Candace Owens DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! | Dating Talk #98

Date: 2023-09-08

Duration: 4h 21m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

PPixie (DT130)>

OOlivia Bentley >

CCandace Owens >

MMadison (DT115)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Lexi(guest)

SPEAKER_04Tara(guest)

SPEAKER_05Pixie(guest)

SPEAKER_06Candace Owens(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_08Olivia Bentley(guest)

SPEAKER_09Essie(guest)

SPEAKER_10Aelia(guest)

SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_12Lily(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteCandace Owens introduction and documentary pitch

“Candace introduces herself as 'a wife, a mother first' and political commentator. Discusses 'Convicting a Murderer' 10-part Daily Wire documentary releasing next day on X.”

ControversyCandace calls Shakshuka TikTok woman a 'selfish bitch'

“After panel reacts to viral childless-Saturday TikTok, Candace says the woman is 'a selfish bitch and men should not marry her' — the panel pushes back.”

QuoteOlivia Bentley: working body count in thousands

“Olivia: 'I'm thinking it's probably in the thousands at this point.' Did 10 clients/day at peak at Bunny Ranch; called herself 'the Energizer Bunny.'”

QuoteCandace introduces 'hoflation' concept

“Candace credits Paul Joseph Watson's 'hoflation' concept: men now work harder to obtain lower-value women, compared to grandparents' era.”

QuoteCandace's final remarks on trans identity

“Candace: 'If you are a man and having sex with a man, irrespective of how you feel or whether you've mutilated your body... two men coming together to have sex with their appendices intact is homosexual sex.'”

ControversyLexi rejects Candace's prayer offer

“Candace tells Lexi she will say a prayer for her; Lexi says on-air: 'I am rejecting your prayer.' Candace says she'll say it anyway.”

OtherCandace Owens departs mid-show

“Candace leaves at ~1:47 to catch a flight. Brian announces Madison will take her seat. Prior to leaving, she offered Lexi a prayer; Lexi rejected it on-air.”

QuoteCandace says she's 'fascinated by hoes'

“Candace: 'I am absolutely fascinated by the ho mind works, the way the ho hive works.' Addresses panel directly, says she hopes she's been respectful.”

QuoteOlivia Bentley muscle worship session description

“Olivia describes being asked to do a 'muscle worship Dom session' where she 'beat him up and licked his veins.' Shows flex in show; panel reacts.”

QuoteTara asks Brian about Andrew Tate and marriage openness

“Tara references Candace Owens' interview with Andrew Tate where he said he's now open to marriage. Asks Brian if he's similarly persuadable; Brian gives extended anti-marriage argument citing Kevin Costner prenup failure.”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and guest backgrounds

Brian introduces panel; each guest states name, age, occupation. Includes Candace Owens discussing 'Convicting a Murderer' documentary releasing next day.

Relationship status and political views round

Panel goes around sharing relationship status, longest relationship, time single. Then political affiliations (liberal/progressive/conservative/moderate).

Viral 'Shakshuka' TikTok reaction

Panel reacts to viral Matt Walsh-shared video of 29yo woman celebrating childless Saturday. Candace Owens calls her a 'selfish bitch'; debate on whether the video is self-empowerment or narcissism.

Would you date a sex worker / men's standards for partners

Brian states he would not date a sex worker. Panel debates double standards. Discussion of whether subscribing to OF is equivalent to sex work.

Causes of sexual promiscuity and sex education

Pixie and Candace debate whether sex education increases or decreases promiscuity. Candace cites Thomas Sowell and 1970s data; Pixie argues abstinence-only backfires. Discussion of 'hoflation' concept (Paul Joseph Watson). Lexi defends sex work culture.

Candace Owens vs. panel on conservative values

Candace debates sex workers on LBJ / welfare state effects on dating market. Passport bro movement. How to raise daughters differently. Final questions before Candace departs at ~1:47.

Trans dating, gender identity, what is a woman

Would you date a trans person? Is it gay to date a trans woman? What defines 'woman'? Debate between Candace (binary), Pixie (spectrum), Aelia, Tara. Michigan misgendering felony bill discussed.

Olivia Bentley: sex work details and intimacy coaching

Olivia describes muscle worship Dom sessions, Bunny Ranch career, client volume (thousands). Panel questions on sleeping with unattractive clients, repeat clients, $100k client.

Brian's views on marriage and prenups

Tara asks Brian about Andrew Tate changing his mind on marriage. Brian explains opposition: divorce financial risk, alimony, prenups not ironclad (Kevin Costner example). Panel debate on whether picking right partner mitigates risk.

Supply and demand of sex work / men's role

Whether men create demand for sex work. Aelia argues men could end it via solidarity but won't. Debate on parasocial appeal of OnlyFans vs. free porn.

Partner type preferences round

Brian guesses each guest's ideal male type. Aelia: gentle gamer/nerdy. Essie: tatted, emotionally unavailable (reformed). Pixie: hipster/emo/intellectual. Lily: reformed frat boys. Madison: Cowboys/nice white guys with curly hair. Brian's type discussed: short, light eyes, alternative/colored hair.

Body count round

Brian asks each guest their body count. Lexi: <10 civilian; Aelia: stopped counting at ~5; Essie: 6; Tara: declined (parents watching, answered in prior episodes); Pixie: declined; Madison: declined; Lily: not captured. Olivia: thousands (working).

Transcript

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Brian Atlasbecause she can't have children children I mean I what I would recommend probably your strongest definition for what is a woman is just an adult human female mhm I just think in general everyone should

Aeliaworry less about other people's genitals period thank you because what does it matter it's not on your body it's on theirs like if you're not sleeping with them and it's like it's just not your business well I mean like if you're

Aeliahaving like an intellectual conversation about it like truth is kind of a big deal course I mean we can have the conversation but I think like the worrying of it of like oh are they trans are they this are they that what are they are they a woman are they a man I

Aelialike I don't think that we need to be having even indepth conversations about somebody else's body and somebody else's decision and how they feel because I don't think any of us can dictate how anyone else feels I think it's more of a

Taraconstructive conversation or debate if what you want to talk about is something like policy related like if you want to ask like a have a debate about like a question that um I don't think it's a stupid question like what is a woman to you you're asking you know for someone's

Taralike ideological take on it I just think it's more fruitful to have a conversation about like how should the law Define it or how should it like apply in society I just think that's a bit more of like interesting and constructive of a debate to have because

Tarait could have real consequences versus like I mean I was a philosophy major in college all you know half of philosophy philosophy gets hated on because like you know half of it is just arguing about a definition of something that's completely abstract in the first place

Tarait there it doesn't have a physical reality you know what I'm saying I mean by biological reality like that's different whatever I'm not even trying to get into that I'm just saying it's a philosophical argument where you're trying to ask when you ask people like

Brian Atlaswhat is the what is definition of woman to you it's not a philosophical argument well it's very relevant not a philosophical arum it's very simple it's very simple an adult human female but I think what

Pixieeveryone's trying to say did you check did you check if I had a dick before I came in here so here's one thing do that no did you did you check my chromosomes this is yeah no but like still call me a

Brian Atlaswoman did I I don't did I I would call you a woman but I you would call me woman I don't know if I called you a woman but I okay in any case did you check but that's oh Brian if you line

Brian Atlasokay here's the thing though if you lined up 100 women and 100 men with pretty accurate certainty you would be able like very easily be able

Brian Atlasto be like and excuse me females and males let me clarify you'd be pretty easily able to assess that's a woman that's a man yeah until they start

Pixiechanging their appearance and now not necessarily I there's a lot of passing people like the point is the fact that somebody even just one person passes already throws a wrench into the

Pixieargument because if it's supposed to be this pure biological thing then passing wouldn't be a question it would just be so when I was getting my master's degree

Olivia Bentleyin education I had to take lifean right I need to come C lifespan development and when we were

Olivia Bentleystudying lifespan development we were um studying transgender and transgender people just in case the there's this

Olivia Bentleyminuscule um statistical possibility that a child might reach out to us as Educators I was an actual teacher for children so we

Olivia Bentleystudied that and there's a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny min percentage of legitimate transgendered individuals in our society but now due to all of this

Olivia Bentleythis trendy stuff now everybody's jumping on the bandwagon now you've got kids in school when they're supposed to be studying saying oh I identify as a unicorn you have to call me a unicorn

Olivia Bentleytoday and if you don't you've got a a principal breathing down your neck saying that you have to that's happened to my son so that's where to me I'm

Olivia Bentleystarting to see mental illness happen I'm starting to see a trend of let's just jump on this whether it's true or not and let's put push buttons and let's

Aeliaget attention but I mean being transgender is actually already studied in Psychology it's gender dysphoria and it's a real thing where they legitimately feel like the opposite sex and I'm not saying that you're wrong with people maybe jumping on the

Aeliabandwagon but in the United States I believe I could be I don't know the exact statistic but I believe it's 0.04% of people in United States are transgender so legit yes and that's

Aeliathat's a very very very minuscule amount of people so and I don't believe in transition I think it should be up to the parents what they want to do and having them you know go to therapy and

Aeliago do those things in order to figure out whether it is just like a bandwagon thing and they're just hopping onto it or if they legitimately are and that it is something that they need to process and go through and talk to someone and maybe they are somebody that needs to

Olivia Bentleytransition later in life and that should be their choice the bandwagon stuff is scary especially when you've got California trying to create laws where if your 5-year-old comes to you and says

Olivia BentleyI feel like a boy today but that but biologically it's your little girl the that the lawmakers would actually start making you put into motion biological changes and changing their hormones okay

Essiebut I think that there's like a huge misconception with that because there's so many steps before it comes to hormone blockers or anything like that like they have to see a psychologist they have to go through therapy to determine if they actually are transgender so I think that's like

Aeliathat's like a huge misconception in the media and like propaganda of them putting that out there you are 100% right because it is they are blowing this out of proportion and scaring parents into believing that that's what's actually happening that they are like the second that your child says

Aeliathat they're the opposite gender that they feel that way that they're immediately being sent to doctors in order to completely change their sex and that's just not happening I hope that that's like the case that it's like not actually that

Tarayou know you have to you're legally required to go straight to hormone blockers but even if it's the case that the first thing is oh put them into therapy even if that's like the first tiny step it does I don't I'm pretty

Tarasure there's no law if your six-year-old 12-year-old 5-year-old comes to you and says I want to kill myself today no parents are legally required to put their kids in therapy so I'm kind of

Taraconf I know so I should be are we really curious about the kids best interest because I feel like there should be there should have been tens of if that's if that's how radical we want to go with it why are there not like hundreds of other laws already in there about like if your kid comes to you and says I want

Brian Atlasto kill myself you're legally required to put them in therapy I feel like it's because they're grooming moving on all right guys I gotta get a couple chats out of the way we have

Brian AtlasMr L mavi Slavic the full moon controls the tides just as the water in our bodies es and flows with the lunar cycle and just as the sun gives birth to

Brian AtlasCreation each day so too does it give birth to potential for growth and transformation within us thank you man appreciate it no idea what the [ __ ] that any of that beautiful words uh doc vanis question to the sex workers do you

Brian Atlasreally think that the men you attract outside of your work are are going to be mentally healthy and don't confuse mentally unhealthy with insecure Candace you are the bomb sorry man yeah she left

Aeliabut uh yeah go ahead um as somebody that's been in a relationship with a very very normal person for the last year and a half he is very mentally

Aeliahealthy he is probably the most kind patient um honestly just one of the most amazing men I've ever met he is you know it it almost feels like he's gone to

Aeliatherapy for years I don't know he just knows how to handle situations he knows how to handle conversations or difficult conversations I he's just an absolutely wonderful human being I don't have

Aeliaanything bad to say if anything I don't deserve him for sure but yeah I have a very mentally healthy boyfriend and I think it's very possible for sex workers to find those people and I have friends that have as well I

Aelialiterally wouldn't be anywhere without him I love him he's great and he's a great person just because I'm a sex worker doesn't mean that I'm not deserving of that any response to the

Brian Atlasquestion um we are just as deserving as having a healthy relationship with somebody that we love I'm trying to think what would be the mere opposite if

Brian AtlasI were to rephrase what would a what's the equivalent would the girls date a sex worker I

Brian Atlasthat's not the fair hold on that's not the fair equivalent like a dude who doesn't have a job I don't know that's that's because then they're not making money that's completely different yeah but what is the mirror opposite like

Brian Atlaslet's say among men who would view someone who does sex work as Among The Men Who Would view someone who does sex work as not

Brian Atlasdesirable for a partner what would be the mirror opposite like what profession or career would women like podcast to say yeah I preempted it I knew y y'all

Brian Atlaswere going to come for me I knew you were coming for me these toxic podcasts I don't know I feel like the all these white with their it's the same equivalent just flipped why why do we

Brian Atlaswhy is it yeah why is it not the same would it be the same way yeah yeah why would it not be a lot of women I don't know if it's a total like mirror opposite though you know so

Brian Atlasmen can be sex workers and everything's good and fine and they're cool right no no no that's not that's not what I'm really getting at I guess I'm more so getting at no in the same way that I think men care more about women's

Brian Atlaspromiscuity than the reverse not to say that there's definitely women out there that don't want to date a guy who's promiscuous or who has a high body count but I do think generally speaking women

Brian Atlastend to care a bit less or a bit less than men do when it comes to body count promiscuity maybe I'm just different because I do care I don't think I you wouldn't dat the sex worker bro you do sex work huh yeah but I have

Essierestrictions I do I post lingerie I wouldn't date a man who posts his Nudes on the internet but if he did if he dider it' be okay if he was doing the same things I would that's why I don't want to be hypocrite so I'm doing the

Brian Atlasthings that I would allow my partner to do as well what if it was like nude but not sex just n just peeing no nude no PE

Pixieswinging in the air no God no okay okay so then you wouldn't dat a okay all right I feel like this is a men uh this is a lie a lot of men tell each other the idea that like oh men can like sleep

Pixiearound a bunch or like have a bunch of like you know girlfriends and women won't care maybe you'll find a woman who doesn't care but I think most women like don't want that well that's not really

Pixiewhat I said oh no I I I'm not saying you specifically I'm saying that like this is a sentiment I've heard from from other people sure yeah okay all right yo I feel like maybe the reverse could just

Aeliabe guys who use like who like subscribe to like sex workers do you know I feel like that's the opposite like in my head could be which I would like not be okay with I but I don't know if that's technically the opposite yeah cuz you're

Taralike seeking like those like both are like types of boundaries though that like if the guy doesn't want his woman being shown to a bunch of dudes for money I don't want my

Aeliapartner being like paying to be shown a bunch of women for his money again I think the difference is that men are that that are subscribing to only fans are like going to seek out a sex worker they're like actively seeking that out in that connection with somebody else

Aeliawhereas somebody that's doing it as a job like we're not seeking out the men that are coming but they're still like selling out their sexuality I feel like that's like a boundary thing yeah let's just move on uh rare I don't know how to

Brian Atlaspronounce your name man but hey thank you uh you always talk about World of Warcraft why not raise the topic of the Illidan illin funeral raid oh on the realm

Brian AtlasIdan I they would not I it's just it no I will say though would any of you guys date a

Brian Atlasuh World of Warcraft gamer like 10 hours a day I did you did anybody here show up hands show up hands ladies no I did is he doing it professionally is it his job is he getting paid to no he's just a oh

Brian Atlasthat's different I did get someone doing it for he he's an amateur he does It For the Love of the Game he doesn't care about the money or the alkalides he

Brian Atlaswants the glory the glory he wants the Epic loots son wants the purples h j does he have a different job if he's working 10 hours for this game does he

Brian Atlashave time for another job time relation and wait not Jack donated a

Brian Atlas100 thank you man much appreciated only to thank you for all the gifted Subs on uh twitch and also thank you to audite not so what's her oh not so yeah she raided us on Twitch I I missed it

Brian Atlasearlier you should have her on she's really I'll shout out to Twitch people really quick yo DeVos thank for the oh I already read some of these uh big fella thank you for the Prime natu airide thank you for the Raid Bay Leaf thank you for the prime only toes thank you

Brian Atlasfor the 10 Community Subs appreciate it guys follow us twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a prime sub if you have one we have this guy hold on she literally doesn't know what she's

Pixietalking about my best friends are black I don't act black whoa oh my God are you a racist I literally said you need a

Pixiehistorical claim like hello that goes that he's proving my point pixie wow you guys caught me you know what if you were like adopted by a by a black that's

Pixieyou're still missing the historical claim right still not what wait what historical claim no I know like ancestry what do you mean that your ancestry you know like slavery is that what oh my God

Brian Atlasthat your ancestry she's the one who said slavery ancestry belong to whatever culture you're claiming to be a part of okay I thought you were bringing the slavery thing back into it again okay

Brian Atlasall right we have a couple more chats we have wait hold on uh we have goodest boy if pixie is confused on Jiao how to

Brian Atlasdefine trans men man/ women then how the hell are the rest of us supposed to figure it out without offending or catching a charge I'm not offend am I how did I

Lexicome off as offended like I I know your lips quivering a little bit I'm just kidding I'm kidding I'm kiding just terrified without offending offending

Pixielike a transgender person like misgendering them or something yeah no I think um from my personal experience it's completely anecdotal most of the trans people I've met like if I've

Pixiemisgendered them or whatever they never like really get upset at me they're like oh I prefer if you call me this and then if you keep if you're kind of an [ __ ] and you're like no I'm going to call you whatever I want deal with it whatever then they're like okay [ __ ] you I'm I'm

Lexigoing bye go ahead I heard that there's like a state where you can get fine $10,000 for misgendering somebody like Michigan or something like

Brian Atlasthat that never heard is this true in the US yes that sounds maybe can can I look it up sure sure sure all right we have yant uh just save it oh thanks

Brian AtlasChris thank you thank you Chris you're the homie I think that was a bill they were trying yavon how yo y can you please tell me how to pronounce your name because I I don't like to I I don't like to [ __ ] it up oh wait let me read this one again she is lost haven't lived

Brian Atlaswith my parents since 16 I don't know how that's related pixie wait what was he has not lived with his parents since he was 16 who

Brian Atlasthis guy cool can yeah I I yeah cool awesome good for you sweet okay uh how do you I found the article when what is it really quick do you want to oh I'll

Brian Atlasyeah sure we need to fix your screen it's fixed it's just the screen protector I know we got to get you a new one no I don't want none you like it all busted like this okay M Michigan house passes

Brian Atlasbill that could make unless you want to give me wrong pronouns I'm not sure about that uh wrong pronouns of felony finable up to 000 but then it get sign into law this is Fox News that says

Brian Atlaspasses bill I would have to read the house passes the bill it has to go it has to yeah it has to get and then

Brian Atlasby the governor I think yeah so but they did pass I mean it is in the wow yeah making using wrong pronouns of felony

Brian Atlasbut it could be there's also like I I've heard stories about this and sometimes it's within the confines of of like if you're working for it might not be like to every

Brian Atlascitizen it might just be like if you're in a healthare setting in any case I still think in a healthcare setting that's ridiculous but I've read about um the [ __ ] was

Brian Atlasthat did is Nick Googling something I did uh the Fox News article yes we'll pull it up really quick why not oh it's

Brian Atlasgone oh it's fine it's fine okay we have wait did that read that one no no no no no I think he sent it twice the madman

Brian Atlashe sent it twice the madman okay no he's explaining can tell me oh okay sorry hey dude sorry we weren't able to get to it unfortunately she did have to uh get out of here but um the correlation of Lynden B Johnson with men being in

Brian Atlasrelationships with only fans women is the fact that these men did not have an everyday Father Figure to steer them away from such women true or false what did it have to do with Lyndon

Brian AtlasB Johnson I'm so confused so confused Wasing would not have approved of your Lifestyles okay the [ __ ] cherry tree answer the [ __ ] cherry tree was a

Brian Atlasdisgrace I don't know what the okay uh anyway you can you P please just send another chat though I really want to know how to pronounce her name because it's confusing to me okay uh the cast man thank you man you don't thank you

Brian Atlasvery much guys uh you don't need to check someone's biology to know if someone is a man or a woman I can tell based on body shape like all other sane people also if sex and gender are not

Brian Atlasthe same why do men cut their D's off to become women it's gender not sex affirming care it looks like you have the second half I I like honestly I was

Aeliaso clocked into the first part but the first part I know for a fact is not true because there are plenty of situations that have already happened where somebody thought that they could clock somebody that was trans and they were

Aeliacompletely incorrect there are women that have masculine features and they look more masculine and they are still women and same with the opposite people can be androgynous just because your body shape doesn't look particularly

Aeliafeminine doesn't mean you're not a woman and are a trans person that's just a lad of BS

Brian Atlasyeah yeah period she ate that I feel like I'd be very skilled at identifying you would think that but there would be there wouldn't be people

Tarathat are bre body shape though cuz I feel like you a woman you only wouldn't be able to tell his woman if she like was completely flat chest well there are women that have broad shoulders there are women that are have a more masculine

Aeliabuild I mean like every we come in all shapes and sizes I mean this has already happened that people have not been able to tell there have been women that have gotten arrested for using the women's restroom because someone thought they

Aeliawere trans and they were actually just a masculine presenting women so I'm going to like you you can't tell men wouldn't be crying about being tricked or whatever if clocking 100% of the time it's just not

Brian Atlasaccurate they tricked them how do you pronounce this guy's name is that how you pronounce your name can you please clarify okay thank you man uh okay I got a couple questions

Brian Atlashere for the panel so Olivia muscle worship huh what the what is that you in your pre-show notes to us

Brian Atlasyou said something about muscle worship I was recently asked to go to to should go do a muscle worship Dom session where I beat him up and I licked his veins

Brian Atlaswhat happened there this is wild guys do you have are you a muscle so I do I do Fitness competitions can we see the oh the tries okay yeah we got oh the lats

Olivia Bentleypretty good too don't don't don't sleep on her lats so I do Fitness competitions and I live can we see a bicep

Brian Atlasyeah all right okay there um so you beat the the dude up how much does that cost extra to beat a dude up or is it almost

Olivia Bentleyit's a specialty it's okay so yeah um it's interesting and then after I did that um it got some Fanfare on um

Olivia BentleyTwitter and then these dominatrix had me on their uh Spotify podcast but this gentleman got a hold of me and said it's due to your physique but I I like women

Olivia Bentleywho are really ripped it'd be even better if were even more ripped on like steroids which I thought was fascinating Nick leave it a [ __ ] okay never mind

Olivia Bentleyokay and he uh and so he wanted to lick my veins and he wanted me to choke him um I did Brazilian jiu-jitsu for a while so I would kind of initiate the rear

Olivia Bentleynaked choke on him and he was fully erected just loving it and so I mean it just kind of went like that and he totally got off on it I I got the Nick

Olivia Bentleyhold on I got it start again um okay we can start however you want no I I heard it so it it's it's a fetish thing and

Olivia Bentleyit's fascinating there's a whole world of guys that yeah that want that want this so it's it's psychologically interesting for me because here he is getting erected and he's enjoying this

Olivia Bentleyso I'm having to gauge and then I'll go kind of like really Cal I have a question for the both of you so disclaimer for the viewers for

Brian Atlasthe ladies here I would never do this let me paint a scenario and I want you to tell me how much it would cost to hire one of

Brian Atlasyou um cortison to fulfill my hypothetical fantasy what if I wanted to play chess with you while watching The

Brian AtlasLion King and then afterwards I wanted to engage in a joust fully clothed what is the cost for that or are you just down to do it for

Brian Atlasfree cuz that [ __ ] sounds kind of fun is that like a whole night or how long like a solid I think that' take about 70

Brian Atlasminutes maybe 90 minutes well legally technically techn we can't disclose pricing hold on it's not there's no sex

Brian Atlasokay I just want to play Lexi right right I would love to spend a night with you play some chess watch The Lion King

Lexiand then [ __ ] joust you son what I'd have to take a 10% it's a in the four fig range and I'd have to take a 10% deposit to book that appointment four

Brian Atlasfigures yes what if I provide the horses around that there there's yeah it's a joust do I have to pay for like uh health insurance in case you get [ __ ]

Olivia Bentleyup in the Jou in the Jou or during chess you never know I have my own but I have been known to violently throw chess pieces what how much would it cost it's

Olivia Bentleyit we're looking at um a four figure four figure yeah like a thousand smackaroos thousand bucks for the amount of time that you're talking yeah go up

Essie70 but like oh wow okay you guys we're highend yeah legal oh okay I would do it for a $2 bill and like a 12pack of pizza

Brian Atlasrules woohoo we can uh talk after the show should stream it that would be good that would be good okay um I don't know I go to the most ridiculous places okay

Brian Atlasso um I had it oh chats right I think are we caught up on the chats here spoter guy yo thank you man appreciate it RAV 805 says cringe I don't know if

Brian Atlasthat I don't think that's in response to my ridiculous scenario but okay we have uh to she's saying she's in an idiot who I don't know who I never know

Brian AtlasI don't know who he's talking about oh it's that guy I don't know how to I still don't know how to pronounce your name dude please tell me how to pronounce your name uh and then we have

Brian Atlasnot Jack coming up here in just a sex SE SEC excuse me not Jack says since the dawn of time female promiscuity has been

Brian Atlasabored even to the point where women were killed for it get the Stones it's still frowned upon in most most of the world today so why in the west are we

Brian Atlasgoing to pretend that it's now okay also lose the cross witch do you have anything to say to him he just insulted you or complimented you I take that as a compliment it's also by the way it's not

Lexia cross a sword it's a sword okay you were just you were trying to get under her skin it's so totally a sword girl it's not even a cross okay I know cont

Olivia Bentleythe profession empowering so I'm really glad that it's it's not the opposite where we're getting to death no I mean

Brian Atlasyeah I find our profession empowering oh okay uh aalia you were on the show before had lots of disagreements there uh what was the big

Aeliathing that I oh my God we are not doing this tonight we're not doing this I love it what were we because I would take it back anyways I like looped myself into something and I couldn't go back on it

Aeliaso I was just doubling down honestly I don't I we were we were talking about who has a harder time in like getting notx was it specifically sex are getting or dating I thought it was dating in

Brian Atlasgeneral I think it was it could have been both we might have been talking about who's is dating harder for men or women and then uh getting laid who has it harder yeah that's what it was wait

Aeliaso hold on you're backing you're walking back I'm walking back no come on but but okay but but you have to you have to hear me out I I don't disagree with everything I said I do think that women do go up to men in bars and they actually like do talk to them and ask

Aeliamen out I would say okay you're correct in your erroneous erroneous I'm agreeing with you no no no but like the but but what I'm walking back is my point in

Aeliasaying that was I think that dating is more difficult for men and they have less options because of the way that they treat women and these boxes that they Place women in and that was my

Pixieerroneous erone I disavow wait what I was going to say I think um dating is also is harder for women in the sense in the sense context right a little posture check just so we can get you closer to the mic yeah it's all good um I think

Pixiedating is harder for a woman in the sense that it's like oh women are socially conditioned to like fear and be wary of men so you know every single time a guy comes up and does the courage to ask a girl out she has to go through

Pixielike a million possibilities of like can I trust him is he safe is he going to put something my drink if I don't reject him in the right way is he going to get aggressive is he going to call me a [ __ ] blah blah blah so I think like that makes daating really difficult for woman but I think ultimately affects

Aeliaboth negatively cuz now everyone's paranoid and worry about each other I mean like we literally just saw that on Twitter like this week the brick hurt around the world that a woman

Aeliarejected a guy and he hit her in the face of the brick on wait do we see the video like do you actually see the video of her getting hit like she takes a video immediately after there's it's in the hospital but she definitely got

Brian Atlasthere's another video of her right after it happened I I saw the photo of the injury and then I think I saw the video where she was blaming men for having not protected her

Brian Atlasin the situation but then I saw a video she had released either right before she went out where she was basically talking [ __ ] about

Brian Atlasmen and then and then she was like but I also saw wait no no no no no no hold on there was another video that came out

Aeliawhere [ __ ] what did she do she like slapped she slapped a guy that's it was a skit though what it was a skit all of her content prior to that they were

Brian Atlasskits and even said in her bio like all work is consensual blah blah blah well she could say that as like a plausible denied like but it looked like a

Aeliaskit like it looked like she hit him pretty [ __ ] hard if I recall I mean it could be a kink thing who knows I don't know like but again when she's in the situation

Tarafor him to like throw a woman a brick at her you do you think obviously it's not I'm just saying I'm just making the point of like what like I I don't even know anything about I'm not trying to defend this guy for like throwing a brick at her but I'm just like maybe

Aeliait's a kink like I don't know I think that's like if it's consensual and she's hitting him in the face and that's what he wants that's completely different than her saying no I don't want your number and somebody picking up a brick and smashing her in the face those are

Aeliatwo completely different scenarios they're not even compar if it is a kink but you were just like throwing it out there because it could be it's consensual we don't but it's a skit so obviously the St was consensual whether

Brian Atlasit was a kink or not the way she was acting in the video she seemed pretty [ __ ] loose not in a sexual sense but like loose in her behavior

Brian Atlaslike I mean if you're acting like a [ __ ] no I'm not saying it it justifies anybody being physically assaulted but if you're acting like a [ __ ] lunatic

Brian Atlaslike there's other crazy people out there that don't have the like that that don't abide by the social

Brian AtlasContra contract and if you tread on them in any way they're going to be like [ __ ] this person I'm a smash him in the face the Bri should get punched you believe wait do you believe

Brian Atlasin that Nazis should get punched out of curiosity do I believe H this this is an interesting question um well I don't think

Brian Atlasthat I object to Nazis certainly um do I think we'd have to Define specifically what you mean by Nazi and then what are

Pixiethey saying but across the board I'm against physical violence okay so you agree with the brick scenario is like you're against it

Brian Atlasright I'm against it but like is it shocking to me if you go out in public and you're like talking [ __ ] to people I don't know what this woman did so I I'm only speculating

Brian AtlasI saw one video where she was really act it seemed like she was acting very very wild if you go out in public I don't know if she was in some like bar environment where alcohol is involved

Brian Atlaslike if you're acting like a [ __ ] [ __ ] in an environment where people are drinking heavily and you're like antagonizing people not everybody has their head screwed on straight so you got to

Brian Atlaslike like there's a lot of I mean there's a lot of violence when you're out at bars and clubs people constantly get into fights if it wasn't the case they wouldn't need bouncers they wouldn't need Securities in nightclub

Brian Atlasenvironments so she was out night on the town um again I don't know the full details I don't know the full context of what happened I didn't see all the videos I did see a video she was acting like pretty out of pocket with some of

Brian Atlasher [ __ ] so should she have been physically assaulted no but like if it's not surprising does that make

Brian Atlassense yeah I guess yeah sure it does it I I see where you're coming from I agree with you like if I if I go to a dangerous neighborhood and I'm an antagonizing the people in the

Pixieneighborhood like you're asking for it I'm ask like it's uh no I agree with you I'm just CU we can't really say anything without the full context that's a problem yeah I I only I didn't see the full video so anyways I because because

Aeliaof what she's saying is accurate obviously again we don't know but if what she's saying is accurate and a man asked her for her phone number and she rejected him and his response was to pick up a brick and hit her in the face

AeliaI think that there is no justification whether her prior content pictured her slapping men consensually or whatever the case may be it doesn't justify obviously those men don't know that she has these skits online and that that's the type of person she is when she got

Brian Atlashit in the face so there is no justification of it if the if the details are guy approached her she red she rejected him he picks up her brick

Brian Atlasand smashes her in the face absolutely wrong right if if a girl rejects you oh hey nice to meet you have a good night like that's it it's just move on you know all right I mean let's let's move

Aeliaon from that it's kind of irrelevant unrelated well let me just yeah yeah sorry I just have I have one more thing to say CU we related to related to The Brick thing well it's tying back into what we were talking about before just that's why um what she was saying about

Aeliawomen when we get approached in bars or whatever because we do have to have that process and that analysis of like the potential things that could possibly happen when a man asks to take us out or get our phone number or whatever the case may be so that's the only thing I

Aeliawanted to say and that's why your point made sense and why we brought it up in the first place but we just have to think about let me ask you a question pixie so if I went out to like

Brian Atlasa a bar and I walked up to a guy with not threatening physical violence but I just started calling him a [ __ ] over and over you might say that it would be

Brian Atlaswrong for him to physically attack me but should I be surprised if he does no like that's yeah yeah yeah yeah so um

Brian Atlasyou know um okay so like I wouldn't be surprised like if I just walked up to a big dude and I was like dude you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] like I'm like there's a pretty good chance like get hit I might

Brian Atlasget hit get hit should I get hit no but I shouldn't be surprised when I do um so let's see we have a couple chats here we have

Brian Atlast sorry uh it's German first initial last name oh leer leer leer T leer uh last name is pronounced like dragon's

Brian Atlaslayer to layer to layer last name literally means teacher specifically a male teacher well uh Dona Shine for the uh donation man much

Brian Atlasappreciated let's see here we have wait hold on trying to pull up my notes here wait what was it did you have

Tarasomething I you had something I know you had something messaged you or yeah oh my gosh it was so long ago I have a question for you yes go ahead I know previously on the show you've really

Taralike been adamant about the fact that you don't want to be married yeah right but did you see um I was watching the Andrew Tate interview with Candace Owens and in it she asked him would you ever

Taraconsider getting married and he says if you asked me like 10 years ago I would say no but now I'm not opposed to it so I was wondering what your thoughts on that were okay it's interest it's so

Brian Atlaswhen it comes to Andrew Tate first off he says 10 years ago but he did an interview on your mom's house podcast where and this must have been it was

Brian Atlaswithin the past two years he did this interview I think um and he was very as recently as two years ago very much against marriage for some of the same

Tarareasons that I've articulated on this show um but so your question to me is what why am I against marriage or yeah I guess are you like persuaded At All by he seems to have been persuaded away

Tarabecause when he was giving his answers I was like oh my God that sounds exactly like what Brian says for all of the reasons that you give for why you're against marriage sure but then he says

Brian Atlasto Candice that he has changed his mind and now would be open to it so I'm I'm wondering if maybe you've found your thoughts changing at all sure well I mean I I think I can say this about

Brian AtlasAndrew Tate is he uh he was an atheist and then he became Christian and then he converted or I think they they call it reversion do are you familiar with that

Brian Atlaswell in any case he reverted to Islam and he became a Muslim uh and I think him getting very much involved with religion has reshaped his view on

Brian Atlasmarriage um but I don't think it dis I don't think that dismisses some of the concerns he previously raised or some

Brian Atlasconcerns that I've raised in the past um so you know I actually it's it's not so much that I have a problem with marriage it's that I have a problem with divorce

Brian Atlasso marriage is wonderful true it's just it's Ace but obviously make a good choice but obviously if you get married one of the potential negative outcomes

Brian Atlasfrom that would be uh divorce now from a religious perspective I don't object to divorce at all but when it comes to you

Brian Atlasknow most marriages you go to the courthouse you go to the state you get a marriage license that gives you certain benefits

Brian Atlasbut um I'm very much against it because in divorce you have alimony uh if there's a divorce not let's say the whoever's the bread winner you got to

Brian Atlaspay for your own lawyer you got to pay for their lawyer it's just very financially risky it's very expensive and Al alimony comes in we have Kevin cner who we're in Santa Barbara uh they

Brian Atlasin the Santa Barbara Courthouse because the divorce is being overseen by uh the county of Santa Barbara uh they just awarded his wife like 100 I don't know

Brian Atlasthe exact number $150,000 it's this is an exact guys don't quote me but around $150,000 a month mon in uh child support and that you hear all these stories of these you know celebrities obviously I

Brian Atlasknow celebrities aren't perfect examples but you hear or just even wealthy people and they get destroyed in marriage the alimony the contentious divorce you got

Tarato pay for both the lawyers it's it's absurd do you think if you fell in love with a girl who was who really wanted to get married maybe because she was religious maybe she's not religious and marriage is just important to her do you

Tarathink you would consider it or do you think still you know it's still a hard no no matter what there's no open door there's more there's no open to it no matter who the partner is because I'm assuming you're not you know you're not foolish you're not going to marry any

Tarajust any woman if you were to get married it would be with someone you're very certain about I think would be a good choice but basically are you open to it at all especially if it was important to a woman you cared about I

Brian Atlasmean it would or is it just you think me well me it's a deal breaker well me caring caring about a woman does nothing

Brian Atlasto remedy my concerns when it comes to divorce um I wouldn't I I don't want to 100% rule out marriage but this woman

Aeliawould have to be so compelling like I would have to be so sure the largest lady I was about to say the same thing oh is that is that what you were no it's I have something else

Aeliato say but I was about to say that too um I guess my question would be I'll answer your question but go ahead sorry I was just about to say what about if you got a prenup because then okay yep

Aeliathat could take away some of the financial aspect of the divorce and kind of keep you in the clear if that happened how what if you fell in love with a woman and she was okay with doing that would that be something then that

Brian Atlasyou might be more inclined to consider okay so as far as the prup goes no prup is going to save you if the woman is

Brian Atlasmotivated enough because all she has to say is well I was coerced into it and um you know I I um I thought he would you know not want to you know stay with you

Brian Atlasknow whatever you can make up a whole bunch of stuff they're gonna here's the thing Uh Kevin cner um who had a prup Ironclad prup had lawyers review it it

Brian Atlaswasn't just some oh let's download a prenup from internet no he Kevin cner had prenups drafted up by probably the most competent lawyers in California um

Brian Atlasmaybe I don't know if they were in Santa Barbara and it doesn't really matter um and his wife is challenging the prenup in court so even if there is a prenup

Brian Atlasand even even if the prenup is rock solid there's still an opening for a woman to challenge the prenup and that opens up okay cool let's litigate it I still have to pay for your attorney so

Brian Atlasnow I'm paying for my attorney to defend the prenup which we agreed to and I have to pay for your attorney who's litigating this um basically with Kevin lner uh very wealthy actor um he's got

Brian Atlaslike a I don't know 10 million $15 million property in monoco just outside of Santa Barbara um the prenup said that if she initiated a divorce she'd have to move

Brian Atlasout of the family house she would get 1.5 million uh dollars just immediately uh but that would be the extent of any sort of alimony payments I think so right now she's just going after child

Brian Atlassupport uh so the kids can keep up their lives to the tune of $150,000 a month um so prenups constantly get challenged uh and sometimes even thrown out we had this

Brian Atlashappen with Dr Dre he had a prenup uh prenup prenups are not Ironclad and like I said if you are motivated enough as as a woman you can

Brian Atlasjust it's not a prup is not going to save you financially if she's motivated enough or he's motivated let's let's well sure but sure but you're asking

Brian Atlastalking asking about my specific and I wouldn't marry a man so um but I mean I would just also say you just never sign a contract with someone who is rewarded

Brian Atlasfor breaking it so uh marriage is a contract again I don't object to it from a religious perspective like getting married cool that's that's wonderful however uh and I've I kind of always say

Brian Atlasthis but if your wife decides to divorce you she's not going to turn to her religion to to help preside over the divorce she's

Brian Atlasgoing to go to the state and the state presides ultimately over the financial components of your marriage so this idea that okay we'll

Brian Atlasjust marry a really religious woman well okay when you get a divorce she's not going to God she's not going to her pastor she's not going to her priest she's not going to the church she's

Taragoing to the state you're saying when though so I personally I think if you are open to the possibility of divorce you shouldn't get married in the first place so I guess my assumption here is

Tarayou're going into I wouldn't it's a hard no on marriage because there's a possibility of divorce she could divorce me and then the risk is too much I just personally I I honestly just don't think like if you are open to the idea of

Brian Atlasdivorce I don't think you should be getting married I think you should be doing the can I ask you a question can I and I I'll try to reel you guys in here in a sec um would you want your doctor to disclose

Brian Atlasto you let's say you're about to undergo a a procedure a surgery would you want your doctor to disclose to you the uh potential complications of undertaking the

Brian Atlasprocedure in fact they're legally compelled to disclose but I assume you'd want your doctor to tell you well uh there's a 10% chance of this you're going to have XYZ uh there's a chance of

Tarait depends on the [ __ ] procedure you know you could have whatever I get where you're going it just comes down to picking a good partner so if you're thinking of I'm assuming here you you would only ever get married if you

Taragenuinely this isn't just because like you're like H I got no other like I'm bored like I don't want to be lonely I'm going to do this because I'm just like afraid to like I don't want to be not married I mean like I'm I'm assuming you

Tarawould only marry someone if you were if you knew for certain their values you knew them very well you knew they themselves were not open to the possibility of divorce sure but let me ask you a question

Brian Atlasum how many people who do get married think that exact same way about their partner um how many people who get married think I'm going to spend the rest of my life with this person how many people think when they are getting

Taramarried yeah we're probably going to be divorced like most people I assume going into marriage honest I think I think the possibility of divorce is very present to the majority of people nowadays who are getting married think of like imada

Tarawho Candace mentioned she's you know the idea of making it trendy to be divorced by 30 if divorce is normalized what I'm saying is open to the possibility of divorce clearly the majority of people

Taraare very open to the possibility of divorce if it's a trendy thing or super normalized to get divorced is what I mean is what I mean are you sorry are you planning to have children or no good

Pixiequestion I'd like I'd like to have children do you think that being in a two parent household that's like married is better than like a non-married

Brian Atlashousehold um I suppose there are certain uh like tax benefits I guess if you're married that are in my view fairly minimal um I guess because you

Brian Atlascould file your taxes a little differently the only other benefit that I see is when it comes to your estate if

Brian Atlasyou die and you're married I don't but I'm not I'm not an a state attorney so I I don't know but it's not clear to me let me paint a scenario for everybody I know I I'll get

Brian Atlasyou in and I'll get you in here in just a sec let me paint a scenario right so you got two couples uh one gets married one doesn't they

Brian Atlasstay together for their entire lives they both have three children there's no infidelity they're monogamous what's the

Brian Atlasdifference yeah no I don't think um what is it anybody what's the like I I don't see the difference in term like if we're speaking on the benefits but there's

Brian Atlasthere's often this argument of well marriage is beneficial to society but it's not clear like if you have you could basically replicate exactly what

Brian Atlasyou have in the marriage stay together for the rest of your life have kids you don't need to be married to have kids you don't need to be married to stay together for the rest of your life and being monogamous and love each other so

Brian Atlasit's not clear to me like what what is the benefit for marriage besides tradition and for religious reasons I agree based are you wanting to have like

Lilya a wedding like not saying like to get married and sign a contract yeah you this gu spending money on a part was money day you're going to actually get married that's because I feel like the

Taraonly kind of woman that you're going to be interested in Brian is going to be I feel like the only type of woman you would feel happy settling for not just settling for but being with is a woman who takes things like marriage like I

Tarajust don't see you with a woman who's like atheist and wouldn't want to get married or like something like that unless you see that for yourself religious and not want to get married yeah we're just religious and not want to get married I but okay so this kind

Brian Atlasof like if I can almost tie this into um promiscuity virginity low body count a little bit but so you're saying that the type of woman that I would be attracted

Brian Atlasto is likely to be religious yeah I just feel like I mean I disagree cuz Okay well let's say if one let's say one of my standards or preferences are maybe I just don't know you that well but maybe

Brian Atlasyou don't but uh well I think this idea that like conservative women or religious women have some like exclusive

Brian Atlasclaim to um virginity or non promiscuity is kind of facius and wait salacious no I I

Brian Atlasthink it's I think I uh well I think it's erroneous because I think like I think you can be a liberal or

Brian Atlasmoderate or a political woman or even an atheist and have desirable uh traits and values at least when it comes to like

Brian Atlasnon promiscuity not uh having a low body count or even being a virgin now do I think it's maybe the case that liberal women compared to conservative women

Brian Atlasthey're more likely to engage like be pris more probably but then there's a lot of there are a fair

Brian Atlasamount of conservative women who they be [ __ ] too so um but I would say generally probably conservative women

Brian Atlasare probably lean more towards like promise or not excuse me non promiscuity virginity low body count Etc so I don't think like just bringing

Brian Atlasback to what you said I don't think that in order for me to find the type of girl that I want she necessarily has to be conservative or Rel just more likely it's just honestly especially today I

Tarajust genuinely think it's just more likely that she'll probably end up being religious and then probably care to get married it's just like my guess I mean a lot of religious women though they got

Tarathe P I'm not saying all Rel I'm not saying all girls who are religious or conservative are not promiscuous I'm not saying all girls that are liberal or atheist are [ __ ] I'm not saying that

TaraI'm just saying that it's more I mean I've just found this personally in my own life like the closer I've gotten in my the more religious I've become over time the more like obvious and clear it

Tarais that promiscuity is bad and doesn't serve me in the ways that maybe I felt like I was taught growing up yeah it might be easier for me to find uh a

Brian Atlaspartner that that matches or meets my criteria or whatever who's religious she it a religious woman might be more

Brian Atlaslikely to fall within my criteria actually speaking of which Lily um last time you were on the show I already know what you're about to ask me yes last time you were on the show so okay you're

Brian Atlasyou're a you're Christian conservative correct yes um you and last time on the show you said you're waiting until marriage is that correct yes okay but you said that this I think you were on

Lilythe show a month ago yeah that I had a Miss up you had a Miss up yes yes I did it's a mess up like I I made a promise to myself in the Lord months ago that I was going to save myself for marriage

Lilyand start over and look for the man that I'm going to spend the rest of my life with and then there was a mistake and admitting that is I don't find shame in it either to also be so you made a

Lilymistake I I slept with somebody in the time period that I promised I wouldn't and I made a mistake and I'm sinful and you know I regret it and of course I regret it because I made a promise to myself I made promise to the Lord any

Brian Atlasupdates we asked cuz I told you you need to come back on in a month or two and give us an update if you've stayed true I have stayed true you've stayed true okay why do you think that happened what do you think influenced that for you it

Lilywas an ex-boyfriend right oh yes in a lot of things just throughout my life I feel like I've been seen as an object being a woman being somewhat attractive

Lilyand any relationship that I've ever been in or dated men even on the internet like getting direct messages and comments and stuff I don't know I just I

Lilyfeel like an object and I don't want the person that I'm gonna be with to see me like that and if they are wanting to be with me as a soul and take care of who I am as a person they are going to be

Brian Atlaswilling to wait wait I'm a little confused you what what is the object thing that you're talking about I'm a little confused like a sexual object you view yourself men view me as a sexual

Brian Atlasobject and how that they object they objectify me how so they view me as a body and a meat bag and not as a person who has a soul wait are are you talking about the men you've had relationships with yes even the me

Brian Atlasthe men you've had sex with and who you've had relationships with they view you as a a meat bag absolutely I've been in relationships with men who were narcissists and sociopath the first time I've heard that and they might not say

Lilythat directly to you but when you're in a relationship with somebody for three years and they're sociopath they say it in as many ways as they possibly can without saying it straight up had a little guy that was like the little it was like a little thing well a

Lexilittle guy it was like a little thing you know what I mean yeah like a a situationship a sh situation [ __ ] sh shitty [ __ ] [ __ ] situation yeah okay and when you and I've been there

Lilywith ins situationship just dating somebody and you find this trust with them and you're sleeping with them and you think that there's a commitment and all of a sudden there's not because they're a lot of men are using you and

Essiethey're tempted by lust with other things sorry I didn't want Tov um so you had been a virgin up until a few months ago when you no I was born again they people say like in Christian terms like

Aeliaagain when when did you lose your virginity at what age I'm not sure I I don't want to disclose that honestly okay that's fine that's personal I mean I totally relate to what you're saying as far as men viewing you

Aeliaas an object that's why I was celibate pretty much for years before I met my boyfriend but you found somebody that loves you and wants to well that's why like obviously it changed and he's wonderful so I I didn't want to wait till marriage it wasn't like that for me

Aeliabut I wanted to find somebody that respected me and would wait and would hold out and wanted and liked me as a person exactly wanted me as a person because like you can't tell a lot of the time and then when you do withhold it

Aeliayou see like over those two years the amount of men I would date they're like what do you mean what do you mean you I don't get to sleep what do you mean and I'm like they feel like entitled to your

Brian Atlasbody because wait wait can you just the the entitled your body thing mhm are you saying within a relationship yes or yes

Lilyin a relationship or even when you're just starting to date somebody I've been on dates with men only like a couple weeks in and they are assuming that it is their they're getting something out of me I'm like dude and the the amount

Aeliaof pressure that some of the menal put on you is so like it was it was actually insane when I did like when I went celibate how much pressure was put on you until Cate you like make it clear and they're like what again what do you

Brian Atlasyou set a boundary and they get angry with you set boundary one point of clarification for the two of you when you both opted to become celibate were you in the middle of a relationship no

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