2 Year Situationship With 6ft8 Chad?! | Dating Talk #63

Date: 2023-03-15

Duration: 3h 47m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKarina (DT63)>

LLindsay (DT63)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS/Clip(audience)

SPEAKER_02Reese (DT63)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Alexa (DT63)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_05Rico (DT63)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Ella (DT63)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Susan (DT63)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Lindsay (DT63)(guest)

SPEAKER_09Karina (DT63)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kayla (DT63)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Haley (DT63)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAlexa introduces herself as a Twitch streamer and OnlyFans agency manager at "Chic"

“my name's Alexa I'm 27. I'm a Noob twitch streamer and then primarily I am a manager for models and a creative director at only fans agency called chic”

RelationshipKarina reveals she is in a serious 2-year situationship and "in love" but won't be in a relationship until married

“I'm in a really serious situationship right now it's been going for like two years so I'm in love but I'm also not really in a relationship until I'm married”

QuoteKayla discloses her "pimp" relationship when Brian asks about her child's father

“not just like my pimp he was your pimp yeah yeah”

Key MomentAlexa describes her situationship with a 6'8" former basketball player in detail: sees each other almost daily, exclusive from her side, open to him seeing others

“so you've been in the two-year situationship yeah but I'm just the type... we talk every day or see each other every day... probably like neighbors basically”

Key MomentRico confirms Alexa's partner is 6'8" and an athlete, contextualizing the episode title

“exhibit a Chad tall uh yeah Chad tall good looking... he's six eight”

QuoteKayla (Anola Blaze) says her original pimp took all her money, gave her $60 pocket money; he eventually became extremely abusive

“I gave him uh like all my money and he would give me like a little bit back like he would give me like maybe like 60 dollars for like pocket money”

QuoteBrian says he has never spent more than $100 total on a woman; splits the check on most dates

“most money I've ever spent on a girl... maybe no more than a hundred”

OtherPew Research chart shown: 63% of men aged 18-29 report being single vs. 34% of women same age range

“for men 63 percent of men between the ages of 18 to 29 report being single however for women between the ages of 18 to 29 34 of them report being single”

QuoteSusan rates herself a 10 but refuses to elaborate, causing laughter from the panel

“I 10 just say it no no seriously I wake up and I'm like what the [__] girl”

AudienceBrian reads Frankie K superchat about oxytocin receptor desensitization from high body count as rationale for why body count matters

“men are more concerned that your oxytocin receptors have become so desensitized that you can't effectively pair bond”

QuoteKayla discloses body count "up to ~100" in the context of sex work (one client at a time, not many new partners daily)

“if I'm gonna say highest 100. okay”

QuoteRico discloses body count in "the hundreds" possibly ~200-300, citing sex parties and having girlfriends since age 13

“I do not know uh hundreds I've been having sex since they're longer than I haven't been having sex”

Key MomentPanel watches Patrice O'Neal clip asking how a woman would keep her man without a vagina; guests answer with oral sex

“if you didn't have a vagina like say it was a terrible train accident right... how would you keep your man”

QuoteAlexa closes episode with LGBTQ+ advocacy statement before cameras stop

“lgbtq plus okay say it to this... lgbtq rights matter trans rights matter all love to everybody no judgment anywhere sex work is valid boom”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status round

All 9 guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation. Relationship status round: Alexa in 2-year situationship, Karina in serious 2-year situationship, Susan single (no committed relationship), Ella single (never had relationship, longest talking stage ~1 week), Reese single (ended 6-month LDR Jan 2023), Kayla single/single mom, Lindsay single, Haley in 4-year relationship (only BF), Rico dating 2+ women simultaneously.

Kayla's sex work background and pimp relationship

Kayla (Anola Blaze) discloses she started sex work at 18, had multiple pimps. Primary pimp was a 3-4 year relationship (she gave him all her money; he became abusive). Has a daughter. Brian draws comparison to Soft White Underbelly.

Fatherless homes, discipline, and organized sports as predictors of relationship quality

Rico argues women without organized sports backgrounds or paternal influence make poor partners. Alexa and others debate causation vs. correlation. Superchat about 85% of youth in prison from fatherless homes read aloud; debated at length. Discussion of whether single mothers can discipline effectively.

Alexa's 2-year situationship with 6'8" Chad basketball player

Alexa discusses her 2-year on-and-off situationship with a 6'8" former overseas basketball player aged ~32. They see each other almost daily, talk every day, live nearby. She is exclusive to him but he may see other women. She is demisexual. Brian presses whether this is really a relationship. She says she would be open to more with him in the future if timing aligns.

Age gap relationships and women's prime

Rico says he plans to date younger women (20s) when older (40s). Lindsay and others discuss why women age-gap relationships happen: security/father figure dynamic. Karina describes dating a 42yo man at ~18-20. Debate about whether young women or older women make better partners.

Masculinity and femininity in modern society; men becoming feminized

Susan and Lindsay discuss the erosion of masculinity in modern culture (media, social media, soy/estrogen in food, feminism). Agreement that strong masculine and feminine roles are healthy. Rico argues women who haven't played organized sports or had fathers make worse partners.

Feminism debate: definition, equality vs. advocacy, historical context

Brian argues feminism is a women's advocacy movement, not true equality, because feminists don't pursue equality when it disadvantages women (e.g., military draft). Reese defends classic definition as equality of genders. Alexa and Haley discuss how modern feminism has gone beyond its original goals. Extended discussion of feminism's roots including racist suffragette history.

Women's safety, sexual assault, and men as protectors

Reese raises women's safety as a women's issue. Brian counters that men are statistically more likely to be victims of violent crime. Alexa argues strong men are the solution to protecting women from sexual assault. Discussion of violence stats and who perpetrates vs. suffers.

Dating economics: should men pay on dates?

Brian says he splits the check on most dates; has treated girlfriends to Hibachi. He argues low ROI of paying given most first dates don't lead anywhere. Discussion of traditional vs. modern expectations. Brian would pay for trip if girlfriend were traditional/feminine.

Self-ratings round

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Karina: 7.5-8 (SB 8, LA 7). Reese: ~8. Kayla: 8 (6 without makeup, 7.5 with). Rico: 5 (objectively average). Brian: 8.5. Susan: 10 (would not elaborate). Alexa: 6.5-7.5 depending on type.

Body count discussion: should it matter?

Extended panel debate on whether body count should matter in relationships. Rico discloses ~200-300. Kayla discloses up to ~100 (from sex work context). Alexa body count under 10. Karina declines; Lindsay declines. Susan refuses (declined). Brian jokes "73" for Karina. Frankie K superchat on oxytocin receptor desensitization from high body count read aloud. Brian argues body count is a valid preference for men seeking long-term partners.

Promiscuous women as mothers debate

Rico argues if you don't care what goes in, you won't care what comes out. Alexa strongly disagrees, arguing people can grow and change. Discussion of whether past promiscuity predicts poor motherhood.

Pew Research data: 63% of men 18-29 are single vs. 34% of women

Brian screens Pew Research chart showing significantly more young men are single than women (63% vs. 34% ages 18-29). Panel discusses causes: women dating older men, top-tier men monopolizing options, women miscounting their relationship status. Karina suggests some women think they're in relationships that men don't consider real.

Patrice O'Neal clip: "if you didn't have a vagina, how would you keep your man?"

Panel watches Patrice O'Neal clip asking women how they'd keep a man if they lost their vagina. Guests answer: oral sex. Patrice's point that women classified themselves as "a series of holes." Alexa responds with "make better sandwiches." Panel discusses whether sex is spiritual/significant.

Transcript

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Lindsay (DT63)men that don't they don't what does that do for a society like I understand we're thinking that it's a small minded oh just me I'm gonna do this this gets me off I enjoyed this but what like do you think this would be

Lindsay (DT63)a good thing if you know everyone in America or you know that was the the um like quota that's what everyone's doing when

Rico (DT63)well that used to be the that it used to be how the world was the and we've been followed to marriages committed marriages right because that's what was better for society but now we

Rico (DT63)live in a world with social media where the women y'all you decide who you date if there's dudes that don't get anything so you guys decide to

Rico (DT63)smash the dudes that are six eight six four abs attractive blah blah blah blah you don't pick the other guys right that's natural selection yeah I guess

Susan (DT63)you're where are you going it depends on who you're talking to yeah so I I don't go for the I won't blank height and abs okay right you go for guys you can be

Susan (DT63)mean to huh you go for guys you can be mean to no I go for I go for men because I do agree like my okay I like making my money right I love working

Susan (DT63)um that is something that I'm passionate about however I still like to be taken care of so I want someone that has their stuff together but then I'm also dating

Susan (DT63)in my 30s mid 30s almost 40s right so it's different than like when I was dating in my 20s you guys are all in your 20s you're in your 30s right men in

Susan (DT63)their 30s I still consider are like in your 20s you know I tend to date older right but those older men are still going to date younger women correct I'm younger than the older men

Susan (DT63)yes so right right but she's in a different age bracket baby I'm in a good age bracket I believe right now because I've have you guys ever seen those memes it's like don't play with me I could

Susan (DT63)date you or your daddy I mean that I'm like I'm sorry guys I'm I'm right there right now my yeah right but I don't I don't think you understand what I'm saying

Rico (DT63)a man okay what age of men are you saying that you date I usually like today at least 40s and uh so what do you think is a man's Prime

Susan (DT63)when does a guy hit his man hit his prime I think they don't start maturing I'm not I'm sorry for the ones that are mature um I think that they don't get it out of

Susan (DT63)that because maybe I came from Los Angeles and the you know you see guys that are like 39 36 still in the club

Rico (DT63)that's not a good look right for me when do guys hit their Prime

Susan (DT63)so when do women hit their Prime well it just depends because JLo's in her 50s and she looks better than she was in her 20s JLo's bank account is also very very correct so we can't

Susan (DT63)really see us we don't care about money we don't care about your money we don't care about how much money you make don't worry about the script I'm not yeah I'm not don't worry about it into the mic

Susan (DT63)into the mic don't worry so you know the thing is different standards are changing wait but if you had if you had to say when do women hit their Prime it really

Rico (DT63)depends on the woman oh we do men judge what a woman's Prime is right okay for I think so what what at what age do you think men

Alexa (DT63)I like myself in my 30s but earlier 30s no not you think outside of yourself I'm sorry I'm just so sorry like literal like physical health or all

Rico (DT63)over or we're talking about when it comes to dating what men are attracted to what would what would men say that a woman's Prime is I'm saying early 20s so

Rico (DT63)if we're early 20s yeah exactly so why would a guy in his 40s in his prime not want a woman in their Prime although okay if you're thinking like back in the

Susan (DT63)day okay like like biologically healthy bodies on the younger scale right as you get older it's just you know when I turn 40 and I

Rico (DT63)have money and I want to have a family I'm not going to pick a woman that's in her 30s okay well

Susan (DT63)it was like like unless you have a lot of money like it's more dangerous to have kids after your 30s but I know I agree okay we agree technically it's 45 if you want to be healthy and if you're

Susan (DT63)like smoking weed or drinking or whatever then you're gonna compromise yourself too so you know um

Susan (DT63)I don't want to get that detailed about it like with me I waited way too long because I'm like gonna be 36 this year as far as children but

Susan (DT63)um but I do want kids but it's like I'm gonna put them on Ice pretty soon like extracting my eggs you're gonna do that I I really that's my plan because I'm

Susan (DT63)not just gonna go and find Slick Rick and then just get knocked up like I've like I'm careful because I want to create with a human being that I am

Susan (DT63)gonna have to be able to co-parent with whether we're married or not ideally marriage right but it's like you there's so many people

Susan (DT63)that just hate their spouse and they stay together for the children I'm sorry okay so just to answer your question um I'm gonna give men a little more

Lindsay (DT63)credit and say the ones that know that they want to settle down eventually have kids be married I think that they know it a relatively young age I'm gonna guess like 20. so if you know that you

Lindsay (DT63)know you want to be looking for a wife in your early 20s this is for the subset of men who are like I know I want to get married they're probably going to be looking to women around their own age so

Lindsay (DT63)I that's why I think we see marriages commonly between like 25 and 35 with you know uh non-age Gap marriages but then of course older 40 year old men want

Lindsay (DT63)women in their Prime and if women want security and you know if I'm 22 and I just want security and this older man and he has the security and wants a young woman that's why you see that together so I I don't know how this goes

Haley (DT63)I have a question for you so you said when you're like in your 40s you want to settle down and you'd pick a woman in her 20s like in her prime time yes okay what happens when she's 35 past your prime time

Rico (DT63)you still committed just get a different one right would you stay committed yeah okay okay no I was just wondering I was just putting that uh put in the work put in the equity yeah I put in yeah you got years you got

Karina (DT63)tenure just wondering good me personally I've aged like and I'm I'm 26 I've aged like fine wine I was so like horrendous

Alexa (DT63)I was horrendous age like fine wine yeah that's that's what they say right yes I've heard that have you heard that I think you're beautiful don't want anything when she was younger more

Alexa (DT63)busted like you're not busted at all but she was saying like she didn't know her makeup or hair routine no I just level up as a woman when I was like 20 21 if I

Karina (DT63)showed you pictures like fugly is like not the word right but if you would have found a real one no he would have been like I dated

Karina (DT63)um so I had a relationship in high school it lasted three years and right out of high school my first boyfriend was 20 years older than me 22 years older than me he was 42.

Karina (DT63)and we dated for like two years and I still wasn't at my Prime I was awkward I was well y'all pick horrible men you wanna know why I wasn't

Karina (DT63)obviously because I'm 18 and I'm not even fully developed at all like I like my brain is my two brain cells are dancing together like what

Alexa (DT63)I kind of I'm not gonna lie I kind of agree with you to a point to a point and I know I was talking about I earlier I did like in the conversation I did actually agree with you about like the

Alexa (DT63)two parent household I was just saying that guy's argument sucked but what I'm saying I agree with you to a point because even in myself I do question my own choices and who I pick as a partner and I attribute that a lot to like maybe

Alexa (DT63)I have something internal where like because of what happened with my dad like that's influencing my choices and as far as like the whole Prime thing goes what the actual problem is too is

Alexa (DT63)that like Evolution and biology hasn't caught up to modern medicine people used to die at 40. so it makes sense that women get into prime childbearing years from 14 to 30 because they would die

Alexa (DT63)shortly after because we didn't have antibiotics you know what I'm saying but now people are living to like 80 and men can just keep reproducing I saw a lot of comments about like population and for the population there's like eight billion people we don't need any more

Alexa (DT63)people like that's also a stupid argument but I do kind of agree with you that like of course men are going to be attracted to women in their child bearing years which is much younger as far as like mental development have you

Alexa (DT63)tried to have a conversation with like an 18 year old lately like a a like when I like when I was 18 I was attracted to 18 year olds when I'm like 27 I look at an 18 year old and it looks like a

Alexa (DT63)little boy so it's like that's the disconnect I think and it's like there's value in older women because it's like you you have an age experience

Lindsay (DT63)like I find that so not a good argument because I'm saying I agree with the button no I think that you just put out a really bold statement the way that women hate the way men do oh oh older

Lindsay (DT63)women do this they're all young women or that I think that you become smart through experiences and reading and listening to smart people rather than just aging I agree with you you can age

Alexa (DT63)well you can read age knowledgeably or you cannot so just being older does not make you smarter I agree with you 100 what I that was a very broad generalization what I'm saying is like

Alexa (DT63)if I have a conversation with the 50 year old we don't have [ __ ] in common we come from a different time it's not about you don't have anything like no it's like even just like socially or like when you go to like social justice

TTS Readerissues politically like all there's just age difference does kind of matter when I'm not saying people can't okay women age like milk in the summer

Brian AtlasSouthern Sunshine who are welcome for the alliteration wow that was especially that was poetic markovius thank you very much for that yo by the way Eric I uh I

Brian Atlasclicked off one of the other super chats if you can show that one um

Alexa (DT63)no I really didn't mean to demean younger people I'm just saying you're at different points in your life what I wanted at 18 is very different than what I wanted at 27. so it's like you gotta find somebody regardless of age what

Alexa (DT63)aligns with you so it's like when I say I'm talking to 18 year old boy that's not somebody that probably wants to settle down and have a family and get married so it's like that's why I'm saying there's a disconnect but biologically of course older men are going to be attracted to younger women

Karina (DT63)so I agree with you and I agree with like the whole like parental figure things also yeah it's a parental it's totally a parental thing and I think it's like a it's a strong word I don't even know can

Karina (DT63)I use it the G word grooming is that a thing what grooming what does that have to do with anything well like we're talking about older guys we're talking about adult relationships

Brian Atlasthat's irrelevant right but I'm not going to even entertain that conversation older men who are attracted to younger women are not grooming

Karina (DT63)grooming is in the context of like no yeah that's and that's not what I meant at all I meant it very Loosely as like my experience for example when I'm 18

Karina (DT63)dating a somebody who's 20 years older than me what what is the reason for that because you don't care anyway and I didn't have any of that let's take those factors away money security all that

Karina (DT63)other stuff that actually matters what I actually wanted was like essentially a father figure somebody who can like tell me what's up with life somebody who who could guide me through life and that's

Karina (DT63)what I needed got that philosophy out the way and it's like cool I can start dating somebody who's like younger and more around my bracket of age that's my personal experience and I just wanted to interject and say that that's possible

Karina (DT63)that's possibly why you would be interested in the in a younger woman because you could instill what happens with male and female relationships is males and still their philosophies to women and women we either if we love them we're going to catch on to those

Karina (DT63)philosophies and we're gonna be like okay great like I'm now this might be my political party or I agree with well no you have to do that to like you have to

Karina (DT63)bring your girl or on your same wavelength if you want to start a family if she's going to be a mom to your children right absolutely you want to have the same absolutely and I think it's easier to do it when it's younger chick but yeah yeah because everyone

Susan (DT63)else is like stuck in there I mean it's healthier as far as the body maybe but like mentally it's not for everybody

Susan (DT63)like honestly mentally like you're bringing a child into the world if you're still a child that can't even take care of yourself how are you going to take care of another human being what

Lindsay (DT63)child can't take what are you talking about you know what I'm born with inherent maternal instinct instincts and I think that there is such the great moms and I know financially they can't take care himself so I'm a

Lindsay (DT63)little confused where you're going with this because if you have Amanda provide you with money and security what do you need to do that for if you already have maternal instincts and I think that most women are born with those and that's why

Alexa (DT63)most women become good moms but you can't I agree young moms are amazing moms and moms are the best yeah we can go on all day about that but there's something to be said about age and

Alexa (DT63)experience and experience life experience a lot happens in your 20s and things level out getting ran through in baggage and Trauma yeah

Alexa (DT63)then why aren't they wifing us early why are they running around town like you know if they don't want us ran through and baggage trauma why are they like wait they're waiting till like how are we so are so at 20 I should be looking

Alexa (DT63)for 40 year olds that are ready like I don't know how to use necessarily I don't know how you it sounds like just a losing battle all around if you look at it it's like all the responsibilities but it depends on if you're a wife all

Rico (DT63)all wives are found always if you're 20 years old and you're a wife you're going to be found period in a story um I'm also going to play the devil's agate

Susan (DT63)so you know in the perfect world yes like I you know had a few opportunities to get married but I'm very selfish

Susan (DT63)and just you know like at least you admitted huh yeah and I like my sleep that is why I've postponed from having children because I even

Susan (DT63)cried when I got my puppy and he would keep me up at night I'm like oh my God I made such a mistake but like I'm just postponing them for sleep we postpone having children for sleep

Susan (DT63)yeah like I'm selfish and I like my sleep and so when I have a kid that kid's gonna be my life right so if I

Susan (DT63)like my sleep either have a kid or don't have a kid probably shouldn't have a kid correct why I don't have a kid okay thank you but no people I think that

Susan (DT63)it's very easy to raise children and that's why people are like I wonder why are you so many people are going to jail or doing this or doing that right does anybody else here have a kid or am I the only one who has a kid a kid here

Brian Atlasbecause I'm really the only one who can speak on the topic of even having and raising a child well I mean we all we're all adults and we all have rational faculties

Kayla (DT63)I completely understand uh what you're saying like the mental Readiness of having a kid you are never going to be ready to have a kid never especially as

Kayla (DT63)a woman especially as a woman only women have kids

Susan (DT63)and that is not cool but it happens like we're not in a perfect Society you know it's yeah anyway a question question so what to you is a wife

Rico (DT63)how do you qualify how do you get tenure ah there we go boom so a wife is uh someone who is uh coachable agreeable nice

Rico (DT63)um patient caring trusting loyal I would say beautiful inside and out um

Rico (DT63)not promiscuous so what now what to you is a husband um protector provider leader um

Alexa (DT63)you call it um what's the word yeah guidance yeah so in your opinion how many men

Alexa (DT63)currently just and what age ranges do you think are actually ready to step into that role versus how many women are out there ready to step in that role

Alexa (DT63)there are way more husbands than there are wives I like way more okay women are specific like think about your friendship group how many of them are ready to be want to oh well well let's

Lindsay (DT63)think about this how many women are promiscuous I don't know well a lot a lot you wouldn't know better than me I know trust me would you consider would you consider yourself a husband huh

Rico (DT63)no I still I still I personally still have some growth to do just financially but I know fair enough so do you how how would you feel so like as

Lindsay (DT63)when I get married I hope that my husband never had a stage where he was dating multiple women at the time I want to be with a man that always had his eye on one person and will not have a

Rico (DT63)Wandering eye so you know that probably that is uh you're looking for a unicorn well I'm sorry I shouldn't say dating one person at a time because I think that

Lindsay (DT63)sacred nowadays like when I think of dating I think of like you know back in the day oh yeah I dated this person I went out with them I'm having dinner yeah like going on a date with someone that's what I consider dating having you

Lindsay (DT63)know so it's totally fine with me if my future husband is dating multiple people at a time going to dinner with her seeing her whatever but what it sounds like you are in is like a polyamorous

Lindsay (DT63)relationship and I would not be okay with marrying someone who has previously been in a polyamorously defined relationship like I said earlier

Rico (DT63)men that can get women always like does your boyfriend watch porn yeah actually not right now he he has in the past but okay so so that means he

Lindsay (DT63)wants other women we we no we no that's exactly what it means

Lindsay (DT63)reality honest like no you're adult you're as fast as possible we've been dating since they were 14 and 16. so when he's 16 and like a young guy at the peak of his sexual drive how are you

Lindsay (DT63)gonna say that now he like I just think that's unfair to say because he watched porn when he was younger he he has a Wandering eye no I'm saying apparently like watch porn right now yeah does he

Brian Atlaswatch porn now he does not how do you know girlfriend knows we've talked about it he doesn't I know we've talked about it all right I'm gonna move this along okay we have a super chat here from uh marquavius

Brian AtlasMartin hey thank you man ladies can oh hold on let me hide that asteroid there whoops okay complimentary asteroid yo marquavius thank you man ladies can you name one thing that women have been given autonomy over and haven't

Brian Atlasdecimated in real time uh educational system corporate world social media voting consumerism child raising marriage and relationships even gyms we live in a patriarchal fund it's

Lindsay (DT63)a matrix keeps on coming I don't know can I answer this uh sure marquavius thank you man I would say child raising

Lindsay (DT63)um I think that women continue to be in general good strong mothers but I think that the the reason kids are so weak and soft these days is and not entirely to the man's fault there is no testosterone

Lindsay (DT63)in our society anymore so there is not as much of a masculine influence over our kids is masculinity frowned upon currently it is and I think that that is awful I think that we've stripped men of

Brian Atlastheir masculinity I think masculinity is very important as is femininity and that's why and you basically have women who have become more masculine and

Susan (DT63)men who have become more feminine correct and I think it's her and who do we have to blame for that media social media feminism eating too I

Susan (DT63)agree no eating too much soy there's a lot of estrogen in soy products and everything it's true sure I suppose diet and flat there's Plastics out there and

Lindsay (DT63)it's water it's not just it's not just diet it's not just the singular consumer's fault our our structures and our in our you know I'm all for capitalism but Capital capitalism has

Lindsay (DT63)emphasized you know just profit margins with with with worse products therefore just you know overuse soil and put soy in everything and it's not necessarily

Lindsay (DT63)men's fault but like our you know the people running our country have just like disintegrated with like the the just basis of what human beings should interact with we're all slaves wait hold

Brian Atlason I want to give recent opportunity here because you made a little face I've been making a lot of faces what was this most recent face about oh oh pertaining to what part I think a lot of things

Reese (DT63)feminism is to blame no it's so feminism it's a flame um because the way that I view feminism and the way I believe that like it's technically defined it's it's about equality between men and women it's not

Brian Atlastrying to make men less masculine or women melodious erroneous what the [ __ ] why does the asteroid keep coming I like it wait Eric you're gonna have to hide that what the [ __ ] start

Reese (DT63)civilization over is what they're saying yeah I don't know why it's uh yeah I don't know why I'm not just hide it uh okay go ahead but anyways it's

Reese (DT63)about equality it's about equality and I personally don't view exploring the spectrum of masculinity and femininity between both genders to be necessarily A

Haley (DT63)Bad Thing can I respond to that I think feminism today has gone a lot further than equality and I think modern feminism is a lot different than feminism was maybe in the

Brian Atlas70s right yeah I agree I mean feminism's always been a man-hating ideology however it's taken uh quite some steps forward in that

Brian Atlasrecently uh I I reject this idea that feminism is about equality and here's why I believe feminism in its most if I

Brian Atlasgive it the most generous definition is a women's advocacy movement there's nothing that's great women's advocacy is great however that's not the same as equality

Brian Atlasfeminism feminists don't advocate for equality if said equality comes to the detriment of women so if there is no benefit to be reaped

Brian Atlasby said equality in terms of benefit that benefits women feminists will not pursue it so you'll fight for equality if said

Brian Atlasequality benefits women but none of it doesn't not if it doesn't yeah so take for example the right to vote women for a period of time I mean it's a very small period of time when we're

Brian Atlaslooking at it but for a period of time men have the right to vote women didn't and well the reason why that is is because men had responsibilities chiefly in order for you to be able to vote as a man you had

Brian Atlasto be subject to military conscription women never had that core that responsibility but they never had that option that's a

Brian Atlasprivilege that's a privilege to not go to the Argonne forest in France in 1917 and go get chemical gas by the Germans that's a privilege part of that's biological though like we're we're

Alexa (DT63)weaker like genetically we're weaker yeah the only society that was like that was like the Vikings and like women fought side by side with men but like we are grown man strength is different and you guys have different skill sets just

Alexa (DT63)like you men are physically Superior like in when it comes to just like actual physicality and like knowledge of the the body yeah like you know what is that Kinesiology that's fine yes that

Brian Atlasmakes sense yes I agree with you men are physically stronger men make better better soldiers it's true however that doesn't change the fact that some poor 18 year old boy in Kentucky had to go the [ __ ] the Maginot Line in France

Brian Atlasand go get trench foot and get [ __ ] obliterated by a shell in 1918. I agree you know I I don't know if you guys know the body count on the the death counts in or the casualties in World War one and World War II which are almost

Brian Atlasexclusively male casualties who started the wars actually they've done studies on this queens were much more likely to wage Wars than Kings in any case so saying that okay so okay Jesus Christ

TTS Readerwell Brian you said never say never in a screw you way bring on Gavin McGinnis you throw old people with feminists for Trump well you've got away with it is he

Brian Atlasso much different maybe ER better at walking the line and you I know it his voice matters Constitution exists yo Aaron Chambers thank you for the big 200 donation

Brian Atlasum I I might be down to bring on Gavin uh well we'll see we'll see but uh Hey thank you man so much for that big uh 200 donation man that's huge man thank you um so you said that men are to blame for

Brian Atlasthe world say that I just asked the question okay so I'm trying to return to my original point which was the responsibilities that men take on versus women yeah yeah so

Brian Atlasyou don't see women fighting to equalize the draft that would be equality but I don't hear there's women aren't in the streets demanding that they also be drafted

Alexa (DT63)or be subject I would I I would agree with you that Society is extremely unfair to men and that the burden that they have on them and the box that they're put in is like substantially

Alexa (DT63)unequal and while women have their issues and those are important as well I don't think it's right to just dismiss men's issues at all however okay we can look at like the queens and other

Alexa (DT63)societies but talking about America let's keep it to America we didn't create the system do we benefit off of it in some ways yes did we fight to change it yes did it go too far in some

Alexa (DT63)places yes and you use logic and knowledge and debate in common sense to try and get to a place that's good for everybody but it's like saying that men have problems too

Alexa (DT63)shouldn't discredit any like women's women's issues because also real Quicks I know like not all women have the right to vote super like long ago it was 1964 when black and brown women got the right

Alexa (DT63)to vote but um which is very recent but also um and it shouldn't happen the other way around check on that I'm not convinced that's when the Civil Rights Movement was um

Haley (DT63)um so then also when do you think it was well I know I like to vote before a woman

Alexa (DT63)the Civil Rights Movement was 1964. just but I'm not sure that's related to voting there were others voting rights they did technically have the right way illegally however they had all these

Brian Atlaskind of like um roadblocks okay so you're talking about intersectionality yes at the end of the day women got the right to vote in 1920. white women that does matter though all women got the right to vote

Alexa (DT63)in 1920 not equitably but we're getting off track because now you're with that information we're getting off point though because my point is also that like women's

Alexa (DT63)issues shouldn't negate men's issues either like at all and what issues do you have as a woman what issue do you have what issues do y'all have I would

Reese (DT63)love to hear we're not always safe in all spaces who's safe and also I'm not safe in all spaces no I agree with you we're more subject to other preaching before that you're a protector I mean

Reese (DT63)you're gonna be safer in a lot more space

Alexa (DT63)let's talk about that that's what I mean I I didn't want to like golf all the way there but that's like a main thing that women have to worry about literally every single day even just like and the solution to sexuals like walking out

Alexa (DT63)strong men actually who will protect you from sexual assault that's the solution sexual is more strong men oh yeah no I I'm not saying my whole point is that our issues shouldn't negate men's issues

Alexa (DT63)in society is set up unfair for many people in many ways but to say like oh well feminism is just like man-hating it's just like a myopic view it's really

Alexa (DT63)not but it should be womanism as well feminism is problematic because that's feminism yeah I don't think I mean men and women should be equal you don't think yeah may we please change this

Kayla (DT63)what do you mean how so I don't think I don't think we are equal I think men have a different role in this world and so do women we have opposite roles I think we should have similar

Karina (DT63)opportunities perhaps but the choices for the opportunities because everybody I think if a woman wants to live a masculine lifestyle that's her decision

Karina (DT63)but it's not the right one oh and I think that okay I wasn't co-signing all of that what for procreation like women

Rico (DT63)are awesome there's eight billion what about what about lgbtqia I don't support oh [ __ ] is this a valve do you know in America the death rate is higher than

Brian Atlasthe birth rate we do need to procreate I just want to address one thing a few of you guys said when he was you got we were bringing up the being assaulted and stuff being worried walking home at night actually men are more likely to be

Brian Atlasvictims of violent crime violent crime who's more likely to commitment it doesn't also the gender of the perpetrator of a CR of

Brian Atlassomeone who has victimized you doesn't undo the fact that you've just been victimized so it's kind of you're right relevant but you can't negate like who are the main

Alexa (DT63)perpetrators and who are like the victim like it what is exactly it's a Min problem what's that got to do with women when I spoke earlier I was like primarily talking about sexual assault

Alexa (DT63)we're more and that is not to negate all the men that have been sexually assaulted at all but if you want to look at the numbers primarily women are not at a higher if not if you look at the prison uh statistics

Alexa (DT63)I'm more likely to get like my point is that like women didn't create prisons like we didn't set up the systems that are causing the damage the world either

Brian Atlasexactly in certain ways and men do too so you think that if women happen to have been in charge no I'm not saying can you stop interrupting sorry if if women happen to

Alexa (DT63)have been in charge you think they wouldn't have established a justice system that includes incarceration no I think the way that the American industrial prison system is actually just [ __ ] up in general and people

Alexa (DT63)shouldn't be put in cages there are examples of other countries that actually rehabilitate their um like incarcerated people yeah and I'm not this is very like socialist like um you don't believe in going to jail no that's

Alexa (DT63)not what we just talk about rainbows and butterflies no I was gonna say can we get to like some fun questions honestly dating

Brian Atlasbut but just on on the whole like well it's done by other men so it's just like so men are killed by other men therefore that's not a problem okay let me put it in one thing and we

Alexa (DT63)can okay honestly move on ten seconds the issue is not male female that's all shifting social norms and practices the issue is people in power power corrupts people there's plenty of experience

Alexa (DT63)Stanford Prison Experiment go watch it on Netflix that is a perfect example about how any person that gets power can it can corrupt them the same with um that's so true yeah like when you

Alexa (DT63)studied like Nazi Germany so you're making it a male female issue and it's becoming divisive when really the issue is where how we should look at our similarities and how we can help each other and it's like not productive to be

Brian Atlaslike what about what about what about isms I agree with you I agree with you I mean but you have feminists to blame for this because feminist the core tenet of

Brian Atlasfeminism is the page patriarchy Theory men as a class were the oppressors it's basically Marxism communism men's the class oppressed women women as a class are the oppressed what does that teach

Brian Atlaswomen to feel about men nothing good if you teach this to women you're basically teaching women to have contempt for men and that's what we're seeing playing out in real time

Brian Atlasfeminisms are excuse me feminists are the ones who have perpetuated this patriarchy Theory feminists are the one who pitted men

Brian Atlasagainst women and women against men now we as men are pushing back and saying we're saying actually no there are some things that are shitty to us too

Alexa (DT63)so we're playing the feminist game yeah I agree feminism is actually really problematic and its whole ideation from the beginning of its conception but it literally my whole point is that I'm

Alexa (DT63)agreeing with you is that men's issues shouldn't negate women's because there are no yeah and women's issues should not negate amends because women can't just be like well you guys don't have to

Alexa (DT63)deal with this so shut up like you created this like I am making the point that like we are not to blame for the benefits that we do get for you know like being pretty girls and getting in free stuff and stuff men don't get that

Alexa (DT63)privilege men are very [ __ ] on in society and they don't get to enjoy certain things like women do and they don't get to have the same freedoms when it comes to expression wait uh you go

Kayla (DT63)ahead then go ahead I said I think men do get those privileges sometimes a lot of men's I have been with and like even girls that I've seen on this show have

Kayla (DT63)said I have literally paid for a bum ass dude whole relationship and it's very common because men are more fun feminine now that's the exception not the rule

Lindsay (DT63)yeah we are talking in generalities yeah I have a question Brian if we lived in Bryan world what would laws look like in the sense of like equality like would

Karina (DT63)women have the right to vote like I'm just wondering well I have total power I get rid of voting okay

Brian AtlasI'm keeping the power I'm just gonna be this is going to be an authoritarian regime I will how many concubines I will lead us to the promised land first off first off here's what I do the big thing is

Lindsay (DT63)was that like a serious question or just well no I just like because this where this I'm interested I also agree uh feminism is a man-hating concept but I also am

Lindsay (DT63)so proud to be an American and I love the freedom that I have with my country and if I were back in the 70s I do think that I would fight for the right to vote I would fight for the right to work I have two jobs I love to work it's you

Lindsay (DT63)know but one day I also want to be a mom and all those things so I think that there is somewhat of a balance like I think that the feminist movement did achieve some good things and this is kind of what I'm asking you do you

Lindsay (DT63)um do you think that the feminism movement as a whole should have just not happened and it should have stayed you know pretty cut and clean women in the house men go to work or do you think

Lindsay (DT63)that we could have a little bit of Improvement so are you talking like throughout history where do you think the feminist should have stopped

Brian Atlaswell I mean you know even the early suffragettes first off they were the early feminist movements if you look up the Seneca Falls con convention or

Brian Atlassomething in any case feminists were brutally racist yeah so I mean there's just like a that's what I mean it's [ __ ] up from the start I mean

Brian AtlasI'm I believe in egalitarianism so true equality between men and women that's not feminism okay I agree so I I mean I think I don't

Lindsay (DT63)agree with egalitarianism you don't agree with the egalitarianism yes but um so what do you say you want Equity not equality no I certainly don't want

Alexa (DT63)Equity Equity means playing your your role and and having it dividing from my understanding I could be wrong equality is like everybody gets exactly the same

Alexa (DT63)thing handed to them Equity is everybody gets what's handed to them that works for them specifically based on their like identity and intersectionality I'm

Brian Atlaswell I'm in favor of equality of um what's the term equality of opportunity but I'm not in favor of equality of outcome

Alexa (DT63)I agree with you but you bet I'm saying is like what like more for Equity then because like say some okay so is equity uh equality of outcome because I'm not in favor of that no equity is like Okay so this

Lindsay (DT63)person has it is about a quality of outcome Equity is getting what you need to achieve the same thing as everyone else and and that puts us in a communist kind

Lindsay (DT63)of headspace where people lose their right to or lose the um but some people just to think and dream and do great things and you know come up with yeah

Alexa (DT63)I'm not I'm not going for communism here at all I I just mean like some people are historically more disadvantaged than others based on their identity what

Alexa (DT63)identity are you alluding to you could let's just go for a reason okay yeah like there's clear racism that's not a secret and some people have disadvantages systematic disadvantages

Alexa (DT63)because of that like so Equity some men have disadvantages yeah and if you're all the layers actually all all men all men in this country are systematically

Susan (DT63)discriminated against okay it's almost Grandma's bedtime can we please change the subject yeah we're gonna I mean if you want you can leave like I don't I mean we're just talking about it but uh

Alexa (DT63)but let's throw some fun stuff because like yeah lighten it up a little little bit a little bit a little bit like what's everybody's Kinks come on come on somebody mute somebody mute her mic for seven minutes so she doesn't bring it

Brian Atlasback to intersectionality and hey all right let me move it on let me move it on let me move it on you know all right so let me see do we have uh thank you marquavius for derailing the

Brian Atlasconversation there for uh thank you man um okay we have Ryan the eating Warrior thank you for the 100 man Asian Corner chick needs to be silent LOL it's not her show

Susan (DT63)okay right now a stack is one thousand dollars and I will keep my mouth shut and actually leave the building wow oh okay all right thousand dollars I will

Brian Atlasleave the building and she'll say yes send it through streamlabs yo by the way Ryan's a Chad look at that profile picture like he's got the [ __ ] beard and yeah that's totally

Karina (DT63)him the eating Warrior okay what do you eat all right so he's like I'm vegan all right why don't we uh let's let me try to bring it back to uh

Brian Atlaswomen's ship is terrible what does that say can you read that would I okay is that Carrie no this one right here growth Carrie hello

Brian Atlaslet's go through left-handed scuffed okay um so I know I'm the rank Queen y'all I'm sorry

Reese (DT63)do women have game yes yeah and you need it absolutely yes yes all right I I want to vouch for her she has some of the craziest games I've ever seen him I mean

Ella (DT63)I'll start with talking about the fact that I also date other women so that does you already have to step up yeah you know it's is it do you think it's harder dealing with men or women different and I think it's harder to

Karina (DT63)deal with [ __ ] but there can be [ __ ] that are men or women fair enough okay who here else thinks they have game I think you need game to keep a relationship like how else do you keep

Karina (DT63)it spicy also men love conflict so every once in a while what listen I'm not I'm not saying like let me um I'm not saying like let me see your phone let me see this why are you

Karina (DT63)talking to her not that [ __ ] I'm saying like Jesus Christ you know what it's okay I understand you guys have never had great amazing mind-blowing sex it's okay I get

Rico (DT63)it I get it oh my God women love conflict and drama and I'm going to tell you why I'm gonna tell you why so so do men and this is going back to this the world is hard

Karina (DT63)enough we don't need drama from you guys the fun stuff what okay okay you know what it's so okay to be vanilla like I Love Missionary like put in a girl beat a

Karina (DT63)girl can be good in bed and also bring you peace no she should only bring peace like in a flirty way

Karina (DT63)y'all can't back me up on this side okay all the time like it's like like that's your best friend like that's your best friend that's like you guys can go like banter back and forth no my girl is not

Karina (DT63)my any girlfriend is not my best friend I have guys that are my best friend my girlfriend is my girlfriend I'm I'm just saying in like a best friend okay so women should have opinions I guess

Brian Atlasthat's not what he said but you said conflict you said conflict yeah I don't think anyone man or woman wants like a little like a little spice during nope you know like spiced during what

Karina (DT63)during just the relationship like if every single day is just the same cycle over and over again like that's why men cheat no you need a little bit of like you need a little bit of like even fake

Rico (DT63)like fake jealousy or just no no I didn't know I get what you're saying like oh my God it's okay the whole you know the whole Trope that nice guys finished last or whatever the

Rico (DT63)reason why is because think about it we'll say let's say 200 300 years ago you had a girl or whatever blah blah blah you went to work if you went to work or you went on a you went out

Rico (DT63)there was a chance you might not come back so the whole time that you're going away from your woman or whatever she's [ __ ] the her mind's racing you know that there's constant like worry or

Rico (DT63)whatever so but now we live in a day where there's no worry you can you know like so women women because yeah women need that drama that drama isn't great like we and I think men do too to

Lindsay (DT63)understand that we care or no no we don't we don't think we are we are completely obviously the same drive out of having an intelligent conversation that possibly you disagree with yes disagree yes is

Lindsay (DT63)important in the relationship simple I don't think it needs to be oh my god did you look at her ass it can be hey let's talk politics let's agree let's get mad at each other let's realize that we love each other and this is why we're together and it's great to disagree and expand each other's brains because I

Rico (DT63)agree if you're dating someone that you're just constantly oh I agree oh I agree we're peace we're peace it gets boring it gets boring right but what I'm saying is don't think like that we don't want we

Rico (DT63)don't want we don't I think that y'all need that drama y'all need y'all need your emotions spiked women though what that's why you love women women keep that like

Lindsay (DT63)I think that when you say like oh men aren't interested in that that's why I'm not interested in most men and and then again this is a dating podcast where we talk about General things but in my opinion I want to be with someone that I

Lindsay (DT63)can have good intellectual conversation no I'm not saying that that's right that there are men out there that also value that in a woman so maybe not no I agree I would love to have great conversations and whatever but I don't need conflict I

Rico (DT63)don't need no not conflict but disagreeing is no I don't why do I need it why do I need disagree I don't need a disagreement I don't need I don't need that why would anyone need a disagreement because it's fun you're challenged

Alexa (DT63)you're intellectually challenged so it's not necessarily that like you can agree to disagree like I'm sure a lot of people are telling me to shut the [ __ ] up and I talk too much and that's I get it I do talk too much but like being

Alexa (DT63)intellectually challenged and stimulated if you want to be with somebody for 40 50 Years bro you're gonna get bored like if she's just like yeah honey but like I mean you still gotta bring in the other

Rico (DT63)you being a man is boring we go to work every day we being a man is boring life isn't you've never like got into a fight with your girl and then like the sexist phenomenon because you have like some it

Brian Atlasain't worth the fight no well okay y'all date toxic dudes yeah and I don't do that but the level of I'm saying y'all dating bums if you want to have

Brian Atlasthat toxic makeup sex [ __ ] any guy who's like on his purpose he's already stressed out enough with his job and like we don't we don't want to have to

Brian Atlasbe in a relationship with a girl that only adds to our stress levels I'm not saying that she's just saying sprinkle it in I didn't I didn't we don't want sprinkles we don't want well that's what

Karina (DT63)that's what she wanted to be an excitement vanilla and wax why does it have to be tied about sex like because all of that all of that intertwines into because what is the

Brian Atlaspurpose of a relationship what's wrong with what is the purpose sometimes vanilla is good

Brian Atlasreally quick on the vanilla thing what's up with the rough sex meta why y'all wanting to be choked and hidden [ __ ] can't we just like can I not physically abuse you during sex could that would would that be so hard to ask huh he

Kayla (DT63)loves can we not I don't think it's about um being like physically abusive during sex I think it's like I want a man to be assertive and take control and men really well some men do but a lot of men

Rico (DT63)don't they do men that have been with a lot of women Brian what are you munch bro this is such a weird time

Brian Atlasa Munch is a guy that goes down on girls oh you're a hero no I I don't do that at all I wouldn't support Brian Landon another one another one actually I would

Brian Atlasoutlaw it and Brian well only only for a man you don't have my vote but what about equality bro it's different

Karina (DT63)though it's different no we don't need any of that it's different anyway so the purpose of relationship you're asking why why does it always go back to sex what's the purpose of a relationship companionship procreation technically

Karina (DT63)bro mostly most of the time most the time I spend with a girl is not having sex no no and it shouldn't be and if it and if it that's kinky but that's not a real relationship at all right sure but the ultimate goal of you establishing

Karina (DT63)this bond with her is so that you could maybe possibly create a family or so you can like do the do with her so but okay and this kind of so all of that which is why I'm saying the sprinkles and the to

Brian Atlascreate a whole entire okay I see what you're saying let me so I'll adjust that so excuse me I [ __ ] the water went okay stop it what the [ __ ] bro

Brian AtlasI'm gonna blame it I don't know if it's um hold on stop it what the get some help who's up towards Eric you're gonna have to hide it so

Alexa (DT63)you're saying the sprinkles right and you're saying uh what was the thing you're saying oh my God my voice died sorry it's okay it's been on it's been a long day it's been it's been a minute

Brian Atlasum throughout's been through a bit today huh pause unpause my water got all [ __ ] up here I'll come back I'll come back to that do you want to go on something I know you want

Rico (DT63)oh um you were saying uh what'd you say about uh you're talking about the purpose of a relationship

Rico (DT63)it's a relationship different than not the purpose yeah no no I know what I was gonna say so you were talking about like spice like being spicy or whatever blah blah blah like

Rico (DT63)if I had three four I don't spend a lot of like a man should not be spending a lot of time with a woman like right like he should be [ __ ] busy like and I feel like

Rico (DT63)that like you should yeah there's no more watching my worst relationship like 24 7 we're together so so yeah so right that's awful so what I when you when I you do see that woman or whatever there's she's not she's gonna be excited

Rico (DT63)to see you there's no all right you don't need to be bored you don't yeah like so but within the few times that you're not right you can't there's it's impossible to get bored if you if you miss somebody right so okay a woman misses you she's never gonna get bored of you I couldn't agree with everything

Karina (DT63)you're saying I know I have this question for everybody um do you guys think that we live in a society now where you would you personally would live with your partner in the same house because me personally if I get married even then I think I

Haley (DT63)would want like a separate house not to just like always be in but like just to have my own personal space yeah of course I would I would love to I'm uh I'm 18 me my boyfriend live together right now so yeah I love it yeah

Haley (DT63)like

Karina (DT63)two separate houses connected with a bridge that's like I mean that would be amazing I would

Lindsay (DT63)go right um but I think but we're still close enough in proximity no I think that for the sake of my family I would want them growing up with like a traditional image of a mother and father in the same house all the time oh yeah

Lindsay (DT63)husband left I don't know go yeah go to husband and I don't ever see a point in my life where I'm not working unless I have young children to like take care of at

Lindsay (DT63)home but either way like I hope that my husband and I spend significant time every day apart from each other because then you do value the time you've spent together yeah but I I would hope that I you know I wouldn't marry someone that I

Rico (DT63)didn't want to sleep in the same bed oh for sure I don't know who here dates women but y'all are mean so like hanging out with y'all like an extended period of time is just taking time eventually

Rico (DT63)you're gonna be mad about something yeah for no reason at all so like you have to limit the time to spin around women because you're saying like it's yeah you're saying women get upset for no

Lindsay (DT63)women or for no reason I think that men and women have totally different brains and if you talk to men who have been in marriages for a long time uh from what I've gathered is they can actually

Lindsay (DT63)appreciate the way a woman's brain works so differently no you guys don't get it and we don't get how your brains work we're biologically different no but we have we have to we may have to empathize we have to get you to date you you don't

Lindsay (DT63)have to understand us so we understand you but you don't understand us because you don't have to to date us I don't think that you understand I think that women can more simply understand men than men understand women because women

Lindsay (DT63)are crazy women of you know complicated brains and and I I think that there's validity to that when guys are like girls are so complicated we can't please them they don't want the nice guy they don't want the mean guy we're complicated creatures it's just how

Alexa (DT63)we're made yeah how how is it that we don't understand you guys if like our role like I'm in my relationships I'm pretty submissive in serving and it's like if our role in in my relationships yeah but you have to be able to put me

Brian Atlasin my place you feel me so you're conditionally submit like you're not submissive the entire time would you say you're feminine in relationships yeah very because I am outside of

Alexa (DT63)relationships like obviously a very outspoken person and that has to seep into your relationships um I'm not saying that utter and maybe listen more and talk less like I definitely recognize my

Alexa (DT63)faults and all that but to his point um and I have like a lot of room to grow I'm not saying I'm ready for to be a full wife or you know develop but to your point like if we're in that role

Alexa (DT63)most of the time we have to understand you in order to cater to you you know what I'm saying like we have to anticipate your wants and needs like a good wife in my opinion would like if that's the role I'm speaking more

Reese (DT63)empathy not like empathize with men's issues I want to hear what Rhys has to say on this Rhys what are you going for um okay again on like on women understanding men and vice versa I mean

Reese (DT63)I feel like in my past relationships I've had a pretty good understanding of how my partner's brain works because I feel like if I don't understand them we don't have like a real actual connection like we don't understand each other then what are we doing you know like when I when I'm dating

Reese (DT63)someone I want to have a really deep genuine connection with this person and it shouldn't matter that we're two different genders we should be able to to understand each other right or at least like communicate to get to

Reese (DT63)and understand yeah exactly and that's why communication is so do you do you think that men and women communicate differently yeah we're most I think we tend

Reese (DT63)to use different methods of communication and then it also comes to the point of like you know how much experience you have in communication and how comfortable are you with actually you know using efficient methods of

Lindsay (DT63)communication yeah I think in general and girls correct me if I'm wrong but when a guy pisses me off my first instinct unless we're you know extremely close and I I feel that I can do this

Reese (DT63)without backlash like I I want him to figure out what he did wrong and that's just a that's just a female thing like oh I disagree I actually like well actually I have a tendency if I get really upset with someone I have a

Lindsay (DT63)tendency to go quiet which is a bad habit to happen to know what they did wrong and then eventually they don't understand because we didn't communicate and that's a I won't say a female flaw it's just a female characteristic we you

Lindsay (DT63)know we want men to buy us flowers without telling hey you wanna or I want you to buy me flowers we want men to open our door without actually saying Hey I want you to open my door so in you

Lindsay (DT63)know the the context of a of a I we want men to know we want the man to know what he did wrong or what he said to piss us off rather than just say it

Reese (DT63)is I'm willing to say it though because if I want to maintain a healthy relationship I want to oh sorry sorry I was going to give you a ding oh thank you um because if I want to maintain a

Reese (DT63)healthy relationship I want to say you know I want to present my issues that I have and what we can do to fix them because again what's the point in suffering and being upset in a relationship like why am I going to silently suffer what yeah that's why

Alexa (DT63)that's why you're toxic I think that that comes with maturity and growth but I agree with you on a baseline there's a great book I won't go into depth but um it's called that's not what I said and it talks about how women

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