting all the people and experiencing people and like okay everyone's so different and yeah maybe it'll come from insecurity you had like a bad ex or your parents had a bad
03:34:51
Mars Noirmarriage or something and then maybe you can take that and work in that relationship to find your good boundary or it just comes from like personal
03:35:04
Mars Noirpreference and you rather your girlfriend not do stuff like that and you'll find your person that is be like yeah sounds like your person would have like no boundaries though and I think that like
03:35:16
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)I said before you're actually someone who has quite like a big personality and you would require a man who has very strict boundaries big person yeah you have a big personality you'd require a man I'm really introverted this is
03:35:28
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)really like compliment yeah so so you would require a man in from my observation that would have quite strong boundaries in order for you to respect him at all because boundaries yeah strong boundaries someone who someone who's assertive
03:35:40
Mars Noirsomeone who's quite a masculine sort of God for sure and if they mix with mine well like there's certain things that I would be willing to um sacrifice for a relationship and things that I wouldn't and they might be
03:35:54
Brian Atlasdifferent than yours but it's just like person to person well I I on your note here you say I strongly believe that for me to have and I already read this but I just have a point on it I strongly believe that for me to have a healthy
03:36:05
Brian Atlaslong-standing relationship we need to support each other in experiencing all that life has to offer in sex in love and experiences when you say that in a relationship we need to support each
03:36:16
Brian Atlasother in experiencing all that life has to offer in Sex and Love and experiences are you talking about sleeping with other people in a like while in a relationship if it makes sense for me
03:36:28
Mars Noirand my partner yeah well is that what you want sure yeah if I have a longstanding committed relationship I definitely see myself being very comfortable I'm not a very jealous
03:36:39
Mars Noirperson and I think the only time that that sucks is with cheating because you're doing something malicious towards me you are taking my trust for you and deciding that that my sexual urges
03:36:50
Mars Noirare more important so you would you would step out as well um if I feel like it yeah if you feel like it it's like a very broad way to say that but like if but any guy who lets I'm not a super
03:37:03
Mars Noirlike yeah any guy who lets his girlfriend step out is a I saw on the way he said love to cut so well maybe he's your guy I know I was
03:37:14
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)like trying to wave him down I was like but but the more serious point though is that if if that were the case you wouldn't respect that guy you'd walk all over him you would absolutely eat him alive sex is not the only way to respect
03:37:26
Mars Noirpeople I'm not talking about that I'm talking about the actual like fundamental respect in relationship my partner is cool with me having a sexual experience outside of our relationship
03:37:36
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)therefore unrespectable bad guy walk all over over him no I don't feel that person you said I'm I'm more talking about like a fundamental respect that that happens in a relationship and this
03:37:48
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)normally happens when the girl feels like the guy is in control and that he's taking the lead and she can she can respect him and that she can respect his authority and she can respect the decisions that he makes and
03:37:59
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)think if you just let me finish my point if and she respects his the decisions that he makes and that um yeah he's got the lead when she has a problem he can solve it and generally a guy likes to be
03:38:10
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)respected we have we have egos all of us guys and like I said before there's certain superpowers that you girls have that if you just tapped into would be so so powerful and one of those things is
03:38:22
Mars Noirjust making a guy feel respected if you know how to make a man feel respected but I think respect is earned through communication like if my partner closer okay if my partner is like if we get
03:38:34
Mars Noirtogether and have a conversation and come to our boundaries and agreements it's not disrespecting you disrespecting you would to be to hear what you're cool with and not cool with like to hear that you don't want me to like flirt people
03:38:46
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)at the body respect would be respect would be me telling you my boundaries and you saying yes sir yeah yes your
03:38:53
Brian Atlasmouth is quivering as you're saying yes daddy that's um I like I feel like most healthy well-adjusted men are not going
03:39:05
Brian Atlasto be cool with their girlfriend wanting to or actually other dudes but you always bring it back to and it's not like but that's what we're talking about that's pretty important
03:39:17
Brian Atlasyeah like okay fine I wouldn't want you to be I wouldn't want you to be emotionally cheating either I wouldn't want you to be flirting with other dudes either what what under like what other contexts are there those are great
03:39:28
Mars Noircontexts just saying like they're all going back to and I just I don't know I feel like with the people that I know and surround myself with where like you surround yourself with a lot of people that are in your faith and
03:39:40
Brian Atlasrespect your like virginity and probably feel the same most most atheist men don't want their girlfriend other dudes it's not about religion I'm not making
03:39:51
Brian Atlasabout religion I'm just saying surrounds no I don't I don't know I'm just trying surround yourself with like-minded people it's not about liberal atheist men probably don't want their girlfriend
03:40:03
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)it's not about religion it's just like like-minded people so I found myself with people that it's a problem of morality so yeah yeah it is a religious problem and you're you're a liberal I'm
03:40:14
Mars Noirassuming liberal atheist um not an atheist um you agnostic I don't know in the Catholic I
03:40:24
Mars Noirgrew up Catholic and then I had um I moved out really young and I kind of stopped practicing Faith okay so I've never really like picked it up and actually going to Thailand was like the
03:40:37
Mars Noirfirst time in a long time that I've remet spiritual people outside Buddhist of I mean people from all over of different religions like Buddhist too for sure but yeah I don't have like a
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Mars Noiridea of what my faith is you know it's like one of those like moments yeah do you ever see yourself being monogamous of course oh okay yeah but I mean you I feel like you'd be a very dangerous
03:41:02
Brian Atlasperson to get into a serious mon monogamous relationship with just because of your proclivities towards wanting to experience all that life has to offer and sex and love and experiences I would hope that I would find like-minded people that make sense
03:41:15
Mars Noirfor me that's what everyone hopes in a relationship and if we agreed like hey like let's just do us that's not going to like again like I believe
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Mars Noirin like experiencing everything and not holding people back but at the same time like you're doing a give and take in a relationship sure I don't know um wait I I want to pull up your Twitter really
03:41:36
Brian Atlasquick then we're going to move on okay another no the first Twitter thing from her okay about say like be careful on there yeah be careful uh why do all boys get so
03:41:48
Brian Atlasboring after like two weeks why do they do that I don't know if we really Dove deep on this so the guys get boring right just a gag any danger it's just a gag I was saying I was like I'm adding
03:41:59
TTS Readerlore to a funny joke greck donated $99 she says that she wants all that like a long-term committed relationship sha santu is real and the pope is
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TTS Readerpresbyter Ian holy Brian where do you find these people I'm sorry the truth is every girl that does s work dies alone or with a simp she don't respect
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Brian Atlastrue man yes greed neck you really hit the the soundboard on that I had I had to hit it I had to hit it uh pull up the Tweet
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Mars Noironce again so you're saying that's it's just like a joke yeah cuz like I had two really long relationships back to back and then I started dating more casually you said you've been single for 3 years and none of them like nothing's lasted
03:42:42
Mars Noirlonger than 2 weeks and you said you get bored super easily so it's like an OV exaggeration of like my point of like trying to get the basis of how I date up
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Mars Noirbut when you say bored like do you feel that we as men are ought to be your entertainers no it's like the okay let's say I'm like dating a guy and we're
03:43:03
Mars Noirhaving a lot of fun when we hang out but maybe like we have fun when we're out at the movies like driving around town but when we're at home sitting and talking
03:43:13
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)it's just not doing it I'm like I'd rather just cut it off than like keep doing this you're a great person but you're not the person for me too much when you guys have all this life experience and you have all of these
03:43:25
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)different guys the laundry list grows and you're and you're like we had a great time outside yeah but when I was with you know Dean we used to have a great time at home and then when I was with him we used to have great sex and
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Mars Noirthe sex isn't as good and then the laundry list boring topics like he can't talk to me about like politics or he can't talk to me about like current events he can't talk to me about like anything reason why you keep getting
03:43:48
Jake (Rattlesnake TV)bored to respond to your Tweet is because you have too many things that you're trying to look for too many boxes you can't let them go I think one thing related to that
03:43:59
Brian Atlasthat some women will do is they'll if they've dated a lot of men they will want the amalgamation of those men so this guy was really good and bad this guy had a great personality this guy was the
03:44:11
Brian Atlasprovider this guy had the status whatever it is but you're dating people not amalgamations and I feel again like but women want the total package they want the amalgamation you're talking to me about my tweet okay we can come back
03:44:23
Brian Atlasto the Tweet then so we're talking about specifics not General I'm just curious how so the three years you say you keep finding yourself in these two week things and you get bored or you move on or whatever and you seem to be the one
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Mars Noirwho ends all of them how many of these two we things would you say there have been um dozens so like the first year being single I was celibate didn't date
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Mars Noiranybody for a year for a year had a long relationship didn't work out there was a lot of emotional stress needed some time alone to be young and grow into my own
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Mars Noirself before getting back into the sauce um I don't know I just cuz I go on a lot of dates I don't know like how long you go on a lot of
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Mars Noirdates what do you mean those free no I actually um am very Dutch you split the
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Brian Atlasbill often yeah okay that's fine um when you say you go on a lot of dates what are we talking about a couple times a week um maybe some weeks what's that maybe some weeks but not like often how
03:45:29
Brian Atlasmany in the past so hard to tell Dude in in 2023 how many in 2023 First Dates have you been
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Mars Noiron could not not tell you above 50 below below 50 for sure
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Brian Atlasum 20 25 21st dates 25 I don't know 30 so 20 to 30 I don't know you don't
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Brian Atlasknow we okay yeah that uh how many two week things have you had um like two
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Mars Noirweeks to like a month so count them on my fingers um I don't know like
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Brian Atlaslesson six okay word but you said when you're just hanging out with them that guy at the house that's when
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Mars Noiryou get bored that was that guy's reason that's specific guy what about the other guys you get bored them um one guy I couldn't see us having like a life that made sense together because of what his
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Mars Noirgoals were for his life Stu like that like never like anything like so terribly crazy you know like you don't make enough or something it's just like I just don't see our lives working together and but you say you get bored that's what that's what
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Brian AtlasI'm trying because it's a part of the lore of the joke the the lore of the joke yeah are you a Lord this is a lot of questions yeah this is the Inquisition um I mean just my my whole
03:47:06
Brian Atlasthing on this boredom thing um I definitely think like if a girl is bored just hanging out with you that's a pretty bad sign I mean a bad sign that's
03:47:17
Brian Atlaswhy it is but but like for example I think if a girl really likes you she will be super stoked to just hang out with you and do nothing once once
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Mars Noiryour girl like you're not going to mesh with every single person ever and I just love meeting people and experiencing people and that's going to make it very hard for you to find a long-term relationship will you ever met
03:47:40
Brian Atlashuh what do you think will you ever match totally but but like once you're girl like if you've otherwise been just hanging out with your girl and then she starts saying oh can we go out and do