Brian KICKS OUT Rude Girl! She STABBED Her Blind Date For REVENGE?! | Dating Talk #115

Date: 2023-11-06

Duration: 5h 57m

Guests

Brian Atlas

WWifeu Delila (DT115)>

TTiffany (DT115)>

MMadison (DT115)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_02Nila Shake(guest)

SPEAKER_03Wifeu Delila(guest)

SPEAKER_04Noel(guest)

SPEAKER_05El (Ellie)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_13Naa(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrian confronts Delilah early in show about being on her Tamagotchi: "you explicitly told you before the podcast not to be on your phone." Sets up later ejection.

“when we explicitly told you before the podcast not to be on your phone... it's why we explicitly told you before the show to not be on your phone”

Key MomentBrian kicks out Delilah: confirms she messaged the show first, calls her rude and entitled, and tells her to get out.

“you're entitled you're rude you have TikTok brain you cannot stay focused... it's incredibly rude to say that you're bored... I'm going to ask you to leave okay so get up get the f out”

OtherDelilah kicked off: Brian tells her to leave after she calls the show boring and is repeatedly rude. She exits with "good luck on your dead ass podcast."

“yeah go ahead Madison good luck on your dead ass podcast bro bro you got no followers you're a clown”

OtherNaa reveals she stabbed her blind date twice in the neck with a pink knife during a manic episode in Las Vegas. Charged with attempted murder, received probation. Believed she was in a movie the entire time including during police interrogation (thought she was playing Carrie from Homeland).

“I had a blinding situation in March of last year I was dealing with a lot of mental health issues... I was charged with attempt of murder... my case is closed now”

QuoteNaa explains she thought she was filming a movie scene the entire time — from the hotel to the police interrogation (Homeland) to jail (Orange Is the New Black).

“I thought I was playing Carrie from Homeland and this is some kind of spy movie I'm doing... whenever I was in custody I thought the movie scene just continued in jail and we're shooting Orange Is the New Black”

QuoteNaa reveals she was asked by police to explain the stabbing, attributed it to the US killing an Iranian general (said in a manic state); Homeland Security investigated and found no terrorism links.

“I really thought I was playing a role in a movie... I had a manic episode... what I was saying is gibberish”

ControversyNaa disputes that her light sentence was due to gender privilege; Brian argues the disparity in sentencing between men and women is 8x greater than the racial disparity, pointing to a gynocentric justice system.

“I stand my firm belief that it could have been any gender... men as compared to women get 63% higher prison sentences”

QuoteBrian argues if genders were reversed and a man had stabbed a woman on a blind date, he would be in prison for a very long time — pointing to gynocentric justice system.

“if you had been a man... if everything about your case was the same but it had been a man doing it he'd be in prison for a very very long time”

QuoteBrian reads 1950s home economics article "Tips to Look After Your Husband" and asks panel to react.

“have dinner ready plan ahead even the night before... prepare yourself take 15 minutes to rest... be a little gay and a little more interesting”

QuoteNoel shares that her parents met at JC Penney, father served 2-year LDS mission, mother waited, they dated 2 weeks, got engaged, mother stayed home raising 7 kids for 15-20 years — and she has never once seen her parents argue.

“my dad and my mother met when they were 19-20... my dad went on to serve his mission in Uruguay for 2 years and my mother waited for him... they dated for 2 weeks got engaged... I've never once seen my parents argue”

QuoteBrian's dating stance: women's financial success is largely irrelevant to men's attraction because women don't share resources with men the way men do — "your money is your money, our money is our money."

“in a marriage or in a relationship the man's money is your money is our money but your money is still your money in a relationship”

OtherNaa reveals she went on 10 dates in one day while working for a restaurant startup earning commission per diner brought in.

“I ended up going on 10 dates in one day... breakfast a brunch three... for the business essentially”

OtherNaa's Valentine's Day story: non-exclusive boyfriend couldn't perform, she found and hooked up with a new Tinder match the same night by 10pm.

“my boyfriend couldn't get it up on Valentine's Day so I canceled the date and went home and found another guy on Tinder”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship status round

Brian introduces panel of 7 guests plus co-host Kiki. Each guest states name, age, occupation, and relationship status. Notable: Delilah (OnlyFans) immediately on Tamagotchi, warned by Brian. El in fresh post-breakup situationship seen main guy same morning. Naa is single. Nila in exclusive relationship with NDA agreement. Tiffany single at UCSB. Noel single. Madison in relationship.

Delilah kicked off the show

After Delilah calls the show boring and plays with her Tamagotchi on air, Brian confronts her. She claims she was contacted by the show; Brian pulls up Instagram DMs showing she messaged them first (August 22nd). After further rudeness, Brian tells her to leave. She exits saying "good luck on your dead ass podcast." Brian confirms he intended to kick her from the start.

Naa: blind date stabbing story

Naa tells story of stabbing her blind date in Las Vegas, March prior year. Was off antipsychotic medication, in manic state; believed she was acting in a movie (Homeland spy role during interrogation, Orange Is the New Black in jail). Stabbed blind date twice in the neck with pink knife during sex at hotel. Charged with attempted murder, pled to 2 counts false imprisonment; received probation. Homeland Security investigated, found no terrorism links. Wrote and published autobiography about the experience. Has book signing at Barnes & Noble. Donates proceeds to National Mental Health Alliance. Discussion of gender disparity in sentencing.

Brian's partner preferences

Brian describes his ideal partner preferences: no plastic surgery (no BBL, fake breasts, lip filler), preference for natural appearance, no OnlyFans, prefers girl who is fully committed from the start. Dislikes when a woman is seeing other men while he pursues her. Mentions his preference for large labia. Discusses female virginity and pair bonding.

Gender roles and the 1950s housewife article

Brian reads a 1950s home economics article on how to look after your husband. Panel goes around: Madison, Noel, and Nila mostly agree; Ellie partially agrees (only if woman not working); Naa thinks it depends on the partnership; Tiffany considers it outdated context but some parts valid. Extended debate on traditional gender roles, women staying home vs working, masculinity, and feminity.

Men's dating preferences: money, career, and attraction

Discussion of whether women's career success and income make them more attractive to men. Brian argues men don't care about women's earnings because women don't share resources the way men do. Female doctor vs male doctor dating patterns. Ellie's mother as breadwinner discussed. Grid One Motorsports donation sparks debate about boss babes vs availability.

Dating landscape: promiscuity, body count, and pair bonding

Brian's extended monologue and panel discussion on why men care about body count: STD risk, infidelity probability, pair bonding degradation, paternity certainty, evolutionary psychology. Madison defends her stance on low body count for high-value men. Ellie pushes back — argues reformed promiscuous women deserve love. Brian explains alpha widow concept.

Dating etiquette: first dates, flowers, situationships

Discussion of college dating culture: no proper first dates, mostly parties then situationships. Brian argues bringing flowers is not rewarded in modern dating landscape — women are put off by it if not already interested. Madison shares her boyfriend bought her flowers third day and told her he loved her early, which she loved. Brian says he won't bring flowers for promiscuous women. Debate on whether Ellie's situationship roster is fair.

Self-rating round (looks 1-10)

Naa rates herself 6-7 (was a 10 a few years ago, medication affects body). Noel: 7-8. Madison: 9. Ellie: 6 (6.5 on a good day). Tiffany: 8. Chat asked to rate Tiffany: mostly 4-6. Brian says he and Tiffany are a "looks match." Discussion of whether chat ratings are accurate or dominated by incels.

Height preferences round

Each guest states height and minimum/preferred male height. Nila (5'2"): minimum 6'4" (current boyfriend). Naa (5'5"): minimum 5'9". Ellie (5'4"): minimum 5'10"-5'11". Tiffany (5'5"): preferred 6'1"-6'2", minimum 5'8". Madison (5'2"): preferred 5'10"+. Brian discusses height preferences as looks-based and double standard compared to weight preferences.

Naa: 10 dates in one day and Valentine's Day stories

Naa reveals she went on 10 dates in one day while working for a restaurant startup (commission for bringing in diners). One restaurant hosted two overlapping dinner dates; she tipped bartender to stall first date. Valentine's Day stories: first year — non-exclusive boyfriend couldn't perform sexually, she found a new Tinder date same night. Second year — online-only relationship with man in California; met in person and he was cold; ended up hooking up with his friend instead.

Clubbing, relationships, and male friends debate

Extended debate: Brian argues committed men shouldn't allow girlfriends to go to bars/clubs (temptation, opportunity, lowered inhibitions). Ellie pushes back on trust and boundaries. Madison agrees with Brian on clubs. Ellie had boundary of not clubbing in last relationship. Brian challenges whether Ellie's male DJ friends are just friends (argues most would sleep with her if given opportunity). Advice to men: don't commit to women who go to clubs.

Transcript

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Noellike not have conflict because she was like like submissive to him like did she have any opinions well I think the thing is my dad is if you would have met him

Noelhe's well I think is the definition of a top G so he's in his masculinity which allows my mom to be in her full femininity because he's able to provide

Noeland she was just able to so I think I agree yeah I think it it's a two-way street I think gender roles are an amazing thing I believe in them I don't

Noelnecessarily think that means one gender is better than the other but I think we both contribute to make something beautiful I age how is staying at home being feminine though I don't think well

El (Ellie)what's what's feminine about working going out and working I think that's a very strong feminine thing to be able to provide for yourself well yeah definitely like if you're not married of

Noelcourse you know you need Prov masculine yeah but I think you hypothetically like if you are married you know the women should be able to be a woman and be at home I was just going to say that I feel

Nila Shakelike men and women are so different and like it it's in great ways like obviously which is why they should specifically stay in their position to

Nila Shakewhat uh masculine men do and what feminine women do and which is why I think I think that more traditional relationships like your parents had and like my parents had and I feel like a

Noellot of our parents had were just they just are more successful because my mom did go back to work so once my youngest brother started um school that that's when she went back to work she went back to work got her

NoelNursing degree and now she works but she spent probably 15 20 years just at home being a wife and then you know obviously once the kids are grown she got a little bored but yeah I think that's the best

El (Ellie)Dynamic do you guys think that like artists like Fe like Rihanna per se like that's her job is masculine like her providing and having a a music career

El (Ellie)and being a strong impactful woman like do you do do you think that's masculine like being successful like you said your previous statement was like do you think

Nila Shakebeing home is feminine I think it is in ways where naturally if a woman is going to be home she's probably going to be taking care of the household and um taking care of her kids being able to

El (Ellie)nurture her kids and her husband and things like that so yeah so is woman's only purpose to stay at home and clean the house and have children I don't think that's her only purpose just

Brian Atlassaying it's feminine yeah that's what it's not bad for the women to be masculine I do want to touch I think you you had said something about if she's

Brian Atlasdoing nothing yeah right could you this was like a few minutes ago could you rephrase that okay so for instance my mom is the red winner of my family like

El (Ellie)cuz my parents are divorced my dad's the bread winner of that household my mom's the bread winner of her household my stepdad when he was out of work would do basically what that listed like he would

El (Ellie)drive us to school drive us to dance class like you know clean the house make sure it was perfect be in a good mood when she got home cuz she was on her feet all day type thing she's a celebrity hair stylist so I mean my

El (Ellie)mom's badass she's super cool but I just think did she do your hair yes she also does actually I don't I don't know if I can say that's fine that's fine um but yeah I mean I think it goes both ways

El (Ellie)for sure but I don't I would say my mom or my stepdad being at home like is does that take away his masculinity like being at home and taking care of things

Brian Atlasbecause my mom's working I don't think I don't think it's necessarily wrong like if if you just do the calculus in a relationship and you realize because of

Brian Atlaseither my educ achievement or just because of your IQ or you're really intelligent if you make the determination that the woman is more capable of securing resources for the

Brian Atlasfamily that might be the best route to go um however I think there is something to be said for there's probably a men

Brian Atlashave a greater biological drive to provide and to achieve do you think that's based off of like how you were specifically raised

Brian Atlasthere there could there certainly could be a nurture component to it but I think there's a very strong nature component to it like we that's just through our Evolution we were the ones who men we

Brian Atlaswent out we hunted we Pro we provisioning uh so and there's also there's also a mating pressure on men

Brian Atlasthat doesn't exist in women like most men don't care about it doesn't make women it's not that we don't care about it your success your status your money does

Brian Atlasnot make us more attracted to you like I would say that's like just specifically maybe for you like I don't think you could say that as all men sure sure there are some but I'm speaking in

Brian Atlasgeneralities here I'd say the majority of men most men don't care about the money that the money that you bring to the table or your success or your status

El (Ellie)but don't you find it more attractive to have a woman you know be like a badass be a badass yeah like be like you know she like wouldn't you be ATT Boss B like

El (Ellie)a boss you find wouldn't you find a girl that like owns a business and like is super cool and like you know like you you don't find is it because it's

Brian Atlasintimidating because like because masculine it has nothing to it has nothing to do masculine let me I'll just I'll answer it has nothing to do with being intimidated also just because you're a business owner it doesn't make

El (Ellie)you a cool person um no I'm just using an example yeah so I mean no it doesn't uh well why why do you think masculine

Brian Atlasmen are less attracted to those strong women well I don't think it's not even necessar about masculine men but it here's here's one of the big things

Brian Atlasright um there's there's gender roles in society and feminis feminists have done attempted to do a good job of getting R rid of the some of the gender roles

Brian Atlasthat ostensibly don't come at the benefit of women however a lot of the gender roles like when it comes to feminism when it comes to a lot of women you guys want to keep the gender roles

Brian Atlasthat benefit that benefit you abely I'm not yeah I'm for example like a lot of girls even if they consider themselves to be feminist they still want a guide to pay for the first date even though they believe in gender equality and feminism do you want a guide to pay for

El (Ellie)the first date I mean I I'm I'm down to split but like but would you prefer for a guy to pay for the first date um yeah I would yeah do you think it'd be more

El (Ellie)attractive would it be him taking the lead a bit would it be him a bit more in his masculine I wouldn't just I wouldn't call it like masculine I would just be like oh it's nice it's nice that someone

Brian Atlaslike took you know what I mean now do do not all some women are fine with splitting the bill but would you agree that the majority of either the majority or a lot of

Brian Atlaswomen want the guy to pay for the first absolutely and I've heard from a lot of women that if the guy didn't pay for the first date there wouldn't be a second date that's just an immediate deal break for a lot of

Brian Atlaswomen there and again there are some women that will split the bill 50/50 there's almost no guy there no guy can reasonably or logically have the

Brian Atlasexpectation that the girl is ever going to pay the bill in its entirety there might be some guys who think maybe she's cool with splitting but they also know there's a lot of girls that would prefer for the bill to be paid no guys are able

Brian Atlasto go in and say like with the expectation of like she's going to pay for the date MH so um you guys want to keep the traditional gender roles that

Brian Atlasbenefit you while getting rid of all the other ones um so what I I guess what I'm trying to get at is because women expect men to provide for example paying for

Kikithe first date there's a mating pressure on us as men to make hold on grid One Motorsports donated $100 no a boss babe is not more

Kikiattractive to most men if you are busy with your business you are too busy for a man because women do not spend the time and resources in the same way a man

Brian Atlasspends his time and resources you need to re-evaluate there's a thank you grid one there's a mating pressure on men that does not exist on women you're not

Brian Atlasexpected to like pay for first AIDS or to provide long-term in a relationship there are some women that are to will be cool with a 50/50 relationship and they're going to have their career and it's going to be they're going to

Brian Atlasequally contribute to the household income however there's I don't know what the split is there's a very large portion of women who want to be stay-at-home mothers and don't want to work when they're pregnant or when

Brian Atlasthey're raising kids or at any point throughout the marriage so this creates a very strong pressure on men to uh achieve and that pressure does not exist

Brian Atlasin women because there's no there's no guys who are like there's maybe some guys that are like okay I'm really looking to be a stay-at-home dad but most men like we don't have that as a

Brian Atlasfallback most men know like if we don't provide that like scorches 80 90% of Our dating prospects so wouldn't it be nice if you didn't have like that pressure to

Brian Atlashave like an equal yeah like an equal like an equal person it would be nice if there was no war but the reality is is there will there will always be border

Brian Atlasconflicts there will always be War there it's just in our biology and like we can't I suppose yes it would be nice but

Brian Atlaswe can't rely on the exception to the rule in this case and generally speaking like yeah most women want guys to provide and pay for the first date so no

El (Ellie)you're not I mean you're not wrong about that I mean I think a lot of women want to have that like safe net of like oh like if they're paying for the first

El (Ellie)date you know that's what they'll bring to the relationship type thing like sure sure you know what I mean like if some if they pay for a date they're taking initiative they're saying that you know

Brian Atlasright they enjoyed the time with you I don't know like and I'm I I just want to clear up one thing like if a woman for example wants to pursue she wants to like research diseases and her like life

Brian Atlasmission is to like she wants to try to develop medicines or therapies to cure uh certain diseases I think that's wonderful and I think if a woman want that's great for you like it's great for

Brian Atlasyou however just from a dating perspective um the one of the reasons men don't really care about your success or your career or your money is because of kind of what I already just talked

Brian Atlasabout women do not share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women I can't go I can't go in the next year on 21st dates and ever have the expectation that the

Brian Atlasgirl is going to pick up and pay for the entire tab I can never have that expectation so if you make a lot of money I don't really benefit from it but if you go if

Brian Atlasyou like even a woman who's really wealthy like she bro she kind of like acts like a Brokey when it comes to dating like she's not going to pay for

Brian Atlasdates she's not going to take me on trips she's at bare minimum she'll split which is I that's cool but that's why it just we don't reap any sort of tangible

Brian Atlasbenefit from your success because in a marriage or in a relationship the man's money is your money is our money but your money is still your money in a

Brian Atlasrelationship so like look I guess some girls will like buy gifts or whatever but first date first couple dates girls aren't paying for dates generally

Brian Atlasspeaking sure some do but and you look at like sugar daddy sugar mamas right yeah there's there are sugar mamas but there's a lot more sugar daddies even um

Nila Shakelike even when a man is being provided for fully by his woman he's also looked down upon as like a [ __ ] and a [ __ ] but when a woman's being provided for by her man no one really says anything like

Brian Atlasthey won't put her down PR a man will be put down yeah so yeah we just pure purely on the like what if you're dating a guy who makes a lot of

Brian Atlasmoney you might enjoy some of the benefits of that lifestyle um you know maybe he'll take he'll take you out pay for dinners Etc but like women typically

Brian Atlaswhen they're successful they typically they're not like okay let me start like dropping a ton of money on dudes it's like nah I remember I was on a dating app a long time ago I matched with an

Brian Atlasattorney she's probably out out earning me at the at the time making she's a litigation attorney making $200,000 a year and in her bio she said even though I'm an attorney even though I make good money I still want the guy to like treat

Brian Atlasme like a princess and a queen and a lady even though she makes $200,000 a year it's like well you can pay for the date like why not split you know

Brian Atlasyeah no it's definitely a double standard for sure word word but uh and then I think the other thing if you're you mentioned like a business owner uh

Brian AtlasI'm a business owner uh it's pretty taxing TimeWise so it's to me it if you're super focused on your business I'm going to feel like

El (Ellie)I'm less of a priority in the relationship so it doesn't go both ways what do you mean so like if you had a successful business like wouldn't the woman feel

Brian Atlasthat as like women don't feel that way when they see a successful man but you would feel that way for like a successful woman well because the burden of providing on us we I do think as men

Brian Atlaswe we do need to like have our priority be our career so that we can support our girlfriend support our wife support our kids um and uh it I think it's interesting

Brian Atlaslike when when men make a lot of money they tend to think awesome I can support my wife and my kids when women make a lot of money they think I'm a strong independent woman that doesn't need a

El (Ellie)man that's always interesting to me well I think most successful women don't do it for like they do it for themselves do you know what I mean like and I get what you're saying I get there's a pressure

El (Ellie)for men to be like Oh I'm working to provide whereas women work to you know feel good I guess or like work to feel accomplished or you know be successful

Brian Atlasbut like I don't know I don't think it makes them less attractive per se no it I I don't think it makes a woman necessarily less it's not even the money

El (Ellie)component um um it doesn't make her less attractive but it doesn't make her more attractive but why does like a woman's life need to be like all of about the mans do you know what I mean no it

Brian Atlasdoesn't but you were I think you were asking uh something about like do guys like boss I forgot the exact what originated the conversation boss babes

Brian Atlasor boss ass [ __ ] but um it's good for you but take for example I would say that a man who's a a doctor a lot of women would see the the

Brian Atlasmoney the status because that's a very well-respected career being a doctor that wouldn't make him like more attractive from a romantic point of view

Brian Atlasbut I can't say that the that a woman who is a doctor for me as a guy that's a great career you're congratulations I'm sure you're doing well you must be very

Brian Atlasintelligent but it doesn't make her more attractive like I'll go date there's a 30-year-old woman who is a res a

Brian Atlasresident at a hospital and she's making six figures I'll go date the 20-year-old who works at Chick-fil-A yeah who's Who's hotter right no yeah no I get no I

Brian Atlasget what you're saying I guess so I mean it just I will say though that like I think intelligence can be is attractive in

Brian Atlaswomen uh because obviously I think intelligence there's something genetic there so like a woman who's intelligent will probably have that'll impact the IQ of our children to some degree yeah so

Brian Atlaslike I'm not saying I like just total bimbos but like yeah um you're also I would argue that um regardless of your

Kikiuh career achievement okay donated $99 as a doctor I see this all the time and Brian is 100% correct cam H maybe I don't know if you can talk about your

Brian Atlascolleagues but but do you like if you were to compare the female doctors versus the male doctors like who's more likely are the male doctors more likely to date nurses versus the female doctors

Brian Atlasare more likely to want to date other doctors or like somebody who's more on the level because I think it's the case that with for example oh we got another one hold on I'll come back to sports donated

Kiki$100 you still don't get it men can work 60 hours a week and they will make time for the a woman a woman Works 40 hours a weak and have time for no one but themselves we are different feminism is

El (Ellie)a lie and has failed you learn from the mistake feminism is a lie do you have a response to grid One Motorsports well I just think if you know it's a double

El (Ellie)standard like it's is it yeah I mean if if a guy has time to work and also be with his wife then a woman that does the

Brian Atlassame thing also has the time for their husband too you know yeah going back to camh's thing he says as a doctor I see this all the time and Brian is 100% correct

Brian Atlasum I would say generally speaking like take a male doctor male attorney versus female doctor female

Brian Atlasattorney a male doctor male attorney he'll date like a hot Barista does not care like does not really care about her career whereas if you look at a woman

Brian Atlaswho's an ER who's a doctor she's probably going to want to date a guy who's like on her level or higher yeah so that's good right or no isn't that well that's I mean that's just hypergamy

Brian Atlaslike men date down frequently men marry down date down why do you think they date down what do you mean socioeconomically because you think they date down because they can yo doc thank you so much for the gifted 20

El (Ellie)memberships go ahead do you think they date down because they don't want the competition of being with someone on their level I just they just don't care about I just again I don't think they

Brian Atlasjust don't care you guys don't think about like stuff like I don't think like for I would say for most men uh obviously I

Brian Atlasthink one of the counters to to my position a little bit is given and I've said this before given the like economic

Brian Atlasand financial climate I would argue most households need two incomes so you could you you can make the argument that actually most men would want to find a

Brian Atlaswoman who because of the economic climate and that you need two incomes to like hold down a household especially if you want to have kids that they are it is going to be part of the calculus when

Brian Atlaspicking someone to partner with my argument though is that that's never for most men it's never going to like if we meet like a really [ __ ] amazing girl

Brian Atlaswho earns significantly less than us that's never going to be a deal breaker for a guy whereas I would argue for a

Brian Atlaslot of women if you run into a guy who's not like at some sort of oh I see what you're saying the standards are very

Brian Atlasdifferent like yeah yeah so um yeah no that that does make sense that's totally valid but uh and also

Brian Atlastypically like if if you're making a lot of money typically those jobs are going to be a little typically stressful um you might be working a lot and

El (Ellie)um I don't know like a guy probably wants a girl who's a bit more available I'd say I think I don't know like I'm from La so a lot of guys find it more

Kikiattractive when women are donated $99 agreed I have seen female subspecialist Physicians Like Me Marry male physicians in a less competitive fields and it does often negatively

Brian Atlasaffect their relationships this is rarely the case with male doctors SL female nurses the natural hierarchy works yeah I would imagine a male doctor is much more likely well then again

Brian Atlasthere's not a lot of male nurses so I feel like this is not the most perfect yeah thing but um a I I would argue that a male doctor male attorney a very high

Brian Atlasachieving High earning man is much more likely or willing to date a woman who does is like earning significantly less

Brian Atlasthan him um so is camh a woman though I've seen female subsp specialist Physicians like

Brian Atlasme oh okay all right what kind of you know what kind of what are we talking here we talking orthopedist sir what are we talking here

Kikiokay gynecologist OBG ym what's up per she she's seen some oues for sure okay oh donated

Kiki9 I am a dude lol also there are of male nurses as well yeah fire um were you going to say something sorry I forgot

Brian Atlasyeah know same same yeah same dope saw dope yeah um but uh what was I I'm trying to remember what I was going to say

Brian Atlasuh oh wait there's a video I wanted to pull up on this uh Frick totally forgot oh wait Nick I don't know if you

Brian Atlasremember it was like a woman it was a Tik Tok and she was like crying because working is hard do you remember is it pulled up no it's not pulled up is it

Brian Atlasthe Tik Tok there's like a Tik Tok the girl in her car I don't recall but she was like um I feel like we've reacted to two of these she was like oh my God 9 to I'm working 9 to5 and then I have to

Brian Atlascommute we have that I don't think we I don't think we reacted to it but I think the thing is though is like at least from my

Brian Atlasview is that pursuing a career is is pretty empty like by the time you're in your

Brian Atlas30s you're going to be like is this really like the most fulfilling thing in the world being a I don't know what you want to do exact do you know what you want to do or I mean I have a I could

El (Ellie)either take over my dad's outdoor advertisement business okay um is that like Billboards or something Billboards yeah um I would take over that or I

El (Ellie)would work with uh media management as well okay media management or like my parents don't want me to do this but what you major again

Brian AtlasCommunications I don't think like the ultimate fulfillment in life comes from a career and like most people are not going to have particularly like fulfilling

Brian Atlasjobs or careers you're going to be a wage slave for some company that doesn't give a [ __ ] about you and if there's economic hard times even if you've been loyal to the company they're going to

Brian Atlasfire you and like yeah I don't think sitting in front like a lot of people's jobs is essentially like sitting in front of a computer all day like that's not really

Brian Atlasit's not good for your health I I do it I sit in front of the computer a lot it's not good for your body it's not good for your health um I personally don't think being a slave to the money

Brian Atlasfor your whole life is fulfilling what's that song by The Verve Bittersweet Symphony you're a slave to the money and then you die like yeah it's not I sure we can pull it we can watch

Brian Atlasit okay oh yeah okay's upset let's play it go ahead oh wait wait wait so can you make us a little bigger yeah wait what does qotd mean again is it quote

Unknownquestion of the day question of the day can you start from the beginning I know I'm probably just being so dramatic and annoying but this is my first job like my first 9 to5 job after

Unknowncollege and I'm in person and I'm commuting in the city and it takes me [ __ ] forever to get there there's no way I'm going to be able to afford living in the city right now so that's off the table like [ __ ] duh if I was

Unknownable to walk to work and it it'd be fine but I'm not so it literally takes me like I leave here like I get on the train at 7:30 and I don't get home till like 6:15 earliest and then like I don't have time to do anything I don't I want

Unknownto shower eat my dinner and go to sleep I don't have time or energy to cook by dinner either like I don't have energy to work out like that's out the window like I'm so upset oh my God nothing to

Unknowndo with my job at all but just like the 9: to 5 schedule in general is crazy being in the office 9 to 5 like if it was remote you get off at 5: and you're home and everything's fine but like I'm

Unknownnot home it takes me long to get home and like like people that drive to the office like it doesn't you don't get off at 5: and I know it could be worse I know I could be working longer but like I literally get off it's pitch black

Unknownlike I don't have energy how do you have friends like how do you have time to like meet like a guy I don't know like how do you have time for like dating like I don't have time for anything and

Brian AtlasI'm like so stressed out and I'm also getting my period so that's why I'm all but like am I so dramatic it's fine cool um and there's another video Nick I sent it to the Instagram page I

Brian Atlassent it to ourself if you can pull it up it's sort of related to that any thoughts on that video guys any thought that sucks I think to be fair like I don't think she she's wrong like cuz she

Brian Atlassaid she has to commute like two hours or something both way was it two hours she said I know that's [ __ ] a long day if you have to commute 2 hours work a 9 to 5 and then commute two hours back

Brian Atlaslike yeah as soon as you get home you pretty much eat and have to go to sleep so I think she's wrong but like Nick you got the other video can you once we got

El (Ellie)another video this one's it's pretty good oh jump scare go

Unknownahead whoever fought for women to get jobs

Unknownwhy why didn't we do that I am so tired I want to just put my feet up like

Brian AtlasI am oh my God it's literally me every Sunday morning um but uh yeah no I think uh I

Brian Atlasmean I think the careers are wonderful but just from like a purely dating perspective I think most men it's it's a very small or not even part of the equation in terms of what we're going to

Brian Atlasfind attractive in a partner um me personally I'm fairly successful don't really care at all

Brian Atlasabout a girl's oh wait there's another clip we can watch Sophia Frankle I don't know if you know the call her daddy podcast she she used to be on the there's a clip of her saying and I think

Brian Atlasshe's very successful in her own right she went viral recently because she um said that on a first date and Nick if you're able to try to find the Tik Tok

Brian Atlasvideo of this Sophia Frankle asks men their for a bank account statement on their first date or

Tiffanysomething Sher 7 huh Sher 7 are you talking about what what huh what did you what did you say huh Who video sopia Frank Sophia Frankle okay

Brian Atlasnever mind um she went viral for let us know when you have it Nick should I up on Google or t uh just Google Sophia Frankle says she asks

Naadates for their Bank a bank account statement or something feel like it would be better to check credit score maybe could be I don't

Nila Shakeknow it is draining though having to like work a full-time job like I don't know I I I go to school fulltime and I work full-time and

Nila Shakeliterally Sundays and Tuesdays are the only time I have to myself before I come here and it's like I barely have time to even clean my house or make my bed every single day it's terrible and it's definitely not

Brian Atlasfulfilling you able to find it Nick or okay um well let me do a chat here while we have it while you're trying to find that grid One Motorsports question for the panel what is your best night in jail

Brian Atlasstory uh who hears been in jail Tiffany no be honest I know you've been arrested no I'm just kidding um what no okay you're so unfunny you're

Naanot I mean there's a lot of different stories um I mean um I don't know it's

Naajust like that I can think of on top of my head is like because like they categorize You by like where your crimes are because I was like charged with

Naaattempt of murder they cized me with the same level of people I would say sure um so there was situations where my roommate was hitting on me a lot and it

Naawas making me uncomfortable so that was one of them but I don't have any like wild crazy ones there's probably like a lot of fights breaking out okay all right it's very common like almost every

Tiffanyday so how do you feel about transgender women entering like Jesus Christ this go ahead say your thing yeah so

Naaum I don't like like I have a preference I don't want to date anybody who's trans but if that is your preference and no about jail though oh like like prison

Naahow do you feel like trans wom being kept I do believe like like they should definitely provide that um because if you identify as a woman and and you're you a man and not woman and you don't

Tiffanyfeel safe and comfortable to be in a main jail I don't think they should force you to be in that if Brian identifies as a woman and do you think he should be let in a woman's

Naaprison ideally I would think maybe there needs to be like uh I know protective custody is something that is available for people who were like um I would say

Naaknown in the media I'm not sure I'm not a policy maker but um I don't want to make men uncomfortable also don't want to make women uncomfortable so honestly I don't have a perfect answer for it I

Brian Atlasthink there should be a separate for them hey Tiffany if I went to prison and I like wanted to have a conjugal visit

Brian Atlaswould you be down no oh okay jeez wow okay Rude why would I visit you what if I like I never mind okay all right do you have a debate

Madisonabout men versus women did you have you got it I did so yeah okay go ahead I'm not joking I have asked the

Kikilast redu I dated for donated $100 Brian W being Coro L solely to

Kikiprovide for family necessity for man no fulfillment Bo Orby homeless thimble Munch Mormons trying their best stop hating pink jacket bits facts how does

Kikigirl number one thinks Islam and Christianity can mix 75%

Nila Shake25% go ahead um I was born a Muslim and raised a Muslim up until like fifth grade and then I switched to Christian

Nila Shakeschool but I was still Muslim and then four months ago I got baptized and the reason why I'm 75 25 not Haram wait

Nila Shakeyou're 75 What Muslim 25 you said no no 75% Muslim and 25% Abdul yeah get the rock the last time get the Rocks okay go

Nila Shakeahead she said okay well I meant 75 Muslim 25 Christian and the reason why I say I'm 75 and 25 is because oh is because I'm still like exploring what I

Nila Shakewant to be even though it sounds a little gay but I'm exploring what I want to be like which religion I want to insert myself into fully if that makes sense or whoever asked

Brian Atlasit okay word cool word cool cool um oh the

Madisonvide I'm not joking I have asked the last three dudes I've dated for their bank account info on the first date I don't judge people's actions I look at the intention behind it so like why do

Madisonyou ask for that because I only want to date a wealthy guy that has money valid so you're getting straight to the point I think you know I have a job I'm very successful so I think I have every right

Brian Atlasto be like hi are we on the same level or am I wasting my time that's harsh she's I think she's probably I don't know the details I mean

Brian Atlasshe dropped the ball with the call her daddy thing but she started her own podcast she's probably a millionaire um she seems to care very deeply about a guy's income despite the fact that she's

Brian Atlasa millionaire I would argue that there's very few men who are millionaires who like need their girl to be a millionaire like they just don't most men do not

Nila Shakecare how old is she do you know late maybe LD excuse me mid to late 20s I feel like especially a lot of men that are mid 20s are not on L yeah yeah

Nila Shakethey're like not even on her level yet so she's dating within her age range she's most likely not going to find a guy as success even older most she's a

Brian Atlasmillionaire so most men are not I think the average income is what I think it's changed recently but it used to be what

Brian Atlas45,000 per year now maybe I've heard 60,000 but I don't know what it actually is um good times good times okay I got some notes from everybody here we're going to get into the notes for all of

Brian Atlasyou um flake flake flake I got notes for people that flaked got to love it uh Delilah I had some notes for Delilah but

Brian Atlasshe got the boot uh Tiffany ah yes Tiffany yes here we are I already talked about it oh no we have more we have more actually wait let's go

Brian Atlasto hold on did you provide anything wait what are you talking did you provide any you did Ellie right okay or excuse me Sor I misread it l um recently out of a

Brian Atlasfoury relationship was it four year or three year it was like three and a half okay but like four you wrote my boyfriend of8 months cheated on me and I found out by looking through his phone because he was acting weird we then continu dating for three more years I

Brian Atlasthink you told us some of this in the beginning he was an actor and you have a lot of opinions now about why you should not date an actor or someone in the industry why so what about the actor

El (Ellie)thing I think dating okay so from my experience dating an actor there's okay so like basically what we were previously talking about how you know if

El (Ellie)women worked they wouldn't have enough time for the guy whatever like sometimes the guy does not like actors do not have time for you if they're working like

El (Ellie)wait really no like it cuz most actors don't have jobs well well when they don't have a job they're like in a deep depression they're all up on you and

El (Ellie)then and then once they get a job they're like not there like it's cuz obviously they have to dedicate their entire time to their role or becoming

El (Ellie)someone else or working so it's just so much can you is it a famous actor that you did in um I can't I can't say who it is but

El (Ellie)does he have a Wikipedia page yes old he's a child he's a child actor oh he's a child and he was a child

El (Ellie)doctor and voice actor and he's um obviously an actor right now but

Brian AtlasDisney Nickelodeon Nickelodeon or Disney both both Jake Paul yeah no

El (Ellie)no um why did you forgive him after he cheated on actor cuz it wasn't um what do you call it it wasn't physical it was

El (Ellie)like it was all like through the phone if you know what I mean and she worse no trust wait what was over the phone the cheating the cheating yeah like they

El (Ellie)would f face time every night and oh good times still cheating like no trust me it was it was it was hard to get was for like maybe they were they were

Brian Atlaspracticing for RO playing yeah no like he was that was one of the fellow actresses and he was they were what's the what's the what's it called when you're like rehearsing they were

El (Ellie)rehearsing they were just rehearsing it was just rehearsal just rehearsal it was no big deal it was no big deal no big deal was she an actor too no she she's like a random person like really random

El (Ellie)I call I like to call myself a normie oh you're a normie I like I like the Normy no she was like a random weirdo oh she was a weirdo okay random weirdo you said

Brian Atlasuh when we broke it off I also started situationships with multiple people and I also have major opinions on situationships if you are in a situationship make sure to just be there for your own satisfaction but don't

Brian Atlastreat them like you would if you were in a relationship I think they need to be so separated that was your emphasis not

El (Ellie)mine yeah you say don't treat them like you would if you were in a relationship treat them how what do you mean well cuz like they they didn't cuff you do you

El (Ellie)know what I mean so why give them the benefits of you know yourself like why give them the benefits of you know having you you know I don't know cook

El (Ellie)them breakfast or like be girlfriend material or you know like dedicate time to being with them without actually without like being excl like exclusive do you know what I mean you

Brian Atlasknow what what's really interesting that's actually can you repeat that what you just said that I just said a lot which you said not like you wouldn't

Brian Atlascook for them for example yeah but you would what have sex with them yeah what's really interesting to me is how

Brian Atlaswe approach and view sex people are so prepared to share what perhaps used to be their most like the most intimate thing that you could do

Brian Atlassome with somebody you'll [ __ ] a guy but the thought of cooking him dinner that's where you draw the line like this most

Brian Atlasintimate act where you're like naked in front of each other and he's inside of you physically yeah but you draw the line like it's just interesting it is it's an

El (Ellie)interesting thing well honestly like it's so new for me like not being in a relationship like so like I typically treat situationships like I would a relationship but I'm realizing that's

Nila Shakenot working like I don't know it doesn't really work which I think is valid I think a guy who knows what he wants and is presented with what he wants like right in front front of him is going to

Nila Shakecommit to you right away rather than just string it along for a situationship but I also feel like younger men that are around our age are just not going to

Nila Shakebe that for you yeah yeah I agree is it true that between the first two one and two dates that guys know she's girlfriend material or not like if he

Brian Atlaswants to be her girlfriend I think it I mean I think it takes a lot longer to vet a girl for for relationship

Brian Atlasstatus but I mean I think we we can pretty quickly disqualify women like it's if there's like something we like there's something we can detect very early on

Brian Atlasand we're like no go like a red flag yeah like I think it's very easy to like disqualify somebody but I think to actually qualify for a relationship I think that can take a little bit longer

Tiffanywhat about for marriage how long do you think it takes guys to know he want want to marry the girl or not it depends years I think it takes like a few months

Nila Shakeit took my dad two weeks I mean yeah there's that but also like there's still year-long relationships like I said earlier that end and that don't up

Brian Atlasgetting Tiffany married gertude what's your last name you Tiffany gertude U will will you marry me no a wow she has

Brian Atlasa man no she doesn't have a man she's got a Alabama dude it's not man stop being so disrespectful being disrespectful to Brand yeah what do you mean you're not a

Brian Atlasyou're single yeah yeah that was a marriage proposal I know when you told me that you were a racist that's when I knew you were the one for

Brian Atlasme when you said everybody's a little racist true that's when I knew I thought that was valid it's true I'm being honest yeah that's when I knew though that you were the one okay just kidding

Brian Atlasum good talk Tiffany by the way Tiffany's Tiffany's a r who is the guy super chatting that a girl named Tiffany run who was that remember last show guys

Brian Atlasyou say that no somebody said in the Super Chat somebody or like with a TTS that Tiffany is a red flag wait chat no red flag no no the name Tiffany Tiffany

Tiffanyoh okay the name Tiffany it's a red flag Tiff name that's from the hot crazy Matrix girl's Nam Tiffany well yeah they're either abgs are they or are you

Tiffanyan ABG I don't think so you don't think she's an ABG oh you're okay yeah yeah yeah okay either an AGG or like a rich white girl

Nila Shakeor a black girl Tiff feel like Tiffany is a stripper name what yeah Tiffany you got Tiffany you got Diamond you got Natalia I feel like it's classic it's

Tiffanylike breakfast at Tiffany like Tiffany and Co okay yeah Tiffany Trump we should you know what we should do we should have we should hire side

Brian Atlaseyes we hire T chat what do you think about this we hire Tiffany to be Madison but on the other side of the table so you know when you come over here and you see Madson back there um spazzing out how much do you

Brian Atlaspay slave wages so no pay no no we I pay I pay slave slave wage is zero well we'll talk about it after the show we'll talk about it after the show okay okay we can talk

Brian Atlaswe'll negotiate it's all good I've been watching that documentary about Sylvester still alone on Netflix okay where where were we were we wait what's an ABG like what Mak what makes

Nila Shakean I thought it was Boba girl Asian more I thought it was Asian Boba I knew I KN I know what it stands for but like what makes an Asian woman an

Brian AtlasABG uh typically if they have dyed hair and they wear makeup and fake lashes and like they have to be a

Brian Atlashoe they have to they have to be a hoe yeah yeah I don't know I don't know search it up Google definition and it

Brian Atlasdoesn't really matter um oh we on so I think we were talking about you the the situationship relationship thing uh you said that when you broke it off you

Brian Atlasstarted situationships with multiple people and this was wait you broke it off three months ago oh we kind of talked a little bit about that how many what was the most

El (Ellie)situationships was it just the three I would just say or did you have like five on the roster back then no like I got right when I got the relationship I like got into a situationship with someone

El (Ellie)immediately yeah like within a week like it was weird I think it was like my coping were you like mentally checked out of the relationship before you broke up with

El (Ellie)him that's a good question I think I think I was ready to ready to end it like end like a few months in and I actually tried to break up with him a

El (Ellie)few times and like he didn't let me what do you mean just like he I don't know like I tried to break it off like just saying like I think we need to like go her both ways and he's like no I'll

El (Ellie)give you like the attention and like love you deserve type thing and then like never actually did it King King just kidding just kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding but yeah um okay you also

Brian Atlassaid first you wanted to talk about first dates is there anything in specific that you wanted to talk about on that I actually yeah like especially

El (Ellie)with college I feel like at least in my position a lot of guys like don't really offer like first dates they're kind of like yo you want to hang or like we

Nila Shakeshould go chill like type Vibe you know it's not very like yo let me take you out type especially in college like most people

Nila Shakein college like girls and guys typically don't really go on like First Dates it's kind of just you meet each other at like a party or something while you're out

Nila Shakeand then you just start hanging out and then it goes into something like a situationship talking stage and then it's like a relationship it's never a proper

Brian Atlaslike weird dat but do you currently consider yourself single right right yeah so my view on this though is do you

Brian Atlasthink that you are worthy of being taken out on a date what do you mean by Worthy well you consider yourself single right so that

Brian Atlasmeans you're like it would be free like like I would be open to be getting asked out or something yeah yeah yeah so my concern as a guy I don't want

Brian Atlasto because like taking a girl out that's kind of like being a gentleman that's being traditional that's being in your traditional gender roles you said earlier on in the show that you have a roster of three guys that you're the

Brian Atlasmain guy that you're seeing you you saw him this morning yeah like so you guys what hooked up last night or whatever yeah like I know for example if I were to ask you out again just met you we're

Brian Atlasnot exclusive I don't want to like go take a girl out to like some romantic date get nice dinner pay for flowers whatever

Brian Atlaswhen like let's say let's say the day of I took you out on a date you saw your situationship earlier that

El (Ellie)morning um what is that like what do you mean why why am I going to okay you said you're in the streets currently is that correct your words your words not mine right yeah I guess I

El (Ellie)would say I'm not going to be I can't be a gentlem I don't want to be a gentleman to the woman of the street to a woman from the streets wait no like I think we have different terms of streets like I

El (Ellie)use it like in a joking term type thing here's the thing sure but you said okay okay okay yeah you said you have a roster of three guys right now so you're talking to I'm not doing anything like

El (Ellie)sexual with one of them and the other one was only sexual sure but like okay can I ask you a question right yeah yeah so if I asked you on

Brian Atlasjust as a hypothetical here I'm not saying that you would date me or whatever but let's say that I asked you out on a date and then we went on a date and it was good and then the guy who

Brian Atlasyou're currently sleeping with like we went on the date we said goodbye at 9:00 p.m. I gave you we hugged each other boom and then like is it possible that

Brian Atlasyou could end up at your [ __ ] buddy's house after our date no it's not it's impossible I wouldn't say impossible he texts you he's like

Nila Shakewhat's up let me dick appointment let's go I don't I feel like people that are talking to other or people that have a roster I guess or that are talking to

Brian Atlasother people are that's kind of expected in college thing like I no it's it it is the the dating landscape certainly in

Brian Atlascollege and I would argue even Beyond College that's how people move but like I don't think you can be like and there's still going to be simps there's still going to be guys that are like

Brian Atlasdon't know that you're seeing other guy that a lot of the guys are naive and they'll take a girl out on a date not knowing that she's got like three [ __ ] buddies but like I know the dating

Brian Atlaslandscape and I don't feel particularly inclined to take a girl out on a date when she's [ __ ] other dudes like I don't even want to date that chick I

Brian Atlaswant I don't want to talk to her cuz for me I want a girl who's properly single from the jump like if you got another guy in the picture you can have him like

El (Ellie)I don't want to deal with a girl that is seeing other dudes so well to like just to say like I would only see like one I

El (Ellie)can really only see like one person at a time but since I'm not like you know there's there's no momentum of it moving forward I am looking

Brian Atlasat other people if you know what I mean sure I I guess for me like for me to fall into my traditional gender rules of like wanting to take a girl out or

Brian Atlaswhatever I would want from the jump your undivided romantic and sexual attention if either one of those is divided if

Brian Atlasyou're sleeping with another guy and talking to me I don't want you if you're like romantically talking to other men I don't want you um my view is once I come into your

El (Ellie)life I want like it's a rap it has to be a rap on all the other dudes no I completely agree like I'm saying like so like let's say you have like a roster or

El (Ellie)like a situationship you go on a date with this guy it it's it's a match you you had the best time I would probably stop talking to those other guys

El (Ellie)probably probably if if that person that I went on a date with was someone that I saw potential with I would definitely scratch the situationship and go with

El (Ellie)that person CU like I am a loyal person like I'm I'm not like oh I'm gonna see a bunch of like I'm loyal during the talking stage if you know what I mean like are you but you're in the talking

El (Ellie)stage with you're in the talking stage with three guys right now no one one is scratched celibacy is scratched celibate and celibate is

El (Ellie)scratched um the main guy right now is the only guy I'm talking to and the other guy the other one is just like flirty banter could be potential that's

Brian Atlaswhat I'm saying could okay that's what I'm saying you know what I mean it's not consider that loyal H I wouldn't really consider that loyal I mean the thing is is like cuz you're there's one guy you're you're hooking up with one guy

Brian Atlasand then you're like talking to another guy I know that you said that like the guy who you're currently hooking up with you're like yeah I'm probably going to dump him or whatever said he doesn't want a relationship so but do you want a relationship what do you want cuz some

El (Ellie)girls are cool I mean maybe casual thing after being in like an almost fouryear relationship I don't think I am looking necessarily for a

El (Ellie)relationship right now oh but if someone came along that I like saw potential in or something I would most definitely you down I do you want to get

El (Ellie)married I would most definitely like want to you know pursue K Chad I'm kidding you'd pursue it yeah it just depends on the person if like if you meet someone and you guys Vibe it's a

Brian AtlasMTH sure you know what I mean yeah so I just haven't met that person yeah and look my whole thing is like with the dating landscape as it is I don't feel

Brian Atlasparticularly inclined to like if I can tell like if I get a sense that the girl is all for me then I'm

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