UNBANNED! Waldo RAGE QUITS! She LOVES To Cheat?! | Dating Talk #74
Date: 2023-05-15
Duration: 4h 33m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS(audience)
SPEAKER_01Kiki (co-host)(host)
SPEAKER_02Nala Ray(guest)
SPEAKER_03Madison Vu(guest)
SPEAKER_04Mary Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_06Lara(guest)
SPEAKER_07Gloria(guest)
SPEAKER_08Lindsay(guest)
SPEAKER_10Jonathan (MLD)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Heather (Waldo)(guest)
Key Moments
00:04:34
QuoteNala Ray intro: declares herself 'ahegao queen and OnlyFans creator,' 24 years old.
“I'm the aego queen and OnlyFans Creator on topics 24 years old”
00:20:53
QuoteNala reveals cheating is her 'biggest fantasy' and she has cheated in past relationships.
“I love cheating it's actually my biggest fantasy”
00:22:00
QuoteNala confirms cheating kink: describes deriving pleasure from having sex with someone else while in a relationship.
“I've been in relationships and I'm like cheating with someone else and I'm like this is so hot”
01:46:40
ControversyHeather (Waldo) escalates conflict: accuses show of 'bad vibes,' is asked to leave by Brian, storms out.
“Vibe is so bad... you can leave get up leave okay you can leave”
01:49:15
OtherHeather (Waldo) is removed from the show ~109 minutes in. Brian confirms on stream she 'stormed out.'
“okay you can leave you can leave... damn this is a bad look oh my God”
01:51:25
QuoteMary Morgan: 'only in America' after Heather's rage quit; notes pattern of guests walking off when disagreed with.
“only in America... this is like the clip that went viral from my appearance last time is like I disagreed with a girl and then she said oh that's bad vibes”
02:03:18
QuoteNala confirms she has genuinely cheated in past exclusive relationships, not just a fantasy.
“I've lied about it... it's just having sex with someone else and then I break up with them they don't ever find out”
02:33:00
OtherBrian plays Andrew Tate clip on sex vs. emotional connection in relationships.
“let's pull up the tape clip... Tate sex”
02:34:31
QuoteAndrew Tate (video clip): argues emotional loyalty from a partner matters more than sexual skill; genuine love outweighs physical performance.
“the whole point of sex is a connection between two people and I think having a genuine connection between two people is worth more than the sex”
04:25:06
OtherPatrice O'Neal clip (video): asks women how they would keep a man if they lost their vagina. Guests respond with 'anal,' 'oral,' 'go to war.'
“ladies if you didn't have a vagina... how would you keep your man”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Guest introductions
Brian introduces show, co-host Kiki. Guests introduce themselves: Nala Ray (ahegao queen/OnlyFans), Lara (Italian/masked), Heather (student), Madison Vu (SBCC student), Lindsay (ketamine therapy), Gloria (Uber Eats/Mexico), Jonathan/MLD (YouTuber), Mary Morgan (Timcast commentator).
00:13:40
Nala Ray: lifestyle, dominant personality, cheating kink (intro)
Deep dive into Nala's alpha-female self-description, OnlyFans career, relationship history, dominant/masculine energy, sexuality, cheating kink/cuckquean fantasy. Mary challenges authenticity of Nala's persona.
00:40:00
Relationship status round & polyamory discussion
Guests share relationship statuses. Lindsay discusses Silicon Valley polyamory and three marriages that collapsed after opening up. Discussion of age and dating market.
01:06:00
Numerical ratings debate & self-ratings round
Brian asks guests to self-rate appearance 1-10. Lara objects philosophically to numerical ratings and body count as reductive. Guests give self-ratings.
01:15:00
Body count debate
Extended debate on whether body count matters in partner selection. Lara argues context matters over the number. Mary and MLD defend body count as predictive of relationship outcomes. Study citations on premarital partners and divorce rates.
01:39:00
Nala's cheating kink - extended discussion
Further interrogation of Nala's cheating fetish/cuckquean kink. Whether it is genuine or performance. Debate on her promiscuity and audience/OnlyFans relationship.
01:46:40
Heather (Waldo) rage quit
Escalating tension over Nala's cheating kink discussion. Heather accuses show of 'bad vibes.' Brian asks Heather to leave. She storms out ~109 min. Post-departure discussion on her behavior.
02:40:00
Monogamy, male cheating, and infidelity statistics
Lara argues men are biologically prone to seeking variety and >50% chance of being cheated on. MLD and Mary push back. Debate on whether promiscuity desensitizes women to relationships. Mary advocates delaying sex until commitment.
03:18:20
Weight, self-image, and dating market value
Guests share their weights. Brian rates himself 6/10. Discussion of attractiveness standards and media-distorted expectations.
03:32:00
Andrew Tate clip: sex vs. emotional connection
Brian plays Andrew Tate video clip discussing how emotional connection/loyalty matters more than sexual skill in a long-term partner.
04:24:00
Final questions & closing
Brian plays Patrice O'Neal clip asking women how they'd keep a man without a vagina. Guests respond. Show wrap-up and teaser for next Tuesday's episode (Destiny, Chase, Mary, MLD).
Transcript
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03:50:35
Larapisses me off thank God because girls are Italian because I think I think that you leave some space to the the fact that reality
03:50:46
Laracan can actually show up in a different way from the main role so you give space to that there are people that are very serious and they don't give opportunities and they're very
03:50:56
Laraaggressive because red pill actually makes you more aggressive Am I Wrong Am I Wrong because it's a reaction to the extreme toxic feminism that is
03:51:06
Laradefinitely shitty and it's a but it's the equivalent reaction so it puts on the table the same amount of toxicity I think well I I mean I disagree and I
03:51:17
TTSmean let's and then there's oh oh [ __ ] thank you man don't believe donated 200 appreciate it man there is a catch she is very intelligent and delivering Mary
03:51:29
TTSyou're our insightful and understand the significance of spiritual intimacy love to see you back on the show brickson Good show thank you man really
03:51:39
Brian Atlasappreciate the uh patronage really appreciate it yeah Mary's the goat okay um and Mary I want you to come in here in a sec on the feminism stuff but but uh I I don't think red pill is
03:51:51
Brian Atlasnecessarily the counter to feminism because because feminism is red pill is really within only within the Realms of dating really I mean many people are red
03:52:02
Brian Atlaspill look towards for example men's advocacy and and there is some co uh relation but you know the the antidote to feminism
03:52:14
Brian Atlaswell I don't know if there's an antidote to it but the opposite side of it would well I was about to say the opposite side of feminism is men's rights and men's advocacy but that's not true because um I think people who consider
03:52:26
Brian Atlasthemselves men's rights Advocates are actually much more based in reality than feminists which is uh feminism is this Dogma an ideology that's
03:52:37
Brian Atlaseven the rat bill can become an ideology a Dogma but red pill is more so related to like intersexual Dynamics and dating it's not really like feminism is like
03:52:47
Brian Atlaswage Gap and patriarchy which red pill people are happy to debunk however red pill is primarily concerned with dating but
03:52:58
Laraisn't there and I'm asking you because I'm not sure the story of the gynocracy or so that the society yeah the society the society is
03:53:08
Brian Atlasgynocentric yeah well isn't there a response to feminism in a way well gynocentric society that that's not suggesting that Society is ruled by
03:53:19
Brian Atlaswomen that would be a matriarchy right um gynocentric what what I think the term gynocentric Society is that Society in there's when it comes to the
03:53:29
Brian Atlaspatriarchy okay men are privileged in society however gynocentric society would suggest that actually we cater to women in in actuality yeah
03:53:41
Jonathan (MLD)yeah on the is that a fair yeah guys call it gynocentric social order yeah um I don't know if you I feel like I didn't Define it the red pill is basically understanding the truth of
03:53:53
Jonathan (MLD)what's going on between men and women for sexual attraction like typically guys used to think like you know women are sugar and spice and all that's nice and they can never do anything wrong and happy wife happy life and a lot of guys
03:54:04
Jonathan (MLD)have realized like those little like sayings are actually a false reality and they equivalate they uh they compare the blue pill with people who believe in that false reality but the reality is
03:54:16
Jonathan (MLD)what we see in the modern dating place today like you know women want guys of high status they're typically looking for a guy that's better than them you know those are the certain things like women look also for other things there are no mentions but right that is
03:54:29
Laraactually mentioned in the red pill too yeah like for example apart the three things what do you mean like the money status and physical attraction what else is taken into consideration
03:54:41
Jonathan (MLD)when a woman gets attraction for a man ideally they want a guy that can be have Alpha qualities and also beta qualities which is like you know Alpha seed which
03:54:53
Jonathan (MLD)is like you know providing a high quality mate high quality children and then the beta size which is like Financial provisioning ideally you want a woman wants a guy that turns around sexually and can also be like a financial provider that's all but most
03:55:05
Laraguys typically fall into one category another and that's all I mean women don't look for anything else when they look for a long-term relationship just if you can provide for my future kids
03:55:16
Larathat's enough if you are attractive enough Rich enough that's fine for me
03:55:27
Jonathan (MLD)obviously smaller ones that matter yeah but what I'm asking you only these three things there is nothing no there's a lot more the red pill is just more than three things there's there's quite a bit
03:55:37
Laraof nuance I believe you but I what I read I never see any uh mention to the mental mental uh Affinity any any mention to the psychology psychological
03:55:49
LaraAffinity any mentioned to the importance of kindness I mean if a guy's not kind with me I wouldn't I would just it just doesn't matter yeah I think you're right I think you're looking because I think like the red pill has like this surface
03:56:01
Jonathan (MLD)level identity that like women only want a high status guy who has a Rolex and a Ferrari and he's six foot tall and he's perfect he's a good looking Chad I think humanizing so so yeah I understand what
03:56:13
Jonathan (MLD)you're saying so that's not what the red pill is about but a lot of people dislike the shortcut answer is like just become a high value man or a attempt to become a high value man the real red
03:56:25
Jonathan (MLD)pillancer is talking about like what's going on with the sexual Dynamics between men and women and then there's an extreme emphasis on guys in the red pill Community to improve themselves
03:56:36
Jonathan (MLD)that's a huge component of the red belt Community is to make like I say you know it's money for guys if I get like uh summarize it it's four things money muscles game and frame right so guys
03:56:47
Jonathan (MLD)have to focus on making money making muscles is basically taking care of yourself not being fat game is understanding how to identify a good woman that is like going to be a good partner for you versus a woman who's
03:57:00
Jonathan (MLD)just using you or won't be a good partner for you and then frame is just having like an idea of boundaries and then understanding how to enforce those boundaries especially when a woman or someone else comes in your life so
03:57:10
Brian Atlasyou're not like just you know a doormat for the majority of people in your life yeah and the red the red pill it's an analogy that originates from the film The Matrix right where you take the blue pill you stay in Wonderland you take the
03:57:24
Brian Atlasred pill we see how far the rabbit hole goes taking the red pill is and often that truth is an uncomfortable Truth uh
03:57:33
Brian Atlasand so basically just rev the red pill is the truth because there's men are told just be nice just be yourself no that's definitely
03:57:44
Brian Atlasdo all this do this do that for a girl and in practice it doesn't work yeah it doesn't work women don't reward these sort of traditional courtship things
03:57:55
Laraanymore I I understand that and I definitely think that there is a big part of reality that is actually explained pretty well by rat bill and I even when I heard these theories myself
03:58:07
Larathe first time I realized that it's true I mean I care about money I care about status I care about attractive like the physical attractiveness uh the problem
03:58:18
Larawith me is that there is a the way is usually framed and and spoken also in the like fresh and fit or whatever I mean not whatever but friendship fit
03:58:29
Laraum it's like the the short version of it I would say at this point the short version in which you women are dehumanized and also men so that we are genetic machines that we want just that
03:58:40
Larawe are driven by a biological Instinct only there is no psychology in these creatures we are like monkeys basically so that a man look for looks for a younger woman because she's more fertile
03:58:52
LaraI mean are you a monkey are you going to mate with your gorilla mate I mean what's so funny about that is when they're referring to those men those are the men who would it's their absolute nightmare to impregnate one of those
03:59:04
Larawomen so like it's not really about reproduction it's never to be honest almost never about reproduction because they're not thinking I'm going to have your kids like not right away at least
03:59:15
Brian Atlasyeah but you're it's always so funny whenever we bring up the fertility thing yeah or or uh the paternity uncertainty component to it why are women attracted to men who are
03:59:28
Brian Atlastall yeah I mean it has it has an evolutionary component a man being tall has absolutely no bearing on his really on his like physical attractiveness like
03:59:41
Brian Atlashe could still have a handsome face he could be fit it comes down to survival women back in the day if a guy was physically big physically large physically strong that communicates he's more capable of protecting you and
03:59:55
Brian Atlasproviding for you so it has an evolutionary basis it's also not fun to feel
04:00:05
Brian Atlaswhy is that what is that feeling does it have an evolutionary basis because maybe you don't feel secure yeah and but but do men look for security from their female Partners but
04:00:18
Brian Atlasin a different way I'd say more no but but we're talking no but we're talking about we're talking about physical safety here men don't look for safety in from women
04:00:27
Larano yeah right so that has an evolutionary basis yeah definitely fine but but irrational like you like to talk about the rational
04:00:38
Laraman like the ever it's irrational because it's not nowadays I don't need to look for the tall guys because I don't need to be protected by the law you don't need to you don't maybe you've specifically you
04:00:51
Laradon't need to that we have a choice like psychologically we can contrast and if given the choice most women would not date a man who's shorter than her they
04:01:00
Lindsayare mediocre probably what probably the men the men are mediocre the women I mean women they are women are mediocre no women they're only no women
04:01:11
Lindsaywith a six foot standard fine but what I'm saying is that when you are so you would exclude a guy that you like that would would be able to fit with you if you would I mean answer his question I could downplay a lot of what you're
04:01:24
Lindsaysaying right now and it's what I'm seeing in this area women are giving up sex very easily here and these are young young women because they want to feel there is super easy
04:01:35
Lindsaythere is more women in this area than men that's what's driving a lot of this casual sex yeah so women feel in competition with one
04:01:44
Lindsayanother they're giving up sex is sacred in my opinion men have this I have my pick of the litter closer to the mic please I have this I have the pick of the litter
04:01:58
Lindsaymen aren't being held to a standard that they once were held to so what he's trying to say is the red
04:02:06
Lindsaypill is encouraging men to be these Alpha hold yourself accountable stoicism all that kind of stuff because women have really lowered the bar wow
04:02:20
Brian Atlasand I get nervous on my kids no but so we we were you did a great job okay we were specifically talking about height here would you date a guy who's
04:02:30
Brian Atlasshorter than you I have I have twice is that Optimum because you you literally just set up two minutes you literally just said two minutes ago you don't want to feel small as a woman yeah
04:02:40
Lindsaythat's what my issue was so you have I am an insecure woman so I speak for a lot of women because it stems from when I was in my early 20s
04:02:52
Gloriawhat about you do you would you date a guy who's shorter than you I have dated someone but um deep down I feel like something was missing that I didn't feel safe I don't
04:03:04
Gloriamaybe was in conscience but here can you scoot your mic that way for me please okay there you go that's good so I will yes
04:03:14
Brian Atlasbut at the same time I do like to feel safe so I maybe that's my relationship correct yes how long have you been dating one you said uh one year and a half one year and a half yeah how tall is he
04:03:27
Gloriaum is he taller than you yeah he's like this how tall are you uh five seven how tall is he six something MMA guys are short yeah yeah
04:03:39
Brian Atlaswhat Jiu Jitsu guys are short I used to work at Gracie Baja you're right a guy a guy who's five foot seven who's a black belt in Jiu Jitsu or an MMA guy is
04:03:50
Brian Atlasmuch more capable of Defending you than a six foot guy who's had no martial arts training um okay how tall is you said you're not you've been dating a guy for nine months how tall is he
04:04:04
Laraoh there it is there it is dated guys they were even like Heights High Like Me shorts like me sure but your current boyfriend is six feet you
04:04:16
Laraguys they were six feet yeah but I mean that's cool I swear I swear it's not related with that I was not looking for a relationship some years ago that's the point that's that's fair enough but six
04:04:27
Brian Atlasfeet is two inches above the uh average male height in the United States so it happened it's convenient for you to say well I don't really care about that yet your boyfriend is six feet tall I've
04:04:37
Larabeen attracted by men that were shorter and because that's fine I mean it's definitely women are also worried about the short man complex fair enough the point the point I'm
04:04:48
Brian Atlastrying the point I'm trying to make is generally speaking look not all women however most women have a fairly strong preference to date a guy who's tall yeah
04:05:00
Nala Rayyeah I want their children or it might just be more maternal instinct expected that because they want their kid their boy their whatever to have those kinds of genetics right I think
04:05:13
Mary Morganthat like we're not discounting the fact that evolutionary psychology plays into dating preferences I think we're all on the same page right yeah okay that plays into it but it's not the only thing and then
04:05:24
Mary Morganthat this idea that we're just like electrified meat sacks has only contributed more to the problems that we're facing in modern dating culture
04:05:34
Mary Morganright now specifically that everyone's not committing we're not seeing two bodies just basically masturbating with one yeah exactly yeah and and you know
04:05:46
Mary Morganwhat um birth control is a huge uh agreed part of that agreed taking the entire risk yeah out of I don't know having sex yeah taking taking the risk out of them
04:05:58
Mary Morganwhen a woman creates birth control she'll actually lose some attraction yeah the man her attractions so she's she's attracted to higher T guys after
04:06:08
Brian Atlasshe is off yeah she just shook me a little because like wow no because what I have heard that birth control will make women more attracted to guys who are a bit more feminine but it's because
04:06:19
Mary Morganwhen you're on hormonal birth control your body basically is behaving as if you're pregnant so you're looking for a guy who is more more nurturing lower T slightly who is able to protect you and
04:06:32
Mary Morganprovide for you while you're in this vulnerable state of pregnancy and women can be on hormonal birth control for years and years at a time your body thinks it's pregnant for years and years at a time you're emotionally
04:06:43
Mary Morgandysregulated you have weight problems digestion problems yeah hormonal acne stuff like that um yeah yeah and it gives you basically a fake period which is not a period
04:06:55
Mary Morganbecause you're not ovulating um yeah and it's a huge problem I think morally as well a lot of people would disagree with this but it's taken all of the moral hazard out of a high risk activity
04:07:07
Mary Morganwhich is casual sex yeah oh yeah so unless we somehow make birth control uh I don't know socially stigmatized if not
04:07:17
Mary Morganin my ideal World illegal then we're gonna stay in this mess we're gonna stay sitting in our dirty diapers free chat be free yeah I took off
04:07:28
Mary Morganmembers only mode so you guys can all jump in now um word I the thing is though is like there's no way that at least the cat's out of the bag right yeah so that's where I get so black
04:07:39
Lindsaypilled with modern dating is like as long as we have birth control we're kind of screwed like he's driving all the wrists out of us for these standards though do you think
04:07:51
Lindsayit's men because I hear Men actually trying to stay uh step up and take accountability and women here are loud I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this and I still haven't brought up the whole
04:08:03
Lindsaything we talked about with that Facebook group but the women population here we can we'll talk about that yeah it's very loud with man hating they don't want the patriarchy they
04:08:16
Mary Morgandon't want go start your own thing then let me know how that works out for you yeah I mean this this what we're living in right now is is how it worked out for us yeah and no I don't think anybody is satisfied with this no no I mean the problem is women the the market is
04:08:28
Jonathan (MLD)flooded with [ __ ] that's the bottom line it's just flooded with [ __ ] and like girls do girls go out with a guy like on a Starbucks date and and you know he's raw dawging in her like an hour later you know first time meeting there like
04:08:40
Mary Morganknowing the guy within one to two hours it's because because we're connection and closeness from sex and it's this similar chakra of it that they get from hotels
04:08:52
Lindsaywell men are are pursuing the Big O from the woman a lot of men say that that they get off when the woman gets off but a lot of women are faking it because they want the feeling of the man
04:09:04
Mary Morganchoosing them thinking if I give him the sex and fake the orgasm he'll pick me [ __ ] that's terrible don't face don't fake orgasms ladies don't fake I don't know who is telling
04:09:15
Mary Morganwomen that having casual sex will make a man commit to them movies the feminists why the hell
04:09:26
Mary Morgandesired for a man to commit to you so where does it come from this maybe they don't want to have a relationship just they want to have sex many women no I mean think about the reasons that women want to have sex though it's not just
04:09:38
Larapleasure yeah it's what Andrew Tate was just talking about in that clip it's a deeper connection men are looking forward to it but there are many it depends also on what is your age like many guys like many
04:09:50
Laraundergraduates here they just hook ups men and women and they're not really looking for sex that's because usually that's all I really analyze their own motivations there is more freedom do they really think about their own
04:10:02
Laramotivations for promiscuous sex freedom is a problem I don't know about that I wouldn't I would never want to go they have everything in their plate now so we were already exclusive because birth
04:10:14
Mary Morgancontrol was possible controls in the 60s no that started in the 20s I I don't understand what's the problem with the birth and it was normalized especially with
04:10:24
Mary Morganum even like Pastor families where the dad is a pastor the mom is she she takes birth control because it's part of their image like birth control hormonal birth
04:10:37
Mary Morgancontrol didn't come around until the 60s no 1920. it was in the 20s and also Planned Parenthood was founded before the 60s that was nice in the 20s
04:10:49
Mary Morganshouldn't be any birth control well that's that's you don't want to talk about that so we'll leave that off the table but like yeah next time next next show next show but uh I won't be here
04:10:59
Mary Morganyou know what feminism existed before birth control in the 1800s Seneca Falls Convention Big L and if you want to go all the way back you can talk about the Industrial Revolution which disrupted
04:11:11
Mary Morganthe home and if you want to go back even further we just talked about the enlightenment let's go back go and then if you want to go back before that let's go back to [ __ ] oh really abolish the printing
04:11:23
Lindsaylet's go back to mesopotamia's son I sound schizophrenic right now but I don't care Don have you read that sex had done no oh that goes bad okay
04:11:34
Jonathan (MLD)um what's the problem okay so the printing press is what made that's where it all started let me hold on hold on let me just make this more relevant to today's times so
04:11:48
Jonathan (MLD)basically like in America everything's like women are so hypersexualized here everything you hear like women actually have shame in other countries like not to like put pictures
04:11:58
Jonathan (MLD)of themselves revealing everything on their Instagram like there is a giant sway from like this culture having like modesty and just having like a healthy relationship with shame to this like
04:12:10
Jonathan (MLD)Shameless culture where like if you don't agree with everything that I want it's because you're a terrible bad person and it's like no sometimes you just have [ __ ] [ __ ] ideas and like some of these girls they're hoes and
04:12:21
Jonathan (MLD)they're like no I'm just like a sapiosexual or whatever [ __ ] crazy term they need to make up to like justify the fact that they just want to get [ __ ] by a lot of bunch of dudes so
04:12:32
Jonathan (MLD)the reality is like these girls they want men to change the you know getting the like problems with the dating culture off of my chest it's that American women their standards for men
04:12:42
Nala Rayare way too high and American men their Spanish women are way too [ __ ] you want to know why I feel like who's the fault so I'm sorry I feel like it's because women have become way more
04:12:52
Nala Rayindependent and we feel as though we may not need that man in our lives that provides because we're providing for ourselves we've became more selective yeah but how's that working out for these women who are like crying when
04:13:04
Jonathan (MLD)they're on top I don't know about you no I'm not talking about you because you're happy and you're young and pretty now but you're not gonna be young and pretty forever thank you like that's gonna that's gonna disappear eventually I'm excited for the challenge of
04:13:17
Larasay that you say that but I don't think any woman looks forward to being older but you know if men more wise I know that I say something that is banal it's obvious but it's man lowing down their style why are their younger men well no
04:13:30
Larait doesn't need to be one or the other who is at fault everyone is but the problem is that this situation men even contributed to creative but if listen if women listen no no
04:13:42
Jonathan (MLD)women set the bar for sexual acts wait hold on hold on yeah sure women set the bar for sexual access period if every woman in America said I'm not gonna [ __ ] have sex with the man unless he
04:13:52
Jonathan (MLD)wears a suit they would be [ __ ] suits sold out across this nation every dude would be wearing a suit no like or I mean anything because women really do set the tone like guys that's why there
04:14:05
Jonathan (MLD)are simps right now just hold on just calm down come let me make my point okay that's why we have simp culture why women say I'm not gonna talk to you unless you give me 50 bucks
04:14:16
Jonathan (MLD)I never said that I will talk to you yeah that's your business model okay listen I know just relax just relax that is your business model that's a lot of
04:14:25
Jonathan (MLD)only fan girls business model okay they say to these guys okay you have to pay then I'll talk to you you have to do this then I'll talk to you so they set the standard so the standard right now
04:14:37
Jonathan (MLD)for dating is 100 due to women's actions and the women are the ones giving out [ __ ] like it's [ __ ] water it's for free and then that's what these guys like well guess what if if a guy's you know at the top of the totem pole too
04:14:49
Jonathan (MLD)and all these girls just like easily giving him [ __ ] why is he gonna change he's like no I'm not going to change these curls give it to me within the first couple hours of meeting me and then you don't see the girl again like someone like me you might not like see
04:15:01
Laraagain because I don't give a [ __ ] about you you would do that to me oh to you Brian are still those that decide that women have the power on sex over sex it's
04:15:13
Larastill a thing that is decided by imagine it's just the reality I mean not this not decided in the literal sense of the word but in what I mean is that it's something that man contributes to create
04:15:23
Mary Morganin a way yeah can we I would say like men definitely possibility for casual sex being the norm hookup culture being the norm now yeah I mean I think I would say that I
04:15:33
Jonathan (MLD)have a solution for that but I see that but the solution has to it does have to start with women gatekeeping sex yeah they give it up so you guys
04:15:44
Mary Morganlike to certain things what are the motivations for women who are giving it up too easy what what is going on in them like psychologically emotionally and spiritually that makes them give it
04:15:56
Mary Morganup up so easy and why are there some women who don't because you have a whole culture there are a lot of men failing them there are a lot of fathers failing their daughters I agree I agree but when it comes back to that then who's the one
04:16:08
Mary Morganinitiating these divorces in those broken households it doesn't necessarily even have to be a broken household there are a lot of fathers who just emotionally fail their daughters and don't affirm
04:16:19
Jonathan (MLD)them as they're growing up and it's bad for their confidence I mean I'm sure that's enough that's a very basic I don't think it's a niche problem I think it's a very it's a very Niche example okay but when you have the majority of
04:16:30
Jonathan (MLD)households being destroyed in America totally by women initiating these divorces and then what do they do typically they divorce the father and then they demonize the father to the kids every day telling kid like your dad was a bad guy and all this [ __ ] and then
04:16:43
Jonathan (MLD)they keep the kids like nine times out of ten too she's gonna fight for custody and she's going to want to keep the father away so she can have like more child support and all those things so then on top of that you have a woman who
04:16:55
Jonathan (MLD)is a mother now keeping the kid away from the father as well and then the kid thinks like oh my dad abandoned me then they have you know and then it's become daddy issues like it's a it's a joke in America like oh why is that girl so easy
04:17:07
Mary Morganshe has daddy issues right I totally understand that problem but then also look at the fact that people aren't even getting married anymore for the divorces to happen right so there are a lot of deadbeat dads and deadbeat moms out
04:17:20
Jonathan (MLD)there I totally I agree on what you just said is a problem guys are not the number one reason guys are not getting married is because the divorce laws are crazy no guy wants to lose 50 of his stuff I don't think they're even thinking about it like that they are
04:17:32
Lindsaythey are I don't think a lot of guys are even educated on that topic women used to hold the bar women used to get your sex Mary you said this women used to only give sex if the man would marry
04:17:43
Lindsayright then birth control came along yep so now women are not holding the bar and so men are getting the sex for free so that's why men are not wanting to marry just
04:17:54
Lindsayapply and demand it's common marketing so is it about divorce and courts or dropping the ball about women's standards being lower is it or is it both I do want to say when this is
04:18:06
Lindsaysomething there are a lot of younger men here who want to date older women and we haven't touched on this at all cougars no not the cougar thing I did the 45 year old one my mom is seven years older than my dad and they're still together
04:18:18
Lindsaythey're happy and everyone say it's rare so wait what did you want to touch on
04:18:33
Larayeah that's because many men actually have ideas for about uh older women so [ __ ] yeah I mean yeah otherwise why would you create a whole erotic category
04:18:44
Kiki (co-host)called MILF you know men create all kinds of yeah they'll find a reason yeah yeah well you you dated at 45 years old so
04:19:00
Brian Atlasin my defense she's never had kids no kids right so yeah you said that stupid and still good she was I don't know this is gonna get
04:19:12
Lindsayme canceled I don't know if I should say it you don't have to let's just say justify anything let's just say she didn't raisin does he mean oh the skin yeah her skin didn't rise
04:19:29
Brian Atlasmy parents live in the south okay um here let me let me we gotta I want to wrap up soon here so um is it'll do a break or if a guy won't go down on
04:19:39
Nala Rayyou no it's not I love writing dick like it feels great like just the dick inside like just what does he have to like eat you out I mean I I know it's super controversial but I just not a family no
04:19:51
Laraone's like ever eating me out so good I'm like yep gotta have that every [ __ ] time based let's [ __ ] go okay well my answer is a bummer compared to hers well
04:20:03
Brian AtlasI would teach him he should do it no he should do it no but let's say he just he doesn't enjoy doing it he's not gonna do it is it the deal breaker uh it depends on the whole context but
04:20:15
Larait might be it might I'd say it has like a neck injury like you cannot do it like he's got a neck injury was cut okay what the [ __ ] no it's like his neck's all [ __ ] and
04:20:27
Lindsayhe just doesn't he doesn't like to do it you know all right what about you deal breaker a lot of men aren't really good at it that's what I'm saying well let's it's a deal breaker though no
04:20:40
Brian AtlasI'm saying it's not a deal breaker for me deal breaker no um Harry I'm not gonna even do that
04:20:48
Brian Atlasthat's fine that's totally fine uh okay good times good to know okay um you last thing you wanted to bring up the Facebook thing yeah so you're in
04:21:01
Brian AtlasSanta Barbara there's this phenomenon called the the are we dating the same guy and these are Facebook pages that are populated
04:21:10
Brian Atlasprimarily by well exclusively exclusively by women and they post men they'll post photos they'll post biographical information and uh and I've heard from people about this
04:21:23
Brian Atlasand honestly that my understanding is they're quite toxic it happens to be the case that you saw me posted on one of these groups so what did you want to say about these groups
04:21:34
LindsayI believe the intention for it started out good it was saving women who were on the apps from some really bad men or men that were playing the field which men are going to do that unless you have
04:21:47
Lindsaya conversation with them about it and that respect what I was witness to and the only reason I'm talking about it is because I got kicked out because I was quote unquote defending men I wasn't just
04:21:59
Lindsaybashing men the the topics really were about height yes a lot of women five two saying they will not date anyone under six foot I
04:22:11
Lindsaystood up for men in that what you've been talking a lot about money how much money should a man make this is all the toxicity and the feminine woman side that I saw and I was
04:22:23
Lindsaytrying to be a little red pill I guess I don't really know what red pill is either it's outside the Matrix and I got kicked out of this group of women because of what I was like let's [ __ ]
04:22:34
Brian Atlasgo well I've I've heard from so many men so many men will message me I've seen posts on forums about these groups and while I think the initial intention as
04:22:46
Brian Atlasyou said was to perhaps protect women from really toxic men what it devolved into was basically just man bashing chicks would just post dudes there going
04:22:57
Brian Atlason with doxing addresses and phone numbers doxing employers lying about men false accusations it's crazy it's just bullying also like how you know if you
04:23:09
Brian Atlaswent on a date with someone and like look sometimes how often is it the case that if you broke up with someone look
04:23:19
Brian Atlassometimes an ex just doesn't like you yeah like they're not gonna say positive things about you you know one woman wanted us to look at a
04:23:30
Lindsayphotograph to see if her ex had someone else in his car and these are women that also have never had the conversation with a man if it was exclusive yep that's another big problem here there
04:23:42
Lindsayare tons of women sleeping with men thinking it's exclusive and that the magic situation yeah that was so many of them and I was trying to empower these women like do better but a lot of women
04:23:54
Brian Atlasdon't want to take accountability word word um okay let's uh I think we should wrap up here um did we do the chat should we do the Patrice clip yes or no let's do the Patrice clip
04:24:07
Nala Rayum it's time to go to In and Out what are you what are you getting me oh double double no onions with fries okay but like I went like
04:24:19
Nala Raythat wait I thought you had to give 500 I do but for a [ __ ] in and out seems like a fair trade right here yes yes wait can you do it right now it was
04:24:31
Brian Atlasstreamlabs.com whatever put in your credit card information you're lying no I will take you on the most romantic it's been worth 500 I will take you on the most romantic date to in and out right now if you donate five hundred
04:24:43
Brian Atlasdollars be the most bro get you what you want girl vanilla shake [ __ ] french fries I got you it's done I want a lot of things Brian hopefully not 500 worth I'm gonna make if you
04:24:56
Brian Atlasorder 500 worth of food I'm gonna make you eat it and then you'll be obese and then your only Fan's career is Hey listen still going strong still going strong uh okay do we have the uh Patrice what the
04:25:11
Patrice O'Neal (clip)okay uh go forward
04:25:18
Patrice O'Neal (clip)okay ladies if you didn't have a vagina like say it was a terrible train accident right and the doctor was like we have to remove your [ __ ] right away
04:25:31
Patrice O'Neal (clip)or you're gonna die how would you keep your man past you get a two-month guilty I can't leave the [ __ ] right away because you just lost [ __ ] to train action
04:25:47
Patrice O'Neal (clip)can't just walk right out on him
04:25:53
Patrice O'Neal (clip)how would you keep your man pass that if you did not Regina
04:26:01
Nala Rayanal
04:26:05
LaraGod I wouldn't I don't know terrible train accident I wouldn't give him I don't know I don't know what what would you do to keep your man though well probably what she said at that point you do and also oral you
04:26:18
Lindsayhave that's fair what about you go to war for him go to work war war um my idea of a power couple is two people who go to war for each other wow all right okay all right real partner
04:26:32
Brian Atlaswhat about you what do you do to keep your mind same the anal or the war the war the war the war uh Mary
04:26:43
Mary Morgan[Applause] I'm like currently in a relationship and I don't she's already doing it I'm already keeping him I guess so I don't know the last time I said like become a good
04:26:54
Mary Morgancook but I I don't know I think it's just about being a pleasant warm presence sure sure okay good um let's play the rest of the clip
04:27:08
Patrice O'Neal (clip)wow nothing you can talk you can talk
04:27:16
Patrice O'Neal (clip)suck his dick okay mouth
04:27:22
Patrice O'Neal (clip)[ __ ] okay great now I've been getting [ __ ] being the whole show right but I give women an opportunity to say I'm going to make myself worth more but you just
04:27:33
Patrice O'Neal (clip)classified yourself as a series of holes but you know um [Applause] I'm supposed to teaching especially but you just a bunch of hoes to yourself
04:27:45
Patrice O'Neal (clip)[Applause] no one said learn how to play Xbox and learn how to play pool tell better stories get another [ __ ] that got a [ __ ] to come on in
04:27:57
Patrice O'Neal (clip)wow look whatever
04:28:04
Nala Rayyou got anything to say um I don't want to partner so I really don't care about maintaining somebody so it really doesn't what how can you say that well I love sex so if I could
04:28:14
Nala Rayplease you and like really what is it that men want they want to eat they want to sleep they want to come what else
04:28:24
Mary Morganhuh I can cook so really how about loyalty okay can't they do all those things alone what they can do all
04:28:34
Mary Morganof those things alone anally what the [ __ ] what huh you said they wanna eat come and sleep they can do all those things a lot they absolutely could so what does a woman bring to the table it has everything to do with the question
04:28:46
Nala Raylike if you lost your [ __ ] what would you do to keep your man if they can do that by themselves why am I in the picture we'll answer the question I just did anally where uh do you have a response to the
04:28:57
LaraPatrice clip since he kind of gotcha there are men need sex right so I would try to find a way to satisfy him sexually even without [ __ ] so that's why I was thinking about that and I was not thinking about cooking or all this
04:29:10
Larathat's what I'm saying that doesn't make or or X like PlayStation power couple is Brian and redhead how much I think you out earned me so I don't know
04:29:20
Brian Atlasyou make a lot daddy Brian the [ __ ] please never never call me Daddy please I do not like to be called Daddy really Bobby Master how about no I'm kidding
04:29:30
Brian Atlasthat's hot okay sir works too I guess um Okay so twitch let's shout out twitch and let's wrap the show
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04:30:52
Brian AtlasI I feel like I had a question for you but [ __ ] it's slipping my mind it was uh toxic feminism toxicity feminism all right okay guys
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04:31:42
Brian Atlasshe had to leave around 10 p.m so uh that's all good but uh yeah lawyers Waldo she did not last long and she almost took you with her oh no I make my own
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Brian Atlasdecisions well yeah it was less than an hour right I don't I don't think she lasted very long maybe an hour hour and a half or something but I thought you were gonna leave honestly at one point that I'd be comfortable huh I'm pretty
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04:32:28
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Brian Atlasyou know from from all labia matter to BLM BLM I'm a uh I'm an activist okay uh
04:32:50
Brian Atlasguys we have a [ __ ] amazing show on Tuesday Mary's going to be there John's going to be there [ __ ] Kiki is going to be there um but we know that
04:33:03
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