01:54:09Sammy Joegood uh no now it's now there's glare oh man um I can that's good that's fine that's fine
01:54:20HTH (Hoe Math)okay sorry about that there's like there's a 3 second uh uh delay that's fine f but anyway all of the women are attracted to a very you know slim section of the men at the top and they end up having like really low quality
01:54:33HTH (Hoe Math)relationships with them the green lines are the satisfying long-term relationships and the orange and red are the ones where it's like well I would be you know I would date him but he doesn't want to date me and um I mean I I think
01:54:47HTH (Hoe Math)that's what you're asking there is like the the experience of of women using dating apps and walking around in the world it's like just a very small number of the guys at the top who get those kind of
01:54:56HTH (Hoe Math)looks right and can you explain the the left side of your chart there the left one is the way that men see women in the world is that they're very willing to have relationships directly across with
01:55:10HTH (Hoe Math)women that they have never met before like a male five walking around like on the subway will look at a female five and go oh maybe she's the girl for me right but a female five does not do that with male five it's they're only going
01:55:21HTH (Hoe Math)to be looking at the top guys that if they haven't met them and don't know anything about them yet so the Dynamics of like you can only know so many men right the Dynamics attraction are
01:55:32Brian Atlasheavily weighted towards just the most desirable guys word word and did you have something also like another drawing that's somewhat related to this one but you said that there's a bottom portion of
01:55:44HTH (Hoe Math)men that are invisible yeah um I just sort of keep this thing around it's a little joke that I tell where and this is there's a
01:55:54HTH (Hoe Math)study that um confirms this as well like they they watched women's Brains on a brain scan and they said that with really unattractive men really low value
01:56:04HTH (Hoe Math)men that they saw them as not even there that they didn't register people in their brains at all so I've had this experience myself I used to drive for Lift in Uber and you know girls with really good jobs and getting a lot of
01:56:17HTH (Hoe Math)male attention would get in the car and they would talk to me like I was they would talk to each other in the backseat like I was not there they would say things that you would not say in front of a stranger gotcha gotcha okay cool um
01:56:28Brian Atlasand I think uh this is your cut off here so um any final thoughts and we'd be glad to have you back some other time but uh any final thoughts is there is
01:56:38HTH (Hoe Math)there one piece of drawing that you really want to show us I think you know they someone paid to say you know to go watch this video this will show you everything you need to know I've got a
01:56:51HTH (Hoe Math)23 minute video on this about this on YouTube called zones and it is you know go read the comments everyone says it's been very enlightening for them um it's
01:57:02HTH (Hoe Math)just you know it's a quick look at what men and women value and I'm hoping to use that to sort of fix the problems in the dating world as much as I can rock and roll man well hey thank you for
01:57:11Brian Atlasjoining us uh guys go check out HTH on YouTube Tik Tok um and he's got some really funny videos um and um thank you
01:57:21Brian Atlasfor joining us this was our first time ever having a video in guest so uh thank you for being out the technical difficulties next time yeah oh well thank you for being our guinea pig and um yeah we we'd love to have you back
01:57:34Brian Atlasman maybe face reveal next time maybe maybe yeah we'll see we'll see we'll see all right man cool cool well hey thanks for tuning in man we'll catch you later
01:57:44Brian Atlassee you all right see you bye bye all right back to uh he was nice I too yeah uh chat how did you it was there's a little technical difficulties it wasn't
01:57:55Brian Atlasperfect but chat did you like the video in maybe we'll try to do this maybe we'll like have someone who like is in Australia or some who uh just it's just too complicated for them to make it
01:58:05Brian Atlashere we'll have them do a video in sometime yeah so uh I want to let's see if we're oh hold on uh let me have this one One
01:58:16TTS ReaderMotorsports donated $100 women have to qualify as money or hot if a man equals not hot and have no money at best friends Zone the more money you have the less hot you have to
01:58:28TTS Readerbe of course women will keep hot dudes around for sex but are broke while using other men for
01:58:37Brian Atlasmoney word word thank you gri one appreciate it so some of you were very kind and provided some pre-show notes to us so I'm going to try to and there's quite a
01:58:48Brian Atlasfew so I'm going to try to get through everything um let's see I had a question for you so uh you're married how long have you been married a year is there any reason you don't like on Instagram
01:59:00Sammy Joeyou don't post your husband or uh I mean it's a business account so most businesses don't post family so I just do you have a personal too oh okay gotcha I I have a fit a my fitness
01:59:11Sammy Joeaccount that I post most of my like Fitness content and then I have my business account that I post you have to do that thing where you like make yourself like Brown and you go on stage
01:59:21Sammy JoeBrown the tan yeah the tan I always find that they're just like so Brown could get canc for muscle it's to show muscle definition cuz the stage has really bright lights that would wash you out so it shows like actual muscle definition
01:59:33Brian Atlasand nice all right here are my notes here we're going to start with Kaden Kaden I grew up in a small rural Farm Village and was engaged to my high school sweetheart in college he was in
01:59:45Brian Atlasthe military we dramatically broke up and I started seeing do you want to tell us you started seeing this is what you told us D1
01:59:53Brian Atlasathletes Trappers sugar daddies Etc and now you do only fans LOL LOL LOL um what is a Trapper first of all what's that
02:00:03Brian Atlaswhat's a Trapper people who sell drugs okay yeah drug dealers yeah did you have a was there a what's it called uh a totem pole of like because
02:00:16Kaydenyou said D1 athletes Trappers sugar daddies what was the it started with the D1 athletes and then I went to the Trappers and then I went to the sugar daddies okay back to the Trappers back to the
02:00:26Brian AtlasTrappers okay how how many Trappers did you honestly not like just handful couple couple hung around you one athletes what do we rowing football what
02:00:37Kaydenare we talking football basketball there was there were some pros in there baseball NFL uh no no wait yeah there there was an NFL there was an
02:00:48KaydenMLB Yeah couple NFL guys not a couple just one but no it was like college you said NLB ml that's major league baseball baseball yeah okay couple MLB or just no
02:01:00Brian Atlasjust one just one okay um I'm not infiltrated the NBA and was this like you have not infiltrated the NBA it's in the works though right any any
02:01:11Kaydenin your DMs right now man so you said you were engaged high school sweetheart um yeah why did that end he okay so he actually never proposed he bought the
02:01:21Kaydenring I tried on the wedding band and we ended up ending it I was 17 um he was my high school sweetheart got me the promise ring when he went off to basic training um so I wore that like an
02:01:33Kaydenengagement ring on my ring finger on my left hand um and then I got to college so that was in our small rural Farm Village um and then I went to college where my undergrad class was eight times
02:01:46Kaydenthe size of my hometown um so it was kind of like a c Ultra shock more or less like I just realized I was like oh my God this isn't the only man in the world um I'm like actually way more attracted to so many other people and like have way
02:02:00Kaydenmore and just people that I have way more in common with because I was always kind of settling for him like even like I I was settling the whole time what do you mean how were you settling like we
02:02:11Kaydendidn't like we got along I was fairly attracted to him fairly atted the sex was not good that's where the attraction
02:02:20Kaydennot good um why you say why why how I feel like put his business out
02:02:28Kaydenthere is it is too quick too small too quick too you know small okay lots of things yeah I just I didn't find myself pleased um but then like religion we
02:02:39Kaydendisagreed on and he was in the military and I was like a server and he hated that I made more money than him serving than he did in the military he got very angry about that uming in more now he is
02:02:51Kaydenyeah no I mean actually I don't know he's he's now married to the girl that was just a friend the entire time we were together so oh he cheated on you too yeah for sure um but I didn't know
02:03:02Kaydenthat until way later um yeah so like we just got to the point like I had tried on the wedding band we actually like we broke up before he proposed and then tried to get back together a couple
02:03:12Kaydenyears later no a year later or the next year um and it was just kind of all the same like I was just not satisfied thought I should probably go find something else but like because I
02:03:24Kaydenwant to be a mom and I want to have the house and the kids and everything like I was like okay so I found it so I should just settle and do that but then going to college and meeting tenfold people that I liked so much more than this guy
02:03:36Brian AtlasI was like okay I should probably was that drug de did you like the drug dealers more than your military husband yeah I did fiance yeah okay wow all right drug dealers right some of them
02:03:49Kaydenare cool I don't know it's not about the fact it's not about the occupation you know so was you said you disagreed on religion was he a Christian he yes and you're atheist I'm agnostic raised in the church you said you dramatically
02:04:01Kaydenbroke up how did you dramatically break up it's because we were like on and off that was the dramatic part of it it wasn't like anything like when we officially broke up and that was it he like called me and he was like are you
02:04:12Kaydensleeping with this frat boy that you hang out with and I was like no I'm not and I wasn't like I was not cheating and then he was like stop the C I was not he didn't ask if I was sleeping with the
02:04:24Kaydenfootball players in my dorm so I would have you know maybe told the truth then maybe um but what anyway okay good times good
02:04:34Kaydentimes but yeah so it wasn't like it was just like a dramatic like te phone call where I was just like yeah I just I'm not feeling it I'm like I'm this here
02:04:44Brian AtlasI'm what's uh here I'm Bartholomew that's right boyfriend's all right oh uh you're you said you're from a small
02:04:55Brian Atlasrural Farm Village yeah I'm trying to think of like a southern all right what's up babe how you doing no accent but hey hey what's up what do you I'm
02:05:05Brian Atlasjust shooting guns cuz I'm in the military um yeah oh I miss you babe
02:05:16Kaydenwhat's up okay so his his best friend who was in the Frat are we still ro we're not role playing I'm sorry I need this is important this was part of the the dramatic part the the best friend said that I was cheating on him with his
02:05:28Kaydenfrat brothers or just assumed he was like yo like Kayden's doing this like really like that you wouldn't approve of and so that's when he called me up it's a good friend and that's when he hey babe what's up wait you went to
02:05:39Kaydenschool with his friend best friend yes and he saw you doing scandalous at a fra party that he yeah deemed it to be scandalous no it was like it was I I
02:05:51Kaydenwent to a semiformal with one of his frat brothers so I was like a date like I hung out at their frat a lot because like while you were in a relationship with with his best friend so like I hung around kind of scandalous but like they
02:06:03Kaydenwere like watching out for me is how it you know kind of felt like his friends were were there to watch out for me in college you know um so I would like hang around them so I went to their semi-formal you know like as a girl that
02:06:15Kaydenhangs around with frats like you just find a guy that will take you maybe you just find a guy that will take you dramatically what's the dramatic
02:06:26Kaydenpart that was it was just said you're doing this and yeah let's go back to the phone call all right so okay dump me go ahead well but that he he was like do you even want to do this anymore and I
02:06:37Kaydenwas like no not really he was like okay I need you to mail my keyb cuz I lived with him for a summer cold cold as ice I was tapped I mentally broke up with him
02:06:48Brian Atlaslong before we actually broke up goodes sense good time so and then question for you how soon and you never did did you cheat on
02:06:58Kaydenhim or no um yes yes I did oh okay how much how much how much like it was like couple guys three guys yeah like
02:07:09Kaydenthree three guys yeah and you went until SE yes question the day that you broke up with him did you have sex with another guy no like like I was
02:07:20Kaydennot like when that happened I was I was pretty well behaved at that point it was like yeah the the engagement part like the when the ring was bought that's when I was really quick I don't I don't want
02:07:32Brian Atlasto linger on the only fan stuff so long but you you graduated from University right yeah um what what did you study in University uh my degree is in organizational psychology and communication is there any reason you
02:07:42Kaydendidn't like want to pursue a career in that versus did oh you did and it was not went I worked 80 hours a week and I sat at home worked from home with my
02:07:53Kaydenlittle headset 150 cold calls a day I was miserable um I was not active um so I told them like hey like you guys aren't paying me enough to pay my rent so I'm going to go sell jello shots at
02:08:04Brian Atlasthe bar down the street made my paycheck in two days and left the corporate world well in another note you have here you say you love talking about dating in relationships because I feel like I have
02:08:14Brian Atlasa lot of insight plus some taboo opinions on monogamy and domestic partnership right in you have a BS in Psychology and communication I feel like it has opened my mind to many forms of
02:08:26Brian Atlasnontraditional relationships I don't necessarily have oh wait I don't know I missed that part yeah um I don't have
02:08:35Brian Atlastrying does a bs stand for Bachelor of Science oh right okay agreee so these two College disciplines psychology and communication opened your eyes to non-traditional Rel
02:08:48Kaydenrelationships that like just the classes that I took like communication a lot and then like I took like um a human sexuality course and like I like kind of just dove into like how people interact
02:08:58Kaydenwith each other okay ultimately and but they were they were like pushing non-traditional relationships or like no like I'm like thinking the human sexuality course in in particular it was
02:09:10Kaydenjust educational of like how many different types of sexualities and Partnerships may exist and what the behind some of them and things like that so what are your taboo opinions on
02:09:22Kaydenmonogamy and domestic partnership I don't necessarily think monogamy is a must I don't think it's natural I don't think it's inherent um I
02:09:33Kaydenvery much separate sex from partnership relationship so I don't think that cheating is a be all end all I think like in society there's a lot of weight
02:09:43Kaydenon infidelity and um I think that you know of course course like this I feel like it is taboo I did have a sugar daddy one time that was like you're so fascinating like you're a gorgeous woman
02:09:54Kaydenthat thinks like a man um because I was just like no I think it's unrealistic to think that your partner is never ever going to cheat on you because they said so because everybody cheats it's
02:10:06Brian Atlaslike I think a large majority of people cheat well you're right cuz you wrote I think you wrote here my biggest hot take cheating is inevitable and unavoidable 90% of the time and that's
02:10:16Brian Atlasokay um take there it is I mean I I disagree I think uh maybe it's the men that you're chasing after that are D1 athletes what
02:10:27Brian Atlaswas it uh sugar daddiy Trappers Etc perhaps it's the men that you're pursuing that are more prone to cheating but um I think a lot of women are chasing after relationships with men
02:10:39Brian Atlasthat are frankly out of your league not your not you specifically but kind of going back to that thing a lot of women are chasing after the top tier of men men have sexual abundance they have an
02:10:50Brian Atlasabundance of options romantically sexually Etc they have no incentive to really commit to one woman so those are the men who like are going to just sleep with a bunch of chicks and they're not they're going to cheat on you not going relationship what's that then why are
02:11:03Kaydenthey agreeing to a monogamous relationship because the guy wants to know that that child is his and not somebody else's so like you think they're just demanding monogamy from the woman right while not being monogamous themselves so I mean there are like if
02:11:16Jake (Rattlesnake TV)if you actually look at like a lot of really successful guys will be married quite young and then they would earn their they would have their success a lot later in life so if you look at the statistics a lot of the time it doesn't it's not really born out by the statistics but then again you don't
02:11:29Jake (Rattlesnake TV)really know what they do on the side but if you get guys who are young and successful I mean like in their 30s a lot of the time they would you know be rubbing shoulders with certain crowds and they would have they would have sort of clawed their way to the Top early and
02:11:41Brian Atlasthen they wouldn't really want him be wanting to settle down but yeah yeah a lot of guys who become very wealthy are already married already have kids and yeah right so your taboo opinion was
02:11:53Kaydenthat you don't think monogamy is the natural order of things yeah more or less I think that sex can be separate from like sex can be detached cheats that doesn't mean they hate you that
02:12:06Kaydendoesn't mean that they're bad to you that doesn't mean that you have a terrible relationship and shouldn't be together that's my hot take like right cuz I see what you yeah you also wrote staying with someone who has cheated
02:12:16Brian Atlasdoes not make you weak it does not mean your relationship is trash um I have some notes I have some thoughts on that but who here agrees with her does anybody agree with I've got a bit of nuanced opinion on it but you can go
02:12:29Sammy Joefirst yeah I'll go first I agree I think they're yeah I don't know if you just want to hand more just a yes or no if you kind of agree that I agree okay um
02:12:39Brian Atlasmy take is is that um so you said that it does not mean your relationship is trash M your relationship may not necessarily be
02:12:49Brian Atlastrash but I would argue your partner is if they cheat on you um now maybe I don't know if women have a different view on this than me my advice to men if your girl cheats on you that's a WAP the
02:13:02Brian Atlasrelationship is over you're dead man walking if you have any dignity you walk and you never look back so so maybe that applies to you but I certainly wouldn't
02:13:12Brian Atlasadvise men to ever stay with a girl who cheats on them it's over it's done and I know I actually do I like as a woman I feel like it's not that hard not to
02:13:23Kaydencheat but I think that men cheat far more often because they feel a need to disagree okay women have more options to cheat women have more ability to cheat I feel I guess physically women cheat more
02:13:35Jake (Rattlesnake TV)but men emotionally they can't hide it or or by watching um yeah fair I think what you're saying is true in the sense of like if you look at it biologically and like anthropologically it's it's proven
02:13:48Jake (Rattlesnake TV)that like you know human beings aren't necessarily meant to be monogamous but if you look at the most healthy societies they're all nuclear family societies and then as soon as the nuclear family starts to deteriorate so
02:14:01Jake (Rattlesnake TV)Society starts to deteriorate so if we had it our way we could all be running around and being non- monogamous in these little you know Beach and Thailand like little uh like hippie dippy
02:14:11Kaydenrelationships on the beach if we want to have healthy societies it's a man and a woman in a relationship with children raising those children in a two parent household and they're not right okay yes and you can have that I was raised in
02:14:24Jake (Rattlesnake TV)that family and there can still be infidelity though yeah there can be and actually it's actually probably a lot more common than people think a lot of the time when people are like they fall out of love when they get a bit older
02:14:34Jake (Rattlesnake TV)40s and 50s and everything um the and I'm from an Italian background and this is very common with Italians is that the woman has an attitude of just sort of turn a blind eye yeah and this is it's it's very common and then the guy will
02:14:47Jake (Rattlesnake TV)go out and sort of do do what he needs to do as long as he doesn't bring anything home as long as he doesn't impreg Tommy sh be one motor $100 very funny the girl who has not had
02:14:58TTS Readera successful relationship thinks it's normal for cheating to occur I do not no man in my circle that would even consider maintaining a relationship with a cheater nothing you have said is
02:15:10Kaydenhealthy make better choices heard don't you think that there's something deeper going on if one or the other cheats like isn't that there's a problem so I like Foster open
02:15:22KaydenCommunication in my relationships I stay straightforward if you cheat on me please just tell me like let me know like it's a safety thing you know like sexual health is so important like I
02:15:32Kaydenjust want to know and then I would love to dig deeper into why because if you are cheating on me because you don't respect me because you are not attracted to me because you know you're not you're
02:15:43Anettenot happy in our relationship that's so different than I would was just attracted to that person and I had that had nothing to do with you so but why would you stay like why would you continue to be with somebody who doesn't
02:15:55Jake (Rattlesnake TV)value you or want of doesn't necessarily mean that I don't Val value her it's just for for a guy nothing to do with me this is not my values personally but a lot of the time for a guy just having sex on the side with a girl isn't necessarily if there's an emotional
02:16:07Jake (Rattlesnake TV)connection and if he gives her resources and he gives her his time and like then then that's but I mean he is giving her his time because he's having sex with her but that's where she comes into play
02:16:19Sammy Joein in fostering open communication is it did you do it because you were just sexually attracted to that person and you were able to disconnect the emotions and you don't want to be with that person but you were just sexually attracted to engage in a sexual act with
02:16:31Sammy Joethem or is it because you fell out of love with me you have no respect for me and now you just don't want to be with me if they say yes to that then absolutely you're out but if it's you just have a sexual attraction to them
02:16:42Sammy Joeand you just wanted to experience an experience with them with no emotion attached then that's different it's not a disrespect to you because it's
02:16:52Anettenot Maj your disrespect because why aren't you need to go and see somebody else and be with somebody else when you're supposed to be that core piece of
02:17:04Jake (Rattlesnake TV)or that partner that's the thought of monogamy is the one and only way yeah you You' also got a good good point in the sense that you you believe in in monog in monogamy in that sense but I think it's just like what you said before it's all about communication you
02:17:16Jake (Rattlesnake TV)want to lay down those boundaries at the start and you want to say cheating is absolutely not on and then if a guy comes to you it sounds like with your value structure and he says you know I've uh I've got a few things happening I'm traveling a lot and you know if if
02:17:29Jake (Rattlesnake TV)something happens I won't tell you about it and you say cool don't tell me about it that's your value structure a lot of the time when people are trying to keep families together in particular they'll have a little handshake agreement on the side it's better than it's better than
02:17:41AnetteBreaking the family up that's what I why is that okay why is that something that we just accept and move on from instead of you know because it's two grown
02:17:52Sammy Joeadults making a mutual agreement if that like and that's the point where you pick someone who has morals and values that align with yours so you would be with someone who doesn't view or doesn't have that thought process once who's to say
02:18:05Sammy Joeit's not going to happen again right but there's a difference I would say there's a difference between someone cheating because they're falling out of love or an a mutual agreement between two people that understand like I know that you and
02:18:16Sammy JoeI have an emot connection we have a bigger picture in life goals aspirations things that we want to achieve together but you're able to have a sexual attraction to somebody else but that's what I'm saying if there's a mutual
02:18:28Sammy Joeagreement it's not cheating like if if it's talked about before right like obviously we want to build a future together but if you have a sexual attraction to someone if you're asking for permission to go and engage
02:18:39Jake (Rattlesnake TV)in annoyed if he lied about it you guys would be annoyed proba annoyed that he was too much to tell you as well so you lose a bit of respect for him at the same time what were you saying I think
02:18:51Angelait's never okay to cheat but also it's forgiveness if you can forgive that saying okay I forgive you and let's work hard let's fix what was ruined or why you went to that woman or guy uh this is
02:19:03Angelathe main part to forgive if you can forgive if you can't then let's separate even though it's horrible let's separate and I think you have to with everyone in different levels at the start of the relationship you kind of have to
02:19:14Jake (Rattlesnake TV)establish those boundaries like if if you cheat on me it's done if if I had like a long-term relationship i' obviously it would go without saying I would have to tell her though that if you cheat on me it's just there's just
02:19:26Jake (Rattlesnake TV)no coming back from that whatsoever but you know everyone's different in that sense and it sounds like to you that would be something that you'd have to established from The Dot from the jump it depends on yeah I don't communicate
02:19:39Anetteestablished I feel like it should just be a given don't cheat on me don't go sleep with other women if I'm trying to have a relationship with you Rel not you and whoever else you want to have sex with and it should be never the first
02:19:51Angelaoption sory to cheat on it would be the first let's go let's talk let's uh ask for let's ask for someone for to help and it's the last it's not even an
02:20:01Sammy Joeoption to cheat first let's communicate let's it down I think yeah no absolutely I I agree but that's where the if you commit to a monogamous relationship that's where the cheating aspect is but
02:20:13Sammy Joeif you communicate prior and agree to a non- monogamous relationship then cheating isn't occurring because it's been disussed a relationship it it'll pretty much never work if the if it's open on the girl
02:20:25Jake (Rattlesnake TV)side but if you bring I think it can work if you bring girls into a relationship you bring a guy into the relationship your your husband's automatically a cuck it's not going to work ever Bas yeah um have you ever been
02:20:37Brian Atlasin an open relationship no not like a PO armmer relationship now okay I see okay um let's see what other we have a couple
02:20:45Brian Atlasmore from you um even as an adult content creator I believe healthy relationships are achievable if you find someone who's emotionally mature enough
02:20:58Brian Atlasyeah so are you saying that men who would not date a woman who does only fans for example are they they're immature no I wouldn't say that are they emotionally immature no I wouldn't say that either that I mean like you can be
02:21:11Brian Atlasemotionally mature and still prefer someone who doesn't do only fans what do you guys think think it's like a matter of do you think men who wouldn't who wouldn't feel comfortable or wouldn't want to date a girl who does only fans
02:21:22Brian Atlasdo you think they're insecure or immature in some way or just maybe sometimes but I don't think inherently okay sometimes they are though yeah for
02:21:32Brian Atlassure okay okay that would agree all right okay last thing from you we have a Tik
02:21:39Brian AtlasTok of yours to react to What yep I post like twice a year uh Nick there is a Tik Tok tab pulled up that's so fun scared
02:21:52Kaydenoh my god what have I posted oh full screen full screen before you go over my mom's proud of me by the way let me preface my parents love me my
02:22:03Brian Atlasabsolutely love me uh yeah okay is there if there's music playing Just pause or maybe is there music on this one it's like the voiceover okay just play it I
02:22:13TTS Readerthink it's fine go ahead Nick I don't have gold I don't have ambition I only want to be attractive I only want to look good I just want to be sexy
02:22:24TTS Readereverything else nothing else matters I just want to be pretty I don't care I don't care about uh do a replay Nick on it replay just and pause it and
02:22:34Brian Atlasthen pause it I don't have so you say me explaining to my parents that I just want to bartend and live my stupid little life until I get married and
02:22:44Kaydenbecome a stay-at-home mom is that kind of is that what you're going for yeah I feel like I yeah said that like I just want to be a mom I want to I want to pour my entire life into my kids but I
02:22:56Brian Atlasmean do you think that a guy who is able to support a family on one income is going to want to marry a girl who spent her best years bartending and doing
02:23:06Kaydennight life and living her best life and partying yes 100% you think so yes yeah okay I'm in that situationship
02:23:16Jake (Rattlesnake TV)for a reason he you know that's we want the same thing ultimately and he can make me a stay home if you could lay it out on the table for us some of the things that you look for in a man when you when you think about who's going to
02:23:28Kaydenbe the one who gives you his seed and you become a mother sorry to put it so so vulgarly but like what lay out for me some of the things that you that are essential man it is person by person I
02:23:40Kaydendon't like I don't have a type I don't have like okay let me do it for you then does he have to earn over 60k per year I he for me to get what I ultimately want
02:23:53Jake (Rattlesnake TV)they would have to be able to provide an entire household worth of income so you're you you're not work yeah cool so that let's say that's probably like 120k right yeah yeah yeah um does he have to
02:24:04Kaydenbe in shape can he be fat I could be fluffy fluffy or can he be can he be fat like um no not does he have to cuz you've been you've been rocking with those football players and stuff the
02:24:16Kaydenbar's High can he can he does he have to be in good shape no does not have to be in good shape okay cool can he can he be married well no previously or currently I was going to say previously currently
02:24:28Jake (Rattlesnake TV)oh you think there aren't girls out there who are getting I was just trying to no definitely no I would not like to be a third he can't be married no yeah okay how what's the age range what's the what's the maximum and minimum um oh
02:24:40Kaydengosh minimum like probably like 27 um maximum for me as a
02:24:50Kayden24-year-old probably oh gosh like 35 because I want them to raise the kids with me I want them you know age has to be kind of close what does he have to be tall over
02:25:01Kayden6 foot no no no cuz can he be like five I would prefer okay in like um a reproduction standpoint I would like him to be tall and handsome and you know not
02:25:12Jake (Rattlesnake TV)not necessarily fit all right so we want handsome guy who under 35 years old yeah um and who makes over 150k a year and can support you financially yeah we're
02:25:24Kaydenlooking at a uh pretty rare specimen here yeah yeah fair enough and here I am with no successful relationships as was said no no I'm not I'm not trying to like highlight it to you too much but like it's just that the expectation
02:25:37Jake (Rattlesnake TV)versus reality and this is where I think that like a lot of girls don't think about this sort of stuff when you make certain decisions and when you think about what you really want in life because if what you really want in life is to be a mother then and if that's the expectation you
02:25:50Jake (Rattlesnake TV)have for a guy and some of the guys that you've been with being high LEL athletes and and everything that sets the bar high for you because next time when you're with Kevin from it and you're thinking
02:26:02Kaydenabout just saying yeah but that's like that's where sex and partnership is different to me because yeah I was having sex with those High tier people you know they're making what I've just
02:26:14Kaydendescribed you as another high tier person well yeah okay but I mean like the people that you say my partner would compare themselves to jich the quarterback yeah like that that was sex I would never date the football players
02:26:27Jake (Rattlesnake TV)that I was sleeping with in colge so there's a thing called being Alpha widowed I think it's shout outs R tamasi for that one and what it means is that once a girl has had a certain standard of man whether it be sexual partner or a
02:26:38Jake (Rattlesnake TV)relationship it's burned into her brain so when Kevin from it is like having boring missionary sex with you you're thinking about jamael who had your face in the pillow and yeah so that's burned into your bra you think like
02:26:51Jake (Rattlesnake TV)subconsciously I would never allow myself to be with someone that doesn't no it's just going to spell disaster for your future relationship you're going to resent him for that and this is why when I say like this is ties back to us not wanting girls to travel and stuff so
02:27:04Jake (Rattlesnake TV)much is because when you have those certain life experiences that you guys call it then it affects your relationships down the line you might say oh but I want why can't I have those Rel those life experiences you have there's there's trade-offs in life that
02:27:16Laurayou have to make and some of those tradeoffs is jich the quarterback I think it's also like a sense of awareness too right I think nowadays people are a little bit more superficial a little bit less self-aware
02:27:28Lauraand so if we describe that man who makes six figures and is 6' tall and you know all of that you have to be a partner that that person wants right and if you lack the self-awareness to realize like
02:27:41Laurawhat are you bringing to the table that's going to attract and keep that partner that's where I think a lot of people will kind of shoot themselves in the foot so to speak dating wise because they don't recognize what the opposite
02:27:52Brian Atlassex really wants or values yeah oh well to to kind of add on to your thing with the whole Alpha Widow thing I think the where women typically get into trouble is once you've been with and that could
02:28:05Brian Atlasbe sexually or could even if you're able to secure a relationship typically it's not going to be a longterm committed relationship but maybe you'll be able to snag a guy for a friends with benefits or something once you've been with a
02:28:17Brian Atlascertain tier of guy certainly sexually you're going to kind of compare all your your future Partners to that guy and it could it might be just sexually it could
02:28:27Brian Atlasalso just be if he's a certain level of physical attractiveness maybe his status maybe it's his personality it could be any metric once you've been with a
02:28:37Brian Atlascertain tier of guy it's really hard to start to go and date a normal guy because here's the thing when it comes to securing sex women can secure sex
02:28:49Brian Atlaswith men that are out of their league that easy very easily and that's where women will get in trouble because you will think though if I'm able to sleep with this man that's the kind of guy that I deserve for a relationship but
02:29:00Brian Atlasmen will sleep with women that they have absolutely zero intention of ever being in a relationship with so women will hook up with like really hot dudes thinking that's who I deserve for a relationship you'll never get commitment
02:29:13Brian Atlasfrom that tier of guy you're going to start looking at the guys who are actually on your level who are your looks equivalents socioeconomic equivalents Etc you will start viewing them as settling or even below you
02:29:26Brian Atlasyou're not going to be satisfied in the in the relationship you're going to be resentful and the big difference I would say what you disagree hold on let me let
02:29:34Brian Atlasme finish my point and then you can come in um so typically I think for for a girl to sleep with a guy he typically has to at least be physically attractive
02:29:46Brian Atlasenough for her to be in a relationship with him the the reverse isn't really the case though men will sleep with women of a physical attractiveness level that they would never be in a relationship with
02:29:58Brian Atlasbut for a girl as long like for you to sleep with him typically you you'll make exceptions for example let's say you don't do one night stands you might do one night stand with a guy who's really really attractive whereas
02:30:10Brian Atlaswhereas men we'll do the reverse we'll have a one night stand with a girl who's two three so it's kind of this
02:30:19Mars Noirreversal yeah so you had something um just a small tidbit but to me it almost feels like settling to want your partner
02:30:29Mars Noirto have never experienced anything out of fear of not being adequate enough to meet their experiences well it's a super I think it's a super valid concern for
02:30:39Brian Atlasmen because as a as a normal dude like the amount of sexual opportunity that women get is insane like an
02:30:50Brian Atlasaverage girl has the equivalent sexual optionality the equivalent sexual poll as a male celebrity talking a professional athlete m a rock star musician Etc any single girl here at the
02:31:02Brian Atlasat this table if you were so inclined could multiple new guys a day that is that equivalent in men is reserved for the top tier less than 1% of men less than 1% of men can do that whereas
02:31:14Brian Atlasmore than 50% of women could do that I'm not it's not I don't think that's what women necessarily want but the the reality is is that like Drake is
02:31:24Brian Atlasregular chicks mhm he can he'll a girl who has a hundred or excuse me who has a thousand followers on Instagram who's relatively attractive the reverse really isn't happening like you don't
02:31:35Brian Atlashave high status super and I mean there's a differential here because men or men aren't really drawn to women with status but but you'll have women who will move in circles with like hyper
02:31:46Brian Atlassuccessful men really attractive men but you're never going to lock those those men down for commitment so then you it's like once you get with a top G you're going to look at the average dude you
02:31:59Brian Atlasmay be an average chick you manage to at a top g once whatever you're going to look at the average dude and be like eh Y and the laundry list just grows longer and longer as well go ahead
02:32:10Mars Noirgo ahead I just don't agree I think like yeah I think like it's really focused around sex at least the way you're putting it not even I mean it could also just be like what if you're with
02:32:21Mars Noira celebrity he might be flying you out he might be you might go to as a million dooll house apartment yeah it's like sex money is like always the talking points you hear from this like man versus woman thing like there's so much more than
02:32:33Mars Noirhuman being stus sure let's talk status too no it's not status like what do you offer outside of like just like money and looks and all this stuff like who are we like that's what I think like
02:32:44Mars Noirabout like all this cheating stuff it's like oh they might find like a sexier woman than me it's like but like I'm me and so like I wouldn't want to be with someone that wouldn't want to be with me so if you're like willing to hurt me to
02:32:57Mars Noirlike someone else then like this wasn't working anyway but what what so what specifically did I say though that you disagree with I disagree with like like I feel like a lot of the points
02:33:07Mars Noiryou're making right now like revolve so much around like status money like looks and I feel like there's so much more about people
02:33:18Angelayou really love people I mean you are so ined personality oh thank you you are so unique and I I wish you could go from where you are to a better place and I
02:33:28Anettefeel like you and I show similar values you you look deeper into people and you value more than all like this talk is fine and everything but at the end of the day
02:33:39Jake (Rattlesnake TV)it's a dating podcast and we we look at it from a practical perspective the reason it's like a social experiment it's it's a social experiment that
02:33:50Jake (Rattlesnake TV)Brian's been running if I can say so we where where we have a practical conversation about the actual facts about dating and this is the thing that why a lot of men watch podcasts like
02:34:01Jake (Rattlesnake TV)this is because they're looking for practical advice and practical advice is not yeah but you'll find your person one day because we can't we can't live in fantasy world like that if no no hold on a second if I go through my life in my
02:34:14Jake (Rattlesnake TV)20s and I say I don't want to work work I just want to sort of go around and just play games and smoke weed and I'll find my person my person I can't do that because in the real world in the
02:34:25Jake (Rattlesnake TV)Practical reality that will be so glaringly obvious to me that I have no options with women and I've been in that position before and you can't avoid that but unfortunately girls and guys communicate a bit differently if Brian
02:34:36Jake (Rattlesnake TV)started doing that tomorrow I'd be like Brian sort your out like why aren't you working anymore girls will say to each other yeah you go girl you do your thing you go and you know just be happy in you and love and hippie dippy stuff
02:34:49Jake (Rattlesnake TV)and unfortunately when you guys get confronted with reality sometimes it's a little bit harder to swallow can I just say the based Christian conservative wanted to say something I just think that like so the reason why I'm a virgin
02:35:02Anyais because I feel like I don't want to compare somebody I don't want to compare my husband to somebody else like sex-wise like I don't want to see that image in them so like seeing that like the whole cheating thing like if I'm
02:35:15Anyawith a virgin I don't have to worry about that I don't have to worry about cheating because they're not comparing me comparing the way that we have sex to somebody else and I think that's just a very common thing now is just sex sex
02:35:26TTS Readersex marriage sex is like 2% in marriage you got to worry about personality the way person treats you not based Chad 1,969 donated
02:35:38TTS Reader$100 this chick thinking she is going to land a unicorn with what she has to offer not sure how she can ask SL expect so much when what is she offering other
02:35:48Mars Noirthan a lot of sexual experience I've got some ocean front property in Iowa to sell her it might be that's the thing like so focused on sex you don't know
02:35:58Jake (Rattlesnake TV)anything about me what I offer it's like sex sex sex sex males you have to we're looking at this from a practical perspective and this is something that's very important to men and I know you think you can do whatever you want whenever you want all the time but men
02:36:11Jake (Rattlesnake TV)we actually look at these things and we value them so you might not value it but if you ever want to have a long-term relationship that's meaningful and if you want a man that's worth if you want a man that's worth his salt to look twice at you you have to take these
02:36:23Anettethings in mind here's the thing only fans has only been around for what maybe 5 years we have no idea what the repercussions are going to be later on in life I know you have this thought that you're going to potentially find
02:36:35Anettesomebody that can make you happy or whatever but in reality you don't know what the future holds and you don't know what your children are going to think or what your family's going to think or or anything and and that's the thing like
02:36:47Anettelike there's literally no case studies on if if people that are doing only fans consistently that don't have a partner that I could ever find a partner or find
02:36:56Brian AtlasI mean I think the the I mean it's it's it's what's the sorry guys I lost my train of thought I mean it's it's
02:37:05Brian Atlasself-evident uh men don't want to date women who are yeah but just because you have an only fans doesn't mean you're a I mean you are I'm sorry cuz there are people with fans
02:37:17Brian Atlasthat don't show everything F here let me let me revise let me hold on let me just revise my statement then since you you don't find my statement um satisfactory men don't want to date sex workers okay
02:37:30Mars Noirthat's generally speaking most men if you were to ask most men SE what's that what is so wrong with sex I didn't say that I didn't say that sex is wonderful is wonderful like it has to be under
02:37:43Brian Atlasthese guidelines under this part part of your life you're the one who says you get you can't hold a guy down for longer than two weeks because you get bored so clearly like God but what I'm trying to
02:37:54Brian Atlassay is there's clearly you you you even admitted yourself you said earlier on the show you're very picky that must mean that a guy has to meet XYZ criteria it happens to be the case for for us and
02:38:05Brian Atlasfor most men men are also allowed to have standards and I would argue one of those standards is we don't want to date women who have just when you talk about your standards it's so
02:38:16Jake (Rattlesnake TV)generalized majority can you can you listen your your reaction to our standards can you blame guys for not wanting to tell you to tell me can you blame guys for not telling you their
02:38:28Jake (Rattlesnake TV)standards when you react like this oh I don't think I'm reacting that crazy honestly you have denied reality time and time again when I've been telling when I've been telling you reality and then every time
02:38:39Jake (Rattlesnake TV)I you see me I'm reacting I'm getting real heated in here well I mean I mean unfortunately it's it's true and like you got to go to these surprised that the girl that wants to run away into the forest is not
02:38:52Mars Noiracknowledging reality like is that surprising like no offense right I think it's just like when I say my opinions I feel like I have more um like space for
02:39:04Mars Noiryours and I'm like I can hold mine and you can hold yours and I feel a lot on your side of the coin that it's more like you're doing something wrong you shouldn't be doing this so it's like well we all our own people our own
02:39:16Brian Atlasthings in life so like that's where it gets to be like a hey honestly I don't I don't give a if you do porn to be honest it's just like when we're having
02:39:25Brian Atlasa a live streamed dating discussion about relationship like yes the reality is like if you are engaged in these sort of things it's probably going to uh limit your pool of potential Partners I
02:39:37Brian Atlasmean that's just the reality for sure you see your point earlier that's not an opinion by the way that's just it's it's fact in the same way I can look up into the sky and tell you it's blue I don't need a study to tell you that the sky is
02:39:49Brian Atlasblue most men don't want to date sex workers like it's it is what it is in the same way that like most women don't want to date men who are shorter than them we don't need a study we could we
02:39:59Anettecould do a study so dumb why is it why why do you have to have sex online why can't you just go have sex with people like why does it need to be online and in front of like and also like yeah this
02:40:11Jake (Rattlesnake TV)is this is um one of the things with like that that I think that like especially feminism has done to the a lot of generations of women that's really rubbing off in the modern day as
02:40:21Jake (Rattlesnake TV)well is that there's just zero accountability like your um in your mind sorry it's okay Raven DT donated thank you brother thank Youk I would like to bet half of my net worth
02:40:34TTS Readerin addition to having to possibly pay Ransom to see my children on buying the floor model that's been test driven by hundreds of men and has over 200,000 miles over it it's just
02:40:46Brian Atlasit's just what's that it's just like test driven over 20 miles like what a weird way to think wait are you talking about only F or are you talking about body count what do you mean when he sounds like body count so he's like test driven it's like I mean it's body
02:40:58Mars NoirCount's pretty important it's just gross way to talk about human beings test driven but 200 miles on them like no but why is it gross to care about body count are are
02:41:11Mars Noiryou saying what he said is gross about it yeah what he said is gross what he said is gross well I think he's I think he's kind of using an analogy yeah it's a gross one otherwise he's going to say you too many
02:41:24Sammy Joepeople well back to sorry just to kind of switch a little bit back to your point of not having because of is so new there's no statistics on make it quick
02:41:36Sammy Joeplease because we've talked enough about is go but it's like sex work has been around for hundreds of thousands of years online andl what are you trying to say what do you
02:41:47Brian Atlasmean like the corn industry has been online since online was a thing so it's like where are those you know workers now and for all human history men have not wanted to wife up women who are
02:41:58Sammy Joeinvolved in sex work saying like statistics by it like there there probably are some statistics somewhere because sex work's not a new thing so like when the internet came out there was corn stars on the internet but
02:42:10Anetteporn is that are probably that probably have husbands and children now because they're not mainstream anymore is not personal porn is you're going on a website and you're clicking on a random
02:42:19Anettevideo o is you're paying a subscription to a specific person and and talking to them and asking them for specific things and asking them for it's way different
02:42:30Sammy Joeso they go go to the website and click a specific category so like because they subscribe to me because I'm a redhead doesn't mean that they're corn category that they select is redhead can you get interact with you they don't interact
02:42:42Brian Atlaswith the porn stuff I don't interact with every single person okay okay cool uh all right guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drops a follow drops the prime sub yo nub thank for the Prime reum thank for the prime 33 thank for the
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02:43:06Brian Atlasprime sub guys thank you thank you thank you um really quick uh one more thing with you I think oh it was the Tik Tok right we were reac to and so I said like but do
02:43:18Brian Atlasyou think that a guy who is able to support a family on one income is going to want to marry a girl who spent her I forgot can we pull up the Tik Tok really quick you know um Tik Tok said like her
02:43:31Brian Atlastelling her parents that she just wants to live off and be a bartender until somebody watch me explaining to my parents that I just want to bartend and live my stupid life little life until I get married and become a stay-at-home
02:43:42Kaydenmom um yeah wait you did you say that your current guy that you're dating he wants to do that with you yeah like that but why is it the situation predicament
02:43:53Kaydenright but he says he wants to he's sell I think he's selling you the dream to keep you around for easy access like I said a predicament um because I found that standard like I I found what I'd be
02:44:04Kaydenlooking for and everybody else so I'm terrified to leave because I'll be looking for that standard that I already so do you not want to do 50/50 you don't want to like equally contribute to the
02:44:14Kaydenhousehold income cuz you said stay at home mom right well that I think 50/50 is like you mean 50/50 financially yeah I do not want that because that means I
02:44:26Kaydenwould not be able to give everything to my kids that I want to give them okay that's fair um so like I think that maintaining a household is one responsibility and financial paying the bills is a
02:44:37Brian Atlaswhole other responsibility that's 50/50 in itself in a different kind of way to me sure typically yeah when I'm talking 50/50 to typ referencing like Financial contri to the hous the situationship he
02:44:49Kaydenmakes more than enough to cover everything financially so he's a high earner yes okay why is it a situationship still it's that's his choice ultimately it's my choice is he
02:45:02Kaydenseeing other women is he seeing other women no no what like I mean sexually no but like I don't I don't know what he's he's a flirt like yeah of course he's
02:45:13Kaydengoing out and sounds like he's other chicks quite possible but lucky for him I'm not asking like I
02:45:23Kaydenyou know it's he has the perfect situation for sure um I don't so I know it's like yeah yeah that's
02:45:33Brian Atlasthat's how it is but yeah I mean you're real yeah I appreciate the honest oh my God I'm just a girl I appreciate the honesty um yeah I just think for me at least like cuz cuz you're you are kind
02:45:44Brian Atlasof looking for a guy to fall into his traditional gender roles of being uh the provider right and I just think like not to bring it back here but again like if you want to like live your hot girl summer do the bartending thing or
02:45:57Brian Atlaswhatever live your best life typically like we translate that too you just want to sleep around basically like I see is
02:46:05Brian Atlasthat commensurate with what the guy who is prepared to offer you the you being a stay-at-home mom if he can financially provide that is that what the guy wants does he want to wife up a girl who has
02:46:18Kaydenthat background does he want to be the sole bread winner for that type of person you can find easily quit only fans you know well you you can quit only fans but there's
02:46:29Anettelike photos of you online sing yeah right are there there's video and photos of you online essing D yes essing the D essing the D yes there are so why would
02:46:40Brian Atlashe choose you versus somebody who hasn't done all of those things why was there has there been p in the v photos are there there's p in the v there's p in the v photos there's s in the D photos
02:46:51Kaydenyou know I was going to say it's free for a reason I keep them a different way you.
02:47:00Brian AtlasVIP okay all right convin to make I haven't sent the in a you put all the only fans girls in a row
02:47:12Brian Atlassilly Anya right Anya you say modern dating is terrible Unfaithful people girls and guys playing
02:47:21Brian Atlaseach other also sleeping around is so common it shouldn't be um your thoughts I mean going back to what I was saying about just like sex I mean like I'm
02:47:32Anyaagain comparing people to your partner is just it's so sad to me and it's like I mean cuz I've grew up Christian and my parents they they got baptized in the church and they met in the church and they didn't have sex with for marriage
02:47:45Anyaand I got to say my parents are probably the best example of a marriage I can say they I going see they' they never argue they're so respectful for each other and I'm like that's the example I want to live and I think most people should just see that and be like dang like if you
02:47:58Anyawant to be in a serious relationship and if you want a successful marriage I think even just living the by the Bible which I'm a Christian mean obviously not everyone is religious but for me living by the Bible is probably the best example and will leave you to a better
02:48:11Anyamarriage I mean it's it's statistically proven Christianity people who are Christian have better marriages and less divorce rates yep so can I ask how that's measured what do you mean like
02:48:21Jake (Rattlesnake TV)they just people the longevity of the marriages is longevity like that's how it's being measured yeah I mean because longevity and happiness are two different things you can't measure happiness you can't
02:48:34Jake (Rattlesnake TV)measure Happ that's the point I'm trying to make yeah you made the point of how Lord Merc and then we said we must stay focused Brothers we must stay focused oh here let me read this while
02:48:45Brian Atlasit's up yo grid did you have more by the way or was that okay okay yo grid one okay let's give the 30 a break for a second quick question for the panel if the man you were seeing wanted to move
02:48:55Brian Atlasto small rural Town live frugally maybe by a mini Farm what would your reaction be uh we'll go around the table I guess real quick on this you down I'm so down
02:49:06Mars Noiryeah it's I think should grid One Motorsports shoot you DM is yeah hit me up okay grid one is that what you're offering this is like looks going
02:49:16Mars Noirto go to Frugal small town and raise animals and plants together hey okay how do you feel with like toiling in the fields would you toil in the
02:49:27Brian Atlasfields I think you would be a good toiler would you toil what is the term toil to toil in the fields do you toil are you a toiler toil means work toil toil in the field he just keeps saying the
02:49:43Brian Atlasword D you toil would you to if grid won please help me if grid won Motorsports grid won Motorsports shot you DM and he was like
02:49:55Brian Atlaslisten I will give you this life but you're going to just be like milking cows all day oh you probably have some never
02:50:05Sammy Joemind practice you got some practice God I'm sorry I'm sorry sorry sorry you don't normally milk a cow with your mouth but that's illegal was I doing a mouth J
02:50:17Brian Atlasmean I'm soe I guess both work we're are the best by the way grid One Motorsports he once saved me we were on his racetrack he has a RAC TR one those like they gave
02:50:31Brian Atlasme a million this why we were friends in the beginning of the chat no he saved me her story no grid W Motorsports we were like racing right and uh it was like it wasn't like um exotic cars we were doing
02:50:43Anettelike more the what's called uh grid one Mo help me out it was the like Global time attack cars like a Miata yeah sorry let me listen it was like you know we were like voming right and I was
02:50:55Brian Atlaslike going around the bend and I was like a you Noob and he and like but he caught me right and then I spun out boom crashed into the wall the car lights on fire and he jumps out and he pulls me out