ØF Girls BOYFRIEND Joins Stream?! 130+ Body Count?! | Dating Talk #65

Date: 2023-03-22

Duration: 4h 51m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMadison (SBCC)>

KKelsey (DT65)>

CCassandra (DT65)>

MMonica (DT65)>

IIsabelle Brown >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Mick(guest)

SPEAKER_02Vita(guest)

SPEAKER_03Cassandra(guest)

SPEAKER_04Madison Vu(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kayn(guest)

SPEAKER_06Key(guest)

SPEAKER_07Eric(audience)

SPEAKER_08Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Monica(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kelsey(guest)

SPEAKER_14Isabelle Brown(guest)

Key Moments

IntroKelsey introduces herself as a recovering sex addict and recovering opiate addict, announces her new podcast "Chronicles of Craving."

“my name is Kelsey I'm 22 I go to LCC in Eugene Oregon and I am a waitress and I also just started a podcast Chronicles of Craving”

ControversyKelsey describes peak sex addiction behavior: bringing up to 6 men per night to her home, one after another. Brian asks detailed questions.

“I was like bringing over six dudes a night like it just was never enough”

Key MomentKelsey discloses body count of ~136, says she keeps notes.

“it's not like 300 or anything it's it's like 136 I think”

ControversyIsabelle challenges Key/Mick arrangement using biomedical science: oxytocin bonding means you cannot separate romance from physical intimacy.

“you can't separate the Romantic emotional part of engaging in the most intimate experience that you can with another human being”

OtherMick (Key's fiance) joins the show from the audience after chat reacts to the OF situation. Brian reveals Key is engaged.

“yes um I'm with her you're engaged to her yes we are engaged”

OtherKey announces on-air she is quitting the adult industry. Brian confirms. Key then immediately walks it back to keeping OnlyFans.

“she's quitting for real yes okay then from this point on what are we both going to do for money... the only fans money is too good okay then”

QuoteIsabelle cites Pew Research data: ~73% of Gen Z who are dating are unhappy; proposes cultural change from inside out rather than regulatory rollback.

“most of gen zers if you are in a relationship you are unhappy I think the figure from Pew was about 73%”

QuoteIsabelle gives extended defense of Andrew Tate: argues media attacks on him are an assault on masculinity, his message has transformed lives.

“the assault on masculinity that our culture has promoted... people who are going to encourage men to be who they were supposed to be”

OtherBrian performs the All Blacks Haka live on stream after a $1,000 donation from "Smith." Scuffed performance with YouTube video playing.

“okay all right I'm ready this so cringe bro”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & relationship statuses

All guests introduce themselves (name, age, occupation). Brian goes around table for relationship statuses. Kelsey (sex addiction/recovery), Mick & Key (engaged, OF situation), Madison (planning marriage at 18), Kayn (situationship), Isabelle (engaged), Monica (life partner 5 yrs), Vita (single, virgin).

Kelsey's sex addiction story

Extended discussion of Kelsey's opiate recovery, transition to sex addiction, peak behavior (up to 6 men per night, ~136 body count), move from Olympia WA, launch of podcast "Chronicles of Craving." Body count disclosed as ~136. Brian asks detailed follow-up questions about scheduling, apps, volume.

Mick & Key: OF relationship dynamic

Key's boyfriend/fiance Mick joins from the audience at ~0:26:08 after the show chat reacts. Extended discussion of how they got into the adult industry (financial hardship, $100 left), how Mick feels (accepted but not happy), Key's perspective (it's a job), guest panel weighs in. Key announces quitting the industry live on-air at ~1:06 then walks it back to just OF.

Jealousy & double standards in relationships

Discussion of jealousy in the context of Key's situation, and broader double standards around men and women in sexual contexts. Whether emotional vs. physical infidelity are different. Cassandra, Kayn, Madison contribute.

Feminism debate

Monica calls modern feminism a supremacist cult. Kelsey partially agrees, differentiates equity vs equality. Isabelle argues modern feminism conflates submission with inferiority. Cassandra has mixed views. Vita believes birth control and abortion normalize promiscuity.

Physical ratings round

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Kelsey: ~4, Key: 6-7, Kayn: 7 (sometimes 10), Cassandra: 6 (7 with makeup), Isabelle: 6 without / 7 with makeup, Brian: solid 8.3. Mick rates women: mostly agrees with self-ratings; calls Key his 10, rates Kelsey ~9, rates Brian 10 for a man.

Gen Z dating crisis & hookup culture

Extended panel discussion on Gen Z unhappiness in dating (Pew data cited by Isabelle: ~73% unhappy), hookup culture, whether it can be reversed, social media and dating apps as root causes. Brian argues the culture war is already lost. Isabelle argues for cultural change from inside out. Kelsey on normalization of average men.

Marriage incentives, divorce rates & family courts

Brian discusses divorce rate statistics (80% initiated by women), alimony flow (90-97% men to women), bias in family courts, disincentives for men to marry. Proposals to change marriage law. Isabelle on setting boundaries. Single mother household outcomes cited by Kelsey/Brian.

Body count, pair-bonding & CDC data

Discussion of Kelsey's 136 body count. Brian references CDC studies correlating higher body count with greater likelihood of infidelity, relationship dissatisfaction, STDs, and difficulty pair-bonding. Kelsey argues people can change. Brian uses cigarette lung analogy for lasting damage.

Abortion & pro-life debate

Near end of show, brief discussion of abortion. Vita: pro-life (birth control + abortion drive promiscuity). Isabelle: strongly pro-life (studied fetal development; 96% of biologists agree life begins at conception per Princeton study). Monica: calls herself pro-choice but says it is killing a being. Cassandra: cautiously pro-choice. Kayn: would not rule out dating pro-life man. Madison: pro-choice (SA exceptions).

Andrew Tate opinions

Panel goes around on Andrew Tate. Madison: likes his confidence and morals. Kelsey: respects him for walking the walk (multiple women), but has disagreements. Mick: knows some things, believes he is held illegally. Cassandra: common sense, doesn't like his character act. Monica: 70/30. Vita: agrees with Mick on legal issues. Isabelle: lengthy defense; argues media attacks on Tate are an assault on masculinity; his message has transformed lives.

Patrice O'Neal clip & discussion

Brian plays Patrice O'Neal clip about what a woman would do to keep her man if she lost her genitalia in a train accident. Panel responds. Isabelle refuses to engage with premise (biblical vows). Monica: would let him sleep with other women. Kayn: would do other things. Cassandra: agrees with Mick (Mick said he would never leave). Madison: everything she can, not let him go elsewhere.

Transcript

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Madison Vuage occupation go ahead my name is Madison Vu I am 18 years old and I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College currently studying

Kelseyaccounting okay my name is Kelsey I'm 22 I go to LCC in Eugene Oregon and I am a waitress and I also just started a podcast what's the name of the podcast

Brian Atlasuh Chronicles of craving it's kind of about addiction any kind of addiction sex addiction I'm recovered sex addict are are you you're yes we're covering sex

Kaynokay we'll talk about that in a bit what about you my name is kayn I am 23 years old I live in Santa Barbara and I'm a sales and operations manager for

Mickcorporate events cool my name is Mick I'm 27 years old I live in Santa Barbara and I'm an instrument dealer you deal instruments yes okay

MickI've I don't know if I've ever heard that I like you know like uh on reverb Facebook Marketplace I meet people I buy stuff I fix up like guitars amplifiers and then I resell them for a little bit more and

Keymake a little on the side sure what about you I'm key I'm 25 and I'm an adult Entertainer stripper

CassandraSL um sugar daddy procure all that yeah all the good stuff okay what about you my name is Cassandra I'm 25 years old and I work in

MonicaHospitality my name is Monica I'm 24 and I'm a nanny I'm Vita I'm 22 and I sell employee benefits

Isabelle Brownhi I'm Isabelle I am 25 years old and I wear a ton of different hats for my job but generally speaking I'm a live streamer an author political commentator and just overall content creator every

Brian Atlasday okay cool rock and roll we have a full packed house tonight so uh we got a good stream ahead of you all so we're going to go around the table on

Brian Atlasthis what is your current relationship status so are you single friends with benefits are you in the talking stage situationship relationship engaged married Etc and what is your longest

Madison Vurelationship that you've ever had go ahead I'm currently very taken uh very taken I'm going to marry the man that I'm with right now really and you're

Madison Vuyou're 18 really I am 18 but when you know you know let's go when you know you know how long have you guys been dating uh we've only been dating at almost 7 months so 6 and a half months but my

Brian Atlaslongest relationship was probably 10 months okay so and you said this is you know this is your guy I know did you say that about your previous 10-month

Brian Atlasrelationship no I did not okay how old is he my current boyfriend he's 21 he's 21 okay you guys met in school college met on the beach in Santa Barbara you

Brian Atlasmet on the beach I lovea Beach right here wow that's a movie waiting to be made okay um that's cool though cool congrats are have are you guys engaged

Madison Vuor just planning on it can you know what we should have him on and then he he proposes to you on this on the show oh he would love to do that that would be cool I'd be more than willing to have my

Brian Atlasmarriage proposal in this Loft this beautiful set yeah that I'm sure that'd be some wonderful memories absolutely while we're talking about the nuances

Kelseyand frustrations of monor dating okay uh what about you uh I am recently single um I like so recent I still live with my

Kelseyex-boyfriend and um oh sorry uh how newly single probably like

Kelseylike three weeks I think yeah okay why why did he dump you I dumped him why yeah um I so we were friends for like

Kelseyfrom the time I was 18 and I'm 22 so like four and a half 5 or something like that and I just didn't see him as a

Kelseyboyfriend like I I think the reason why we were friends for so long was because there wasn't any chemistry there so I just figured it wasn't fair to him and yeah okay uh and remind me how long had

Kelseyyou guys been dating because you said you were friends right he yeah he was my longest relationship actually so like 10 months or something like that 10 months okay um have you had a rebound since the

Kelseybreakup no any other guys since the breakup anything no I can't I mean that that would be a relapse for me so I can't okay so yeah you mentioned earlier that you are a sex addict yeah SE

Kelseyrecovering sex recovering is there like a you know how there's AA or na so I go to SLA um which stands for sex and love

Kelseyaddict annonymous um typically it's more women friendly uh I just obviously like going to mixed saaa meeting is like going to like an AA meeting in a bar I

Brian Atlashave tried it and guess what I relaps so yeah but you relapsed with someone who attended the sex addicts meeting who was

Brian Atlasalso sex addict is that pretty frequent occurring occurrence I don't even know why they have mixed meetings it's like what why even interesting yeah yeah that

Brian Atlasthat' almost be like doing a like an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting in a bar yeah yeah it's just like yeah if you mix the I can see that yeah well then

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Kelseywhat's it SLA what what's the one you go to SLA and it's an all women's oh sorry SLA and it's an all women's like Zoom meeting okay so you're so you're a sex

Kelseyaddict mhm okay so what what does that mean um it can look like a lot of different things for a lot of different people I'm I'm also a recovered drug

Kelseyaddict but sex was kind of like my um switch away from opiates so I once I got clean off of opiates it just kind of transformed itself I mean it's always

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Brian Atlaswoot hey you you sound like a a gamer dude a freaking pumper a gamer hold on I got I got something for you there you go man hey thank you so

Brian Atlasmuch for the uh for that Super Chat man appreciate it um and you know what if maybe we'll talk about Gamers later on let me let me write that down we'll uh

Brian Atlaswe'll ask the girls about Gamers later on in the show uh thank you man okay so wow they really want to interrupt you on your your sex addiction story um so you said you were also addicted to opiates

Kelseycorrect yeah what uh which ones or heroin and Fentanyl yeah I don't know if you can say that on sorry I forgot if yeah whatever it is it is that's fine

Kelseyit's whatever it happens um Okay so uh how long have you been clean on those I've been clean on those since I was

Kelseylike 18 and a half okay um after like my last OD and it really scared me so wow okay yeah um and is it pretty common for people who have sex addiction to also

Kelseyhave other kinds of addictions yeah uh my my mom's an alcoholic so obviously it's genetic but she she kind of knows has always known that I've had an addictive personality so yeah so how did your sex add addiction manifest um it

Kelseylooked like a lot of different things I think it started with uh can I say porn porn oh let's say uh adult content okay adult content yeah it started with adult

Kelseycontent when I was like 9 10 years old or something like that yeah so and I just I kept getting addicted to it and I like could not stop watching it um and then eventually it got to a point where like I was 19 and I got kicked out of my

Kelseyhouse because I was like bringing over six dudes a night like it just was never enough enough was never enough so yeah what

Brian Atlaswait six dudes a night for like a consecutive week yeah yeah so 6 time 30 wait somewhere around there yeah on 6

Brian Atlaswell six time seven she said wait six time well I'm thinking a week day a week Monday through Friday weekends were my rally days what do you mean oh yeah days okay my my math needs some some work

Brian Atlashere oh Eric you're gonna have to hide that I know my [ __ ] stream dicks scuffed um okay

Kelseyso six dudes a night like at the same time or like no no after the other yeah one after the other yeah and how are you meeting these guys um usually dating apps I have like a hard time approaching

Kelseymen I usually just wait until they approach me or I used to like to drink a lot too so I would go to the bar drink and and hook up with guys yeah okay so

Brian Atlasyou would sleep with six six six guys a night mhm um so like would you slot them in like 700 p.m 8:00 p.m 9:00 p.m 10 p.m yeah yep okay and then I would even oh

Kelseysorry no go ahead I say I would even like have like my backup guys to where it was like if this guy didn't come tonight then I have then I would invite this guy and then if he did come if the

Kelseyfirst guy guy did come then I'd tell the other guy oh I'm busy like I can't you know make it or whatever so that like did you have a spreadsheet like an Excel kind of yeah I mean I had to write

Brian Atlaseventually like I had to write people's names down because it got like so insane yeah okay so uh what's the most amount of men you've hooked up with in a 24-hour

Kelseyperiod um probably like a little closer to oh sorry probably I think six is like the most six is the most yeah but was that

Kelseypretty regular to have six that wasn't the regular oh that was just okay yeah that was when I was like I I was like really depressed and when I'm depressed like I am going out like were you uh

Brian Atlasusing production no no no okay um and you were meeting you said most almost all of these guys from Tinder or dating house Tinder Bumble I got kicked I got Perma

Brian Atlasbanned off Tinder they will not have me back okay maybe for the best yeah yeah now it is obviously but yeah okay so

Brian Atlasum do you I usually save this question for a little later on in the show but do you have a sense of how many men you've slept with yeah it's not it's honest

Kelseyit's not like 300 or anything it's it's like 136 I think 136 okay yeah yeah yeah um which is a lot but sure yeah okay um so did you uh

Brian AtlasI have like a million questions just like it's a crazy thing people are like what yeah okay and um would you say that uh what What's the most in like a week

Kelseybecause you said six in a day in 24 hours about like a week yeah on average it would probably be like like if I wasn't like deep into it like two to three times a week but I was also like

Kelseyacting out like I would like like flash my neighbors and stuff and like if I was just like I don't know yeah okay flashing the neighbors I feel like this could help people so I I get like weird

Brian Atlastalking about it but I feel like if I talk about it the people yeah sure sure yeah um so okay uh did uh how much per week though or sorry how what was the most in a week probably like two to

Kelseythree well no but you said there was six in the night yeah but on average it was like two to three per week two to two to three new guys hooking up week but like

Brian Atlasfor a consecutive like one two months it was like but is there one week where there was just like you went on a tear and it was like 20 dudes yeah what how

Kelseydo you know how much in the most in one week like 30 20 20 30 not 20 to 30 it's

Brian Atlasprobably like like 8 to 10 oh okay 8 to 10 so that one the six in the night that was just you went hard you went hard I

Brian Atlaswent okay sure and then um what about in the month what's the most in a month most men you've hooked up with in a month probably

Brian Atlaslike I don't know like maybe like like 20 yeah 20 okay got it and so you said you were meeting most

Brian Atlasof these men from dating apps um what what was your procedure like would would you kind of me like make the move cuz cuz

Kelseytypically women don't need to make the move but I mean to put up six to do six in the night you're going to have to put in some initiative yeah yeah I would and I like on average I was getting rejected probably more than the average woman

Kelseybecause I was like putting myself out there sure but it it's like being a woman it's very easily accessible and they just looking to have sex so it was like I didn't really have to reach out

Brian Atlasmost of the time okay so during your Peak would you say that if you were so inclined you could almost any given night you could guarantee get a guy yeah like if you

Brian Atlaswant if you really wanted to you could you could have sex with a new guy uh yeah especially if I went to the bar if you went to the bar yeah for sure okay and you're in a you're was this all in

Kelseyyou said you're from Oregon it was in Olympia so I moved because Washington yeah you moved because why cuz like I was like hooking up with like everybody in the area and then eventually like I

Kelseyliterally like was out of control and then eventually my like my best friend I think she's watching right now but I was it like I knew it was out of control when like I accidentally like I didn't

Kelseyknow about it but I hooked up with one of the guys she was talking to and she um she like told me about it and I felt horrible like I and then it really like that was like my bottom and it really

Kelseyhit me that it was like this behavior is like out of control for me and I need help so I went to rehab in um Los Angeles okay did the guys know the guys that you were hooking up with did they know that you

Unknownwere hooking up with a bunch of other dudes or was it mostly one night stands um some guys did so I used to I don't know if I should say the restaurant that I worked at I used to work at a sports

Kelseybar in Olympia and um I literally was such a hoe like I literally would like like sleep around with any new that guy that walked in the door so like I made a

Kelseyreputation of myself there of like where it was like dude she's like crazy yeah but most of the time no they or they didn't care you

Brian Atlasknow okay uh I'll I I might return to that a little bit later I want to let let everyone have a chance to uh but thank you for sharing I mean I I appreciate your forthcoming this with

Brian Atlasall this and uh yeah so we we'll return to all that um so I don't know if you recall the initial question but what's your what's your relationship status single talking stage situationship

Brian Atlasrelationship uh and your longest relationship I think I'm in a situationship you think you're on the in a situationship I think so you you think

Brian Atlasthat is you that's just another step not only are you in a situationship you think you're in a situationship okay uh why don't you tell us a little bit about

Kaynthat um so we've been dating for like maybe two months now um but he's like a little bit confusing and doesn't really know what he wants but still wants to continue it but didn't want a

Kaynsituationship which not very clear but and then we did break up at one point and then we got back together the same day um wow so I I think I'm in a

Brian Atlassituationship okay yo Eric my pen is dead can you look in the uh where it's under the island I think there's some

Kaynother pens in there sorry boys okay so two Monon situationship yeah what what and what's your longest relationship you've ever been in um probably another situationship and it

Brian Atlaswas like 10 months under under the island Eric like this one like this one okay um so two Monon situation wait Sor I'm

Kaynsorry I was trying to get the can you repeat the last part um my longest was probably like 10 months relationship or situationship situationship I've never been in an actual like functioning relationship you've never called someone

Kaynyour boyfriend no okay did have you ever had a guy who you called your boyfriend but he didn't call you his girlfriend um not really I feel like we're all kind of on the same page if anything it was

Kaynprobably that guy that was like the 10-month little stint um I feel like I thought we were like kind of closed to getting there but he was absolutely not there and then we broke up but it's for the better okay so you're you're hooking

Brian Atlasup with your situationship currently yes okay um because well I I'm asking you

Brian Atlasbecause the way I invited you on the show is I I did the reverse finesse procured you from a dating app hinge very true um so I assume then that your

Kaynsituationship is you're not monogamous um yes and no I feel like if I ever did actually see someone I would definitely

Kayntell him um I think I was getting really bored of this whole like back and forth like are we something are we not something like all that and I was like I'm not going to just sit here and wait

TTS Readerfor you to decide so so have you brought up the conversation about do you want more from him um we've talked about it hold on M Martin super CH $100 yo Mar

TTS Readerthank you I know the restaurant pink sweater worked at it's a donut shop called blown out holes facts confirm or deny confirm or deny how did you know

Brian Atlasthank you Mar quavius uh all right um have you brought up the this up with your situationship we've talked about it a lot he just like

Kayndoesn't really know what he wants um he's in nursing school right now so I kind of want to give him time to like develop his own things too um how often do you guys hang out it's like at least

Brian Atlasonce a week once a week for about two months yeah so would you say maybe you guys have only hung out like 10 times yeah maybe 10ish times okay okay

Kaynum so is he seeing other girls I don't know I don't think so but we've never really talked about it okay well cuz you're you're on the dating apps although have you while you've been

Kaynseeing this guy have there been other guys no it's just been honestly it kind of sucks because then I'm like okay well now I'm like people are still talking to me but it's like oh I still really like

Brian Atlashim so it's almost like more you want more yeah but he doesn't apparently not or un unsure well I'd say move it along

Brian Atlasbut uh uh okay so okay so situ two month situationship um and you said prior to that you you

Brian Atlashaven't had an official relationship but there was a guy you were sort of seeing for 10 months yeah okay got it and then prior to those have you kind of been are

Brian Atlasyou desirous of something more serious or are you kind of like yeah it's cool I'm down with the more situation it's fine just I'm asking if it's you're fine with the situationship or uh casual more

Kayncasual stuff I definitely think I'm looking for like a little bit more um I'm a person that I will give like everything to someone and it's hard when you're in a situationship or like just hooking up because it's obviously not

Kaynreciprocated so I think I am looking for it I'm trying not to like force it um but how do you when you say you give everything what do you mean like I feel

Kaynlike I'd like oh I'd love to like cook for you or like hang out with you or um like if I'm free like we'll go like grab coffee together and it doesn't it's definitely not like I don't want to

Kaynsuffocate you like I have my own things to do too but um like I just feel like I'm a very giving person just in general it's kind of like and are you currently doing those things for your

Kaynsituationship the cooking not like specifically for him but if I like made cookies I'd be like oh do you want to like come pick one up like I didn't make it specific for him

Brian Atlasbut got it okay so you two y

Mickyes um I'm with her you're engaged to her yes we are engaged closer to the mic

Mickand uh we we do love each other and no I'm not a cuck I do not enjoy uh watching her be with other men or any of

Mickthat uh we were had $100 in our bank account when she started to do the work and get a little closer to the mic if you can if you need you can hold it in your yeah it's a little little tough

Mickright here um no I uh I I don't have low testosterone I've actually had my testosterone tested So and I've read all the hate comments I watched when you

Mickwere all when everybody was going live I did see all the hate comments I did see what people are saying and um I respect people's decisions most of the hate comments were from other men not women

Mickum and if you don't want to be with a girl that uh has an only fans or has done porn or adult work then don't don't be with that girl uh we were together

Mickfor quite a bit of time before she did all that work and uh and I will be with her even after because I love her she's

Brian Atlasbeautiful and we're together and and that's that so why we give it there might be new people tuning in why we give it a bit of cont ke you've been on

Brian Atlasthe past two shows can you push that cup into the table please um so that cup right there so you guys are engaged

Brian Atlasfiance uh you guys have been dating for what four years five five five years okay so Midway through your relationship you start doing only fans correct yeah

Brian Atlasand then stripping MH and then procuring sugar daddies and uh doing es escorting or no no

Keyescorting no just like stripping at the clubing on only F adult content with other men that just to clarify for only fans if they have an only fans and

Keythey're into that but okay and then you also have like 10 sugar daddies yeah I have guys that will just text me and just spoil me and send me a 100 bucks or whatever just okay take me to get like

MickLouis Vuitton bags or whatever so sure okay so and but you're okay with it I I am okay with it yes I

Mickum uh you know I I don't watch any of her porn I don't I don't uh help her with a lot of the stuff it's just something that I'm very passive I don't want to know about it you know if I had

Mickto be very involved in it I probably would be a little disturbed because this is the woman that I do love and and and care for so yes there is that aspect of it but I don't get like I don't think

Mickabout it I don't let it uh keep me up at night it's just just you know let her do what she does and and make the money and and come back because as long as she's not romantically involved with someone

Mickelse I I don't view it as cheating it's it's the romance involved and eventually she does plan on retiring from it it's something we've had to do for quite a few years now uh to make money but now

Mickwe have goals in mind we are going to get a cabin up in the smokies and we're going to have our own businesses and things that make profit so she doesn't have to do any of this stuff anymore

Mickit's just it's just for profit and uh and if some guys don't want to uh you know allow their woman to do that for profit and I understand that I totally

Mickunderstand it but uh for me it just when you're uh living in your car in one of the most expensive cities in America and you have a hundred bucks in your bank account and she says you know look we're going to go hungry if we don't do something and you're like I don't know

Mickwhat we're going to do and I've been trying to look for work and I've been applying at hundreds of jobs and I can't get a job and we need money and she says hey if I just go to the club and and dance for a night I'll make a a couple

Mickhundred bucks and you say okay sure go make a couple hundred bucks because at first I didn't want her to do it I really didn't both I I was really nervous let's go into that what would so

Mickyou said at first you didn't want her to do it yeah tell us what your initial Instinct was initial Instinct was like I'm really nervous I I've never been to a strip club you know I hadn't been I I

Mickdidn't really watch a lot of porn and and and I didn't uh understand the sex industry I didn't know that there's good people in it that you can be safe in a strip club that they always felt like

Mickthis unknown territory so I'm like I don't know if I want to go to the the valley and you know some part of sketchy part of town and let you dance for the night you know I don't know who's going to be there or how it's going to be but

Mickeventually you know you just say look we're desperate for money let's give it a try and we gave it a try and it's not as bad as people think it is generally speaking it's not as bad but so was there a gradual increase in terms of

TTS Readerwhat was being done because so first it was the strip club hold on just a sec chisel donated $100 95% tax on sex Work Platforms to

TTS Readersave America anything that supports exhibitionism all dating apps of Etc Instagram snap as long as they permit hookups don't allow people to to profit

Brian Atlasfrom degeneracy you can win 2024 running on this platform yo shizzel thank you for the big Super Chat man appreciate it oh my

TTS ReaderGod the chat is on fire $100 thank you Frankie you had $100 in your account because you're selling freaking instruments you're a man it's your job

TTS Readerto have a job instead your woman sells her body to keep you afloat how can you say you don't want her to do it it but live your life in a way that she has

Mickto uh well I will respond so at that time I was not selling instruments I got into selling instruments in 2020 which is because of lockdowns and

Mickuh 2020 was the best year for musical instrument sales in history so I actually made quite a bit of money thousands of dollars every month and was doing just fine when lots of other

Mickpeople weren't making any money so I didn't need her for money to do that I can door Dash to on the side I don't need her money I we make more money now for things that I definitely wouldn't be

Mickable to afford I do plan on having my own recording studio up in those mountains and that is very expensive and thankfully she is helping fund that so what was our money we both spend it on stuff we want like I want my nails done

KeyI want my hair done I want to go get some clothes you know he needs um a new guitar you know like we have things that we want and that we need but we both like work you know we M just really

Brian Atlasquick to go back to my initial question before the uh TTS came in so you were kind of describing what your first initial Instinct was and you initially were like no no no

Brian AtlasI'm not comfortable with this but we both had an sorry so you started just stripping right and then it then only fans I would say it was then it was then

Brian Atlasporn yeah and then it was only fans and then it was only fans she started okay all right so I mean my I guess my two questions are you previously said that

Mickyou consider you to be monogamous yeah do you agree with that assessment yes because she's not romantically involved with the other men I understand the implication that it is sleeping with

Mickother men on camera and stuff but that's it's more acting uh so you know other people would say that's cheating I don't because it's not romance involved well it may not necess it may not NE

Keynecessarily be cheating but I don't think you can classify what you guys have as monogamy because totally fine we all have our own opinions but we're just doing it for money and so we can get a

Keyplace because you know like we used to work in grocery stores and fast food and we were miserable and broke 400 bucks a week or something and could barely eat and like we both have an understanding like one day we were just like really

Keybroke and had 100 bucks like he said and I was like well what if I work at this club I know you and I think it's weird are you okay with it I asked him permission before I did any of this on

TTS Readernashu Abu donated $100 this is my one simp post for key get a prup before you get married just in case don't put yourself in a losing position if things go south you may risk

Mickhalf if your boy ain't feeling it anymore oh okay that's why you're wor I do agree with I do agree with prenups I think everybody should get a prenup if especially if you have a lot of money that that's totally fine she's the bread

Mickwinner though even so I have I have things that I I don't want to give her and and she has things that she probably wouldn't want to give me so a prenut makes sense let

Brian Atlasme ask you a question if if she were to sleep with another man not within the context of creating adult content would you have an issue with that yes yeah of course because that's actually cheating

Brian Atlasbut no but let's say she doesn't it's just a one night stand she just wanted the [ __ ] there's no romantic component there's no emotional component she just wants to get a rocks off whatever would you have an issue with that she might not but would you have an issue with

Mickthat I I would have an issue with that yes because that that's not for the camera that's not for making money that's that's cheating can I ask out of genuine curiosity you said telling your story early on that you kind of

Isabelle Brownwillfully remain ignorant about this that you don't want to know what's going on behind the scenes you don't watch the content you don't subscribe to the only fans do you think that's intentional like there's a part of you that knows

Micksomething is not quite right about that I I do think so yeah I think there's a part of me that is kind of a little disturbed by it I'm not going to lie do you think that's because really biologically speaking I mean I studied

Isabelle Brownbiomedical Sciences you can't separate the Romantic emotional part of engaging in the most intimate experience that you can with another human being from solely the act of getting a paycheck or making money well that's the same thing cuz no

Keyactor even actors don't want to watch their other actor if they're married kiss another person on camera so it's normal to not want to see your other partner touching someone else kissing someone else engaging in sexual acts

Keywith somebody else so is that hard then to see that escalate from I can always quit I mean we're both have an understanding that we're doing it for money and I asked him from the day one like hey can I work at the club I won't

Keydo it if you don't want me to but we need money and we both came to an understanding like sure you can try it out work at the club one night and it was a topless bar at the time so it wasn't even like a full strip club and they were like okay well I'll do it for

Keya night and if I don't like it I never have to do it again and I was like are you sure you consent to this babe are you sure and and he was like yeah and I'm like okay I do too and so and every changed really substantially since then of course yeah but I mean well the strip

Keyclub's closed during covid and so someone reached out to me online on Instagram asking if I wanted to do adult film and at first I was like no way that's just crazy but the Clubs closed

Keyand I just said are you can we do this babe are you sure and like I always ask him if he's okay with it and he always always says yes and to this day if he wants me to quit right now and go back to a regular job I would I mean it would

Micksuck not having the money and being able to pay the bills but I would do she definitely has wanted to quit many times too where she she really she definitely does not like it it's just literally

Keymakes it hard to make money now if McDonald's paid a livable wage and I can make thousands month I would do it but it's just not the reality definitely the type when we did have that $100 in our bank account and we're and she did this

Mickwe did have jobs at the time they just were we literally like getting paid like 400 bucks a week and then after food gas

MickInsurance uh you know any other bills we we only had 100 bucks and even that 100 bucks uh was not going to last us uh the week so um it was just tough I had to

Mickask friends for money stay on people's couches U my car had you know engine issues needed to get repaired it it's tough and and we and a lot of people have gone through this and some people

Mickfind other alternatives to get out of it and then others they this is what you had to do to get out of it go ahead I just have a question because I mean I've kind of been in similar situations like

Cassandraliving in cars and going through hardships as well did you guys ever try to get like food stamps or anything cuz that help significantly yeah we applied for that I would find that the money was guys just both of you I need you

Mickspeaking closer to I would definitely say that the money was not nearly enough from what you would get for food stamps I would say it would run out after like a week or two and then the other thing

Mickis the uh money that California tends to provide is like I think it was like 300 a week or some or 300 or something a month I mean this state costs thousands

Cassandraof dollars to live comfortably I would say 100% but uh just as someone who's been on food stamps before that would mean that both of you guys are able to get it so then that's doubled at that

Keytime yeah and we had that in this one of us had a job because one of us had to get a job should both of us just quit and be on food stamps even so we would have the same amount of money or if not less because if I'm making 400 bucks a

Keyweek at the grocery store and he's on food stamps that's more than both of us on food stamps with no job do you guys have a date for your wedding is that out of curiosity no uh it hasn't been top

Mickpriority because buying a home and getting out of the car and having uh um nicer a nicer life just nicer clothes I don't want to have the wedding and people to show up and then you know I

Keywant to have a house first I don't want them to think oh like we're losers we still have the car like I want it to be picture perfect before we have the actual wedding so we invite people over after the wedding the Afterparty you

Keyknow we have like some cheese and some wine you know or just am I invited everyone's invited am I invited to the wedding invite anyone who wants to come anybody that wants to come but I mean

Mickthe wedding for me would just be it's it's like now that we've done everything that we want wanted you can quit the industry let's go get married have you ever thought about the fact that marriage typically provides much

Isabelle Brownstronger Financial Security and you could go to City Hall tomorrow and have a party a year and a half from now how but we're already living together so what's like marriage what is it yeah

Isabelle Brownwait what is what is the uh greater Financial Security if we're already sharing everything our money we live together I mean all kinds of it's easier to get a loan for a house you can combine your bank accounts you have much

Mickbetter tax obligations we don't really pay taxes um and B I mean we we kind of do but like only good

Mickfor you I don't yeah I mean I'm kind of libertarian I don't really believe in in paying are you a sovereign citizen no no I mean look I I do believe we need a

Mickgovernment I'm not I'm not like libertarian who thinks there's you know uh we don't shouldn't have a government or police or or some taxes we definitely need some taxes I'm just saying I don't

Brian Atlaswant to pay them okay sure sure sure so so so to bring it back to kind of what we were talking about your your fiance your girlfriend

Brian Atlasshe strips does only fans makes content with other men do you have any concerns for example I mean the obvious one to me is STDs M we get

TTS Readertested all the time and it's people wear protection um and you get Martin super CH 100 y thanks marquavius Mick and key

TTS Readermoney money money I was born poor I'm in my 30s and am now a multi-millionaire Brian can confirm that I can purchase

TTS Readeranything imaginable except this my soul my character my honor my reputation those are very much perishable not worth

Keyit what is a soul what is a soul your response to Mar wavus I think I get what you're trying to say but nothing bad's going to happen to us we're forever I'm not even worried like I never thought I would find anyone cuz both of us are

Mickreally weird it's hard for anyone to find their soulmate and once you find it then you're good like my my response is

Mickis uh I I don't believe in a soul and uh I I do meditate though and uh I just let

Mickmy mind be clear of thoughts and worries and depression and things like that so if if that's how you feel that's okay I I don't I don't think about it like I

Keysaid I have a question go ahead um in what ways has your IND industry negatively impacted you um well I really don't think it has

TTS Readerimpacted me obviously I don't like what I'm doing but it's not that big of a dealore i.d 729 f52 d24 f36 donated

TTS Reader$100 another tip for people dogging ke's man at the end of the day he's clapping her cheeks and you'll likely be buying her content ENT to watch it happen stay

TTS Readermad single and jerking her to her while she's getting clapped you're more a cup than him he's the pimp confirm and deny are you the pimp that that's right yeah we're each other's pimp we're we're like

Mickour you know and and you know what I at the end of the night uh she comes home to me and I get to give her a hug and a kiss and uh the rest of you are all paying for that so yeah they're just

Brian Atlasjealous because they're single behind a screen on on that note have you ever since being on the show this is your third appearance have you noticed an increase in only fan subscribers I have

Mickyeah oh God what you guys at least 100 yeah 100 what are you guys doing yes a ton of them are actually I did check last night and and there's tons of you

Mickthat are are subscribing and following her so uh if you don't like it then why are you giving us your money yo onlyfans.com whatever onlyfans.com

Mickwhatever okay um Okay so the STD thing is there a concern there no no because they do get tested for the

Mickindustry and then there is a protection um but most of them can be done with medicine nowadays if she did get one of the ones that you can't take care of medicine that would be a concern well

Brian Atlassure I mean there's the treatable ones but I mean the non-treatable ones would be a concern yeah if it did happen Visual and superch 100 yo thank you man

Mickhello Mr IRS agent yes that's them over there oh [ __ ] yes well you know what look we we don't pay uh a lot of taxes but we still have to pay some some taxes

Mickyou still have to pay okay only fans you still have to sign that stuff okay but yes takes a lot of your money too yeah and and you know what and she gets she doesn't uh her agency the management

Mickeverybody's getting a cut and by the time we pay the taxes she doesn't get to keep a lot of stuff too so if we paid a lot more of the taxes we wouldn't have a

Brian Atlaslot of money okay by the way guys there are 5,500 of you watching right now the chat is on fire guys get us to 2,000

Brian Atlaslikes if you can get us to 2,000 likes you know but uh yeah almost 6,000 watching sweet get us to 2,000 likes if you can okay

Keyso oh can I go back to my question um so you said that at times you want to quit and you come home and you hate your job yeah well I mean everyone has Jays like that at any job you know it's not just

Keythe adult industry everyone comes home crying like I I used to come home crying because my manager was a dick and I was making 400 bucks a week and you know they're like you're not wearing your uniform right you know and like I get

TTS Readerless micromanagement with the adult industry at least I get to look cute you know and show up when I want and choose ni donated $100 question to the cck in the corner

Keywhen you kiss your girl mouth do you usually taste a black man's oh my God that's like I obviously brush my I don't touch him until I showered and brush my teeth because hygiene you know even after you pee you know you don't want to

Keytouch your person like if he eats an onion I'm not going to kiss him right after if he's sick I'll make sure he you know blows his nose and she refuses my kiss in the morning you know usually sometimes his breath stinks and

TTS Readersometimes mine does too you know Norm so you brush your teeth truth donated 100 you have some self-respect your woman is a representation of yourself if

TTS Readeryour woman is a 304 then you are low value man there is thousands of people watching this and you only got 100 not a big

Mickaccomplishment uh word yeah I mean I think that's but I I guess so my question to you is hey you can't you can't expect you're I mean one or two% of the people are going to sub not everybody 5,000 people are not going to

Keysub their only fans I think that's an unrealistic there's people who are going to like you people who are not going to like you just like all of us at this table everyone's going to like some of us then like some of us less you know

Brian Atlaslike people have opinions you know but so it seemed like from what you said the primary reason that you got into doing adult content and stripping was for financial reasons for money and also

Keywell I got into dancing at the clubs because for one I was I wanted something glamorous and fun like sorry hold on black Socrates super chated $100

TTS Readerdude key opened herself up to danger and ridicule and still insists on sharing everything she gets with you and you still sit there and say you want a PR up

Mickyou don't deserve her and she doesn't deserve a guy so unwilling to sacrifice she resorts to sex work yeah but I mean a prenup too also means I don't get to take all of her

TTS Readermoney either I mean I literally just talked to oh my God the chat is on fire to the boyfriend as an epic gamer you

TTS Readercan get in a union and make 35 an hour starting if money is your issue there are plenty of options you're an able-bodied young man I'd never put myself I a position where my lover sells

Mickherself larar yeah like you can make money gaming I I don't play video games I I and it's not that I hate them I have tons of gamer friends I just don't I

Isabelle Browndon't care about video games I'm a musician I play guitar and and I play with bands I don't play games so I think a lot of us are hearing from both of you that there's some emotional wrestling with what your current situation is

Isabelle Brownlooking like right now you kind of want to quit and you say you really don't like your job but you're not sure when you want to retire and it seems to be escalating every day uh you don't want to know what's happening behind the scenes do you think that there's a chance that that could ruin the

Mickopportunity to get married or leave some sort of emotional permanence we're together forever I'm not even worried so I I think she definitely wants to I think she definitely wants to quit she

Mickshe comes back and and is just like I'm done with this job and she has weeks where she definitely is is tired of it and if she wants to do it then then by far she can do it um we're you know what

Mickif she doesn't if she doesn't want to then that's fine too it's it's uh as long as she's working and bringing in money and I'm working and bringing money whatever job she has um she's probably

Mickgoing to quit in the next you know she's 25 we'll probably say five more years of it what if she doesn't it could be theoretically what if you guys aren't married in a few years and the cycle has continued if she doesn't then I'll probably confront her and say look it's

Micktime to quit we have money coming in from other sources um I believe she can keep the only fans but she doesn't need to do the other stuff as long as the only fans is bringing in uh enough

Mickthat's that's why is that the boundary because that would be just like stuff that's already out there content that's already there you don't have to do very much can't be it doesn't have to be it's

Brian Atlasa very a very passive income I would say while the other stuff is more active income wait key if sorry it your name again is Mick Mick okay I thought it was Mick Nick for some reason key if he

Keystarted in only fans and started just like running through chicks like for Content would you have an issue with him like just [ __ ] other chicks for Content oh of course of course I would because I'm already making so much money he doesn't need to do that and he's mine

Brian Atlascan't touch anyone so who whoa okay we've we've unraveled another layer here so if he was making content strictly content no romantic no emotional connection you would have an issue with

Keyhim sleeping with other women oh of course like because I'm the one making money and he doesn't need to touch anyone else I don't even want to touch anyone else but like list Mick's a handsome guy yeah but he's mine so

Keyanyone touches him you die not literally but but you know so why is it okay the other way around then well because he we both decided this this is what we're going to do for so if he wants to have

Keyme quit I will and he needs to find another job that's not what I'm doing so has your job given you any trauma um every Dr every job can give you a little bit of trauma you got a big one I I

Brian Atlasdon't know you got a big one like really for him to answer he can answer it's up to him I would say it is uh pretty big yeah yeah it is all right Mick what listen yo this has been too one-sided

Keyhere you need to start an only fan son and start getting into the game then you know actually you just said that that would be a problem though okay so I have like a boundary so I was going to say I'm very torn on what I'm comfortable

Keywith because I haven't really decided yet but I do think i' I've tried to get him an um a sugar mama because I have sugar daddies like but he hasn't pursued it enough and I told him it's okay if he wants to cuz like but I guess she she

Mickdefinitely has a jealous streak where she if if I even talk to other girls who are just I have no intention of ever dating or I'm not flirting in it all and I'm just talking to them uh you know maybe they're just someone at the

Mickcashier counter and they're literally just at taking my order for coffee you know and she's gotten jealous like how that girl look at you and stuff like why is she looking at everyone feels that way everyone watch says everyone but I

Mickfeel like that's that's something she gets and I don't get that way when she talks to other guys I'm not like I don't think she's going to try to Bone a guy just cuz she's talking does that bother you it does bother me I hate jealousy I hate jealousy in a relationship I think

Mickwomen if she should know that I'm with her and just because I'm talking to another woman does not mean that I want to sleep with her and I that's how I feel but she definitely gets very protected well it's different because I'm not worried

Keybecause this is a podcast this you could talk to other women I don't care but like it's about what you say or I think it's maybe Tik Tok is very toxic because everyone's posting my man looked at this

Isabelle Browngirl and then they're posting it on Tik Tok and it's all but it's okay to create adult content with other men but he can't to make money on Tik Tok no but he would because it's for money the other stff isn't for money he would be doing

Keyit to make money too but you just said it wouldn't be okay if he made it wouldn't like if he had the only fans no he's okay if he has the only fans but he can't like touch anyone else no he no he's going to no he's going to sleep with other women Mick I'm your manager

Brian AtlasMick I'm going to be your only fans manager okay we're going to start your only fans it's going to be called one that's F hold on here's the name big dick Mick okay that's the name of your own that's what it is Mick I'm your

Isabelle Brownmanager I'm going to take 50% okay I I know I know how to do these things do you guys ever talk about this at home all the time everything is an open book you know so you've been together for over 5 years you're engaged but you

Isabelle Browndon't have a date for your wedding and there seems to be a dichotomy here between what people are comfortable with in the relationship but you're not on the same page with it is that something you talk about at home yeah we we talk

Mickabout all this stuff we're kind of talking about right now um I think we just haven't come to maybe an agreement mint on it yet and and we still have um well you tell me you tell me I will quit

Keythis adult industry now if you want me to but if you you're always like oh but come on babe we need to make money so it's more you make being lazy not wanting to do stuff as much oh my as

Mickmuch as I love you both of us got to bring in a little bit of money [ __ ] wait so hold on just more about the jealousy thing like that thing we can't agree she thinks it's okay to be jealous I don't believe that's Health you know girls are

Cassandramore jealous than that's just a relationship do you feel your jealousy is Amplified though because as much as you say you don't care and you know that you guys are like committed there is a part of you that feels like he's going to leave for what you do never I'm not even worri so then

Madison Vuwhere does the jealousy come from and why is it Amplified if he can't talk to people but you're sleeping with other people that's hold on she wanted to come in go ahead I think jealousy period like aside from sleeping with other people

Madison Vuisn't all relationships yeah exactly like every you can't say that you you've had a boyfriend or girlfriend before and you don't get jealous when they're talking to other girlss or boys like

Madison Vuevery single relationship holds jealousy and I wanted to ask Mick a question actually but would you start or go into the adult

Mickindustry um that's not something I would actually be probably comfortable with I would be okay with starting an only fans but not the adult industry aspect he's

Micktoo shy and nervous for that my a little anxiety I mean I get a little nervous with that type of stuff I don't feel like I could be uh comfortable with that both of us are nervous just being here

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