ØF Girls BOYFRIEND Joins Stream?! 130+ Body Count?! | Dating Talk #65

Date: 2023-03-22

Duration: 4h 51m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMadison (SBCC)>

KKelsey (DT65)>

CCassandra (DT65)>

MMonica (DT65)>

IIsabelle Brown >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Mick(guest)

SPEAKER_02Vita(guest)

SPEAKER_03Cassandra(guest)

SPEAKER_04Madison Vu(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kayn(guest)

SPEAKER_06Key(guest)

SPEAKER_07Eric(audience)

SPEAKER_08Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Monica(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kelsey(guest)

SPEAKER_14Isabelle Brown(guest)

Key Moments

IntroKelsey introduces herself as a recovering sex addict and recovering opiate addict, announces her new podcast "Chronicles of Craving."

“my name is Kelsey I'm 22 I go to LCC in Eugene Oregon and I am a waitress and I also just started a podcast Chronicles of Craving”

ControversyKelsey describes peak sex addiction behavior: bringing up to 6 men per night to her home, one after another. Brian asks detailed questions.

“I was like bringing over six dudes a night like it just was never enough”

Key MomentKelsey discloses body count of ~136, says she keeps notes.

“it's not like 300 or anything it's it's like 136 I think”

ControversyIsabelle challenges Key/Mick arrangement using biomedical science: oxytocin bonding means you cannot separate romance from physical intimacy.

“you can't separate the Romantic emotional part of engaging in the most intimate experience that you can with another human being”

OtherMick (Key's fiance) joins the show from the audience after chat reacts to the OF situation. Brian reveals Key is engaged.

“yes um I'm with her you're engaged to her yes we are engaged”

OtherKey announces on-air she is quitting the adult industry. Brian confirms. Key then immediately walks it back to keeping OnlyFans.

“she's quitting for real yes okay then from this point on what are we both going to do for money... the only fans money is too good okay then”

QuoteIsabelle cites Pew Research data: ~73% of Gen Z who are dating are unhappy; proposes cultural change from inside out rather than regulatory rollback.

“most of gen zers if you are in a relationship you are unhappy I think the figure from Pew was about 73%”

QuoteIsabelle gives extended defense of Andrew Tate: argues media attacks on him are an assault on masculinity, his message has transformed lives.

“the assault on masculinity that our culture has promoted... people who are going to encourage men to be who they were supposed to be”

OtherBrian performs the All Blacks Haka live on stream after a $1,000 donation from "Smith." Scuffed performance with YouTube video playing.

“okay all right I'm ready this so cringe bro”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & relationship statuses

All guests introduce themselves (name, age, occupation). Brian goes around table for relationship statuses. Kelsey (sex addiction/recovery), Mick & Key (engaged, OF situation), Madison (planning marriage at 18), Kayn (situationship), Isabelle (engaged), Monica (life partner 5 yrs), Vita (single, virgin).

Kelsey's sex addiction story

Extended discussion of Kelsey's opiate recovery, transition to sex addiction, peak behavior (up to 6 men per night, ~136 body count), move from Olympia WA, launch of podcast "Chronicles of Craving." Body count disclosed as ~136. Brian asks detailed follow-up questions about scheduling, apps, volume.

Mick & Key: OF relationship dynamic

Key's boyfriend/fiance Mick joins from the audience at ~0:26:08 after the show chat reacts. Extended discussion of how they got into the adult industry (financial hardship, $100 left), how Mick feels (accepted but not happy), Key's perspective (it's a job), guest panel weighs in. Key announces quitting the industry live on-air at ~1:06 then walks it back to just OF.

Jealousy & double standards in relationships

Discussion of jealousy in the context of Key's situation, and broader double standards around men and women in sexual contexts. Whether emotional vs. physical infidelity are different. Cassandra, Kayn, Madison contribute.

Feminism debate

Monica calls modern feminism a supremacist cult. Kelsey partially agrees, differentiates equity vs equality. Isabelle argues modern feminism conflates submission with inferiority. Cassandra has mixed views. Vita believes birth control and abortion normalize promiscuity.

Physical ratings round

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Kelsey: ~4, Key: 6-7, Kayn: 7 (sometimes 10), Cassandra: 6 (7 with makeup), Isabelle: 6 without / 7 with makeup, Brian: solid 8.3. Mick rates women: mostly agrees with self-ratings; calls Key his 10, rates Kelsey ~9, rates Brian 10 for a man.

Gen Z dating crisis & hookup culture

Extended panel discussion on Gen Z unhappiness in dating (Pew data cited by Isabelle: ~73% unhappy), hookup culture, whether it can be reversed, social media and dating apps as root causes. Brian argues the culture war is already lost. Isabelle argues for cultural change from inside out. Kelsey on normalization of average men.

Marriage incentives, divorce rates & family courts

Brian discusses divorce rate statistics (80% initiated by women), alimony flow (90-97% men to women), bias in family courts, disincentives for men to marry. Proposals to change marriage law. Isabelle on setting boundaries. Single mother household outcomes cited by Kelsey/Brian.

Body count, pair-bonding & CDC data

Discussion of Kelsey's 136 body count. Brian references CDC studies correlating higher body count with greater likelihood of infidelity, relationship dissatisfaction, STDs, and difficulty pair-bonding. Kelsey argues people can change. Brian uses cigarette lung analogy for lasting damage.

Abortion & pro-life debate

Near end of show, brief discussion of abortion. Vita: pro-life (birth control + abortion drive promiscuity). Isabelle: strongly pro-life (studied fetal development; 96% of biologists agree life begins at conception per Princeton study). Monica: calls herself pro-choice but says it is killing a being. Cassandra: cautiously pro-choice. Kayn: would not rule out dating pro-life man. Madison: pro-choice (SA exceptions).

Andrew Tate opinions

Panel goes around on Andrew Tate. Madison: likes his confidence and morals. Kelsey: respects him for walking the walk (multiple women), but has disagreements. Mick: knows some things, believes he is held illegally. Cassandra: common sense, doesn't like his character act. Monica: 70/30. Vita: agrees with Mick on legal issues. Isabelle: lengthy defense; argues media attacks on Tate are an assault on masculinity; his message has transformed lives.

Patrice O'Neal clip & discussion

Brian plays Patrice O'Neal clip about what a woman would do to keep her man if she lost her genitalia in a train accident. Panel responds. Isabelle refuses to engage with premise (biblical vows). Monica: would let him sleep with other women. Kayn: would do other things. Cassandra: agrees with Mick (Mick said he would never leave). Madison: everything she can, not let him go elsewhere.

Transcript

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Micksometimes I mean we're just that's why I want to be like a studio musician and uh have producer I'm like the behind the scenes guy like even when I used to play live on stages with the bands and we'd play rock and roll I was the guy in the

Mickbackground doing background vocals or background guitar I wasn't on in front of everyone Mick listen as your

Brian Atlasmanager I think you know you're a handsome guy you kind of look like a young Bert Reynolds kind of does he maybe I'll take it thank you

Brian Atlasyou know you got the good jawline M uh you know but I guess my confusion is you do only fans he accepts

Brian Atlasit allegedly apparently however you would have a major issue with him doing scenes with women hold on

TTS Reader$999 Mi saave yourself and find someone who brings the best out of as you would with that person I'm the best thing he's ever going to get because I'm the best

Mickso and we're soulmates what I I think um erroneous erroneous I I think uh she does uh bring the best out of me I think we both have our

Mickissues and and we both grown as people when we met each other we were a lot younger we're a lot more mature closer more mature and older now we certainly uh still have our issues just like in

Kelseyany relationship but we work those issues out we talk to each other and uh that's all you can ask for in life and I I'm here's like my thing with it cuz I used to strip right like my not the ex

Kelseythat I currently live with but another ex yeah you used to strip too okay yeah yeah so um but it was like an act of addiction kind of like I I was cleaning

Kelseyoff my drug of choice but like not clean clean so I was it was more like doing it to make money so that I could go get high but I mean you know whatever people aren't going to care but

Kelseyum sorry oh yeah a relationship is like a contract right like and it's also about compromise if you respect each other you're going to hear what each other has to say and you have to listen

Kelseyto each other and so when my X was telling me like he's uncomfortable with like the fact that I can go to this strip club and do this this but like he can't make an only fans or whatever we made a compromise and we actually made

Keyan only fans together and like started making content together so like it's all about compromise yeah I'd be okay with that if he wants to make anol fans I'm totally fine with it I just would want him to do content with me and the reason

KeyI don't want him touching anyone else but me is because I've already done that and have been making money and I don't even want to touch anyone else but him I just do it for money so yeah and that's something that you want her to quit

Keyeventually I want to quit today if I could but you know we just need the money how do you cope with that not quitting I sleep I just look at the end of light at the end of the tunnel and be like look there's people

Keydying in in all over the world someone always has it worse and that's not to say that my situation isn't valid but no one's perfect no one's life is perfect no one's relationship is perfect why don't you want Mick to start an only

Keyfans I never said he couldn't he can't you he hasn't started one you said you would have an issue if he was doing BG content with anyone but me because I'm already making all the money but that's what you do you do cont I don't even want to do it though that's yeah but you

Keydo content with other men but he can't do content with other women want to do it so huh but I don't even want to do it I don't want to him why can't he do it because making all the money cuz we I'm already making don't you want double money pressure from that that you have

Keyto make all the money in the relationship obviously a little bit cuz I want him to make money and pull his weight but I mean I guess I just never I don't know he just doesn't make as much you are refusing to let him do an only

Keyfans no he can make an only fans but with with other women well obviously yeah because I'm already making m b Reynolds but he's mine and I already I'm doing the point is he can't make an only fans with content with other people you

Keycan't keep a man that handsome I can and I will there's nothing you can do about it mine mine mine I don't care afterwards manager I got you ni he can have an only fans look he can totally

Keyhave an only fans but he can only make content by himself or with me look only fans you can have chef on there guitar people only fans just isn't adult content you know okay Mick I guess my question to

Brian Atlasyou is and I do want to keep continue moving because I want to give everybody an opportunity to share their relationship status um Mick don't you think it would be more ideal to not have a girlfriend that is

Mickdoing adult content with other men to be stripping to doing all this I would say it would be easier if she didn't have to do that but I'm not

Mickgoing to leave her for someone that isn't doing all that um because I loved her before it I love her after it it that's not an issue for me does she have

Isabelle Brownto right now I mean how financially secure are you guys we have Louis Vuitton bags we only have like1 15,000 doesn't have a Louis Vuitton bag so it's not a longterm sustainable strategy so

Keywhat are you doing to build a sustainable strategy to get out of it if he made money I'd quit doing what I'm doing if we both could find another job that wasn't in the adult entertainment I would do it like I always say to him

Micklook we can go work and I can it has to make it has to make more than what we are right now which I doubt most jobs would be paying as much as we're making right now however I will say this we do

Mickhave a plan we have a savings account we have about enough saved up we are planning on going to the smokies and by the end of the summer okay how about for income though like what are you doing to train for a Workforce position that not

Mickin the adult film industry or only fans or having a sugar daddy well I'm going to build out my recording studio and start I'm going to start once we have that house I'm going to start doing my

Mickown content uh not it's going to be YouTube related and things like that I'm going to be building the studio I'm going to be having people come in and charge them to use the recording studio

Mickuh for whatever they are I'm going to be doing session work in Nashville with other guitarists and things like that so that's going to bring in an income for me she can get a job at a at a at a coffee shop or whatever if she wants to

Mickshe can still do her off if she wants to she does a lot of live streaming and and things live streaming maybe one day I'll start my own podcast it's kind of fun you know talking to people and hold on I just have to interrupt a little bit guys

Brian Atlaswe we put members only mode on just for a couple minutes here uh the chat was uh getting a little we it was hard for the mods and for Eric to keep up so I put

Brian Atlasmembers only own MO slurring my words here I put members only mode on we'll leave it on for about 10 15 minutes and then we'll switch back um okay maybe we'll touch base on that again I do want

Brian Atlasto let the rest of the girls go so what's your current relationship status single situationship relationship I'm in a relationship okay how long has that um a little shy of a year now is that your longest

Monicarelationship no my longest is 5 years five five okay what about you I am with

Monicaa life partner um um for almost five years Super taken okay super taken okay um sorry I I would just say

Monicasomething I'm from New York so sometimes I'll say like New York SL so I don't know if that's like okay give like what's an example of what do you mean like oh you're Wilding right now I think

Monicathat's a slang everywhere I've heard that before well okay well others so okay got it explain the neck tap by the way um I got it at a women's retreat can you like pull your hair back so we

Brian Atlascan a woman's Retreat

Vitayeah okay what about you I'm single and my longest relationship was two two and a half years okay single like proper

Isabelle Brownsingle like 100% single sure what about you I am very happily engaged to my best friend engaged okay how long have you guys been together uh we started dating

Isabelle Brownin July of 2021 and he proposed in December and I know you're watching hi Brock yo what up Brock how you doing okay all right so that's everyone's

Brian Atlasrelationship Jesus what this is a this is a mess of a panel tonight um okay so hold on one sec I wanted to bring it back to

Brian Atlassorry guys yeah by the way I don't think some of the super chats are they're not triggering has has more

TTS Readerthan one come oh is that it w super CH 99.99 oh I know what happened there to the girl with red hair how can you say

TTS Readeryou love him and also say you are the best he can get love is not selfish it's selfless guy with the black T-shirt why don't you get any respect able you can

Keyget until you can fulfill your dreams so she can stop the of so to answer that um we're the best each other can get but we love each other like you have to be a little bit selfish not like you can

TTS Readerstill respect your partner and be a little bit selfish it's a balance you know like oh my God un truth donated $100 what a pile of bull you say he is yours and no one else can have him yet

TTS Readeryou are his and willing to give yourself away to male porn stars that care nothing about you garbage love you Brian everyone's going to paycheck at the end of the day and honestly I will quit but

Micklike babe do you want me to quit I'll quit today oh do you want her to quit I've been wanting to quit anyway is she is this a whatever exclusive she can quit when she's ready okay but what what you want yeah what are you going to do

Brian Atlasto make money I would like I would like her to quit yes well you would like her to quit do you want her to quit tonight on the whatever podcast yeah

Keyyou want to make it official okay we'll make it official she's quitting for real yes okay then from this point on what are we both going to do for money cuz we

Keyneed to have a plan you can still do only fans okay compromise compromise okay deal cool oh my and just so you guys know he has access to my phone

Keyanytime like I have nothing to hide so if you want to look at who I'm texting what pictures I'm liking tode you're quitting yeah wow right now yeah you're going to delete your only fans you're going to keep that

Brian Atlas[ __ ] around up to you babe what do you want what the only fans money is too good okay then wait before you guys quit though you got you got to let Mick do

Keyone scene with another chick no come on it's only fair it's only fair no no no way in hell never happening oh he he can't do a scene with a chick but you can I don't even want to touch these people though that's the

Brian Atlasthing neither does he but he needs the money I know but I already have so much money from what I did why do both of us need to do disregard her listen to me Mick I want you to say this say show me the money say it show me the money

Micklouder say with your chest show me the money louder you show me the money show me the money louder Mick the money louder Mick show me the money there we

Brian Atlasgo oh my God so cringe there we go Jerry McGuire by the way okay so the Super Chat the Miss Super Chat there can you pull it up read it I know what happened there oh wait we're I'm

Brian Atlasthere's another one that just came in uh actually hide it because I'm there's one that's about to come in so by the way thank you for all the memberships guys oh my God super CH

Brian Atlas9999 this is some double standard nonsense yeah here the asteroid men and women are different right so there should be double standards for some things but it's I mean you could the

Keythat argument be made more so in favor of if it was Mick who yes I I get that but this is what works for us and it's not permanent Mick just be honest do you want to start an only fans just say it it's up to you I'm not stopping you from

Keydoing anything you want to do well you don't want him to do it with other girls well obviously duh cuz I'm already making so much money from mine but you can double it this is Bert Reynolds in the flesh son yes but he would just be

Keytoo nervous to do it anyway instead of a two-bedroom three bedroom you're underselling your fiance not really I think he would kill it yeah but I just don't want him to and he doesn't want to

Brian Atlaseither what's that movie with Mark wallberg uh with the the from like the 70s or 80s Mark wal boogie kns boogie kns that's you dude it's a great movie

Brian Atlasjust look you need to look yourself deep in the eyes in the mirror and just be like oh what the [ __ ] does he say in that movie anyone in the chat can you let me know what he says in that movie

Vitait's but that's a prosthetic like don't worry about it you wanted to go in what or what were you gonna say I lost my train of thought I was going to say something you said there's nothing

Vitaromantic about the job that you have but if you're so against him having the same job will you admit that there is something romantic about your job no

Keywhat I just think it's both things both of us are together and we just want to touch each other it's romantic but I'm saying it's not romantic when I'm touching other people like I'm not enjoying it is what I mean and he

Keywouldn't enjoy it's not enjoyable at all no it's just awkward because we need money look why do people work at McDonald's is that enjoyable I was about to say I think most sex workers are are

Kelseythey don't it's a job right like they're not necessarily having a great time 100% of the time but the money is very very good like you make very good money doing it but it's it's like a job if you ask a sex worker do you like your job it

Kelseydepends on the sex worker some of them are like yeah I love getting railed by 15 guys other girls are like you know I just kind of do this for money so it just really depends if you're like willing to take that risk so what then

Isabelle Brownis the dollar amount that is the price of your peace and happiness like really is it that price on it but if there's no price then why not struggle financially to build a career path because people

Keysay you don't need money to be happy but you do you need money to eat you need money to pay your bills absolutely to eat million cost but at what cost what cost once it's over and done we have a place we're never going

Mickto look back and be like yep we did what we did I worked at a burger place for minimum wage and did that for 3 months and the way the management and customers treated me there and throwing food at me

Mickand things was one of the worst experiences in my life I was so stressful at that end of the 3 months I quit I was at that point I was pulling my hair out and losing sleep and so

Mickstressed that I said I would rather be homeless and starving than working at this burger place I will not name it but but wouldn't you be wouldn't you rather

Mickbe all those things and not have your girl getting screwed by a bunch of dudes if it brings in money then I'm

Mickokay with it it's it's it's it is what it is it just that's how our life has become and uh that's her her life I mean I didn't

Mickchoose it she didn't choose it but you know a lot of I've had dozens of odd jobs and 90% of them were awful I mean the way I was treated the you look

Mickstrong Mick you look like an ox I think you could handle pH labor I think you could handle like a good physical labor job I could I did forestry firefighting and that was actually really good and I had to I had to have a backpack on me

Mickand jump through those mountains with a chainsaw in my hand and I was in good shape back then you know got it here let's uh I got to get to these super chats uh Eric can you pull up the one that I missed or actually wait maybe I

Brian Atlascan do it hold on I got it I got it oh oh my bad here I got it uh by the way guys just a heads up um if you're donating donating in a different

Brian Atlascurrency if you're donating in a different currency you need to do the conversion for it to trigger TTS so it needs to be 100 USD so if it's like if you're donating Canadian or whatever other currency it needs for it to

Brian Atlastrigger TTS it needs to be a 100 USD so do the uh do the maths on that uh J oh [ __ ] Eric can you hide those scuffed

Brian Atlasuh J Ronald thank you for the Australian 150 man appreciate it this podcast is bloody fantastic made it always interesting and diverse guests with insights that surprise me for better

Brian Atlasrewards keep up the good gith gith the [ __ ] is that Brian you absolute Legend um thank you man appreciate it uh I don't know what time it is in Australia but uh thank you man really appreciate

Brian Atlasyour patronage and uh sorry I didn't come through as a TTS it's it's just it's through streamlabs so the conversion has to be done but uh if if it happens again I I'll always try to read it as oh promethus Venom super ched

TTS Reader$99.99 I work full-time and go to school I'm not doing only fans there's probably women in same shoes as me and do not have only fans as their source of

Brian Atlasincome yo Mick now that she's gone Bro Look the table's back we're going to back you right right girls I'm going to share all little secrets yeah look

Micklisten you need to start [ __ ] chicks on only fans that's what you got to do bro bro she's doing it you're doing it's only fair would she kill you would she like [ __ ] stab you that's actually our saying is it's only

Brian Atlasfair that's what we always say to each other it's not fair though I know did you see what she said when she's like oh no it's only fair no other girls can

Isabelle Brownhave uh BDM yeah only she gets BDM no not cool I just think you guys deserve better than it is what it is you know I

Mickknow but she doesn't the thing is is that I know she doesn't want to uh sleep with those other men and I don't want to I don't want to sleep with other women

MickI'm not going out trying to get with other women either so it for me it's like it's not like oh I got to go do this just to get be fair uh I don't have that

Brian Atlasfeeling I have a question for both of you oh Jesus

Micksorry I'm sorry chat okay good what's the hashtag free mick am saying that am I like in a toxic relationship where I our relationship so

Keyhorrible is it is it that bad we're happy you know I mean I'm happy are you happy which one of you wears the pants in the relationship well he drives I don't drive I just make some of most of

Mickthe money so I feel like we both wear the pants for certain things I cook I clean I dry I do most everything except for make as much as she does and I still do make

TTS Readermoney so I would say I'm probably the pants in the relationship okay oh my Kyle Henderson super thank

TTS Reader00 Mick could have joined the carpenters union or sewn other trade thoughtful face I I did forestry firefighting I

Mickwent to trade school to do that and that was my profession uh for 6 months and it was very good and I wouldn't mind doing

Mickit again um if I was hired anybody anybody knows anybody in the uh forestry industry that wants to reach

Keyout let me know you want to save us then you have to hire us at something that's going to make almost as much as what we're doing now how much are you making right now so how much do you think we're making I don't know how much from all

Mickyour hustles and whatnot how much you think I would would say closer to the mic guys I would say five or sixk a month um but at what cost but at what

Mickcost at what cost I don't know I I myself probably make a grand or two a month maybe 3K on a good month from all

Mickof the instruments and stuff I sell I sell lots of pedals lately too because they take up less space and people love pedals

Monicanowadays I have a question for kiwi would you ever consider taking care of kids or something um or like being a nanny cuz that that can pay a lot too there's a very high demand in being an

TTS ReaderI'm not I don't know if I'm very good with kids I've never changed diaper $100 your roles are swapped Mick she provides controls and she's territorial

TTS Readerover you I thought maybe you were just lazy and Pudgy and you are that but you're also softer than a roll of Sharman Ultra your story is painful but

Brian AtlasI mean if you're happy you're not the man what does it make you feel like most men I would say most guys would probably not be cool with the arrangement that

Mickyou guys have yes I I would say that I've I've been uh heckled and uh given a hard time by some of my closest friends

Mickfor uh years now and uh a lot of them don't think I should be uh with her but um I'm I'm okay with it and it doesn't bother me I

Mickjust it it just doesn't I'm sorry if it bothers you if it would bother you I thought it did bother you though I said there's some level of that discomfort and and that yes I don't want this

Mickbut it at the end of the day I compromise and sacrifice I guess for you say okay it's it's fine I can handle it key why don't you just join the military

KeyI'm not cut out for it I'm very into fashion I have anxiety I I don't want to get blown up and die okay I'm not I'm not into that what's the point of the military would not happen now okay I'm just being dramatic but you know I don't

Keywant to be in the military I'm not cut out for I respect hey if you do that then more power to you thank you for serving our country but I just I'm not cut out for it just like his friend he had a friend he was in the military

Mickright and he wasn't cut out for it and he had PTSD just from yeah just for six months in the military and he had a back issues in PTSD but I know other guys that were in it and did four years and

Brian Atlasare great and doing fine it it all depends who it is all right I'm going to do a couple chats uh this one came in at the top of the show Liberty uh I'm not able to re-trigger it for some reason

Brian Atlasbut thank you for the $125 uh donation through streamlabs by the way guys just a reminder if you're just tuning in uh instead of donating through YouTube doing a Super Chat YouTube takes 30% whereas if you donate through streamlabs

Brian Atlasthe link for that is in the description it's they only take like 3% so if you donate 100 YouTube takes $30 if you donate through streamlabs they only take three so uh definitely I recommend uh if you guys would rather more of your

Brian Atlaspatronage to actually go towards whatever instead of just throwing it towards YouTube think about that Liberty thank you for doing it through streamlabs question for the panel I am a husband and father of two raising a daughter in what to me is a continually

Brian Atlasfailing world how could I be a better father by shaping her into a more whole woman for a worthy man to spend her life with Eric can you close that it's just too noisy with the rain can I answer

Kelseythat question sure um don't worry about how much money he's making that that's it well that's my

Kelseybiggest piece of advice if you're going to tell your daughter that I mean it's like I don't know my whole issue I could go into it but my whole issue with this

Kelseylike high value men thing is that a it's completely subjective people who designate themselves as high value men are not high value men to me because I have a

Kelseydifferent set of morals and standards and values right so and if it's because they're making a lot of money I don't date men who are rich so that's just like my main issue with

Cassandrait I would say just be present in your daughter's life and spend time with her and just be honest she has questions just tell her like it is you know some of the ugly truths are out there but they're really important to know and

Keywhen you have that coming from your father it makes the greatest difference homeschool by the way homeschooling not I think that's what we're going when we have kids one day too right babe you want is that what you want to do as

Mickhomeschool public schools are indoctrination factors I I definitely want to homeschool our children because uh I do not agree with the way uh Public

MickSchool Systems also my childhood was the worst time of my life as an adult I I would say I'm much happier [Music]

Brian Atlasthan okay we we have a veteran Carpenter here thank you for the 50 how worthless do you feel that your girl has to sell her body to feed you if I pulled every man in America I bet you are one of one

Brian Atlasof one I mean don't don't underestimate oh [ __ ] I missed it hold on uh got uh sorry I'm trying to re-trigger it

Mickuh you should be ashamed of yourself go find a job and stop being a bee your response to veteran Carpenter well I would say that I know quite a few

Mickother people that are in a very similar situation and most of the people the girls that she's met in the industry have boyfriends if it whether it be at the strip club or on a film set she does

Mickknow I mean it's more than you think if you're jerking off to a porn star she likely has a husband or a boyfriend at

Kelseyhome it just is and kids likely too so also there's been like ex male porn stars on this show I think I watched an episode um a couple episodes back where

Kelseyhe had like three girlfriends or something like that so like it's okay for a man to do porn it's okay for a man to do all this stuff and the woman has to sit at home and be submissive but when a woman's doing it she doesn't gain

Kelseythe same respect and I kind of understand where it's coming from right because biologically I understand what you're saying that like women aren't naturally designed to have casual sex

Kelseylike I kind of agree with you there but it doesn't people don't really see it as that anymore I think we've evolved to like it's about mutual respect like for example if there's a dual income

Kelseyhousehold why do I owe you submission if we're making the same amount of money why do I owe you submission if we're splitting chores like that doesn't make any sense who says it's okay for men to be porn

Keystars like I I don't know I mean I just that's like the general opinion that I thought like the red pill Community kind of happen I mean it's true people not not as hard on like oh when you're a when you're a kid in high school and you're a guy for

Keyexample you sleep around with a bunch of girls everyone's like go bro but if a girl sleeps around oh she's a [ __ ] it's bad so I get what you're saying yeah but at the same time it's like I listen I'm

Kelseya sexact so I agree I think I think sex addiction can definitely be a byproduct of this like hookup culture and Casual Sex absolutely like it was for me it was

Kelseysex addiction for me was probably the only thing I got addicted to where nobody could say [ __ ] to me because I would hide behind feminism and I'd be like it's women empowerment y'all like go like let's you know and nobody said I

Kelseymean people still called me a horror obviously there was consequences for it but generally like nobody really felt like they could call me out on it aw so I see both sides but at the same time

Monicait's like I don't know do you think feminism today is a problem is toxic yes I don't think why it's literally like a

Monicasupremist group it is it's a cult is just crazy absolutely it's rooted in Brokenness B hello all right somebody disagrees here right I mean

TTS Readerwell I don't agree wait you agree I agree I think people take super ched 169 new zealand 199 than guy on right rate

TTS Readerevery girl 1 to 10 10 means you'd hit if you can one means you would never so I assume that's Nick is he he wanting me to raate all the women he wants you to

Brian Atlasmaybe before we have you do that we'll we'll have you do that by the way thank for the uh New Zealand 169 man thank you uh Stiffler ask the ladies to rate their

Brian Atlaslooks on the scale of 1 to 10 then Mick we will have you uh do the ratings let's start

Brian Atlaswith I don't know okay we'll just start over here one we're rating ourselves 1 through 10 wait or start with I don't know who to start

Kelseyyeah okay sure your looks on the scale of 1 to 10 a 10 I genuinely don't know like I I genuinely have no

Brian Atlasidea well if you just had to throw the number out there four I guess I don't know okay yeah it's like a

Keyseven seven okay key K dog he can't rate himself it's as the ladies okay well I would say seven but sometimes 10 because

KeyI feel like I don't know it's you seven but sometimes 10 yeah I think like six but like a seven on a good day okay yeah I read myself a

Isabelle Brownsix cuz I have crooked tees I'd say six without makeup seven with makeup a solid 8.3 because there's

Brian Atlasalways room to be better okay solid 8.3 okay um so 10 4 S yeah okay um Mick they want he wants you to rate all the girls

Mickso let's just try to run through it quick okay well first off I think all of you are are lovely and I don't want to do this so just so you know but he's wanting it and I'm I'm forced my hands

Mickare tied I would say all of you were pretty accurate on on what you you gave yourself or what I would rate you I would say I would say you could give yourself at at least a six or seven you

Mickdon't need to be like not knowing you know yeah like I would say you know a nine or a 10 you know uh a six or seven

Mickum obviously you're my 10 of course I would say like a a nine I would say uh a nine um I would say you know like eight

Mickand a half yeah eight and A2 like you said I would say about that what about ran what's he I think he's he's a 10 when it comes to men especially because oh wait so the girls are less than Brian

Mickno no because here's the thing he's successful he has a he has a good beard and he dresses nice and he carries himself well and as a man that's

Isabelle Brownimportant it's true all right okay so I'm actually fascinated by the fact though that everybody at this table thinks that feminism is a scam yeah let's go back to feminis it really is

Kelseyyeah I I I agree with some things right like as as far as I don't believe in equality between men and women I believe in equity right there's a difference so

Kelseylike there's place for women in the workplace right but it's just in different areas can you explain the difference to us what you think the difference between equality and Equity is yeah so equality is like the same treatment given to like both sexes right

Kelseyso that doesn't make any sense because are men and women the same obviously not so Equity is giving the same opportunities to equate to each person's ability I think you might have them

Isabelle Brownswitched generally speaking Equity is the end result is always the same so typically countries that Implement economic equity for example will bring the ceiling down to make sure

Isabelle Browneverybody's at the same ending point whereas equality is giving everyone the same opportunity and what you do with it you can run with okay regardless of who you are well I yeah um but yeah like

KelseyGeneral Equity equality like somewhere in there like I think I think feminism as far as that's concerned like that makes sense in certain C circumstances right so like if if women are getting

Kelseypaid less in the caregiving industry because it's a caregiving is a predominantly woman field right and I hate this um no morph is super chated

TTS Reader$69 new zealand 99 honestly rate your girl we lost Brian for this so late let's keep talking okay I was going

Kelseyto say you were in a good thought yeah she she's a 10 um we all are in our own way where where do you have an issue with modern feminism then oh I mean definitely

TTS Readerhookup culture I think feminism like hot take but I think feminism definitely civian super chatted $100 Mick is the perfect example of a

TTS ReaderManchild this failure is entirely on him Big Dreams no direction his pattern of not making money the entire relationship will not change change and only continue

Brian Atlasif she keeps enabling him he's taken the easy path I do make money though we're on feminism now people also

Brian Atlasreally quick um I did see while I was away from my chair that uh one of the ttss tri sort of triggered but didn't

TTS Readerget red let me see if it had to say it doned $100 mck just Google jobs in SB you can apply get a forestry fire job starting

TTS Readerat 42k you need to get off your underly jobs are out there also Isabelle you are absolutely gorgeous thank you it's very

Brian Atlaskind sorry that it didn't uh trigger the first time it came through I'm not sure what happened there but hey uh had to say it thank you for the uh $100 donation man really appreciate it thank

Kelseyyou okay hookup culture go yeah so hookup culture for sure it makes men like want to un AE of themselves it makes women really like self-conscious

Kelseyit's it's a horrible thing you know like um my ex has like really really bad mental health problems and I think I said something on my podcast like don't ever date a man under 25 it was really

Kelseystupid and generalizing but don't ever date a man under 25 all he's looking for is sex like he's going to screw you over and he's like you have to understand that when you make these generalizations about men and how men do this and men do

Kelseythat like it makes me want to un alive myself and the male suicide rate is freaking skyrocketing it is so sad I even want to make another episode about like men's mental health and I know most

Kelseyof this chat thinks I'm a hoe and like they don't want like they don't agree with me or whatever but yes regardless I care about you guys and I want you here

Kelseyand Alive you know so um I just think that males un alive rates are like not talked about enough as well women too and what's really crazy is the CDC just put out a study of weeks ago we can

Isabelle Brownargue about the CDC later in the chat just for warning for that uh but teenage girls right now more than ever before are starting to struggle more than teenage boys in modern America particularly with mental health so

Isabelle Brownteenage girls are starting to see higher levels of anxiety higher levels of depression and in 2021 one in three teenage girls seriously considered taking deleting dele unal living themselves uh because of the culture

Isabelle Brownthat we've created right now which is so ironic right like wouldn't you think that this culture that's all about women doing whatever they want and women having any Pathway to success that they want to embrace we say that we live in

Isabelle Brownthis world and at the same time the next generation of women gen Z women are so unbelievably miserable and unhappy and discontent in today's society that they don't even want to be here right and I

Kelseywill say to I'll say this and then I'll be quiet because I know I talk a lot but um I like in active addiction I try to unal myself five times and that wasn't

Kelseyeven substance abuse that was because I was convinced that no man was ever going to take me seriously or love me because all they wanted for me was sex seriously and I still some part of me still convinced of that cuz thought it was

Kelseygoing to work out with this guy it happened or not but I'm holding out hope and I'm waiting you know what I mean but it's it's a real thing so yeah well so you said that you think men might not

Kelseywant to take you seriously because CU of how many people I've slept with yeah okay you guys say that a lot on the show and so I was like oh I guess that's what guys don't want well I mean that's kind of where I was going with it cuz you you

Brian Atlassaid that your concern was men only wanting you for sex however I would say that's probably not oh than

TTS Reader$100 Mick you're a manlet chasing your silly dreams meanwhile she's got DeMarcus making a human skin sock out of her inets meet me at my boxing gym I'll

TTS Readerget you on the right track in under five rounds after that raggedy anel will do exactly as you demand why do you keep calling me raggedy an you're just a hater oh

Mickwhatever I think it's cute I like I was raggedy and I mean I I wouldn't I wouldn't mind going to your gym and and uh sprawling a

Micklittle bit I started recently uh uh taking boxing lessons and everything so if you want to fight let's fight oh oh my Oh wait we're going to we're going to

Brian Atlaslive stream it marquavius Martin versus Mick BD Mick yeah that's long as long as we have you know a referee you know that's it's a pay-per-view in the works

Brian Atlasokay wait so you want to fight someone babe why what happens well he's that's that's what men do we fight each other we fight each other Yo No morphis thank you for the 90 New Zealand R renga by

Brian Atlasthe way if somebody donates I'm trying to think how much in New Zealand dollars I will do the Haka if it's impressive I'll do the haka

Keyfor 333 New Zealand dolls okay all right [ __ ] cash crab over here okay um oh can I say one last thing I feel like there's such a pressure to be perfect and I feel like everyone should view

Keythemselves as a 10 because life is short why do you have to be miserable everyone deserves to be happy so that's why erroneous called myself erroneous it's all about confidence confidence will get

Keyyou anywhere in life anywhere but the reason I didn't call myself the reason I didn't say I was a tenent is because people will roast you in the chat if you call yourself a 10 no matter how good-looking you are so yeah but I don't care you know what you're right we're

Keyall freaking tens up in here all of us are tens and we all deserve to be happy we're all beautiful exactly stop it get some help wait so you said confidence

Madison Vucan get you anywhere absolutely or what was it ex exactly that you said confidence like confidence

Madison Vuin general just like I don't know if you're confident about going into a job interview you're going to get it if you're confident about being pretty you're

Brian Atlaspretty well I mean the when it comes to your physical attractiveness there is an out outside component of

Brian Atlasthat so how people view you you know you could for example like you said just be confident well I would love to you know get paid tens of millions of dollars to

Madison Vugo play in the NBA I don't no matter how confident I am that's just not going to I would say I'm talking more personality confidence wise than uh physical

Brian Atlasappearance wait I'm confused you said that confidence get can get you anywhere yeah can it though what like what if someone without

Madison Vulegs wants to you know that's why I was saying not physically like personality wise like in in your brain if you're confident about something like if you're confident about

Madison Vugetting a good grade on a test most likely you it's kind of like or you could just study that might be yeah exactly like after you study if you're confident about getting a good grade on a test you're going to most likely get a

Brian Atlasgood grade on that test what if you don't study yet you still have confidence do you think you'll still get a not having any conf confidence at all well I'm not sure if it would have

Brian Atlasif it would have any impact on your actual test score if your confidence I I don't suspect let's say you take two people that one is a wreck and the other is

Brian Atlasconfident I can't imagine it would have much of an impact on your test score if neither of them have studied the material yeah that's no we're all T Gator screw you I'm hot and you're not and you're just a hater and we're all

Keyhot F you h got yeah he's hating he's literally hating on all of us for no reason my question up here and you're not so I think everybody's beautiful but like it is a little different when you

Cassandrahold on everybody's physically beautiful can we okay wait let me finish my thought though I think everybody is beautiful in their own way but then when we're all together there is a difference it's because it's like competition in a

Kelseyway that's what I'm saying the world is a competition it's toxic very like why do we care why do we even rate ourselves at all who cares we know that there's listen I understand if I was an exceptionally attractive human being I

Kelseywould be getting modeling contracts with Vogue I'm not stupid I don't think I'm ugly you know what I mean but like I don't think I'm exceptionally attractive but like why does it matter I think

Keyhuman's uh like judgment is there for a reason yeah but and that's Jud people on their character not how they can't control how they 100% but again judgment

Cassandrais a human characteristic and we do it all the time we should TR not judge people on the way they look look if someone like I'm just saying though it's a natural instinct and we all do it it

Madison Vuhonestly makes you who you are like I would say for you guys as a couple I bet you guys get judged 247 they suck it so I'm better than them yeah exactly when I

Mickmet her I definitely found her to be attractive but I still was looking for how do we connect as human beings and do we like each other's uh you know the way

Mickwe're reacting and when we have long conversation late at night do we get any meaning out of that I think men still want that connection with women there are certainly men out there that just want a a hot girl and that's it yeah but

Keythe physical attractive attractiveness had to come first well of course but it's everything else that keeps the people together look at Amber herd and Johnny Deb she's goodlook but she's a horrible

Cassandraperson so wait what I'm so confused how we're talking about appearance right so just saying that like judgment is there for a reason and it's you can't keep somebody with beautiful look you have to have everything else to your not

Cassandraeverybody is beautiful if we're talking not everybody's a 10 well 100% but I do think that it's important for everyone to like love themselves in some way right cuz if you're like staring at yourself in the mirror and you're like

Keychecking yourself out before you go into the sea of a 100 Attractive people right you have to love yourself at some point and be like yeah I'm kind of cute you know like yeah what's the point of living if you're like oh I hate myself I'm not a 10 like no screw that love

Kelseyyourself be a 10 to yourself look in the mirror oh my God the show is not about you let let other people it's about everybody I like when Britney you know you guys know Britney rener right like

Kelseythe the infamous you know she's like incel nightmare but she they like hate Britney rener for some reason but she said something that I really loved and she said everybody is special to

Kelseysomebody you know what I mean like we're all beautiful to somebody it doesn't so therefore we're all beautiful or you could have a pessimistic attitude at it and say nobody's beautiful and nobody's

TTS Readerspecial it's like a it's like a philosophical Scag donated $100 thank you Scott shout out to the whatever podcast for everything a bit off course but question to Isabelle having a

TTS Readersuccessful career do you believe to let your man lead the household be submissive to him would you forgive him if he was to cheat wow those are three very distinctly different questions so I

Isabelle Brownwill try to answer them as best as I can yes I do have a successful career I plan on continuing that successful career after we get married and as a parent I grew up with two parents who worked in the home and my mom actually traveled

Isabelle Brownfor her job the vast majority of my childhood like 5 days a week for seven years so I was very used to both parents taking on an active role in that capacity but I am extremely

Isabelle Brownold-fashioned and that I do believe that my husband will be the leader of our family in many different capacities largely spiritually and leading Us in faith which I believe to be the foundation of a marriage of building a

Isabelle Brownfamily uh and of a relationship that lasts which is incredibly rare these these days and is something I feel incredibly lucky to be starting out in the journey for uh second question would

Isabelle BrownI ever forgive him if he were to cheat forgiveness and the health of that relationship are two different things perhaps I would forgive him I don't think he ever would I have been cheated on by many significant others before I

Isabelle Brownmet my fiance uh and ultimately that always led to the demise of the relationship and it just couldn't survive beyond that I am a huge monogamist at heart I want undying commitment from the person that I am dating and that I'm going to spend the

Isabelle Brownrest of my life with I give that to them and I expect that in return and I think our society's playing with that boundary is ultimately leading to a complete breakdown of healthy relationships it's

Isabelle Brownwhy you're seeing the vast majority of genen Z unhappy in their relationships it's why we have the lowest marriage rate since America began recording marriage rates in 1860s in the 1860s and we have the highest divorce rate as well so we're

Isabelle Brownunhappy when we're dating we're not getting married if we do get married we end up getting divorced uh and as a result P research has found that our generation is just taking ourselves off the market entirely we decided it's not even worth it so I think that's a huge

Brian Atlascomponent are you talking about that recently released uh data from Pew I mean there's there's a whole bunch of data points but the big one that I took from it was I think it was

Brian Atlascomparing men and women between the ages of 18 to 29 and they found that women between the ages of 18 to 29 were twice as likely to be in relationships than

Isabelle Brownmen in that same but interesting study so the first one that I referenced the majority of gen zers if you are in a relationship you are unhappy I think the figure from Pew if I'm remembering correctly and obviously I don't have it

Isabelle Brownright in front of me was about 73% of us who are dating are unhappy really unhappy in our relationships those of us who aren't dating are intentionally not putting ourselves on The Dating market for either casual or committed relationships but the study that you're

Isabelle Brownreferencing was fascinating that came out a few weeks ago uh that women our age are more likely to be in relationships than men which makes you think who is everybody dating at the end of the day if the women aren't dating

Brian Atlasthe men then how did that statistic end up coming to fruition what crosses my mind is I think there's perhaps two explanations one women in that age group are dating older men 30 to 40 but I

Brian Atlasthink the bigger thing is is that women are maybe think they're in relationships or are in a relationship and they're sharing higher quality guys so and there's this concept called hyper women

Brian Atlasare all chasing after the top tier of men so a lot of women are happier sharing a top tier guy than settling for a guy that's actually on their

Kelseylevel so oh so go ahead I was going to say I agree with you I like I think I made like a Tik talk the other day that was like get yourself an average man ladies or something like that because

Kelseylike the majority of your audience I would say is average males right we're like Chads well but it's very it's like what less than 5% of men are making like

Kelsey100 Grand a year in America or something like that like it's it's really low so most people are average yeah yeah just average like so I think we need to normalize the fact that like if you get

Kelseyin a relationship he doesn't have to be making the same or more money than you right because that's true equality and like Equity or what however you want to

Kelseyphrase it it's about what you give to the relationship and so whether that's means that you're a stay-at-home mom and he's out there working full-time or vice versa it's about like everybody doing

Brian Atlastheir part whether you're man or woman whatever role you want to play so yeah but here's the problem is that you basically what you have going on in the dating Marketplace is average women don't want average guys they and I'm I'm

Isabelle Brownencouraging them to that's what my podcast is about call me crazy why wouldn't average women just decide to stop being average ourselves and raise the standards for what we expect from the men that we're dating say sorry

Isabelle Brownexplain that one more time rather than settling for an average guy why wouldn't we just demand more from the men that we dating because it's very hard for a certain some people to take men men respond extremely well to

Isabelle Brownboundaries they do psychologically if you set a boundary for a man either intentionally or unintentionally he will honor that boundary for example if you let him continue getting away with cheating on you and being half in half out of a relationship being a

Isabelle Brownsituationship for months upon months upon months without ever committing to you or wanting to put a label on things that's a boundary that you've set saying it's acceptable for me to be treated that way why wouldn't we as

Isabelle Brownwomen actual feminism I suppose to be theoretical about this demand more from the men that were spending our lives with I I agree and I think like here's

Kelseywhere the problem lies right men end up leaving because they because if they that girl that's demanding respect and demanding boundaries now she becomes high maintenance to them this is again

KelseyI'm not even I'm speaking anecdotally but I've heard this from men before now she's becomes high maintenance so they're leaving and they're going to find somebody that just says yes all the time so what if we all did it I hear all

Isabelle Brownthe time all men want are sex all men want is sex all men want is sexual partners what if we as women just said you know we're not okay with that anymore we want more wouldn't that Force

Isabelle Brownmen to rise to that occasion and similarly men who might be listening to this you should be going after women who expect those boundaries because a rising tide lifts All Ships and that's going to

Brian Atlasimprove the genie the genie is out of the bottle I mean I think we can say in an Ideal World wouldn't it be fantastic if we did away with hookup culture and I I think that is desirable but I I don't think you know the I think the culture

Brian AtlasWar has honestly been lost to decadence and degeneracy so like so there's no no hope

Brian AtlasI mean lost I think the culture War has been lost because you have you have Academia you have journalism you have the mainstream media which is all basically very and without really going

Brian Atlasso much into politics it's very left leaning um you know every single University in the country has a feminist studies a gender studies a women's studies program I mean there well now this is getting into men's rights

Brian Atlasthere's no equivalent men's studies or men's rights things in in education uh the we're two blocks away from UCSB University of California Santa Barbara

Brian Atlasit's the frequently ranked the number one party school in the US major hookup culture here um and AC I would say across most universities and colleges there is a major hookup culture and then

Brian Atlasbeyond College there's a major hookup culture uh where it's just casual sex situationships all this stuff I don't think I really think it's going to be a challenge to walk that back I I don't

Isabelle Brownsee how so how about instead of walking it back we as a generation and as a society acknowledge we are at the end of our rope that we've never struggled more as a society from a cultural perspective

Isabelle Brownthan we are right now despite living in arguably the most Progressive and advanced Society ever we're miserable so much so that a third of us as women in our teenage years and a significantly

Brian Atlashigher portion of men in their young adult years say we don't even want to be here at all so maybe rather than walking back we choose A New Path forward well but so and and you consider yourself pretty conservative right yeah

Brian Atlasso Secrets out I'm extremely conservative yeah I mean one thing that occurred to me is I mean social media and dating

Brian Atlasapps I think that these are majorly at the Forefront of hookup culture all this stuff uh so government

Isabelle Brownintervention like how how do you unwind the damage that social media and dating apps has done well that's the problem you can't unwind in my opinion and this is the really hard reality of

Isabelle Brownwhere we go from here I work a lot with Generations older than us and I cannot tell you how often every day I hear gen Z is beyond all hope gen Z is destroying America your generation will be the end

Isabelle Brownof us uh when in reality somebody else built this world that we have grown up in and have really struggled to come into adulthood and and now has been dropped in our laps and we have no idea what to do with it moving forward technology is a quint essential

Isabelle Brownexperience of what our day-to-day life is like what reality is like it involves our school our jobs Our dating relationships our our sex is happening online let's just be totally honest we've had a really long conversation about that on this podcast I don't know

Isabelle Brownthat you can walk it back I think we as a society would have to come to a cultural conversation point and change minds and culture From the Inside Out rather than regulatory measures to do

Isabelle Brownthat by saying this is not working we need to do more I I sound crazy that I'm like one of the the only people in my own life that has never downloaded a dating app nor have I ever wanted to

Isabelle BrownI've never had a desire to I don't seek out opportunities to watch adult content I don't surround myself with opportunities to do that because I've set a different standard for my life and encourage the other people in my life to do that as well imagine if we all banded

Isabelle Browntogether regardless of politics where everybody is seeking to divide us on this issue and start today by saying this is not working Generation Z is falling apart at the seams and clearly Our dating life is a great place to

Isabelle Brownstart needs more help than almost any other aspect of our culture what can we do differently returning to Traditional Values but in a new way that would take us to a stronger future I I don't think

Brian Atlasit can be undone honestly I think it's just going to be the status quo I I mean I just you you have the the basically the destruction of the nuclear family that's gone you have feminism it's not

Brian Atlasgone yet people are attempting to it's not it's not gone but I mean I isn't it the majority of people are being raised in single mother households people say it's accept the majority of Americans

Kelseysay it's acceptable for people well that in the study of single mother single mother households I mean you're like 75% or something like that more likely to drop out of high school like you know more percentage like to go or get

Kelseyarrested like all that kind of stuff like single mother households are like not good for kids they're just not I I understand there's circumstances where some men leave and there's nothing you

Kelseycan do about it but that's the thing like I that's why I'm divided on that issue because if if we make this general statement like you know keep the nuclear

Isabelle Brownfamily together but if he leaves it's how is it her fault you know and then you could say like well she picked a bad guy but right well there are ideal and unideal circumstances for sure but I I guess just more generally not pigeon

Isabelle Brownhoing ourselves in the single parent household conversation I'm curious what all of you would say do you think that our generation is Happy do you think that we're thriving do you think that

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