Brian KICKS OUT Rude Girl! She STABBED Her Blind Date For REVENGE?! | Dating Talk #115

Date: 2023-11-06

Duration: 5h 57m

Guests

Brian Atlas

WWifeu Delila (DT115)>

TTiffany (DT115)>

MMadison (DT115)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_02Nila Shake(guest)

SPEAKER_03Wifeu Delila(guest)

SPEAKER_04Noel(guest)

SPEAKER_05El (Ellie)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_13Naa(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrian confronts Delilah early in show about being on her Tamagotchi: "you explicitly told you before the podcast not to be on your phone." Sets up later ejection.

“when we explicitly told you before the podcast not to be on your phone... it's why we explicitly told you before the show to not be on your phone”

Key MomentBrian kicks out Delilah: confirms she messaged the show first, calls her rude and entitled, and tells her to get out.

“you're entitled you're rude you have TikTok brain you cannot stay focused... it's incredibly rude to say that you're bored... I'm going to ask you to leave okay so get up get the f out”

OtherDelilah kicked off: Brian tells her to leave after she calls the show boring and is repeatedly rude. She exits with "good luck on your dead ass podcast."

“yeah go ahead Madison good luck on your dead ass podcast bro bro you got no followers you're a clown”

OtherNaa reveals she stabbed her blind date twice in the neck with a pink knife during a manic episode in Las Vegas. Charged with attempted murder, received probation. Believed she was in a movie the entire time including during police interrogation (thought she was playing Carrie from Homeland).

“I had a blinding situation in March of last year I was dealing with a lot of mental health issues... I was charged with attempt of murder... my case is closed now”

QuoteNaa explains she thought she was filming a movie scene the entire time — from the hotel to the police interrogation (Homeland) to jail (Orange Is the New Black).

“I thought I was playing Carrie from Homeland and this is some kind of spy movie I'm doing... whenever I was in custody I thought the movie scene just continued in jail and we're shooting Orange Is the New Black”

QuoteNaa reveals she was asked by police to explain the stabbing, attributed it to the US killing an Iranian general (said in a manic state); Homeland Security investigated and found no terrorism links.

“I really thought I was playing a role in a movie... I had a manic episode... what I was saying is gibberish”

ControversyNaa disputes that her light sentence was due to gender privilege; Brian argues the disparity in sentencing between men and women is 8x greater than the racial disparity, pointing to a gynocentric justice system.

“I stand my firm belief that it could have been any gender... men as compared to women get 63% higher prison sentences”

QuoteBrian argues if genders were reversed and a man had stabbed a woman on a blind date, he would be in prison for a very long time — pointing to gynocentric justice system.

“if you had been a man... if everything about your case was the same but it had been a man doing it he'd be in prison for a very very long time”

QuoteBrian reads 1950s home economics article "Tips to Look After Your Husband" and asks panel to react.

“have dinner ready plan ahead even the night before... prepare yourself take 15 minutes to rest... be a little gay and a little more interesting”

QuoteNoel shares that her parents met at JC Penney, father served 2-year LDS mission, mother waited, they dated 2 weeks, got engaged, mother stayed home raising 7 kids for 15-20 years — and she has never once seen her parents argue.

“my dad and my mother met when they were 19-20... my dad went on to serve his mission in Uruguay for 2 years and my mother waited for him... they dated for 2 weeks got engaged... I've never once seen my parents argue”

QuoteBrian's dating stance: women's financial success is largely irrelevant to men's attraction because women don't share resources with men the way men do — "your money is your money, our money is our money."

“in a marriage or in a relationship the man's money is your money is our money but your money is still your money in a relationship”

OtherNaa reveals she went on 10 dates in one day while working for a restaurant startup earning commission per diner brought in.

“I ended up going on 10 dates in one day... breakfast a brunch three... for the business essentially”

OtherNaa's Valentine's Day story: non-exclusive boyfriend couldn't perform, she found and hooked up with a new Tinder match the same night by 10pm.

“my boyfriend couldn't get it up on Valentine's Day so I canceled the date and went home and found another guy on Tinder”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship status round

Brian introduces panel of 7 guests plus co-host Kiki. Each guest states name, age, occupation, and relationship status. Notable: Delilah (OnlyFans) immediately on Tamagotchi, warned by Brian. El in fresh post-breakup situationship seen main guy same morning. Naa is single. Nila in exclusive relationship with NDA agreement. Tiffany single at UCSB. Noel single. Madison in relationship.

Delilah kicked off the show

After Delilah calls the show boring and plays with her Tamagotchi on air, Brian confronts her. She claims she was contacted by the show; Brian pulls up Instagram DMs showing she messaged them first (August 22nd). After further rudeness, Brian tells her to leave. She exits saying "good luck on your dead ass podcast." Brian confirms he intended to kick her from the start.

Naa: blind date stabbing story

Naa tells story of stabbing her blind date in Las Vegas, March prior year. Was off antipsychotic medication, in manic state; believed she was acting in a movie (Homeland spy role during interrogation, Orange Is the New Black in jail). Stabbed blind date twice in the neck with pink knife during sex at hotel. Charged with attempted murder, pled to 2 counts false imprisonment; received probation. Homeland Security investigated, found no terrorism links. Wrote and published autobiography about the experience. Has book signing at Barnes & Noble. Donates proceeds to National Mental Health Alliance. Discussion of gender disparity in sentencing.

Brian's partner preferences

Brian describes his ideal partner preferences: no plastic surgery (no BBL, fake breasts, lip filler), preference for natural appearance, no OnlyFans, prefers girl who is fully committed from the start. Dislikes when a woman is seeing other men while he pursues her. Mentions his preference for large labia. Discusses female virginity and pair bonding.

Gender roles and the 1950s housewife article

Brian reads a 1950s home economics article on how to look after your husband. Panel goes around: Madison, Noel, and Nila mostly agree; Ellie partially agrees (only if woman not working); Naa thinks it depends on the partnership; Tiffany considers it outdated context but some parts valid. Extended debate on traditional gender roles, women staying home vs working, masculinity, and feminity.

Men's dating preferences: money, career, and attraction

Discussion of whether women's career success and income make them more attractive to men. Brian argues men don't care about women's earnings because women don't share resources the way men do. Female doctor vs male doctor dating patterns. Ellie's mother as breadwinner discussed. Grid One Motorsports donation sparks debate about boss babes vs availability.

Dating landscape: promiscuity, body count, and pair bonding

Brian's extended monologue and panel discussion on why men care about body count: STD risk, infidelity probability, pair bonding degradation, paternity certainty, evolutionary psychology. Madison defends her stance on low body count for high-value men. Ellie pushes back — argues reformed promiscuous women deserve love. Brian explains alpha widow concept.

Dating etiquette: first dates, flowers, situationships

Discussion of college dating culture: no proper first dates, mostly parties then situationships. Brian argues bringing flowers is not rewarded in modern dating landscape — women are put off by it if not already interested. Madison shares her boyfriend bought her flowers third day and told her he loved her early, which she loved. Brian says he won't bring flowers for promiscuous women. Debate on whether Ellie's situationship roster is fair.

Self-rating round (looks 1-10)

Naa rates herself 6-7 (was a 10 a few years ago, medication affects body). Noel: 7-8. Madison: 9. Ellie: 6 (6.5 on a good day). Tiffany: 8. Chat asked to rate Tiffany: mostly 4-6. Brian says he and Tiffany are a "looks match." Discussion of whether chat ratings are accurate or dominated by incels.

Height preferences round

Each guest states height and minimum/preferred male height. Nila (5'2"): minimum 6'4" (current boyfriend). Naa (5'5"): minimum 5'9". Ellie (5'4"): minimum 5'10"-5'11". Tiffany (5'5"): preferred 6'1"-6'2", minimum 5'8". Madison (5'2"): preferred 5'10"+. Brian discusses height preferences as looks-based and double standard compared to weight preferences.

Naa: 10 dates in one day and Valentine's Day stories

Naa reveals she went on 10 dates in one day while working for a restaurant startup (commission for bringing in diners). One restaurant hosted two overlapping dinner dates; she tipped bartender to stall first date. Valentine's Day stories: first year — non-exclusive boyfriend couldn't perform sexually, she found a new Tinder date same night. Second year — online-only relationship with man in California; met in person and he was cold; ended up hooking up with his friend instead.

Clubbing, relationships, and male friends debate

Extended debate: Brian argues committed men shouldn't allow girlfriends to go to bars/clubs (temptation, opportunity, lowered inhibitions). Ellie pushes back on trust and boundaries. Madison agrees with Brian on clubs. Ellie had boundary of not clubbing in last relationship. Brian challenges whether Ellie's male DJ friends are just friends (argues most would sleep with her if given opportunity). Advice to men: don't commit to women who go to clubs.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasthe podcast not to be on your phone not to be texting sorry do you think that's the appropriate time to be doing that my bad what do you mean you're bad my bad you do you did you

Brian Atlasforget the pre-show instructions that Nick went over about not being on your phone it's not my phone it's not on your phone it's not a phone

Brian Atlasdoes that diminish the degree to which it would be disrespectful to be doing that in the midst of a conversation okay here's your phone looking at your phone versus looking at your tomagotchi

Brian Atlasare you just going to take no accountability or are you just going to sit there like a dork I said my bad okay do you do you realize though if if we were having a conversation and you were on your tamagachi while I was talking to you

Brian Atlasthat would be very disrespectful you weren't talking to me I'm I'm in the middle of doing the podcast if anybody here at the table is talking about anything and you're on

Brian Atlasyour phone that would be rude it's why we explicitly told you before the show to not be on your phone now if you want to do some loophole [ __ ] about oh it's not a phone it's a tamagachi in

Brian Atlaspractice it's this exact same principle okay so can you do me a favor and put your Tamagotchi somewhere else so I can continue on with the show thank you without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so

Nila Shakeplease tell us your name age and occupation go ahead hello I am Nila Shake I'm 19 years old and I run a professional marketing agency hi my name is NAA I'm 23 and I'm

El (Ellie)an author and a singer I'm wifeu Delila I'm 19 and I'm an only fans Creator I'm El swing I'm 19 and I go to

TiffanySB CC Community College I'm Tiffany I go to UCSB I'm majoring in political science and minoring in philosophy age

Nila Shake18 I'm Noel I'm 23 and I'm a scientific analyst my name is Madison I'm 18 I'm a full-time student at s AB Bara City College studying business and I work full-time I work here I'm a host at a

Brian Atlasbar and I babysit okay um going around the table once more please tell us your current uh relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship

Brian AtlasFriends with Benefits relationship married polycule sex cult Harum um if you're single how long have you been in have you been single what's your longest relationship go ahead I am in a

Naarelationship and it's been about a year now okay is that that's your longest relationship you've been in or that's my only relationship only relationship okay cool go ahead um I'm currently single

NaaI've had situationship in the past but um given my background it is kind of hard to be dating so okay we we'll get into that a little bit later on in the show what about you uh or sorry so

Brian Atlasyou're single yeah currently yeah okay longest relationship um I wouldn't counted as a relationship because what's what's like the longest

Brian Atlasperiod of time you've seen somebody a year one year okay by the way what just because I feel extra uh

Naaconfrontational today you were going to come with a friend what happened there um yeah like we confirmed last night and I thought it would be a really cool podcast so kind of disappointed she

Brian Atlasdidn't show up but hey I'm here you are here she uh and we had confirmed with her too oh okay she let me see we sent

Brian Atlasher all the show info I yesterday I sent a reminder to everybody see you tomorrow at 4 p.m. for the podcast she responded seea at 4:15 p.m. when she's supposed to

Brian Atlasbe here at 400 p.m. she I send her asking her ETA and she says I'm running too late had to get my car battery checked yeah and she told me she had an

Brian Atlasappointment so she told us too different but it's just if if you know you have to be somewhere at 400 p.m. 4:15 and it's not your fault it's your friend's fault

Brian Atlas4:15 you typically you try to courtesy and etiquette would dictate you try to let somebody know in advance that you can't make it right definitely for the show and

Brian Atlasespecially for me as well just because IED her and like wanted her to be on the show with me but because if she she knew she was running late as of probably even before 400 p.m. if you know you're going to be late even like and this kind of

Brian Atlasrelates to dating and relationships if you're going on the first date with somebody and you know you're running late at 3:50 you're supposed to be there at 4: you should say hey sorry I'm

Wifeu Delilarunning late da d da but in any case uh yeah um rude on her behalf go ahead um I'm in a relationship how long have you

El (Ellie)been in the relationship 6 months is that your longest relationship mhm okay what about you I'm single and

El (Ellie)I'm fresh out of a three and 1 half year relationship yeah how fresh when how new is the I would say three months ago we broke up but it was definitely

El (Ellie)interesting like dating someone for that long yeah so it's like uh was it a high school relationship he was cuz you're 19 right so yeah yeah I mean he was in

El (Ellie)college cuz he was an actor so he graduated the audio is muted

El (Ellie)hello okay but yeah he he's an actor so he was out of school really early okay uh so 3 month

El (Ellie)freshly new breakup 3 months ago 3.5 year relationship uh why did it end I feel like I feel like I needed to be like an individual I don't know I

El (Ellie)feel like that's hard when you're consistently with someone for so long I feel like your identity is kind of clash you know what I'm saying yeah is it long

El (Ellie)distance it it wasn't long distance until I moved up here last year and then it became long distance for that period but I mainly went down to like La every

Brian Atlasweekend to see him pretty much he never came up here for so it's 3.5e relationship for how long of that relationship was it a longdistance relationship a year yeah just a year and

Brian Atlasdo you think that's what precipitated the breakup was that it uh became long distance that that in a number of reasons okay yeah did he cheat on you

Brian Atlasand the beginning in the beginning not during the long distance phase okay yeah that yeah t t so you've been single for 3 months any rebounds any other love

El (Ellie)interests there was I mean there was an immediate rebound right after like immediate and then and then I I don't know I I had only been with him my

El (Ellie)entire like childhood pretty much so I feel like the hookup culture that I was like the streets actually you know the streets the streets were not meant for

Brian Atlasme I feel like but I'm currently in them so I'm trying to get out of the streets you're not made for the streets I'm not made for the streets but you attempted to live in the streets yeah I was like I

El (Ellie)was you know chilling in there for a while and I was like n it's I'm I'm trying to get cuffed Before Christmas like you're trying to get cuffed before before Christmas I need my Christmas

El (Ellie)gifts any prospects or there is a prospect but I it's not not good it's not a good prospect it's not good it's not it's not what do you mean are you currently seeing him no

Brian Atlasit's definitely like a situationship but like it's not shipping if you know what I mean it's a situation ship but it's not shipping no you don't ship it no

El (Ellie)does he ship it neither of you ship it no it's like it's weird it's weird we we it's we're both very in different places

El (Ellie)I I would say I'm way more mature and like I'm very relation ship oriented but this this man is not he's very not so

El (Ellie)we'll just see I I I need to get on other prospects you need to get on but are you when's the last time you saw this guy this

El (Ellie)morning what you think he's watching the podcast no I no I would not tell him that I was on how long have you been seeing this guy I would say

Brian Atlaslike a month a month or two or two or three yeah like two months or something cuz you said the 3.5 year relationship ended 3 months ago so 2 months ago is it

El (Ellie)pretty H I would say like a month and a half it's pretty quick turnaround right after yeah okay well I usually have like a thre Monon intermission before I get intermission okay yeah no that's that's

El (Ellie)a good term yeah I have a little intermission period before like you know wanting to be with someone else but I'm like you know I feel like I need to be single until I'm like 25 until you're 25

El (Ellie)well you're 19 now that's six six years or so no I'm lying I definitely like 21 oh 21 yeah that's or before Christmas or before Christmas was that cuffing season

Brian Atlasyeah okay so question the guy who you're currently talking to had you met him while you were still dating your boyfriend no no no not not saying you did anything

El (Ellie)romantic with him but did you were you aware of him did you know him no while you were still in the relationship okay no how did you meet him on Tinder uh dating app no just like out

Brian Atlaslike just out like in I yeah yeah Beach you don't remember out you're blacked out um got your number

El (Ellie)blacked out who's this yeah I mean I think it's cuz we like kind of meshed in the same friend group type thing so M

Brian Atlasfriends yeah okay got it uh okay so but that's a WAP that's done dunzo even you saw him today considering that I saw him this morning it is not dunzo but like I

El (Ellie)need to be dunzo you need to be dunzo I need to you want it to be dunzo what's stopping you what's stopping me from being dunzo yeah I I don't know I just it's nice

El (Ellie)having one consistent person to be with if you know what I mean so Comfort yeah okay I would say that is he is he seeing other

Brian Atlaswomen not that I know is it exclusive no not exclusive it's not are you seeing other guys like do you have a roster you know a lot of people we have the roster you both have a roster so it's basically

Brian Atlaslike an open relationship yeah pretty much so you're not single no I'm fully single is this confusing no it makes

El (Ellie)should makes sense to me um no I feel like this makes sense but like sh maybe uh okay you got a roster what is there anybody else on the roster yeah there's what are we talking here I

El (Ellie)would just say there's like you got a team no I would just say there's like two other two other like prospects prospects okay two other so two so three

El (Ellie)people on the roster yeah okay so you have a a main piece and two side [ __ ] the side [ __ ] just this oh sorry yeah the side piece actually just told me he

El (Ellie)was celibate um what yeah and he was yeah so now he's celibate so I think have you hooked up with him already though yeah

El (Ellie)so that was kind of awkward did you turned him celibate that's what happened no like he fully told me afterwards that he was read a book and now he's turning celibate like right after which book did he read I don't know I should asked

El (Ellie)could you ask him I'm very was it I have no Bible or something imagine I don't think so I have he read the book and now he's celibate yeah he read a book and he's like a really changed my perspective on life like I think I need

Brian Atlasto be celibate and I was like okay question how soon okay so what was the period of time that elapsed from the last time you hooked up

Brian Atlaswith him and his period of celibacy like was it the day after you hooked up no it was like when we were putting on our clothes wait huh like it was like huh it

Brian Atlaswas no it was like literally seconds later like okay hold on you have sex yes you have sex and then he immediately after sex within like 5 minutes yes says

El (Ellie)he's like oh I read a book by the way and I just like I'm not going to drink or have sex anymore have sex anymore have when was this uh like a week ago no no no no it

Brian Atlaswas like a month ago oh a month ago he's not really have you hung out with him since no oh so he's off the roster then I think he is is he off the roster I would say he's off the roster if his celibacy was broken could he come back

Brian Atlason the roster so you like him no you don't like him I like him for certain reasons what are the certain reasons that you like him um just for funds for when you say funs you mean sex yeah just

Brian Atlasfor funds but it's unfortunate because he sell a bit that's kind of unfortunate for you that's why he's going to be off the Rost he's off the yeah did did he still want to like kick it with you

El (Ellie)platonically friend I I mean that was the plan but we ran into each other at Goodwill like two weeks ago and he was

El (Ellie)like super weird with me so I was like maybe not friends Oren just so what you don't know the book get the I should have honestly I should have asked wait

Nila ShakeMadison do you have a question for her no I was just saying like he really just had to get the last [ __ ] before told you like didn't you know that before he wanted to [ __ ] you I don't know but like

El (Ellie)that day he had done all the things that he said he was not going to do because of this book and told me directly after it was it was interesting I've never experienc anything like that it

Brian Atlaswas so weird we need to know what the book is I maybe do do you have your phone on you right here I do could you just ask him about the book I think you

Brian Atlasknow maybe the girls can weigh in on this sure I think maybe he was over it that's kind of a good way to get right like I'm celibate I don't want to

El (Ellie)sex anymore that's a good way to get out of a right I mean like I would just I would just rather like just not speak again do you know what I mean little ghost like a ghost I like ghosting is so

El (Ellie)valid like if is it it is like if you don't if you don't like someone anymore like you you don't need an explanation I don't need an explanation of why you don't like me like I just what if he was

Brian Atlastesting you to see if you would stay I doubt that no well going around the table really quick on this or actually hold on let I want to get the relationship status out of the way so

Brian AtlasI'll come back to the ghosting is it valid I'll ask the table that um is it valid um so okay that there's so you got two on the roster basically you had

Brian Atlasthree but there's two you but I think the point was were you were seeing three guys at the same time is that no I can't see of them no but you I

Brian Atlaswas okay okay cuz you said I wait hold on you said the last time you saw the guy was a month ago You' been seeing the main piece for 2 months yeah so you were seeing them at the same time and then

Kikithere's another one who we haven't heard about mhm but hold on grid One Motorsports donated $100 dude took post nut Clarity to a

Kikiwhole new level realized she is a perah and moved on as we should do you have a response to grid One

El (Ellie)Motorsports I don't even know that means to theh so anyways um wait so I could never see I sexually I can

El (Ellie)only see one person at a time so when I when I unsexual when when celibacy when celibacy got cut off cacy man when celab man got cut off I was sexual with main

Brian Atlaspiece main piece current main piece yeah I cannot do like the multiple were you talking to them at the same time though maybe not sleeping with them but talking with I was only talking M piece only

El (Ellie)main piece the other guy the other guy was just a hookup guy it wasn't like a relationship like type thing when I say talking I like I mean

Brian Atlasyou while you were hooking up with celibacy man book man yeah were you you were talking to main piece but

Brian Atlasnot having sex with him yes you're talking to him yes did he okay okay were you make wait were you like making him wait no main piece no

El (Ellie)it's just we were getting to know each other it just didn't happen no yeah we were just getting to know each other and like I genuinely yeah he didn't he didn't go for it like did you ever be like no no no I want to wait no oh but

El (Ellie)we just didn't end up doing that it just never okay okay sure no we just like it yeah no yeah uh what about the third piece

El (Ellie)third piece is like um what do you call it he's like coming up he's an upcomer he's like he's like he's like okay so main piece is going to like die

El (Ellie)down maybe and then this other guy is definitely going to like be in the up up and coming race probably cuz he's more

El (Ellie)realistic in terms of like he has you know a good job comes from a good family could get me some nice gifts before

Nila ShakeChristmas vibes I don't know so he's like better husband material yeah but I'm I like sounds like

Nila Shakebetter S material to be honest yeah yeah you want someone to s for you yeah you I feel like when guys s for me I find it really unattractive for some reason I

Nila Shakefind it so attractive you do I feel like after they get to know me but if they s for me in the beginning I think it's so unattractive like it's just cuz it's like a desperate look you know what I mean that's just is really unattractive

Nila Shakebut once you get to know them once you're in a relationship and they s for you buy you gifts that I think that's really attractive well I think they're sing in like a feminine way and then there's like sing in a masculine way what is sing in a masculine way like

Nila Shakepursuing you like asking you on dates like being bold I mean I think that's interest I think there's like a difference between sing and interest I

Brian Atlasso true just asking you is just interest H okay um so there's main piece that's dying down this third guy he's on

El (Ellie)the The Rise but you you haven't hooked up with him yet no cuz I'm focusing on main piece I can't do it all I can't do it all at the same time I'm really busy I don't have

Brian Atlastime to juggle like all those okay sure okay well we'll come back to the ghosting thing um what about you I'm single SL talking stage cuz okay you've

Brian Atlasbeen you were on the show like 6 weeks ago or something it was like end of September cuz you you go to UCSB it was

Brian Atlasit's your freshman first first week here um UCSB number one party school in the US how in the six week period since your

Brian Atlaslast time on the show have you seen some [ __ ] have you been in the trenches in the Mean Streets of Santa Barbara what have you

Brian Atlasseen what have I seen just a party scene what do you mean that was under that was very underwhelming um like okay maybe you hear you've heard some things

Brian Atlasfrom your girlfriends you haven't have you dated any guys dat dated no no no guys what about guys like coming trying to talk to you at parties hit on you at

Brian Atlasparties I shut them all down you shut them all down yeah do you uh UCSB again very big party scene how how often do you go out to party would you say every

Tiffanyweekend like Thursday Friday Saturday no or just Friday Saturday mostly for me just Fridays but my roommates go out like Thursday Friday sometimes you do

Brian Atlasboth days or just sometimes both okay do you party you go to sbcc correct okay do you party at all we come up here every

Brian Atlasweekend do you live in IV or I live in downtown yeah okay got it um you come like do you go out Friday Saturday or maybe just once a week we we do like

El (Ellie)Thursday Friday Saturday here in IV yeah okay but Thursdays we stay local and then Friday Saturday Saturday we come up here like you party somewhere downtown

Brian Atlasokay I see got it so what you seeing you reject all the dudes that hit on you yeah why just I don't like them are none of them good looking or maybe they're

Tiffanygood-looking they're really good looking they're really good looking yeah they are good-looking guys everywhere if you go to DP okay but but what um I don't like guys who party you

Tiffanyhold on you you party you [ __ ] hypocrite you're kind of you're out there too so it's like you're out there I don't really like

Tiffanypartying too much I just follow my roommates how many guys have approached you since you've like been here in the night life maybe like four or five only

Nila Shakefour or five yeah jeez is four or five is I feel like a lot yeah she's been out partying every weekend for 6 weeks that should be in a

Brian Atlasnight no but they all genuinely try to talk should be in the night huh like they all genu maybe young guys just don't approach anymore probably because of like dating apps and [ __ ] but um okay

Brian Atlasso you've rejected the four to five guys who've approached you that's it yeah it's got to be more than that no I guess young guys don't approach anymore okay um how'd you meet this new

Tiffanyguy he replied to one of my stories back in March cuz he found me through Tik Tok oh so he slid into the DMS on IG

Brian Atlasyeah okay are you guys like dating or not really you're single yeah I've never met him before Oh Oh I thought he like went to school here no he goes to school

Nila Shakein um Alabama Alabama yeah so you just been like texting him yeah what' he say when he slid into your DMs just it's about like Kanye and political

Tiffanystuff but I think he was in a relationship when he did you think what I think he was in a relationship when when he did that yeah how do you how do you know

Tiffanythat I just I think so I don't know I'm not sure you didn't do the hate girly text what's that the hate girly like your boyfriend is hitting on me you

Tiffanynever heard of that no I never thought of him like that until like a month ago yeah did you hit him up again or did he text

Tiffanyyou what do you mean like since March yeah since March we kept talking once in a while kept talking like no no no no not in that way like did you guys talk on

Brian Atlasthe phone um I think we did like a few times you think you did a few times yeah okay so are you like interested in in dating this guy or are you on the fence yeah

Brian AtlasI'm like like super down you're super down yeah even though he lives in Alabama he's flying out for how long like 4 days staying where he's got the

Brian Atlashotel BNB and then what fly back so you have all the you said there's a lot of attractive guys around

Tiffanybut so why he's interesting he teaches me a lot of things like what I can't say the [ __ ] yeah you're gonna censor

Brian Atlasme like very like fascist ideas I would say F fascist IDE um is he like a is he a white supremacist when we no he's a white

Nila Shakenationalist he likes Nick Fontes okay are you guys like both only talking to each other I yes you think yeah yeah

Brian Atlasokay um what's your ethnicity just checking Korean oh and you're dating

Brian Atlasa want not dating oh but you want so you're attracted to him because of his racist no he's not racist oh so so

Brian Atlassorry you said he's a fascist what did you say white nationalist don't white nationalists want to deport I I could I don't know I

Tiffanydon't know the details don't they want America to be a 100% white country like they don't want immigration they don't want well I don't know if he agrees with

Nila Shakeevery single like white nationalist idea does he consider himself to be white nationalist what the [ __ ] what ideas that are white nationalists that he

Nila Shakeagrees with should I Google I I don't know enough about topic you're you're going toor me uh let's see um um Tiffany's type is white

Brian Atlasnationalist so oh my God am I I don't know if this is does he he's really smart is he a proponent of a white

Brian Atlasethnostate I don't know if we should Alabama because you're Asian yeah I don't know how that you know what I

Tiffanymean do you know what I mean like how does that work I don't know okay um I think he just doesn't like illegal

Brian Atlasimmigrants okay yeah all right you know how to pick a a doesn't have to be

Brian Atlaslegal so does he I'm just confused by the whole thing um so he's coming to see you for four days are you guys gonna cuz you you from you've never had a boyfriend before if I

Brian Atlasrecall right mhm never had a boyfriend never even if I recall you never had anything with a guy MH no hookup never hooked up with a guy no never kissed a guy no has

Brian Atlasthat changed no come on there's a guy you made out with a guy on part I'm not like that I'm not are you going to make out with Mr white

Tiffanynationalist why are you so rude how's that rude I'm just curious that's how you described it you you probably are yeah

Nila Shakechat what do you think I'm curious what chat thinks about this um uh wait so the last time you were on the show you weren't talking to him

Nila Shakeromantically it just started yeah it had just started yeah what what like made it start I guess like were you guys both

Brian Atlasjust like oh I think I'm Into You um hey decoy voices or decoy voic is in the chat yo what's up man we're going to get him on the show sometime by the way flan

Brian Atlaslife thank for the 10 gifted memberships man appreciate it go ahead he's just really smart and he's a good speaker are you wait is it Nick

Brian Atlasfentz no what the [ __ ] no you don't want to you wouldn't take Nick no he's very he's a white nationalist he's really

Brian Atlaswell spoken he's ugly wow um that's rude he's a he's a he's not a bad he's a goodl looking guy Jesus Christ I'm going to get canceled for

Kikithis conversation donated $17 Brian we got the white Tupac with hair abandoned on her left Slash from GNR check it out what is he talking

Brian Atlasabout have no idea which one's a white Tupac which oh this is slash that's Slash from G&R did you play guitar mm rip okay and you're white

Brian AtlasTupac for I don't know how I am today cuz of the headband maybe probably just looking at your is it is that a wuang oh no I thought that was wuang no that's like the same font I

El (Ellie)think as the wuang clan okay anyways that'd be pretty crazy that'd be dope that would be so controver that be super dope okay so are you trolling no you're [ __ ]

Tiffanytrolling no I'm not you're for sure trolling no I'm not I swear to God why how girl all right

Brian Atlasum I'm just kind of confused by the whole what's

Brian Atlasconfusing like from a purely like okay there's plenty of men in Santa Barbara so it's like I like very specific people really

Tiffanyspecific people yeah such as racist he's not racist also I think everyone is a little racist I agree sometimes people have to

Tiffanybe honest and say I'm racist tell us who you're racist against who are you racist who are you racist against um so me and the guy his name is

TiffanyBrent oh we were talking about this and if you're not attracted to certain races that's like

Tiffany100% connected to racism no it's not yes it isely stereotypes no wait I'm conf so are you trying to say that I'm hold on you you

Brian Atlasdidn't really answer my question but what question I my question okay so I I asked you how are you racist which race are you racist against you said you're a little bit racist right you said

Tiffanyeveryone's a little racist how are you racist well well the definition of racism is judging based on skin color right I

Tiffanythink everyone does that to like certain extent in in how how does that manifest for you like just out on the streets when I see a person I'm just what race

Tiffanyof person like so like a few weeks ago I was stranded in the middle of a freeway and these two white guys like pulled over to give me a ride if they were

Brian Atlasblack I probably wouldn't have gotten in that might be a little racist that's valid I if I was a if I was a chick I don't know if I would get in I don't

Brian Atlascare what race it is I don't think I'm getting in the car with any two Rand hold on your car broke down on the highway no I what's the story I got off

Tiffanyon the wrong stop wait what what so I was supposed to get off um in the second roundabout in UCSB but I didn't and then the bus was

Tiffanygoing to uh downtown SB so I was like panicking and then I just pulled the stop request thing and then I got the the string like stop

Nila Shakerequest so they dropped you off on the side of the highway yeah side of the highway yeah why didn't you just go to downtown s that probably would have been a little safer because I had to be

Nila Shakesomewhere okay yeah what's so funny we just have funny stories I don't know this [ __ ] does

Brian AtlasSt um so you got a ride from the two white people yeah they go to sbcc holy [ __ ] yeah that's probably a little racist um um definitely what what do you think about every girl would have done the

Nila Shakesame thing I mean unless they're super it's valid right but not to like that race but I am racist in certain ways what is going on with this [ __ ] panel holy

Nila Shake[ __ ] but the thing is a lot of people lie about it you are right like M you're actually one of the first people that's just straight up about it yeah we're giving racism a blanket definition what

Brian Atlaswhat do you think of white people what do you mean like just what do you think of white

Tiffanypeople like what per you like them do you what the [ __ ] yeah I like them it depends though cuz there's a lot of work white people too okay I see I see what

Nila Shakeyou're saying all right okay she's honest all right you can't falter for that um I don't think it's racist to not be attracted to a certain like no I don't think that's racist I don't I don't

Brian Atlasthink that's racist that's just a preference yeah you can't you know if you're attracted to you know yeah yeah you know like for example

TiffanyMadison over here is deeply racist she doesn't date Asian people that's Madison actually kind of that is racist it is racist why would it be racist well being racist isn't a bad

Nila Shakething like don't take it as like an insult I'm not taking it as an insult I'm just asking why I'm just asking why it would be racist to not date someone in your own why why do you not date

Nila ShakeAsian guys cuz I have a preference for others but why though I don't know I'm just not attracted to them it's like me saying I do not like short guys it's the same thing as me saying I don't like

Nila ShakeAsian no but it's if it's race it's different because just like like the white guys and the black guys you wouldn't have gotten in if they were black guys it's the same exact thing I don't let me let me just come in really quick oh actually go ahead make your

Brian Atlaspoint then I'll hold no never mind you can uh the views the the the views expressed by the the panelists on the podcast do not

Brian Atlasnecessarily reflect the views of the host or the podcast or the YouTube channel uh yeah okay

Brian Atlasit's yeah all right um disavow disavow disavow disavow moving on moving

Noelon so okay we went over your okay what about you um I'm recently single and the longest relationship I was in was for 3 years can you speak up a little bit uh I'm recently single and the longest

Brian Atlasrelationship I was in was for 3 years how recently single I broke up with him Friday on Friday okay uh so so Saturday

Brian Atlastwo days ago uh and was this your longest relationship no so I was seeing this guy from August up until Friday what

Noelhappened um I caught him on hinge yeah CAU him on hinge yes and it was at the point like I was seeing his family and everything like met the

Noelfamily been going to his house and stuff so good times yeah did he ever like physically cheat on you long I I don't think he actually slept with

Noelanyone cuz he worked three jobs he really didn't have time um but he was definitely on hinge matching with people who matched with some of my friends got the screenshots and then I was just so

Brian Atlasyou started dating him in August correct August September October three months together uh well how late when did you start dating in August late August mid August towards the end of August yeah so two

Brian Atlasmonths you were together you were when you say you started dating like you met him in late August yes did you guys have a conversation about exclusivity actually the first date first date yeah

NoelI wow when I meet guys I tell them the first date hey look I'm only interested in marriage and having children so if that's not something you want don't bother wasting your time with me and he

Noelwas also on the same page uh he's Catholic uh he's also religious he wants that stuff sure so like we came to an agreement we had an understanding like hey we're just going to see each other

Noeland and I wasn't seeing anybody but okay yeah are you are you waiting until marriage no so that ship has already sailed I can't really go back on that

Brian Atlasbut I would have done it differently if I could okay were were you guys waiting no no okay all right uh damn that's

Noelfresh okay Friday so how how did you break up with him in person text well I had some stuff at his house so I called him I said hey do you still have my stuff uh can I come pick pick it up and

Noelhe was like uh why like is everything okay I said yeah uh we had a discussion and I'm not going to talk about it again so I'm just going to come get my stuff and when I got there I was just like hey really and he's like what and I was like

Nila Shakeyou're still on hinge and he tried to lie and he tried to say no and I was like you're active today let me pull it up did you find out because of your friends like did they send you the screenshots or how did you find out so I

Noelhad a gut feeling literally Friday night I went to the gym afterwards I had this gut feeling I went to my friend's house I used her phone made a fake hinge and then he was like the third card in the stack that popped up and I was like yeah

Nila Shakehell no girls in their gut feelings yes it's okay I'll help you find a nice man a good one one that preferably marriage Tiffany can you can you wear this for the rest of the show just why me it's

Brian Atlaslike a Prussian military helmet so I feel like given what you've stated it's oh what I stated we're valid is it is it like not here give it fix

Nila Shakeit uh good talk okay um oh yeah that's why I got to undo this hold on okay wow Madison your relationship status my current relationship is my

Nila Shakelongest relationship and it's been a year and two months all right good times good times so let's go back to ghosting

Brian Atlasis valid uh that was you right did you say that ghosting is valid yeah what does everybody think about that and let's def like so ghosting

Brian Atlaslet's say you when you say ghosting do you mean like you've been dating somebody you've you've hooked up with them maybe multiple times couple months do you in that instance do you think

El (Ellie)like ghosting is valid even then or no I think I think when is ghosting valid when it's like Street related I feel like what does that mean like streets

El (Ellie)like if it's likeing just like hookup random like type thing like ghosting is fine sure I don't know I think that's valid

Nila Shakeokay what does everyone else here think I agree no I think it's valid but if it's like a serious relationship I think you owe owe it to them to tell them something that would be weird if you like ghosted someone you were seeing

Nila Shakethat would be weird I'm not saying that's valid I mean I feel like if you're in a little it could be a hookup or whatever you never really know what each other are feeling so for some

Nila Shakepeople it could be oh my God wait wait wait oh s sorry go ahead go ahead you're fine you're fine go ahead for some people I feel like it could be valid but

Nila Shakeat the same time if feelings aren't discussed within the two of you I don't think ghosting is valid I feel

El (Ellie)like you owe an explanation a little bit I don't know I feel like if feelings are expressed rest and it's like a mutual like oh we both have feelings for each

El (Ellie)other and then you ghost that's like weird but like if you guys are like undefined and you know I feel like there's a certain like time period like if it's like someone you've been seeing

Nila Shakefor maybe like two weeks or something then it's like you know yeah I would say ghosting is pretty normal though nowadays like yeah if you're if you just have like a one night stand with someone

Nila Shakethat's I guess basically ghosting though totally but yeah I'm not for ghosting at all how do you guys feel about like one night stands

Brian Atlasdegenerate you're about to have a one night stand with the [ __ ] Alabama dude he's coming to see you for four are you do you think you're going to smash no you're not going that's so weird the

Brian Atlasfirst time I'm meeting him I mean that happens hell no do you is that his intentions do you think he's like is he do you think he's

Brian AtlasDTF like if given the opportunity he's Christian yo AB Che thank you for the 20 gifted memberships thank you man is he waiting until marriage cuz you said he had a girlfriend while he was talking to

Tiffanyyou so he wasn't really talking to me he slid into your DMs well we had a mutual interest in like

Tiffany24 no yay 24 yay 24 yeah are you going to be on the campaign Trail for Kanye well Kanye's not running anymore oh he

Brian Atlasdropped out I thought he was okay I didn't know about that okay cool what was the question so do you think you're going to like smash though

TiffanyI mean I said no are you waiting until marriage sort of but not really but sort of but not really but kind of I would have to know like know for sure that I'm marrying that person but like doesn't

Tiffanyhave to be like we don't have to be married officially it's like a what point do you determine that maybe like 3 months after it's like

Nila Shakeoffish I don't know cuz people could be people could be in year-long relationships and they still don't get married so it's like it's just when do you know that you want to I just know I

TiffanyI trust myself in my own judgment I feel she's going to [ __ ] the the dude shut the [ __ ] up you're going to [ __ ] him for sure I'm not oh come into my dorm room

Tiffanyget out of here Jillian oh to bring her up bring up what Jillian yes her roomate she she's your roommate yeah she was on the show too a while ago

Brian Atlasum she was going to be on here but she has pink eye she has pink eye oh are you going to like was that from a dude too did she get pink eye from a dude we don't know it's probably from her Sor house she's in the sority yeah all my

Brian Atlasroom are in sority how do you get how do you get pink ey did you fart on her pillow I don't know it's Pro could have been from a dude that happens

Brian Atlasokay all right she doesn't know about that okay all right um ask a doctor why

Brian Atlasme good talk okay so um I have some pre-show notes I want to get through actually let me uh hold on let me see here what we have uh LM Lauren

Brian Atlasroses donated 400 thank youly [ __ ] excited for 19th uh so that's Lauren roses she she's like been dropping a

Brian Atlascouple donos thank you she's going to be back on the 19th we're going to do a corisan dedicated panel so be sure to tune in on the 19th and catch Lauren

Brian Atlasagain um so and then we had a Super Chat let me get that one can you read this one for us me yeah can you read this her poor boyfriend is

Tiffanyprobably just white and likes this country so he says he's Nat and she thinks a white guy equals white Nat which is a

Tiffanyseparate racist ideology she's dim do you have a response I have no idea what he's talking about white na Jesus Christ well I know but like what's a what's

Brian Atlasdim not very dim like not very bright oh oh it's an insult well first of all he's not my boyfriend yet so not

Brian Atlasyet whyatt and likes his he's you you don't need to keep it it we already read it so are you're reading it

Brian Atlasagain okay ridiculous okay all right um let's see here um here you think you're going to pursue like a committed relationship with him yeah

Kikipotentially well he's going to pursue me I'm not pursuing you seven deadly simps donated $100 question for the ladies does pen

Kikisize matter do you have the pen size preference also as Brian's official wingman do any of you girls have an a large lady also

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Brian Atlas777777 um so the question is does pen does does pen size matter do you have a pen siiz

Brian Atlaspreference bro you really you making me ask as Brian's official wingman do any of you girls have an Audi you you don't if you want you can

Nila Shakeanswer you don't have to okay go ahead um I think it's like the motion of the ocean but also if you have a shrimp it's not going to work a a Shri shrimp a

Brian Atlasshrimp that's this like yeah like this that's this shrimp that's like this that's not good enough no what you think this is going to do anything I mean you said the mo motion of the ocean but I

Nila Shakesaid if you have a shrimp it's just not going to work what if it's like super girthy like what if it's a Chad what's girthy like a oh like a Chad like a CH I don't like

Naathose okay don't like those so it does matter yeah it does okay all right I think it does matter but I think there's like more important stuff so if they're

Naaable to compensate like there's different categories I think of like you know like personality you know how are they looking like you know fun times you know different categories if they're

Wifeu Delilaable to like balance okay what about you me personally I don't give a [ __ ] I don't know you don't you don't give a [ __ ] yeah I don't know so you'd be fine getting

Brian Atlasrailed like by shrimp well I'm not like a very sexual person so it's just I don't care me personally this is offensive by the way we shouldn't call it a shrimp I

Naadon't like the shrimp pick I don't like the shrimp just say uh pickles are bigger than cucumber a Cheeto Cheeto call it what it is a pinky a Cheeto puffet puff okay yeah I'm pretty sure a

Brian Atlaspinky he is like the middle finger in like some part of the world if I'm not wrong but I don't know I feel like women are way too comfortable shaming men like

Brian Atlasif they have like a small peen it's not nice it's not nice why is it not nice to shame men for their the way they were born we're not

Nila Shakeshaming we're just stating our preferences I actually think it's fine to shame men for their small for peen size for whatever

Brian Atlasbring totally fine to shame men for but it's out of their control do you think we should what do you mean of course I'm right you can't change but you can't

Brian Atlaschange your penis size that's just the way you were born I mean yeah you can comp for do you think we should shame women if they have small boobs yeah why not I mean what they can't control that

Nila Shakewhy wouldn't I mean it's okay if you shame someone it's okay if you shame someone for something you know okay I think the world nowadays Society is so sensitive that you can't say anything

Nila Shakethat you will get canceled oh so you're like free speech I'm like free speech just like you're racist like in free speech about it I'm saying like free

Nila Shakespeech okay um but no no I don't think it's right to to shame people like be rude like but it's right to shame based off your prefer preferences so if I'm

Nila Shakelike I do not want small paner if you're like I don't like girls with small boobs that's totally fine you're technically shaming but not like no I don't think that's shaming shaming would like be almost to some degree making fun of the

Brian Atlasperson yeah I think for men it's okay to bully though why it's okay to wait hold on just a point of clarification you think it's okay to bully men but not okay to bully women um to an extent yes

Nila Shakebecause women are more sensitive that's interesting because yeah actually yeah that's why I agree

Nila Shakethat's such a double standard do but do you want to know why it is because when you shame men that's when they work more on themselves like if you bully a guy

Nila Shakehe's going to be like you know what I disagree not get skinny if does it not go the other way though like if you shame a woman don't you think she would work on herself as well she would yeah

Nila Shakebut I'm talking about men I think cuz I personally like will shame men if my boyfriend does something that I don't like like I will tell him or if I see someone I think well let's get our definitions correct here because

Nila Shakeokay okay let's do it you're yeah if your boyfriend does something wrong there's a like like you're going to call it out I'm going to call it out your definition of shaming is different I think yeah my definition of shaming I

Nila Shakethink it's judging what I don't mean like shame but I mean like judging like judging and not in a excuse me toxic way oh my gods [ __ ] smells so bad I have to

Brian Atlasstep out for we like one second actually farted question is it fart Madison literally [ __ ] farted I literally don't fart us Frankie I never fart oh my God I smell it too

Brian AtlasMadison what the [ __ ] she ate a burrito she she ate a [ __ ] burrito the [ __ ] show it was Brian I swe okay hold on what were we talking about we were talking about um you're going to

Brian Atlasget definitions definitions yeah of like shaming yeah so having a conversation with your boyfriend like oh here's something that's upsetting me that's not

Nila Shakewithin the realm of shaming okay yeah well you're right that's just having a civil conversation yeah I mean here I'll Google the that just to get shaming well my definition

Nila Shakeof shaming is that if my brother is getting fat I will shame him for it and I will say you're getting fat you need to lose weight okay that's what I constructive criticism exactly but that's shaming to me like I think

Naathere's a difference between communicating what your preferences are versus like shaming which I

Brian Atlasthink the Google definition make someone feel ashamed that's not really [ __ ] helpful that's exactly that proves her

Brian Atlaspoint so bring shame to cause someone to feel ashamed or inadequate by outdoing or surpassing them can I get the that let me find Oxford maybe they got

Brian Atlassomething better for me um shaming cause somebody to feel ashamed that's like a kind of a circular definition what does ashamed mean to be

Brian Atlasembarrassed or guilty because of one's actions characteristics or associations so to make someone feel embarrassed or guilty for their okay all right okay that's yeah there's ways to bait the

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