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00:03:20Brian Atlasguys can't catch the full shows we have a Clips channel the link for that is in the description go subscribe without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go
00:03:31Alexa (DT63)ahead my name's Alexa I'm 27. um I'm a Noob twitch streamer and then primarily I am a manager for models and a creative director at only fans agency called chic
00:03:46Karina (DT63)that's me my name is Karina I am we have to say our age yep
00:03:55Karina (DT63)26 and I am a producer of content and I'm a writer why what was the hesitation with the age there
00:04:05Karina (DT63)um usually you don't ask a woman her age what kind of content do you do I produce skits Vlogs only fans no no only fans no only fans so normally you don't ask a woman her age what do you
00:04:18Karina (DT63)mean what do you mean what do you mean I normally I've heard that term for like old women for old women because like ages
00:04:31Alexa (DT63)like we have to say that I think judgment comes when you give a certain age like if I said I was 21 I might not get as much respect if I said I'm 32. I don't know about that one you probably I suspect you might get more respect it
00:04:43Susan (DT63)depends on it depends on the person like honestly but why does it matter there's some people that really have mommy issues so they prefer older women
00:04:53Karina (DT63)did I say that out loud yes you can say that out loud wait so you normally don't ask a woman her age yeah that's not like it's such a cliche but it's not like the first and foremost question like I get
00:05:05Karina (DT63)you asking for my like username or my at but like my age what that seems like a basic demographic question to ask somebody I guess
00:05:15Karina (DT63)my ethnicity but myself preferences too I might get I certainly might what is your ethnicity while we're at it I'm from Russia so a lot of Caucasian basis
00:05:26Karina (DT63)aren't Russians or from the caucus mountains yeah I'm from Uzbekistan too so that's another free ball but yeah okay what about you
00:05:37Susan (DT63)me oh I'm half into the mess no no no no your name age occupation into the mic please my name is Susan I am a registered nurse and I do some
00:05:49Susan (DT63)content online um I just started with a new agency I'm 21 years old no you're not
00:05:59Susan (DT63)okay Brian I'm 35. Scorpio um what else uh so you said you do content what kind of contents you do I do content I don't
00:06:11Susan (DT63)do nudity um so only you have an only fans though I do okay I do but I just sure signed with a new agency okay um siren agency and um
00:06:24Susan (DT63)hopefully I can get some more stuff going um and yeah but I have a day job too you're a nurse yeah um what like a pediatric
00:06:34Ella (DT63)NICU surgeries surgery okay what about you um I'm Ella I'm 18. I go to UCSB and I'm a biochem major okay rock and roll what about you uh my name is Reese I'm
00:06:46Reese (DT63)18 years old and I'm a Communications major at the University of California Santa Barbara
00:06:54Kayla (DT63)cool uh I'm Kayla AKA anola Blaze I am 25 and I do only fans can I have you just tilt the microphone down towards you just
00:07:05Brian Atlasthis time perfect okay you do only fans yes how long have you been doing that um nine months on
00:07:15Lindsay (DT63)it what about you hi my name is Lindsay I'm 18 years old I go to Santa Barbara City College and I'm an entrepreneurship major my name is Haley I'm 18 years old I go
00:07:26Haley (DT63)to the San Diego Miramar Community College majoring in engineering with emphasis in physics and I work for the family business
00:07:35Rico (DT63)my name is Rico I am 34 years old I am a poker player Uber driver fitness model actor comedian I just I do
00:07:47Brian Atlasit all all-around's great guy I'm all over all around great all around great guy cool cool cool all right so thank you for having me oh thank you for coming man uh so everyone's Instagrams are in the description guys show them
00:07:58Brian Atlassome love giving them a follow if uh your short girl my DMs are open okay so we're gonna go around the table once more current relationship status single friends with benefits talking stage
00:08:09Alexa (DT63)situation shift relationship are you any of these and your longest relationship go ahead um so right now kind of like talking
00:08:18Alexa (DT63)situationship uh my longest relationship was five years from 19 to 24. um and then just a little bit of situation ships after that like during
00:08:29Alexa (DT63)you know uh covet Bay and all that and you know
00:08:35Karina (DT63)um I'm in a really serious situationship right now it's been going for like two years so I'm in love but I'm also not really in a relationship until I'm married so
00:08:46Alexa (DT63)yeah wait sorry could you just repeat which one you were my relationship yeah single right yeah like situationships like talking like yeah same person just one person how
00:08:58Brian Atlaslong how long has that been going on I've known him for two years two years gotcha and you're in a two-year situation too it's more serious than hers more seriously yeah oh you guys know each
00:09:08Brian Atlasother okay got it what about you I'm single longest relationship three years three
00:09:17Brian Atlasyears have you ever been married no any kids no uh I have a dog a dog okay that's my kid that's your that's your child that's my baby that's your baby there you go
00:09:28Brian Atlasuh I'm single longest relationship is non-existent one question on that so have you ever you've never had a relationship no okay
00:09:39Brian Atlasum what is the longest period of time that you've talked to somebody I'd say honestly probably like a week one week yeah okay I'm gonna come back to the one week
00:09:50Reese (DT63)thing I'm gonna let everyone get through this really quick first though go ahead um I'm currently single but the longest relationship I've ever been in lasted a year when did that end um it was all throughout my junior year
00:10:02Brian Atlasof high school okay so those two two years ago yeah it was a while ago gotcha um besides that let's say in college any what's the longest period of time you've been seeing a guy because you said you're a freshman at UCS yeah I'm a
00:10:15Reese (DT63)freshman I was actually in a relationship uh about two months ago I was dating that guy for about six months but you know long distance is really difficult didn't work out oh it was long distance yeah we were long distance and it ended
00:10:26Reese (DT63)two months ago uh yeah January okay where was he uh back at home Bay Area Bay Area okay why did he dump you uh I actually ended things with him why is that
00:10:38Reese (DT63)um I just wasn't getting enough out of the relationship he would call me maybe once a week um like very little communication it just like you know you want more out of
00:10:50Reese (DT63)a relationship you mentioned he would call you once a week right he would call me maybe once a week and then I would be trying to call him multiple times a week and he would pick up maybe
00:11:01Reese (DT63)50 of the time okay so you were at least you were trying oh no I was absolutely putting an effort but then it got to a point where you know it's really exhausting to the one carrying the relationship on your back
00:11:12Kayla (DT63)um so yeah I got tired okay and Nola what about you um I am single I'm also a mom
00:11:23Kayla (DT63)um my longest relationship I would say I never really had a real boyfriend or real relationship but thank you Devon
00:11:33Brian Atlasjust everlasted was probably three years I think uh what about the relationship with the the father of your son or is it sorry
00:11:44Kayla (DT63)it's a girl or your kid um do you know who the father is yes I know who the father is but I wouldn't consider
00:11:54Kayla (DT63)consider because I just think I was like really brainwashed and I got into it for wrong reasons and it just sled
00:12:03Brian Atlaswere you in a cult no brainwashed like a sex cult no not just like my pimp he was your pimp yeah yeah uh
00:12:14Brian Atlasyour pimp huh you're pimp I've heard it right yes oh good times pivot ain't easy Pimpin Ain't Easy Okay so
00:12:24Brian Atlasyou then you previously did proper sex work then prostitution correct okay um how long were you doing that for I started doing that probably 18. 18 years old okay
00:12:39Brian Atlasum and are you still doing sex that kind of sex work look just a little closer to Mike very very seldom very seldom okay but occasionally
00:12:51Brian Atlasoccasionally and then you're also you said you do only fans to correct did you do traditional corn um I have I don't do that not anymore but you do have only fans correct okay so you're single and you said you've
00:13:04Brian Atlasnever really been in a relationship no okay I've wanted to what what is the longest period of time that you've seen a guy
00:13:14Kayla (DT63)well I suppose you're pimp right but correct yeah I mean I was I was really in love with somebody which is who took my virginity I was in love with him since like
00:13:24Kayla (DT63)I'm gonna say like eight to probably 18. and yeah just never seriously wait you said wait 18 you said
00:13:36Kayla (DT63)eight to eighteen like I was in love with somebody like I pursued him that long eight eight eight years old how old was he sheesh how old was he um three years older than me three years older oh okay yeah nothing crazy yeah as
00:13:50Brian Atlaslong as it wasn't like a grooming experience or anything like that yeah oh you're good okay cool um welcome to soft white underbelly I'm your host what's his name mark or some have you been on have you been on soft
00:14:03Brian Atlaswhite underbelly no no this is my first podcast really yes you should uh you should go on soft white I want to go on on a lot of podcasts yeah yeah okay well because he
00:14:15Brian Atlasbrings on a lot of people with interesting paths pasts so I'll try to get you connected with him if that's something that might interest you um what about you currently single and I've never been in
00:14:27Brian Atlasa committed relationship never been what a situationship is there a guy you're talking to right now uh no one seriously have you since you've been on the show before have there been any
00:14:38Lindsay (DT63)suitors who have dm'd you many very nice really yeah I got a very like overwhelmingly nice and they were trouble just hitting on me really okay
00:14:50Lindsay (DT63)that's good to hear a couple mean ones though there were a handful I guess they're like like unfounded it was kind of random unfounded good word so how many suitors dm'd you
00:15:04Brian Atlas100 off that one show yeah and you sugar daddy offers nope no sugar daddy offers oh okay Good Times um so
00:15:15Lindsay (DT63)nobody really you're talking to though I have a friend who's connected me with a friends that she knows that she kind of wants to set me up with but okay it's
00:15:27Brian Atlaslong distance and I'm not interested in starting something sure distance and yeah okay and uh has have any of the guys who DM you have they offered to fly you out to like Miami or LA or any [ __ ] like
00:15:40Lindsay (DT63)that well fly to LA but have you had the offers well Miami or in Vegas how about that I had one one guy told me to come to uh Toronto and then another guy told me to
00:15:53Haley (DT63)come to Nashville but they didn't offer to buy my ticket okay got it what about you buy longer sleep I'm in a relationship right now it's my only boyfriend I've ever had we've been dating for four years
00:16:10Rico (DT63)so I lost my opportunity at 13. and I've pretty much had a girlfriend ever since then not one girlfriend multiple girlfriends I've always had a girlfriend I've never not had a girlfriend
00:16:21Rico (DT63)so 13. yeah that's right that's great I had a growth spurt uh from eighth grade to ninth grade how tall are you by the way six four six four six four you're a Chad oh yeah you're a child yeah I I give
00:16:35Rico (DT63)that uh I get that a lot um but um yeah man Life's good uh in the dating World um but I know I mean no it still sucks it still sucks uh women are awful
00:16:47Brian Atlassometimes most of the time most of the time but I love them so whatever okay um so are you currently in a relationship always you how many girls are you seeing right
00:17:05Rico (DT63)like two like two and a half two and a half so yeah two and a half so one is oral what are like one is like she hasn't she hasn't been uh what's the word like uh she's promoting she hasn't
00:17:18Rico (DT63)been promoted not promoted yeah she hasn't been promoted she hasn't been promoted to like you know official girlfriend she's not under my protection if you will she's she's not she's
00:17:30Rico (DT63)auditioning yeah yeah she's still no yes she's still on probation she's still on probation she's a probation probation probation period how long how long is
00:17:38Rico (DT63)the probationary period uh oh that's tough I would say probation last I don't know man I run a tight ship you got to get you got like
00:17:51Rico (DT63)you got like three four months to like not [ __ ] up and then it's and then it's over have so have you always uh
00:18:02Rico (DT63)dated multiple women or would you say you've had periods of monogamy or well I'll try I tried it when I was like 21 but I was like man this is I almost said
00:18:12Rico (DT63)the r word this is ridiculous like it's just no look I got all this testosterone like why would I do like no guy anywhere Works 40 50 60 hours a week to be like
00:18:25Rico (DT63)oh I just wanna just wanna smash one girl forever like I want her to come tell me to take out the trash like no it's stupid so I'm not doing that no you're supposed to do that by yourself what take out the trash I
00:18:38Karina (DT63)shouldn't ask you to take out the trash she should do it right no no men should do it had an X in my someone tell me so you would be on probation you're on probation check out the trash I used to take out
00:18:49Karina (DT63)the trash and my ex told me that whenever he had somebody do that like a woman do that he didn't love her anymore he like told me that and well that guy was weird you're dating a weirdo
00:18:59Susan (DT63)this is why I'm single I can't I I'm mean to guys unfortunate you're mean to guys sometimes it depends on my mood well explain that what how are you mean to men well the thing the thing you know I mean I'm not in my 20
00:19:19Susan (DT63)and then you know it's like I was dating in Los Angeles so I've seen a good amount of different species okay of species species I think that's
00:19:30Susan (DT63)illegal so you think that might be illegal no I mean I'm just not I don't mean like hey F off or anything like that it's just I don't have lizards
00:19:40Brian Atlaspatience oh I don't have patience you gotta speak into the mic patience thank you for dropping your octaves a few things okay um so you don't have patience for men I don't have
00:19:59Rico (DT63)so I I have a theory that women that have never played organized Sports either gaming we'll say band
00:20:10Rico (DT63)uh their dad wasn't in their life oh sorry actually um that they make horrible girlfriends that weren't in organized Sports yeah they have to be an organized for us if their dad wasn't around maybe banned
00:20:22Lindsay (DT63)like a like a discipline of some sort what is I'm just interested to know what's the connection between having a dad and organized Sports um no it's because of uh because of being a
00:20:34Rico (DT63)relationship you have to have patience and discipline so if your dad wasn't around to discipline you that's that if you've never been in organized sports or a team like okay yeah you don't have patience are you
00:20:46Alexa (DT63)saying that moms can our worst disciplinarians than dads like is that your yes you think so I know so but women are the people that are like actually rearing the children and have
00:20:57Alexa (DT63)the majority of the time I do think dads play a very important role but I don't think that's just disciplinarians true but they do more than that dads are also supposed to show their daughters how they're supposed to be loved and treated
00:21:09Alexa (DT63)and to like set their boundaries and all that kind of stuff as well so I do agree with you that like a strong both paternal and maternal figure are important in self-development but as far
00:21:20Alexa (DT63)as like moms not being capable my mom whooped my ass so we're like that never spanked me ever I was like baby girl so I didn't say they weren't capable you said they're worse at it but it's like
00:21:32Alexa (DT63)my dad literally like would never ever spank me and my mom and I'm thankful for her why do you equate discipline to like violence and spankings it's not necessarily violence we could go into
00:21:44Alexa (DT63)the whole like um the whole debate of whether it's like okay to like spank your kids and whatnot but that's kind of a whole different time but discipline is just rules yeah but obviously I'm using like spanking as
00:21:55Karina (DT63)a representation for discipline not necessarily saying that's only the way to discipline your children I also think boys are more likely to be coddled by their moms and like our mothers like will discipline us harder than they
00:22:07Alexa (DT63)would their sons which is why it's also important for a man to or a male to have like a father in his life but overall I agree with you but I get the connection with team sports being like a team
00:22:18Alexa (DT63)player but I guess my question is if you are asking these things of your women that are on probation what do you provide to them in return as part of being you know captain of the team if
00:22:30Rico (DT63)you're being the leader what do I provide yeah um he's a 6'4 child I mean looks fade people get hunches in their back black
00:22:39Rico (DT63)don't crack right oh right it does not correct um no crack zero crack what they get they get to be with me I mean you get protection what do you
00:22:50Rico (DT63)offer um safety for one uh I think that is one thing that is very uh under undervalued in uh relationships is the safety you get you essentially have a
00:23:03Kayla (DT63)bodyguard when you go out into the world I mean you don't sorry no no I don't completely agree with that because like well it depends on who you date yeah it depends on the person like it's not every guy who's gonna protect you that
00:23:14Kayla (DT63)you're gonna be with and then you shouldn't be with that man right you can't protect you yeah yeah and also though before you move we move on to the subject um my dad passed away when I was 11 and
00:23:25Brian AtlasI've never participated in any school sports or anything like that no I he he didn't say that there was a correlation between having a father and participation in school sports he said you you were just listening he's
00:23:38Brian Atlaslistening things but I'm saying like I don't meet both of those criteria oh I see I see what you're saying um let me just uh do a couple things here uh guys just just since we shifted it I just
00:23:49Brian Atlaswant to do a reminder on the super chats and donations we've boosted the read trigger to a hundred so Reed answered the trigger 200 TTS is now set to 200. I
00:24:01Brian Atlasjust want a smooth show uh last show is just a bit overwhelming with all the soup chats so I might lower it again but just as you guys are kind of coming into the stream I just want to let you guys know so I just want to also but with
00:24:13Brian Atlasthat I will be able to get to the read ones faster so Davon Jackson thank you for the 100 man appreciate it uh stop being an [ __ ] and answer the questions asked to you you're not cool or clever or fighting for women's rights
00:24:23Brian Atlasyou're just being a [ __ ] that's directed too to me um who it's directed to I don't even know
00:24:33Karina (DT63)I don't know I think it's related to the age thing probably you know wait wait oh me yeah yeah I don't fight for women's rights I only fight for women's wrongs that's all what are what are
00:24:47Karina (DT63)women's wrongs of anything wrong fight for quality I believe that it was so much better in the 70s when men went to war and when women just like
00:25:00Karina (DT63)sat in the house and got poems sent to them I'm not sure if you're being facetious or I am a little bit a little bit facetious okay A little satirical but
00:25:11Brian Atlasall right that's wonderful all right Davon Jackson thank for the 100 soup chat uh stop staring at the chat you look ridiculous pay attention to the conversation yo Devon thank you so much for the support man
00:25:23Brian Atlasum I I want to give a big shout out and a heartfelt thank you to Devon who's been one of our long-term supporters for months now before we even really started picking up steam so Devon thank you for
00:25:34Brian Atlasyour continued support week after week month after month I really appreciate you constantly supporting and being a patron of the show thank you man uh okay and uh
00:25:47Brian Atlaswe can oh yeah pull that one up while we have it yo Scott Aragon thank you for the 100 man 85 of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes fathers keep their sons out of prisons
00:25:57Alexa (DT63)and daughters off the stripper pole Scott that is profound and true correlation correlation does not imply causation so first of all show me
00:26:10Brian Atlasthe studies and then show me how they gather them I mean it's the majority of men in prisons were raised in single mother households that's negating all the other environmental factors sure there's other there's there's other
00:26:23Alexa (DT63)factors it's not it's not a guarantee if you're raised by a single mother that you're going to become a criminal but I see that it's more likely if you use that statistic to kind of boost your argument but that statistic in and of itself
00:26:35Alexa (DT63)isn't a good argument it's not a strong argument it's one facet to a very complicated like social well actually one of the most the the
00:26:45Brian Atlasstrongest predictors of uh criminality aside aside from socioeconomics is growing up in a one parent or it's not even necessarily one parent household it's growing up without
00:26:58Alexa (DT63)a father it's a major predictor it can like there are indicators and you can pull out these like data points of course like
00:27:07Alexa (DT63)you can say like you know if you wear a bra to bed if 51 of women that um wear bra to bed get breast cancer you can say wearing a broader bed causes breast cancer but you're not like looking at okay what's the air quality like in that
00:27:20Alexa (DT63)area why were those people placed in that area what kind of like policing is around that area that causes them to stay in that area more like as it's breast cancer though I think that there that's that's not what I'm saying
00:27:40Alexa (DT63)regardless of the example my point is that one data point even if you can pull out data points and say hey this is like more likely in this scenario true but that doesn't cause it or correlation
00:27:53Brian Atlasdoes not imply causation there's a ton of other factors but you can okay removing all the stats and they have done studies on this and you know they they take quite a bit of biographical information from you know prisoners upon
00:28:05Brian Atlasintake and you know they've done studies on this um removing all that though I think it's just almost common knowledge that it's better to grow up with two parents
00:28:15Alexa (DT63)versus one I actually agree with you guys and just because I might have a Counterpoint and maybe a little Devil's Advocate doesn't mean I agree with the overall point that a two-parent
00:28:25Alexa (DT63)household is better and creates more well-rounded people however like it's just not a good it's not a strong argument and like it's an incorrect use of data but it's a it's a fact
00:28:38Alexa (DT63)agree with the facts it's not a fact it's just a data point it's a fact the data point in it of itself is a fact but the conclusion that you're drawing from the data point isn't a fact that's in a sense that's like saying all the people
00:28:50Rico (DT63)when they all the NBA play like the percentage of NBA players that are black are 75 that's a fact you can't it doesn't matter so like it's more you're but being black isn't the overall factor of why they're
00:29:03Alexa (DT63)in the NBA though you see what I mean like their height their talent their athletic ability like why is it so I'm not saying it's irrelevant I'm just saying I agree with the overall point I'm just saying it's a poor argument to
00:29:14Brian Atlasmake to spend a hundred dollars to put on the show I have no idea what you're talking about so do you think do you think the following statement is wrong that I mean I think the statement is
00:29:26Brian Atlasessentially I mean do you disagree that the majority of people who are on prisons grew up without fathers do you disagree with that if that's what the actual if you took a
00:29:38Alexa (DT63)poll and that's what the numbers came up to then I don't disagree with that I would disagree with the statement that's saying they're in prison because they don't have fathers that's my point I don't know that's not the argument
00:29:50Alexa (DT63)that's not what we're saying that's what he said on there he said he said he was using he was using that information as a as a like to strengthen the argument that he was trying to make where he's
00:30:02Alexa (DT63)trying to say that oh if you're not on his team sport and if you don't have a dad you're a bad girlfriend that's literally what he said so okay he's this is a double-parent household makes it less
00:30:13Karina (DT63)likely for them to go to prison I've met people who went to prison and whose fathers went to prison whose fathers fathers went to prison and they're like passing down a legacy torch of like going to prison so I don't know like
00:30:23Karina (DT63)it's a generalization the exception does not make the rule like that's cool Revelation does not imply causes but we live in a world of generalization a great statistics class but I think ultimately
00:30:35Karina (DT63)can you cut out the sarcasm we don't need the attitude okay this is literally my personality like I promise you if you think this is mean or rude I'm not going to sugarcoat myself
00:30:46Brian Atlasjust like but okay we're if we're talking about something we don't need the extra okay okay so can you pull that back up Eric so
00:30:58Brian Atlasfathers keep their sons out of prison and their daughters off the pole now if if you grow up without the father it's not it's not like your future is written in like
00:31:10Brian Atlasyou can still become a functioning member of society absolutely it's not a guarantee that if you don't have a father your life's gonna be terrible and you can be a wonderful person however it
00:31:22Alexa (DT63)helps to have a father I agree with that statement my whole point and we can get back to the dating show after this my whole point is that is a poor example or
00:31:32Alexa (DT63)a poor argument to say that like it's just picking one data point rather than like a whole inclusive like scope of what's actually going on that put
00:31:43Alexa (DT63)people in prison and put girls on the pole so it's like you're you're drawing a straight line when it's really a zigzag is all I'm saying like and it's just like kind of I don't want to say an ignorant statement but it's just like a
00:31:55Susan (DT63)obtuse statement because on the poll for exercise like I do pull
00:32:04Susan (DT63)Fitness and those classes are so expensive so I give strippers so much credit because they are athletes I'm sorry if you've never climbed up on a
00:32:15Susan (DT63)pole pulled yourself upside down you don't know what working out is because that is true crazy like so like women am I in a parallel universe no we're
00:32:25Susan (DT63)talking about oh women are putting themselves on a poll well there are women that purposely want to go on the
00:32:34Susan (DT63)poll the poll is funny just F you know for whatever however you want to do it it's like
00:32:43Susan (DT63)you know and my thought on not having a father it's based on choices okay for the individual in
00:32:52Susan (DT63)education honestly because you know I've I've met people that did not have a good background however they made the choice to go a different route than the
00:33:05Susan (DT63)you know the spiral right it's it's based on education and it's not just like books
00:33:15Susan (DT63)it's like getting the right information because you could get information from a friend like a real friend would tell you what's up uh like a bad friend would be
00:33:26Susan (DT63)like yeah go for it when it like don't [ __ ] like you know not really there looking out for you so you know and that's that's just you're saying a lot of words
00:33:39Rico (DT63)it's a lot of words Alice so you're just basically but I guess I think what you're saying smacking the ones you're saying the why the why is irrelevant what do you mean like you say you're talking about why these people are where they are I think we're just saying this
00:33:52Susan (DT63)is where they are this is the numbers and this is I think it's the reality of the world it's choices it's the individual's choice and also um there are people
00:34:04Susan (DT63)two days a week two days a week I I believe it's choices it's not because they have a father and a mother because sometimes kids are screwed up with both parents I'm sorry okay we're
00:34:16Alexa (DT63)gonna last thing and then yeah last thing I think what she's just trying to say is that regardless of your environmental factors no matter how much they may weigh on you you still have individual agency and choices but she's saying she just said it with a bunch of
00:34:28Susan (DT63)different examples so I hear you right yeah I could come up with a bunch of different things and I'm not just smacking my gums okay back to the dating show back to the dating show uh totally a virgin explain that shirt
00:34:43Karina (DT63)um I liked it so I bought it so but you're totally a virgin totally are you not a virgin um it's like the same concept of me
00:34:55Brian Atlassaying I've never been in a relationship before that's I'm totally a virgin who's in a situationship Okay so
00:35:07Ella (DT63)coming back to you you said that you've had your longest anything was one week I mean I think it depends on like what your definition you said talking to someone like we are fresh out of high
00:35:18Ella (DT63)school so we have a very different like relationship to the you know how closer to how relationships work with people um I never dated anybody in high school and I never really spent like a considerable amount of time talking to
00:35:30Brian Atlassomeone in like a dating kind of way well you were you were you go to UCSB correct yeah so you were here for the fall yeah semester is a quarter semester okay quarter so that starts in like
00:35:41Brian AtlasSeptember yeah okay we're now in March that's what eight seven wait six seven months so I mean in that period of time um
00:35:53Brian Atlasyou know UCSB is the number one party school in the U.S there's parties every single weekend just you two actually um how frequently do you guys party Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday uh
00:36:05Ella (DT63)usually Friday Saturday Friday Saturday but I mean it varies some weekends we don't go out at all other weekends you know three days in a row different definitions of I guess because like sometimes we'll go to parties sometimes we're just hanging out with smaller
00:36:17Ella (DT63)groups of people but again I don't think it's necessarily like just going out to parties as a purpose of like finding a relationship or whatever like we met a lot of cool people doing no I'm not I'm not saying that you you need to go to these environments to necessarily find a
00:36:29Ella (DT63)relationship but the longest period of time you've ever talked to a guy whether that's in college or prior was one week correct I mean that was a generalization if I really think about it I might have had someone who I was kind of interested in that I talked to for a little bit
00:36:41Ella (DT63)longer than that but nothing to the point I was like I'm texting this person constantly I think that we're going to be in a relationship and so kind of like do you have a sense of what you're looking for um as of right now I don't I think still
00:36:53Ella (DT63)I'm just a very busy person um and so just not right now no Okay so when were are you currently seeing someone right
00:37:04Brian Atlasnow no are you currently hooking up with someone right now no when's the last time you hooked up someone um I think the last time I kissed someone was a couple of weeks ago that's not really what I mean by hook up but
00:37:16Brian Atlashook up I don't know probably a while ago it's been a minute it's been a minute yeah okay busy with school you know busy with school and uh what about you are you talking to somebody right now no oh no
00:37:28Brian Atlasbut but you party every weekend right yeah I party every weekend but that doesn't mean I'm getting with guys every weekend no of course not but I mean there's certainly you know like I said U.S UCSB number one party school it's definitely quite a bit of a hookup culture I'm sure you guys would agree
00:37:40Brian Atlasthere's oh yeah there's a crazy hookup culture here and it does see I've heard from both men and women that it seems to be at least for people that live in this area it's hard for people to find relationships because everyone just wants to hook up right absolutely I mean
00:37:53Reese (DT63)you brought up the fact that we've been here for you know six seven months what not um but within that that time frame I have met a very small handful of a handful of people who have expressed
00:38:05Reese (DT63)wanting a relationship in any kind the hookup which is very prevalent here people don't want relationships they don't want relationships do you want a relationship no I mean I just got out of one right two months ago you said yeah
00:38:16Brian Atlasum so jumping into something serious right now is just not really sure desirable for me okay got it so uh do you would you say you're kind of just
00:38:27Reese (DT63)doing your own thing you occasionally will do hookups or I mean yeah I have here and there but again not really it's getting over a recent breakup and stuff like I haven't really been putting myself out there has there been a
00:38:39Reese (DT63)rebound um there was like one person I was seeing for like a very short period of time but sure I don't really talk to them anymore and what about you any hookups here and there a couple yeah
00:38:51Rico (DT63)nothing super serious but I have a question I'm I'm very curious how do guys like you're around your eight how do they talk to you guys because
00:39:03Reese (DT63)that's the funny thing is that they don't I have gotten approached at a party maybe twice wow here
00:39:14Reese (DT63)um which you know it's I find funny because I've there's so many beautiful women here in Isla Vista um honestly think that might be the problem yeah there's so many of us here but um no I've me and my friends like we never
00:39:27Reese (DT63)really get approached at parties so even the men who do come up and talk to us they're um you've been approached only twice I I mean that I can I mean you can have conversations with people but just like a guy coming up being like hey can I get your name I didn't mean to
00:39:38Reese (DT63)interrupt you there you said but the men who do approach us you were about to say um I mean it's again very rare but the ones who have approached me were like very very incoherent and very very drunk
00:39:49Reese (DT63)I couldn't really hold um like a clear conversation with them so it's kind of iffy it fit even like counts I think the biggest difference
00:39:59Rico (DT63)from when I was growing up to the generation now is I remember being in uh eighth grade they we used to have uh used to go home from school they used to have chat rooms that you could call and
00:40:11Rico (DT63)you would call the chat room you would enter the room and you would just talk to people you don't know where the you don't know where they are and whether you would just no no this is like an actual message no no no like
00:40:23Rico (DT63)um I'm from Memphis and we yeah there was like uh yeah there was a number you would call I've heard and then you would just enter the chat and then you would just talk you might be just talking [ __ ] the whole time but you might might meet a girl you just talk to a girl and
00:40:36Rico (DT63)that's that's all you did was talk was it randomized like yeah it's random you don't know yeah you don't know who you're talking no you can't see it this was oh it was just yeah this one this
00:40:45Rico (DT63)was free this was pretty smartphones they could have catfished like yeah yeah but yeah you'd be like oh what school do you go to so like I think that's why like a lot of waiting that's the reason yeah that's why that's why I've never
00:40:58Brian Atlasheard of that thing well yeah but yeah that's I feel like that's why well it's one of the reasons why I like you think we have well I think the big reason is dating apps and social media true that's
00:41:09Brian Atlaswhy like in the past if a guy wanted to get a girl he couldn't just get on a nap and swipe and hope like something yeah like now a lot of guys have access to the dating apps and whereas before if
00:41:21Brian Atlasyou didn't approach a girl that you had nothing yeah even even if like these guys aren't successful on the dating apps they still like they they're at least maybe getting some conversation
00:41:31Brian Atlasright whereas at least attempting to get an option whereas back then you had to approach a girl yeah so I think not only are there more options which I think you
00:41:41Karina (DT63)rushed on um but you also get more of a chance to decide what you're going to respond with or how you're going to talk like voice to text or something like um video to video or a guy approaching you
00:41:52Karina (DT63)at a party he has to actually think about how his like how his Swagger is how he's yeah absolutely how his movements are everything but now it's just like if you're like spitting game like text to text like you could think
00:42:04Karina (DT63)about a response in two hours true right yeah which I love and I hate for myself too because I can think of something witty to say like an hour later but I was like if I was like this in person is this really me or is this just like
00:42:16Brian Atlasabsolutely me an hour later women don't really need game though no no but I don't need games it's important
00:42:25Karina (DT63)like uh respectfully most men will just like sleep with like anything or anyone um if given the opportunity uh what men will like [ __ ] a apple pie like
00:42:37Brian Atlas[Laughter] American Pie
00:42:44Alexa (DT63)wait you think about it in order to you think American Pie is a great film did what it did at the time period it was portrayed
00:42:56Brian Atlashonestly I'm not gonna lie that's like one of my guilty pleasure favorite films okay so it's good um go ahead someone was oh yeah American Pie America
00:43:07Karina (DT63)was that where this one time from band camp I used to so I was in the marching band in high school and we used to always say that that was my favorite thing I'm not gonna lie I did um I did
00:43:18Rico (DT63)have sex with my couch at uh what point uh no prob I'd probably say like fourth like fourth grade like the there's like crevices in the
00:43:29Rico (DT63)[ __ ] in the oh that's so big mouth where he like literally [ __ ] the pillow and like the couch no there's some guys watching y'all have all done some weird
00:43:42Rico (DT63)stuff don't don't act like girls too yeah y'all hump the edges of like counters and stuff like that's yeah everyone's that's true actually everyone's done some weird stuff don't act like I'm for sure no you're not
00:43:54Alexa (DT63)alone watch the TV show they literally wrote it into their big mouth playing oh yeah so you're in a situationship correct yeah how long how long has that
00:44:07Alexa (DT63)um it's just been on and off and it's it's kind of like um I don't know I'm just like really good friends with him and it's not necessarily like any expectation for how long um I've known him for two years
00:44:19Alexa (DT63)yeah so you've been in the two-year situationship yeah but I'm just the type it's not even like oh I'm trying to get wifed or anything like that it's just I'm the type that I am a relationship
00:44:30Alexa (DT63)person so if I'm not in a committed relationship then I typically just like date around and then if I connect with somebody I stay with that one person and
00:44:40Alexa (DT63)it can be casual it can be open like I'm open-minded so it's like I don't mind if like he's as long as there's clear communication I don't mind if he's like sleeping around or anything like that as
00:44:52Alexa (DT63)long as he's honest with me he's safe I'm safe all that kind of stuff if I'm not now if my like wants shift to where I want to be in a committed relationship I'd no longer be in that situation so
00:45:04Alexa (DT63)you said you're are you seeing other guys right now no like I like I must like relationship person so it's hard yeah but it's like I like to just pick one person and kind of stick with that
00:45:16Alexa (DT63)person because I don't like catch feelings that often so I don't feel the need or Draw to like go elsewhere as long as like it's a respectful relationship and yeah like is he
00:45:27Alexa (DT63)sleeping with other girls I'm sure like I'm sure he is you don't mind um not really no but you're you're exclusive to him yes like but not that I'm not like hey
00:45:40Alexa (DT63)this like I'm only for you I'm basically your girlfriend without the title it's more just like we have a mutual respect and I have all the freedom in the world to go
00:45:51Brian Atlaselsewhere I just don't want to personally okay so I don't like to sleep around sure personally okay so you could so you can if another guy were to come
00:46:02Brian Atlasinto the picture that you decided this guy this new guy is better than this situationship then obviously trade up or whatever I mean I don't know if it's trading up because
00:46:13Rico (DT63)like like I said I see a chad what is that what does that mean exhibit exhibit a Chad tall uh yeah Chad
00:46:22Rico (DT63)tall good looking but yeah you know tall masculine masculine I'll say he's a Chad yeah how tall is he he's six eight
00:46:41Alexa (DT63)um he doesn't play new sports right now but I'm he's an athlete and like what kind of athlete um I think basketball football two-year situationship do you think I mean like he's older so he
00:46:53Alexa (DT63)doesn't do those things anymore I think he's 32. oh okay yeah so he you so he's he's just he's retired like he'll play pickup and he'll go to
00:47:04Brian Atlasthe gym okay but he's an athlete okay he's fit he's six eight okay um was he a pro former professional athlete or no
00:47:15Brian Atlasum like overseas yeah basketball oh basketball yeah but he's American citizen yes okay so two years in a situationship do you want to get
00:47:28Alexa (DT63)married and have kids at some point um I don't know about kids per se okay but um like yeah marriage eventually yeah I think I just need to be ready as my own
00:47:38Alexa (DT63)individual person and grow myself and focus on like career and stability and mental health and just be the best version of myself as cliche as it sounds
00:47:49Alexa (DT63)and then be in a space to be a good partner so it's yeah it's not like I'm pining okay so you you said you've been seeing it's on on again off again for two years yeah but like the Friendship has been consistent how long have you
00:48:03Alexa (DT63)seen um how often do you see him um probably like we talk every day or see each other every day for the most really yeah you don't live together though no we live really near each other
00:48:13Alexa (DT63)though but we like neighbors basically we like our friendship like is um I don't know you want to have somebody like-minded as you so it's like if I'm working on my life and he's working on his and I can do something to
00:48:25Alexa (DT63)help him I'm gonna help him you guys you can do something to help me he's gonna help me like it's still a relationship or friendship you guys see each other every day uh at least briefly like
00:48:35Alexa (DT63)briefly yeah like not like some crazy hangout it could just be like hey I'm picking up this at your house or like you know we kind of like have things intertwined a bit but just as a
00:48:46Brian Atlasfriendship kind of like you know I mean you you say this is a situationship but I mean this sounds like a relationship to me but I mean not not not in title
00:48:56Brian Atlasbut obviously like we and you guys see each other almost every day that's I I that seems to be out of the realm of situationship but um so okay so that's my version of a situation throughout the entire course
00:49:09Brian Atlasof the situationship was there any point I know you said not now you're not dating and seeing other guys has there ever been a point where you're uh you've hooked up with another guy while you were maybe earlier on in the
00:49:22Alexa (DT63)situationship um like really early on I was definitely like talking to other people and I break up so I was like more trying to distract myself rather than like
00:49:33Alexa (DT63)actually searching for somebody or whatever there was one person I like talked to and maybe like hung out with but I didn't like really there's not like a lot of overlap if any okay so but
00:49:46Alexa (DT63)you're not like you won't even go on a date with another guy correct if I was feeling them but I to be honest I just one it takes a lot of energy to like go
00:49:56Alexa (DT63)through the dating apps and all that kind of stuff and I don't necessarily I'm a homebody for the most part so I don't really have a lot of energy for that and what I don't know
00:50:07Alexa (DT63)it's a good thing don't we okay so so but yeah like um so I don't have like the energy for that and I honestly I've not dated that many people because I don't feel as much as I can mentally connect on a friendship level I don't
00:50:19Alexa (DT63)feel sexual attraction to a lot of people because I'm like uh demisexual okay so but a what a what it doesn't matter it's demisexual okay so you said that he's seeing other girls
00:50:33Alexa (DT63)correct um yes I we haven't like the respect for each other that if I asked him a direct question he would tell me but if I don't ask he doesn't need to tell me and I don't necessarily always like need to be
00:50:46Alexa (DT63)up in his business do you want a relationship with him I would definitely be open to then like want more but it's all about timing have you broached
00:50:58Alexa (DT63)we've talked about it here and there but what does he say um like it again it's a timing thing he doesn't like reject the idea at all it's more of
00:51:09Alexa (DT63)just being on the same page about certain issues and then like you know men they tie their emotional and mental health a lot to their monetary status so you know with covet and everything a lot
00:51:21Alexa (DT63)of people had setbacks and Men often like to do like go it alone and like pull themselves up by their bootstraps and everything a good woman in my opinion could obviously help the situation but men that takes such a toll
00:51:33Alexa (DT63)on their mental that they need to be in a good like space in all parts of their life to then focus in on a relationship um but it's not something that I've like pressed for and it's not something he's pressed for we're just kind of on the
00:51:45Brian Atlassame page and we are in like a lot of communication about that could this guy be your life partner I could see him being my life partner for sure and moving forward would you continually be
00:51:57Alexa (DT63)okay with him stepping out on you like with other women I think we like you're the main chick but he's got you know no
00:52:04Alexa (DT63)but I wouldn't be mad at us mutually agreeing to certain things right
00:52:14Rico (DT63)I was like Alpha Widow okay um so I have I have a question so why do like most women get cheated on have all y'all been cheated on him
00:52:25Haley (DT63)before yeah or those with you've never been cheated on I have not I have only had one boyfriend who I'm currently dating
00:52:35Haley (DT63)and you think he doesn't want any other absolutely not whether he's a human being biologically monogamous yeah you said
00:52:45Rico (DT63)what humans are biologically monogamous um no they're not yes they are no no they're not what you are you you want one guy
00:52:56TTS Readerno they're not we're not yeah it can take a simple Google's super chatted 199. yeah thanks Aaron appreciate it
00:53:09TTS Readerhey Brian it's the Aaron slash Jessica attack again from Sunday asika would you consider bringing on Vin stand or Gavin McGinnis on show it would be a podcast
00:53:19Brian Atlasto remember uh I'm not sure who Vince Dow is but I know isn't Gavin McGuinness the uh uh proud boys founder um that might
00:53:30Brian Atlasbe uh is that TOS I think he's banned on Twitch so that might be TOS for us um yeah I honestly I don't really know enough about about them but uh
00:53:42Rico (DT63)yeah Never Say Never okay sorry go ahead continue with your oh no you said you said Homo sapiens are there's only like there's only like 11 mammals that are
00:53:52Rico (DT63)monogamous that is correct and humans aren't one of them they are
00:54:02Lindsay (DT63)it's right scientific research I think that women are definitely long-term mating Partners yes women are women are but men are we complete in other utterly opposites there has been a
00:54:13Haley (DT63)cultural uh I think where it differs biologically and culturally it's been more culturally accepted but biologically lifelong meeting Partners is it on no culture culturally it's it's a
00:54:25Karina (DT63)scientific book that's what it because it's what that's what's good for society aren't Penguins yeah Etc Berry
00:54:35Haley (DT63)swans swans lobsters about a quarter of all primates about a quarter of all primates
00:54:44Lindsay (DT63)lobsters are believable for Crustacean I was going to say the Seas cockroaches I think monogamous marriage is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself absolutely find happiness and
00:54:56Lindsay (DT63)for a culture that's extremely well you don't find it I thought we already agreed that you should actually already is beneficial I think if I were gonna have a two-parent household if we don't
00:55:07Lindsay (DT63)you know endorse and promote marriage that's true you just said all this bad stuff about uh single-family households yeah but then you don't think you don't condone you should commitment
00:55:18Alexa (DT63)Cannon come on like he can do it if he can do it I never said I never said marriage is bad yeah if he's a multi-millionaire so marriage with multiple women is yeah cool yeah
00:55:29Kayla (DT63)absolutely there's cultures that are Islam you can have this if you can take care of as many wives as you can that you can do I can enter take advantage of that though I agree I know it's a lot of I know a lot of Arab men who take
00:55:41Rico (DT63)advantage of that oh of like well there's good men and Batman everywhere there's always going to be somebody taking advantage of somebody yeah that's fine you wanted to come in go ahead oh I was gonna say there was a
00:55:54Karina (DT63)quote somewhere that said that Nick Cannon regrets regrets having so many children with so many different women because he can't be in all of their lives like often enough like how many birthdays does he have a year he has like
00:56:05Karina (DT63)16 and like well including his wives or whatever girlfriends whatever whatever like at least 20 to celebrate or to remember yeah and I can barely remember
00:56:16Alexa (DT63)like five yeah and he has the financial resources like more financial resources than like 99 of men so yeah Nick Cannon's children will be fine can you can you name someone who doesn't
00:56:28Lindsay (DT63)have an incredible amount of money that is in a productive uh fulfilling polyamorous relationship where their family and wives yes I know I know quite a few people enjoy it yes I know quite a
00:56:40Lindsay (DT63)few people that's a there's a whole Community Mormons no Pollyanna of people that are poly and happy and whatever I I just I think that that is the like a small sliver of people I
00:56:52Lindsay (DT63)think it's a very small sliver of people and if women take up just a little more than half the population and most women are not down for that then how's our we endorsing relationships where men get multiple women at once because the me
00:57:05Rico (DT63)because the men that can have girlfriends are gonna have women you see what I'm saying like like the men that can get girls they're going to get girls and the the