Hoe Math DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! | Dating Talk #113

Date: 2023-10-30

Duration: 5h 12m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMars Noir (DT113)>

KKayden (DT113)>

LLaura (DT113)>

AAngela (DT113)>

AAnette (DT113)>

HHTH (Hoe Math)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Anette(guest)

SPEAKER_03Sammy Joe(guest)

SPEAKER_04Anya(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kayden(guest)

SPEAKER_06Jake (Rattlesnake TV)(guest)

SPEAKER_07HTH (Hoe Math)(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Tate (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_11Laura(guest)

SPEAKER_12Angela(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mars Noir(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian Atlas opens show: "I am your host Brian Atlas"

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... I am your host Brian Atlas”

IntroAll guests introduce themselves: Sammy Joe (IFBB bikini pro, married), Mars Noir (25, OF), Kayden (24, bartender/OF), Laura (35, IFBB bikini pro/coach), Anya (18, Twitch/Christian), Angela (31, automotive), Anette (29, Hungarian nanny), Jake (Rattlesnake TV, Australian), HTH Hoe Math (anonymous video-in guest)

IntroHTH introduces himself as first ever video-in guest: "I am known as Hass" — keeps face and name hidden

“hello um I am known as Hass I'll keep my name quiet for the moment and my face”

Key MomentHTH tells story of girl who lived in his walk-in closet doing prostitution on Backpage — argues sex work creates emotional connection even transactionally

“I lived with a girl once... she was doing prostitution on back page... making it a transaction does not separate the emotional component from it”

QuoteHTH explains "alpha widow" concept: women get stuck on their highest setting and compare future men to their best past partner

“women kind of get stuck on your highest setting and if you've been with a guy who has a trait that we can't keep up with then you're going to be thinking about that guy forever”

Key MomentJake says Mars will always get bored with men because her laundry list keeps growing after too many experiences

“when you have those certain life experiences... it affects your relationships down the line”

QuoteAndrew Tate clip: "it's innocence that men find appealing... we want to be the female's portal to the world"

“it's innocence that men find appealing... if I meet a woman... the first jet you get on will be mine”

ControversyKayden reveals her taboo opinion: "cheating is inevitable and unavoidable 90% of the time and that's okay"

“my biggest hot take cheating is inevitable and unavoidable 90% of the time”

Key MomentBrian responds to Kayden's cheating take: if your girlfriend cheats on you, "you're dead man walking, if you have any dignity you walk and you never look back"

“my advice to men if your girl cheats on you that's a WAP the relationship is over”

Key MomentKayden reveals her situationship partner films and helps manage her OnlyFans: "he's not getting paid yet... he wants me to have all the money"

“he participates in the only fans he manes the only fans”

QuoteJake coins "alpha widowed" for Kayden: NFL/baseball player sex means future Kevin from accounting can't compare

“there's a thing called being Alpha widowed... once a girl has had a certain standard of man whether it be sexual partner or a relationship it's burned into her brain”

ControversyMars reveals she kissed a guy at a bar in Thailand then left to flirt with other men while he watched

“you kissed him at the bar that you wanted to go and flirt with the other men at”

Key MomentBrian reads Stiffler chat asking guests to rate their looks 1-10; all rate themselves 6-8

“ask everyone to write their looks on scale of 1 to 10 okay go”

TopicHTH wraps up video-in segment, recommends his YouTube video "Zones" (23 min) about male/female values

“I've got a 23 minute video on this about this on YouTube called zones”

ControversyChat questions if Laura is a man because she is tall and muscular; Laura clarifies she is a woman who works out

“people will be like are you a man and I'm just I'm tall and I work out”

QuoteBrian says most men don't want to date sex workers: "it's not I don't need a study to tell you that the sky is blue"

“most men don't want to date sex workers... I don't need a study we could do a study”

Key MomentBody count round: Sammy 9, Anya 0 (virgin), Angela 9, Anette ~9, Kayden ~20-something, Laura <10, Mars ~7 (guessed by Brian)

“what's everyone's body count... nine nine... I literally don't know it's like 20 something”

QuoteClosing: Brian thanks panel; notes Jake was "a great voice of reason"; announces Tuesday Halloween show

“rock and roll man well hey thank you for joining us uh guys go check out HTH on YouTube Tik Tok”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status round

All guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation. Brian goes around table asking relationship status, longest relationship, how long single. Notable: Kayden in 4-year situationship; Anette just cancelled engagement; HTH voluntarily celibate; Mars single 3 years.

OnlyFans and sex work debate

Extended multi-round debate on OnlyFans, sex work ethics, soul-selling, men's addiction to porn, spreading love vs. spreading lust, Kayden's situationship and OF business partnership with ex. HTH shares story of girl who lived in his closet doing backpage prostitution. Jake argues OF fuels addiction, not love. Mars defends as kink and valid transaction.

Andrew Tate clip: male innocence and travel as red flag

Video clip of Andrew Tate arguing men want to be a woman's portal to the world; traveling implies sexual history; innocence is what men find attractive. Panel reaction: Jake strongly agrees; Mars/Laura push back on nuance; Anette agrees man should open world to partner.

Body count and "hoe math" discussion

Brian asks what % of men women find attractive. Responses: Sammy 60% on apps; Mars 50-60% on apps; Laura 60-80% at Notre Dame; Anya 10% in person; Angela under 5%; Anette 1%. Shows hypergamy map illustration. Discussion on women only chasing top men.

HTH Hoe Math video-in segment: hypergamy and attraction dynamics

First-ever video-in guest on show. HTH presents drawn illustrations: hypergamy map showing women only attracted to top men; male visibility/invisibility concept; women getting stuck on highest setting (alpha-widow). Discussion on "zones" video on YouTube. Technical difficulties with delay.

Kayden pre-show notes: breakup story, D1 athletes, sugar daddy, only fans

Brian reads Kayden's submitted notes. Story of high school sweetheart (military, bought ring, she cheated with 3 guys, dramatic breakup by phone). D1 athletes (MLB, NFL player), trappers (drug dealers), sugar daddies. Kayden's taboo opinion: cheating is inevitable 90% of the time. Panel debate on cheating, monogamy, open relationships.

Mars pre-show notes: non-traditional dating, boredom after 2 weeks, Twitter reactions

Brian reads Mars's submitted notes about non-traditional dating philosophy, not believing in ownership in relationships, supporting each other in all life experiences. Discussion of Mars's tweet "why do all boys get so boring after like 2 weeks." Story of kissing guy at bar in Thailand then leaving to flirt with other men. ~20-30 first dates in 2023.

Self-ratings (looks 1-10)

Stiffler chat donation asks everyone to rate themselves 1-10. Anya: 7-8; various others: 7-7.5; Mars: 6-6.5; Angela: 7; Laura: 7.5. Chat rates Laura 8.54/10.

Brian's partner preferences

Brian lists what he looks for: slight preference for white/Asian women, petite/short, dark hair, no plastic surgery (near deal-breaker), introverted/quiet/modest/nerdy, no kids (90% deal-breaker), age 18-45, doesn't party/drink/drugs, low body count, brings peace. Career doesn't matter.

Sugar daddy discussion

Brian asks who has had a sugar daddy. Kayden: yes (Seeking Arrangements, age 19, ~5 meetups at $200 each, coffee and his house, kissed but did not have sex). Mars: sometimes feels like sugar mama in her relationships. Discussion on why sugar daddies exist (lonely, companionship).

Green flag hobbies and partner preferences roundtable

Chat asks about green flag hobbies for men. Women cite: gaming if managed, working on cars, being active, gym, carpentry, cooking, loves God, respects parents, personal finance, reading. For women: reading, studying, household activities. Laura on HRT (testosterone) revealed; chat questions if she is a man.

Body count round and closing discussion

Brian asks everyone's body count. Sammy: 9; Anya: 0 (virgin); Angela: 9; Anette: ~9; Kayden: ~20-something; Laura: less than 10; Mars: ~7 (guessed); Brian: won't say. Discussion on whether body count matters. Anette says before marriage count should be zero.

Transcript

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Sammy Joegoing to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead hello my name is Sammy Joe I an ifbb bikini Pro an online coach posing coach and a

Mars Noircontent creator as well welcome Hey I'm Mars Noir I'm 25 and I do only

Laurafans I'm Kayden I'm 24 um and I'm a bartender and only fans Creator I'm Laura I'm 3 5 and I'm also an ifbb bikini Pro and I'm a full-time Fitness

Anyaand online bodybuilding coach no o right no okay got it hi my name is Ana I'm 18 and I'm a twitch

Angelastreamer hi my name is Angela uh I work in the automotive industry I'm 31 years old hello my name is Anette I'm 29 years old and I work as a nny because I'm a

Brian Atlaskindergarten teacher where you from Hungary Hungary and uh how so you're just in sand or excuse me you're just in California for a couple weeks yes yes

Brian Atlasyes are you nanny for like a wealthy family or yeah we can say that okay are they are they also Hungarian or are they American it's a French American couple

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)french American couple okay all right Jake rattlesnake TV 28 years old are we doing relationship status not not yet no okay we'll save that and you were

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)recently where I was in Thailand just came here two days ago so extremely jetlagged so if I'm a little bit brain foggy I gotta fix the mic here wait sorry the thing the little thing was popped off slightly yeah so if I'm a

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)little bit brain foggy I do apologize but we'll get through it what were you doing in Thailand just training a bit of Muay Thai I was in Co mu for a little while riding motorbikes eating cheap food nice and various other things any

Brian Atlasuh lady boys I told you before the show we're not sure sure there are lady boys but not for me unfortunately okay got it and

Brian Atlasthen our uh our first ever video in guest why don't you uh introduce yourself name age occupation hello um my I am known as

HTH (Hoe Math)Hass I'll keep my name quiet for the moment and my face um age I am on my way out of the dating market I'll leave it at that and occupation I complain

Brian Atlasabout things on the internet for money full-time starting very recently nice okay very good by the way since this is our first time doing a video in can the chat give us a little quick

Brian Atlasfeedback how was the audio from HTH was it was it okay was it a bit too loud was it uh peeking at all or is the audio okay one in the chat if the audio is okay two in the chat maybe if it was

Brian Atlaspeing a little bit or if it was uh to maybe too loud but I I think we have it pretty good so um sweet so we're going to go around the table once more so what is your current relationship status so

Brian Atlasare you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship marri poly cool sex cult Harum if there's anything else that I missed um what if you're single how long

Brian Atlashave you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead I'm married and my longest relationship is my current one of six years six years okay and uh you're sorry

Mars NoirI missed the age for you I'm 27 I forgot to say 27 okay got it um I'm single I've been

Mars Noirsingle is is for like 3 years cuz I date a lot um and my longest relationship was three and a half years you you've been single is for 3 years because you date a

Mars Noirlot or well like is yeah cuz like I I go out I me people but I haven't like been locked down in a while for sure in three years in three years which is crazy to

Mars Noirthink about I broke up with my like big ex-boyfriend right before I went to like backpack for a month and a half he was obese what huh did I say that no you

Mars Noirsaid big big ex-boyfriend oh I was like it was a big everyone question me on that and I never changed my lingo it's just like the big ex like your longest relationship okay sorry I just that's

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)where my mind goes my obese booyfriend you break up with him to go backpacking or you broke up because it was time and that was a good moment to do it you know

Kaydenlike all right done and now I'm off you know yeah fair enough I gu yeah um I'm technically single but I'm in a bit of a situationship with my ex

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)for sure technically single yeah we are not boyfriend and girlfriend but you're in a it's a situationship okay never understand what

Brian Atlasthat word means really quick coming back to you you've been single for 3 years in that threeyear period uh what's the longest period of time that you've been with a guy maybe a situationship or a

Brian Atlasshort-term friends with Ben whatever it may be what's the longest period of time that you've been seeing ay in the past 3 years okay embarrassing probably like a month just one month yeah I had a joke

Mars Noirwith my friends that I'm like a two weaker you know a two weaker yeah I like to kind of get to know people and then like shift around I don't see myself really interested in having like a

Mars Noirlong-term partner right now okay and so I like just meeting people and going out and the whole thing you know okay all right okay are you the one who normally

Mars Noirbreaks it off and moves about yeah um never been broken up with before is that a flex a flex like a little like little Flex you've never been broken up with

Brian Atlasbefore never no okay all right okay what about uh oh did you finish on your relationship s you said you've been single uh long

Kaydenlongest relationship um the situationship that currently in yeah you're technically single we've been together for like four years wow five

Brian Atlasalmost but you're technically single but you've been together for 4 years but it's a situationship is it on again off again yes yeah okay I would call it that for sure so how long have you been

Brian Atlastechnically single a few months like since like when's the last time you saw the guy uh like two days ago but you've been Technic you saw him two days ago but you

Kaydentechnically single for a few months yeah what makes you technically single um he doesn't want to be my boyfriend I don't want to be his girlfriend you no it's that yeah so it's like

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)exclusive what's the point of putting a at the end of it if it's not you don't want to be together at all well I think it's the title he he like doesn't want the title so it's like a relationship without what's the point of there being any title at all this what I

Sammy Joedon't get about situationship yeah I well I don't really they used to situationship is you're also inclus not exclusively seeing other people right like we are you could you if you wanted to you

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)could yeah I feel like like he has encouraged me as soon as something better comes along for you or for him it's it's done I hate to think yes like maybe I don't know at least you guys are

Angelahonest are you afraid exactly are you afraid of being heartbroken or what's the reason if I can ask no I'm like I don't know I'm a tough girl so what do you mean I don't tough girl what do you

Kaydenmean like I don't know that I've ever been heartbroken like sad for sure like this is like my like I bounce back like that like no but like damn very sad at

Kaydenthe thought of losing him like this is like my best friend so it's like hard to say goodbye for sure so we'll like break up and then just still keep hanging out like perhaps yeah so so you don't want to be with him he's like your best

Kaydenfriend and you bounce back like that okay like I would if he wanted to be my boyfriend I would be his girlfriend but oh gu but he doesn't want it girlfriend well that sounds sounds like a

Kaydensituationship if I've ever exactly exactly there's just no so much yeah we're all going to have questions iar are you dating other other

Kaydenpeople no I'm not so but you've been in this situationship for four years we like no we were full on together for like I think this is our second break

Kaydenthis is our second breakup like break up who broke up with who it was Mutual okay so we got together when I was in college he moved out to LA um during Co and we

Kaydenwere like okay like we'll ended here um and then I just kept flying out to see him and he would come see me in in the city so it just never ended would he fly

Kaydenout to see you yeah yeah yeah he would so I'd see him like every other month and then we eventually kind of got back together like there literally would be a point where I'd be like so am I your a

Kaydengirlfriend yet are you my boyfriend he'd be like no and then one day he was just like yeah he has commitment issues I'm sorry don't

Kaydenbe maybe doing some extracurricular behavior on the side ignorance is bliss in in my eyes so atast not know I'd rather not know

Kaydenhonestly during the time that you've dated him have you seen any other guys um during our first breakup yeah I did and he like told me he was seeing people

Kaydenout here too I was back in Chicago so um sh Town yeah well I was still living in my college town actually but yeah yeah so he was seeing other people I was kind like not really seeing other people but

Kaydendo you think it would hurt you if he found out he was seeing other people now depends on in what context like sleeping with other people no doesn't really bother me but if he were like full on

Brian Atlasdating another girl yeah I'd be sad just a question for you two you both do only fans what kind of content do you do on there BG boy girl content girl girl what do you Soo BG I have boy girl content

Mars Noirthough I don't really make it I say like less than a handful of videos over my career career okay um yeah mostly just

Brian Atlaslike cute pictures well can I say like naked can I say that word uh yeah I

Brian Atlasguess yeah that's fun I take naked pictures and I put them on online Haram okay um but so you've done boy boy

Mars Noirgirl content you shot content with guys just one guy or multiple guys or um multiple guys the most of my content is with one guy there's this couple in Vegas that I really lik working with I

Mars Noirhave Johnny s is he in Vegas Johnny s he asked to shoot with me but we never shot but um you have Jack and Jill no IA very Niche there's a lot of people in the

Kaydenindustry yeah what about you uh I do BG solo content only only with my ex oh so the you're yeah he's he's my uh my content partner yeah content partner only fans partner have you shot any

Brian Atlascontent with other guys or just him never just you do have you do have content with you do do content with men yeah yeah but one man okay with him yeah gotcha do you do off2 or oh you have O2

Brian AtlasI have it yeah but you are you trying to phas it out or no I still it's my business is up and running and CH and then you two are you doing boy girl content boy girl content yes with your husband I I assume have you done content

Sammy Joewith other men no other women but not men other women solo women and then no other men okay got it and does he do anything sorry go ahead go ahead with

Brian Atlaswith other women um if we're together yes like the three like a threesome that in that sense yes cute okay uh well let's get we'll try to get through everybody's uh relationship status

Laurabefore we dig too deep go ahead sure so I've been single for about 3 months months and my longest relationship was three and a half years three months three and a half years why did he dump

Laurayou sorry so sorry that's assumptions though okay okay the the most recent relationship um he actually he did initiate the breakup but ultimately um it just wasn't working the

Lauralifestyle of a bikini Pro bodybuilder it's a lot and he wasn't really supportive of it so even though he liked how I looked and loved the fact that he was dating a tall you know bikini

Brian Atlascompetitor he wasn't really how tall are you by the way I'm six feet tall six feet okay yeah so he was he a little bit are you like 51 and a half and you're just like claiming you know like how guys do that I I'm kind of started

Laura511 and 34 without you can I guess you can okay yeah I'm not on dating apps but when I was I realized guys round up so I needed to round up cuz if I said I was 5'11 and I showed up on a date with a guy who was

Brian Atlas5'11 he was actually kind of 5'9 a lot the time sh I like to say I'm 63 in heels okay yeah you know I'm also six in heels Bas yeah wow good times was he a bodybuilder as well no no so he didn't

Laurahave a fitness lifestyle at all so it was it was really hard and he was he was more of an entrepreneur and um I think he was going through some stuff mentally because he was very successful but he would spend a lot of his time like

Lauraduring the day just and he was um you know he was a single dad so it was the first guy I dated with kids he' spend a lot of time just in his apartment like drinking beer smoking weed like just under the bus he goes I don't know no I

Lauramean he's he was a good guy and I mean we were really building life together so it's it's sad that every time I've seen like a competitive bodybuilding girl theyve always been dating an absolute gorilla yeah so I think that's that's what I realiz is I don't need to date a

Brian Atlasgorilla necessarily but I need someone who at least values and has a sim a more similar lifestyle to me yeah it's important you did you say you felt like he wasn't there for you towards the end of the relationship or he wasn't

Laurasupportive of your yeah like do you expect him to like kind of do like rice and like cookie rice and chicken type of stuff no I didn't expect I actually I meal prepped for him a time oh you meal prepped for oh W okay so I just you know when we're I mean Samy's a bikini Pro

Lauratoo and that's we know each other can can we see a double Buy on oh wait I think hold on let me let me put it Center my nice solid yeah um yeah I'm

Lauranot dieting or anything right now um off no so yeah dirty bulk no not dirty lean bulk females we can't dirty buk that's a disaster um real bodybuilders don't dirty

Laurabulk I'm on the I'm on the dirty bulk right now just that's a per bulk yeah so um no it just it got it got really tough because you know I kind of

Laurasat him down when I did start dieting this spring for shows and I said look you don't need to you don't need to be a bodybuilder I don't want to change you but I'm going to be really busy and so just sometimes come to the gym with me

Laurasometimes hang out with me when I'm meal prepping and he just we never were really able to spend time together once I got busier and it just got it just got harder and harder and I got more and more tired you know more and more hungry and it's it's hard to keep a relationship going if you're not seeing

Anyaeach other and you don't have that quality time got it got it what about you longest relationship I think was a year and I've been single for about six

Anettemonths month okay one year all right what about you um I am in a very new relationship uh but my

Brian Atlaslongest relationship is probably about 4 years years and I also am divorced you're divorced got it okay um how long were you married for was it the four year no was it

Brian Atlasthe uh probably about a Vegas marriage eight months yeah okay and you said you're newly in a relationship how long have has that been like a month one month

Anetteokay all right uh so for what the divorce what happened there um I unfortunately was going through a lot of medical problem problems and it kind of put me in a

Anettereally bad place I was on a child drug and it uh unfortunately caused some really bad side effects and uh they became too much for him and he couldn't

Anettebe there for me and support me because it was just a lot on him mentally as well um so we parted waste what what was the uh trial drug if you don't mind me

Anetteasking um it's called oral Lissa uh it's for endometriosis and uh BAS basically the they're using it right now to

Anettecastrate and help do uh gender reassignment okay um so uh it causes a lot of side effects and unfortunately

Anettethat's not something that they talk about and it's also the liquid version of it is used to treat cancer patients um of I believe it's like prostate

Anettecancer um in men so yeah a lot of different uses for that drug it was passed I was in uh the stage three part of the trial which is like the stage right before it like gets approved by

Anettethe FDA so okay are you better now or uh I am um I it took a lot of hard work uh I mean I

AnetteI'm still taking actions every day to get better um but I would say in the last like two years I've really made a huge amount of progress um so glad to

Anettesay I have my life back all right it's a nasty one in the M oh yeah and I unfortunately have like the most advanced form so what about

Angelayou I should think of it uh yeah I don't really want to say so much about uh my past because I'm not that proud of that

Angelauh but I was close to get married and uh yeah just about one month before the wedding uh I I said no it's

Angelanot going to work and I'm just thankful for this decision and I guess it saved my life wait hold on there's a lot there so what's your current relationship status

Brian Atlasjust to start I'm dating someone you're uh how long have you been dating a week one week but you're traveling right now right so how did you is this a

Brian Atlaslongdistance relationship or it's going to it's going to be it's going to be a long-distance relationship for a while have you met this person in in person of

Angelacourse I did where Paris he's the he's your he's a relative of the family

Angelathought Rel of yours wait so he's the your employer no no no no no no no

Angelano relative the mom's cousin the mom's cousin oh okay so you met him once no more times times does he know that you're dating as well it's signed off

Angeladoes he know that you're in a relationship with him what what no no no no no I hope not she's not going to know it no no no no no no cuz sometimes you eting Europe pan girls you know just

Brian Atlasslaugh no no no no no no I I date only him I don't know where I said something stupid does he know that you're in a relationship with him with him like yeah

Brian Atlasyeah he knows okay so relationship on week you said longest relationship was what like for years years three years okay and uh

Brian Atlasyou said you don't want to talk a lot about your past because you said you made mistakes mhm what we talk that's

Angelathe most interesting thing to talk about I just think that uh being a Bo boyfriend girlfriend it's it just I don't know I think there's more in a

Angelarelationship not just this there's there's higher rank in a relationship and the value of a person can be

Angelameasured by how we call them like friend stranger bus driver homie whatever and um

Brian Atlashomie uh so yeah I think like this okay okay um and in your pre-show notes to us you said you were a Conservative Christian is that correct have you

Angelaalways been Conservative Christian no not uh I was uh my family is Christian but there was a period of time when I

Angelawasn't with the Lord so this is why I'm not proud of that and uh I just want to restore my relationship with God sure and this is what this guy supports me

Angelaand also he shares the same views uh and I just feel feel blessed by him are you waiting until marriage yes to for sex yes I'm going to

Brian Atlaswait so are you it wasn't always like this oh okay so you're not not a virgin yes I'm not s do you consider yourself a born again virgin yes yes is that a is that a is that a thing can you be

Angelaa I Think Jesus died for your Purity not for that piece of cell that you have there uh so I think if you can be clear

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)in your heart and soul uh it can work out okay and it's good to adopt those values is anyway regardless you know you're from Hungary which is a based

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)country Victor Orban is a fantastic president thank you thank you great conservative country so it makes sense based you said that you were engaged but

Angelathat you cancelled 28 days before the wedding what happened there it was just not right you I don't know if you've ever had this feeling that it's not good it's not good I should get out of it but

Angelayou still had this feeling to do it do it do it but then I was like no no it got to an end and uh yeah I don't want

Angelato say bad things about him or anything it was just not right it was not from God it was it could be the biggest mistake of my life and uh I'm just so so

Angelaso so lucky to be out of that was it Andrew Tate no that's not from God for sure for if you see it sorry no but I

Angelalike you oh no no not like that not like that not like as a man but uh yeah there are very good uh viewpoints he's sharing so okay yeah all

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)right what about you same as last time unfortunately I mean single and ready to mingle so yeah okay not really too much different over here longest relationship a year and a half year and

Brian Atlasa half okay back in the and we have HTH uh M tell us your relationship status I am single and not prepared to

HTH (Hoe Math)mingle whatsoever I'm avoiding people as much as possible right now I think they call that Vol cell voluntary celibate you're a vol cell you're voluntarily celibate okay kind of I mean I'm just

HTH (Hoe Math)not putting in any effort I deleted all the apps I moved out of the city and into the woods and I'm just like going on walks by myself not with anyone else

HTH (Hoe Math)and uh I don't know if I'm ever going to like move again and try again and go out and talk to people I'm taking a breath and right now I am only interacting

Brian Atlaswomen with women through homef and so I'm kind of just checking out people all over the country seeing how that goes and so you're doing you're talking like consultation type stuff or are women

HTH (Hoe Math)sliding into your DMs this women slide into the DMS yeah they say they like my voice and like women will say that they're attracted to me and they haven't seen my face and I think that's crazy but I'll take it

HTH (Hoe Math)and and then I just go see what's up with that and then you know someone's going to fly up here eventually probably and they like your down there they like your art style too is that you know they

Brian Atlaspeople always no one ever says that they don't like it it's it's it's a it's a very quick and easy art style but people say oh you're a great artist yeah I appreciate it thank you now so we went around the table we asked everybody

Brian Atlastheir relationship status um was there anything that anybody said that kind of that that we can reference any of your either

Brian Atlasexisting art pieces for sure or for is this a fresh drawing that you just made by the way this I'm just taking notes on who said what so I can yeah so I can

Brian Atlasrespond Nick can you can we oh sorry Nick can you show us the bigger Discord window if you if you unhide let's see that click it okay so this I think that looks if we need to see it that yeah I

Brian Atlasthink that works um okay cool Nick you can bring it you can hide that one but um oh okay yeah I'm full screen but yeah do you have did you have any thoughts on any of the

Brian Atlassituations uh you know that we got we got the technically single for for four years but the you know did you have any things that came to mind uh sure sure i'

HTH (Hoe Math)I've got a few questions all around um technically single I mean that was the one where you said that you would date him if he wanted to right yeah

HTH (Hoe Math)yeah so that's I mean we have kind of like a designation for that we I mean I have like I have uh uh I don't know if you guys are familiar with my work I I make these silly little drawings Nick do

HTH (Hoe Math)you want to go full screen for I think I think that you're just sort of Landing in this area right here like you would be the keeper if you could be but he doesn't want you to be would you say

HTH (Hoe Math)that that's right yeah yeah I would so why do you do that to yourself you know the chances of him changing his mind are

Kaydenreally really low Nick I well I mean I'm like I'm very independent so like I live on my own I'm happy to be on

Kaydenmy own so the fact that I enjoy my time with him and he is like my best friend I feel like I'm just enjoying the time that I do have with him in whatever

Kaydencontext whatever capacity um so I like I would like to be a mother someday not necessarily a wife like that's not even I don't ever need to get married I just want kids in a house to take care of I

Brian Atlaswant to be a little it's the future it's what we're doing now I understand that and he's like he might be that you know you had a kind of a reaction to what she said what what specifically did she say that you

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)well it's it's a gigantic red flag when somebody says that they want to be a mother but not a wife because it means that you're looking for a guy to give you his seed and then if you don't want to be his wife then he's on the hook for child support and he's basically not

Kaydengoing to be able to see his kid you're going to take his money that's that's what comes to our head when we he that so I should have it's not that I don't want to be a wife it's like my whole life I pictured being a

Kaydenmother a caraker like a housewife but I just marriage in itself like sharing taxes and all that I don't need to do all that like a long-term partner that lives with me I want a partner you want

Kaydena man to give you a child but you don't want to be a wife I I would be a wife I'd be a really good wife yeah yeah yeah but like it's just not necessary exactly children are the leg side of things

Brian Atlasisn't necessary I age the Govern getting involv I agree with that interesting interesting uh Jay did you have a response to that yeah I

HTH (Hoe Math)mean how does that fit into your overall life plan is one thing I do is I do kind of life coaching and I just check on where people are going overall and I think that's something a lot of people are doing is thinking just like about

HTH (Hoe Math)right now what they're doing and what feels good and you know this is something that women have done with over and over again is they kind of throw themselves into my life and they go I'm enjoying it right now and I go well it's never going to go beyond that and they

HTH (Hoe Math)sort of wait to see if it does or if someone else wants to do something with them and especially if the other guys see that she's hanging out with me they're less inclined to do that and it's kind of like I feel like you're

Kaydensabotaging yourself perhaps um I I don't know my parents got married had kids really young so they always encouraged me to just wait and

Kaydenenjoy my youth and travel and you know enjoy life on my own so I'm like more than happy to do that right now I don't

TTS Readernecessarily have a life plan like I oh hold on just GD One Motorsports donated $99 fear is the spare change that will keep you broke much like continuing to

TTS Readerchase after a man that uses you for sex and just has to be your best friend in return I like that what word word uh yo grid one good to see you in the chat man

Brian Atlasthank you very much that was poetic dude thank you that that was beautiful can you send one like as a hi coup please because I'm trying to um go ahead I think you were finishing a thought oh gosh I think I was finish I have a

Lauraquestion for you do you feel like is there any part of you that feels like you don't deserve what you want like you don't deserve to be a wife and a mother and have all those things to tap into childhood trauma yeah

Kaydenfor sure like yeah I definitely yeah feel like yeah I just yeah yeah do you think the

Kaydenis do you think the O might be putting like a strain on your relationship no like that is like sex is like the start of our like a base of our a pillar of

Brian Atlasour relationship so that's that's not healthy well wait you're your only fans is the pillar no not my only fans sex I have with this man like oh that's that's

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)the pillar a pillar a oh one of the pillars like that's just at the fact that other people get to see it do you think that that's an issue you think that he might be really enjoying the sex but then when it comes to the long-term

Kaydenpoint of view that might be a disqualifier no he I mean like he participates in the only fans he manes the only fans what would he get out of making it exclusive like what extra

Kaydenbenefit would he get I I don't know I'm giving him all the benefits already so I like I

KaydenI while I don't agree with his mindset I totally understand it like you know I would love to be the wife and do all the things but like I understand that he if he told you delet it tomorrow mean

Sammy Joeyou're giving him all of those wife things without being the without having the title he told you to delete it tomorrow and he said that we can be together you just got to delete your

Brian Atlasonly fans would you do it yeah okay as long as he's paying the bills you know because that's paying the bills now does he get money from your off no but you

Kaydensaid if we if we reach a right if we reach a certain profit then he would but we're not there I get to he's not just in the videos he's also helping you manage it too right that's a new thing

Kaydenwe're officially business partners but he's not getting paid yet or no it's he doesn't want the money he wants me to have all the money currently so he's not a business partner he's a helper yeah I

Angelasuppose then that you give what that all that you give to him what was that what you give to him except you know having

Kaydensex all these like I mean cook for him clean his space do his laundry all the things that I enjoy to do I'm like a no we don't I'm like a total caretaker as a

Kaydenperson like I just that's the only passion I really have in life is taking care of other people so like I love this man and I love like I get joy out taking care of him niia whiteus 50 dkp donated

TTS Readeryou the disc really quick while sappi en large damage location fly into great Sky use liquid water Elemental turn man into frozen dinosaur hide behind statue would any of the girls date a guy who plays

Brian AtlasWorld of Warcraft thank you um we'll go around the table really quick on this uh would any of the girls date a guy who plays World of Warcraft 20 plus hours a week

Sammy Joeif he was still successful in a career and had goals and passion then sure I don't see I'll play isue what about you um yeah if they can like manage their

Kaydentime and their Hobbies I love video games I just finished balers Gate 3 and so I think I could be down yeah I feel the exact same way like yeah sure if that's your hobby and you have other

Sammy Joeinterests or income then yeah like 20 hours a week is kind of a lot that honestly though for like a MMO RPG that's kind of rookie numbers yeah I

Sammy Joeinvested like 12 twitcher and I stream what three times a week and I collectively stream at least 5 hours so that's 15 hours in a week that I'm just

Sammy Joespending on stream and not a lot gets done like like in the grand scheme of it so playing a video game for 20 hours a week if if you're like in a hardcore rating Guild you're playing like 7 hours

Brian Atlasa day that's even 7 hours a day that's like rookie numbers especially like if you're leveling up like if you're trying to get to 60 like if it's a freshh fresh server like you want to put put in like 10 12 hour days and then if you're like

Brian Atlasranking in the PVP system which they recently revamped but like the old old days like the OG ranking system you know you you do like 16 hour days and you're just in like you're an AV War song Gulch

Sammy Joelike maybe trying to fit in like are you the gamer that did you ask this question no that's not me chat yeah his own just want once

Lauratheod what what about you um it's a it's a red flag I would say if it was their full-time job like their twitch streamer and they're playing World of Warcraft and that's how they make their money just a hobby I guess Pro if it's just a

Anyahobby yeah 20 hours is like hobby territory for a it it would be tough if it wasn't consuming their life then okay maybe I can make that work yeah same if it's Su consuming their life like I play video games so that's not a problem at

Angelaall yeah it wouldn't be a problem I also play video games okay I think if there's anything sexual or uh violent in that uh

Angelavideo game he shouldn't even play it so no GTA you can take girls in the back of the car s in San Andreas I I appreciate the effort that they people took in uh

Brian Atlasyou know ranking up going higher level but I don't consider it as a job as a work or um yeah World of Warcraft there's not really anything sexual but like there's RP servers like role playing servers and sometimes those

Angelapeople like like will role play weird I know and it really it helps with a lot skills to De develop and and it can it have good things but I still don't support video games no yeah but if

Anetten if your guys is on their phone and they see sexual stuff as they're scrolling I mean what's really the difference if you spend why would you see first first of all on Instagram cuz it's on your for you page

Angelayour for you page anything on the algorithm can pop up but you can close your eyes and you can also scroll on and and that's what I do I just close my eyes no no

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)right away every time I see anything pop up yeah no so we have a magnet on our finger sometimes that draws us to the titties yeah click it sometimes

AngelaAriel no the algorithm is clever of course it's going to have naked pictures whatever but it can you know just pass by pass by okay all right sometimes you

Brian Atlasdouble beautiful maget double beautiful all right uh HTH did you have anything else did you want to add anything or how how if you're playing 20 hours of video

HTH (Hoe Math)games a week and you have a full-time job when do you have time for anything else like what are you cutting out how much sleep are you cutting out to have any of you ever dated a guy who plays 20 hours of video games a week beaten

Brian Atlascheeks donated depend on toool these girls one sec food

TTS ReaderSEC on the girls you need need to go to columia o f girls not you s delusional especially the poor liberal beta that

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)falls and marries you L for the Harlot yeah beating cheeks now think be cheeks I think I've got you on Twitter so yeah um yeah Thailand is an Al for the girls

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)in Thailand because some of them have little penises between their legs so you got to be very careful but Columbia is good but it's actually not the best I actually don't really rate Colombian girls that much because they're very

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)very sort of like materialistic Eastern Europe is the way to go Hungarian girls are my actual favorite so I'm not just saying that promise you hungar Hungarian girls are just sort of in between Russian and Italian and I

HTH (Hoe Math)like them both but if there's a nice in between you know so Hungarian we're kind of like shopping the planet for women um did you want to come back you said you wanted to come back to something what's your name sorry Kaden

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)Kaden it seemed like we were picking on you a bit before but I think the point that we were making is and and HTH I think nailed it when he said that you're in that sleeper Zone MH you seem to be

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)showing loyalty to this guy you said you cook you clean you do his laundry all of these things that we appreciate you're a lovely girl you seem clever the one thing that's keeping you in the sleeper zone is that you have your body on the

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)internet and whether or not he tells you that cuz he he won't tell you that but that that mark my words that is what it is that's what disqualifies it because men we like we care about how we look in public and if he to introduce you and say oh this is my girlfriend she does

Kaydenonly fans then that's going to be embarrassing so you've got all of the you you you tick all these boxes then that last one but we've been together since before I did only fans and his state of mind has not changed it has

Sammy Joebeen consistent and if he was that against it why would he partake in it andit he's disqualified from the long-term relationship though but they were in Rel it for his own interest yeah

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)so he's only okay with it because he gets the sexual pleasure out of it but not so she's just said that he she would be with him if it weren't for If he if

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)he didn't resist so if she wants to be with him but she doesn't but he doesn't want to be with her and she ticks all these boxes they've been in a relationship before the disqualifying Factor would be the only fans or is it that he has commitment issues well you

Sammy Joecan you don't know him so the only thing that you're basing it off of is what you know about her you know nothing about him so he could have hard commitment issues I don't either say let let to generalizations then so what we're

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)speaking about here and I'm sure that Brian could attest is that guys automatically dis disqualify girls generalizing obviously you're married so congratulations thank you but guys tend to disqualify girls when they have their

Anettebody online yeah cuz I mean you can't take it back like in their eyes that's theirs they want it for their eyes only and now that you've put it out there no granted yeah you he was with you before

Anettethat but but obviously now he's not with you and and the only thing that's you know in our eyes is really changed is a really big factor and that's your body is now on the internet and you can never

Angelatake that back yeah and you share it and I guess you don't only share your body but those people are watching and they are sending that energy to you so you even share your soul because it's so

Sammy Joeintimate it's it's not just that it's a picture it's see but people have the ability to remove emotion from that but the like the conversations that I have

Sammy Joewith people are you know a a platonic relationship that I have with some who's on the internet that would just be like you know uh Brian and beaten cheeks for example friends on the internet think the people who subscribed to your only

Sammy Joefans would you call that a platonic friend I mean I don't call it a boyfriend or a serious relation I have no control what the person on the other side I'm there for there's a service or a something that

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)I'm providing how the other person on the other side is taking it is from their persp absolutely I'm putting it out there for them to buy so that's not platonic platonic means that there's no

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)sexualization and that's inherently sexual what you're talking about but it's not more than what the transaction is if I have a friend if me and Brian were friends and he started sending me nudes I would be like Brian doesn't want

Sammy Joethis platonic friendship he actually does that so this this is i that's the same that's the same concept of someone thinking that like you go to a strip club and you buy a dance they automatically assume that that stripper in love with

TTS Readerthem it's not one sec one sec one sec women fool themselves to what men will put up with for easy sex when something better comes along he will follow all things are

Brian Atlaspossible through Christ but no man can save you here you will not save yourself be better have self-respect yo grid one thank you very much man appreciate it um I want to try home math let's get you in

HTH (Hoe Math)here what you got for us what you got for us home math I mean I'm just trying to cut in with basically like I I I got to agree with the the European accent girl I'm sorry I didn't

HTH (Hoe Math)get your name that there is something there's something spiritual there's something emotional that connects you to these people who are seeing you in sexual situations just when they think about it when they say the images of it

HTH (Hoe Math)when they have the feelings that they feel um I lived with a girl once uh I'll tell you a little short little story I lived with a girl who I found out was uh like I let her move into my closet it's

HTH (Hoe Math)all I had I had a space for her to live in in a walk-in closet and she was just you know not she Liv in the closet is this like Harry Potter it's kind of like Harry Potter yeah she was doing witch stuff too she was had like crystals and

HTH (Hoe Math)all that and um she was just not doing great and I had extra space so I let her live with me it wasn't a sexual romantic relationship I found out that she was like uh doing prostitution on back page and I as I got to know her more and more

HTH (Hoe Math)I saw that it was affecting her emotionally making it a transaction does not separate the emotional component from it and even if it's subtle and you know on only fans on the internet even if it's more subtle form of it because

HTH (Hoe Math)you're not actually touching or meeting the people it still is there it still is there is some part of your Deeper Self that you are selling is a transaction but what if so what if you would consider the act that you're doing more

Sammy Joeof you know people have kinks and Fantasies and so what if the act that you're doing is actually a kink and it's so like recording yourself right 99 we'll come back any advice on dating for

TTS Readera guy who is on a drug for panic disorder nadil I have Ed an orgasmia from this drug and it's frustrating but the drugs are necessary for me to function in daily life on dating for a

Brian Atlasguy who's on a drug for well I mean it seems like the drug is impairing your sexual function so um but that doesn't preclude you from dating obviously you can have relationship are you able to

Anettehave sex are you able to do other things but um I have actually experience on this I'm sorry I know that's like weird yeah go ahead if you want to answer it quick my most recent ex-boyfriend

Anetteactually had uh an ed damn throw him under the holy um genuinely I just honesty is best

AnetteI don't know like it wasn't weird whatsoever like he felt really weird felt really like ashamed of it and I told him I was like oh whatever like it just it wasn't a big deal um but

Anetteespecially when it comes to anxiety again honesty and communication communication is key in relationship it's about it's about not caring with that it's a mental thing most of the time like if it's a physical thing then you should get medicated as long as you

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)but like a lot of the time it actually happens if you really want to impress the girl if you meet if you meet a girl and you're like I've got to perform here you want if you don't care about the but at least if you like give her a heads up and be like hey I know like you know

Anettethings are getting a little spicy you know like I I don't want to I don't want you to feel like it's a you problem not it's a me problem or you know or even bring it up before it even gets to that point and just make her aware that you

Anetteknow maybe then the seeds planted though so you got to be careful with that as well you know yeah but I mean again it wasn't it wasn't a weird thing it was like an oh okay that's a medical condition that you have no control over I found also that this is getting into a

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)bit of a deeper conversation about it but I found this like cuz it's happened to me a few times as well there are certain girls who are just really good at like managing the situation and then the other girls who bring attention to

Anetteit and it's like it's it really is a it's the worst thing you can do not for nothing but he never had a problem with me yeah but like you said it's more it's more of like a if if if they just sort

Anetteof chill about it and whatever then then you'll just chill about it then 10 minutes later you get caught up in your head like you know when you have panic disorder I call it hurricane brain like when I'm having anxiety about something anything and everything in the world

Anettecould just set me off or make it that much worse be the let let's try to address the question though instead of making it about you so if you can address again just honesty and communication is genuinely what I think

Brian Atlasis going to help in any situation like that yeah yeah yeah I mean I agree with you like if the girl if she's drawing more attention to it that that just makes it worse honestly yeah it's true

Brian Atlasand then I would also just say hey just find a girl who's uh I mean there's obviously you don't you can do other things too you know so um oh wow okay look at that drawing there that's what he was getting I thought it was just a

HTH (Hoe Math)subliminal messaging a minute to get caught up but someone said something about Jesus so I just thought I would got it um so I think you were saying something about yeah you were

HTH (Hoe Math)talking about like selling a piece of your soul when it happens but yeah yeah when when your bodies connect sexually you know and and they you're basically the sperm and egg merge that's two

HTH (Hoe Math)different lives coming together into the Bible says they become one flesh and the actions that lead up to that are also bonding in the more subtle Realms of existence in the Physical Realm of

HTH (Hoe Math)existence it's the sexual act creates new life but in the mental and spiritual Realms of existence sharing sexual experiences even over the Internet is kind of sort of the same thing yeah yeah

Sammy JoeI you could I mean yes there is that point too but also so for me right before I even started this I was recording myself in in the act and that that thought process the idea of someone

Sammy Joewatching or someone you know looking looking watching whatever it is that can be considered a kink right so if you're doing something because you think it's hot it's turning you and your partner on

TTS Readerin not donated $99 no real man will ever be with a woman that has done any sort of promiscuous activities period once you females accept that move on and find

TTS Readeryour s there are so many lonely mentally weak males ready to save you when Jesus won't it's not not entirely wrong yeah not entirely it's pretty it's kind of

HTH (Hoe Math)wrong like there there are some guys will go for it and Jesus will still save you but oh wow okay directionally accurate Jesus will save you that is true yeah but yeah so basically in the

Sammy Joegrand scheme of it while yes you're creating a a a relationship with someone you don't have to give up your soul or your all of your emotions you can have a transactional relationship with someone

Sammy Joewho's seeking something and if you're if you're pleasured by providing that service then that's all that it is it's a it's a wheel that I don't want to share or I want to share it's a fact you

Mars Noirshare your soul you share your soul I mean I think that's great and I don't think sharing yourself is a well that will run dry at any time I think to be

Mars Noiralive is to love and and be loved as much as possible so why not like when using and yeah the well well the well always ends up running dry eventually I

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)don't think so I don't think I don't think hold on a second hold on a second it does eventually run dry eventually the metaphor that I'm using here you want you want you want to bring water to

Mars Noirthe Village while the while the well is still running do you know what I mean I don't think that I always feel like I'm so overwhelmed and overflowing with love and care for people whether it's sex so

Mars Noiryou have to show yourself naked because you're whether that's sexual or like friend or like doing good for others I think I will never run out of the desire to do

Anettethat and so I can't imagine right now it's not love it's desire but once you've put yourself all the way out there what more do you have to give you know what I mean like I have so much to

Mars Noirgive I'm a well-rounded human being we all have we all have a limited amount to give guys wait hold on hold on hold on

HTH (Hoe Math)hold on sorry you go you speak oh my last thing I said was shut up you speak and then but I'm kidding I love you all okay I think you were talking to me I'm getting it's kind of fuzzy in the audio

TTS Readerwe all have like we all have a limited amount from now runs you should look into the eyes of women who've done prawn and bad hundreds of bodies the light is

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)literally drained from their eyes and they are Hollow no wow okay the chat is going in today's going yeah the is the thing is though

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)like what you're saying is I I completely agree with you that you have a lot of love to give and everything but but the maybe the love that you're trying to give is misguided to simps on the internet maybe the love that you

Mars Noirshould be giving is to a partner and to a family I give my love to everyone I can but you your is fake love to everyone you can CU I don't think love has to just be romantic love I think there's so many different types of love

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)in the world and so that's what I'm meaning this is like the thing that I found with only like and look I'm not judging you for doing only fans I think you can do you can do whatever the hell you want but it's it's just it's kind of

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)seems like cope to me when you say that I'm spreading love you want to make money that's your primary objective would you do it for free um oh good good unfortunately that

Mars Noirwas a good question question question I think yeah like the primary reason why girls go towards sex work is because it's lucrative and it can change lives it can help stabilize women you can

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)imagine a guy who's spending his money on your only fans and he's you kind of you kind of stopped when you can imagine a guy who's who's spending money spending money on your only fans okay

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)dick in hand late at night feeling lonely are you spreading love to that guy yeah yeah yeah you you think that that's Ling you

Mars Noirdon't yeah what form of love is that what would you call it I don't know CU I really enjoy

HTH (Hoe Math)The Experience isn't self I do selfish love like don't you do it for yourself more than for others yeah is it self love is it friendly love is it erotic

HTH (Hoe Math)romantic I mean are you drawing Hitler what I'm drawing I'm drawing the look in the eyes it's delayed by a minute but they said that when you know the girls the girls who do porn forever have like a look in their eyes that don't have

Brian Atlasthere's no there's no light what's that called the Thousand stare yeah I'm capturing the Thousand is that what that's called you know like thousand yard stair but for um

TTS Readeryeah I grew up really religious in a household were like my siblings One Motorsports donated $100 ignoring the fact that men you would want to be with will simply never

TTS Readerdo more than use you for sex at your peril if you treat yourself as a seaman receptacle men will too no man capable of ling a woman will want that

Mars Noirever Seaman recepticle that's my new favorite I'm G make that my Twitter go back to

Mars Noirher um yeah I grew up really religious in a Catholic household my like siblings all wear like fullon like pants and long sleeves to go swimming like very

Mars Noirconservative bis oh wow is that what it's called yeah yeah um I think that's go ahead sorry um and so I found when I was trying to discover myself sexually I

Mars Noirfelt a lot of shame in expressing myself and found a lot of comfort in expressing myself online because it was this way to dip my toes into intimacy and fun

Mars Noirwithout it feeling like too serious or like oh I'm having this like interesting conversation with this guy online but like it's at my Pace it's like my comfort level and so yeah maybe like

Mars Noirit's not like love in that scenario that you gave Jake but like it's something and it Sparks something in me and it's fun and exciting I don't think that's wrong at the end of the day it's it's for you though it's not you're not

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)spreading love it's it makes you it be in that situation where dick in hand at the middle of the night it's not about love but that's essentially what only fans is though and like trust me when I say I'm not judging you I've done all of

Jake (Rattlesnake TV)the bad things all the sex drugs and rock and roll I'm not judging you but when you say spreading love like we just have to sort of get our facts right here because only fans is is inherently not spreading love it's actually fueling an

Anetteaddiction that guys have and it's fueling a loneliness epidemic and why do you have to take your clothes off to fulfill that need I mean I Mo I didn't say this but I model I Model A Lot in the automotive industry but I also have

Anettedone like lingerie and and stuff like that and it to me like I I've been pressured many many times to do only fans and have I considered it yeah but at the same time like I've said once I

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