She Is Dating 7 NBA Players?! | Dating Talk #71

Date: 2023-05-03

Duration: 5h 05m

Guests

Brian Atlas

GGiselle (DT71)>

RRihanna (DT71)>

DDestiny (DT71)>

NNBA Girl (DT71)>

AAbelinaria (DT71)>

LLauren De Laguna >

JJohn (It's Complicated)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02NBA Girl (DT71)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Giselle (Al)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lauren De Laguna(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Andrew Tate (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_08John(guest)

SPEAKER_09Xenia(guest)

SPEAKER_10Rihanna(guest)

SPEAKER_11Abelinaria(guest)

SPEAKER_12Destiny(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kelly(guest)

Key Moments

Key MomentNBA girl describes car chase after catching situationship "Jose" with a blonde woman in a black Dodge Charger

“"I was going to my sister's and... I see him a lot of guys with him... I'm getting out of the car I'm running up there... we drove all the way to his apartments and he pulled out at the same time so we're just like side by side"”

QuoteNBA girl reveals she is currently talking to 7+ professional athletes (NBA, college, NFL)

“"I like athletes so it's um a little difficult for me... I'm leaning a lot towards basketball players right now... there's four... Cavs, Milwaukee Bucks, Pistons... two that's about to go into the draft... couple football players"”

QuoteNBA girl was dating guys from Indiana Pacers and Milwaukee Bucks simultaneously during a game they played each other

“"I have had guys from... Indiana Pacers when they was playing against the Bucks... I wasn't seeing them at the same [time]"”

QuoteNBA girl states minimum income requirement of $100K/year

“"I would say for like a yearly or like monthly like a year salary probably at least like a hundred thousand a year"”

Key MomentBrian argues women are able to move in circles above their socioeconomic level while NBA girl doesn't realize the alpha widow risk

“"you are now accustomed to a certain caliber of man... NBA player tall good looking wealthy high social status... the normal a travel phlebotomist isn't appealing to you anymore... I honestly think you're going to be really unhappy in a future relationship"”

Key MomentBrian runs the delusion calculator for NBA girl — 2.5% of men meet her criteria (age 20-40, 5'8"+, $100K+)

“"that's 2.5 percent... 2.5 percent of men between the ages of 20 to 40 who are five eight and above who make 100K or more"”

QuoteNBA girl says she is attracted to men with an intense "crazy look" (dark energy)

“"I like me a sexy forehead... but I don't know like you know when certain people got that like crazy look... like when they give you just look at them and you're just like yeah it looks a little crazy"”

QuoteKelly ate a ketchup packet on stream — first ketchup in ~20 years

“[Applause] "it's good for you for overstepping your fears" — Kelly ate a Heinz ketchup packet live, first ketchup since approximately age 3”

QuoteLauren refuses to give body count (parents watching), only admits it is non-zero

“"it's not zero and I wish it was and my parents are watching and just the fact that I even admit that it's not zero I think is enough shame for my father for tonight"”

QuoteGiselle declines romantic offer from chat viewer and explains she is focused on becoming the perfect wife before dating

“"I'm not accepting anyone at the moment or seeing anyone at the moment because I want to focus on getting myself to the best place that I can be to be the perfect wife one day"”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show from Santa Barbara, plugs Streamlabs, Twitch, merch. Guests introduce themselves: Giselle/Al (22, Twitch streamer), Rihanna (21, waitress), Destiny (21, artist/lash tech/OnlyFans from Oklahoma), 19yo NBA girl (LBC, phlebotomist/OnlyFans), Kelly (21, student/Nordstrom stylist), Abelinaria (25, SMC student/startup), Xenia (25, UCLA tech, from Russia), Lauren De Laguna (29, content creator/attorney), John (44, It's Complicated YouTube channel).

Relationship Status & Background Round

Guests share relationship statuses. Lauren: single, no official boyfriend ever, 2.5yr on-off NY situationship. John: single 6+ years, against marriage. Kelly: in relationship 1yr 4mo. Abelinaria: in relationship 1yr 4mo. Xenia: in relationship 2.5 years. Destiny: unknown/single. Giselle: single, longest 1yr. Rihanna: unclear. NBA girl: single after trifling situationship ("Jose" incident — car chase after catching him with blonde woman).

NBA Girl's Athletic Roster

Extended discussion about 19yo NBA girl simultaneously talking to 7+ professional athletes (4 NBA: Cavaliers, Bucks, Pistons; 2 college draft prospects; 1 NFL/formerly Jets). Flew to California by an NBA player. Goes to Ohio every other month. Minimum requirement: $100K/year. OK sharing a high-value man. Chat comments and super chats react strongly (calling her a "304"). Discussed whether athletes are "easy" to attract for attractive women. Car chase story about trifling situationship Jose.

Blue Check Marks & Instagram as Dating App

Discussion of famous/verified people sliding into DMs. Kelly has gotten athlete DMs. NBA girl gets regular athlete attention. Discussion of whether Instagram functions as a dating app. Kelly doesn't prominently post her boyfriend. Brian reads tweet about "women running passive game" — women market while men sell. Debate on whether Instagram strategy is keeping options open. Would guests go out to clubs/bars if boyfriend said no? Debate on possessiveness vs protection. Women's passive dating strategy (marketing) vs men's active approach (selling).

Share a High-Value Man vs. Monogamy with Average Man

Would you rather share a famous/wealthy man (as main chick) or have monogamy from an average man? NBA girl: OK sharing as long as taken care of and doesn't find out. Destiny/Giselle: prefer known arrangement or don't want at all. Kelly: prefers monogamy. Abelinaria: prefers monogamy. Xenia: prefers monogamy, wouldn't share. Lauren: reframes — doesn't care about income, wants good father material. John: asks about celebrity crush exception. Debate on whether women make "no rules for the wrong guy, break rules for the right guy."

Male Income Requirements & Delusion Calculator

NBA girl states minimum income $100K/year. Only ~17% of US men make $100K+. Brian runs the female delusion calculator: age 20-40, 5'8"+, not obese, no race preference, $100K+ income = 2.5% of men available. Discussion of whether women's standards are delusional relative to their own attractiveness. Brian argues the average man makes ~$40-45K. Lauren argues she doesn't care about income/education — values ambition and effort over credentials. Kelly says once kids come into play, income matters.

Instagram Behavior, Clubs & Monogamy

Brian reads tweet about women running "passive game" as marketers vs men as salesmen. Would guests stop going to bars/clubs if boyfriend asked? Kelly: yes (would comply); NBA girl: no; Lauren: doesn't go out; Abelinaria: same as Lauren; Xenia: doesn't like clubs. Is it controlling for a man to not want girlfriend at clubs? Most say slightly controlling unless she goes every day. Debate on jealousy as a turn-on. Giselle explains she likes knowing boyfriend cares about her whereabouts. Kelly states she complies because it's the relationship.

Self-Rating Round

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Giselle: 4-5 (corrected from higher; significant past trauma, bullied, sister more complimented). Rihanna: ~6. Destiny: dim sum girl 6 (by chat). Kelly: declined (private/boyfriend watching). Abelinaria: 8-9 in Columbus Ohio. Xenia: 7-8 (mood-dependent). Lauren: 5-7 (Idaho: 3, LA: 7). John: 6-7 (Tony Hawk doppelganger). Brian: 6 (6.9 on a good day). Chat viewer from Quebec gives official ratings: Latina black pink 9, Latina black pink 9.5, humble Silent Bob 7, art major sniffles 6.5, Rookie of the Year 7.5, dim sum girl 6, Babushka's granddaughter 8, Brian's hot lawyer sister 8, Tony Hawk 7, Brian Atlas 7.5.

Women's Dating Standards vs. Their Own Value

Extended debate on whether women's high standards are realistic. Lauren rates herself 5-7 but wants a Gaston-type man (muscles, jawline, discipline, 5x/week gym). Brian argues Lauren is shooting for an 8-10 while rating herself 6-7. Discussion of percentage of men women find attractive (Lauren: very small — wants masculinity, most men lack testosterone). Debate on whether women's standards requiring men to be more masculine while women becoming more masculine is a double standard. Discussion of beauty standards for men (need to be gym-rat chiseled) vs women (just need to be slim/curvy).

Oral Sex, HPV & Cancer Discussion

Brian asks if it's a deal breaker if a man doesn't go down. Most say no. Discussion of news articles about oral sex being the leading risk factor for throat cancer (HPV/oropharyngeal cancer). Michael Douglas throat cancer connection referenced. Chat reacts. Brief discussion of whether you can trace cancer type to origin.

Weird Things That Are Attractive

Round on unexpected things each guest finds attractive. NBA girl: men with intense/crazy eyes (dark energy, not actual criminals). Destiny: men who are intensely assertive/Dom. Rihanna: facial hair and how they dress. Kelly: men who do physical tasks entirely alone without asking for help (moving heavy furniture alone). Abelinaria: assertiveness and a man who controls everything. Xenia: men who cook with passion. Lauren: men who are strong at math. John: asked the round question.

Body Count Discussion

Show of hands on whether body count matters. Most women initially say no. Brian argues pair bonding and screening rationale. John raises the hypocrisy of men shaming women for BC while also complaining about difficulty getting laid. Brian distinction: some women are "recreational use only" and some are "wife material." Round: Destiny: 5; NBA girl: 17; Kelly: private; Abelinaria: 12; Xenia: 17; Giselle: 10-20 range; Lauren: non-zero (refused to say, parents watching); Brian: 6. Brian says multiply by 3 for real number. Discussion of pair bonding science.

Andrew Tate Clip — Submissiveness Discussion

Brian plays Andrew Tate clip about wanting a maximally submissive woman like a robot. Lauren: partially agrees but men don't literally want robots. Xenia: agrees in principle, scary to want robots from loved ones. Abelinaria: interprets it as wanting consistent obedience (not literal robot). Kelly: strongly agrees — submissiveness works in women's favor; nagging destroys relationships. NBA girl: agrees it goes both ways — both should prove themselves. Giselle: agrees with sentiment but wording went too far. Discussion of "brat" archetype in BDSM vs conditional femininity. John: raises "conditional femininity" concept — women unlock femininity for the right dominant man.

Transcript

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Kellyboyfriend and then they don't try again well sometimes they will try again but then it's always like period I have a boyfriend I'm not I know that I'm not going to do anything else with other guys so and he knows that as well and he

Kellyknows that I use social media as a way to keep connections I don't like giving people my number I never give people my number so I'm like into the mic what other um what other what other better way to do

Brian Atlasit is from Instagram here we're going to pull up something that's kind of related to this then we're going to get into the soup chats um Eric can you pull up the Twitter page uh you're gonna have to control mouse wheel up okay

Brian Atlasyeah that's good so women run passive game they don't approach men but they put themselves in positions where they could be approached by men they won't DM a man but they'll post pictures to lure

Brian Atlashim into dming them mainstream media doesn't want you to know this scroll down Eric men are salesmen women are marketers but most guys are too naive and lack the capacity for nuanced thinking to be able to

Brian Atlasidentify this distinction in a committed relationship a man should stop pitching and a woman a woman should stop advertising Fair proposition but most men are fooled into believing that just because their woman isn't also

Brian Atlasinitiating conversations with other men then everything is good she was never initiating conversations that's now not how she operates we utilize different

Brian Atlasstrategies to get similar outcomes you stop talking to women and gave up your Edge as a man but she never stopped putting herself out there that's why she already had a replacement for you after

Brian Atlasthe breakup because she never stopped marketing she was generating leads the whole time a lion and a rhino are about to fight and the lion tells the Rhino take off your horn so that we can have a fair fight since I don't have a horn the

Brian AtlasRhino foolishly agrees fight begins and he gets torn to shreds by the lion because the lion used his teeth and Claws your foot you're the foolish lie or excuse me you're the foolish Rhino women are the Lion a lion and a rhino

Brian Atlasare not the same so they can't play by the same rules if the Rhino takes off his horn then the line will need to remove its teeth and Claws you both have to give up your Edge to even the playing field in regards to the situation with

Brian Atlasmy ex I know you may be thinking so what if she was at the I think this is related to something else um okay grocery store that's totally different from her intentionally walking into the lines down the club this is a

Brian Atlaslittle different but and to and just to further clarify what I told my ex it was euphemism which basically was me saying that we'll both be single because if she's putting herself out there in turn I'll start talking to other girls which means we're

Brian Atlasno longer in a committed relationship scroll down that might be the end of it yeah so those first few tweets are kind of the the Crux of it is that because you as women are getting initiated upon

Brian Atlasat the bar at the club on Instagram you're keeping your options open whereas men don't really be getting DMs like that and you're not even you're not posting your boyfriend

Brian Atlasso and maybe your boyfriend's fine with that but you're generating leads while he's probably cut off all his options well hey job I wouldn't

Kellysay he has the same kind of job where he has to keep his he has to keep his Instagram um the same way because he is always he's always talking to other people too he has all his connections to other people as well so he's his Instagram as

Brian Atlasa way to connect with people as the same way that I do okay sure fair enough I mean maybe I should have asked this question before I gave that uh red from that tweet but would you think it's a red flag or an issue if a guy you were

Brian Atlasdating who wanted to be monogamous with you said I'm fine I'm prepared to commit to you but I don't want you going to the club anymore I don't want you going to bars and I I let's say he wants you to

Giselle (Al)private your Instagram agree or disagree that's fine hold on let's go around the table go ahead when I'm in a relationship I fully dedicate and devote

Giselle (Al)myself so if he thinks that that's the best decision for me then I will listen to him wow okay not bad what about you um you can be honest I think it really just

Rihannalike depends pink if I want to have a girls night and actually like at least like keep them updated like what I'm doing like what time I'm coming back and like be like honest and truthful I think there's no problem with that but they

Rihannalike ask you to do something that's a little more like you know I agree with the fact that like the woman is a lion and the man is what what was it a rhino like don't worry

Rihannaabout the right but but you know what I mean like like that's part of like why a man would want you to go private on your Instagram and stuff like that though so you're not advertising yourself like in a way

Brian Atlasokay but I don't know about like doing that it's different though what about like okay let's talk about clubs though clubs bars parties yeah you want to be monogamous with your you want commitment from your boyfriend

Brian Atlashe says cool I don't want you going to bars and clubs anymore are you going along with that you're saying you're not going to control me I'm gonna do what I want to do no like

Brian AtlasI'll let you know what I'm doing and where I'm at but I'm not gonna just just because you don't want me to go out now here we'll go around let's get everyone to answer okay yeah um so you what you

Destinywould still go out yeah okay what about you I would um definitely still go out I don't think that has anything to do with like if we're gonna start dating I think trust

Destinyis a big thing and if you're saying that it's probably because you can't trust somebody okay I'll respond to that I want everyone to answer first though go ahead um I can Vibe garden set up

Brian AtlasI really like mess with a guy LeBron James he's like look I want to be monogamous with you but I wouldn't you wouldn't he's too old for you I would do like

Brian Atlaslike anybody married I'm cool yeah Drake um drink what no that's good but okay yeah it's not it's not a fair scenario let's just say like some dude who's prepared to commit to you and he says

NBA Girl (DT71)look I don't want you going to the bars and clubs anymore yeah I mean you accept that or do you say at that point I'm kicking it with him every day I like him we're texting and like I'm dating him Okay and like

NBA Girl (DT71)that's fine sure um what you want to go to the club together like if I want to go that bad I'll ask him yeah but it's I'm not gonna die if I don't go out like

Brian Atlassure what about you yeah I would do it okay whatever he wants well with your current relationship do you uh do you guys do you go out to bars clubs with him by yourself girls

Kellyum but I go I can go by myself and I go with him he doesn't mind no a lot of guys are lucky with it he also he like he he'll just like pick me up so it doesn't

Abelinariahurts okay um what about you I barely exist on Instagram so if my boyfriend was to prohibit me from using it I would definitely raise how um you'd Raise Hell well no no I would

Abelinariaraise how um like um controlling is he if when a girl barely uses her Instagram posts once a year if he would want her to shut that down like I think it would be a

Xeniacontrolling sign sure however I don't even like clubs so that's totally down with that one sure what about you um I'm the same I don't like clubs and to the bars I can go with him the only

Xeniathing is uh that I think that sometimes people need their own space so girls need to go out with their friends at the same guys need to go out with their friends but here comes but they can go

Xeniaout to the restaurants for example and not to the clubs so yeah as for Instagram I don't care I can make it private and we chill most of the time in my apartment so I don't know what she's talking about but

Lauren De Lagunawhat about you my Instagram's only public today so that I could be here and uh what about bars and clubs bars I hate bars and clubs it's the only time I ever go to the bars and clubs is because

TTS ReaderI'm like maybe I'll meet a cute guy oh and then I go home no no I'm not I'm going to meet you Forex donated 100 thank you don't get mad you are going out because they are insecure they get

TTS Readerupset because they aren't there to protect you in case something happens it's because they love and care for you because men know some men nasty ate dirtbags

Johnyeah that's definitely not 100 another component bad underscore exe thank you man really appreciate it go ahead I I I'd like to ask a question about uh going to clubs why are there women who

Johnsay they go to clubs only to dance and not be approached by men they say one more time why are there women who say they go to clubs only to dance and not be approached by men

NBA Girl (DT71)being approached by man is just that's being a part of it you're going outside like it's not just oh I'm gonna go dance like hopefully I get hit on if I'm going outside period I'm probably gonna get

NBA Girl (DT71)hit on if I go to the gas station I get hit on like it's not necessarily like I'm gonna go dance and get hit to any any other responses or well I agree women I feel like the the thread

Abelinariathat you were showing earlier women get hit on anywhere you don't have to be on Instagram you don't have to be like anywhere well there's a difference oh for sure for sure what what I'm wondering is if women don't like being

Abelinariaapproached why not just go to gay clubs oh we do but they're actually straight

Johnokay but I mean I'm just saying like wouldn't that put your boyfriend's mind at ease like if you have to go out and have a girls night then at least he doesn't have to work it would be like you know if your boyfriend said I'm gonna go out to the strip club with all my guy friends you know you might have a

Lauren De Lagunaproblem with that I mean let's not sugarcoat that women go to clubs and bars to get attention from men I I do know women some very few married women who go to gay clubs today well I'm not talking about gay clubs anymore

Johnor even just following up on this point why are there women only gyms in various safe spaces but no women only nightclubs would that even make sense should we start one that's

JohnI mean isn't that the environment women complain about the most um and there are there are some like women only clubs but I mean how would it make money who's who's women getting to the club for free who's spending the

NBA Girl (DT71)money spend money at the bar like unless it's a lesbian Club I don't see the logic

Johnright so can we conclude that women go to clubs because they get attention from Men what do you mean can we conclude that's the purpose of women going to clubs is to get attention from men I

Johndon't think it's the sole purpose but then can you understand why why a man might have a problem with his girlfriend going out and taking a girl's name

Brian Atlasvery very okay sure sure do you guys think it's controlling if a guy didn't want his

Abelinariagirlfriend going to a bar or club is it controlling if she wants to do it every single day then no I don't think it's controlling because she's just trying to moderate

Johnher but if you know she goes once in two months then it could be controlled sorry what is is jealousy a turn on or a turn off for you in other words like

Kellywhat is the difference between protecting your woman and being possessive is that a personal question yeah or just you know anyone who has an answer I think possessive is more like or like

Kellycontrolling is more like you can't do this you can't do that and then possessive is like what are you doing who's gonna be there what time are you going to be back like you know asking questions about what you're what you're doing rather than like telling you you

Kellycan't do that but I mean is there good jealousy is there jealousy that kind of is a turn on well I would say yeah because when my boyfriend asked me like oh what are you doing like where are you at like who's there who you with like I like that

Kellybecause it's like you're you're wondering like you know you're thinking about what I'm doing but then it's like he's not gonna but I I wouldn't I would I would not like if he told me no you can't do that you can't you can't do

Kellythis you can't do that but I would still just comply because I would tell him I don't like it but then I would just have to comply because that's my boyfriend well that's part of wait question for you so your current boyfriend you've been dating him

Brian Atlasfor a year and four months if he just shifts all of a sudden after watching the show because he's like that's not a bad idea he's like listen

Brian AtlasGertrude Kelly right yeah it's Kelly right okay Gertrude's your middle name sometimes you go by Gertrude right no

Brian AtlasAgatha no okay never mind he's like look I don't want you going to the club anymore and I want you your Instagram to be private

Brian Atlasyes or no yeah okay wait but so going back to my question does anyone here think and it's okay if you do you think it's controlling or insecure

Brian Atlasif a guy doesn't want his girlfriend going to the club controlling your insecure

Destinythe reason they could do it for themselves or they could do it out of like they're saying they just want you safe and they don't want you to go out because that can put you into a situation I mean I think the primary thing is they

Brian Atlasbasically don't want you getting hit on and flirted with and approached by other men primarily I mean there's some I think a safety component is part of that but I'd say the primary

Brian Atlasreason is to happen you're kind of keeping your options open like going to these environments good to see you man it's been a while thank you I'm from it's complicated I wish I could shake that man's hand and

TTS Readerbuy him a beer excellent questions content but minus the cigar smoking lesbian and few others the bobble heads are the same across the board

Brian Atlascheers to you and Brian hey sentience thank you man cheers thank you he's a long time supporter of the show thank you zantians good to see you back man thank you for stopping by the stream um okay let's move on from this let's do

Brian Atlassome super chats here other rating one yeah all right we have Stifler here ask the ladies to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten

Giselle (Al)you were about to answer this go ahead I would say maybe a four or five stop the cow okay come on come on you know that is I have a lot of I guess

Giselle (Al)past trauma due to my appearance so well he's asking right there looks right my my looks yes your self-assessment okay well I think you're you're uh

Johnunderselling yourself a little bit but what do you think it would take to make you attend like what would you want to improve about yourself or your looks just that appearance there's a lot of things I dislike about myself so I mean

Giselle (Al)I'm not sure but if I were to be able to change things I would mainly change maybe my face that's all so pretty yeah I think you're beautiful

Brian Atlasokay um but you mentioned I mean I don't know if you want to get into it I but you mentioned past trauma how is that related to your physical appearance

Giselle (Al)um well growing up my I had a sister and she was the one more complimented than I was when we would go out or by your parents um other people in general all together and on top of that growing up I

Giselle (Al)did get bullied for a little while I did look a lot different when I was younger but to me I still see that little girl that I was and you know who people bullied have you have you had any

Brian Atlasplastic surgery no but I I have had something done with my chin because it was uneven and I fixed it okay gotcha okay um got it

Brian Atlaswhat about you would you rate yourself looks wise one to ten

Rihannalike a six on like a good day you know okay gotta stay humble sure eight of a nine eight

Abelinariauh could I withhold myself from answering unless you want to make a discussion which I would love to but unless I want one I if you want to make a discussion then we can discuss okay let's discuss okay why do you object to

Abelinariaanswering the question first uh I just think it's so heavily depends like if you were to ask let's say what do I think men in California would on average rate me let's say you

Brian Atlasknow that would be different from from myself like your rating in Smolensk or over like another different places for sure yeah okay like so it just depends on Siberia

Johnwhat's your rating in Siberia I would probably be on a higher upscale and say Vietnam then in La okay what's your rating from 100 years ago you know what I mean it's like different time periods the beauty standards have

Abelinariachanged the Renaissance there's the Renaissance there's the okay but it's not just about the time I can hop on the plane and where I

Abelinarialook right now like two more rock will be in another kitchen but what would you rate yourself right but that's why I have the problem with this question you know like it's a

Abelinariavery general question but since you're asking on the look like yeah it just so it depends I could be a two one day and then the next day I could be a nine

Brian Atlashow about we drop you we're not gonna put you in La we're gonna drop you in in like Columbus Ohio is that where you are yeah okay I would

Abelinariasay probably right eight are you a nine in Columbus Ohio oh 10 in Ohio okay I see I see what's up I'm probably gonna be like an eight or nine Ohio in Columbus Ohio yeah okay

Brian Atlaswhat about like Idaho I don't know too much about Idaho so I would not know West Virginia but not now sliding scale Louisiana

Abelinariawhat's it in Louisiana no even less Nantucket what about Nantucket okay let's try Canada what about Quebec quebecois again also

Xeniahigher than let's say in the labor okay all right fair enough um moving on what about you what do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten well for me it depends on mood say

Xeniaand sometimes eight but for me it's also important how I don't just feel like when I look at myself but also I what I feel inside because it's very connected sure so yeah

Lauren De LagunaLauren de Laguna Idaho 3 la 7. uh uh

Lauren De Lagunaso you're more attractive in L.A you're saying idahoans are I don't know if that's there but if you can't are you saying Idaho Los Angeles

Abelinariabut there's there's definitely more America very attractive people in California that I'm sure Idaho simply because there's more people in California so there's probably going to be more attractive people in California and more

Brian Atlashomeless people you hitting up those homeless ones are you comparing yourself to homeless women I'm seven sure enough fair enough what about your

Brian Atlasyou said you're moving to Florida so are you going to Miami make a point Miami's gonna be tough uh

Lauren De Lagunaum um and Treasure Coast Treasure Coast or Cove I don't know uh Jepson Beach Jensen Beach Jensen Beach I feel like this question really isn't all that hard but

Brian Atlasokay you guys want to make it about geography what what about like uh your rating and [ __ ] uh it's more of a joke but

Brian AtlasI'm trying to think are they like small European country luxembourg's pretty small what's the one that's like super small is it Luxembourg Croatia no there's like a really small

Xeniaone Liechtenstein Liechtenstein Liechtenstein the van Vatican technically but in Liechtenstein um girls uh blonde and pretty tall

Xeniabecause it's basically german-speaking country and they all come from like mountains I would say so it's definitely not the country for you Brian to look for a girl because they're too tall yeah well I heard the tallest people are in

Brian Atlasuh the Netherlands in Scandinavia Italian Netherlands is like the tallest people so which is unfortunate because I really like Amsterdam um okay moving on from that thank you guys for the lovely ratings we have roscon here hi whatever

Brian AtlasHello Lord and other panelists in chat hey what's up Ross Khan is that he's got mullet Frost Khan she that's a sheep that is a she yeah there's some awesome video she is a

Lauren De Lagunacontent creator as well she is named Ross is Ross a common female name no I just

Brian Atlasknow my I just know my I see my people okay well I apologize for misgendering you Ross Khan you have a lovely mullet okay thank you oh my Roman oh this is uh [ __ ] I wish we got to this sooner sorry

Giselle (Al)we're getting to this like two hours later uh Romy wait do you know this girl why did you I saw oh

Brian Atlaswere you shifting or no because I saw it too late shoot hey I believe this is Roma Army um sorry that we're finally getting to this now now simulate shifting gears manually thank you for

Brian Atlasthe uh big uh 300 Canadian dollars thank you so much for your support thank you for your uh big super chat last show too really appreciate it I don't know if you're still in the in the Stream I know you sent this like two hours ago we're

Brian Atlasfinally getting to the Super Chat sorry for the delay guys um we're gonna try to I'm pretty sure this is Roma Army Chloe uh so we're gonna try to get her on the show eventually um thank you so much appreciate it do

Giselle (Al)you want to show us the little shift season soon did you drive a stick no but I know you like there's a switch pedal isn't there yeah demonstrate it wait can you make the noises too

Giselle (Al)but you're you're about to make the noise like the driving noise [Music] wait can we hear it

Brian Atlaslike what I just did into the mic though okay so um Brian what number are you well do I rate

Lauren De Lagunamyself as yeah like six 6.9 on a good day okay do you feel like a lot of the times not this panel no one called themselves

Lauren De Lagunaa 10 but I do feel like a lot of the times this show will bring in like kind of sevens are above and then they call themselves tens and we scoff at

Lauren De Lagunathat sevens and above you sure about that one most of the time I don't know sometimes they'd be lower than sevens claiming ten but go ahead with your point

Lauren De Lagunago ahead I just like and we scoff and make fun of that so just like what makes you a six like me personally like my own self-assessments of my are you wanting

Lauren De Laguname to articulate yeah like what makes you better than over 50 of

Brian Atlaswell I mean I and I could certainly be wrong how I I think uh that's just my own self-assessment I think I'm and I'm not saying it to be cocky I don't think

Brian AtlasI'm a 10 but if if 5 is the average I think I'm perhaps maybe slightly above average go to the gym do I go to the gym um uh I've been eating kind of [ __ ] so I

Johnneed to lose like 10 pounds I got got a little belly here you know so uh rocking a bit of a dad Bond but how does the beard factor into that that number the beard yeah the beard we've got it into the number yeah you know what isn't

Brian Atlasthere some YouTuber who like does like face ratings wheat waffles do you know oh didn't you do something with wheat wait I'm trying to think I didn't but I've seen what you're talking about you know what I'm talking about yeah yeah he does like the face like breakdown

Brian Atlassymmetry the epicanthal folds and or what does he [ __ ] talk about he talks about like he's a good guy but uh I'm trying to think what he talks about um I think it's like facial symmetry or

Brian Atlasbone structure or something like that or okay so I'm I uh I still my my hair isn't totally gone yet so I that I guess that's good at least for my age I reckon uh

Brian Atlasblue eyes got the baby blues got the long eyelashes you know what I'm saying um and uh yeah I know I I don't think I'm an

Brian Atlasexceptionally good looking but I think I'm I'm decent I'm okay okay yeah I just I think big nose probably I I got big nose so that probably takes off um I don't know a point or two and then I'm pale super

Brian Atlaspale and uh I've got my hands kind of shake because I I haven't eaten anything today and uh right I didn't eat much today and

Brian Atlasuh I have I have dainty hands and I think if I had big muscular man hands that were thick and fat that'd be like an extra 0.5 but I got these gamer hands

Brian Atlasyou know [ __ ] my micro what's that you know how you get muscles though sex the gym huh the gym that's how you get them yeah but like some people just

Brian Atlasgenetically for example my dad he's a software engineer he doesn't exercise he doesn't lift he's got [ __ ] man hands

Brian Atlaslike big fat meaty strong man hands and I got these dainty what these I got these dainty gamer hands for like playing the piano and [ __ ] like I could

Lauren De Lagunabust out some Chopin but I'm about to like do nine hours of physical labor in the fields so my point here being is a lot of this show is scoffing out women who think that they are prettier than

Lauren De Lagunathey are and then I rarely see us turn it around on the men and like I'm sure you're a nice guy and you have a great show but I I wouldn't say like can I

Johngive you the the guy's version of that you got the delusional women thinking they're a 10 the man version of that is men who declare themselves an alpha male I think that that is comparable they

Lauren De Lagunawere asking about look still well well I think Lauren Lauren was about to say that I'm I'm actually not a six but go ahead Lauren no that they have that you got it you got this one well go ahead say for yourself yesterday

Lauren De LagunaI finished my thought well you didn't because John came in but go ahead thanks John

Lauren De Lagunaby you as a six and I do feel like why would you scoff at women who are incorrect about their beauty like I don't understand what do you write me just out of curiosity

Lauren De Lagunaif I'm not a six what do you what do you I mean we could also ask the chat too Chad do you guys want to rate me go ahead yes let's look at the chat let's see to rate you yeah what do you rate me

Lauren De LagunaI think okay first of all I think you're very kind but we have to go based off just looks just looks like a four or three or four three or four and would you rate yourself

Brian AtlasI started three you were three I don't think you were three Ohio and I said okay just forget the [ __ ] [ __ ] Geographic what do you rate yourself on a scale of one like a five or

Brian Atlasfirst okay you know what's funny is actually I would say you know there's I don't know if any of you have seen this on Tick Tock there's this app that like makes you like the male version of you and it's something like if you wouldn't date

Brian Atlaslike and often you see girls doing this if you wouldn't date the male version of you your standards are too high yes but

Lauren De Lagunajust like applying another man's face over your face so that app doesn't even actually turn you into the male version of yourself it just turns you into some random guy because have you ever tried like the male filter on yourself because

Lauren De LagunaI know the female filter on myself doesn't make me just look like a more feminine woman it looks makes me look like a different woman you know what I mean it's not just mess

Brian Atlaslet's ask the chat who's more attractive me or what's Lauren who's more physically attractive or are we looks equivalents because I was going to say just looking at you I actually think there are some

Brian Atlassimilar to some degree I mean are you Irish are you Irish no but I I would say word to some degree I would I would consider us brother sister no I would say we're kind of to some degree

Brian Atlascomparable looks wise I think okay but you but you think you're more attractive than me that's totally fine fair enough I'm not I'm not for everybody sitting next to me everyone looks better

Lauren De Lagunayeah chat are we on no I'm Tony Hawk Tony Hawk what would you rate Tony Hawk s like a child I loved he's like watching the skateboard

Brian Atlasthere's a reason I don't show my face on camera I haven't been reading the chat but what's the what's the chat it's been saying Brian

Lauren De Lagunaokay so your your original question is and and so you're understand what number he is do we even get into that or did we just well we can't look over him like do men not well the original question was

Brian Atlasask the ladies to rate themselves on the look looks at 10 but if you want to try to deflect from where I'm about to go with this conversation we can pass it to John really quick if uh what do you rate yourself on scale well I mean if you

Johnwant whatever if you want to delay my rebuttal but go ahead I mean what is Tony Hawk I mean Tony Conley he's my He's My Doppelganger so I mean you know do you have a skateboard on you you know what I I don't have a

Johnskateboard on me but I would say you know above average I would think I mean six seven something like that possibly but you know I mean I don't show my face on camera for a reason you know

Brian AtlasOkay so so you're I think the difference is though and you're I guess your qualm is is because you think I've rated myself higher than

TTS Readerhow you view me and and perhaps you're right perhaps donated 99 false equivalence there lawyer we don't

TTS Readerscoff at women themselves inaccurately we scoffered women who default to saying their nine or ten purely based on this self-generated notion they have that they're inherently high value sure so I

Brian Atlasmean let's give by the way black Socrates thank you for the uh donation appreciate it so I think there's a difference between someone being within the margin of error of a rating so either plus or minus a point

Brian Atlasso perhaps I'm a five right my self-assessment is a six I think that's within the margin of error now we're getting kind of hold on we're getting [ __ ] a little nerdy with this [ __ ] hold on

Brian Atlaswith the [ __ ] maths and [ __ ] but uh it the difference is when a girl who's like a six or a seven she thinks she's a 10. because if a girl

Brian Atlassays she's a six and I think she's a five I'm not like I'm not calling that out but if a girl who's a six she says she's a 10 who says she's on par with the most beautiful

Brian Atlaswomen in the world that's where I'm like you're delusional so I think there's a difference there I think it's a degree you know if you're within again the margin of error that's one thing but if you're

Brian Atlaswe have below average women come on the podcast saying I'm a 10. I'm on par with the most beautiful women in the world I'm on par with lingerie models runway models Magazine models

Brian Atlasthe most beautiful women in the world that to me is delusional that's where we scoff I don't scoff at a girl who's a five who says she's a six go ahead

TTS Readersorry hold on bad sunless corex donated 100 it's the scoff because a lot of women that come on have a self-inflated ego because of makeup angles lighting

TTS Readerand filters that thirsty Simpsons in the DMS gas up when in reality they are very middle lower if I said I was a 10 that's like bro

Brian Atlasthat's like me saying I'm on par with Brad Pitt when he was in his mid-20s and he's also been a [ __ ] babe and like he's still a [ __ ] babe but tens

Johnget modeling contracts if you're a 10 why would you even wear makeup I mean I I've done this interview on the street before and uh many women have said they're tens and I guess they conflate

Johnit with confidence if I am super confident then that makes me a 10. but then there is also a beauty standard there's obviously you know just because I think I'm a billionaire does that mean

Xeniathat my you know my back my bank account reflects that you know what I mean there's certain just things that have to back up what you're saying but did you did you want to respond oh go ahead um no I just wanted to say like

Xeniamaybe for someone who read in love with her she's a full tan you know you know that's for him she's 10 and she's better than all others because he's in love with her that's beauty is in the eye of the beholder but that

Johnstill doesn't disprove the fact that we do have certain uh um opportunities that come along with certain uh levels of beauty

Lauren De LagunaRip's in the chat boys for Brian okay um let's move on from the did you want to respond Lauren or no I mean that that really does make a lot of sense like I I get where you're coming from with the

Lauren De Lagunasaying okay I'm a nine or ten and I'm in that difference however I do think that we could experience some nuance and recognize that we that at least you on

Lauren De Lagunathis podcast do avoid asking the men that question and then also um you know whatever he said also what oh did you want to come in oh

Abelinariano no yeah did you finish yeah okay uh I just want to point out um I think you're talking about almost like self-awareness because um like if a woman let's say she thinks

Abelinariashe's a 10 she's actually a seven but it doesn't even matter what you know just like she thinks not the reality and then don't you think that the world

Abelinariathe reality will kind of slap her in her place at some point like she will realize that she is not as like old as she thinks she is and if she doesn't

Abelinariarealize that that's not so much like inflated ego but I at least I I would view it more as um not having self-reflection um

Brian AtlasI mean I definitely think I think it's perhaps harder for women to have the self-awareness of their own physical attractiveness for a couple reasons one if you look at and some

Brian Atlaspeople really aren't active on social media but for example if you look at a lot of girls Instagram profiles their friends are in the comments gassing them up even like let's be honest even average below average women their

Brian Atlasfriends are saying you're [ __ ] slay Queen you're a babe you're a hot 10 out of 10 you're perfect blah blah so their own female friends their own peers are gassing them up guys really don't do

Brian Atlasthat to their male friends on social media or in I mean some guys do but like guys really aren't gassing them each other up in that same way guys typically are gonna like call out their friends

Brian Atlasmore so like men and women kind of interact differently like men will bond by basically [ __ ] roasting each other to death whereas whereas uh

Brian Atlasand then saying really nice things about them behind like behind their backs and then I think it's almost the reverse with women women will say really nice things to a girl to her face and then talk mad [ __ ] about her behind her back

TTS Readernot not all women here but um I have a question about this basically okay oh as much 209 thank you man appreciate it 100

TTS Readerthis is my first time commenting not to sound like a simp but the girl on the end with low selfish team please don't change a thing you are the prettiest

TTS Readergirl on the panel and quick question are you of Korean decent beautiful eye the way are you of Korean decent decent decent

Johnare you Korean decent no or indecent I'm not of Korean descent I am Latina Dominican and Cuban thanks to picking up on your point from before do you think it's true that men

Giselle (Al)will insult each other and not mean it while women will compliment each other and not mean it um oh I believe a bunch of delusion is fed to women yes and I believe that woman come across as like they'll compliment a

Giselle (Al)woman to try to be their friend even if they don't mean that compliment do we still have Kelly's Instagram pulled up can we just pull it up really quick

Brian Atlascome back to your point I will respond let's pull uh go go down go down um here do the the most recent one maybe the I guess the pinned one let's

Brian Atlassee baby stunning how's this even possible yes Queen hot you're such a hottie body fire Emoji heart she is hot granted

Lauren De LagunaKelly you are very attractive what an ugly girl and then try to show me that chat

Brian Atlassure sure granted yes Kelly's very attractive however however however like I've seen like that

Brian Atlassame exact comment section you can copy and paste it to like an average girl wait okay yeah where Giselle is sitting

Lauren De Lagunauh yo pull up who's that Kiko girl pull up lizards pull up lizzo's Instagram okay who's not here she's there she's very pretty what about her and she calls herself a 10 and I just

Brian Atlasfeel like it sucks because everyone's like oh and it's like she's pretty [ __ ] sorry did you guys see this [ __ ] time Good Times

Lauren De Lagunaoh don't don't you don't touch it I'll clean it okay anyway but everyone's just like scoffing and like spitting all over the microphone and everything and like oh my God she's not she's not a 10 and it's like she's not that okay but she's

Johnlike at eight or a nine why are we losing go ahead John I I have an appropriate question for this I think okay is the pressure greater on men to be successful

Johnor on women to be beautiful sorry one more time one more time is the pressure greater on men to be successful around women to be beautiful I think there's more pressure on men

Giselle (Al)only because for a woman that's more of a choice if we like want to try to be beautiful whereas a man he kind of like has to be successful to get anywhere in life

TTS Readerso the average man's salary in the U.S is 40 oh wait sorry hold on hello underscore Joe underscore 69 donated 101.69

TTS ReaderBrian you're a king respect to girl and gray skirt for keeping her hands folded on the table good manners other smooth

Brian Atlasbrains on panel can learn manners from her hashtag Christ is Lord uh Slow Joe 69 thank you for the 101 dollars and 69

Brian Atlascents much appreciate my friend you have a response to Slow Joe 69. not really do I say thank you I don't know if that's a compliment or not

JohnI don't know thank you I guess question mark okay um so I was going to continue here the average man's salary in the U.S is forty thousand dollars the average woman in the U.S weighs 170

Johnpounds why is there a fat acceptance movement for women but there's no broke acceptance movement for men

Giselle (Al)um I don't I don't believe that um maybe the whole body positivity thing I believe that we should be taking care

Giselle (Al)of ourselves as best as we can so I'm not sure why that happens but I don't agree with it but do you think that plays a role in over inflating a woman's

Giselle (Al)self self-awareness or you know perception yes delusion yes I do believe that it plays into why a lot of women are delusional but so then do you make an argument

Giselle (Al)potentially that fat people don't know their fat or like what delusion part like what I'm just not I think I think being fat is a bit different than just going off

Giselle (Al)of like I think fat people know that they are fat but they don't do anything about it and women and men they're a bit different right I'm sure men get a lot

Giselle (Al)of pressure to work out and everything like that whereas women don't get as much pressure like I guess Society puts that pressure on them but there's a lot of like oh it's my body like I should be

Giselle (Al)happy because it's my body instead of forcing them to like more so actually take care of themselves like they're told that they're stunning beautiful right without working out whereas a guy will mainly only get compliments if he

Brian Atlasdoes work out that's a double standard that's yeah yeah it is there are a lot of double standards out there yes for sure there is really quick on the rating thing just to kind of address your point um and so can you just quickly

Brian Atlasparaphrase what your original question was in terms of when self-awareness when it comes to rating well yeah so I guess

Abelinariamy um hypothesis is that uh an average person if they're not like what they think they are um reality will come in and let you know at a certain point like slap you in the

Abelinariaface um and if you are unable to see that reality if you're unable to see those slaps then you're just not self-aware and if you are able to see them then

Brian Atlasyou'll like eventually start wondering okay maybe it is me and then you know you'll yo a b check big thank you for the uh 20 gifted memberships thank you so much man

Abelinariaappreciate it go ahead so it just seems to me that women that think that they are a 10 and will keep struggling in life because they will never you know understand the reality

Brian AtlasI'm not self-aware women rather than like yeah I understand I think I understand your question I mean my response to that is I mean I I women are certainly capable of self-awareness I

Brian Atlasthink however where women get into trouble and where a lot of them don't receive the so-called slap in the face is that women can sleep with men that are more

Brian Atlasattractive than them who are higher status than them who either so who are basically hypertney so who either socioeconomically are higher so that could be status it could be money

Brian Atlasor it could also be looks and here's why because men welcome the easy access to land life thanks for the 10 gifted women welcome the easy access excuse me women

Brian Atlaswelcome the easy access wait sorry getting am I having a stroke um men well yeah got it I got tongue twisted men welcomed the easy access to sex so a guy who let's say

Brian Atlasand look in common like obviously we're having an intellectual conversation here in like common conversation I'm not like referring to people as tens and sevens but because we're trying to like get to the truth of things I am trying to have

Brian Atlaslike a rather to some degree shallower superficial approach to this but for conversation's sake it's very easy to say looks wise she's a six looks wise he's a seven

Brian Atlaswhatever it may be so a girl who's a six could sleep with a dude who's a nine because he's like easy access to sex cool but he's never going to give her commitment so that's I think women don't really get the slap in

Brian Atlasthe face because it's pretty easy for women and let me just finish my point I'll have you come in John okay women can sleep with men that on pretty much all levels are more attractive than

Brian Atlasthem whether again that's status wealth or looks or even personality a lot of women want a guy who's funny charismatic confident all these things even if they don't have

Brian Atlasthose same qualities so basically what you have happening is women are going to hold on Spencer thank you man donated

Brian Atlas100 body counts including the men what's up we'll get to body count thank you man Spencer appreciate it so here's the difference right

Brian Atlasa guy will gladly sleep with hook up with keep a girl around for that's this is basically what situationships are um casual sex right with a girl who's less physically

Brian Atlasattractive than him because he welcomes the easy access to sex he'll never commit to her she'll never be his boyfriend she'll never get the ring look it happens occasionally let me just finish my point and so

Brian Atlashere's the difference a guy will sleep with a woman who's not as attractive as he is and he'll never commit to her but for women to sleep

Brian Atlaswith a guy he needs to be at least at he for a woman to be able to sleep with a guy he needs to be at least good looking enough to be considered for a relationship

Brian Atlashe has to be at least attractive enough that she would be in a relationship with him but the same is not the case for men men will sleep with women of a certain physical attractiveness that they would

Brian Atlasnever commit to they just welcome the easy access to sex so women can sleep with these guys who are really high status who are really good looking and they might they'll never get commitment

Brian Atlasso they think if I can get a guy who is a nine thus I must to be a nine because for me for me to be able to do that he has to

Brian Atlasbe like on my he has to be good looking enough for me to commit to him but it men and women we don't play by the same rules so

Abelinarialike yeah I actually I saw the angry with everything you've said uh the part where I would just kind of like rile back so the moment you even said it

Abelinariayourself the man will not be dating that woman he will have sex with her right but we also know that women prefer relationships they don't prefer sleeping around uh now we could of course go into

Abelinariaargument that that might be different and now we're the age however what I'm trying to say is that woman that the guy had sex with she will much she will want to have a relationship with that guy he will not give her the relationship and

Abelinariathat's the slab that she will get like she will think to herself that oh I can get this guy we must be on the same level but the guy potentially when she'll be going for the relationship he

Brian Atlaswill let her know like dude we can have sex but you're not on the level I think some some perhaps a few women will make that connection but I think there's going to be a lack of

Brian Atlasaccountability and they're gonna instead of being like um I was sleeping with a guy outside of my league I was sleeping with a guy with way too much status compared to where I'm at in life they're gonna say he's a

Brian Atlas[ __ ] boy they're not going to say I'm just not that attractive so I I think some women might get the slap and you're right that women get rejected on the back end so men get

Brian Atlasrejected on the front end like we go up instantly the girl's like no women tend to women don't really get rejected typically on the front end like because women really aren't the initiators like that women are the selectors so they're

TTS Readergonna pick um 100 intelligence and humility are what makes a person attractive I've seen tens

TTS Readerbefores and Falls be tens let's save the planet let's plant more trees once again thank you Brian thank you for the amazing content your guest is a legend

Brian Atlasmuch love from Houston Texas thank you man really appreciate it umtala vile thank you for the 10 gifted memberships appreciate it did you

Giselle (Al)remember I just wanted to add though that the lack of suffer because of the delusion that has been implemented in them it's going to be harder for them to

Abelinariareflect when that delusion has been food you know spoon-fed I totally a 100 agree with what you're saying and a friend like um to your point I see what you're

Abelinariasaying I and I will like my point to your both you guys is going to be like yeah self-awareness is one of the largest Humanity problems nowadays I don't think it's just women I don't think it's just men but I do think that

Johnthat is one of the key issues of a lot of like dating relationships relationships in general is that like lack of self-awareness can I pick up on that self-awareness for a minute okay question for the ladies a man has two women

TTS Reader[Music] related good to see you marquavius thank you tiny Latina you seem uncomfortable with compliments which in itself is

TTS Readerdelightful let's make it simple your attractive polite demure articulate based you are the standard men should be seeking Brian make a move or I'll be

Brian Atlasvery appointed you know what that ring didn't fit but here hold on yeah try this one oh my God Jesus Christ

Brian Atlasthat was a great throw bro get it together hello your hands are too powerful I was aiming for her head like these powerful hands really played video games and not Sports in high school right yeah because it was

Giselle (Al)an underhanded softball throw okay screwed it up no it's still too for 11 hands okay no

Giselle (Al)no Jesus yeah okay all right you tried not tempted all right markovius um

Johnall right we'll just leave it there for the rest of the show thank you man I appreciate it um I just wanted I just wanted to finish this one question get get the ladies input on this okay a man has two women

Johnhe lies to one he tells the truth to the other which one does he love truth

Rihannathis is the one he's true to is like it has to be a side because like if he's lying to his main person he's gonna like tell the side chick like what

Rihannawhat's up so that way he's she's not like ratting him out on the subway if you know what I mean um like is he protecting her or is he feeding her delusion well the one that

Rihannahe's lying is trying to per se protect her but like the one that he's not lying to is the one that he just doesn't want to get like a feeling feelings attached and stuff like that you know because

Kellyit's more like a side piece I feel like a man is gonna lie to a woman that he loves because he's going to want to try to keep her if he's cheating on her he's not gonna he's not gonna straight up tell her I'm cheating

Kellyon you because she's gonna leave so it's like you're gonna tell but you're gonna tell the truth to yourself you're gonna men are gonna tell the side [ __ ] you're the side [ __ ] they're gonna say they're gonna tell you I have a girlfriend you know you're the side [ __ ] should a

Johnwoman get mad about cheating if she's already a side [ __ ] if she's the side [ __ ] if she's already a side piece should she get mad about cheating no because you chose to be the side [ __ ] once a cheater always a cheater is what I've always heard so if

Johnhe cheats on his his woman to be with you why would you be surprised if he cheats on you to be with some other woman shouldn't be surprised oh actually another question I have about cheating as well

Johnum what do you find more intimate having a deep conversation or having sex

Xeniawhy is it that cheating is usually more about having sex and having a deep conversation with a stranger well I would actually disagree with this uh

Xeniabecause sometimes I feel like that sex is just uh how she was talking about the Tomato animals and they sometimes kind of like need it but when it gets to emotional part when they have really

Xeniaconnection through the Deep dialogue or through the things they're sharing or something like this then it's then it's I mean both things are cheating don't understand me wrong it just hurts more yeah exactly well it's like you hear

Johnabout how men and women are judged differently on on cheating it's often said that uh women are more likely to forgive cheating than men because when men cheat is usually for sexual gratification women are more likely to

Johncheat with feelings so men take it if it's more of a betrayal so I'm just saying it's like there's emotional cheating and then there's physical cheating apparently so you know I I guess emotional cheating it's

Kellydefinitely true oh yeah emotional shooting does hurt more it's like how you let somebody else like you had a conversation with somebody else that's conversation that you know that me and you should have

Kellybeen having it's like why would you let somebody else feel this the same way like like I said I've said before like why are you letting you're treating someone else the same way that you're supposed to be treating me and it's like when it comes down to it if that's the

Lauren De Lagunaside [ __ ] she shouldn't be getting that same treatment does um dick size matter and if so has it affected past relationships as if they

Abelinariadated strictly for the size of their partner yes it matters it cannot be too big yeah I agree on that

Rihannait does matter it can't be too big I didn't say that I think it just really depends on like um how a person knows like how to use it

Rihannabecause like if they're just like no good and they don't have like you know like a good size like you know they know yeah but like you can

Rihannahave like you can have like a small you can have like a small penis and know what you're doing and satisfy your lady and you can have a big one and still know what you're doing it just matters

Johnabout if they know what they're doing with it you know why the [ __ ] did I come back it's not about the size of the boat it's the motion of the ocean yeah why is there so much focus on the size of a man

Rihannaas opposed to the tightness of a woman well I think oh it's like I don't know I mean like I mean like a woman is going

Rihannato like naturally go back to its regular size and man can't change their size I don't think can they but what is their regular sizes it's quite cavernous as

Lauren De Lagunacavernous cavernous what do you mean like like a cabin is if a woman is naturally just a gaping hole like it is a perfect segue does a woman's body

Rihannacount affect her tightness I don't think so no probably not no no no because a woman woman will go back to there's like let's say I just hopped on Big John's last night right

Rihannaum that's me and like three days later I'm like chilling it's gonna it's literally go it goes back to the same size I mean I don't know I didn't even know women could stay like well you've heard of the kegel exercise but women

NBA Girl (DT71)also can push out a baby and apparently it'll go back yeah I mean it's not like you stretched out for life just because you had sex with somebody that's bigger like that's nothing yeah I don't think it works that way the other thing I hear

Brian Atlasis some people think that if a woman has a high body count that the labia gets bigger too that ain't true that ain't true

Brian Atlasright that makes nobody a virgin could have look I don't like these terms but they're used there's terms like roast roast beef beef

Brian Atlascurtains which I'm against I'm a fan of Audis just want to say women they have they have you guys are speaking about penis size women have preferences when it comes to men's genitalia I happen to

Brian Atlashave a preference when it comes to women's genitalia what yeah that's right I like large labia what's up deal with it okay

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