ØF Girls BOYFRIEND Joins Stream?! 130+ Body Count?! | Dating Talk #65

Date: 2023-03-22

Duration: 4h 51m

Guests

Brian Atlas

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KKelsey (DT65)>

CCassandra (DT65)>

MMonica (DT65)>

IIsabelle Brown >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Mick(guest)

SPEAKER_02Vita(guest)

SPEAKER_03Cassandra(guest)

SPEAKER_04Madison Vu(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kayn(guest)

SPEAKER_06Key(guest)

SPEAKER_07Eric(audience)

SPEAKER_08Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Monica(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kelsey(guest)

SPEAKER_14Isabelle Brown(guest)

Key Moments

IntroKelsey introduces herself as a recovering sex addict and recovering opiate addict, announces her new podcast "Chronicles of Craving."

“my name is Kelsey I'm 22 I go to LCC in Eugene Oregon and I am a waitress and I also just started a podcast Chronicles of Craving”

ControversyKelsey describes peak sex addiction behavior: bringing up to 6 men per night to her home, one after another. Brian asks detailed questions.

“I was like bringing over six dudes a night like it just was never enough”

Key MomentKelsey discloses body count of ~136, says she keeps notes.

“it's not like 300 or anything it's it's like 136 I think”

ControversyIsabelle challenges Key/Mick arrangement using biomedical science: oxytocin bonding means you cannot separate romance from physical intimacy.

“you can't separate the Romantic emotional part of engaging in the most intimate experience that you can with another human being”

OtherMick (Key's fiance) joins the show from the audience after chat reacts to the OF situation. Brian reveals Key is engaged.

“yes um I'm with her you're engaged to her yes we are engaged”

OtherKey announces on-air she is quitting the adult industry. Brian confirms. Key then immediately walks it back to keeping OnlyFans.

“she's quitting for real yes okay then from this point on what are we both going to do for money... the only fans money is too good okay then”

QuoteIsabelle cites Pew Research data: ~73% of Gen Z who are dating are unhappy; proposes cultural change from inside out rather than regulatory rollback.

“most of gen zers if you are in a relationship you are unhappy I think the figure from Pew was about 73%”

QuoteIsabelle gives extended defense of Andrew Tate: argues media attacks on him are an assault on masculinity, his message has transformed lives.

“the assault on masculinity that our culture has promoted... people who are going to encourage men to be who they were supposed to be”

OtherBrian performs the All Blacks Haka live on stream after a $1,000 donation from "Smith." Scuffed performance with YouTube video playing.

“okay all right I'm ready this so cringe bro”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & relationship statuses

All guests introduce themselves (name, age, occupation). Brian goes around table for relationship statuses. Kelsey (sex addiction/recovery), Mick & Key (engaged, OF situation), Madison (planning marriage at 18), Kayn (situationship), Isabelle (engaged), Monica (life partner 5 yrs), Vita (single, virgin).

Kelsey's sex addiction story

Extended discussion of Kelsey's opiate recovery, transition to sex addiction, peak behavior (up to 6 men per night, ~136 body count), move from Olympia WA, launch of podcast "Chronicles of Craving." Body count disclosed as ~136. Brian asks detailed follow-up questions about scheduling, apps, volume.

Mick & Key: OF relationship dynamic

Key's boyfriend/fiance Mick joins from the audience at ~0:26:08 after the show chat reacts. Extended discussion of how they got into the adult industry (financial hardship, $100 left), how Mick feels (accepted but not happy), Key's perspective (it's a job), guest panel weighs in. Key announces quitting the industry live on-air at ~1:06 then walks it back to just OF.

Jealousy & double standards in relationships

Discussion of jealousy in the context of Key's situation, and broader double standards around men and women in sexual contexts. Whether emotional vs. physical infidelity are different. Cassandra, Kayn, Madison contribute.

Feminism debate

Monica calls modern feminism a supremacist cult. Kelsey partially agrees, differentiates equity vs equality. Isabelle argues modern feminism conflates submission with inferiority. Cassandra has mixed views. Vita believes birth control and abortion normalize promiscuity.

Physical ratings round

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Kelsey: ~4, Key: 6-7, Kayn: 7 (sometimes 10), Cassandra: 6 (7 with makeup), Isabelle: 6 without / 7 with makeup, Brian: solid 8.3. Mick rates women: mostly agrees with self-ratings; calls Key his 10, rates Kelsey ~9, rates Brian 10 for a man.

Gen Z dating crisis & hookup culture

Extended panel discussion on Gen Z unhappiness in dating (Pew data cited by Isabelle: ~73% unhappy), hookup culture, whether it can be reversed, social media and dating apps as root causes. Brian argues the culture war is already lost. Isabelle argues for cultural change from inside out. Kelsey on normalization of average men.

Marriage incentives, divorce rates & family courts

Brian discusses divorce rate statistics (80% initiated by women), alimony flow (90-97% men to women), bias in family courts, disincentives for men to marry. Proposals to change marriage law. Isabelle on setting boundaries. Single mother household outcomes cited by Kelsey/Brian.

Body count, pair-bonding & CDC data

Discussion of Kelsey's 136 body count. Brian references CDC studies correlating higher body count with greater likelihood of infidelity, relationship dissatisfaction, STDs, and difficulty pair-bonding. Kelsey argues people can change. Brian uses cigarette lung analogy for lasting damage.

Abortion & pro-life debate

Near end of show, brief discussion of abortion. Vita: pro-life (birth control + abortion drive promiscuity). Isabelle: strongly pro-life (studied fetal development; 96% of biologists agree life begins at conception per Princeton study). Monica: calls herself pro-choice but says it is killing a being. Cassandra: cautiously pro-choice. Kayn: would not rule out dating pro-life man. Madison: pro-choice (SA exceptions).

Andrew Tate opinions

Panel goes around on Andrew Tate. Madison: likes his confidence and morals. Kelsey: respects him for walking the walk (multiple women), but has disagreements. Mick: knows some things, believes he is held illegally. Cassandra: common sense, doesn't like his character act. Monica: 70/30. Vita: agrees with Mick on legal issues. Isabelle: lengthy defense; argues media attacks on Tate are an assault on masculinity; his message has transformed lives.

Patrice O'Neal clip & discussion

Brian plays Patrice O'Neal clip about what a woman would do to keep her man if she lost her genitalia in a train accident. Panel responds. Isabelle refuses to engage with premise (biblical vows). Monica: would let him sleep with other women. Kayn: would do other things. Cassandra: agrees with Mick (Mick said he would never leave). Madison: everything she can, not let him go elsewhere.

Transcript

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Isabelle BrownLov is going to be way more important than investing in a long-term relationship similarly that is causing the friend zoning of countless men who are really looking for that type of relationship but we've convinced

Isabelle Brownourselves that all men want is sex so why would we even spend the time why would we give them five minutes of our day to invest in something something that could be the greatest thing that ever happened to us but instead we're trying to put all of these pointless

Isabelle Brownthings first in our lives that ultimately 10 20 30 40 50 years down the road are not going to make us have wholesome happy and fulfilling Lifestyles so I find it interesting I think you guys are both saying similar

Isabelle Brownthings that come from the same root problem uh but maybe it's less so about who's struggling more and just the fact that our system isn't working you got interrupted go

Madison Vuahead I was just going to say like I agree with you that like women definitely have a little more Authority when it comes to relationships but as it goes like for men and women it's not

Madison Vujust like just men want sex women want relationships it's not like that at all like women do the same exact thing like women look for sex for example like I'm not trying to like Target you but like

Madison Vuas a sex addict you're texting guys like to come over every single night like the lyrics I super ched $99.99 this whole conversation is why

TTS Readerit's important for women to not sleep around people would naturally date their level but sadly it's too late the highest value men are simply too scarce

Brian Atlasand valuable now when one woman holds out another woman will always take her place yeah I think that's a good point like I I think I said before the genie out of the bottle I I really don't know

Madison Vuwhat the solution is sorry continue on with your point moral of the story like women do it too like it's you can't Target that specific like scenario towards men because I think it

Brian Atlasfluctuates which specific scenario that men only want sex oh I agree with you I think there's plenty of men out there that would they don't want to run through a bunch of chicks they want to

Brian Atlashave a relationship with one girl and a lot of people in the space say oh men are only as faith faithful as their options they can't be monogamous but I think genuinely a lot of men are more than capable of being monogamous they

Brian Atlasdon't want to run a bunch of chicks oh my God poke Smith donated $100 mute piggy Pig um I think the mute a mic option is is a bit more than that

Brian Atlasso you you'd have to send it like individually but um yeah just not resp K TI Pok Smith uh do you have a response to I mean I can't

Kelseytell if it's because I'm wearing pink or if I'm fat or both but if it is I mean cool you know I don't give a [ __ ]

Madison Vuokay um they really like interrupting you by the way go ahead that's all I really had to say that it's it's so

Brian Atlasdifferent like you can't make it a fact that men do this and women do that oh okay so I think the point that I was making is just that there are men

Brian Atlasand I think a lot of men that they'd be happy with just one girl like and for you to be consistently getting a lot of girls you do have to become like I think

Brian Atlasa pretty top tier guy uh to do it so and and me personally I've really never been interested in just like running through a bunch of chicks doesn't interest me I'm very busy I've always been busy I've always been kind of determined in terms

Brian Atlasof business and you know being focused whether that's on my health or finances oh my godith donated $100 no I'm the owner of Piggy and where

Brian Atlasthe World War I and where the world more all right all right I'll go I'll grab it I'll grab it in a sec here um and actually let me just do one more really quick uh before it pops off um one sec

Brian Atlasit's G to come through here my streamlabs is uh is lagging bro Pokey Smith are you can you uh what what do you do for work man by the way oh send me a DM dude because we have a chat

Brian AtlasChad's group on Instagram for Chads like you uh veteran Carpenter chicken the pink LAX basic intelligence she needs to shut shut her m and listen his words not mine it's better to be silent and let people think you're an idiot than open

Kelseyyour mouth and prove your not my words that's uh veteran Carpenter can I can I yeah go go ahead apparently I just need to shut my mouth

Kelseyum I I mean like we were going back and forth right this is how debates work if somebody else was like oh I have something to say can I jump in and say something of course I'm not going to be like no [ __ ] you shut up you know what I

Kelseymean if anybody else wants to I'm not trying to dominate the conversation I was just finishing my thought but of course of course okay um

Madison Vuso what was your original thing that you were talking about sorry this [ __ ] how like uh the struggles aren't exactly I would say equal like obviously

Madison Vuwe have different struggles people struggle differently with specific things but um men are not entitled to just want sex for women no and I I I don't I don't think that they they are I

Brian Atlasthink there's plenty of men out there that' be perfectly happy in a monogamous relationship I think a lot of men are struggling uh to find that and so are women um just to kind of address your

Brian Atlasthing so you said that you think that the struggle between men and women it's about the same when it comes to dating yeah but I mean like the ease and I know you said

Brian Atlasdating but would would you agree with the point it's easier it's much easier for women to get laid than it is for men to get laid um yeah yeah okay so with that said

Brian AtlasI mean can you acknowledge that that that is sort of at least for most modern relationships that is the beginning stage of most relationships getting like getting to intimacy getting to sex um I

Kelseydon't think in my experience and I've heard this from like most women I don't think if you sleep with a man on the first date typically it's going to last very long like that's just my that's been my experience you know if I even li

Kelseycuz I've done this before I've lied and told men I was a virgin I straight up I was like I was like yeah just to see what they would do I swear and they didn't and guess what they didn't want anything to do with me

Kelseyafter like the third day they were just like bye you know so who knows so wait you you lied to men saying you were a virgin in the hopes of so I did I talked about this on my podcast I did like a

Kelseylittle social experiment no no I wasn't like hoping to be with them but I was like I you know I was like I'm curious cuz people or men say they value Purity that's one of the things they value yeah but you're not pure men we can sniff

Brian Atlasthat [ __ ] out no I'm a good liar Brian I'm telling you I covered up all my tattoos and everything it's like girls say oh I've only I've never done this before and then they got that [ __ ] Gluck cluck

Brian Atlasor whatever the [ __ ] that bullshit's called it's like okay look most modern relationships I mean we can have a discussion over well would it be better if people wait until marriage sure

Brian Atlasthat's that's a whole another concept however I would say most modern relationships it's not hey let's date for three months then have sex be in a relationship then have sex it's most

Brian Atlaspeople they hook up relatively early on and then it develops into a relationship you continue hooking up with the person and then it develops into a relationship we can have conversation over is that is that good what does that lead to does it

Brian Atlaswork but I'd say that's how most relationships develop so so sex is the first point mhm so I know you maybe disagree with me on this but no I I

Brian Atlasagree that that's real I just hate that that's real sure that breaks my heart that that is normal yeah but so if sex if the first step to getting a

Brian Atlasrelationship is getting sex not it's not I'm not phrasing this right if women can get sex very easily then

Brian Atlasit would follow that women are more capable of getting relationships well um I sorry I forgot what point I was going to well you were you okay you were

Brian Atlassaying that dating men and women struggle about the same in different ways but we struggle about the same if there was some way to measure it when it comes to courtship dating relationships however I disagree I think women have it

Kelseyeasier yeah and so to my point like [ __ ] on the first date for example that may be true I just have never heard and personally have ever had that

Kelseyexperience right like I think I don't think men take you seriously when you sleep with them right away you don't but you don't have to sleep with a guy on the first date no but you're saying like

Kelseythe relationships modern relationships typically start out sexual so whether it's first second or third it's pretty soon right yeah it doesn't have to be the first but yeah typically I say most

Kelseywithin the first three dates right so if they start out sexual like really soon how is a man supposed to respect you he doesn't and the relationship doesn't

Brian Atlaslast I disagree with I I disagree with that true I disagree with that in in that you can have sex relatively early on and still it can

Brian Atlasflourish into a relationship and you can still respect them what and and I think a girl can sleep with a guy relatively quick and still have a low body count see that I was just about to ask

Brian Atlasthat how do you expect a girl to have a low body count and try to find her prince charming by Sleeping with him on the second date so yeah I mean it it it is a bit of a dilemma for women it is a bit of a dilemma for women but I mean

Brian Atlasthere's certain things that you can do for example like you first off have a conversation with a guy ask him bluntly what he's looking for now obviously some dudes are going to lie to get sex sure

Brian Atlasthat's going to happen um but you can definitely ask and I mean I think women have a really good social intuition I think I mean perhaps you want to believe lies because you find him attractive

Brian Atlasthat's another conversation but also what what is the longterm potential there like does he seem like a [ __ ] boy if he is he's probably like no matter what he says probably not a good bet so

TTS Readerdoes he seem like a [ __ ] boy the other um Smith take well I mean you can engage with me

Brian Atlason this if you want but um he hasn't hit he the the trigger has to be all in one donation but uh okay

Brian Atlasso is the guy like are you on spring break are you in tum are you in Miami probably don't [ __ ] a dude like if you don't want to rack up a high body count don't don't sleep with men while you're

TTS Readertraveling don't sleep with men who are traveling sco super ched $100 33 single engineer Haven dated in 4 years too much risk spend most of my

TTS Readertime working or spending time with friends most modern women don't see the common man looking for a relationship we don't even make it on their radar engineer what kind of engineer man I mean usually

Brian AtlasEngineers do pretty well financially I'd say but uh I mean that's kind of my stance is a lot of you know average women don't want

Brian Atlasaverage men so um okay but in terms of keeping your body count low so there's talking to him seeing what he's about getting a feel for him I think women have much stronger social intuition than men do um like if you're traveling or

Brian Atlasyou know that he's going to be leaving town in the month don't sleep with him if he's leaving town in 3 months don't sleep with him like feel out the logistic component of is there a potential is there long-term potential here you know like some girls will like

Brian Atlashook up with the guy who's knows he's leaving town in three months are you I mean unless you're going to get into a long-distance relationship which I was Ill advised but um so feel it out on

Brian Atlasthat end and then I mean I mean I can speak from personal experience I've had multiple long-term relationships I've dated a girl for 5 years 3 years 2 years 9 months one year I've had long a few long-term

Brian Atlasrelationships most of these girls like we I'd say we had sex the first within the first three dates so can I can I ask you a question yeah would you like and they had relatively

Kelseylow body counts too would you would you say like a woman for example like with a high body count like me would you say she's not deserving of anybody or would you say she's mhm

Brian Atlasuh deserving of not high value men just average men well I mean you're I'm not saying that you don't deserve anybody

Brian Atlasbut uh I you're there are some men I suppose that will tolerate the fact that you previously sex addicted and have a

Brian Atlasreally high body count but $100 piggy had more pipe than a plumber what the F okay anyways um okay Jesus Christ I'm not even going to entertain that one let's try to keep it

Brian Atlaspolite guys if we can let's try to keep it polite guys um so yeah I'm sure there's some guy out there but uh I mean the high body count thing is probably going to be an issue for some guys for some guys it's not

Brian Atlaslike for example do you care about body count no yeah some dudes don't care about body count I think they're perhaps should have some standards on that front

Brian Atlasbut I mean Everyone's entitled to uh their own their own view so yeah um I'm not when I met him I had a low body count after and while you were still

Brian Atlaswith him you bumped up your body count make that money oh my God oh my God okay um but I guess the point I and to bring it

Brian Atlasback to the sex thing so you said your body count is 136 right yeah around there yeah so just to bring it back to the whole like men and women struggle the same MH and I'm not saying this to

Brian Atlasbe mean to you however you're I'm just trying I want to State this is you're not going to hurt my feelings sure I I appreciate you saying

Brian Atlasthat so your male looks equivalent could not sleep with six women in a night could not have a 136 body count right cuz you're saying I'm

Brian Atlasaverage looking right I mean I I don't want to make comments about your appearance but I'm just saying you're I I am yes but you're male looks equivalent could not sleep

Brian Atlaswith six women in a night the same way that you slept with six men in a night right cuz men are willing to like [ __ ] down yeah but what but basically like

Brian Atlasyou have the equivalent sexual pull of a famous athlete musician or actor aess celebrity and you're an average woman and I'm not

Brian Atlassaying that to insult you but what I'm saying what I guess to make my point you you you can leverage your sexual pull to potentially not guaranteed secure a

Brian Atlas[Music] relationship Smith donated $136 yo chat hold on chat let me ask chat

Brian Atlasis uh can you pull the chat over is this guy gonna Char like I'm kind of getting worried that this is like might be chargeback

Brian Atlasterritories chat your thoughts on this like I I'm a little concerned his choice to donate that it's I I mean I don't know it is it I hopefully not because I

Brian Atlasdid the [ __ ] hawka bro if you don't do it don't do okay um so you were going to respond I think what what was the last part of your

Kelseystatement I'm sorry well basically oh like like I could B basically oh sorry I keep bumping can you open the I'm an average looking woman so but being even

Kelseyat being an average looking woman I can still get more pull than an average looking man I understand that but so like what was your point in saying that the like women don't have as much

TTS Readerloneliness you know what I mean that it's harder for men yeah that it's harder for men yeah to have sex well it's also harder for men in all other

TTS ReaderRealms too tooke Smith donated $100 I won't charge back DW I I don't know if you got that crazy oil money or

Brian Atlassomething or you got some Bitcoin just it I I believe you but it's the the the volume of super chats you're sending makes

Brian Atlasme you you know you know what I mean you know I'm a little it's crossing my mind but thank you if if you're not like I your patronage is deeply appreciated but

Brian AtlasI'm you know it is something I'm considering um Okay so

KelseyI don't know how exactly I want to tackle this so you what was your previous point so you like let me let me kind of like wrap it up you know what I think I think um she's right I think we're arguing against feminism but we're

Kelseyjust picking at straws because we're saying who struggles the most right so I think I'm like arguing for for feminism against feminism within feminism you know what I mean so I think at the end

Kelseyof the day we can come to the general conclusion that feminism is like bad for society it's just a matter of like who started it I don't know chicken or the egg kind of thing right cuz you could

Brian Atlassay women started it yes but you could also say that men went along with it you know what I mean well I'm not sure if that's really addressing kind of the point I'm trying to make here and the point the point I'm I've been making and

Brian Atlasthe point you're pushing back against is you're saying that the struggle that men and women experience when it comes to dating is about equivalent and I'm

Brian Atlassaying that men struggle more on the sex front and the dating front yeah I I mean okay here uh we we can we can change it

Brian Atlaslet's let's even remove sex from this conversation how do most people meet they meet online nowadays right they meet on not me but well they they well I mean that's sorry most people that's

Brian Atlaswhat you said sorry yeah most people meet people online so as a woman on a dating app you're far more likely and there are both men and women on dating apps who are looking for relationships

Brian Atlasso women get more matches they get more likes women swipe no on more men than do men swipe no on women uh women as a guy you're going to have to initiate

Brian Atlastypically the first message you're going to have to plan the date set up the date probably pay for the date women I mean and okay let me ask you a question yeah do women have more

Kelseyoptions than men uh actually yes relationship wise do women have more options than men I don't it depends again it depends on certain circumstances right it depends on the

Kelseyage demographic it depends on you know how attractive these men are depends on a lot of factors if we're talking about men 18 to 25 I think that yeah women

Kelseyhave it harder a lot harder if they're dating within their age group if you have like a woman that's 25 and she's like dating within like 26 to like 35-year old men then then yeah the 25 to

Brian Atlas35y old men are probably going to have it harder but it just depends right I mean I does anybody else want to come in on this I want to open it up to the rest of

Cassandrathe panel anybody hello I feel like you're just speaking for like a small minority but generally speaking it's like pretty spot on about like what he's

Kelseysaying you mean like for men that like put women in the f- zone

CassandraI'm kindly saying this right the only type of women who mostly get put in the [ __ ] zone are people who play themselves there m other than that true other than

Cassandrathat most women are like taken seriously well I agree with that but the thing is is like I don't know men also lie to women too right yeah but I think as a woman

Cassandrait's really easy to spot out lies and you know kind of exactly what to expect from guys like I feel like it's such like you're lying to yourself if you're going to sit here and like listen to what guys tell you and then be like oh I can't believe

Cassandrathis happened this way like you know in your gut you know in your gut when it's going to be sometimes you'll choose to ignore that but that doesn't dismiss the fact that you knew to begin with yeah I mean I I don't know I I feel like I've

Brian Atlasbeen talking too much I'm sorry yeah let's move on to a different topic I I I think just ultimately um you know if even if you remove the sex component that there there are in terms of

Brian Atlasstruggle there's also just more burden even removing well who has an easier time attaining relationships there is a higher burden on men to

Brian Atlasperform for example we have the burden of having to be the initiators I don't think you deny that men have to initiate um gen generally speaking men

Brian Atlashave to initiate men have want that generally yeah sure women want it but let's say a guy he's shy he's introverted he's socially awkward has social anxiety he's probably [ __ ] whereas

Brian Atlaslike and actually I mean there's so many ways I can tackle this like a guy who's neurod Divergent is going to have a far higher time excuse me is going to have a much harder time getting a girl than a girl who's neurode Divergent also like

Brian Atlaseven a chick in a wheelchair bro she could she could put up some [ __ ] bodies whereas like a dude in wheelchair he's going to struggle ampute te that's pity fu not necessarily but I'm just kidding there's plenty of women in wheelchairs

Kelseythat are beautiful also there I mean here's another thing there's this fem cell I don't know if you know fem cell yeah yeah like where it's it's not even it's not even real CU like it's impossible no wants me and there's like a bunch of guys that are like trying to yeah I mean basically it's almost

Brian Atlasimpossible for a woman to be involuntarily celibate and there's a forum on Reddit of fem cells who claim to be involuntary celibate and they actually had to like private it or shut it down because a bunch of men were

Brian Atlasmessaging these supposed involuntarily celibate women offering them relationships offering them sex so women are never women can never be as lonely

Brian Atlasas a guy can it you might not have the optimal sutor that you want but there's a different degree of loneliness that men experience when it comes to relationships than than women see I

Kelseydisagree with that in my active sex addiction I was never lonier in my life and arguably could you could say I shouldn't be because I was having sex with the most amount of people at that

Cassandratime right I mean you had 136 sexual because you're having like an emotional response to it it's not because like physically did something oh sorry let let me just come in really quick then I'll have you come in did you cuddle

Brian Atlaswith any of the guys that you hooked up with yeah do you know how do you know how touch starved most men are Perhaps Perhaps it was a one night stand the guy

Brian Atlasdidn't text you back but you you got sex you got a cuddle most like most men are so touch starved that like even the fact that you could cuddle so per and I don't

Brian AtlasI'm not challenging the fact that you were perhaps dissatisfied or lonely or depressed because of you know this the your your phase of promiscuity but most

Brian Atlasmen don't even we they can't even get that amount of attention most men are I shouldn't say most a lot of men maybe it is most are invisible to women they're

Brian Atlasnot getting a girl's never sliding into their DMS a girl's never asking them out on a date a girl is never paying them a compliment a girl is never going on a date with them they're not getting cuddles they're not even getting sex at

Brian Atlasleast you can perhaps it's not what women want but at least you can get that yeah I mean I agree so so I do

Kelseyactually agree with that but it's not like when you have like casual sex even if it's like a cuddle even if there's like some type of intimacy and you know

Kelseywhat the other party's intentions are it's not the same it doesn't it doesn't mean that you get more satisfaction out of it versus when you're you know like alone I would rather be alone you know

Isabelle Brownwhat I mean I would rather be alone than have meaningless sex ever again but Bas love them I'm just saying and that's why kids you should wait until

Brian Atlasyou're married to have right but I mean you at I think sex is a sex is considered almost a

Kelseyneed or what is the maso's hierarchy something it's food Shel food no food shelter and reproduction I'm pretty sure

Brian Atlaswell I mean I I think women enjoy having sex yeah and so I like I I agree with you in the sense that like probably most

Brian Atlaswomen are happier actually having a relationship with one person instead of having a string of sexual partners but like let's not deny the fact that women on their own end Happ I don't know if

Brian Atlashappily is the right word they participate in hookup culture so so confused super $0000 so I have a rule no sex on the

TTS Readerfirst three dates but after that free game but these chicks come out for the free meal say thanks and dip single men will always be lonely and invisible I had a dating app for 2 years got six

Brian Atlasmatches and two dates so men have it harder yo by the way Pokey Smith um can you shoot me a DM on on Instagram please at whatever shoot me a DM on Instagram go ahead Eric um I need to step up for a

Brian Atlassec to uh put on My World War I uniform because he's been asking for it sorry for the delay um I want to open it up to you guys at the table if you want to give me a two three minutes to go put my

Brian Atlasuniform on if uh you guys want to uh maybe oh my I need I think I got to bump the TTS again I don't know guys say

Brian Atlascuddle snuggle is real with a spoony no more dead arm for big spoons yo thank you spoon by the way I appreciate all the the TTS don't don't get it twisted I really appreciate all the patronage and

Brian Atlassupport um okay so I feel like some of you over here haven't had a lot of opportunity to talk so I if you guys want go go

Kaynahead talk about I feel like going back it no no no you go feel like going back to your point you made like kind of a while ago I think a lot of the new hookup culture is also really due to all

Kaynthe instant gratification that like social media has given people and like all of the like I don't know like kids these days have a brain span of like six seconds Danel Ludo super chated $100 the reason why key is so defensive

TTS Readerover Mickey's because if he left her no one would want her she's selling her soul for money which is cheap in men's eyes the more a woman has sex the less

Kaynthey are worth BTW V2 is a total cue continue what you were saying I think that's just such a big part of it and I don't know that we could ever get back

Kaynto like what it was before to get rid of this instant gratification but it's oh my God veteran Carpenter donated

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Isabelle Brownever do better Brian roasted no I think you're right I think we've built a culture where everything is supposed to be immediate right so the idea of setting a higher standard of

Isabelle Brownrespecting a boundary of putting in the time and the effort and commitment for a long-term relationship that you're hoping to have for the rest of your life for decades of your life that sounds so unappealing for God's sake you can get Pharmaceuticals delivered to your door

Isabelle Brownfrom Amazon in 30 minutes right why would you want to think about something that would spend the rest of your life constantly requiring your attention the demand of your energy the demand of your

Isabelle Brownemotions sacrificing things laying down your life and being submissive to someone else putting your needs behind another person's needs that's so countercultural but I find it really interesting looking around this table

Isabelle Brownand we're all in very different phases of Our Lives of our relationship statuses uh we come from really different places I'm sure we all have dramatically different cultural and social and political backgrounds and yet

Isabelle Brownevery single one of us is sitting here saying something is not right with how we're doing things right now so I don't know what that means of where we go forward from here but wow what a

Isabelle Brownfascinating social commentary in a time where they say that we should be more divided than ever especially on the biggest social and cultural issues of our day like dating and I think the

Keyproblem is that go ahead go ahead I think that just proves that we're all very similar and no one's really unique because we're all in this whole world together dealing with the same thing so no matter what your political views are

Vitaabout how you dress no matter how many people you've slept with we're all the same and you know we're all in this thing and we all deserve better exactly and the problem is that it's only getting worse from here like it's not

Vitagoing to get better the only way it could get better is if everyone got healed but that's that's not happening like one day we're going to look back to this and think like oh those were

Mickactually some pretty good days I I would say a big problem though um that I've noticed with uh men today that is certainly affecting your mental state is

Mickuh low testosterone and a big factor in that is the diet in America and I think if the government got I don't usually like the government getting involved in things

Mickbut if they you know FDA got more involved in what we're eating I mean there's a lot of environmental factors we necessarily can't control but um food

Mickfactors we can certainly control and a lot of the processed uh oil and and sugars and Grains and certainly that people are eating I have an autoimmune disorder that affects me uh where I'm a

Micklot more sensitive than most people so I sought out diet solutions for that nobody cares but a lot of other people are not going to seek out those uh Solutions and I think that's affecting

Mickpeople men's testosterone which does a lot of people don't think but it the hormones do affect your brain quite a bit and uh that's why a lot of men are depressed and not being good father that

Mickare staying home and why a lot of these social issues we're talking about really does I know it sounds dumb but really does have to do a lot with diet I think oh it's a huge issue women these days

Mickhave more testosterone than they did like 50 years ago I made that up I mean like the the year no women definitely have higher testosterone now because when you it's like the opposite so if

Mickyou're overweight and you're a woman then you are going to be um having higher testosterone while a man will have higher estrogen levels if pe's overweight so it's definitely an issue

Vitathat women have to deal with too birth control absolutely screws up your hormon throw it away everybody women on birth is there a

Madison Vuparticular reason um no but I want to I want to do something well I'm taking the pill but I would much rather resort to another form

Vitaof birth control than the pill when you when you met your boyfriend right said you're very taken when you met your boyfriend were you already on the pill or not yeah I've been on the pill since I would I've been on the pill for about

Vitalike 2 and a half years I would say describe your boyfriend like in a few is he like very masculine or is he kind of feminine um he's pretty masculine I would say her boyfriend's a

Madison VuChad no he's actually not he's actually very like uh like classy put together like he's like no Chad is like a frat

Isabelle Brownguy yeah so what's really crazy is that this is a really Universal experience for women our age that when we were 15 16 even going into college we were recommended to be prescribed birth

Isabelle Browncontrol for anything like literally anything under the sun for really bad periods for back cramps for migraines even though the pill causes migraines which makes no sense for acne that's why I started taking the pill when I was 15

Isabelle Brownbecause I was on Accutane and the government the FDA insisted that you absolutely must also take hormonal birth control with this basically experimental Dermatology drug while you're on Accutane because Accutane can cause

Isabelle Brownbirth defects if you become pregnant while you're taking the drug so they force you to take hormonal birth control and then your dermatologist or for any other ailment outside of acne they just suggest that you stay on it forever and

Isabelle Brownthe absolutely insane lie that we are feeding women right now totally plays into this diet thing with men that your hormones need to be balanced you need to regulate your hormones you need to even

Isabelle Brownout all of your hormones uh your hormones are supposed to PE can Valley every single month but instead we have an entire generation of women who for like 10 years have been fed this lie that your hormones are supposed to stay

Isabelle Brownstagnant simply from a scientific perspective your hormones are you you are your hormones how you respond to stress who you're attracted to how much you like listening to music what things smell like to you how often you get sick

Isabelle Brownin your immune system all of that is regulated by your hormones and now we're just starting to study the idea that your personality changes what types of people you spend time with what your political beliefs are religious beliefs

Mickit's crazy and the same thing can be said about food I had a doctor that tried to prescribe me Accutane when I had acne when I was hitting puberty and

Mickuh he thankfully never prescribed it to me and I refused it because um what they found out later on is that it was causing young boys to develop breast

Mickwhich is definitely not something you want as a young man so um no screw big Pharma and uh they ruined my childhood we went I have a question for you also

Cassandramedications are bad too cuz have you heard about that whole like theory about how a lot of people or women specifically get off the pill and then they like don't like their partner anymore do you fear like that may happen oh no I don't fear that at all she said

Keyhe he's pretty masculine I was on birth control for many years and it caused me many horrible issues like my skin my atne everything and then I've still been with him so I didn't change it for me so

MickI'm not on birth control I would people are she she had cancer like symptoms on birth control that was literally making her hair fall out and her her skin was

Brian Atlashorrible she was literally dying from it that's did a TTS did a TTS come in that we talked over didn't didn't read Oh weird okay uh I'll I'll figure that out

Madison Vubut is your boyfriend watching the stream by the way um he was probably watching earlier but I don't know about right now okay do you want to say hi to your boyfriend in the camera hi Frankie I love you how you said you guys were

Brian Atlasdating for how long we've been dating for six and a half months very taken very taken very taken but you said you you go out and party right is he cool

Madison Vuwith that um no I go I only go out and party when I'm with him because I don't know like if I were to go out and party myself like in in a in a guy's mind like it's just like oh she's going to cheat

Madison Vuon me she's going to hook up with another guy I completely like I 100% respect my boyfriend so I do not go out without him okay oh based okay I want to Circle back to I think there was a

Vitaquestion asked like who is responsible for like promiscuity like who who started that like the chicken egg thing I don't even think it's necessarily men or necessarily women um I think it's due

Vitato the fact that birth control is extremely pushed and abortion is celebrated and pushed um and if we completely annihilated both of those things I mean we wouldd be way less we

Vitawe would be a way less of a promiscuous Society cuz women women would be getting pregnant we'd be more cautious as we were like decades and decades and centuries

Monicaago facts yeah I think another thing that we should talk about is how women don't know their cycle I think a lot of

Monicayoung women just think their cycle is just their their bleeding period And if you were to get to know your cycle you would know when you are ovulating and when you are fertile because you can

Monicaonly get pregnant one time out of the entire month and also you're um the most appealing to men when you're

Keyovulating whether they know it not true Noti biologically TM I have the best when I'm yeah so during during your

Isabelle Brownphase of ovulation this is the crazy cool part of how your body was designed just the science nerd in me loves this stuff literally you look more attractive physically you look more attractive to

Isabelle Brownthe opposite sex when you are ovulating I you get thinner you're less bloated you're glowing your skin looks really great your hair looks awesome like you genuinely are more beautiful while you are ovulating and you're able to conceive a child but when you take birth

Isabelle Browncontrol pills hormonal birth control pills that's an important caveat uh you keep your hormone levels that Peak that help you get to that point stagnant so instead of the Peaks and valleys of your estrogen and progesterone it stays flat

Isabelle Brownall month all the time so you're mid in your emotions and how you respond to stress and what you look like all month every month usually for decades on end and we're just now starting to research that to ask that

Madison Vuquestion birth control has affected me a lot as like a person like I feel like the biggest thing like people will always say like my personality changed

Madison Vuthe most I would say like out of everything like before I was on birth control I would say I was like a little

Madison Vumore like bubbly fun you know but when I hop on birth control like I went on it

Madison Vufor sex and my acne and like I don't know I was just so depressed like it it made me have more acne in a way like I was depressed like it kind of just like

Madison Vuput me through this like phase of life where I felt like I was like empty kind of yeah but I don't know I'm back to normal that's good and I'm still on

Keybirth control so is it the same birth control like is it the same it's a little bit different wait why would you go back on it after I never stopped She doesn't

Brian Atlasquit yeah I never stopped okay let's move it onto uh something else so you revealed your body count really quick just show of hands should should body count matter yeah yes should body count

Brian Atlasmatter no shouldn't matter yes should matter shouldn't matter shouldn't matter shouldn't matter

Brian Atlasum okay so you revealed your body count just uh who show of hands again who uh should body count

Keymatter kind of okay key what's your body count um like in the 20s what's your body count closer to the mic close close

Keyclose close I want to say like uh five or six you're lying babe come on that's not a lie you told me it was one when we met wait he's lying cuz he's embarrassed because he has been

Brian Atlaswith anybody but me except for like online he would like talk that's a good thing why do you have to lie about it why do you have to Li why Li about it I don't care after her or before her there's nobody after me right I mean as

Mickfar as I know wait so did you lose your she oh she doesn't consider like I consider um getting a blow job or kissing like hooking up with her but

Micktechnically she thinks it means like you know having insertion and stuff that's to her but I I did have other girls that I like kissed or got a bj from or whatever that you don't count in your

Mickbody count I count that as body count but but she doesn't I body count sex actual sex I guess there has to be I guess there has to be if there's like if

Mickit's just if it's just penetration then yeah it's like one or two okay for you uh it's okay yeah before her so you weren't like a virgin when you met her

Brian Atlasno I wasn't okay but so for you it's 20 for you it's five when I met him I was at seven and he was one number seven that I slept with when you met him you were seven he

Keywas seven I was at number seven body and now you're at what like in the 20s in the 20s it doesn't matter I consider us both engaged by the way yeah I consider

Keyus both ones to each other like no one else like I I wish we could have lost other matter it's just a two of us okay

Brian Atlasuh what's your what's your body count 20 body counts 20 okay eight but eight okay oh cool I I I sound like I'm judging I'm sorry go ahead I don't closer to the mic

MonicaI don't think I want to answer this one fair enough what about you um are we talking about like penetration or all

Brian Atlasjust yeah penetration I guess 10 okay throw in like handes in the back of a 7eleven I'd never done that oh

Monicaokay zero zero okay but I will say that with girls it'd be

Brian Atlas15 with oh including women okay cuz are you by I assume yeah Martin $100 leftenant laia better wrap up

Brian Atlaspretty soon Mick has a really early morning preparing ragged anals meal for work tomorrow yeah I'm going to try to get through some super chats we're a

Brian Atlaslittle behind so uh yeah um thank you though man um by the way all ABIA matter all ABIA matter in the chat boys I want to see it you know it's

Brian Atlasunfortunate that women get if a woman has a large La it's unfortunate that they get shamed if they do this is true but it goes for men too yeah women get or men get sh yeah you're right men get shamed

Kelseyif they have small pens or if they're noted or if they are you know yeah that's like one of the biggest like one of my girlfriends she was like I I will never touch an uncut thing and

Brian AtlasI was like I didn't even like tell the difference like it's really minimal yeah we're all just a bunch of superficial okay uh not not us just humans are you going to propose am I

Mickgoing to propose where did on your computer people were commenting they wanted you to propose to someone to who I I forget who they

Brian Atlassaid who has I mean speaking of large laas do anyone here rocking oh yeah you want people to say that is anybody anybody

Brian Atlasrocking a beef curtain or what do they call it oh my God who I how dare you no how dare you call it that but I've seen call it an Audi Audi oh an Audi Audi yeah yeah

Brian Atlasit's just I don't like these terms you know women get shamed there's like beef curtains wizard sleeve roast beef it's not it's not good wizard I don't know wizard sleeve part of

Brian Atlaslife large you got

Vitalarge question is so uncomfortable it's a terrible question yeah I would never my body count is zero

Vitawhat makes you think I would ever answer that for the memes for the memes no will you marry me how much money is in your bank account

Vitawhat the [ __ ] no I'm just kidding yeah sure do I get to wear it yeah you can put it on all right this is for the engagement that never happened that was supposed to

Brian Atlashappen yeah okay all right is it real it was like 7 Bucks on Amazon but it's it looks cool

Brian Atlasright put it on all right all right guys me and uh this would be a bad time for you for me to ask you to repeat your

Vitaname right my God Vita v t a Vita no like Vita like v v Coco like such a weird name Sor I saying

TTS Readerit how do you spell it VA viit bad news bles super CH $100 Isabelle I have loved every comment you have had would you be willing to

Isabelle Brownco-host with Brian please I have a stream every night I lost my booster seat you guys I'm too short for this it's F uh I have a stream night but

Brian Atlascertainly would talk to Brian about it I don't live here I live on the opposite Coast I live in the Free State of Florida God bless what was the question are you famous yeah she's I got so I saw

Isabelle Brownso she verified on IG she got blue check significant do you have a YouTube I do but I'm building my YouTube slowly so we're getting there I think it's tagged somewhere in the chat you guys

Brian Atlaskeep taging by the way guys is in terms of um you know being a dictator is the is the hand on the belt is that is that part of the act I don't know do I keep

Brian Atlasthe hand on the Belt I okay um what about the proposal what V Atlas do you have what's the Dowry looking like like

Brian Atlashow many goats are you bringing to the table what does that mean dowy the bride price wouldn't you be bringing her the goats no no it's the woman who who comes with the dowy so what kind of livestock

Vitaare we talking about I and also like how many tractors I need some I'm selling a old Porsche right now maybe all right we I'll have to talk to

Brian Atlasyour father about it okay um by the way do you guys remember there was a TTS that didn't came through but it didn't trigger it was it men are just grown boys did that one come through oh that was the one that wasn't SP like it was

TTS Readerthis one yeah oh whoa okay there's a little hi

TTS Readerslore doore cfb8 F e993 F32 donated $100 men are just grown boys boys can

TTS Readerlearn comrad or they can learn animosity men with animosity in their hearts will fego the sex brings confidence which brings more sex we are a society of adults who have retained our Middle

Brian AtlasSchool hierarchy hey Noah um I don't think I blocked you on streamlabs I I don't have anyone moderating really on streamlabs so I can't imagine why you're blocked it could be you're trying to send a word

Brian Atlasthat is inappropriate so it's automatically blocking it from going through uh otherwise feel free to just do it through super chat if it's not working and we had a Zen zenitsu I I already did it but uh here I'll give you a

Brian Atlaslittle yes you are a Chad thank you man appreciate it okay um let me get through a couple regular super chats we got it oh my God [ __ ] okay uh we have quite a lot so I we I apologize some of you guys I'm I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to read them all but we are going to power through them twitch.tv whatever guys go over to twitch.tv/ whatever oh my God look at all these cheers Asian Kyle NYC okay I think that's like a

Brian AtlasPenny thank you man um guys go to Twitch twitch.tv/ whatever go give us a follow if you have Amazon Prime you can link into your Twitch account quick free easy way every month to support the show drop us a prime sub if you have one yo thank

Brian Atlasyou guys all so much for following us yo Jana thank you for the uh follow appreciate it Asian Kyle thank you for all the bits um much appreciated oh yeah spam it thank you buddy that's nice um I can't see the the the primes that are

Brian Atlascoming through Asian Kyle NYC with the bits okay thank you guys for all that Amazon Prime go oh my God

Brian Atlasthe Mad bager thank you for the gifted sub man appreciate it okay um let's do some super chats so we have dusker $50 Super Chat uh can my voice is getting a

TTS Readerbit parched can I have you you have a pleasant speaking oh my wild be $100 good P tonight brick pinky actually

TTS Readerrefreshingly honest cool conservative girls you broke up an engagement you'll see and for those who haven't spoke much

Brian Atlastonight you bring me peace like geeki hey yo will the Beast beats thank you man and uh yeah actually major credit to uh to to you I know you

Brian Atlashonestly you got you got some you got scorched I know tonight but but uh I actually commend you for like being so forthcoming about everything that you spoke on when from the from the sex addiction to the uh U narcotics

Brian Atlasaddiction and uh I I think you were really like super honest and that's I'm stoked on that because a lot of people can have some hesitations about sharing some of that stuff so I commend you for your uh yeah and my family did warn me about it they said there's this is going

Vitato come with consequences you know and I said if I can help one human being recover that's my goal so the best thing is that you're not justifying it and that like you know it's wrong and you

Brian Atlasdon't condone it at all right by the way we would have children with beautiful aqualine noses okay that was cringe as [ __ ] all right we both we both have big noses all

Madison Vuright okay all right um here we had dusker here I'm going to have you read these if you can dusker if you're not in the content and other guys are she ain't the one bro

Keyevery company on the planet is hiring stop making excuses I think I am the one but I'm not actually doing adult film anymore I'm just doing the only fans I haven't

Brian Atlasactually filmed it video in like more than six months right I don't know yeah by the way guys um I I do want to apologize that we're getting to these super chats so late into the show just

Brian Atlaswe got a lot of TTS that came through and then we got a really high volume of super chats I bumped it up two shows ago and people weren't happy about it so I

Brian Atlasbumped it back down but maybe I think I just need to bump up the TTS maybe I don't know um I'm still figuring it out so I know a lot I'm probably going to get a couple complaints in the chat about the uh Super Chat and I'm not

Mickmaking excuses I I have a job I'm self-employed so I'm not complaining at the time I was really desperate for

Brian Atlasanything but not anymore okay uh we have uh here actually you can keep going go for kerm would a perm gaming bootleg

Madison VuLloyd Griffin out here taking everyone's Peters while bro is door dashing SMH this is madness bring back the bangs

Brian Atlasgirl yo kerm thank you man appreciate it h hold on that one came through oh oops Daniel Udo super chated

TTS Reader$100 a good reminder is our actions of con quences most people try to ignore it in the future eat yourselves this

TTS Readerquestion would you want your child to become what you are when they grow up a

Key304 no thank you man obviously I don't condone like not everyone should do the job I'm doing obviously I don't even want to do it but

Keyit's just money and what you got to do in today's world you know got to do what you got to job all right we have oh by the way for everyone who's asking about shania's

Brian Atlasfather from last stream oh I think my it expired on my Instagram it's in one of my highlights in my Instagram story there's a photo of him if you guys are curious um did he

Vitapass away yeah he did that person okay he did yeah um okay Michael Metro can you oh sorry Eric

Madison Vucan you close the door please go for it Michael Metro IV question for the ladies would you get rid of your IG for a marriageable man we'll go around the

Keytable on this really quick yes or no yes yes yes I would get rid of my phone and everything I would get rid of my

Isabelle Brownphone and everything for him if can you push the cup go ahead hell yeah yes yes yeah it's a little bit more complicated than just a account I think because that's my livelihood that's my job but

Madison Vuyeah I would I would get rid of it social media does not need to be a part of your relationship to be honest should we pull up your Instagram because you have a boyfriend I do have a

Brian Atlasboyfriend ER and I do have an Instagram Eric should we should we do a little a little check yeah we'll look we we'll do a look see so if your boyfriend has he has he asked you to delete your

Brian AtlasInstagram no do you get a lot of DMS from guys yes yeah I assume after this show you're probably going to get some too um he doesn't have an issue with it well he

Madison Vuknows that it's like inevitable he can't control that neither can I but I just we just ignore them like we just ignore them or block them if they're being weird what what if you were to private

Brian Atlasyour Instagram what if I were to private my Instagram I mean I suppose I mean if your boyfriend's not asking for it then and you do I I do you post your boyfriend I do post my boyfriend okay

Keywell that's better than some girls some girls dating dudes for two years and like they're nowhere to be found on Instagram so yeah okay I don't post we we don't have to pull it up I would post mine but he says it's not good for my

Brian Atlasmoney which is true because guys are simp true yep that is true if he asked me to post them I will and he's on my Facebook and everything else so I mean Instagram know whatever yeah sorry again sorry guys that we're getting to these

Madison Vuat the end of the show uh just we had a really high volume today so um go ahead oh Matthew John this is the exemplification of narcissism and

Madison Vumanipulation under the guys of money Mick you have to wake up as someone who was subject to the same emotional abuse it will erode your mind who's the bad

Keyguy here me or him who are you attacking right now Matthew are you which one of us is being attacked no he's saying that I'm being man manipulated and being manipulated I'm being manipulated if

Keyanything he's a man and don't merely make any money and I'm the one doing the job I don't want to do so I could at her from either way choose to not be with her if I didn't want to but I I choose to be with her standing next to each other there's

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