Brian REJECTS Layla?! FLAKE EXPOSED! | Dating Talk #106

Date: 2023-10-04

Duration: 5h 18m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLeila Jenner >

EEmily (DT117)>

SSydney (DT106)>

TTiffany (DT117)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_03TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_04Molly(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kelly(guest)

SPEAKER_06Sydney(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Q(guest)

SPEAKER_09Q(guest)

SPEAKER_10Emily(guest)

SPEAKER_12Sarah Ryder(guest)

SPEAKER_14Leila Jenner(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian opens the show and guests introduce themselves

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast thank you for tuning in tonight”

ControversyBrian exposes a guest who drove 2 hours to the studio, arrived 40 min late, declared no one was 'on her level', then left without participating

“we had a girl ... she came in she's like oh I okay well I'm gonna leave so she drove two hours to come and requested to be on and then just said okay well I'm not going to do the show”

QuoteLeila's DMs to Brian read on air: 'Brian is one of the sexiest men I've ever encountered... I'd sign an NDA for you'

“Brian is one of the sexiest men I've ever encountered ... I swear to God I'm not trolling I'd sign an NDA for you”

QuoteBrian publicly rejects Leila: her porn history is a non-negotiable deal-breaker — 'you're irredeemable, that's like a serial murderer'

“here's my analysis guys of this weird situation one it's an act you don't want to fuck me I'm not going to fuck you ... not the point where we want to date girls who do porn”

Key MomentLeila offers to quit porn, be celibate for months, and do Brian's chores for 3 years to earn a relationship; Brian says he could still walk away after 2 years 11 months

“I would stop like I just genuinely like you ... I would be celibate for like a month ... to me to date you I would have to put you through some sort of trial”

QuoteBrian on the gender double-standard: if a man pursued a female guest the way Leila pursues Brian, he would be considered predatory

“as a guy you could do ... Leila the thing is ... if you're a normal person and you do like the slightest not even a misstep ... they'd be like oh that's predatory”

QuoteLeila tells Q she would 'take him out' and 'pay for dinner' — Q declines citing he was dating someone

“I would genuinely like take you out like you're a pretty little princess and we would go eat”

Key MomentEmily shares story of 3-month situationship where the guy cried when she ended things after refusing commitment; Brian unpacks the likely miscommunication

“I told him how much I liked him and I was like do you are you going to start seeing other girls when we go back to school ... he started crying ... and he wasn't making any noise”

ControversySarah Ryder challenges non-porn Emily: if doing porn makes us unworthy, what makes you more worthy given you also don't get respect from men?

“my question is if that's what makes us unworthy then what's making you unworthy to men because you don't sound like you're getting respected either”

ControversyMolly and Emily clash: Emily compares paying for OnlyFans to buying a bucket of chicken; Molly says 'fuck is fuck' — all sex is equivalent

“fuck is fuck ... whether it's your boyfriend whether it's a stranger you meet on the street ... I could pay ten ninety-nine for a bucket of chicken does that mean I'm worshiping it”

QuoteSarah rates herself a 10/10 and defends it: 'there's no woman who's more beautiful than me' — extended philosophical discussion with Brian on subjectivity vs. objectivity of attractiveness

“I feel like I'm a good eight today ... no I mean you asked me to rate myself so that's how I personally feel about myself ... there is no woman who is more beautiful than me”

QuoteSarah Ryder gives calm, detailed explanation of herpes strains to the panel — HSV-1 vs HSV-2, cold sores as herpes, asymptomatic transmission

“if you've had chickenpox or if you've had mono that is herpes ... most people do have it something about it is it can actually be dormant in your body”

QuoteLeila reveals body count: ~60 (revised from prior 100+ claim); does extended math with Brian on total penis length

“body count probably honestly after the last porn scene I really sat down and thought about it and I think I might be like near 60s”

QuoteTiffany reveals she is a complete virgin — zero body count, zero kissing, zero handholding

“um I'm a virgin so literally never had sex ... I have zero ... I've never had any like romantic experience”

Topics Discussed

Intro, Announcements & Guest Introductions

Brian opens the show, reads channel announcements. All guests introduce themselves: Leila Jenner (20, ex-porn/OF), Molly (20, porn star/OF), Emily (19, Questa College student), Sarah Ryder (22, porn star), Tiffany (18, UCSB poli-sci), Sydney (20, traveling/unemployed), Kelly (21, CSUN student/Nordstrom stylist), Q (30, relationship coach).

Flake Exposé: Guest Who Cancelled Last Minute

Brian exposes a woman who requested to appear on the show weeks in advance, confirmed multiple times, then cancelled the morning of the show claiming she didn't realize it was a 9+ hour commitment. She drove 2 hours to the studio, arrived 40 minutes late, expressed dissatisfaction with the other guests ('nobody here is on my level'), and left without participating. Brian reads message screenshots. Panel discusses the entitlement and disrespect. Plans to implement a deposit policy for future guest bookings.

Relationship Status Round

Panel shares current relationship status and longest relationships: Leila — married (informally) + situationship with someone else, upset about husband's Miami behavior. Emily — single ~1 month; 6-month longest relationship; date on Friday (Hinge match). Sarah — always single; never had a boyfriend. Tiffany — never had a boyfriend; zero romantic/physical contact; virgin waiting for marriage. Sydney — single ~6 months; longest relationship 3 years. Kelly — in a ~2-year relationship (longest). Q — officially single but still sees his 'main chick'; went on a Lobster steak date last week.

Leila Jenner Pursuing Brian: DMs & Tweets Read On Air

Brian reads screenshots of Leila Jenner's public tweets and DMs pursuing him romantically/sexually. Leila's tweets include 'Brian is one of the sexiest men I've ever encountered' and explicit DMs. Brian publicly declines, citing her porn history as a non-negotiable deal-breaker. Leila offers to sign an NDA, quit porn, and be celibate for Brian. Panel and chat weigh in on Brian's rejection. Brian and Leila discuss their 'situationship' dynamic throughout the episode.

Can Women Be Faithful? Cheating Statistics

Chat question: can women be faithful? Panel unanimously says yes. Q shares research: men and women cheat at similar rates in their 20s; men cheat more in 30s-60s. Discussion of what drives infidelity.

Parents' Professions & Reaction to Adult Content Careers

Discussion of whether guests' parents know about their adult content careers. Kelly says her parents probably know and are supportive. Sarah hasn't told her parents. Leila grew up Mormon and discusses the contrast with her current lifestyle. Debate on whether porn stars can be good mothers.

Relationship Types: Open Relationships, Situationships, and Commitment

Discussion of Molly's open relationship (boyfriend in porn, non-exclusive, but she gets jealous); Leila's husband + situationship dynamic; Sydney's views against open relationships (influenced by parents being swingers); panel on when to define a relationship. Brian invites co-host Emily to cancel her Friday date and go out with him instead (playful exchange). Emily agrees to In-N-Out date 'after the show' (comedic bit).

Commitment Conversations: When and How to Have Them

Emily shares story of a 3-month situationship where the guy cried when she tried to end things after he refused to commit. Panel debates whether it was a miscommunication. Q advises: communicate feelings as soon as they arise; find a man who already wants a relationship. Discussion of 'I'm not ready' as genuine vs. excuse. Brian and Leila briefly discuss what it would take for Brian to give Leila a chance. Brian proposes going around the panel on how soon to have the commitment conversation. Leila: immediately; Molly: open relationship so not relevant; Emily: after 3 months; Sarah: important to align early; Kelly: once you're spending every day together.

Porn Industry Debate: Body Count, Respectability, and Self-Worth

Extended, recurring debate between non-porn guests (Emily, Kelly, Tiffany, Sydney) and porn guests (Molly, Sarah, Leila). Topics include: whether doing porn makes women undateable/unmarriable; Sarah's counter-argument (why do non-porn women lack respect from men too?); whether sexual experience in porn improves bedroom performance; the 'dick is dick' argument (Molly/Sarah: body count logic is inconsistent); Brian's 'can't turn a ho into a housewife' position; Leila claims she can't take dick like Molly (self-deprecating); discussion of porn stars being worshipped vs. priced cheaply on OnlyFans; Q attributes dearth of relationship-ready women to sexual marketplace dynamics.

Miscellaneous: Anime, Game of Thrones, UN Men's Day, Politics

Tiffany puts on a Super Saiyan hair wig; discussion of anime (Dragon Ball Z, JJK, Attack on Titan). Brian and Kelly discuss Game of Thrones vs. House of the Dragon. Brian mentions that the UN made International Men's Day the same day as International Toilet Day. Brief political polling: Leila calls herself 'probably liberal'; Sydney says apolitical; Tiffany leans conservative (states she hates Obama).

Self-Ratings Round (Attractiveness 1-10)

Brian asks all guests to rate themselves 1-10 on attractiveness. Leila: 8; Sydney: 9 (approx); Molly: 9; Sarah: 10; Q: declines specifically; Emily: 6 (Brian says she should be higher). Extended discussion with Sarah on self-perception vs. external reality; Brian argues rating yourself a 10 is delusional; Sarah argues beauty is subjective and all women should see themselves as tens; Brian counters that men can't operate with such self-assessment due to real-world feedback.

Herpes Education: HSV-1 vs HSV-2 in the Porn Industry

Triggered by a donation claiming all porn stars have genital herpes. Sarah Ryder provides detailed explanation: HSV-1 and HSV-2 can both appear orally or genitally; most adults carry HSV-1 (cold sores, chickenpox, mono are herpes strains); porn industry does not routinely test for HSV; HSV-2 is more prevalent in adult industry due to unprotected sex; transmission can occur asymptomatically. Brian reads WHO/medical definitions; debate about normalization vs. concern.

Body Count Disclosure Round

Brian asks each guest their body count: Leila — ~60 (revised from 100+; does not count oral); Emily — less than 5; Sarah — ~25 personal; triple digits total (including work); Tiffany — 0 (virgin, no kissing, no handholding); Sydney — declined to state; Q — 'somewhere above 55 multiplied by 3' (evasive). Brian does extended math on the total length of Leila's sexual partners.

Wrap-Up and Final Words

Brian wraps the show. Sydney gives final remarks on swinging and being more careful entering relationships. Kelly final comment on ambition and Brian. Q self-rates body count evasively. Brian announces a special guest for Sunday. Raid on Twitch.

Transcript

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Emilydoes and you're never going to get away from but not everybody else does because we exist the majority of and you're a minority is what you need to realize like he said being a porn star being in the sex work you are a minority of women

Sydneyyou don't represent all women and you need to I know I know you keep saying like it's normal and it probably is because you do live in LA and like I don't live in LA where do you live Las

SydneyVegas even more Las vas more La Las Vegas I Las Vegas all the big cities it's probably more there's more only fans girls but the majority of the world

Brian Atlasisn't like that no one's saying that okay let's we we've already litigated the whole sex work stuff we'll do it in just a sec while after we get through all of this so deal break in a relationship for me it's someone who I

Mollymean like I kind of agree with like everything that everyone said but it's also like someone who can't keep themselves like physically fit on their own um someone who doesn't like eat healthy someone who doesn't really care about like working out um it's kind of

Qgross to me it's it's gross it's gross when they don't care about judgmental you Jud crazy wow so much hatred vitrio wow there's no hate I just wouldn't date

Brian Atlasthem they can go date other wait so Molly right now look I'm very transparent with people with my audience right now I got a [ __ ] dad bod I need to lose at least 20 no dad BS are cute

Mollybecause it doesn't mean that you eat wrong or like don't work out that's just the dad B you have the shape of your body doesn't like yeah the shape of your body doesn't have to be like ABS you

Leila Jennerjust have to like implement the healthy lifestyle with his in andout cup in front of his computer all right uh Leila what what about you deal breaker in a relationship um I'm definitely a very like touchy person like one thing I love

Leila Jenneris like being naked like on top of each other I'm sorry Nick I'm try you don't have to apologize just continue talking go ahead but anyways um I think like one of the most important things in like my relationships and why like we don't

Leila Jennerargue well and why we're so so like soft spoken with each other is because like just like being able to like forehead on forehead like naked as [ __ ] like laying in the sun like just communicate like that I think that's so important just to be like like an hour a day like just to

Leila Jennerbe able to like communicate all your feelings with like no judgment I know it's super helpful sounds lot of work you're so silly Ryan I don't know all right um okay but

Brian Atlasthat's my opinion I think it's important um Tiffany yeah I want your what do you think about and this I'm going to open this up to

Brian Atlasthe entire panel this is this is going to be the most important [ __ ] question I've ever asked this panel so I want all of your undivided attention but I'm asking Tiffany first and it's open to you guys Tiffany what do you think

Brian Atlasabout cdos what what is that collateral collateralized debt obligations what is that your I want

Brian Atlasyour thoughts and Analysis on collateral collateralized debt obligations and how it inevitably led to the 20072 2008 financial

TTS Readercrisis you ain't got the answers man you ain't got the answers you ain't got the answers you ain't got the answers we're sorry I got the answers yeah Molly has the answers you have the answers I just

Mollywatched The Big Short so I know go ahead tell it to us um cdos are basically like okay so mortgages are there's levels to mortgages there's like a b and then AA a

Mollyand Triple B or whatever and like the a mortgages are the ones where like they're owned by the people who have the best credit and the B mortgages are secondary to

Mollythat so cdos are built upon a bunch of Like A and B mortgages all like booked up together and the reason that the cdos

Mollyled to the financial crash of the 2000 whatever crisis was because these like Banks were giving out cdos or like creating cdos that basically had no

MollyMerit and the mortgages that were making up these cdos these people had horrible credit so once these cdos fell like the mortgages fell subprime mortgage yeah

Brian Atlasbecause they were not prime all good talk um deal breaker wait you answered right or Lea just I think we we finished we all finish Rel to dating what deal

Brian Atlasbreakers CD cdos I don't know I'm just kind of [ __ ] around but I knew it that was good congrats that was really good that was good um Q did you answer deal breaker for you no you said start

Qat Kelly yeah okay so we'll come to you then I'll answer um um I have to say emotional

Qdisregulation or having um some form of mental mental illness valid that's valid okay so like

Brian Atlaswoke yeah the woke mind valid yeah Tiffany is super based valid but but

Brian Atlassingle moms too y sing single moms single mom you brought that up [ __ ] I got a list here okay I'm going to say more than one uh Pitbull owner Pitbull

Brian Atlasapologist Emily do you have a pitbull a pitbull pit do you want the pit you did when I was little okay just checking uh where's Belle bottom uh looks at her phone on the

Brian Atlasfirst date constantly deleting and recreating their dating profiles uh post on yikyak post more than three Instagram day van lifer oh van lifer that's I got

Brian Atlasto add that [ __ ] to the like the career deal breaker a van lifer because I matched on dating apps chat chat chat chat chat chat chat have you ever those of you on dating apps in

Brian Atlasthe chat have you ever matched with like a van lifer Nomad type of chick I'm telling you dudes this is almost worse than like travel nurses and flight attendant son here's the thing right a

Brian Atlasvan lifer she's in a crammed car so what she's going to do she she's going to be on the dating app and I've encountered these women they want a shower son they want a shower they're going to match with you on the dating apps oh babe can I st your place and then like but

Brian Atlasthey're they're [ __ ] the dudes too right so if the chick's a vanlier and she's gone to multiple cities the body count is up there gentlemen be very wary of Van lifer Nomad chicks just saying just saying and

Brian Atlasthey're in town for like two days so it's like what's the [ __ ] point I don't want that's actually something I never thought about but like that's so true so true like you're So based Brian how long is your list it's pretty long

Brian Atlaswell careers hair stylist Works in HR flight attendant travel nurse any career where she travels frequently um what about a businessman who travels what do

Leila Jenneryou mean I don't date men so but should women huh in your opinion like would it be smart for me to go dat a businessman or would that be silly well TR lot that's your call I'm just speaking from

Brian Atlasmy perspective okay I mean if look I if you're a woman and you want like to pursue a relationship someone who's a pilot who's always out of town that might not be the most yeah uh ideal

Brian Atlassituation for you but some women are fine with that but me personally I bro flight attendance be [ __ ] yeah because I match with them on the dating apps okay you're in town

Brian Atlasfor two days it's clear you have there's no possibility of us pursuing a long-term relationship why are you on the dating app clearly for sex otherwise there's know why would you be on a

Leila Jennerdating app and you're only in town for 3 Days the only option is sex I definit think like like especially Tinder I think Tinder is like usually just for sex whereas like maybe like something like Hing is more like dating word um oh

Brian Atlasand loudly empathizing with every cause and group on the planet but treating people in their personal lives like trash that's probably a pretty big deal breaker statement um what I think I have

Tiffanymore I don't know um you're very feminine I'm very feminine how so I feel like most guys wouldn't listen that out how does that make me feminine I'm not s

Brian AtlasI'm not sitting here saying I'm like the EP and like detailed I think that's a feminine trait I think that's a is it yeah I look I'm not sitting here saying I'm like I'm a [ __ ] super

Tiffanymasculine dude I don't think so but I'm more I'm more like the class clown type of guy I'm not I'm not saying it's bad I mean I don't ever think it's a compliment to colag guy feminine but yes

Brian Atlasyeah here actually we have a video from Tiffany here that we're going to pull up and what video since we're assessing my masculinity we can assess her femininity Tik to I don't know you'll see I'm oh my excited there's only one

Leila Jennerfrom Tiff a let's see it it's gonna be like a third shap no I don't post that oh my God I'm excited now you like doing the

TiffanyRenegade it's a YouTube short it's the YouTube short short oh is it the Starbucks one I don't know that sounds interesting oh my God what is

Tiffanythat refresh play or just refresh oh it's it's a sne and pear d one dude your skin looks amazing in this I hate the red pill community and how they set a bad image of conservatives yours are not

Tiffanyconservative they're misogynistic as [ __ ] I hate sneo and I hate th Davis even more they're both misogynistic piece of [ __ ] it annoys me so much how sneo worked with Kanye as you guys know Kanye is my identical Soul twin and he's

Tiffanymy inner child so if you hate Kanye I hate you too don't tell to me the red pill people can suck my dick if you want to hear more about this topic watch

Leila Jennermyne [ __ ] H El sneo for sure it's not very feminine to say suck my dick I never said I was feminine okay okay I'm was it was it

Brian Atlaslike a dig I'm just trying to someone clipped that in to sneak out that's so funny was it what like was it a dig I don't get it what no you're just like your you're feminine so I'm just trying

Brian Atlasto what do you mean like what I'm just repeating what the the words that just came out of your mouth what oh my

Brian AtlasGod what okay what are you trying to say what's your point what's my point yeah you made a statement like what was the point I just made I listed the red flag I I just don't well I don't follow the

Brian Atlaswhole like if you have a list of things bear in mind I'm the moderator and the host of the podcast there's a much higher conversational burden on me so of course I do this this preparation

Brian Atlasbecause I have a significant conversational burden here um it seems like you got offended at my comment I'm not that offended okay you seem like well I mean you you could say you could say that

Tiffanycall no I meant that as a good thing like the way you said I can't like see my Enigma or something I feel like that's a very like feminine thing you know what I mean that you're in wait hold on that now you're changing it to

Brian Atlasthe comment that I made about you that I said you're kind of an enigma that I can't you guys are like a public match continue so like I hate a lot of things

Brian Atlastoo oh oh so you're saying like commonality we both hate things yeah okay sweet what's up homie pound it we're good we're we're friends

Nicknow we can Bond over our hatred of many many things yeah there's nothing there's no better way to bond than ha

Brian Atlasbonding enemy that's not true the enemy of my enemy is my friend oh Brian okay all right okay um I don't know where

Brian Atlaswe're going with that did we oh did I oh red flags okay we'll do the video because these girls let me give a little context Molly said well because of my

Brian Atlasexperience she s's the D really well but is it the case that men are really preoccupied with with the skill of your

Leila Jennerdsing well I guess we' about to find out don't think so but Tate has a stance on this let's hear him can you move us on the other side you think with him being a millionaire he'd use different red

TTS ReaderSolo cups but yeah and he'd have a bigger table right he's like started from the beginning man God that head is so [ __ ] bald sex sex this position

TTS Readerthat position don't you feel like you get to a point your life don't you feel like and maybe I'm going to sound like a romantic don't you feel like you get to a position in your life where you rather have a girl who you truly love and she truly loves you and it doesn't matter what understand what he's saying I can't hear

TTS Readerhim I'm serious if you sleep with enough women just like if you sleep with enough men there's no [ __ ] move Sex is not a complicated operation right there's no move that's going to be like wow I've

TTS Readernever seen this before I've never seen this before my mind is if you no no if you think the way you keep a man happy is to move your [ __ ] in a particular way on top of his dick as opposed to behave in a way which is respectful to

TTS Readerhim out in the real world and for him to know he has you and your loyalty regardless of what's going to H come up all the problem is going to come into in his life then you're wrong so the whole point of sex is a connection between two people and I think having a genuine

TTS Readerconnection between two people is worth more than the sex so her question was what can a woman do to truly blow your mind in the bedroom you'll blow my mind outside of the bedroom in a relationship as a whole that's the truth that's the

TTS Readertruth wouldn't you rather have a girlfriend who truly loves you is absolutely loyal to you like no matter what happens she's going to be there for you catch a k six months she's waai outside waiting you she she okay she can't take d right whatever but she

TTS Readertries her very very best the poor the poor thing and she wants to sa she wants to satisfy you and you know you know she cares about you wouldn't you be like well I don't care that she can't take dick cuz that's actually a quality woman

TTS Readerwhich is rare in the world to but I am gen uned in sleeping with a woman who I don't have a connection with I if a girl said to me I don't love you at all I don't feel anything for you at all I don't want to sleep with you but I will

TTS ReaderI would say no the sex act in and of itself is is is okay we've all have you had sex we've all had sex right do you really need to [ __ ] somebody who doesn't give a [ __ ] about you at all we live in a world now right where we have a lot of narratives which are being broken down

TTS Readerand destroyed in real time and I think it's very very healthy for men and women to look at sex as an act that happens people who at least like each other the idea that I don't like them at all but

TTS Readeras long as they can suck dick this way then it's okay I don't give a [ __ ] right if a girl genuinely loves me with all her heart and gives me a [ __ ] terrible blowj job I'm still G to be like well you love me I love you it is what it is it's more life's more

TTS Readerimportant than blow jobs and [ __ ] blow in your this is the truth and if it's not love this if it's not love let me tell you something women are The Gatekeepers not men if it's not love you shouldn't be [ __ ] him anyway this is

TTS Readerthe reality of the world the told you different you shouldn't be [ __ ] any man you don't love that's the first [ __ ] thing be sleep with it you're right you're right cuz no no no in

Leila Jennerwhatever you say in whatever is not there you will feel it oh she's so cute W fresh and fit podcast for sure okay so

Brian Atlasum that's how a lot of men feel yeah like the fact that y'all you're Gluck Gluck 9,000 or whatever the [ __ ] is on fire or whatever it's like Co take you out too

Leila Jennerlike let me love you got speak to the mic sorry I'm sorry I keep forgetting but you don't have to apologize just I'm sorry I just make a correction okay I feel like I do all the above sometimes

Brian Atlaslike yeah I'm a [ __ ] and I really like to [ __ ] but I also really like to love and support you okay the the I the reason you're right you're saying that shouldn't be my main ideal to get guys and I get that well the reason I bring it up is because when we say what well

Brian Atlaslike oh here's kind of the negative consequences or negatives of dating someone in the adult industry you say well we [ __ ] really good yeah but I don't first off I don't think that that makes up for the negative consequences

Brian Atlasof why you're in the industry uh that could have a potential impact on the relationship but I met this guy it's also like guys first off sorry I would say men are attracted to in the same way

Brian Atlasthat women are attracted to men who are experienced men are attracted to women who have some degree of sexual Purity or innocence who are inexperienced in some way of course because that that's

Leila Jennerpsychologically stimulating for men um the guys I [ __ ] with like they they do like how I [ __ ] and I I mean I do you know I enjoy it but I just feel like I I

Leila Jennermet this guy the other day and he was like uh like I only really [ __ ] with like girls who really like to [ __ ] like and it's just which is just his preference and I get most you think

Leila Jennerthat's a guy that is like this is a guy no of course not and I honestly have like lowkey like I hate to be a hypocrite but like I lowkey like understand your view cuz like I'm not going to ever marry a [ __ ] like I'm very happy with how like my stuff like went

Leila Jennerdown well you'll probably disappoint be disappointed in that partner though no well I no because you're your sexual expectations are prob [ __ ] who I want to [ __ ] and I know that's like awful and you hate that I know I know I know

Leila Jenner[ __ ] I get that but it like works for me like you know so that's what I do it might work for you but it's not going to work it's not lot of men it's not most men don't want

Brian Atlastheir women their their Partners sleeping with other men I never said you were wrong about that I agree with that okay well you'll find it then but what you what we were saying in the first topic was um like where were we even going where well okay we're we're

Brian Atlastalking like the you make you make it this big hold on you make it this big argument that well because of your experience in the adult entertainment industry that you are on some god tier

Brian Atlaslevel when it comes to your [ __ ] anyone like that bro you got to let me [ __ ] finish before interrupting me so I can actually get through my point so you can actually respond to me in an appropriate way so D it's just like let

Brian Atlasme finish my sentence so you don't right okay so the argument that you guys have been making is because you guys do sex work that ultim immediately translates into

Brian Atlasyou guys being better in the bedroom because you do sex work I you guys would probably also agree that if you guys never did Sex work and you just had like one or two or three long-term boyfriends

Mollyyou would probably be just as good in the bedroom than like you think the performative factor improved like I don't I know for sure my sexual skills

Mollyhave improved the more I have sex because that's how works you can have the more you have sex can be with though it's the way to have sex with different people to experience like

Mollydifferent things in sexual activities that you've never experienced before like one time need 100 to do that you can do that one I had do that a girl rub my clip with like her Knuckles and I didn't know I like that and I didn't

Mollyknow that felt good until I experienced it with that girl and so like now that's something I know I like but okay I mean sure if you why can't you have done that with the same person like you can experience those things with my

Mollyboyfriend's not a girl and he's never had that done to him so how would he know to do it to me well that's what happens when you get comfortable in a relationship you start doing you experience things with that person but if they don't know to do that then how

Kellywould you have to learn it about the other person you learn you learn you learn how to be with that other person you learn how to have sex like the sex gets better once you keep having sex with the same person right you listen to them because you guys have experience my

Mollyexperience like I've experienced the the monogamous side of it like not being in the porn industry and I've experienced the side of it being in the porn industry and I can fully say that like my sexual experience grows and the way

Mollythat I have sex gets better and better every time I have sex with new people because you're just having sex with different people with multiple people you're just adding to your body count yeah and I don't think there's anything wrong with that because it's my job to

Kellyhave sex with people on camera then you're going to have a problem with it when you're 29 30 why why there's like mils and they've done it ever since they were so you don't want to you don't want like marriage you don't want kids oh I

Emilydo want marriage and I do want kids good luck with that to want people have kids in yeah but to want kids kids are all a right you need to realize that children are a luxury they're not a right you just get to have just because you're on this Earth no you need to be a

Mollygood person to have children very good person by my standards I think you're is not moral no matter which way you spin itou and oh my bad you're 5T you're a foot away from me but porn keep touching

Leila Jennerme okay one I touched you one time all right keep going keep going go ahead yeah I lost my whole point what was I saying um I think mils are actually like the the mothers I have met in porn like

Leila Jennerthey I one time I met Cory chase the most like sweetest lady ever that's exactly what I was think she gave a scrunchie and a Subway sandwich first time I met her every woman [ __ ] scrunchy every woman I've ever met and

Sydneyporn has been an amazing woman children like they raised their kids amazing and like uh I was a kid to all that growing up and that sucks for your experiences for sure swingers Mormon swingers not St no I'm not saying that I'm saying the

Sydneypeople that they brought into the house they're were porn stars that I've I've met and I'm going to I'm going to tell you uh it doesn't positively affect kids but that's they can that your parents

Leila Jennerallow mother and por can be good Mothers 100% from many are know no mothers can you can be a great mother just because you it doesn't matter what your job is doesn't matter if you're a single mother

Kellyand you you're a stripper you can be an amazing mother my parents are still together yes she just doesn't talk to them I don't talk to them I have have like sex then maybe both of you don't have like that parental support where you I I've met people with single

Leila Jennermothers who are strippers and they are the best people some of the best people I've ever met and okay well think about this is a child going to be proud children are my best friend has is getting doctor

Brian Atlasright now and his mom is a single mother stripper College we are now going to enter into the last portion of our show we're doing the after show Nick if you can hit the lights for us we're now in the after show we have a couple more

Brian Atlasconversational threads then we're going to wrap up so guys if you uh want to get oh we also if you seen the description

Brian Atlaswe've changed it re is $20 and up TTS is $69 and up so we've lowered the uh thresholds for this is for streamlabs

Brian Atlasand Super Chat 20 and up for uh Reed 69 and up on streamlabs for TTS and we'll read from streamlabs too if you want to do it through through uh streamlabs that way we can open it up to a few more

Brian Atlaspeople if you want to here at the end so uh okay I don't know where we where we were oh okay we have a we have something here from our good friend stiff ask everyone to rate their looks on a

Leila Jennerscale of 1 to 10 we'll start with Lea thank you Brian I feel like I'm a good eight today did my hair it's cute

Sydneynine I'd say today eight I'm a 10

Qseven like six seven eight I'm readying myself yeah six and a half no you're no you're more than you're you're more than

Emilyuh I give myself a six so wait 8 n 8 10 7 six you two need to up it a little more you guys are

Brian Atlasdefinitely more than what you said like I'd say nine 10 so we have a 10 here we've got a 10 um so you're on par with the most beautiful women in the there's

Sarah Ryderno woman who's more beautiful than you no I mean you asked me to rate myself so that's how I personally feel about myself so like that can vary like someone can think I'm a one someone can think I'm in a million but you ask for my personal

Brian Atlasopinion on myself and that's what I think well I agree with that the your physical appearance is based in like an external reality like because someone

Brian Atlaslooks at you that's how you look to the external world what how you feel about it inside doesn't your perception of yourself does not determine how other

Sarah Ryderpeople see you in the world well I think of it like you can show a staged room to 10 different people and they're all going to have different opinions on if that room looks good or not the person that staged it is going to think that

Sarah Ryderthe room is [ __ ] amazing but someone else that did not stage the room could be like I [ __ ] hate the wall color everything about this room is atrocious okay so but so in any case your own

Brian Atlasself-perception because typically like at least for I'd say a lot of people they do take into account their assessment of how generally other people might perceive them when it comes to

Brian Atlastheir own physical attractiveness but for you your self-perception is that when it comes to your looks your physical appearance you consider yourself to be a 10 right to myself okay

Sarah Ryderuh do you think that all women should view themselves that way as tense frankly I do and I like I agree with what you were saying like you guys are also tens like y'all are every woman on

Sarah Ryderthis cast right now is Drop Dead stunning so you should see that in yourself and value yourself for what you are sorry Sor sorry sorry keep going

Brian Atlasthat was it no Lila was um Brian that's not funny well okay so what do do you think all men should be tens should view themselves as tens

Sarah Rydersure yeah I feel like self-confidence is key so like if you think like you said that you're a six so like obviously and I again it's subjective so if you're thinking like

Sarah Ryderwhat anyone can think sure but but like you as just yourself and an individual when you're in the bathroom by yourself looking in the mirror you should look at yourself and think that you're a 10 that's delusional why I think you're

Brian Atlasbecause you love your I mean you have to look at yourself every [ __ ] day mindset well okay well I'll explain to you first I mean I could okay so I have the def definition of delusional here so

Brian Atlasdelusional is characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite in controvertible evidence to the contrary typically as a symptom of a

Sarah Rydermental condition or having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions based on or having faulty judgment mistaken right but you're calling me delusional on a question that you ask that's completely subjective so I don't understand I said

Brian Atlasif I thought I was a 10 that would be delusional she because why because you don't like yourself or you think no it just would be delusional I am not on par with the most beautiful and physically attractive men in the world well people

Brian Atlasare different types that's not me being that's not me being insecure or like having low self-esteem that's me being living in reality body I'm not I'm not getting modeling contracts like it is what it is

Sarah RyderI'm not upset that I'm this is my physical representation in this in this Earthly plane like it just is what it is but the question that you asked is completely subjective so you're giving a

Sarah Ryderreally realist response to a completely subjective question but there there is objectivity when it comes to physical Beauty but like you you okay if we each individually went and raided each other

Sarah Ryderon the panel we're all going to say different numbers for different people because of our own biases and preferences correct perhaps the same range but if we lined up a thousand men

Brian Atlasand a thousand women there would be you would start seeing patterns like if you had to like sort them by most attractive to least attractive you would see there

Brian Atlascould be like oh this person's 972 this oh this other person put them at 900 but you will start seeing General Trend towards there is to some degree consensus over who's the most attractive

Sarah Ryderand who's the least attractive mhm sure but again you asked me for my opinion on myself and I gave that to you and I feel like when you're rating yourself like

Mollyyou are your own best advocate so like if well that's justu that's huis but no it's not because it's like physical traits are subjective like I totally agree like someone can think that like a

Leila Jennerthicker body is attractive and someone can think that body is more attractive do we have Ain I'm sorry I would actually that would actually might help me quite a lot do

Brian Atlasyou really have one do you want me to help you find it I think it's in the drawer over there I don't um oh

Kellyokay I think the question that you have to ask Brian is what would you think the world rates yourself would rate you as yeah but I think that you know I I get what you're saying and I agree with you

Emilybut I also think that those two questions ought to kind of be the same thing but just for other yourself yeah and what does the world rate you like she said if you're asking us to see what

Emilydoes everybody else's governance of attractiveness mean to us then that's a different question yeah but it's kind of the same it is if you ask like what on average I've been rated by people that

Brian Atlashave rated me would say that I'm anywhere between a seven and an eight would you so but here's the question though would hold on hold on would you disagree with their assessment it depends I've had people that do not find

Sarah Ryderme attractive whatsoever and people that think that I'm the most attractive person that they've ever met stop what me yeah don't point that on anybody's face I'm not going to put it on the

Brian Atlastable actually pass it to me give it to me but you just told me I could I was actually G to use it on you so you could have be less looking off into the distance and is it not working I feel

Brian Atlasbad now I cut your conversation off okay there you go okay continue here I'm looking at it it's cute like a cat okay

Brian Atlasall right that was a stupid bit um okay but [ __ ] I lost my TR thought I'm sorry that's my

Leila Jennerbad trying to you were like it's kind of the same like that the two questions yeah the two it's they're kind of the same so you think people should factor

Brian Atlasin like everybody else's standards with our own to be real with ourselves is what you're saying yeah I do think the two questions are like they're very much

Brian Atlaslinked because like okay I could sit here and think that I have a million dollars in my bank bank account but if the bank institution says I have

Brian Atlas$100 however I feel about it or not there's just like I only have $100 but that's tangible that's something you can hold physical attraction is not but your face the your body is something that is also tangible but everyone has

Brian Atlasdifferent opinions on what is top tier attractiveness right and so there could be some like some people have different things that they prefer but I mean I think when we're talking about the peak levels of physical attractiveness like

Brian Atlasif we're talking about that upper like TENS for example someone who's a a 10 uh we are talking about some like the Pinnacle of beauty right but what I'm saying is everyone else's Pinnacle of

Mollybeauty is subjective to them so if you're asking us to rate ourselves every single person's like standards of beauty is going to be completely different so like when we

Mollyrate ourselves we have individual standards of beauty that nobody else has and like you can't really compare well it's very conv viewing

Brian Atlasperspective of like towards someone who like experiences it well it's it's very very convenient that it happens to be the cas that for a lot of people and it

Brian Atlasseems to be more so women than men that they seem to hold themselves to being tens well for why do men devalue

Brian Atlasthemselves why can't men like a self-esteem because men have to operate in reality we can't be delusional like we can't sit here and be like I'm a [ __ ] 10 like you have and

Brian Atlasalso I think it's because both men and also women gas up other women look at a girl's Instagram profile even like a girl who's not on social media a girl who's like just some rap regular college girl who's an average looking girl all

Brian Atlasher friends are in her [ __ ] thing saying you're sleigh Queen you're beautiful like you women look you gas each other up like you know what's actually interesting one of the differences between men and women is

Brian Atlasthat men will like kind of like mess with each other in person and then praise each other in private and I think it's the opposite men will uh women will

Brian Atlaspraise other women publicly and then talk [ __ ] about them in private um so yeah I just think women are gassing up other women and then also simps too a lot of simps it's not just I'm blaming

Brian Atlasit on men too a lot of simps are going to gas up a lot of women you're [ __ ] beautiful plus the amount of sexual attention that an average woman can get is [ __ ] insane so of course a lot of women think they're tense because a lot of men want to [ __ ] them doesn't mean

Brian Atlasthey want to be in a relationship though seems like men are the horny slits here well look you you take like an average girl put her on Tinder she has the equivalent sexual optionality as

Brian Atlasa top tier male celebrity professional athlete musician actor average girl has the equivalent sexual pull of like it's

Brian Atlasinsane again it seems like men are the horn dogs here Laya can you if if you're just going to be checked out just go sit on the couch I'm listening I'm just like

Mollylooking at my fingers while I'm listening okay go ahead go ahead Molly I mean that's it like the way you're describing it saying that like men are simps and like a woman has the sexual pull of like a average woman has sexual

Brian Atlaspull of like any actress or whatever like of top an average woman has the equivalent sexual optionality of a famous movie star so you're you're

Mollysaying that men back to the supply and demand men are demanding the sex from average women and they are so horny that like they would

Molly[ __ ] the right but but like they're so horny for that that they create the supply because women obviously if they're going to benefit like if they can benefit from these Sims and these

Brian Atlasmen like thaing of them they're going to don't confuse sexual attention for relationship attention and marriage attention just because a guy wants to sleep with you doesn't mean that he

Kellywants to pursue goes into marriage attention as well having sex yeah 100% don't you have sex you think every single that has ever had sex with you

Emilywants to marry you that's the issue like women view sex as commitment whereas men view it as the oppos a man has to commit to you first like no a man will have sex with you but he'll commit to you way later

Mollywhen he realizes you're worth that a woman will have sex with a man in hopes he's going to make her his girlfriend but see that's what I think is so empowering about porn is I have enough

Emilyfun sex in my life that I don't need to get my value from a man who like may or may may not marry me one day based off my body count and that goes back into what they were arguing with you about earlier where you were just so confused

Mollyabout leaving that to one person and you were like that's perverted to have to leave intimacy to one person when it's like that's not what I said you literally said it was perverted to leave intimacy with one person I think it's

Mollyper no I said it's perverted to look at my body to say that oh there's only stuffer um you said it was wrong to over sexualize what you do for work right yeah I well I think when you're looking

Emilyat as a person and taking myself out of the like it's okay to want to be treated like a person yeah it is 100% I'm saying do you see the logical fallacy you want to not over sexualize something you do

Sarah Ryderliterally for work no she's just logically saying treat me like a human I just would I wanted to ask cuz I keep hearing this get brought up so I wanted to like play Devil's Advocate but I keep hearing the word marriage getting thrown

Sarah Ryderout there and like how your value not value but like all of this has to do whether or not someone will marry you why is that the basis of let me finish why is that the basis of the

Sarah Ryderconversation when most marriages these days end in divorce that seems like a very feeble line to base people's worth on anyone can go get married I'll tell you why right now because all three of

Sarah Ryderyou said you wanted to be married and have children so it matters for real literally I'm saying you guys don't want have to have multiple baby daddies is that right I actually don't want kids nor do I want to get married okay so

TTS Readerthen out of do you want a long-term partner uh it depends I you want to just okay hold on hold on grid One Motorsports donated $69 brickson Sunday's panel was awesome

TTS Readerno 304s tonight the of slpr girls has been a bunch of circular arguments of them trying to defend the lack of morals

TTS Readershockingly Lea has been the least hor just needing I wait for the Youth thank you grid One Motorsports for the $69 the and I thank you for saying I'm

Brian Atlasthe Le to it and I can agree that I am pretty needy so yeah grid one grid one sports I am probably I mean I'm he's donated a lot tonight yeah thank you man really appreciate your patronage um what

Brian Atlashis comment was essentially just about um Sunday's penel awesome um I am like attempt I'm again I've said this last show I'm attempting to phase out bringing on women who do only fans and

Brian Atlaswho are in the adult entertainment industry um but uh huh rude it is what it is you guys have not you guys but like most of the

Brian Atlaswomen that have caused us major headaches on the show were women in the adult entertainment industry like vile you guys are cool you guys are cool I don't want to paint with a broad brush

Brian Atlasbut it has been repeated patterns of typically women who are in the adult industry are the ones that cause us the biggest [ __ ] headaches the ones that flake the ones that are rude the ones

TTS Readerthat noow the ones that donated $69 Lea is checked out contemplating how

TTS Readermuch her vrex prescription is going to cost 21 DS is

TTS Reader$794 go by without first once it happens it's every time you're stressed sleep deprived uh J Butler I think is the

Brian Atlaspharmacist uh Butler here appreciate it man thank you thank you um than you for your knowledge King yeah we're probably going to attempt to phase it out um so

Leila Jenneryeah just I'm not checked out I was just like uh like distracted sorry if I was being offensive apologize okay um wait so okay you we were you brought

Brian Atlassomething up and then the TTS came in I'm trying to remember what we were marriage and divorce oh marriage and but you don't want a long-term relationship

Sarah RyderI mean I'm open to a partnership and I've had Partnerships before um but I don't you've never had a boyfriend correct no I had a girlfriend

Sarah Ryderbut it wasn't like okay you're you're by right yeah okay um and I've dated I've I've I'm not going to say I've had a serious boyfriend that's why I said I've never had a boyfriend but I've dated how

Brian Atlasmany people are you currently dating um about three dating isn't just going out on dates and hanging out with them how many people are you hooking up with none what what about for work how often

Sarah Ryderare um I haven't worked in a few months just cuz I've been mov moving and doing personal stuff but uh do you have a roster right now you said three like of men that I've been dating in my personal what do you mean dating what do you going out going out on dates getting to

Sarah Ryderknow them like seeing so of the three men that you've been dating how many dates have you been on with each um so one guy I've been seeing him for like

Sarah Ryderfour months I would say we go on like one date a week um okay four months another guy was a lot more recent like two months maybe I've seen him like

Sarah Ryderthree times and then another guy probably like three or four months and we've gone out maybe five times we went out yesterday um and you're not hooking

Sarah Ryderup with any of these dudes because this is just for me person [ __ ] men but with my job like obviously a lot of men just tend to jump

Sarah Ryderto sexualizing me so I want if a man is truly interested in me I want to see that with him taking me out on dates and getting to know me as a person outside of my job and wanting to have sex with me I've heard that

Kellyfrom don't you guys think it's unfair for you to say that it's unfair for a man to sexualize you guys when your occupation is literally titled sex work I think if a man's brain is that small

Emilythat he can't wrap his head around like work versus real life then he's not worth eting but your work is notal you're the one that took something that's real life intimate and loving and turned it into works that's what you

Emilyneed to recognize no as of the last maybe 40 years the rest of humanity treated it as something intimate and loving and sacred for years now you've turned it into a career and something for you to make money off of

Emilyso yeah there's no it makes sense that you're completely desensitized and you're never going to understand sorry I touched you one more time well oh my God it's tight at the table guys it's all right people I've been me and Q have

Brian Atlasbeen holding hands the entire show um all right just kidding just kidding um but okay so four guys one of them you've been seeing for four months you hang out

Brian Atlasonce a week one was two months only hung out three times another was four months and you've seen them a couple times or something you've not hooked up with any of these three guys first off that's a big [ __ ] L for the guy you've been

Brian Atlasseeing for four months and you hang out once a week does he pay for your dates like you guys go get dinner of course he pays for the dates Jesus Christ the dating Market's absolutely [ __ ] like it's just this is ridiculous um do you

Sarah Rydernot want to have sex with him does he want to have sex with with you um it's more like I said like it how old how old is he um I usually date guys in they're like 30s and you're 22

Brian AtlasYeah is this a sugar daddy thing no I mean I I have those I do Financial dominations you have that too related to those guys they're they're genuinely

Brian Atlaslike romantic Pursuits for you not just yes okay so that's a big I don't know who this four months hanging out one one time a

Brian Atlasweek thing is um look it's obviously 100% your call if you don't want to have sex with him 100% your call but like from a guy's

Brian Atlasperspective that's a big [ __ ] L to be dating a girl that long who's dating three two other men at the same time who's shooting porn and she doesn't want to be sexually open with you that's that's no she said she

Mollyhasn't shot in four months and what if he's dating she said she hasn't shot in like months I think it's actually very respectable she does want to be sexually open but with the right person with the right intimacy and she's like literally

Brian Atlastaking her relationship so seriously like I think that's respectable she's not taking her relationship seriously she's currently dating two other men well but that's taking it seriously that is not how is

Brian Atlasthat taking it seriously she's dating two other men so a DAT no no no a date she's been seeing hold on four months this gu takes her out on a date once a week I think it should have developed to the point where the other guys that's a

Brian AtlasWAP on the other guys but in anyways people move how they move um it's not what was the term you use serious or no I think she's like taking her dating and

Mollyher relationship status really seriously because also she's not oh I think she definitely is because she is putting her sexual intimacy she's dating them because that's what dating is you talk

Sarah Ryderto multiple different people at what is the benefit connect with okay I've like it's been explained to these people like they're aware that it's not exclusive we're just getting to know each other on

Sarah Ryderand like figuring out four months you're four months in you see this guy once a week okay but like we both work a lot we have very demanding schedules So and

Sarah RyderI've been dealing with moving and like all this other stuff so like yeah to carve out two hours to go to dinner with someone once a week like I don't think that's super serious has have you kissed

Kellythis guy yeah that one that's it though just and he has he made a move to go further um sort of but I shot it down pretty quickly I mean if you're so busy

Kellythroughout your week and then you have two and then you only have two hours to go and spend with them and you're making time you're making that time to go see him every week shouldn't you care a little bit more about that person since you have no time in the world it's

TTS Readerdefinitely not that I don't care about them but I feel like we had a conversation hold on just a sec hold on just a sec she is stringing them along and they are allowing themselves to be taken this is

TTS Readerhow attention staffed men are in today's society guys have some better standards for yourselves and stop sing for these 304s okay but if I went and [ __ ] all these guys or just [ __ ] that one the

Sarah Ryderfour Monon guy then I would be a [ __ ] right so it's like I'm taking it slow and communicating with these people like they're fully aware of what's going on it's not like I'm hasn't that ship

Brian Atlassailed when you started doing porn what do you mean I've been doing porn for almost four years and dating is so but hasn't the no offense the not being a [ __ ] thing the ship has sailed on that well like you have to think of it this

Sarah Ryderway I'm not going to show up to a porn set with my parents right and expect them to like fall in love with every person that I'm shooting a porno with right but when I'm dating in my personal

Sarah Ryderlife as me not just as like my Persona of Sarah Ryder why because you have one okay the the production company pays you 500 bucks there's cameras it's going to be distributed right it's okay what it's

Brian Atlasmore a thousand whatever it's going to be distributed online it's going to be online permanently um for that you'll have sex right away with a man who doesn't care about you but a guy who's actually romantically interested in you who's paying for dates who's been dating

Sydneyyou for four months makes the time to see you at least once a week he's still waiting and you say you don't have all this time for him then how are you entertaining all these other dudes yeah you have two other guys that you see too

Sydneylike if you don't have all this time maybe you should just focus on one of them him well she's moving right now so she's like oh she's moving okay that takes a weekend that takes a weekend you probably had movers help you too I'm

Sarah Ryderassuming um actually no I've been doing it all by myself fishing a 2,000 foot house all on my own congratulations welcome to human the human race everybody I [ __ ] have all this [ __ ]

Sarah Ryderjust like but you're this experience of you moving is not unique to you everybody moves apartment why is it such a burden on how you treat your you guys are automatically putting

Sarah Rydermy dating into a negative light but I'm literally said that I've communicated with these people they're fully aware they know what's going on they're consenting just as much as I am part of the Rel but you're you're winning

Brian Atlasbecause you're getting you're getting the male attention you're this guy's bringing value to you he's paying for your dates he's giving you attention he's giving you his protection and yeah but these people are getting to

Sarah Ryderknow me on an intimate level when I go to work were I'm not going and divulging all my like secrets about myself and the things that are like make me a human being but when I'm seeing someone romantically just like any other person

Brian Atlaswould when they're dating you're telling them more is the guy is he in the industry is he like just a normal corporate type job or yes okay so then what do you bring to the table for him what do you mean I'm what do you mean

Kellywhat I just asked the same thing you bring what do you bring I bring a lot more than you guys do I bring a lot more than just [ __ ] but I never said that more bring to a relationship I asked a

Kellystraight up question but she they're not even she's not even bringing [ __ ] in a that's not even what she's bringing at all so what really like so that's what that I I asked a genuine question what are you bringing to the table and you

Kellyanswered it asking me what do I bring to the table I'm in a relationship I didn't say that twoe two your relationship twoe relationship congrats thanks they share there okay um yeah you saw him waiting outside for me he dropped me off here

Brian Atlashe's going to pick me up he waited for me okay keep yelling my my man would he's not yelling wait your man what Leila any man I date would would drop me off they would Oh you mean John zerka who's in

Brian AtlasMiami who just had the most now you know that I don't want to talk about that but like you know that was I saw his stream yesterday it was a bad moment it was a bad moment okay um that was it was sad

Brian Atlasso okay um look hiccups I guess it's win for you to me it's just like it's interesting that you're very open sexually when you

Brian Atlasare being financially rewarded for it but when it comes to a romantic relationship you like it's funny because these two girls said well because I'm in the adult

Brian Atlasentertainment industry my I'm really good in the bedroom yet for you you're in the adult entertainment industry and the value that they said they bring you don't bring that value to a relationship

Sarah RyderAKA sex because to be fair a lot of what has been said in my opinion from like Leila um is I don't I'm not saying like

Sarah RyderOh I'm a porn star so like my biggest asset is that I have a [ __ ] vagina and that I have sex with people I'm not saying that that is just like the ruse that's been put up and like what feeds

Sarah Ryderyou guys and like the comments but then when I humanize myself and date like a normal [ __ ] person and like oh my God now I bring nothing to the table because it's not [ __ ] that's that's not what

Brian AtlasI'm saying but it's it's just it's interesting to me that you are look again you're tot if you obviously you know consent you are

Brian Atlas100% free to not like want to sleep with somebody and it should be on your terms when you're ready you can I just the way I guess a lot of men feel

Brian Atlaswill feel a certain type of way about it like for example if I met a girl not that I would pursue a girl but uh in this way but if I found out that she had previously had 1001 night stands and then she finally meets me and then she

Brian Atlassays we're going to wait until marriage to have sex and then to add to add the cherry on top she had all kinds of crazy sex with all those guys but with me just missionary it's kind of like I don't

Brian Atlasknow that there's an analogy for this but it's like you have provided this value for all the previous men but then now you finally met me and it feels like you are

Brian Atlasnot ah [ __ ] I don't know how to articulate this properly in any case for me look if I if I encountered a girl who had a high body count not that I would even really want

Brian Atlasto pursue her but uh and she was like oh I want to wait till marriage it's like not with me not with me like I'm not going to pressure you to have sex but I'm just I'm moving on so um I don't

Brian Atlasknow that's just it's just interesting to me that I'm more Curious from like the guy's perspective like what what are they

Sarah Ryderlike I assume they're not waiting for marriage like they're not trying to so like and neither am I I'm not waiting for marriage either but like I want to

Sarah Ryderget to know them on you've known this guy for four months yeah yeah but we're both seeing other people and like I said we both have very demanding jobs like he works from like 3:00 in the morning to

Sarah Ryderlike how many dates how many dates have you gone on with this guy 20 maybe 10 I don't know 10 that's a lot I public too were they all in public

Kellyyeah I mean no not all in public like we did have some like home dates but so that's like a good 10 Dates is like a good amount of time to get to know someone and decide whether or not you want to be with that person cuz I know

Kellyafter 10 Dates I would not be wanting to if I'm wasting 10 dates on a guy I will I like that guy I'm not going on 10 dates with no guy that I just want to that's a lot of dates I can't even think of 10 places to go on dates right now so

Kellylike at the top of my head so 10 Dates that's a lot of time and effort to be putting into somebody so why are you going to waste your time taking somebody out on 10 Dates if you're not serious about them I mean it definitely might seem like a waste of time to you but for

Sarah Ryderme personally like I said I didn't really start dating or anything like that until high school so I'm only 22 I'm just trying to figure myself out what I'm looking for in a relationship

Sarah Ryderin a partner uh and things like that I'm even still figuring myself out as just an individual so by so sorry continue are didn't mean to interrupt go ahead no

Sarah Ryderbut just by going on dates that's how I'm figuring that out and yes 10 Dates I take him seriously as a person I respect him I respect his feelings that's why I you know have this open dialogue and

Sarah Ryderconversation and you know communication with this person it's not like I'm telling him like oh we're yeah we're dating and then I'm seeing these other people behind his back like he is fully aware that you know I'm just trying to

Brian Atlaswrap my head around like your when it comes to your standard to having sex if it's on camera and if you get paid for it you don't have to have any connection or know anything about the guy they just

Brian Atlassome stud goes in like they you probably don't even do you know who's you're going to shoot with beforehand yeah whatever it's some stud whatever and then you get some money you it's shot on camera you'll [ __ ] him right away

Brian Atlaswhereas for the men who you're romantically pursuing it's let's wait four months and go on 10 Dates it's just like look you're free to do what you want because that's your human right but you've slept with a bunch of dudes without demanding exclusivity or

Brian Atlasmarriage and now the guy you maybe actually like comes along and you want to pretend like you always had moral or morals and high standards and you make

Emilyhim wait when he knows what you're doing I mean if just yeah you're giving sex a value when you gave it no value before when you were doing it for your career and now all of a sudden this guy has to do these things to attain it like that makes no sense when you're letting

Sarah Ryderstrangers get it for free well not for you're getting paid but they're not paying you they're getting they're getting they're getting paid to have sex with you yeah they're getting paid too just

Brian Atlasagain like this this is not ever about like a guy feeling entitled to something but it's just the way that it might make a guy feel so again it's totally look if you've slept with a hundred guys not not

Brian Atlaseven doing adult entertainment and you you slept with 100 guys on the one night stand and then one guy finally comes along and you're like you're going to have to wait till marriage that's your

Brian Atlascall but a guy's going to feel like here's here's an analogy right so you're making the man weight it's kind of like going to McDonald's while everyone else

Brian Atlaseating there paid $1 for a cheeseburger and then the clerk looks at you and says it's $1,000 for you sir that's how it feels like it it again

Sarah Ryderit's 100% your call you can have like different standards but that was a really good analogy well then like answer me this though if let's say I went on this first date with him and I had sex with him just off the rip why

Sarah Ryderwould he value me anymore and how would I know that he was deserving of having sex with me and that intimacy because it's not in a work setting like when you're at like obviously y'all have never been on a porn set but when you're

Sarah Ryderthere like it's a job everyone's professional you know you're not taking these people out afterwards you're doing a job and you're being kind and professional to each other and you know that's it's just very surface level but

Sarah Ryderwhen I'm going out with someone pursuing them in a dating aspect like I want to get to know them as a human and I want them to get to know me you know on a a much more serious aspect so like yes I can go and get paid to have sex for work

Sarah Ryderand like become acquaintances and like like Molly and I are great friends uh and we've had sex before for work but like for someone that I'm pursuing to take seriously for this partnership or this

Brian Atlasmarriage so you I don't 100 I don't totally disagree with you typically I will raise this argument more so with for example women not in the adult entertainment industry who engage in

Brian Atlashaving casual sex have had a lot of previous past seexual partners very casually a bunch of one night stands and they have two different standards for two different types of men so what you'll see is you'll have like I and I

Brian Atlasdon't like this terminology but let's just just for the Simplicity of the conversation if you're a alpha male you get no strings attached sex while putting in no no effort or money if you're a beta provider male

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