Brian Gets SHAMED For His Preferences?! | Dating Talk #91

Date: 2023-08-09

Duration: 3h 43m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CClaudia (DT91)>

BBrandon Mills (DT91)>

MMadison (DT91)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Chat(audience)

SPEAKER_02Heidi(guest)

SPEAKER_03Amy(guest)

SPEAKER_04Nikki(guest)

SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_06Helen Zod(guest)

SPEAKER_07Claudia(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brandon(guest)

SPEAKER_10Aubry(guest)

SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_12Psy(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMadison satirically 'apologizes' for culturally appropriating German culture by wearing a WWI pickelhaube hat

“from the bottom of my heart I would like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody”

QuoteHelen Zod introduces herself — 42, multiple healthcare businesses and new podcast/radio app

“my name is Helen Zod I'm 42 years old and my occupation is I'm a business owner I own several Health healthcare companies from home health hospice Pharmacy compounding commercial buildings”

QuoteClaudia introduces herself — 34, neuropsychologist and TV personality

“my name is Claudia and I'm 34 and I am a neuropsychologist and I'm also a TV personality”

ControversyBrian defends preference for younger women (18-25) as evolutionary/biological, pushes back on 'shaming language' for male preferences after panel challenges him

“it is interesting like women men always get shamed for their preferences standards and boundaries men are not allowed to have preferences”

QuoteNikki reveals she is now waiting until marriage for sex, a standard adopted at age 27

“whether you're religious or not sex is a very powerful energy exchange ... that's as close as you're ever going to physically be with someone”

QuoteBrian summarizes relationship/marriage expectation mismatch

“men marry women with the hope they will never change Women Marry men with the hope they will change invariably they are both disappointed”

QuoteAubry confesses she cheated on her high school boyfriend before college and takes full responsibility

“I felt an extreme amount of Shame for about a week or so and after that I actually told him I told my boyfriend that I cheated on him right before we were about to move out to Hawaii together”

QuoteClaudia reads her Hinge prompt 'dating me is like dating diamonds' and explains the Twilight reference and what she brings to a relationship

“dating me is like dating diamonds it's beautiful ... I think I am a whole package”

Topics Discussed

Introductions

Host Brian Atlas introduces co-host Kiki and 8 panelists: Helen Zod (42, healthcare entrepreneur), Claudia (34, neuropsychologist/TV personality), Amy (33, HR leader/Army veteran), Psy (~39, fashion designer/filmmaker), Heidi (23, unemployed), Aubry (25, Turning Point USA publicist), Nikki (28, aerospace PM), Brandon Mills (25, VFX artist). Relationship statuses covered.

Ariana Grande Infidelity News

Panel discusses Ariana Grande's affair with Ethan Slater (SpongeBob Broadway actor) while both were married. Debate over relative blame between Ariana and Slater. Claudia offers psychological analysis framing Ariana as potentially narcissistic based on behavioral pattern.

Mia Khalifa Marriage/Divorce TikTok Reaction

Panel reacts to viral Mia Khalifa TikTok about her multiple marriages and divorces. Claudia analyzes sex-worker psychology and adrenaline-seeking behavior patterns. Debate over whether it's acceptable to leave a marriage when unhappy.

Divorce Rate and Marriage Skepticism

Extended discussion on 50%+ divorce rates, marriage incentives in military, religious motivations for marriage, pros/cons of marriage for men vs women. Brian expresses skepticism about marriage for men due to legal/financial risks. Helen shares her 14-year marriage and $70k/yr child support experience.

Wedding Ring Cost and Wedding Spending

Panel goes around the table on how much a partner should spend on an engagement ring. Most women say the amount doesn't matter; they value relationship quality over ring cost. Discussion of fiscal irresponsibility of large weddings.

First Date Paying — Who Should Pay?

Debate on who should pay on a first date. TTS donation suggests Separate Checks as a filter for interest. Brian broadly agrees. Panel mixed; most women still expect men to pay.

Brian's Preference for Younger Women (Title Topic)

Nikki and Claudia challenge Brian on why he would date women aged 18-25. Brian defends age preference on evolutionary/biological (fertility) and lower body-count grounds. Panel pushes back on emotional compatibility concerns. TTS comment reads: 'men always get shamed for their preferences'.

Plastic Surgery

Helen discloses her procedures (fat transfer face/foot, brow work, liposuction). Brian states he dislikes breast implants, BBL, lipo, lip fillers, labia plasty. Discussion of double standard: women shamed for aging but also for attempting to fix it via surgery.

Women in the Workforce / STEM

Brief discussion on women entering STEM and corporate careers. Nikki and others discuss feeling sold on corporate ladder climbing that hasn't led to fulfillment. Brian expresses support for women in STEM for solving humanity's problems.

Instagram / Social Media in Relationships

Discussion on whether a boyfriend can ask his girlfriend to delete revealing Instagram photos. Nikki says she would comply willingly. Brian expresses preference for partners with minimal social media presence. Panel debates double standard for men vs women posting revealing photos.

Requirements in a Partner — Final Round

Panel goes around table on what they want in a partner. Helen: minimum 6 feet tall, intelligent, kind, emotionally intelligent, complete package. Amy: no checklist currently, open-minded. Heidi: compatibility and someone who is better than her. Aubry: in relationship. Nikki: now requires celibacy until marriage. Brian: lists physical preferences (shorter height, large labia, soft-spoken/shy).

Body Count Discussion

Panel goes around table on body count. Helen: 10+ but not answered directly. Claudia: 3 (only serious boyfriends). Psy: deflected. Heidi: 7 (stated briefly). Aubry: over 5, under 15. Nikki: not answered. Brandon: not answered.

Self-Ratings Round

Panel asked to rate their looks 1-10. Psy refuses to participate (doesn't see the value). Aubry: 7-8 (stated 'solid 7.8, seven'). Nikki: 6 (or 6.9 on a good day). Most others declined. Brian says there are no 10s at the table.

Aubry's High School Cheating Story

Aubry recounts cheating on her high school boyfriend (together since middle school) right before college at 18 with a virgin male friend. She confessed; boyfriend ended the relationship and exposed her on Twitter. She takes full responsibility.

Claudia's Hinge Dating Profile Review

Brian reviews Claudia's Hinge profile prompts on stream. Prompt: 'Dating me is like dating diamonds' (Twilight Edward reference). Claudia explains she offers peace, emotional regulation, loyalty, and good conversation.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasno I'm gonna date you because I feel like I have compatibility with you so Asia doesn't matter if that in that sense also I just think that you know women who are between the ages of say

Brian Atlas18 to 25 typically have less relationship baggage than women who are in their 30s so I mean that's another component that's related to body count the more people you've slept with like the more

Psyrelationship baggage that you've probably accrued and like I have a question I could start dating aside from them not having so and so what do they have then apart from the physical attractiveness yeah like let's

Psysay we find you that perfect 18 to 25 range like what else is there like

Brian Atlaswell first off I'm not I have no interest in one night stands whether that's with someone my age or with someone younger uh sleeping with someone once to me is just at least in my view it's a waste of time there's there's no I there's a whole bunch of reasons why

Brian Atlasbut it's not worth it um if I want to sleep with somebody I want there to be a continuity I want to continue seeing them um so no it wouldn't be a short-term thing So eventually it's commitment but

Psywhat gives you that commitment so what other things would mind you together to move forward to a commitment as opposed to someone as opposed to just a physical you know sex stuff I mean what is it but

Brian Atlaslike what Okay so a lot of people will say well a woman who's 31 is more established in her career and let's just go back to the 18 and 20 18 to 20. no but what I'm trying

Brian Atlasto say is like a lot of people will argue oh well one of the benefits of dating a woman who's a bit older she's more established in her career men don't really care about that because

Brian AtlasI mean we went around the table except for you I think every single girl here said you want the man to pay so like your your success women who like men you being successful doesn't make you

Brian Atlasmore attractive to a guy is it like good for you like it's awesome if you're successful but your success is not a metric with which men will look at a woman and be like oh she's more attractive because of because of her success in the same way a woman would

Brian Atlaslook at a guy who's a doctor an attorney and be like whoa okay that's kind of they might be more attracted to him because of the uh Prestige that comes with certain careers or the wealth that he has because women don't share their

Brian Atlasresources with the men in the same way that men share their resources with women so that's just I just want to point that out I know that's not the question you're asking that's just another reason why men are more inclined to date younger women and why older

Brian Atlaswomen who are more established in their career it's not like that's not an attraction trigger for men one for evolutionary biological reasons but also just because women don't really share their resources with men the same

Amyway that men share their resources with women but I have to disagree a little bit because I think there's a lot of men that I've spoken to that definitely want a woman who is successful has a college degree things like that and it's not about necessarily Financial but just

Brandonlike mental like they have their [ __ ] together I know I know a lot of life I think oh go ahead oh my gosh

Amyit'll be mean damn

Amyoh I was just saying that I think that there's definitely a lot of men out there that want a woman who has you know got a college degree she's you know got a great career things like that from the mental perspective yeah there's no less

Amyabout financial dependency or resources uh from the man to the woman but just about having a woman who has some level of intellect that they can have a conversation with and that you know the woman's like you know definitely got goals and dreams and ambition I think a

Brandonlot of men like that yes so it's kind of hard because for me for me yeah for me personally that's a little bit harder we met them 34 yeah okay I'm 24 years older than me but I think a lot of guys at least around my age do not look for that at

Helen Zodall maybe if you're a little bit older and you're looking for a wife a little bit too young to like look and your brain's not fully developed yeah absolutely

Brandonbut even then you know a majority of you just finishing the school yeah you know it's different than when you're 35 but I can speak even I can even watch a chat I can guarantee that

Claudianobody looks for that so this is the thing so how about it you're a girl there's a 21 year old and and they for example are doing let's see and it doesn't it doesn't say that they're

Claudiadoing you know just like um they're just like and not that influencers make a lot of money but say that they were just doing maybe like an only fans thing and they want to get married you know and they want to get

Claudiamarried I mean if you're doing only wait so okay but she's highly attractive and say that there's there's this woman who has a PHD in childhood development she's

Claudiapublished she's uh does um a bunch of panels all the time and you know that she's gonna be a good mother to your children but she does

Brandononly fans no there's two different ones so just like she said earlier it's not a detriment either so does it is it kind of neutral like it's not necessarily

Brandondetriment or it doesn't it's not it is so what I'm saying is we don't search for that it's not about so it doesn't matter who's going to be the mother so it's not it doesn't matter who who you

Claudiadon't care about who's going to be a good mother to your children about finances no I don't

Claudiaknow what she does in her life her intellect or her thing now we're I'm talking about money and finances yeah we're talking about money yeah like you can be smart and not like she said but

Claudiashe said a guy likes also should care about the intellect her the degree and Olive listed multiple different yeah I know I thought that was on the exact

Brandontopic of what we're talking about okay but but what about also yes women who are smart are attractive there there you go yeah I mean you don't you can be smart and not be a doctor well I guess

Amywhat other qualities aside from like so like personality qualities okay like are women just like why do we have to ask her do you like to talk to them yeah are women just meat bags or do you like to talk to them too no but like this this

Amyidea wait wait wait wait wait say that again I said are women just meet bags or do you like to talk to them too is that directed at me no I was just talking about yeah

Brian Atlasokay so as somebody who's actually I I'd say I'm kind of more on the introverted side I actually uh I actually do appreciate like I I don't know some people feel the need to like constantly

Brian Atlasbe yapping I'm actually totally cool like I think a a Hallmark of a good relationship is comfort and silence not needing to have to be [ __ ] blabbing

Brian Atlasall the time so but of course I don't want like a brain dead partner but like I also I mean this perhaps coincides with someone who's capable of talking a

Brian Atlaslot I don't want someone who's like very combative yeah that's a good point and so like peace is very important to me yeah um does that mean all intelligent people

Brian Atlasthey talk a lot no not necessarily but this idea this idea that I need like I must have really deep

Helen Zodconversation actually I I do I will agree I love it it's smart person literally I need to be attracted okay then I'm not even I'm gonna walk away

BrandonI'm trying to think of the word it's introspective that's that's kind of what I look for so not necessarily smart like oh no I've had experiences I've had experiences where I'm like smart I've

Brian Atlashad experiences where I'm like okay let's hey babe let's put on a show and she wants to talk during the [ __ ] show I'm like what's that what's going on can we just chill can we just chill

Brian Atlasand watch the show or like sometimes it's like but um no it's not like

Brian AtlasI can have very good conversations with people of any age like this idea that again like someone who's young doesn't have a certain level of maturity maybe

Brian Atlasthey they don't have certain life experiences but I mean I look I I'm sure we can all agree here there's people that you've dated in your age cohort that are terrible people that are not

Brian Atlassure particularly interesting or they're so you can find good people I think at any age um and so I don't know it just sounds like you're more willing to tolerate it from you know 18 to 25 and that's

Nikkitotally fine that's totally okay no I don't want to tolerate it no someone who's like a bad person or if you're weeding through like if you're gonna deal with the annoying things that come with any kind of person he's more willing to tolerate it from like 18 to

Nikki25 yeah okay and that's that's fine that's all that's all we were asking like what other than like her breathability for example yeah you know I'm not going to tolerate a woman who

Nikkihas borderline personality disorder I don't care how [ __ ] hot she is yeah no but like I just met like talking through movies like a little bit like just like a little like harmless questions what's a deal breaker for you that's like but they're but there are

Brian Atlassome men that will tolerate like absolutely egregious Behavior like what if if the person is attractive enough and that applies to both men and women like if a person is attractive enough they'll like Overlook certain red

Brian Atlasflags they're like Ariana Grande certain Behavior he's really trying to get an Ariana Grande for me like if a girl like if there's serious issues there I don't

Brian Atlascare how hot she is I'm not tolerating major major issues so yeah good times oh really quick just to go back to the plastic surgery stuff um because I don't

Brian Atlasknow there's a little bit of pushback on that so

Brian AtlasI would prefer a woman like so let's say a woman had fake breasts but before she was totally flat a lot of people might think well like I I would prefer her totally flat as she was I don't care if they were lopsided

Brian Atlasif one was bigger than the other whatever the [ __ ] I don't care I would prefer her as she was without fake breasts yes same with same with uh lipo I'd prefer a girl I'd prefer a girl with a

Brian Atlaslittle bit of belly fat than with a lipo belly I think it doesn't look great uh BBL I'd prefer a girl with a flat butt than with a big BBL I think it looks weird uh what's the other one lip

Amyfillers I'd prefer a girl with a small upper lip than with lip fillers I think that's coming back I think like way less women are getting lip Fuller now like a lot of girls are getting it dissolved which I love I'm excited to see women be

Brian Atlasmore confident with their own face yeah I think it's definitely coming back um all right let me let me get a couple shots here we have uh doc venables sorry but white coat you are such a

Brian Atlashypocrite you bragged about all the dough you make but will not have a second date if the man won't pay no wonder you have trouble with dates cats Lots wow wow there you go

Helen Zodum wait I saw in your Instagram it said you were a feminist is that correct feminist and liberal both I cannot like categorize myself just with like one I

Helen Zoddefinitely I'm a feminist but I have also life showed me that I have to respect men so much too and like I'm not going to judge because oh you're a man and basically I'm gonna disregard and

Helen Zodthis is my belief system so kind of about two years ago like I have respect to human being and is is not based on if you're a male or female

Helen Zodokay but like but this will have lots of lots of passion for women it's like a part of me because I'm a survival and I survived in life and I had a very very hard life coming out from Iran and

Helen ZodMiddle East and being really living in a very suppressed country so like there's a part of me always want to fight for a woman and then like my heart goes for

Brian Atlaswomen maybe not as much a ghost for men okay but like as a as a feminist um kind of what what are the primary things that you believe in related to that

Brian AtlasI believe a woman should not sell their body okay there's different absolutely there's different feminist views on that on one some feminists believe that women should have the freedom freedom if

Brian Atlasyou want to have fun I'm perfectly fine but then there's the other side of well it's for the benefit of the male gaze and uh you know you're being uh

Brian Atlasobjectified and it you're uh being uh what's the other word that's often used

Helen Zodyou mean no there's another term that is evading me but um okay you know I never go to um strip club um I just somehow randomly ended up two

Helen Zodweeks ago in the strip club I didn't know that's a strip club I was supposed to go to the bar section and end it up and watching the girls bending and taking money from floor and I was just

Helen Zodit was like I'm getting slapped in the face I couldn't do it I want to save them and I could not stand there and I would like almost had tears in my eyes and I'm like what can I do what can I contribute to the society so the girl

Helen Zodvalue herself so the girl gold find The Courier the girl finds like something for herself that values more than someone throw money and pick it up so wait as a feminist do you believe in

Helen Zodequality we can't really have 100 equality because we are different species we can't really have hundred percent we're not in different species no no no no no like I mean we are men and women so they're you're different yeah yeah okay

Brian Atlasyeah um well do you so like as a feminist do you think that women I know you said you're from Iran so let's do you think women in the west are oppressed

Helen Zodsometimes they can't yeah okay if they're from smaller cities um because I work with lots of women and then majority of my employees are women so there's I still see that in all

Brian Atlasdifferent cultures okay um I maybe have five uh male employee and like 120 female wow we need to put some quotas on your uh hiring practices

Brian Atlassee that's that's what's interesting I feel like equality like if there's an over-representation of women in the field that's equality but if there's an over-representation of

Helen Zodmen in the field that's somehow evidence of I I know sort of annoying is completely correct but also I'm in healthcare Healthcare nurses male nurses same with

Brian Atlaseducation you make good money in nursing maybe uh there should be some quotas some there should be a push for for more male nurses yeah like Meet the Parents

Brian Atlasokay um and so do you believe in the patriarchy um that's kind of a core tenet of feminism I think

Helen Zodyou know I so I don't believe anything that is like written with how can I say this is like this is the law and you have to believe everything this way I don't believe

Helen Zodanything I feel like every human being should be free from choosing and bending a law that it doesn't benefit their life

Helen Zodso for example I want to say I'm raised in a Muslim family and then and then my ex-husband was a Muslim and then they wanted me practice certain type of

Helen Zodbehavior for example we couldn't shake hand if they're non-muslim and then so this was Norm to this Society so if I touch your hand and you're a Christian or you're a Jew or you're any other

Helen Zodnationality is like it like I'm almost dirty if I'm touching someone else so so then I need to have a freedom although if I'm raised with that uh culture if I'm raised with that religion and

Helen Zodeverything what's that have to do with the patriarchy can we Define it no Cherokee yeah I was just gonna ask you yeah no I just want to say like like I don't believe like yeah I just want I was trying to say

Helen Zodlike like you should be free to bend over rules whenever you want to and whatever it's wrong with wait if you don't want if you don't believe

TTS/Chatany part of it won't be confused well okay but I'm just asking because oh hold on Yo Prometheus thank you donated 100 as a Hospital

TTS/Chatemployee there are copious amount of male nurses I'm not a nurse but I can attest I've seen them and communicated with them oh yeah of course yeah

Brian Atlasdefinitely thumbnails I'm not saying it doesn't exist well I'm sure I'm sure the there's uh they've released statistics on the breakdown of nurses I don't know what it is but it's probably

Brian Atlasit's largely women for sure it's for sure I don't know if it's 80 90 but um it's pretty high uh well okay I'm just asking because you described yourself as a feminist but you also want a guy to pay for a first date you know let me

Helen Zodtell you why let me tell you why because I've been I've been uh because of um I know this is going sound a little bit cheesy and it's not going to be like but I've been conned before like you got

Helen Zodconned yes it would like also guys coming after reminding also guys coming and looking for like oh for you like seeking Financial benefits or this and that so because of that is like

Helen Zodusually I have a lifestyle if I want to enter the guy in my life there is lots of financial benefit that whoever comes in my life they um they will receive so if

Helen Zodthey cannot even pay for the first date and I'm like I'm gonna have problem with my lifestyle so I think this can be more personal to my life maybe not going to be applied to everyone else right but I

Helen Zodjust feel like if you're feminist you believe in equality and within it like the equal thing be to so that's what I said so I choose a part

Helen Zodof being feminist not all of it so it's like like so I do believe equality but not 100 because we can be for example 100 equal that's what I was trying to

Aubrysay we can't be equal as a man and woman but I mean so equality when it benefits you yeah that's what it sounds yes she admits it there you go okay well not to choose meaning by the laws I

Aubrythink too or and saying you know one can bend she believes that one can kind of almost Bend laws when it's or like the patriarchy like societal things when it

Aubrybenefits them is almost what you were saying right what is the Patriots

Amydid you see the Barbie movie no I said what is the no what is the patriarchy no I know so if I was asking if you've seen the Barbie movie because I have and it's not about horses so what is it about uh so the in the Barbie movie uh they kind

Nikkiof go into what patriarchy and matriarchy is um get your feminist talking points I was more interested in Oppenheimer but yeah no I watched that too it was so good Killian Murphy anyway

Brian Atlassorry wait hold on how old is Killian Murphy he's 45 I looked and married wait hold on how old are you 28. that's a reasonable age reasonable age I'm past my Prime

Brian AtlasI know I know I have such a crush on him

Brian Atlasfine because I'm not yeah right he's writing that down he's writing that down red flag all right uh let's do a couple soup chats here we have uh DJ tuck bar thank you man Brandon I know

Brian Atlasyou got them big bucks but you need to spend some on the tan you damn near as wide as the table my guy I thought he was going to do a uh like under the table on his phone do a little [ __ ] champagne you know I'm actually

Brian AtlasI'm not even I'm not I'm gonna get there but uh oh okay Brandon champagne whatever the uh okay Bender the offender ladies if your dream man was dating your female best friend would you try to steal him from her Ariana Grande

Brandonno not me I feel like my dream man wouldn't be dating okay wait so if Killian Murphy was dating your best friend no you get what would you do I didn't like the Barbie movie

NikkiAll I'm gonna say everyone thinks that I liked I didn't think you can't score that's all okay okay I'm kidding no you can't be like if someone is dating someone especially in your personal

NikkiCircle that's weird and I'm gonna be honest like I don't want your seconds that's weird that's weird to me interesting and it's like if you didn't if you had the option between my friend and me and you picked her why would I want you after you already

Nikkipick someone else whether it's my friend or not I don't really he's not really my dream man I wouldn't think so yeah yeah that's odd I feel like if you can steal a man

Nikkithat man honestly he's kind of trash it he's like who's the hottest one so I'm gonna say no on that we'll never go after a man can be if Killian Murphy is ever single

Brandonyes X5 podcast it's so cool you have the chick from Rocky 4 on your pod oh my God she has aged so well don't know what that's a reference me too I don't know the guy's probably sat

Nikkiand plays video games all the time he drinks yeah for sure with like a Cheeto with a garnish

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Brian Atlasif your dream end was dating your female best friend would you try to steal him from Earth yeah we all said no all right we got puffy Vegas if I said it once I'll say it a thousand times there's no such thing as a faithful woman Ron

Brian Atlasyeah all right we have Sean median thank you man from my understanding the story came out as false this week just saying but she definitely has a pattern of this oh

Brian Atlasthat's about Ariana wait the story is false no I don't think so no okay if you look at the guy Legend here to Ariana I kind of thought really really sure to be fair he's probably like such

Brian Atlasa Chad he's played SpongeBob on Broadway are you sure about that here's the thing though like the Broadway dudes the Broadway dudes are just they're just getting ran through the box

Brian AtlasI think a lot of a lot of the men on Broadway are are not straight I think I'm pretty sure like a lot of men in theater are not straight yeah so like the ones that are in the same way

Brian Atlaslike a straight male ballerina is like [ __ ] all the ballerinas like just because like there's no competition so he's just going through all the theater chicks I guess I don't know um

Brian Atlasthat's my bro science theory there um I didn't know it was fake though but thank you Sean uh X5 podcast is so cool you have the chick from Rocky 4 on your pod she

Brian Atlashas aged well thank you X5 appreciate it oh whoa holy [ __ ] oh my God I thought that was a hundred holy [ __ ] Bro wow yo X5 thank you very much

Amyum I'd like to keep the insults coming yeah you're gonna pay for them wow that thank you that's uh yeah let me know we'll take them all day is it towards you we'll take your cash I don't know who it's towards but thank you for the money

Brian Atlasyo dude X5 I think this is Jeff Jeff if this is you thank you man really appreciate it um I I'd like to remind send a little reminder there guys YouTube takes a 30

Brian Atlascut of Super Chat Revenue membership Revenue so instead of super chatting I do direct you guys to try to go to streamlabs.com whatever you can do it through Super Chat it's fine it's not a big deal but uh if you want less of your

Brian Atlasif or excuse me if you want more of your contribution to actually go towards whatever and not into the pockets of woke megacorp YouTube that doesn't need the money um consider doing it through stream Labs because they only take three percent

Brian Atlaswhereas YouTube as I said takes 30 so what is 30 of 500 that's 150 I believe

Brian Atlasyou're giving 150 again I'm I'm super grateful very thankful but just keep in mind you're giving 150 dollars of this 500 to YouTube whereas if you did

Brian Atlasthrough stream Labs I think it would be like there'd be like a 20 Buck 20 payment processing fee on a 500 uh so did you know you know this is Food For Thought guys food for thought if you want to do it through stream Labs but

Brian Atlaseither way is fun I know it's cooler because on YouTube it like shows in the chat so it's whatever you guys want just you know Blake Rowlands thank you man marriage is a vow to love and cherish till death not the vow to love and

Brian Atlascherish only if you're happy yo very very good point I pray my future wife stands by me through it all yeah I mean that's the other thing the vows you say

Brian Atlaslike your word weren't people's words means nothing till death till death do us part has to mean something in sickness and in health what's the

Psyother part in in uh for better for worse For Better or For Worse yeah

Psyisn't there a stat that usually when a partner gets sick it's usually the guy who leaves the relationship I think it's fake news I think that's fake news the real news in Middle East and Asia I

Brian Atlasthink it's fake news um like if you're like you were really suffering from Hashimoto's like I'd I'd stick it out just saying if you really suffer I would okay I would you know I

Brian Atlaswouldn't you know just say Okay Buffy Vegas we have uh thank you man I'm a 48 year old man I know what this girls are saying now is a youthful thinking but listen to this 100 puffy come on brother

Brian Atlasof women my age who don't have kids are depressed and miserable listen to me once you cannot have kids it's too late you know what though you know what though

Brian AtlasI think a really s like rebuttal for to this from the other side is that well like I don't think men are holding up that great either

Brian AtlasI don't think anybody well like I mean if you look at um rates there is something to be said about like the act the comparative rates of like uh depression or whatever between men and

Brian Atlaswomen in certain age cohorts but like men are deleting themselves more so like um you know and they make more money so okay KV Moga thank you man the best

Amyvalue women brings to the planet is giving birth don't be a slave to modern feminism lies in propaganda I don't know a woman took us to the moon it's a special thing to give birth scientists that wrote a mathematician

Amythat wrote all the code I mean I think that's a pretty amazing thing to add to the world besides just a child agreed I mean a woman burst her to be able to do that sure I'm not saying that isn't valuable but that's not the only purpose

Nikkia woman has definitely well he's saying the best value yeah it's a very special thing to be in his opinion bring life into this world yeah I agree I think I I mean my my view on

Brian Atlasthis is and I've said this before um there are certainly ramifications of doubling the labor pool when we kind of did that economically speaking in case in point like you can no longer raise a

Brian Atlasfamily on one uh income generally speaking but uh I do think it's beneficial that we've opened up the uh labor pool to women insofar as uh we can

Brian Atlasnow and I'm using this term in the most charitable sense of the term we can now exploit women's genius and intelligence and Brilliance to tackle some of the most

Brian Atlasum difficult problems that we as the human race are facing chiefly for example I think it's wonderful if we have more women pursuing uh like cancer research I think it's wonderful for us

Brian Atlasto throw women's intelligence and Manpower or I suppose woman power uh towards those issues I mean so uh I think more women should get into

Brian Atlasstem and yeah more people in general should get into stem and attempt to tackle uh because I mean cancer known cancer knows no gender uh

Brian Atlasillness knows no yeah gender so I think uh if we can tap into women's intellect to attempt to solve these things I'm I'm all for it all right we have Mount

Brian Atlaswhateverest missed moving that three of clubs you're right inside joke like you know I'm a big Solitaire buff so puffy Vegas hey thank you man I'm going to rate the girls

Brian Atlasstarting with the girl from Rocky four seven eight six seven six six seven and the girl in the Hat 7.5 what about me you're you're a male so I don't he was rating the girl oh we have DJ takvar hey

Brian Atlasthank you brunette shorty next to Brandon what's your ethnicity you're fine as hell girl hashtag Shooters shot shoot excuse me also God damn it Brian we need more room temp

Brian AtlasIQs on the show let me be your talent scout I'd have that panel so inept to make Biden look like MLK okay um yeah no I'm I think the panel's

Brian Atlasactually been uh really good uh it's too much so sometimes there's a lack of discussion going on so I appreciate people actually having some input on things thank you DJ puffy I've

Brian Atlasknown a lot of Utah girls my point they were not having they were doing back puffy my dude bro I dm'd you on Instagram puffy are you gonna answer me if you don't answer me I will be very

Brian Atlasdisappointed sir uh hold on what the [ __ ] oh rip hold on like what the f okay we have bran uh what

AmyBender the offender Army lady I have a sneaking suspicion you were a bare ax bunny so they're referring to a Barracks bunny because God forbid a woman be beautiful and be in the military so there'd be there's been a lot of

Amycomments like this saying that I'm sure you know that they're sure I was just a Barracks bunny but not only did I serve in Afghanistan and work with women and children in a war-torn country for almost two years uh but I was also a Repel master air assault and the first

Amyfemale in the history of the Oregon Army National Guard uh to pass repel Master school so uh definitely not a Barracks bunny by any means uh yeah uh definitely a lot more intelligent than that and I

Brian Atlasjust did your dad only sorry wait I love that enter the offender

Amyso Barracks is where people live in the military it's referred to as the barracks oh it's a nice truck did you ever uh any

Amydid I ever have any military relations no no did you ever

Amykill a man oh come on move on yeah move on yes well no let's move on okay oh okay what's your other kind of Body Count yeah the other body count all

Brian Atlasright all right here I am all right puffy Vegas I'm 48 years I've known thousands of men that I've owned several businesses I've never once heard a man bring up a woman's finances we do not care we do not care excited except we do

TTS/Chatnot care can't wait to be mid at my job oh Bend to the offender donated 99 so you smashed a bun damn that's a loss for you

Amyoh for the dad coming down wait what when you made it this is the offender yeah keep the money coming let's get this man paid so what so you smell no you're saying that his dad's a bum yeah

Amyand you smashed the button whatever you want then spend more money wow this is getting deeper that's why he's being rude on you yeah it's because he's right on you because he thinks you're

Brian Atlasattractive I know I think he'll be dming me later this always happens you're gonna get bullied this is not my first rodeo for you okay uh Matthew Saturn hey thank you for the 50. uh first time catching

Brian Atlasy'all sevens all day question for the panel why do we need money welcome to the whatever Economic Policy podcast um why do we need money yeah honestly

Brian Atlasbuy gold we need money so I mean you know you barter instead of trading goats for Tailoring

Nikkiit's like a way to you know that's a way to you know I actually don't know how why do we need money so we can exchange it for goods and

Nikkiservices so I don't have to go and shoot my dinner every night there we go that is fun though I think it would be fun I just like I

Brian Atlasneed LASIK in my eyes I can't see so I would probably miss and me too yeah my LASIK surgery okay so let's uh I'm gonna try to come back to a couple of

Brian Atlasthe points that you guys sent in the pre-show information uh let's see we have Amy the challenges of dating today it's

Brian Atlasso hard to find people who want a traditional relationship what is a traditional relationship I mean what did I say I can't remember what I said when I wrote it literally what I just said but what is a

Amytraditional relationship um well I mean uh traditional relationship you said it's hard to find yeah so well I was referring to Los Angeles like in Los Angeles which is where I live um wait who here's from LA or lives in

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Brian Atlasthere's nothing wrong with goats but just like as a matter of Simplicity when it comes to bartering like you got to bring the goat to the dude and then he's

Brian Atlasgot to get you some moccasins it's [ __ ] like we don't you know that's why we have money we you know makes it easier okay I don't know all right so people can do the work you don't want to

Brian Atlasdo yeah yeah I'm gonna do it my I was rewarded with these pieces of paper which have value for my labor I am now trading it for your labor

Amy[ __ ] okay um wait go ahead we were talking about uh relationships traditionally yeah so I mean it's traditional relations like in Los Angeles today like there's so many as you're kind of going through the

Amydating apps and stuff there's so many men who um are you know out in the open and say I want like an ethical non-monogamous yeah exactly relationship and it just seems like that's

Amyoverwhelmingly the norm in Los Angeles now and so when I talk about like a traditional relationship um I mean like you know monogamous exclusivity not having an open

Brian Atlasrelationship sure yeah okay all right anybody here also want a traditional relationship yeah yeah not you what what do you want are you are you ethically non-monogamous

PsyI've always been monogamous okay what why are you looking at me I'm just saying um I think my answer is going to depend on

Psythe next partner so I'm open to that yeah I'm open to figuring out what I want when I finally meet that person well when I meet a person would you be okay

Psywith it being open on his end but closed on yours open on his end like he could see other girls but you can't see others why would we arrive at that though it has to be a

Psyreason like usually you go into a relationship having the same values so why would why would we eventually get into that because you're kind of like you know

Psyyou're being considerate of your partner you're just kind of being there is a good um discussion there like with Esther perel if you guys are familiar like she actually asks

Psyum well she actually discusses how we try to make that one person into everything right best friend um someone who you share I don't know

Psylike sports or whatever your interests are and she asked this question should your partner be the only one resource for this kind of connections it's an open-ended question it always depends on the type of person that you

Psyare so no wrong answers there I think they should be your priority yeah but it's opening that talk where realistically this is according to her

PsyI've been reading her it took a village to get you know the resources the connections that you have but now we are so concentrated like here the modern dating it's very you know

TTS/Chat99 I don't date women who have deflated lips no man wants to pump up a tire that has a hole in it he's still on it I think that's to have a response to

AmyBender the offender yeah I mean I just want him to keep sending you money so I mean go for it what else she got but that's your clap back yeah no I mean like I'm just not worried about it I'm just not worried about it I mean like this this is the thing this is not my

Amyfirst time doing a podcast and it's definitely not my first time having many people be like oh she's in the military she must be a Barracks Bunny and then go for my lips or my face or whatever I'm I'm fine with it like keep it coming it gets this man paid please respect our

Amyveterans yeah that's crazy disrespectful do you lift yeah I do Jiu Jitsu too I'm kind of Myron you're you've got a

Amygood some guns no I can see the vein even yeah it's just I mean like honestly like who goes after a [ __ ] combat veteran yes seriously I'm like come on it's true there's people that are going

Amyto be in my DMs later that's that's what's going to happen okay I'm sorry I want to go out they just want me to be a dominant they're just all collectively thank you for your service no that's not necessary it's not necessary I'm just

Brian Atlaslike who does that like I think we should if you really want to clap back at Bender you would be like why are you why is your name like a future

Brian Atlaswait so uh just again chop hands who wants a traditional relationship okay gotcha and so Nikki you said that um

Brian Atlasyou said something about uh you're religious right you're Christian okay uh you want like a traditional you said don't have sex before marriage which is very traditional it is but

Nikkihappiness have you had any indiscretions or indiscretions have some entanglements uh

Nikkiuh truly committing to my faith now it's making sense of why this is in place because it's not a good you gotta speak into the Mind otherwise they can't hear you sorry um

Nikkiwhether you're religious or not sex is a very powerful energy exchange and if you think about it that's as close as you're ever going to physically be with someone why you're waiting until marriage but

Brian Atlasyou you you are waiting until marriage is that correct that is correct but has that always been your standard it hasn't always been my standard when did your standard change

Brian Atlaslast year okay so you're 28 so at 27 yeah so previously just like regular relationship

Nikkiindiscriminate sex like a couple times a week or what are we talking about I in people I've dated that I've been in like committed relationships with I mean yeah just like everyone else okay you're intimate and then you break up and then

Nikkiyou find another person you're dating but um more recently just thinking it's not helpful to have all these intimate connections

Nikkiwith people it's not healthy for you and sure it's just not it actually is helpful to weed out people because then you're not basing things off of like a primal physical

Nikkiconnection though that is important it's very important but you're forced to see what compatibilities you truly have and if you genuinely enjoy being around this person so if you take sex out of that

TTS/Chatequation well it is a very important element it can't be the only one step 93 donated 99 yeah thank you Mickey let me

TTS/Chatfly you out to DC and have a day you're so effing pretty Amy keep bringing the SAS love it to what size said I love that question we put so much pressure on

TTS/Chatloving only one person romantically yeah I never become cringe buzzword too oh yo JT thank you ma'am appreciate it yeah that was really nice thank you

Brian Atlasthere you go uh do you take he wants to fly you out to DC that's amazing do I get to know anything about him first no that's it he's just his user handle that sounds like how I get murdered actually

Brian Atlasso I'm gonna I'm gonna say like thank you but why don't we uh have a conversation first okay JT if you want to send another chat let us know age details height tell us tell us the

Brian Atlasdetails um okay thank you man appreciate it uh so that one came through we got all those caught up let me just check for we have this one oh wait we already did that one we're watching all sevens wait we got okay I have a question for you

Brian Atlasbecause we gotta pull up your Instagram really quick um yeah okay we gotta pull your up up your Instagram um hi Nick if you can pull up Nikki's

Brian AtlasInstagram por favor so while we wait for Nick to do that I have a question for you if your boyfriend asked you to make your Instagram private and or take down any revealing photos bikini photos for

Nikkiexample would you do it yeah why not scroll down

Nikkiyeah I think you're just so tasteful I mean I mean I'm from Redondo Beach like I I'm at the beach a lot I'm are these like are these bad no no it's okay I mean I can I can handle

Nikkisome criticism if they're too much I'll take them down I don't mind but you wouldn't object to him if your boyfriend no I no I really don't if he could say like hey you know what this is a little bit too much skin for the whole world to

Nikkisee wouldn't you go take it down I'd be like you know what yes but you know you have to remember that goes both ways but then again but here's the thing I'm gonna be honest like if my man like looked really good

Nikkiwith the shirt off be like yo let me post these like I don't think it's that big of a deal but I think sure where's your what's your intention with it I would say die uh for both for both like

Nikkiposting a certain picture what's your intention is it a thirst trap is it just like hey here's me at the beach or I think that matters context matters but I don't have any objections to taking things down I care about this person

Nikkimore I care about the people on my Instagram feed so okay yeah interesting interesting did you think I was gonna say no I respect men I love men no but I do think it's different like if a guy has

Brian Atlaslike shirtless Beach picks I think that's a little different than a woman who has like bikini pics really why why because the attack the level of attention that men and women receive is vastly different

Brian Atlasand then the way that men and women flirt but is that very different like the attention she gets it's not well I mean if you're posting like that kind of

Helen Zodcontent then that's like double the standard what do you mean like if the man does it it's okay and if the woman does it if the woman does it well there's all kinds of double standards yeah true the man's

Aubrynot gonna get the attention though he will for me I think that should matter interesting I think men talk about it a little bit publicly differently than women do like I think men look at

AubryWomen's Instagrams and they go and they talk about it with everyone and anyone whereas like women we do go look of course we do like we yeah we look at Men's and like oh like that guy group looks crazy it looks so we do do that kind of stuff we just don't talk about

Aubryit in the same way like many conversations and I also think what matters most here when it comes to a woman's Instagram and having her delete stuff is what was the intention behind posting it I was just going through my

Nikkizone no matter what the intention is oh I think it kind of does she may be not fair though if you think about like if I post anything there's going to be some weird dude that's like oh show this and that it's like okay I don't control

Brian Atlaswhat's coming out of his mouth I control what I'm doing well okay so look when it comes to intention yes like perhaps intention does matter a little bit however the end result of what is

Brian Atlasultimately out there your your initial intention doesn't matter if the potential negative consequences or impact on your relationship are the same because your intention like

Brian Atlasif those sorts of things are out there and it has a negative impact on the relationship in some way then Brian do you want me to delete pictures off my Instagram I mean you're not dating we're not dating you you can do

Brian Atlaswhatever you want um well it's just interesting I'm sorry like I'm I'm kind of like I don't

Brian AtlasI don't really care all that much like guys have different views on this um however would it be my like leaning oh hey swordless

Brian Atlasmerci beaucoup for the 20 gifted memberships it would be my slight preference for my girl to have like minimal social media presence minimal uh does that mean you have to have a minimal social media presence well this

Brian Atlasis what I do for work there's a difference because it no but there's like a a normal girl who has no intention of making money on social media is like

Brian Atlascould very well be posting degenerate photos on Instagram I'm not saying I'm not saying your photos are degenerate I'm speaking hypothetically here but like if you're posting super revealing photos on Instagram

Brian Atlasit's different and also you can go to my Instagram like I'm not I'm not posting uh you're not posting their straps no maybe you should I mean that's not the type of person I

Brian Atlasam but but uh I don't know where I was going with this did you have a question there's a lot of questions here no the the thing that I wanted to touch on was that it's

Brian Atlasdifferent between men and women because okay women run passive game like women don't really approach men but they'll put themselves in positions where they

Brian Atlascould be approached by men they won't DM a man but they'll post pictures to lure him into dming them via Instagram social media so men are salesmen women are marketers

Brian Atlasthe difference is though when you get into a relationship there's an expectation that the guy stop being a Salesman and like approaching women however women were never approaching men to begin with women were

Brian Atlasmarketing themselves so women are continuously marketing themselves even when they're in a relationship so that's kind of my qualm with it makes sense

Psya lot of people like don't have the capacity to see that nuanced distinction there I think it just boils down to finding someone who shares the same values as

Psyyou it's like you don't even have to go big picture like okay this is what you want then go for that yeah no but I mean yeah we were talking about like it happening oh oh hold on well come back

Brian AtlasBrian can't post their straps because it would literally crash Instagram he's a whole effing snack JK much love bro very diverse panel to show keep up the good work yeah I think it's a really good panel tonight um

Brian Atlasno I just there's there's differences between men and women and so like you okay Madison oh oh it was a sneeze okay okay

Brian Atlasum like in a committed relationship a man should stop pitching and a woman should stop advertising Fair proposition

Nikkiabout like your man or someone you're talking to like fire Emoji responding to girls Instagram stories absolutely yeah

BrandonI think it depends on the intention as well yeah it's like fire your bikini posts weren't that out there but like if you're like you've never seen those only fan models or like their bikini and they're just tits are out yeah yeah it's

Brian Atlasthat's kind of what we're not looking for yeah good times good times okay so oh we okay we did that hold on we got some more notes here from everybody

Brian Atlasum Nikki you dated a guy from an old Nickelodeon show and he ended up being a huge racist huh who which which show oh please don't it's gonna be I can't just just say it just say just say it don't worry no there's like nobody watching

Nikkithe show oh there's like two people watching no I can't do that it doesn't it doesn't matter why but um I have Shia LaBeouf no he was on the Nickelodeon show wasn't

Nikkiit no I think it was Disney Channel Disney Channel yeah that was Disney Channel uh uh no it wasn't him I would absolutely say it if it was Shia LaBeouf um okay anyway uh you don't want to

Nikkishare I'm not gonna share who it was okay yeah I ended up meeting him and I was thinking I'm like why do you you look so familiar and he's like oh you know he kind of just brushed it off and I was like oh interesting and then we're literally in the middle of like dinner

Nikkiand I was like oh my God it hit me like just so and I was like gosh and I was like okay cool whatever then as the date like progressed he just started saying some very outlandish

Brian Atlasthings um I don't know if I can say yeah okay okay so yeah never called him you also said the most Petty thing deal breaker slightly irrational deal breakers that shouldn't be deal breakers but totally

Nikkiare mine is anyone who likes country music immediate no I don't like country music I'm sorry I I can't it's too twangy turn the lock and I don't know what that song is but I don't like it it's a deal

Nikkibreaker aren't you like Christian conservative don't a lot of I know sort of people like countries like the tried in a small town try that in a small town I'm from California I'm from Los Angeles I don't do I don't do that but

Nikkiironically enough yeah I do want someone who like knows how to survive like on a ranch or a farm or something I'm like but I don't like country music it's terribly ironic and the irony is not lost on me okay you know yeah not ideal

Brian Atlasfor me good times good times um okay so we have Claudia here you said uh you're you're a doctor correct yeah but as in PhD

Brian Atlasis it fair to is it fair to claim doctor yeah

ClaudiaDon if it's fair to claim doctor is that your title yes technically PhD I have two phds I have two phds I'm a

Claudianeurology and and it's like Clinical Psychology so uh yeah into the mic and I have a two phds in Clinical Psychology

Claudiaand neurology so like I and I now um August 14th I'm gonna start um doing more Neuroscience I'm going to be a neuropsychology so I like help

Claudiarehabilitate you know people with TM like trauma brain injury and mapping out like the MRIs and seeing you know now I have to predict since I can't do talk

Claudiatherapy anymore I have to predict their program in order to have for them to have a better quality life so I absolutely do the hard work so yes I

Brian Atlasclean myself as a doctor okay so you work do that yeah so you said you want to talk about the behavioral pattern on well your show you're my show yeah uh and the reason why all the women you

Claudiachoose are what we call avatars what do you mean by that okay so when I noticed is that um you gotta speak hold on hold on let me just stop this right here I need you directionally because you're

Claudialike ducking behind okay like I need you up on the mic and are you speaking directly straight into it go ahead okay so um so well some of the past shows I've noticed that this that you're becoming

Claudiathis show I saw some of the past shows and a lot of these women I noticed that they um some of them are like would cop start copying what they said to each other and

Claudiaget um and the word is actually not triggered it's actually reactive abuse like so they would get politics well no it's not semantics it's it's a

Claudiaactual definition so and it's not your fault it's that they get very angry so they stop you actually stop listening to each other and that's something I

Claudianoticed and both of you guys are on defense and so they literally stop listening to you guys and they're angry and by this time they're just saying and

Claudiaspitting things and like not listening to what you're trying to say or whatever other Palace is trying to say so like literally there's actually no debate happening and by this time that's why

Claudiathey're walking out they're they're starting to get teary either they're starting to rage so it's pretty rare we have that I mean we've had a couple people like leave the show obviously like I'm I'm

Claudiaattempting to uh you know have debates with people so no yeah absolutely absolutely yeah I've seen no and I and I understand that it's a show but I I've

Brian Atlasseen that like that some of the girls do get you know pushed into something that gets them very angry they don't know yeah sure yeah no no totally I'm sometimes no no absolutely and that's

Claudiawhat makes your show very successful because honestly I get really into it too but I see that that the more that they're pushed they're they're getting they're getting they're becoming very

Claudiareactive to the show and what that's usually in as a psychology term it's called um an avatar because all of the girls start becoming um reactive just like they are like they

Claudiaare um not all of them but for the most part like if they're close enough to each other they all start reacting because they want to defend the girl the girl State even if it doesn't even equalize

Brian Atlasto them or they didn't have that inspired idea before not always but I mean the the thing that actually did I did agree with you on is uh like if one girl like the first girl that answers

Brian Atlasand if she answers the question a certain way oftentimes what I have noticed is the like following girls will like count like get in line behind what she said instead of

Brian Atlasactually voicening voicing their genuine uh opinion or thought on a topic so I have noticed that where whoever sits in that chair kind of sits can set the tone for the show and if

Brian Atlaslike this person in the chair is like very you know kind of says something reasonable like so the net the following girls are not going to be so inclined to be genuine in their answer but uh you

Brian Atlassaid that you also you dated comedians or actors or very wealthy men yeah what's the wealthiest man you've ever any billionaires no multi-million multi-millionaires yes his net Worth's

Brian Atlaslike around 600 million yeah it's pretty good yeah pretty good nothing to uh yeah okay um

Brian Atlasso you said modern dating is a mess that and you don't I don't participate men do not know how to date and women are entitled um when you say men don't know how to date what do you mean

Claudiaum agreed for

Claudiafree sorry sorry I was so sorry he said the same thing sorry um yeah that I'm finding it hard for like men to like I like the traditional men so I feel like I'm more like I I

Claudiawill say that like I'm more like a foreign woman that I prefer men to be more like like how foreign men treat

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