Brian REJECTS Layla?! FLAKE EXPOSED! | Dating Talk #106

Date: 2023-10-04

Duration: 5h 18m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLeila Jenner >

EEmily (DT117)>

SSydney (DT106)>

TTiffany (DT117)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_03TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_04Molly(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kelly(guest)

SPEAKER_06Sydney(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Q(guest)

SPEAKER_09Q(guest)

SPEAKER_10Emily(guest)

SPEAKER_12Sarah Ryder(guest)

SPEAKER_14Leila Jenner(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian opens the show and guests introduce themselves

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast thank you for tuning in tonight”

ControversyBrian exposes a guest who drove 2 hours to the studio, arrived 40 min late, declared no one was 'on her level', then left without participating

“we had a girl ... she came in she's like oh I okay well I'm gonna leave so she drove two hours to come and requested to be on and then just said okay well I'm not going to do the show”

QuoteLeila's DMs to Brian read on air: 'Brian is one of the sexiest men I've ever encountered... I'd sign an NDA for you'

“Brian is one of the sexiest men I've ever encountered ... I swear to God I'm not trolling I'd sign an NDA for you”

QuoteBrian publicly rejects Leila: her porn history is a non-negotiable deal-breaker — 'you're irredeemable, that's like a serial murderer'

“here's my analysis guys of this weird situation one it's an act you don't want to fuck me I'm not going to fuck you ... not the point where we want to date girls who do porn”

Key MomentLeila offers to quit porn, be celibate for months, and do Brian's chores for 3 years to earn a relationship; Brian says he could still walk away after 2 years 11 months

“I would stop like I just genuinely like you ... I would be celibate for like a month ... to me to date you I would have to put you through some sort of trial”

QuoteBrian on the gender double-standard: if a man pursued a female guest the way Leila pursues Brian, he would be considered predatory

“as a guy you could do ... Leila the thing is ... if you're a normal person and you do like the slightest not even a misstep ... they'd be like oh that's predatory”

QuoteLeila tells Q she would 'take him out' and 'pay for dinner' — Q declines citing he was dating someone

“I would genuinely like take you out like you're a pretty little princess and we would go eat”

Key MomentEmily shares story of 3-month situationship where the guy cried when she ended things after refusing commitment; Brian unpacks the likely miscommunication

“I told him how much I liked him and I was like do you are you going to start seeing other girls when we go back to school ... he started crying ... and he wasn't making any noise”

ControversySarah Ryder challenges non-porn Emily: if doing porn makes us unworthy, what makes you more worthy given you also don't get respect from men?

“my question is if that's what makes us unworthy then what's making you unworthy to men because you don't sound like you're getting respected either”

ControversyMolly and Emily clash: Emily compares paying for OnlyFans to buying a bucket of chicken; Molly says 'fuck is fuck' — all sex is equivalent

“fuck is fuck ... whether it's your boyfriend whether it's a stranger you meet on the street ... I could pay ten ninety-nine for a bucket of chicken does that mean I'm worshiping it”

QuoteSarah rates herself a 10/10 and defends it: 'there's no woman who's more beautiful than me' — extended philosophical discussion with Brian on subjectivity vs. objectivity of attractiveness

“I feel like I'm a good eight today ... no I mean you asked me to rate myself so that's how I personally feel about myself ... there is no woman who is more beautiful than me”

QuoteSarah Ryder gives calm, detailed explanation of herpes strains to the panel — HSV-1 vs HSV-2, cold sores as herpes, asymptomatic transmission

“if you've had chickenpox or if you've had mono that is herpes ... most people do have it something about it is it can actually be dormant in your body”

QuoteLeila reveals body count: ~60 (revised from prior 100+ claim); does extended math with Brian on total penis length

“body count probably honestly after the last porn scene I really sat down and thought about it and I think I might be like near 60s”

QuoteTiffany reveals she is a complete virgin — zero body count, zero kissing, zero handholding

“um I'm a virgin so literally never had sex ... I have zero ... I've never had any like romantic experience”

Topics Discussed

Intro, Announcements & Guest Introductions

Brian opens the show, reads channel announcements. All guests introduce themselves: Leila Jenner (20, ex-porn/OF), Molly (20, porn star/OF), Emily (19, Questa College student), Sarah Ryder (22, porn star), Tiffany (18, UCSB poli-sci), Sydney (20, traveling/unemployed), Kelly (21, CSUN student/Nordstrom stylist), Q (30, relationship coach).

Flake Exposé: Guest Who Cancelled Last Minute

Brian exposes a woman who requested to appear on the show weeks in advance, confirmed multiple times, then cancelled the morning of the show claiming she didn't realize it was a 9+ hour commitment. She drove 2 hours to the studio, arrived 40 minutes late, expressed dissatisfaction with the other guests ('nobody here is on my level'), and left without participating. Brian reads message screenshots. Panel discusses the entitlement and disrespect. Plans to implement a deposit policy for future guest bookings.

Relationship Status Round

Panel shares current relationship status and longest relationships: Leila — married (informally) + situationship with someone else, upset about husband's Miami behavior. Emily — single ~1 month; 6-month longest relationship; date on Friday (Hinge match). Sarah — always single; never had a boyfriend. Tiffany — never had a boyfriend; zero romantic/physical contact; virgin waiting for marriage. Sydney — single ~6 months; longest relationship 3 years. Kelly — in a ~2-year relationship (longest). Q — officially single but still sees his 'main chick'; went on a Lobster steak date last week.

Leila Jenner Pursuing Brian: DMs & Tweets Read On Air

Brian reads screenshots of Leila Jenner's public tweets and DMs pursuing him romantically/sexually. Leila's tweets include 'Brian is one of the sexiest men I've ever encountered' and explicit DMs. Brian publicly declines, citing her porn history as a non-negotiable deal-breaker. Leila offers to sign an NDA, quit porn, and be celibate for Brian. Panel and chat weigh in on Brian's rejection. Brian and Leila discuss their 'situationship' dynamic throughout the episode.

Can Women Be Faithful? Cheating Statistics

Chat question: can women be faithful? Panel unanimously says yes. Q shares research: men and women cheat at similar rates in their 20s; men cheat more in 30s-60s. Discussion of what drives infidelity.

Parents' Professions & Reaction to Adult Content Careers

Discussion of whether guests' parents know about their adult content careers. Kelly says her parents probably know and are supportive. Sarah hasn't told her parents. Leila grew up Mormon and discusses the contrast with her current lifestyle. Debate on whether porn stars can be good mothers.

Relationship Types: Open Relationships, Situationships, and Commitment

Discussion of Molly's open relationship (boyfriend in porn, non-exclusive, but she gets jealous); Leila's husband + situationship dynamic; Sydney's views against open relationships (influenced by parents being swingers); panel on when to define a relationship. Brian invites co-host Emily to cancel her Friday date and go out with him instead (playful exchange). Emily agrees to In-N-Out date 'after the show' (comedic bit).

Commitment Conversations: When and How to Have Them

Emily shares story of a 3-month situationship where the guy cried when she tried to end things after he refused to commit. Panel debates whether it was a miscommunication. Q advises: communicate feelings as soon as they arise; find a man who already wants a relationship. Discussion of 'I'm not ready' as genuine vs. excuse. Brian and Leila briefly discuss what it would take for Brian to give Leila a chance. Brian proposes going around the panel on how soon to have the commitment conversation. Leila: immediately; Molly: open relationship so not relevant; Emily: after 3 months; Sarah: important to align early; Kelly: once you're spending every day together.

Porn Industry Debate: Body Count, Respectability, and Self-Worth

Extended, recurring debate between non-porn guests (Emily, Kelly, Tiffany, Sydney) and porn guests (Molly, Sarah, Leila). Topics include: whether doing porn makes women undateable/unmarriable; Sarah's counter-argument (why do non-porn women lack respect from men too?); whether sexual experience in porn improves bedroom performance; the 'dick is dick' argument (Molly/Sarah: body count logic is inconsistent); Brian's 'can't turn a ho into a housewife' position; Leila claims she can't take dick like Molly (self-deprecating); discussion of porn stars being worshipped vs. priced cheaply on OnlyFans; Q attributes dearth of relationship-ready women to sexual marketplace dynamics.

Miscellaneous: Anime, Game of Thrones, UN Men's Day, Politics

Tiffany puts on a Super Saiyan hair wig; discussion of anime (Dragon Ball Z, JJK, Attack on Titan). Brian and Kelly discuss Game of Thrones vs. House of the Dragon. Brian mentions that the UN made International Men's Day the same day as International Toilet Day. Brief political polling: Leila calls herself 'probably liberal'; Sydney says apolitical; Tiffany leans conservative (states she hates Obama).

Self-Ratings Round (Attractiveness 1-10)

Brian asks all guests to rate themselves 1-10 on attractiveness. Leila: 8; Sydney: 9 (approx); Molly: 9; Sarah: 10; Q: declines specifically; Emily: 6 (Brian says she should be higher). Extended discussion with Sarah on self-perception vs. external reality; Brian argues rating yourself a 10 is delusional; Sarah argues beauty is subjective and all women should see themselves as tens; Brian counters that men can't operate with such self-assessment due to real-world feedback.

Herpes Education: HSV-1 vs HSV-2 in the Porn Industry

Triggered by a donation claiming all porn stars have genital herpes. Sarah Ryder provides detailed explanation: HSV-1 and HSV-2 can both appear orally or genitally; most adults carry HSV-1 (cold sores, chickenpox, mono are herpes strains); porn industry does not routinely test for HSV; HSV-2 is more prevalent in adult industry due to unprotected sex; transmission can occur asymptomatically. Brian reads WHO/medical definitions; debate about normalization vs. concern.

Body Count Disclosure Round

Brian asks each guest their body count: Leila — ~60 (revised from 100+; does not count oral); Emily — less than 5; Sarah — ~25 personal; triple digits total (including work); Tiffany — 0 (virgin, no kissing, no handholding); Sydney — declined to state; Q — 'somewhere above 55 multiplied by 3' (evasive). Brian does extended math on the total length of Leila's sexual partners.

Wrap-Up and Final Words

Brian wraps the show. Sydney gives final remarks on swinging and being more careful entering relationships. Kelly final comment on ambition and Brian. Q self-rates body count evasively. Brian announces a special guest for Sunday. Raid on Twitch.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasguys who aren't in porn right no oh well that's I think that's what you were we understood when you said that you f around I still [ __ ] around but like I keep it with like industry

Brian Atlaspeople oh so we touch if you're not shooting if you're not shooting a scene you'll sleep with other guys who are in the industry or you you won't you'll

Brian Atlashave sex with them um I have have before yeah but I don't really right now just because like there's no need to well and and this is from the previous show too you said that you know you have sex with

Brian Atlasmen for a living your boyfriend knows and he even drops you off at their houses yeah your boyfriend drops you off at the house of other men who you're

Brian Atlasgoing to have a kiss and a hug um but now here's the ringer here's the catcher catcher ringer I when he hooks up with other girls you get jealous and start

Brian Atlasarguments and you only want him to be with you yeah you want to know that you have all the attention at all times and you don't care if it's wrong hypocritical or how or and that's how

Kellyyou feel yeah basically how much money does he make him I don't know why just wondering do you like know that he'll like likely never be loyal to you he's

Emilyvery loyal actually but like why do you think that um because I know that but you both do porn for a living and you're dating and you [ __ ] around with other people and he

Mollydrops you off at their house so why would he stay faithful to you but I feel like the idea of being Faithful is different from people that do porn and the people that don't do porn because

Mollylike sex to me is not something that always has to be like super intimate and like super meaningful you know what I mean like yeah I was saying like last time like I I [ __ ] my friends like I love my friends yeah like

Mollyi' literally I [ __ ] you and I [ __ ] you yeah like I [ __ ] two of the people on this panel and like like we [ __ ] we're friends I we know you're desensitized to sex but like emotional cheating perhaps like what if you develop feelings for another woman well that's what I'm saying that's where I

Mollyget get jealous yeah I don't but you just said that if he [ __ ] other girls then you'd get jealous Too Well yeah if I feel that there's like an emotional attachment being formed that's when I get jealous I feel like you were having

Leila Jennerthis issue too yeah I don't let my man [ __ ] any girls do you think be a [ __ ] yes you don't let I am a [ __ ] it's princess treat which of your multiple men the one I'm married to doesn't cheat on me he loves me a lot he just doesn't

Leila Jennerwhile you cheat on him he doesn't have he doesn't have like the need to like he just like actually loves me cuz that's his personality so take care of you yeah like completely is that why you married

Leila Jennerhim's ly there is no sh literally there is no he can like suck my penis if I you going to call him I can like I can call him right now let's see the answers

Leila Jenneractually I think I yeah well did right so they think they're being their boyfriends are being loyal but like not like bro and like the thing is whenever I got married like they like had a scene like right after that like I lit had seen the day after I live in LA like I'm

Leila Jennerobviously a weird person I do porn like I'm a [ __ ] weirdo like I'm not a weird person I don't do porn well this is me I'm a [ __ ] weird [ __ ] and I suck whoever's dick I want to suck and I [ __ ] whoever I want to [ __ ] and I love whoever I want to [ __ ] and they love me back if they want got

Brian Atlasto love the hoes they do and they [ __ ] love me right back all the 70-year-old men and I suck their dick all night this is Yo clown world in the chat

Leila Jennerclown world in the chat like emojis clown world in the chat this is like the this is like ground zero for the you're like bottom barrel of society so F like bottom whatever you want like that's why

Brian Atlasyour man like at night though this is like the degeneration of society failed Society California pride in I'm getting the [ __ ] out of California as soon as I can at

Kellyleast I don't judge other people I'm not judging you just told her that I was really happy that she is proud of how what she is are you genuine cuz like thank you yeah I'm being 100% genuine I I I get like people being like at least you don't like lie about it and I'm like yeah like at least I'm not like someone

Brian Atlasthat's like a fake [ __ ] they're like oh my I'm not wh like you know like I'm [ __ ] true she's real okay so when it comes to her fantasy Leela's fantasy over here this whole no this whole

Leila Jennerdeception of you're married to a Mormon Bishop bro he's he just Happ would it be better if I said he wasn't Mormon like I can just not involve his religion like no I don't it's just [ __ ] there's you think it's weird that I'm married no there's just no truth to it like it's

Leila Jenneryour legally got married I want to have like a I want to have a very like real wedding but like at the time like it we just didn't have time no you're just lying you're just lying there is no more I don't care everyone I've ever like met here in La when I first started like

Leila JennerI've only been doing social media since like June like they know like they know about it like before I even joined like mly models like I told him like can we have a three-way call with my boyfriend like if Dave wasn't canceled right now I would call him I mean it's all hearsay

Brian Atlasin any case as far as far as the guy who You' call the the degree to which you're prepared to defend I think I even went live with him on the other day the degree to which you're going to continue

Brian Atlasthis uh hoax or whatever you probably have a dude who you've talked to and you're like pretend to be my Mormon Bishop husband that's the degree of the the the game that you're playing Molly

Brian Atlashas a boyfriend and does porn like if she was married to him would it be weird yeah yeah why there's plenty of people I believe her but I don't believe you that's fine you don't have to I know but

Leila Jennerlike why why create this like [ __ ] you wanted to know and I told you wait did you really just ask if a married porn star would be weird and you can think I know I'm weird so many married

Leila Jennerporn stars dude most L of them thinkal relationship for us yeah cuz a lot like you said a lot of people don't want to date porn stars so we date each other wait so so what is a marriage to you uh

Mollyum a government piece of paper that you like sign a piece of paper for taxes yeah it's pretty much it great for taxes as long as you don't sign a prenut yeah I'm surprised you guys know so okay going all right going back to Molly here

Brian AtlasI'm just saying like imagine what could have been Molly about what my life if if you had not gone down this dark dark yo Brandon thank you very much man

TTS Readerappreciate itated $400 thank you man thank you very much appreciate it also hi Brian and madon and Nick I miss y'all also #a is a liar in chat #a liar in

Brian Atlaschat keep bringing thank thank you very much Brandon uh we we're gonna have Brandon back on here I think maybe we're aiming for uh November I think probably late November um like a fan you bring on

Brian Atlashe's been on before yeah he's a good guy he's a nice guy um I want to talk to do not you Leila do not try I'm not horny for him don't try anything for Brandon oh my God you're so annoying today it's

Brian Atlastension Brandon I could set you up can I actually Brandon wait what no what I'm trying to like get her off my back so maybe I could like do the redirect do you think do you just want

Kellyto [ __ ] every man you see Yo Brandon I actually like bri no I'm just I'm genuinely asking do you just want to [ __ ] every man you see if I think they're attrative yes like but I have a type for sure do you have any hob I like

Mollylike sweet guys like R like like Brian why can't [ __ ] be a hobby like yeah yeah genuine question like buying cute lingerie for it like we like to get pretty and get yeah like putting nice

Brian Atlasperfum like I like to be a [ __ ] is your hobby sex sometimes that's her passion her passion is the only substance go ahead Tiffany go ahead that was it Oh I

Leila Jennerthought sorry I thought you were going to say okay I paint I have two dogs I hang out stream I like do whatever but when I'm horny I want to [ __ ] [ __ ] like I want to [ __ ] what do you do on your stream um I last night I cried on

Leila Jennermy stream but you know that's fine um I just kind of do anything I just talk to my chat I love my chat like I really do they're best friends talk about anything like shit's going on like for some reason like we always have something

Brian Atlasgoing on like with the people I like talk to boring okay okay um so Molly what I was gonna say was you know imagine what could have been right

Brian Atlasyou're so 100 less than 100 pounds what 95 I think i' like yeah yeah around that petite 95 Audi like you could you could have been

Brian Atlasyou could have been my stay-at-home tradcon girlfriendwife imagine wearing like a flow imagine losing my virginity you what the [ __ ] okay I seen wearing a

Brian Atlasflowery sundress you could have been in the sundress but now you're cohort cohorting on [ __ ] imagine what

Mollyimagine imagine what could have been I think that no matter what I would have ended up doing porn no matter what yeah wait why why like you guys said sucking dick is a passion like some of us are

Mollyjust like how did how did how did you discovered at passion suck Bor to yeah how old were you um I was 13 wow

Molly13 and I wanted to I like invited the guy over cuz I wanted to do it so okay so then when did the motivation for other guys become a thing what do you mean motivation you you said you said

Mollyyou like sucking dick yeah it's like an oral fixation kind of thing yes but clearly not for your like being able to control like when you're good at

Mollyit what a guy feels and like cuz you know yeah I know I'm good at it so it's like and like every time I do it I get better at it so it's just like the more that I do it and they're

Brian Atlaslike yeah take off and like I love come I think oh is it not going to trigger oh wow okay hold on what symbol is that a m wow it's not triggering for

Brian Atlassome reason I don't know why all right well Seven Deadly simps uh thank you um I don't it's for some reason it's not triggering maybe it's just you sent too many characters or something um let's

Brian Atlassee here we have this one okay uh thank you man oh sorry we didn't show that for long enough my bad Alvin [ __ ] Nick if you're able to like find it somewhere um is it going to

Brian Atlastrigger I don't know that's it must be way too many characters okay in any case Leila you some guy messaged me and said that you pretended to be a nurse or nursing student no I went to school I

Brian Atlashave pictures of me in nursing school I can literally show you okay you want me to yeah it's okay uh in your pre-show notes to us you said isn't it crazy how everyone in a poam relationship is lowkey ugly yeah like lowkey like people

Leila Jennerthat have like two [ __ ] like they're never like two bad [ __ ] like they're lowkey like like hold on just a sec yo dude Brandon thank you man thank you so much appreciate it I would rather jump off a

TTS Readerbridge into uncoming traffic but TBH it's been a year and your boy is kind of desperate so maybe a year for [Music] brand uh does does that do anything for you Lea it's been year makes me giggle

Qthat's actually [ __ ] hilarious he said so maybe it's been a year since he got [ __ ] yeah damn he like he's desperate I might have to okay all right well uh so you said

Leila Jennerit's crazy how everyone in the polyus relationship is lowkey ugly I saw this uh clip the other day and this guy was like low key like everyone that like is uh like dating like you know like monogamous polyam like to their only dating each other and they be having

Leila Jennerlike uh like you know like there's two guys or there's two girls involved like or whatever group it is like I've never seen like a really really fine man and like another really really fine man or

Leila Jenneranother really really fine [ __ ] like I've never seen them like I mean have y'all ever seen like a really really fine like couple like a whole couple really I never have ever but they have like really strong boundaries with each

Leila Jennerother so they don't just like let anyone into the relationship okay how many people is it it's just them and they just like wait three no it's two people no that's not polyamorous no no I'm talking polyamorous like there like

Leila Jennerthree people are dating at once like a thle not like they have see but I've never seen I get that I like some like l 22 [ __ ] but like no I've never seen a

Leila Jennerfine polyamorous relationship ever and like I saw this guy saw a video about aren't you in the polyamorous no cuz they aren't no cuz I'm not loyal to all them like you know I got one guy loyal

Leila Jennerto me I got you know she like no no polyamorous relationship not like open you're sleeping with other men I'm a [ __ ] that's different I'm talking polyamorous relationship is like when like it's like if you three were dating

Leila Jennerlike you three like you're not like you don't [ __ ] with anyone else you three [ __ ] each other only you you all love you love him you love her she loves him she loves like you all love each other like it's like a thruple like it's like a genuine relationship with more than

Leila Jennerlike two people I've never youve never you never met someone like that do you think that's normal you're talking about I mean people got whatever relationship they want you have it I've met people like you have y'all met people like in a poly relationship you're in the porn industry of course you have yeah so no

Sarah Ryderit's not normal for other people to be in those relationship in the porn industry that is but well I mean that's probably the people you're around so but no it's not normal relationship say that cuz I met someone in a poly relationship it was just a random person at a park

Leila Jennerhe's just a random normal dude yeah some people just like they they happen to love one person they happen to love another and they all and the other one happens to love them back and like it's just you mean let people love however they want to love it's okay that you haven't met people like that but that

Kellydoesn't mean that they don't exist or they exclusively exist in the porn industry why do you keep saying that you're not a porn star but your [ __ ] on the internet cuz I was a porn star but I don't actively be porn star right now when's the last time you did the

TTS Readerscene you'll forever be before thank you but um P4 donated $100 as a Brandon I can speak on behalf of all Brandon's we're grateful for your

Leila Jennerattempt to help our hookup game but we will have to decline your offer thank you for declining Brian's offer so we

Brian Atlascan be together do any billies want to the Billy delegation any anyone from the bil Billy

Brian Atlasdelegation anybody from the uh Justin please let us know um but yeah like have you met you've never met someone in a polyam relationship pretty probably I

Brian Atlasprobably have you probably have but you know I'm familiar with it but yeah I just thought that was interesting I saw the other day polyamorous from the from the sense of you're not exclusive to your husband that's like open relationship type [ __ ] I think what's I

Brian Atlasdon't know okay whatever terms there's there's terms terms all kinds of relationship terms so wait question you were on the podcast what three weeks ago yeah before that I I quit porn before that how many men have you slept with

Leila Jennersince your last podcast appearance no one knew nobody knew okay how about somebody old yeah how many dicks have you sucked whoa

Leila Jennerum honestly since the last podcast like two ju oh only only two yeah that was like three weeks ago bro that was pretty good but how tell me you haven't sucked two dicks in three weeks are those new dicks or old dicks they they dicks I've

Leila Jennersucked before used dicks yeah that you used I sucked Tony's dick when he was in Tong Tony and then he is my be right now one of them

Leila Jennerhe's so sweet actually I love him right now he's sweet and then tier um and then uh this guy I had to go back to my hometown for a doctor's appointment so I

Leila Jennerlike [ __ ] my ex and then so also slept with them too correct it's been two guys I [ __ ] my

Leila Jennerex I uh oh I did [ __ ] Tony yes so sex and sex and sex well oral is like part of sex I feel like we're always going to suck dick before you get [ __ ] like you

Kellyso you had sex with two men that were not your husband in the past three weeks yeah she does have I don't be [ __ ] my husband like that oh really no so then why is he married to you cuz one mainly

Leila Jennermainly taxes mainly but we do love each other like I love IRS open up um I'm sorry I'm better at the game than

Brian Atlasmost people better at what game the tax game oh what I don't know if it was a game I'd probably be pretty good at it uh okay

Brian Atlasso I don't even uh so two men speechless two men since your last podcast appearance yeah okay what about you how many men have I

Leila Jennerhad since my last Lu zero very luckily zero since my last podcast appear look who's more relaxed me you're right maybe I should should you should go Fu start

Brian Atlas[ __ ] dudes hey you got in our next to you it was pretty good looking I mean hey sex is stressfully okay all right uh so okay

Brian Atlasyou said also in your pre-show notes to us you think what explain the two out of four things oh okay okay uh what did I put it was like dick personality uh what was the other okay fine I'll read it for you thank you I appreciate I feel like

Brian Atlasyou can only get two out of four things from a guy dick personality success Andor looks and I said I was like personally I think I'm doing good dick personality and I know why you're

Leila Jennerinterested in me then because you have good dick and you have an amazing personality and I think I also said like good dick personality but at least someone with like potential to be successful and like I don't mind helping them out like type [ __ ] but yeah I feel

Brian Atlaslike it's very rarely come by good dick success personality humor looks like you know like it's always going to be like you're never going to get the full package like you know so you you want you're saying going back to our previous

Brian Atlasconvo you want to get with me is that what yes I'm really um you're just a really great guy Brian like I genuinely like your personality a lot thanks um you're into uh if I told you so I'm kind

Brian Atlasand it's not that I'm GNA tell you so I'm I I need to reveal something to you I'm I'm into findom okay and but it's reserved for only certain women who are

Brian Atlasengaged in adult content creation so we cannot have any anything like we can't have sex we can't do anything but I will

Brian Atlasagree to a fendum thing wherein you have to pay me $1,000 every month yeah I'm not into that that sound not into that but you you said you would do anything to get with me H Brian you know that's

Sarah Rydernot what I meant baby wait so you're a sex worker huh oh yeah that would mean that mean if you're getting paid by someone and you're saying that you defend them that makes you you want me

Brian Atlasto pay you for penis you [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] ew how dare you not respect yourself well this is the this is the finesse that a lot of women are doing

Brian AtlasGod no I didn't say fendom I said fom um I thought said Financial domination so I said so perhaps years down the road you might eventually get it but for the time being I'm going to need $1,000 from you

Brian Atlasdo you have any cash in your wallet can you go get it I can go get it and flex it in front of you I'm going to need you to pass it over and put it in my hand so I could put it into my pocket and spend it on another woman at some point I don't [ __ ] [ __ ] Brian would you like

Brian Atlasthat if you gave me money and I spent that money on another woman you will never be able to do that this is I'm sorry Chad this is getting way too [ __ ] degenerate okay um all right you wouldn't do that though

Leila JennerI thought you really wanted to be with don't like [ __ ] if you're a [ __ ] e i I'll [ __ ] you whenever you're done being a [ __ ] Brian let me know when you're retired okay all right guys it's not flirting I'm just [ __ ] with it no you're flirting we know you are it's

Brian Atlasfine there's no flirting zero flirting we'll save it for off zero flirting zero okay glad we got real specific on that zero flirting so Emily over here we have

Brian Atlasum let's see uh by the way this is like this this this uh crossed my mind when you were on the show on Sunday super random like strange compliment you have

Brian Atlasthe look and it's like the most like strange okay if you had been in live in the 80s or 90s you would have dated like a rock

TTS Readerstar oh for sure like like someone you would have been the girlfriend of like Axel Rose or I don't know Forin

TTS Reader100 this hund is going on the table I'm betting that her marriage is like the he goes to a different School you wouldn't know him situation she keeps offering to

TTS Readercall him but for some reason never makes the call I literally said hi sorry for being me can I call you the spirit yo the spirit thank you very much man um did you did you I

Brian Atlasliterally said I said hi sorry for being mean can I call you now no you gotta so you said I need like consent does it just yeah tell them you're on the podcast it's I'm just waiting for him to reply no tell them you're on the podcast it's being recorded do we have your

Brian Atlaspermission to call you and it for it to be recorded okay Bet okay Bet what you're just adorable I'm sorry okay so uh

Brian AtlasEmily you were in a treat cheating relationship yes I was cheated on a couple times and you wanted to talk about men in relationships justifying

Emilyfollowing IG models oh yes because my ex did this whenever I would bring it up like I'm sure people like here have gone

Emilythrough it like he followed probably over a hundred different random IG models and they would be they would have only fans and that none of them looked

Emilylike me they all were blonde and like um just super like bigger just way bigger boob and ass like just didn't look like me and so I would tell him to stop following them and he got super mad at

Emilyme and just flipped the entire situation on me calling me crazy saying I was um obsessing over it that it's unnecessary to ask a man to not look at something like that cuz it's just there so I was

Emilyjust wondering like would you guys if a woman asked you to unfollow all of the ladies on Instagram like is that unnecessary or is that is that valid Q do you want to go first and then I'll go

Qum I've been in this situation plenty of times it's something that if I feel I want to do I'll do but a lot of times I say it's inevitable because it is just there and you have to be rational about

Qit you have to understand that he's not going to get those women men are attracted to novelty they're attracted to a variety of things and sometimes it's just one of those things that you have to sweep under the rug pick your

Qbattles and let it be because he's not going to stop doing it I understand you want it to make you happy like you want it to mean something to you like oh yeah you want me to stop doing it I'm going to stop doing it but he understands that

Qit's harmless and he's never going to be with those women so it's it's trying to control something that really is out of your control and you shouldn't be too invested in like you shouldn't be

Emilyconcerned about that yeah I mean it just like it hits you really hard cuz like I could never look like them and I understand but you also have to see and that's another thing you also have to understand he's still attracted to you

Qtoo see a lot of times y'all start to compete yall start to compare oh you like this so that must mean that's only what you like that's not only what he like likes he's still attracted to you too so the fact that he's still attracted to you you just have to remember that but I definitely see how

Mollyit could be like disrespectful like I would feel disrespected if my man was like liking pictures of like girl cuz I don't have big tits I don't have a big ass so like if my man was liking pictures like solely and only following

Mollygirls who like looked the exact opposite of me I would take that as a hint that like I that he's settling for me and that's what his like real fantasy is I think he is settling for you because you

Sydneyum I'm talking about in your situation oh my man doesn't do that well I I was going to say like same same with me with my ex-boyfriend it was the same thing like he would like the complete opposite

Sydneyof me and then like he'd be like oh like what do you think about a boob job or all this you would say that girl that's weird that's

Sydneyweird who one of your exes said he wanted you to get a yeah the three year long ex he talk about it all the time was he going to pay for it yeah oh e but

Brian Atlasno no e thank God you didn't yeah no not worth not worth it for a guy well definitely so I'll answer your thing in just a sec but just to respond to Sydney's thing uh first off good for you

Brian Atlasfor not going through with that uh I think that look if if a guy likes a woman with fake breasts search that out but don't like try to either if if

Brian Atlasyou're in a relationship with a girl don't like start like trying to suggest that she undergo uh plastic plastic surgery operation that she otherwise wouldn't that's I just feel like that's

Brian Atlaskind of [ __ ] up um for sure definitely and look if you like girls with big giant fake tits you can go find that but if your girl doesn't have like just I

Brian Atlasdon't know like her the way she is I guess but um and my my personal thing when it comes to plastic surgery and I've said this a bunch of times on the show we talked about last show uh I'm not a fan of plastic surgery don't like it

Brian AtlasI would pref if a girl was totally flat I'd prefer her that way than with big giant fake tits if a girl had a little belly I'd prefer that over lipo belly if a

Brian Atlasgirl had uh a small upper lip I'd prefer that over lip fillers if she had a small butt I'd prefer that over a BBL so uh yeah it's definitely unfortunate

Brian Atlasthat uh some that your boyfriend tried to uh pressure you into that but uh to but in all fairness he was on drugs oh well that is true that is true he was on

Sydneywas that the cocaine one or the xan the cocaine one and he already had schizophrenia so imagine being on cocaine oh and having schizophrenia yeah so so don't for sure oh yeah I did have

Brian Atlasmy hand oh sorry right and uh BLM big labia matter so like labia labia placy too like that's Haram so okay uh to

Brian Atlasanswer your thing so my stance on this and the thing is is I don't relate really to guys who follow a lot of women

Brian Atlason Instagram because as somebody who doesn't follow anyone on social media like you can look at my personal Instagram page I just follow the whatever page the whatever page just

Brian Atlasfollows my personal Instagram so I'm not liking girls photos ever I'm not like scrolling on Tik Tok like oh she's hot blah blah blah um I mean I'm think I'm just too busy actually making things

Brian Atlashappen in my own life to give a [ __ ] about what anybody else is doing or some hot chick somewhere that would never give a [ __ ] about me or give a time give give me her time of day so uh especially

Brian Atlassome like plastic Instagram chick it's like um so yeah I don't know uh I think probably the I I would say the best option though for a girl who

Brian Atlasdoesn't want to deal with that sort of situation would be date men that aren't like from the get go look at their Instagram and

Brian Atlasif they're oh like don't have social media or like yeah they have a limited social media presence like see who they who they're following um but uh so yeah

Emilylike you asked her like if you asked her to um delete her social media would you do that like if a guy I was dating asked me to do that and he did it too like I would feel like that's the best thing ever because I just feel like technology

Brian Atlasreally ruins a strictly monogamous relationship yeah and well it's good that you at least have that view I feel like we a couple weeks ago we we reacted to some video

Brian Atlaswhere a girl was saying related to what this conversation we're having that it's worse for a guy to be liking and following girls on Instagram than it

Brian Atlasthan it is for her to be posting revealing or provocative photos on her Instagram and I think those two are kind of they're equal I think they're equal well I I mean I actually think the

Emilyprobably the posting yeah it might be more because the guy could also post himself and I I feel like yeah the girl might be a little worse in that situation cuz the guy could be posting himself already like he could do that

Emilybut he's not he's only liking photos but the girl she's like saying hey like inviting people to you know yeah so I mean I'm thinking that my whole thing

Brian Atlasthough well okay question for you let's say you and me were dating here I'll propose to you uh em might get jealous jealous

Brian AtlasEmily where did you just pull this out from Gertrude gerud it's Lynn l oh sorry Lynn to what's your L Torres Torres yeah

Brian Atlasuh will will you marry me um only if you have like cows for me or something cows what let's let's discuss our dowy

Brian Atlasreally quick typically the dowy goes from the woman to the man so now that you've brought it up I would like I'm G to need 13 goats 12 sheep two tractors

Brian Atlasthat could happen I need that could happen I need arable land for us to grow lima beans and [ __ ] and why lima beans protein protein some magic I need beets it's going to be

Brian Atlasa beet Farm we're going to do a beet Farm uh be what else radishes I'm going to need a

Emilycouple uh chickens definitely chickens we'll do some cows mhm and a mule a mule but like yeah can you do

Brian Atlasthat yeah yeah I think that's possible so do you I accept accept my marriage proposal yes where's my ring all right just going

Emilyto where's my ring that is so romantic that was I know flexing on Lea with the light on it too like that put it on see if it fitsa too let's see oh this is it's kind of small where did you pull

Brian Atlasthis out from does it fit yeah oh my God wait show to do do this show to the it's blocked by the mic there you go all right cool cool so we're married so okay you and me are dating I guess engaged

Brian Atlasnow and I asked you to delete or to private or delete your social media not party at all no drinking no drugs no clubs no bars would you um yeah if I had

Emilymy own land to like live freely yeah cuz then what do I what would I if I if I couldn't go out then yeah we'd have to be no you can like go to the farmers

Emilymarket yeah I would do it I would do it if a guy had all of that in like mules land all that stuff me that's what you bring into this hypothetical ridiculous scenario but you have to bring some too um I would I would delete my social

Brian Atlasmedia take of everything all the money yeah I would do it okay but like for the right guy yeah we are engaged I'm just saying um so and you you smoke weed

Qright how often do you smoke weed um maybe like twice a week yeah you gota cut that [ __ ] out it's done okay not even on like Christmas what smoking on Christmas or

Brian Atlasmy birthday definitely not on Christmas I was like smoking on Christmas is crazy that Jesus's birthday I love smoking on Christmas oh God so um I but I would just say advice to the ladies like I think dudes who are going to be sing who

Brian Atlasare sing or thirsting over IG thoughts probably aren't a good bet for dating relationship Etc like I don't know and also just a message to the men why are

Brian Atlaslike I don't know about you q but like I'm not on Instagram like like cuming over hot chicks on Instagram like I don't give a [ __ ] yeah I'm yeah I'm the

Qsame way because I understand that I mean they're empty they're empty I don't want to date them I wouldn't date them um it's definitely visual visually

Qstimulating I'd be I'd be disingenuous if I said I get absolutely nothing when I see it or I I don't really follow those kind of pages but like if I see it it's like oh [ __ ] instantaneously I mean

Qmy brain sees it it processes it registers it so but other than that I'll just be like eh scroll to the next I don't really you know invest too much in it not liking spamming I don't slot in women's DMS or anything like that so

Emilyyeah yeah but I feel like in my ex's situation specifically since we were so young I think he just overindulged a little bit so yeah I feel like some guys where it's like couple here and there

Emilybut if you're following is only IG models like you have a problem I mean my whole thinking is is like as a guy for I don't know I'm kind of old

Brian Atlasschool i' maybe it's because I'm a bit on the older side but I Pro if I didn't do what I do now I probably wouldn't have an Instagram I wouldn't I would not have an Instagram um but I kind of have

Brian Atlasto to some degree out of necess I don't have to but it it's helpful business-wise otherwise I would not be on uh Instagram but gentlemen my recommendation to you is

Brian Atlasdon't if a girl on Instagram that you're following or liking her photos you don't know her and she would not otherwise respond to your DM and news flash like

Qthey're not going to respond to your DM why are you following them why just stop it fantas stop it help

Brian Atlasit's the fantasy they like the content dopamine they like what cont they like toship us what is the what is the content cont here's my titties here's my ass who what is the what content pretty

Leila Jennergirls very riveting they like looking at pretty girls it's Pleasant to look at an attractive woman but know what social media is for look at pretty things and like it and scroll you want to talk to a pretty need di discipline gentlemen

Brian Atlasgentlemen dick discipline stop following these chicks stop liking their [ __ ] go surf or something I don't some guys don't use their dick to call go pretty I mean I look at girls and I'm like oh

Qcute I like that I like it and then I move on with my day we have girl okay what if I was a boy it would be different really yeah why because that's how we that's how we are so you're saying men are trash and slimy and they

Qcan't control their dicks no that's not what I'm saying that's not what I'm saying at all I'm saying men I'm saying men are wired to sexually respond to visual stimuli yeah but I think a guy can also be like cute like I love my

Leila Jennergirlfriend yeah can what like like cute like it scroll how would you know that if you're not a guy I just think sometimes I'm a guy I think I

Brian Atlasknow they them oh my God than I'm just Kidd I don't know I mean I [ __ ] so

Brian Atlasgentlemen I you know what here's a challenge to the chat if any of you look get on your phone if any of you right now are following any hot girls on

Brian AtlasInstagram stagram that you don't know in real life that would never talk to you that would never respond to a

Brian AtlasDM just unfollow them boom I don't know I don't know um whatever okay wait Q you follow women

Qright but you when you were dating your main did you follow other girls uh yeah a few just just just a few but most of them I've talked to personally what about ones you done like you like their photo you move on with your day you're

Qnot like I want to [ __ ] you I'm I'm I'm desensitized so yeah yeah I'm desensitized yeah I don't look at other women on Instagram and get aroused that's what I'm saying like that but but also I'm I don't represent the average

Qguy I have a lot more experience with women um I have a lot of attractive women who I've dated who I've been with so it's not the same high it's like been there done that exactly yeah can you can you like like one of your friends you

Leila Jennersay you follow like girls that you like used to talk to whatever like it's like one of your homies and you're like damnn like cute like you can just like it and like move on and be like damn like as a friend like like dope like you look good respectfully you're sexy yeah yeah I

Brian Atlasfeel like I can do that yeah W guys please just unfollow everyone I think we have a sing epidemic and we have a ho epidemic and they're

Brian Atlasboth like converging and flation there's there's H flation there's it's it's not good it's not good supply and demand it's the

Tiffanyculture I agree that culture expand on that a little bit what do you mean though by supply and demand well there's demands so that that's the guys going on Instagram liking photos and then the demand is the girls posting those photos

Mollythat's Supply you mean what comes first though the supply or the demand well I mean like sex work has been around since like the end of time so this is really

Mollyyou mean the beginning of time beginning of time so the beginning of time literally I think that like the demand has always been there lobsters were even prostituting yeah I'm sure they were

Brian Atlasit's very okay I'm being I'm being kind of being but like I'm confused well she says the beginning of time but we were there was like lobsters and [ __ ] before we were around so yeah I'm sure like monkeys were prostituting for berries

Brian Atlasactually they probably were that [ __ ] um all right so Emily you said let's see topic yes what is the panel's thoughts on men not being ready for commitment in a relationship but

Emilytelling a woman he wants her to be his girlfriend eventually and you said parenthesis kind of specific situation yeah so if you're like if you're seeing a guy and you know you kind of ask the question or you're

Emilylike I really like you like are we going to you're going to start dating and then they're like yeah I want you to be my girlfriend you know eventually but just take it slow like what that's obviously that I feel like they're trying to manipulate immediately a no because if

Sydneythey even have the question if they want to be with you in the first place then what if they just don't know you yet they to know you time to different it's okay it's different if you like get to know them and then and then like say you've been talking for a few months and

Qthey're still like oh I still want to wait then it's like yeah no cut it off that's why I say men should be careful with the with what they tell a woman I would never tell a man to tell a woman you want her to be your girlfriend

Qeventually like wait and see if you know her see if your values align see if your personalities mesh and see if she's somebody you can see yourself with in the long run because at the end of the day you need to know how this woman resolves conflict how does she deal with

Qconflict and a lot of guys don't know that when you first start dating a woman you're in fatuated your judgment is skewed brain flooded with endorphins so a lot of times when guys say that what they're doing is they're trying to keep their options open they're trying to

Qkeep their options open but they know they're attracted to you enough to where if they don't find better they can fall back on you damn like yeah know insulting good times I want to be a back Bur

Emilyas another question before you get in a relationship is there anything cuz guys are they say a lot I'm not ready does that actually mean they need to get ready or is it usually just cuz they don't like the woman like that and

Emilythey're just you know using that as an excuse or do do you actually have to like have you been wanting to get in a relationship with a woman and then stops

Qyourself because you knew something was like wrong with you no no no um first you should establish if that man wants a relationship the easiest way to get in a relationship is to find a man who wants

Qto be in a relationship and then there there are two types of guys there's the guys who want to keep their options open and then there's the guys who are genuinely not ready because they're not happy with where they are in life they

Qthey want to accomplish more they want to do more in terms of they may see that they haven't fulfilled their potential or they may feel like they can't give you what you want and what you need financially emotionally so they would

Qrather not take the risk those guys do exist too as well so when they figure out what they want when they get where they when they're uh content with where they're at then they come back makes

Brian Atlassense I have some further notes here so you said kind of related to this men saying they aren't ready for commitment after dating you for three months yeah it was a specific situation

Emilythat a specific situation me so how did briefly explain how did that play out um well so I met him in person like it was a uh what do you gen never mind I met

Emilyhim in person and we started dating after for like a week um we would go on like two days a week and talk like every not every day every other day maybe and then um one day we

Emilywere at his house and I told him how much I liked him and I was like do you are you going to start seeing other girls when we go back to school cuz semester was about to start and he said no that he didn't have a desire to do that but he was like and I know this is

Emily[ __ ] he was like I really like what we have and I don't want to tie you down so let's just let's just keep what we have and I was like okay well I'm sorry like I can't see you anymore because I'm going to like this is going to make me really upset and I'm going to resent you

Emilyso then I stopped seeing him for like a week and he hit me back up and said what I said to you guys he was like um I really don't want to lose what we had and I really want to a chance to be in a relation relationship eventually when

Brian AtlasI'm ready if that's something you're open to and I want you as my girlfriend but I want to take it slow and then after two weeks he changed his mind again so I mean I think the translation there is that he just wasn't that into

Brian Atlasyou I mean you said you're dating him for 3 months wants to keep his options open I think if a guy's really into you and you you broach the subject of commitment exclusivity and he's kind of

Emilylike oh let's I just He's Not That Into You yeah but okay I guess I I didn't include this when I when I told him I can't see you anymore he started crying and no seriously like started crying

Unknownlike tears were coming down and and he wasn't making any noise but I was like what's wrong like why are you sad and he was like I just he was like I don't want to express my emotions if we're not in a

Unknownrelationship and I'm like but you just said you don't want to be in one like are are you okay did his lip quiver yeah he was like but I don't want to tell you how I feel I feel like a lot of guys do that

Sydneyso it gave me the I kind of not to say men getting emotional sad but in that in that stance yeah that's awkward oh yeah I've seen like quite a few times when

Sydneyguys like they get caught cheating start B why is it so long how long is this sorry go ahead okay I I forgot what I was Sydney you

Sydneywere coming in on this oh no I was just saying I've seen that like all the time when a dude gets caught they just immediately just start balling you feel bad for them yeah after I told him I didn't want to see him he just started crying and then so I told him to take me

Brian Atlashome cuz I was upset why are you going to cry after I tell you I see you driving home yeah oh my God that's so awkward wait time timeline here so you were dating for 3 months then you had a

Brian Atlasconversation with him about wanting commitment he said no so you guys split for about a week get back together because of him yeah get back together for a week for like a week and then you

Brian Atlasdid you end things or did he he did he text he did and then he wanted to get back with you again no no it was only once no that I have when was The Crying the crying was the crying was the first time oh so you took him back after he

Brian Atlascried yeah I mean I don't know yeah it was he you were dating for three months he didn't want to commit to you so and you so you broke up right yeah so I said you don't

Brian Atlaswant to commit okay like I can't see you and he starts crying and I was like okay so in the moment in that moment it wasn't just like he was like okay whatever and then a week later he's like I kind of miss her and then okay so you were having a conversation about

Emilycommitment how did that conversation come up did you um we were actually watching like one of those dating shows I think it was we we like to make fun of some of the contestants because it's really funny and so we were um we were like making

Emilyfun of this one girl and then I looked at him and I was like yeah we had a really good day today because we went to the beach and um I was like when when you start school I started to stutter but I was like when we start school what am I supposed to do when when guys you

Emilyknow try and get my number like what do you want me to reject them or like what are you going to do and he was like yeah I like what we have and like what I told you earlier I don't want to tie you down and then I was like okay and then 10 minutes of the show went by and I was

Brian Atlaslike this is the last time I'm going to CE you and then that's when he started crying this is some new details though I was trying to summarize it up earlier but this is some new details so you were

Brian Atlaswatching a show that initiated a conversation about you said well I think you kind of went about this conversation a little a little wrong I I

Brian Atlasdid so you're watching a show with this guy was it you guys had not yet had a conversation about exclusivity correct no not at all but was there sort of an

Brian Atlasunderstanding to some degree because some people there's not always an overt conversation about like Hey we're exclusive sometimes it's just almost implied it's just implied um was that

Emilythe case or no no I mean I would never assume like somebody taking me to meet their friends and like stuff like that would imply that but it seemed like he wanted something more serious by like

Brian Atlasintroducing me to like all of his best friends and just right so was just for B you said something along the lines

Brian Atlasof hey so when I go to what calply or whatever I don't go to C oh you go to whatever whatever school you go to when I go off to college and a bunch of other

Emilyguys are hting on you say it like that what you want me to do no I didn't say it like that what did you say how did you say see how I'm talking right now how I keep stuttering that's exactly what I

Emilywas doing like I literally couldn't get it out he kind of had to tell what I was asking asking him and he was like he put two and two together oh so when you when guys talk to you what are you going to you know it was like it was hard for me

Emilyto get it out but I basically said when other men talked to me like do you want do I have a boyfriend is what I was kind of asking well okay what did you because now that's a little different than what you said before this so long ago I can't

Brian Atlasremember exactly you're like what are we no no no but because okay from my perspective if I was a guy and I was hanging out with this girl that I liked but we had not yet had a conversation

Brian Atlasabout exclusivity commitment whatever and then she starts telling me about how she's going off to college and she's saying what should I do when all the dudes are hitting on me I would feel a little bit

Brian Atlaslike he didn't say it like that though she said she said a little differently it wasn't that like cocky but he could take it instead of instead of it being a introduction to the commitment

Brian Atlasconversation he could be taking it from a perspective of like oh no I get what you're saying that's like I could be you could imagine a guy being kind of upset with what you said in a way like I get

Brian Atlasyou're trying to Veer it towards the commitment conversation but you could have just instead of cuz we don't want to know about other guys that are like hitting on you like it's true I think I think you have to say it like what do you want me to do if like guys ask what

Emilywe are but that should come after you have the commitment conversation she said right now what should I do if guys ask what you are that's what I kind of said like what should I do if guys that's what we are that's what I that's what you said yeah and then he was like

Brian AtlasI don't want to tie you I like what we have and I was like but but his answer make him saying I don't want to tie you down makes it seem as if the way he interpreted it was that you wanted to

Brian Atlassee these other guys that would be approaching you in college because he's saying I don't want to tie you down maybe I miss I wasn't there but like do you see how he could have press interpreted it different he assumed I

Brian Atlasjust wanted to be like like he was doing a to service by well he didn't know he and we don't know if this is actual the actual case but maybe he didn't know that you were trying to initiate the

Brian Atlascommitment conversation and he took it like oh she's saying that she wants this

Emilyto be open or casual you looking back on it do you think that that's possible or I don't because when like after he

Emilystarted crying um well that's the other thing that makes me question because he started crying yeah then after we're sitting there and it's literally the awkwardest thing I've ever been through in my life and he's just sitting there with tears coming down his face and he's

Emilylike so how many relationships have you been in I'm like now you want to ask me after it's been 3 months and I told you I don't want to see you anymore like he just started asking me about my history

Brian Atlasand then how old was wait chat hold on chat do you think that this was a miscommunication no I'm kind of seeing you think that this was a miscommunication because like the fact that he said I don't want to what did he

Brian Atlassay I don't to tie you down I don't want to tie you down and then he cried when you said you wanted to end things with him yeah see like because if if he was like no I want to keep things kind of

Brian Atlascool uh like kind of open or whatever you date people I date people but for him to then go on and cry at at least makes me think that he thought you were trying to keep things open instead of

Mollyactually having a commitment conversation you got a lot the chat is definitely saying I'll never call him I honestly feel like if he was genuinely

Mollycrying cuz he wanted a committed relationship with you he should have had the balls to just say that maybe he was just nervous yeah well I mean he missed out cuz he was nervous bro he's like 21

Brian Atlaslike there's no exception he's a fan booy he's a what a fanboy Fanboy boy he's a fanboy was he a bit was he like an art not feminine no um he's

Emilyindecisive he had only been in one relationship before for a couple months probably just more immature he just imature the was getting

Emilymore I mean they say men are a little bit behind in women with maturing sometimes I don't know if that's true I've never actually looked into studies but they say that men 21y old men are so

Leila Jenneryoung and I'm 20 that's why I like old men babies old men how old how old I mean I feel like uh lately I've been really

Leila Jennerinto 30y old is that old no don't make it old make it some people think Lally like you're sex because you're 30 and I bet you're so mature and like I bet like you're so understanding

Leila Jennerand patient cuz you've like you've seen things like you know but like versus like like you've been through more experiences in like like I could never date someone that's like 20 he was there when the Constitution was being

Leila Jennerdrafted sorry it's all good just ask me Nick just kidding sorry fisel someone said I have I think I think 30y old is definitely like they're just a lot

Leila Jennereasier a lot more mature a lot more understanding than like 20-year-olds yeah word so when it comes to the whole commitment conversation we

Brian Atlascan maybe open this up to the panel um how soon do you guys think you should have that conversation with somebody about being exclusive about being committed I'm super upfront

Leila Jennerabout it like if I like someone I'm like okay like like you know like I want you like straight up as soon as I feel it I'm saying it and yeah just like as soon as I feel it Molly what about

Mollyyou I mean like commitment is kind of like a weird thing for me because like I do [ __ ] other people outside of the relationship and like so does he but like it is for

Emilywork so I would say like commitment should be talked about like in the very beginning I would say like after three months I feel like that's when you know somebody more

Sarah Rydermaybe um I just feel like people don't talk about like their idea of commitment with each other and they just expect things from the other person without

Sarah Ryderever discussing what they're expecting yeah yeah I have no idea but definitely not up front not up

Sydneyfront um I don't think upfront upfront but like pretty tun into talking because you got to know like if you guys are on the same page I think it the conversation should

Kellycome up once you guys start hanging out every single day because that's when that's when like you know once you're spending that much time with somebody then it should be a conversation to start because why am I still wasting my

Qtime hanging out with you every single day if you know you're not you're not serious Q what do you think I think the moment the feelings are present they should be communicated because you're

Qgoing to place expectations on that person to meet whatever you have going on in your mind and you're naturally going to start to think that you're in a committed relationship even if um you aren't and that guy would have to redirect often it's the the woman who

Qwants commitment before the guy if the guy isn't already in love and saying I love you and I want to be with you first and if you're spending time consistently together you're thinking where is this going and a lot of times there's actually something called error

Qmanagement Theory women will have skepticism as to how committed a guy is to them and that's that's something that y'all have adapted uh psychologically in order to keep from feeling played or or

Qyou know reading too much into things so definitely because that cognitive bias exists it's important to communicate what you want the moment that you start to feel it I would want a woman to be open with me if she starts to feel it if she starts to feel that she wants

Qcommitment I want her to tell me so I know how she's about to behave because that tells me what she's about to expect out of me she's going to get jealous when I talk to other women she doesn't want me to talk to other women she's going to cut off other guys all of these things are going to have behavioral

Qconsequences that is going to affect me and the way we interact so I need to know the moment is present and I would do the same when I'm when I'm ready to commit I will communicate that so you should tell a guy right away

Qyou should tell him when you feel it when you feel yeah yeah that's hold on let me bro was trying to kiss get it get he was trying

Emilyto kiss sorry the bug was on his mic um well so you said three months right you think three months is about when that should I think I yeah I misunderstood the question I I thought it meant like

Emilyif once you're ready to talk about like being together in a committed relationship cuz I thought that was already once you're dating somebody for a while you're already kind of decided you're going to commit to them right like you're already seeing them over and over that's already a commitment itself

Brian Atlasso have you ever met a guy that you wanted that instantly um like right away you knew you [ __ ] knew that this was the guy yeah you've had that yep okay I

Emilydon't yeah I've got the ring Leila yeah oh why did it not work

Emilyout you're yeah oh um well to be honest like I was too young and yeah I just don't think you should get in

Brian Atlasrelationships in high school why school yeah yeah um you know what I think it should just be right away just boom

Brian Atlasright away if you see somebody if you see somebody me and Emily we're already engaged you hate when I when I'm up front with you you think I'm weird well there's reasons for that do porn it

Brian Atlascould be it could be the porn thing it could be that there's photos of you gargling [ __ ] on your Twitter Garling beautiful really good Garling just just

Brian Atlasliterally like gorging that clocked on my tiny gosh okay all right okay okay Lea we get it all right we get it we get it we get

Leila Jennerit okay I heard that against my will do you want to do porn with Brian whoa I I think I would actually like want to be intimate with him I actually like Brian like I don't want to just like [ __ ] him out sorry I like actually like like

Leila JennerBrian like I don't want to like [ __ ] you out like I would actually want to be like intimate and have like passion like ear sex wait what what like not like not like [ __ ] your ear but like want make

Leila Jennerlove when in your ear intimate gentle ears no like like you like that gentle in the beginning and then you're like yeehaw in there you know Yeehaw wait

Brian Atlasrepeat that one more time for us like yeehaw in there Yeehaw in there in there wait get a shot of Q okay Q was just

Brian Atlaslike he's like oh I know what you mean he knows what I mean like can I like like oh my God you want do you want to go with Ila no cuz I'm trying to like

Leila JennerPawn her off I'm trying to pawn her off to something no you got it do you like women do you like women by chance I'm not gay but like I like my I'll [ __ ] my friends like like we've done scenes listen who hold on hold on it's fun

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