Candace Owens DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! | Dating Talk #98

Date: 2023-09-08

Duration: 4h 21m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

PPixie (DT130)>

OOlivia Bentley >

CCandace Owens >

MMadison (DT115)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Lexi(guest)

SPEAKER_04Tara(guest)

SPEAKER_05Pixie(guest)

SPEAKER_06Candace Owens(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_08Olivia Bentley(guest)

SPEAKER_09Essie(guest)

SPEAKER_10Aelia(guest)

SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_12Lily(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteCandace Owens introduction and documentary pitch

“Candace introduces herself as 'a wife, a mother first' and political commentator. Discusses 'Convicting a Murderer' 10-part Daily Wire documentary releasing next day on X.”

ControversyCandace calls Shakshuka TikTok woman a 'selfish bitch'

“After panel reacts to viral childless-Saturday TikTok, Candace says the woman is 'a selfish bitch and men should not marry her' — the panel pushes back.”

QuoteOlivia Bentley: working body count in thousands

“Olivia: 'I'm thinking it's probably in the thousands at this point.' Did 10 clients/day at peak at Bunny Ranch; called herself 'the Energizer Bunny.'”

QuoteCandace introduces 'hoflation' concept

“Candace credits Paul Joseph Watson's 'hoflation' concept: men now work harder to obtain lower-value women, compared to grandparents' era.”

QuoteCandace's final remarks on trans identity

“Candace: 'If you are a man and having sex with a man, irrespective of how you feel or whether you've mutilated your body... two men coming together to have sex with their appendices intact is homosexual sex.'”

ControversyLexi rejects Candace's prayer offer

“Candace tells Lexi she will say a prayer for her; Lexi says on-air: 'I am rejecting your prayer.' Candace says she'll say it anyway.”

OtherCandace Owens departs mid-show

“Candace leaves at ~1:47 to catch a flight. Brian announces Madison will take her seat. Prior to leaving, she offered Lexi a prayer; Lexi rejected it on-air.”

QuoteCandace says she's 'fascinated by hoes'

“Candace: 'I am absolutely fascinated by the ho mind works, the way the ho hive works.' Addresses panel directly, says she hopes she's been respectful.”

QuoteOlivia Bentley muscle worship session description

“Olivia describes being asked to do a 'muscle worship Dom session' where she 'beat him up and licked his veins.' Shows flex in show; panel reacts.”

QuoteTara asks Brian about Andrew Tate and marriage openness

“Tara references Candace Owens' interview with Andrew Tate where he said he's now open to marriage. Asks Brian if he's similarly persuadable; Brian gives extended anti-marriage argument citing Kevin Costner prenup failure.”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and guest backgrounds

Brian introduces panel; each guest states name, age, occupation. Includes Candace Owens discussing 'Convicting a Murderer' documentary releasing next day.

Relationship status and political views round

Panel goes around sharing relationship status, longest relationship, time single. Then political affiliations (liberal/progressive/conservative/moderate).

Viral 'Shakshuka' TikTok reaction

Panel reacts to viral Matt Walsh-shared video of 29yo woman celebrating childless Saturday. Candace Owens calls her a 'selfish bitch'; debate on whether the video is self-empowerment or narcissism.

Would you date a sex worker / men's standards for partners

Brian states he would not date a sex worker. Panel debates double standards. Discussion of whether subscribing to OF is equivalent to sex work.

Causes of sexual promiscuity and sex education

Pixie and Candace debate whether sex education increases or decreases promiscuity. Candace cites Thomas Sowell and 1970s data; Pixie argues abstinence-only backfires. Discussion of 'hoflation' concept (Paul Joseph Watson). Lexi defends sex work culture.

Candace Owens vs. panel on conservative values

Candace debates sex workers on LBJ / welfare state effects on dating market. Passport bro movement. How to raise daughters differently. Final questions before Candace departs at ~1:47.

Trans dating, gender identity, what is a woman

Would you date a trans person? Is it gay to date a trans woman? What defines 'woman'? Debate between Candace (binary), Pixie (spectrum), Aelia, Tara. Michigan misgendering felony bill discussed.

Olivia Bentley: sex work details and intimacy coaching

Olivia describes muscle worship Dom sessions, Bunny Ranch career, client volume (thousands). Panel questions on sleeping with unattractive clients, repeat clients, $100k client.

Brian's views on marriage and prenups

Tara asks Brian about Andrew Tate changing his mind on marriage. Brian explains opposition: divorce financial risk, alimony, prenups not ironclad (Kevin Costner example). Panel debate on whether picking right partner mitigates risk.

Supply and demand of sex work / men's role

Whether men create demand for sex work. Aelia argues men could end it via solidarity but won't. Debate on parasocial appeal of OnlyFans vs. free porn.

Partner type preferences round

Brian guesses each guest's ideal male type. Aelia: gentle gamer/nerdy. Essie: tatted, emotionally unavailable (reformed). Pixie: hipster/emo/intellectual. Lily: reformed frat boys. Madison: Cowboys/nice white guys with curly hair. Brian's type discussed: short, light eyes, alternative/colored hair.

Body count round

Brian asks each guest their body count. Lexi: <10 civilian; Aelia: stopped counting at ~5; Essie: 6; Tara: declined (parents watching, answered in prior episodes); Pixie: declined; Madison: declined; Lily: not captured. Olivia: thousands (working).

Transcript

Page 2 of 5

Brian Atlasmore uh sex therapist Olivia Bentley wait wait takes a Hands-On approach with her clients by Sleeping with them I've saved marriages the Boise Idaho native told Kennedy news calling her life her

Brian Atlaswork lifechanging I get physically involved with the majority of the people I see I think that's part of the appeal the veteran sex worker who spent 15 years in the industry claims that women have asked her to demonstrate sex acts on their husbands while some wives grant

Brian Atlastheir eager hubbies a hall pass to pay Bentley a visit um Good Times yeah is that pretty

Brian Atlasaccurate I mean so you so you save marriages by having sex with the husband I think the the tablets went a little crazy the whole you know but New York

Olivia BentleyPost is known to uh you okay uh they really you know went wild with it but um I do help a lot of couples that come in um one right now is asking me to to lend

Olivia Bentleya hand and he's more of a beta and she'd like him to be more of an alpha and she wants me to work with him on on being more just outwardly in control and aggressive in the bedroom things like

Olivia Bentleythat um there's there's a lot of different psychological needs and reasons why people would want to come and work with professional sex worker sure uh Candace it sounded like seemed like maybe you had something I think

Candace Owensit's the most outrageous thing I've ever heard it it it's so in the realm of like dragons and my mythical creatures that it's mythological creatures that it's

Candace Owenshard to respond to the idea that she's saving marriages um it's just there you're in disbelief I'm actually in utter disbelief that she is

Olivia Bentleysaving marriages I here's another example sure so like and this has been there's multiple um clients that do this where the wife will not have sex anymore she went and said look I um you know

Olivia Bentleyduring the when they were courting each other she was down for sex she was a sexual person she was all about it then let's fast forward they're married we're

Olivia Bentleymarried now contract solidified I don't want to have sex anymore ew oral sex is gross oh that's demeaning if you're asking me to do that so you're not saving marriages you're helping people

Candace Owensto keep up a farce that they are in a marriage because the very moment that you let someone else into your marriage is no longer a marriage no and women women turned around and said I will allow you to see a professional not in a

Leximarriage that's the point some their wies are like dying from cancer and this that and the other and if I'm dying fromc sleep with somebody swe to

Brian AtlasGod at time hold on just one at a time please go um Kansas were you I just would like to make the point that at the very moment that you loan your spouse out especially if you're dying of cancer

Candace Owensso they can get you know get off you're no longer in a marriage so it's just a farce it's like when you it's a comical you're pretending for people that you're in a marriage that you're in a loving relationship that's not what a marriage is so to say that I help marriages no

Candace Owensyou help destroy marriages and they can go out and say that we're still married because what we've done is we've essentially said you take care of this aspect of the marriage it's like saying you raise the kids you have sex with him this isn't a marriage it's it's the

Candace Owenswhole thing is fake right what do you think that they should do what do you think that they they should work on their marriage together the union between a husband and a wife should work on their marriage together to fix it you don't bring out an outside person to

Lexisleep with your husband or your wife she saying I'm not down for sex then might be down for div I want to Outsource the sex I want to die from cancer and she wanted him and she allowed him to do

Candace Owensthat because he needed to get off some way or she while he was while she was dying of cancer one of the last things on her mind was real life this is a real this is a real life uh yeah this was a

Candace Owensreal I'm asking you is that what he told you yeah that his wife as dying of cancer wanted him to come have sex with you not with me one of like this is from what I've heard yes somebody told you that that this that as a dying

Candace Owenswish my my dying wife said please go have sex with a prostitute I'm just going to call [ __ ] on that altogether I just don't you're dying of cancer going through L people will literally bring their guys

Essiehere please bring them on the podcast I just want to say go ABD scenario I've ever heard in my life a lot of crazy [ __ ] marriage counseling where they can take you through Sex Therapy where you don't have to sleep with somebody else

Essieif it's about a woman not wanting to have sex anymore what's the underlying reason are her hormones messed up so she's not wanting to be sexually active is there not enough foreplay when they're having sex like there's other avenues you can take for Sex Therapy

Candace Owensnormal couples counselors real couples counseling where you try to solve the problem and you release it and you don't just Source it out to a prostitute go ahead the cancer thing is crazy the

Aeliacancer thing is crazy but but outside of that I don't think that it's up to any of us what constitutes a marriage because every relationship is different

Brian Atlasif a husband okay but meaning Rel wait hold on is that a cross necklace constitute like what you okay really quick not everybody's Rel we're talking about religion really quick okay you

Brian Atlashave a cross necklace but then your shirt says Made In Hell you I'm a little confused can you I mean I'm little confused the stone is red so it matched you know why

Candace Owensare you wearing a cross on your neck color coordinating with your neck because I don't see a cross as religious so okay you don't see a marriage as religious the words have meaning this is why it's like people we're at a stage people are like what is a woman because they just go well we're going to call it a marriage but we're going to sleep with

Candace Owensother people we're going to bring in prostitutes we're going to Outsource raising the kids where we're never going to have kids you're calling it a family it's not a family and this is what it is they just the words have no meaning right I'm wearing the cross why I don't know I don't I don't think of it as

Candace Owensreligious okay well Jesus Christ died on the cross you think that that's what you think think so why are you wearing the the design is C I grew up Catholic I was religious and

AeliaI'm not anymore I don't have to believe in what you believe and I can say that if some I didn't say you had to believe I asked you a question I said why are you wearing the cross okay and you're saying that the relig the religious aspect of marriage is the only thing that matters it's not because people don't follow what you believe okay I

Candace Owensasked you why you're wearing the cross and you said because you thought it was cute yeah I'm glad we got an answer she's wearing the cross around her neck because she thinks it's cute I do I'm not religious also wear like a star of David it's cute like if it was cute

Tarawould you wear it I'm that because I wonder like my guess is that you would think that maybe you wouldn't wear a star of David because you're like oh this is maybe like disrespectful to people who are are

Brian Atlasyou making the argu maybe I mean no I'm I'm I'm just very good question I'm just saying devil's advocate here secular argument you someone might just say that the cross is just maybe maybe it's more

Candace Owensaesthetically pleasing pleasing even for an atheist I don't know sure but lias are all about like having resp like wondering if you think ask would you wear a Yama are very are you

Aeliatalking different from the yamaka I'm just I mean I was raised Catholic and I that's just not something I if you thought it was cute no I wouldn't I mean a yamaka is completely different than a cross that's been adapted can buy a

Pixiecross necklace anywhere there they're symbols of a Rel arent the argument of why it's different basically would come down to like how Catholicism has been practiced versus Judaism in the sense that like Catholics did use the cross symbol tried to imp place like an

Pixieindigenous populations tried to spread it as much as possible and that's why in modern day a lot of people think that's like more okay because it was meant to be popularized it was meant to be a symbol that the masses should look up to

Lexiand should see in general versus Jewish symbols okay I would argue didn't go through that I think we're kind of derailing a little bit you wanted to come in go ahead yes so back to the

Lexiinteresting brothel stories I wanted to say uh we do actually have men coming in with their parents yeah this actually

Lexihappened wait so I had a time where a guy came in with both his parents all the way from England to come

Brian Atlasto the Mustang Ranch because he wanted to lose his virginity wait is this really where we left off I'm not I'm just not following and his parents

Lexirelationship for him to have sex with legal prostitutes I want your stance on that because what's your stance on that and

Olivia Bentleyif I may and wait can I just say that for me I enjoyed the experience call sex workers not prostitutes said she said prostitute yeah because they keep it's because they

Brian Atlaskeep you said PR prostitutes a little bit more question is it like a is she said that at the beginning of the show legal prute she said legal prostitute is I don't want to offend anybody as prostituted like a off it's old school

Olivia Bentleyit's still on the books like on Nevada's books but like the the Hipp hipper way to say it is sex worker but here's the thing with sex workers personally me you

Brian Atlascan call me illegal prostitute yeah I got you um but the the thing with the term sex worker is that is such a broad it includes strippers it includes women

Brian Atlaswho take uh lingerie photos who aren't naked um wait question steuart is staris okay because you're a flight attendant so I'm just curious It's not the term that we would you be offended if someone

Pixiereferred you as a steart you get any older older older people do all the time doesn't doesn't bother you okay all right just just want to make sure since we're yeah it's not a big deal earlier it was like talked about like how you

Pixieknow sleeping or letting your husband or wife sleep with someone else is like irresponsible it's not a marriage anymore like I'd be kind of curious of what you believe of responsible marriage is like or I understand that you have a religious view on marriage but when I

Pixiethink about a marriage I think like I could see somebody saying they're married if it's like completely romantic like you're not allowed to do romance with anyone else like basically what does responsible marriage mean to you marriage is not just a contract like it

Candace Owensit wasn't just like the government came up with the contract people to get married you know the the history of marriage you can't separate that from the church the problem is people are trying to make things cool and trying to update and make them modern and now people are saying you can have a polygamous marriage and you can bring in

Candace Owensother people on the outside marriage what's the point of getting married literally I'd like to ask the question if you think that you can if if if you want to marry somebody and then Outsource the sex you know Outsource the

Candace Owensresponsibility Outsource what the labor of love is actually supposed to be about why not just stay single so you wouldn't do a threesome with your husband absolutely not because he's my husband do you believe even have to ask that to

Candace Owensget the I mean there's married couples that want to have three sons and some of these ladies are byous should jump into those Reddit threads because every single time that marriage ends in divorce there's so many Reddit threads

Candace Owensno they don't and a l of years there not do you believe atheists can get married I think atheists get married because they want a tax break I don't see the point in an atheist getting married why don't you

Candace Owensjust live with your partner okay what whoever it is that you're dating you're at the stage you said I don't know if you live with your boyfriend or whatever it is why take the next leap if you're wearing crosses for fun and you know actually asking the

Candace Owensquestion I mean because then I would just be pledging the fact that I would want to be with them forever you can just be with them forever so why what is it that you crave that when you when you want to get married what's that next step for you what does it mean what's the difference between dating and

Candace Owensmarriage because it's a commitment it's dating not a commitment it's a commitment but it's saying next step solidifying it okay solidifying what because if you're solidifying a bond between two people that love each other okay but but what is solidified if you

Candace Owenscan then jump into that next commitment which is the exact same as dating and you can sleep with other people people and you can put topless photos on the internet what are you getting married for pictures on Instagrams to say you did it I mean I'm not sleeping with other people what's the difference for

Aeliayou between dating and marriage I just told you it's a bond between two people you're solidifying that by law you're literally making it known I want to be with this person forever it isn't just a simple breakup oh I can go and do whatever the [ __ ] I want and leave it's a partnership it's a bond it's forever

Candace Owensbut there's no difference between dating and marriage other than the idea in your head that it's a bond because you're saying also but it's not an idea in my head it's on paper okay it's the paper that's and that was but it's not a but I'm saying it's not a tax break it's a

Candace Owenslegal thing connecting to somebody for the rest of my life yeah well I think for people that are that think about marriage and don't think about a cross as something funsy to wear it's not a piece of paper um you know it it is a

Candace Owensunion between a man and a woman a sacred Union that should be protected from external forces um definitely not something that you open up you how I would feel disgusting if my husband ever came to me and said I want you to sleep

Candace Owenswith another man or sleep with another woman so that I can fill my sexual fetish I mean it's it's it's it's an utter perversion of what it means to be married and it will lead to divorces people that have this perspective will

Candace Owensand I'm not saying that if you don't do it you won't get divorced 100% but I do want to say that there is probably a reason that a lot of sex workers

Lexistruggle to find people that want to marry them well can I say a lot of the perversion that comes if you are not going to be acceptant with your partner if he comes to you and is like hey uh I

Lexireally like getting pegged I want you to Peg me and you're like ew that's so disgusting like I would never do that you want me to eat your ass I would never do that well then okay what are

Lexiyou going to do divorce him or what are you going to do realistically I'm asking you I'm ask hold on I really want to I want to know what are you going to do that's your husband he's like hey babe I think one of the things about marriage

Candace Owensthat's really beautiful is I know what my my husband before we got married I think I I know who he is but things change and maybe he wants to start exploring he wants to start doing what uh so say so he wants to start exploring

Lexiand he's like oh my gosh maybe I do want you to like eat eat my ass and I I kind of and I kind of want you to Peg me like I'm kind of I kind of want anal penetration from you cuz you're my wife and you're so beautiful and hot and

Lexiwe're married and we have kids together and I'm and I'm feeling a little bit kinky and I with you since we have this special marriage and bond how would you feel if we could just try this out just this one time babe please I think it would probably indicate to me that my

Candace Owenshusband was involved in some perverse World whether it was through pornography that something else was happening on the side because these aren't normal things that people just think of when they wake up i' really like a strap on dildo so

Candace Owenswhat's your next move what's the ultimat he's going to divorce me if I don't him crazy uh I would think that that individual would probably need therapy and not the kind that you give okay and

Candace Owensbut but you're going to stay with you don't immediately divorce marriage is about working through issues and working through problems you don't immediately divorce them and this gets back to what she was saying about if your husband if suddenly a woman doesn't want to have sex which would be another huge issue in

Lexia relationship I would hope that my husband wouldn't instantly divorce me but I would hope that they would take some guys are terrified of that and some guys don't even feel like they can open up to their wives about that about that stuff sounds like they need

Candace Owenstherapy got to work on your marriage the thing is is that they'll come to us talking to us about that you know what I mean so it's just like and I think that that's unhealthy and I think

Candace Owensthat you know the fact that sex workers exist as this what you believe to be a solution when in fact that's a detriment because you're getting in the way of the wife and the husband being able to communicate um and so I would much

Candace Owensrather my husband go if there was an issue and your wife's not having sex I'd rather him go talk to a priest I'd rather him go talk to another male a male sit down and talk about hey man you should talk to her about this i' rather

Candace Owenslet me finish my statement I'd rather him what do you mean Bros talking to each other about things that's a normal i' rather if I have an issue in my it's pretty normal I'd rather go talk to my sisters about things that are going on marriage there's a lot of steps you can

Candace Owenstake before you talk to a prostitute about your marriage I just maybe I'm crazy maybe I live in such a crazy I'm saying what man is turn on Taylor Swift song Cy a little bit in my room I don't know there's a lot I would turn to

Candace OwensTaylor Swift before I would go to prostitute about my marriage and I know but you're not a male so I'm just saying like men can talk to other what are you talking about there's all of these podcasts of men talking you know talking to men and and being inspirational and

Candace Owenstalking about porn addiction and talking about the things that are are are corrupting men's Minds that's out there and those are those are I would much rather my husband listen to those men and look for guidance whether it's in the church whether it's on a podcast

Candace Owenswhether it's a spiritual leader than to turn to a prostitute in a brothel I hear you so there's a lot of steps that you can take from we're having an issue in our marriage to my husband's at a brothel lay next to a prostitute talking about

Brian Atlasissues let me just step in really quick I do think though I I would like to redirect the conversation because I do think it's probably a very small portion

Brian Atlasof people who are married are seeking to bring in a prostitute to for the husband it just seems like such a small kind of I don't know what's up

Lexireally quick uh statistically married men are actually the highest number of clientele for prostitutes yes and that's why I'm saying please listen for me I'm literally telling you guys males come to us and say all this stuff which is like

Candace Owensthey're first scared of you guys because how you might react two they feel like they can't be honest and open with you guys that's why they result in coming to places like that just so you guys know that statistic doesn't mean that the majority of married men go to prostitute

Candace Owensso I didn't say that no know I'm just letting her know cuz she said like yes like it was if it was a debunk I think what he saying that the majority of married mening to prostitutes so they might small conent and they might be

Taramajority married that's what I'm saying yeah I get that I think a good reason to have um I guess to on that point of like something was brought up earlier about like what is like a responsible marriage

Tarato you so part of being a good partner as like a wife or girlfriend to whoever you're with is making them feel comfortable telling you anything especially if it's something that they

Tarathink is serious enough to consider leaving like their relationship with you for like if it's serious enough that they would consider divorcing you if they can't explore the sexual fantasy or

Taraanything like that I I think that's just a part of being good on the um I I I agree with what you're saying here that they um that these men don't feel comfortable that they could tell their

Tarawives and I guess that's just a part of being not that it's justifiable that you as a wife you should give into any sexual fetish your partner brings to you it's whatever you're comfortable with wherever your boundaries are but um I

Taraguess that's a part of that continuous conversation with them so they always feel comfortable bringing up anything to you as a friend as like confid and knowing they're not going to be judged they'll be a partner with you andig I do have to I do have to move on so we have

Brian Atlasa couple chats here I want to try to get through we have beaten cheeks Candace Owens do not hold back on these Libs wipe the floor with your intelligence congrats on being preo again be easy with my Essie though she's about to get

Essieretired out soon okay first of all we I have beef with beaten cheeks because he asked me on a date and then posted a photo with another girl on Twitter oh so are you guys are you guys loyal I mean

Essiehe asked you on a date and you guys committed to you're committed to beats and Chiefs with his ridiculous together so he's posting photos with another woman right after ask breaking my heart he breaking commit

Brian Atlasthis act of infidelity on Nessie over here who you've never met yet okay we have Frankie k um hey thank you man you know what's funny about Beyonce she encourages Single Ladies to have fun supports promiscuous behavior in her music and perpetuates the I don't need a

Brian Atlasman mentality and when she's done recording she goes home to her husband and her children who by the way I did Jay-Z cheated right I okay all right all right good good point Frankie thank you

Brian Atlasman we have kened J Candace the honey badger Queen is that your nickname I don't know or did you just get bestowed with I just got bestowed uh thank you for your voice and being on this wacky space is a cultural Battlefield that

Brian Atlassomehow pushes Beyond IDE ideological bubbles when are Jeremy and Ben going to make Brian an offer seriously think about it I'll bring it to them got a lot to bring to them after yes the Tiger King

Brian Atlasyeah Tiger King and mat Walsh there you go all right we have uh travel trades here oh wait I'll just read hi Brian long time no see hopefully I can come on once I'm back from Kuwait hi Candace

Brian Atlasthanks for being a voice when I felt odd having conversation felt odd having conservative behaviors excuse me your bravery has helped countless people become comfortable with being conservative thank you that's so sweet

Brian Atlasthank you we have travel trades people in this day and time are exceedingly hauny and refuse to pursue the ab abolition or even suppression of ego in their everyday lives people appeal to uh people appeal their own wants needs

Brian Atlasopinions ideas Etc above all else instead of appealing to something greater from travel trades hey thank you appreciate it and then lastly we have so g i that's probably not I don't know

Brian Atlaspanel please listen to everything that candas says you have a rare opportunity to see what a high value woman is and learn from her as she's intelligent respected and accomplished you can't

Brian Atlasjustify and make excuses for your Lifestyles anybody got a response to that one thank you oh okay there you go all

Olivia Bentleyright I like my lifestyle I love my lifestyle change it at any time these being in this industry you don't run out of opportunities men are coming all the

Brian Atlastime if I wanted to settle down with one of them I think I think that could have happened wait when you say men are coming to you all the time as clients right yeah and you said if you wanted to

Brian Atlassettle down with any of them you could but do you find The Men Who come to you attractive because I mean I've heard from a lot of women who do only fans or

Brian Atlaseven women who uh are exotic dancers strippers whatever um and women who do porn or even adult content that the men that typically like are the fans or consume the content or come and see you

Brian Atlasyour clients a lot of these women don't view these men like just by virtue of them coming to you or by virtue of them subscribing to your off like that in and of itself makes them not a prospect for

Olivia Bentleyany like longterm relationship these are normal guys and some of them are hot so I'm a fitness competitor all right I'm 46 years old I figured I was going to age out of the industry what has happened mils are all all the all the

Olivia Bentleything they're the cat's pajamas right now so I'm getting a ton mil well I'm getting a lot of youngans the Young

Olivia BentleyThe Young The Young Young gentlemen tons of them and and then you know Fitness competitors judges that that judge in the circuit so then they'll say Hey you

Brian Atlasknow you're looking good or tighten this up so there's a lot of opportunities to meet a lot of individuals now to meet them though but I mean when it comes date them and when it comes to long-term

Olivia Bentleycommitment I mean I think they want well they I agree what I what I encounter um and something with Candace said is these guys they are prideful so once they

Olivia Bentleystart dating you they do uh in my experience they do want you to maybe consider settling down now I've done real estate I was vice president of business growth at an active um wealth

Olivia Bentleymanagement company during coid I have a master's degree I can do different things would you have a Masters in Education I got straight A yeah so and I taught for a while so I come in and out

Olivia BentleyI'll go into white colored work and then I'll go back into the industry because it's fun for me I enjoy it and and it is good money and it's an adventure I enjoy going out with these guys being a travel

Candace Owenscompanion and getting to go on vacations no I just wanted to ask you as a the man sitting at this table are you attracted to their Lifestyles do you think men are

Lexiattracted to their Lifestyles uh I'm just curious about your opinion just to hear a a male care well that's so rude here asked you your opinion about everything I said like good thing I don't care for what an

Candace Owensother male has to say about my industry though but he's been asking you questions about what you think about men he been asking you questions about your life and the first thing when I ask one question say I care I feel person I'm

Candace Owensvery hurt I want to know but why interrupt that like when he asked you a question what if someone said I don't care what she says you know I think that's just a little rude I'm saying like because everybody's always out I see your faces that you're giving

Candace Owensher and stuff like that and I it's funny I just saying like I'm letting her talk but I just wanted to hear his opinion on it so I just was that like a little bit of insecurity to just jump and say I don't care because can I coach Candice from the daily wire I it was just a

Candace Owenslittle rude talk much we've all been letting people talk with different perspectives so I just thought it was like suddenly he hasn't even said anything and you've already di few times where what

Candace Owenscondescending well in any case in any case I just want to hear a male voice like we all talking I'm trying to let Brian continue and you're you're still talking okay little bit of insecurity

Brian Atlascoming out over there I'm not sure where it's coming from but go on go ahead Brian oh do I have your permission is it okay is it okay okay okay cool cool um so sorry can you just repeat the question one more time yeah I was just

Candace Owenssaying like it's interesting because we're all women and we're giving different perspectives and the female perspective on this topic when you hear what she just said about sex work and how she feels about sex work or you hear

Candace Owenswhat she's saying or you hear what she's saying what is your honest opinion as a man because what we're trying to get to I think the nucleus of is you know high value women high value men what creates

Brian Atlasthat how men respond to that and we have the opportunity to hear a man I don't know I mean I personally would not date a woman who is involved in sex work in any of its various

Brian Atlasmanifestations um just I mean it's kind of there's I I'm I'm not really like a hater if people want to do that sort of thing when on a

Brian Atlassocietal level I don't know if it's uh you know the best thing but uh I'm kind of like hey whatever go do your thing but as far as my own personal preferences standards and boundaries

Candace Owenswhen it comes to a relationship uh I don't foresee myself wanting to uh get involved with someone who does sex work uh and why do you think that I think most men would agree

Candace Owenswith you uh I think and I I think that makes sense to me but why is that because I think it's just interesting to hear our perspective that's all sure I mean

Brian Atlaswell kind of going back to there being different levels to it so I mean if she's a prostitute or was a prostitute I

Brian Atlasmean it's kind I feel like that's just common sense like I wouldn't no offense I just wouldn't date a woman who's a prostitute I'm not offended like I said and probably they wouldn't want to date

Brian Atlasme I don't know it's fine it's cool but yeah I wouldn't I uh no if you're because I would want uh monogamy I'd want loyalty and even though it's for

Brian Atlasfor work and they're just doing it for money um my view of sex is not I don't think you can well people do but I don't think you ought to detach intimacy from

Brian Atlassex and people who engage in a lot of casual sex or people who do it for work you've essentially just detached intimacy from sex so um definitely not a

Taraprostitute um I mean I not a stripper not a only fans no I feel like that was just like an unnecessarily long way to answer like No No's going to want to

Lexidate a hooker I don't it's like I don't think it's like that yeah and I said I don't care because it's like and you're like no don't take offense like I'm not going to take offense to something I don't care about that's why I'm like no just a preempt and you stated you were

Lexilike and and you looked at me and you said and don't take offense like baby I'm not a offended by any means you know what I mean okay I'm not looking for relationship right now I'm not

Pixietrying to offend you she was just asking me liter just asking question yeah yeah earlier I was like talked about like promiscuity like I'm assuming you guys believe like promiscuity is like bad or shouldn't be encouraged in society I was wondering if what specific factors do

Pixieyou think encourage it most do you believe it's like media do you think like birth control has anything to do with it do you believe like I I want to know what your top factors of promiscuity are what you believe it is yeah so I would say number one

Candace Owenscontributor is is culture and the education system so I remember when I was left leaning a lot of my ideas came from the school system and just what you're talking about Planned Parenthood in the classroom that effort began in the 70s the majority of high schoolers

Candace Owenswere graduating with their virigin day intact in the 70s before they started um teaching health class which was teaching people that everybody's doing it and actually they weren't and within one decade it completely flipped and the

Candace Owensmajority of teens were now graduating having lost their virginity um so we seated a lot of that to the education system which when when parents had more control over their children and what was happening in the classroom was based on

Candace Owensarithmetic and not cultural issues and focusing on engineering children to think that sex is this positive um it you know it's you just do it everybody's doing it doesn't matter if you have multiple partners you combine that with

Candace Owensfeminism in the classroom I I was forced in college to take a a feminism 101 course and they kind of made you think that yeah beat and cheeks donated

TTS/Donations$200 Candace please tell these women their past promiscuous matters to be with a decent guy that will not be beta males SC that was just a friend we still

Brian Atlason relax just answer my text and we good I promise equals D all right thank you Chiefs um was there a question here for canas or matter wait can I do you mind if I

Pixiepush back a little bit on the education system comment sure okay cuz at least from the things that I've read and I've studied it seems like that is true but in a very particular context and that very particular context was like

Pixiebasically abstinence only education which I don't know about you guys but makes complete sense to me because if you tell teenagers like don't do this thing this thing is like super you know like don't do it um it feels super good but you're not supposed to do it or

Pixiewhatever if you phrase it that way then teenagers are going to go out and do it cuz like at least everything that I've seen recently has been talking about how um if you talk about proper sex ed and people who have more access to contraceptives as well as well as better

Pixiesexed tend to have like a lower body count than people who are like in like lower education less sexed less access to contraception so I was just wondering like your thoughts on that I'm I'm telling you it's not true factually in the 70s before they got planned

Candace Owensparenthood went in the classroom and started funding initiatives um and they started teaching sex education there used to know there used to not be sex education in school and the the way that they got it into the classroom in the 70s was by saying you know it's better to teach them which is what you're

Candace Owenssaying because then they'll be more responsible it actually within one decade it flipped the majority of high schoolers were graduating with their virginity before there was sex education and then when they put sex education in the classroom the majority of them within 10 years were were not graduating

Pixiewith her virginity so it actually sexualized children my understanding but the reason why was because the first manifestations of sex education was abstinence only and it was working is what I'm saying to you oh okay it was

Candace Owensworking so they abstinence used to be you know considered and I'm not at all trying to I'm just telling you what the facts are here um like when people when abstinence was the cultural simulation when everyone said you should be

Candace Owensabstinent you should not get you should not have sex before marriage that idea was permeated throughout culture it was reflected in culture there were no sex ads there weren't people naked on the internet and people lived their lives it was considered a big thing you know to

Candace Owenslose your virginity you were actually considered someone that maybe a guy wouldn't want to marry because you lost your virginity that was that was the cultural understanding like you know in the ' 50s and the' 60s and then in the' 70s you had this fourth wave of feminism

Candace Owensthat reared its ugly head and started associating sexual um promiscuity to freedom and things completely flipped again I'm just giving you a historical analysis of what happened in the classroom yeah without commentary it's

Pixieokay if you sorry can I'll just finish make it quick if you can yeah I I'd be interested to see like where exactly you're getting that from if like later you can tell me or whatever Thomas Soul inside the education system and he has all of the sources listed in the back of

Candace Owensthe book okay because at least in modern day do you think that any of that has flipped or no no think we've become you know there was to use a term I was I was actually talking about this yesterday on a podcast I thought it was pretty brilliant but Paul Joseph Watson I love

Candace Owenshis YouTube stuff and he started talking about H flation which is like that is a that's a thing actually hilarious which is's saying that men used to have to do a lot less and get a very high value women he's like so think about your

Candace Owensgrandparents and your grandmother she was a high value woman she you know she raised the kids she was conservative she was beautiful all of these things and and now we live in this moment where everyone 's kind of a hoe and you have to work harder to get a woman that

Candace Owensdoesn't have any self-respect or any value and I just thought it was a really interesting video it was obviously funny um but he was saying something and we live in we live in fation now where everybody in their own capacity is selling their selling their bodies and

Candace Owensunfortunately this these are the options that men have now I'm not saying it's stunning to me that women talk about what men need to be and what men need to be but I think just kind of the complete disintegration of when I look at you

Candace Owensknow what my grandfa my grandmother looked like picture she passed in 2013 and just how classy and how beautiful and how much I wanted to be like her and now I look at you know women today and I just think man I I feel bad for guys

Candace Owensthat you know that the pool's getting smaller but also it's really positive for women that are conservative and you know who uh it it means that you're part of you know maybe a smaller pool of individuals I see it a lot more in the

Candace OwensSouth and that men should aspire to pursue those women absolutely um to raise their families and you know to raise their kids do do you coign on the the H flation oh I believe yeah the women I today are

Candace Owensvery low value and so it's funny because the simulation is like men ain't [ __ ] is kind of the thing everybody's saying don't need a man and it's funny that someone brought up Beyonce because she's living the exact opposite of what she's singing she's just making money because

Candace Owensshe's knows how to make money in a whole flary environment you know smart woman she's like I'm just going to pretend to be a hoe but then actually privately I'm going to be like super hold on um you

Essiewanted to come in then you please if you can try to keep it brief cuz I need to get chat oh I was just going to say that my version of sex educ or what my sex education was literally them showing us

Essiea birthing photo or video sorry yeah in fourth grade that terrified me and I was like actually I don't think I'm going to have sex for a long time I think I'm Goode go ahead and like speaking of H

Lexiflation I mean we're common we're always trending apparently right because ho because without us hoes you wouldn't

Lexihave like that many views to be watching right you have ho come on the podcast to talk about our I'm not knocking ho I don't want to be a I want to I'm saying you have hoes and when I say you have H

Lexicoming on the podcast you you know you're a ho you a literal hoe or like more of the colloquial Brian's dream you have hoes Brian so you sit here and you want to bash sex workers but you know we

Essiecome on here bash anybody I don't think anybody has bash she's bringing you on here and giving you a platform to speak so I think that if he was going to be bashing you he wouldn't even allow

Lexianybody on the wait what do you mean making making making what making a SE like I'm not making anybody seem any sort of no I'm just talking about a video trending we're a trending topic so

Candace Owensit's relevant to speak on because it's interesting it's fascinating I am fascinated by ho I'll say it I'm absolutely fascinated by the way the ho mind works the way the ho Hive works I'm

Candace Owensfascinated I cover it on my show you are correct it is it is trending when Emma gets up and does a video and says something like you know I'm it's Chic to be divorced before you're 30 it is absolutely fascinating to see how

Candace Owenssomeone's mind can be so warped you know in the same way that I think it's it's fascinating When anybody does anything crazy or says anything crazy and I cover it on my podcast you know I am not knocking it at all I just tell people

Candace Owenswhat the facts are you can choose this lifestyle and here is where you are 99.9% likely to lead into in your life right you are probably not destined for marriage you're not probably not destined for a stable relationship men

Candace Owensare going to not want this long term you can say it a thousand times you can have a thousand cultural examples and women's still got to go out there and be hoos you know because they're about they money and about a cardi B song or whatever it is so yes I think it is

Candace Owensfascinating um and it it is why I wanted to you know talk this is why I talk about my podcast and why I'm very interested to talk to you guys I hope you guys feel that I've been respectful and listening to you know your Lifestyles even though it's so different from mine and so I appreciate Brian for

Brian Atlashosting well thank you for coming Candace uh let's see I have uh couple chats here and then I have one more question and then I think Candice will have to leave here in a moment moment we have uh yant oh okay Modern Life dating

TTS/Donationsdonated $199 hey Candace thank you for being a voice of Common Sense and a good representation of being a decent woman in today's modern perverse time what are

Brian Atlasyour thoughts on the passport bro movement of men leaving America for better wives abroad hey John thank you very much for the uh TTS um maybe a brief little snippet on this if you can

Candace Owensyes yeah I I think that you can find higher quality women in other places I Married an Englishman I'm I think America are you a passport not a bro but sis a passport

Candace Owenssis passport sis there you go uh yeah I think that America has really lowered the cultural standards for women more than any you don't see this kind of even this the way women dress in America

Candace Owenscompared to England fascinates me and so yeah I I think find a wife do what you got to do but also don't discount the South because there are so many good women in the south in America come to

Brian AtlasTennessee they're wonderful I have heard something kind of interesting on this is that uh you have a lot of men in the west a lot of men in the US going overseas to try to find perhaps a wife

Brian Atlaswho's a bit more feminine or you know whatever they're not finding here in the in the west but you don't hear of men

Brian Atlasfrom other countries in droves coming to the US to find a wife here you don't really hear that so um all right we have

Brian Atlasyant yant s simonis Candace I know you're listening to these women with the realization that this country is doomed how will you help your son navigate the

Candace Owensswamp before you right now and if we can just try to be I moved to the South as soon as I got pregnant the first time I moved where my values aligned and my son will be just fine perfect we have a

Brian Atlasgoodest boy one of them is too young to remember the movie Pretty Woman imagine a guy just wanting a better life for the both of you and maybe even a family a again the world is effed hey good Us boy thank you uh yavon Candice do you think

Candace OwensLynden B Johnson has anything to do with the fact that these women that have and only fans are actually able to find a relationship with a man I don't know how we correlated Lyndon B Johnson to only fans account LBJ di are you familiar

Brian Atlaswith anything with LBJ enti yant St simonis can Candice what specific steps will you take to ensure that your daughter does not become one of the women sitting at the

Candace Owenspanel right now it would just be impossible in my household we keep her away from this kind of secular living keeping them away from tablets don't letting them not letting them be raised on Instagram and social media and Tik

Candace OwensTok making sure that they have family values instilled in them that they know what the cross represents um and that you know they are churchgoing children and it's all about who you hang out with you be you will become the average of

Candace Owensthe people you spend your most time with and I you know I appreciate the time here but I would definitely would say that you know I want my kids to be in a different climate all right we have the cast man 777 marriage must be a closed

Brian Atlasand permanent relationship between two people for the purpose of raising children without this definition marriage just becomes dating with a contract sending your husband to a sex

Brian Atlastherapist for sex is just prostitution with a loophole hey the castman 777 thank you very much for your comment there uh final question here before uh

Brian AtlasKansas has to take off uh so um would any of you date a trans person yes yes

Essieyeah I feel like if I say no I'm going to get a lot of backlash I think my personal preference I would say no okay that's fine no no no hell well you're

Brian Atlasmarried um me me personally I I I would not um my question to you guys is would any of you object to a man not wanting

Pixieto date a transgender woman I think everybody has their own personal preferences and if there's one thing you're allowed to be super picky on it's who you date like you know I think

Aeliathat's the only thing that you can 100% have free reign on you can date will you decide any I would completely agree with her like we talked about before I think that everyone should have boundaries you know and as long as that person's

Aeliaupfront and honest and they can have like a adult conversation that isn't rooted in hatred I don't think there's anything wrong with preferring somebody that isn't trans okay I have a question so and we this has been like a thing

Brian Atlasthat's gone viral on this podcast before um and it's always seems to spark quite a debate so would you consider it to be gay for a

Brian Atlasman to date a trans woman yes for a man today no personally would would he would you categorize him as

Aeliastraight um probably yeah because what is it I'm sorry this is here technical I mean like I just if you don't want to answer that's fine go ahead if you don't want to answer that's

Brian Atlasfine go ahead I'm with Pixie I don't think that that makes gay at all SE I'm like I have no CL not to answer yeah okay um question I mean does your answer change based on the stage of transition

Brian Atlaslike what if this is before any transition has occurred at all but the person has come to the realization that they are transgender well I would assume that you have some

Pixielevel of like homosexual inclination if you're a man attracted to a person who looks and represents as a man you know like if you're saying pre-transition I would say like you're if you're attracted to those components of that

Pixieperson but pre-transition if you are transgender are you a woman pre-transition you're a woman who hasn't transitioned yet so you're presenting as a male until trans

Pixiewhat what if there hasn't been any bottom surgery what do you mean like there's still an appendage so you're saying they transitioned everything but their

Pixiebottom I they're maybe they're in the process of transitioning let's say that fine everything but the okay I feel like I'm kind of confused here so I'll just leave it in in these sent seems two

Candace Owenspeople that have penises I don't care how you feel on your inside I don't care if you dress and you wear a dress you wear a wig if you come together and you have sex you're gay and I think that is

Candace Owenshomosexual right so I know that people are trying it's it is compli so I understand why like trying to make it something El it's in your head what if you feel like a woman it's very simple

Candace Owensif you are a man and you are having sex with a man irrespective of how you feel or whether or not you've mutilated your body or you've chopped something off it doesn't make you not a man your man and

Pixietwo men coming together to have sex with their appendices intact obviously is homosexual sex so yeah I think um you know it's different if they're presenting completely different because at that point like you know you have men

Pixiewho say that they've been trapped or whatever and I'm like that person is straight they literally slept with someone who was like presenting as a woman look like a woman they couldn't tell like I wouldn't consider that gay um but at the end of the day like

Pixiehonestly I don't really care about people's sexual orientation that much I feel like this is like kind of a culture War issue and for some people culture War issues are important but I rather talk like policy about something I don't

Brian Atlasknow if that makes me boring here but well I'm not sure I'm totally following but I guess so what is a

Brian Atlaswoman I've answered this question before on the podcast here I can start with aalia did I say your name or I'm no you never do but it's okay okay go ahead so what is a woman I mean I think that gender is a spectrum I obviously know

Aeliathat you do not agree with me and a lot of the conservative people here won't agree with me but I guess it's just how you present and how you feel I mean I don't really again I don't like to structure things that way and like make it so black and white I think that people should represent themselves and

Aeliabe what they want to be and it's nobody else's business to be honest a female is somebody that has a vagina that's what it says in the book right okay which the Bible the healthed

Pixiebook is vagina gender and sex are two different things so okay you answered the question correctly so I don't want you to feel like you did you answered it wrong what is a woman a woman is this is so complex I'm it doesn't need to be it

Pixiedoesn't a woman is somebody who presents or acts as the social construct of woman and reason why I don't say biology is because whenever we look at biology the truth is before coming to this room I did not look at anybody's genitalia here

PixieI did not look at any of your chromosones I just assumed you guys were women because of how you dress and act so I think that maps on more to our reality of how we use the word

Essiewoman Essie this is so controversial um I'm very like a man and a woman man has a penis woman has a vagina biologically

Taraman and a woman I agree I think that it's like whatever biologically an yeah anatomically what you've got going on um I feel like what brings out my

Tarafeminine qualities the most is the thought of being a mother in the future so I guess I associate um being a woman with being a mother in all aspects of

Candace Owensthat um okay answer uh your gender decided before you're born when you're born and for the rest of your life I having a little boy the doctor knows that I know

Candace Owensthat because uh he's got a penis that is growing inside of my stomach right now which is kind of trippy to think about um if I get onto this table and I start meowing like a cat I don't suddenly become a biological cat because I

Candace Owenspresent like a cat and wear a tail and say meow meow that is probably means that I need to talk to a therapist not you not you um but yeah it's not that difficult

Candace Owensit doesn't need to be convoluted it doesn't need to be controversial um a woman to ENT to your question is an adult female adult human female it is an adult

Candace Owenshuman female and that is the answer to something that it's just shocking to me that every person knew every child every and then within just a couple of

Candace Owenscultural years everyone is so confused about you know water being a liquid it's very again I'm fascinated by it so I love to talk to people that are confused

Candace Owensby that but if you were born with a vagina you are a female and if you were born with a penis you are a male and if you had some rare thing happen which hardly ever happens but people will

Candace Owensalways talk about it where you're born with both both parts you might be interex hermaphrodite uh but generally speaking I think we know that that means that something genetically went wrong

Pixieand we are born either male or female pixie do you object to her definition yeah because I think um I understand where you're coming from but I think when it comes to day-to-day use of words they have to map on to our reality

Pixiesomewhat and the truth is like as I didn't check anyone's like biology or chromosomes before coming here you can say it's an act but the truth is that's it's an act that everybody plays into everybody looks at how a person looks

Pixielike and says oh they're a woman or male based off of that and you can say oh that person is putting on a disguise that doesn't change their real gender or anything but everybody acts that way so

Pixieto me it's like no like the word that Maps or the definition that Maps most onto reality onto our day-to-day usage is appearance-based uh Candice does have to uh take off here do you have a final

Candace Owensresponse to her yeah if you grow an afro and wear a wig and put you know a lot of black makeup on you're not a black woman you know so your appearance doesn't actually mean anything you are you're

Candace Owensyou're not black um and the same way that I'm not white so how we if we can trick someone you might be able to trick me I think right Richard doil did a really good job tricking people into believing that she was black for a long

Candace Owenstime uh by darkening her skin getting super tanned and wearing fake wigs but she wasn't actually a black woman so how you feel on the inside and how you present you might be able to trick people but that makes you a liar not a

Brian Atlaswoman so um yeah that's what I would say in closing yeah if you want you could direct your further comments to me what afterwards but um guys please be sure to check out Candace owens's documentary

Brian Atlasconvicting a murderer you guys will love it tomorrow it's not political I'm going to watch it tomorrow it'll be live on X live on X in the dailywire.com mhm okay yeah cool um yeah be sure to check that out guys well Candace thank you so much for coming thank you guys much for

Candace Owenshaving and honestly I really did appreciate talking to you guys thought it was fascinating I think everyone was super respectful so I I really appreciate it and you because you're so young I'm just going to say a prayer for you because I I do think I really do

Lexibelieve that in there there's just a different life for you and I'm just going to say a prayer for you tonight I just wanted to say that because I felt for me tonight for me cuz I don't know what that prayer entails I'm going to

Brian Atlassay it anyways yeah someday are you you're rejecting the prayer prayer is rejected okay I am rejecting your prayer the show goes on but Candace's is leaving guys give me just a sec to say

Brian Atlasgoodbye yo guys W's in the chat for Candace W's in the chat for Candace 07 is in the chat for Candace sorry let me I'll scoot over a little bit if I want to be a hoe I'll be uh guys give me just a sec while I say goodbye and then uh

Brian Atlaswe'll we'll continue with the stream imagine with one person day in and day out I'm sorry oh Madison's going to sit here I know it was

Kikikindes yes thank you for saying it yeah girl the [ __ ] I know the eyes going shout out to Air Force

Brian AtlasAmy shout out to Air Force are we live right now now we can actually guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever Air Force am guys twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow in

Brian Atlasthe prime sub twitch.tv do wait excuse me TW TW twatch TW twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub yo uh sauce thank you for the prime wait guys if you can

Brian Atlasbe quiet please if you guys can be quiet yo fuzzy thank for the guys guys please fuzzy thank for the tier one NPC thank for the prime DeVos thank for the prime uh scream thank you for the prime appreciate it guys twitch.tv/ whatever

Brian Atlasdrop us a follow drop us a prime sub uh big thank you to Candace Owens for coming and being on the show um yeah she had a heart out at uh 8:30 guys so uh

Brian AtlasMadison will take over this seat uh okay so where were we we're talking about race and gender you guys good with Kanas

Olivia Bentleyright you guys she is a little little back and forth it was good yeah it's pretty good I I disagree on some things but she she's very respectful very SM just a reminder just

Olivia Bentleywhen you speak if you can in the mic thank you very super smart lady um very very awesome I disagree on some things but it's just it's a matter of Lifestyle

Brian Atlasright it's good it good um let me see if I can get a couple chats in here we have question for the S workers from travel trades if the entirety of mankind

Brian Atlasadopted your ideologies on S marriage do you think your ideologies would be a net positive or net negative to the world uh we'll go around the table on that and guys uh actually go

Aeliaahead I I guess I don't understand like the question I don't either like would it be generally positive if everybody was sex positive I I guess is that the question yeah cuz I don't think we're

Olivia Bentleyadvoc I don't think we're saying like our ideology is that everybody should be a sex worker and have Lifestyles like us right if that's what is implying because I don't think I think that would be a net negative obviously I think it's for

Aeliaa specific type of person to be into into sex work or perform sex work I don't think that that's for everybody that would definitely be a net negative

Pixieif everyone wanted to be a sex worker okay I I age see I mean yeah I would I would agree with ailia pixie yeah I'm like kind of I kind

Brian Atlasof stuck from the last thing that was said I kind of want to respond back to it but oh to the Kansas thing yeah okay just pretend I'm a pregnant black woman well yeah what what what remember

Pixieyou're not what you feel inside Brian oh I mean the reason why the argument for like gender and race is so different is because like our conceptions of what where where a proper

Pixieclaim on gender and race is like radically different right so we treat race or culture as like a group identity right so to be black you have to be part like of a black parents have some sort

Pixieof like black history um be part of like a black community it's more of a thing that gets put on to you based on like what your general history is and how much of validity you have to claim women

Pixieeverybody has a claim to wom because everybody has a [ __ ] mom and everybody has been affected rules wait hold on but if you're black

Brian Atlasthat manifests itself in your skin color like your yeah but there's light there's people have you ever heard their term white passing no like albino no like black

Aeliapeople who try to make white they don't no no white passing is not trying to make yourself look black or make yourself look white look white because you're black you have a light

Pixieskin right you just are extremely light skin 100% like one of your parents must be white or maybe you just have what is it like one ancestor a long time ago that was white and then it just came out

Pixiein your dreams that's happened before so are you suddenly not black because you're white passing no but you were arguing that it like it it that the appearance is what makes you something I was yeah I'm argu I'm saying

Pixiethat there's a difference between race and sex for the or like there is a difference but yeah and for this reason the reason why it's seen is like so out Bish if you just suddenly claim to be a black person is because we considered

Pixiecultural identities be group identities based on like historical claims while gender everybody has a claim to gender because everybody's been affected to gender roles everyone has a claim to gender CU everybody's been affected by

Pixieit oh you have to be more masculine you have to be more feminine this is what a man means this is what a woman means everybody's been affected by it not everybody has been you know a descendant From Slavery wait hold

Brian Atlason BL your mind no you're not blowing my mind because you just said descended from slavery are you think you think all black people are descendant of us slaves because there's

Pixieblack people in that in various regions around the world of course yeah absolutely but the point is that they have a what is it historical claim that oh you know these people were viewed as

Pixieblack here this is a history of this place etc etc not like oh you know I have no culture or background connected to it now I'm going to claim to be black well that's what I'm saying there has to be some there's a historical claim there

Brian Atlasat least in our society that treats it that way okay so that's a difference we can talk about something else now yeah well I'm I'm that was Candice owens's argument because she was making the race

Aeliacomparison I like I wasn't really prepared to make that argument but what what what you got I just have one more comment and it's not about the race versus gender because those are two very very different things mine is for you in

Aeliaparticular because you said that your view of a woman is motherhood and there are a lot of women that would take offense to that because it's really really painful for women that can't have kids or can't be mothers for that reason so I think that that's not a good way to

Aeliaidentify a woman I'm just saying that like no that's a great Point honestly that's a great point I just meant for me how I feel like

Taraum what makes me feel most woman out of like anything else and and but but also I don't have kids it's just the thought that I want them it's it's so maybe even it's just that maybe it's like the mothering instinct I I don't have kids

Taraand I may be someone who isn't able to I mean hopefully that is absolutely not the case but it's just the desire to have kids the desire to be nurturing that's where and I don't have them yet

Aeliabut that is still what makes me feel most woman than any like yeah and that's very fair I just think those are two like the way you said it the first time in saying that those are two very very

Taradifferent things so that clarification pretty much I mean I don't particularly in the first place have a strong opinion on the transgender issue I mean in in terms of like words of it all and like the

Brian Atlaswording of it all the definitions of it all like I don't really have like much commentary on that because again it's just words it doesn't really have like much well the okay so the typical recommended go-to for what is a woman if you you say you lean more conservative

Brian Atlasright pretty Center but yeah I mean I think she does she does make a good point like your ability to get pregnant doesn't like if a woman had like a hysterectomy she's still a woman just

Previous 1 2 3 4 5 Next