HEATED DEBATE With Beret Girl, ØF Girls STORM OUT?! | Dating Talk #70

Date: 2023-05-01
Duration: 5h 04m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_01Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_02Lexi(guest)
SPEAKER_03Amanda (Never Average Chick)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Andrew Tate (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_06Frankie Dutra(guest)
SPEAKER_07Nikki Shay(guest)
SPEAKER_08Leah (Beret Girl)(guest)
SPEAKER_09Joe(guest)
SPEAKER_10Julie(guest)
SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)

Key Moments

00:07:05
IntroLeah introduces herself as age ~25, ex-sex worker (escorting and OnlyFans), now anti-sex revolution/industry activist; still earns passively from archived OnlyFans.
00:09:31
IntroJulie introduces herself as 25, content creator with bodybuilding background and OnlyFans; brought her dog Bella (ESA) to the show.
00:18:28
IntroFrankie Dutra (21, Ritz Carlton server) introduces himself with girlfriend Madison (18, SBCC student); he red-pilled her toward conservative values.
00:43:54
OtherFrankie gives Madison a promise ring on camera. Plans to marry around age 21-23 and have 2-3 children.
01:26:00
ControversyLeah (Beret Girl) challenges Brian's show format: accuses him of bringing on uneducated/unself-aware women to make them look stupid for viral clips and chat laughs.
01:26:15
ControversyBrian defends the show format as long-form dating conversation; calls Leah's critique a straw man. Leah says it is a happy accident that exploitation drives his virality.
02:13:20
OtherLeah refuses to participate in the self-rating round, arguing rating women's looks is objectifying and antithetical to feminism.
02:42:35
OtherAmanda (Never Average Chick) admits she uses dating apps while married to funnel men to her OnlyFans; men are aware she is married and have autonomy.
02:43:17
OtherAmanda reveals she had sex with her husband on a live OnlyFans stream.
04:33:00
OtherSeveral guests (Joe, Nikki, and others) disengage from the feminist debate panel around 2:44, going to sit on the couch. Brian notices three empty mics and addresses them. Leah announces she is going to the couch. Brian asks them to leave (~2:48) when they continue talking behind the scenes.
04:33:55
ControversyBrian asks the disengaged guests to leave: "can you guys not talk behind the scenes... you can get out." They leave. Brian says he has never had to ask someone to leave before.
04:44:00
ControversyLeah's Twitch drama surfaced via superchats (user "Modern Life Dating" sends multiple $100 donations accusing Leah of lying/manipulation). Leah dismisses it as old drama she does not want to discuss on stream.
04:44:39
QuoteAndrew Tate clip played (garbage man speech): men go to work to provide for families, not to oppress women. Panel agrees it makes a valid point.
04:52:11
QuotePatrice O'Neal clip played: if a woman lost her vagina in a train accident, how would she keep her man? Julie says she would give oral sex; Leah objects to reducing women to sexual orifices.
04:56:00
QuoteLeah's closing message: women should not have casual sex, should not have sex with strangers, and should get off birth control.
05:01:00
OtherBrian criticizes the panel for arriving 50 minutes late, causing the show to run long. Julie thanks him and says he is doing a wonderful job.

Topics Discussed

00:00:00
Announcements and sponsor

Brian announces new audio/computer setup, TTS rules, Streamlabs, Twitch plug, Tiege Hanley sponsor.

00:07:00
Guest introductions, backgrounds, and relationship status

Guests introduce themselves (name, age, occupation). Brian asks about relationship status, longest relationship. Leah introduces as ex-sex worker/anti-sex industry activist, still passively earning from OF. Julie: content creator/bodybuilder, first relationship. Amanda: married content creator. Joe: 20, nightclub hostess with boyfriend. Nikki Shay: 26, promotional modeling, single. Lexi: 20, Hooters new hire, recently divorced at 18. Frankie and Madison: couple, promise ring exchange.

00:46:00
Sex work, OnlyFans, and society

Discussion on only fans as art vs sex work, content creator finances, impact on future children, using dating apps to funnel OF customers, NBA player DMs, objectification debate begins with Leah pushing back on OF normalization.

01:33:00
Heated debate: feminist critique of the show and rating system

Leah challenges Brian directly on the show's purpose, accusing it of bringing on uneducated/unself-aware women for viral clips. Brian defends the format. Leah objects to the rating round. Extensive debate on whether the show exploits women. Most heated exchange of the episode.

02:10:00
Plastic surgery, self-ratings, and body standards

Brian asks panel about plastic surgery (breast augmentation, BBL, fillers). Self-ratings round. Leah refuses to participate on feminist grounds. Brian asks about plastic surgery preferences.

02:40:00
Blue check marks, athletes in DMs, and being flown out

Panel shares experiences with celebrity/athlete DMs and being flown out. RJ Barrett suspected. Promise ring moment between Frankie and Madison. Parents as friends discussion.

03:02:00
Body count, hypergamy, and sexual marketplace

Panel discusses whether body count matters, their own body counts. Brian makes hypergamy arguments. Leah pushes back on evolutionary biology framing. Debate on birth control, sexual revolution, and women's choices.

04:00:00
OF girls disengage and exit; feminist/patriarchy debate continues

Joe, Nikki, and possibly others disengage from debate (~2:44) and sit on the couch. Brian asks them to leave (~2:48). Debate continues between Brian, Leah, Amanda, Julie on patriarchy theory, feminist ideology, and systemic oppression. Remaining: Leah, Amanda, Julie, Frankie, Madison.

04:33:00
Twitch drama, Andrew Tate and Patrice O'Neal clips

Leah's Twitch drama briefly surfaced via superchats. Andrew Tate clip (garbage man speech) played; panel reacts. Patrice O'Neal clip on keeping a man without a vagina played; panel reacts.

04:54:00
Closing remarks and Twitch raid

Brian wraps up, reads final superchats, complains about guests being 50 minutes late causing the show to run long. Twitch raid to pasharo (WoW streamer).

Transcript

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04:49:19
Leah (Beret Girl)we'll figure it out okay um your reaction to the take clip we just watched and we'll go around the table and get everyone's reaction go ahead uh yeah I think um men's lives suck unfortunately
04:49:31
Leah (Beret Girl)evolutionarily women are the sexual selectors so if you want a wife and you want one in your 20s or in your 30s you probably should treat women nicely you should probably get your bag you should probably do all those things
04:49:43
Brian Atlasum so that you can create a family and a purpose go ahead your reaction to the video can you uh strain the microphone yeah sorry um straighten it
04:49:56
Julieum um everyone hates Andrew tay but honestly that was a very valid point that's all I have to say period do you hit educate I literally
04:50:07
Juliewas the first clip of him I've ever seen really I swear to you and actually I like I like him for that huh okay men work hard I have to say the same thing and I respect it
04:50:18
Nikki ShayI think men will have some their opinion and women have their opinion as well but I mean he made a valid point I would 100 agree with Andrew Tay I
04:50:30
Frankie Dutrathink what Andrew Tate says as really motivating to a lot of young men gets them motivated up and going and I agree with most of the stuff he says sorry I wasn't laughing at you guys we're just talking about that one clip yeah just
04:50:41
Brian Atlasthat clip Madison your take on the clip I agree with everyone who's a very valid point word base yep I mean I'll just quickly say like yeah men
04:50:53
Brian Atlasaren't going out to work to like oppress women most men are going out to work to be providers to provide for their family and to provide for women so it's not like this big oppression thing
04:51:05
Leah (Beret Girl)but okay let's do the Patrice clip Eric if you can pull up well some people would say that was the patriarchy also that was solidifying the gender roles uh I will snatch your mic I will I'm just
04:51:16
Brian Atlassaying are you gonna twerk on her again too yeah no oh no would you suck if you did that would you object to her twerking on you again did you kind of enjoy it or
04:51:26
Julierelax you [ __ ] free what the f why is that why is that weird relax I'm just I'm not trying to get some Like Girls Gone Wild what the [ __ ] yeah I'm just like we should have done that but
04:51:37
Brian Atlasbecause I took the direction because it's kind of like Direction in the wrong way that's kind of like okay it's kind of acquaintances okay whatever let's play the uh Patrice clip you guys I need
04:51:49
Brian Atlasyou to pay very close attention to this because he's gonna ask a question and I'm saying this with gravitas that might change your life so I need you
04:51:59
Brian Atlasguys to pay very close attention Eric can you play the Patrice clip please
04:52:07
Brian Atlasuh started from the beginning voice crack
04:52:14
Patrice O'Neal (clip)let me ask you a question here's a question let's go see this question okay ladies if you didn't have a vagina like say it was a terrible train accident right and the doctor
04:52:26
Patrice O'Neal (clip)was like we have to remove your [ __ ] right away or you're gonna die how would you keep your man past you get a two-month
04:52:39
Patrice O'Neal (clip)guilty I can't leave the [ __ ] right away because you just lost [ __ ] in the train ax
04:52:46
Patrice O'Neal (clip)can't just walk right out on them
04:52:52
Patrice O'Neal (clip)how would you keep your man pass that if you did not Regina Eric can you pause it
04:53:01
Leah (Beret Girl)so you're what would you do to keep your man I think reducing a woman to just a
04:53:10
Julie[ __ ] orifice is so ridiculous okay start with me hello I would just really emphasize my personality I would suck a stick what's up I would
04:53:22
TTS/Donationsjust suck his dick oh hide that Eric Modern Life dating oh my God of course you don't want to debate me laugh you're a liar and the new Amber
04:53:33
TTS/DonationsHurst the entire internet knows yeah I'm crazy I'm crazy I'm not spending 500 to harass a random e-woman dude I told you as a Chad that's
04:53:44
Nikki Shaynot a challenge no he's not he's a freak be nice to him I'll do no be nice tell him to be nice to me go ahead oh
04:53:56
Brian Atlasokay so yes let's get back let's thank you MLG for the donation um we were reacting to the Patrice clip so you sir we already where are you halfway around the table what do you do to keep your man I I said please him in
04:54:08
Brian Atlasother ways such as food oral sex oral sex okay Madison play if you've seen it but if
04:54:19
Madisonyou want to just well I agree I think there's other things to resort to if your man will leave you just because you are missing your vajayjay then he only wants you for sex and you need to find a
04:54:30
Brian Atlasbetter man word okay let's finish the clip Eric if you can pull up this
04:54:44
Patrice O'Neal (clip)nothing you can talk you can talk
04:54:49
Patrice O'Neal (clip)suck his dick okay mouth
04:54:55
Patrice O'Neal (clip)[ __ ] okay right you see what I'm saying now I've been getting [ __ ] being the whole show right but I give women an opportunity to say I'm gonna make myself worth more but you
04:55:07
Patrice O'Neal (clip)you just classified yourself as a series of holes but but you know I'm I'm supposed to treat you special but you just a bunch of hoes to yourself
04:55:21
Patrice O'Neal (clip)no one said learn how to play Xbox learn how to play pool tell better stories get another [ __ ] that got a [ __ ] to come on in
04:55:31
Brian Atlaswow look whatever okay any further response some of you took the bait just saying yeah I think that's ridiculous when he
04:55:44
Madisonasked the question he was like inferring like in a sexual way like what else would you do sexually what was it well he just I don't know if he was necessarily inferring but that's
04:55:55
Madisoneveryone who to listen to the question is automatically going to think that it's not unreasonable that's fair yeah yeah that's fair okay
04:56:08
Brian Atlaswe're going to wrap up Last Chance final thought anybody
04:56:14
Leah (Beret Girl)okay that's no don't have sex with men what the [ __ ] uh oh end of the species women don't have don't have casual sex women don't have casual sex what
04:56:26
Leah (Beret Girl)casual sex and I'm saying women do not don't have casual what is having sex with strangers don't have sex with strangers
04:56:35
Leah (Beret Girl)and women get off of birth control oh no this panel is just feral yo feral and if you find yourself
04:56:46
Frankie Dutrapregnant and you find out it's a boy you know what to do population control [Music] okay
04:56:59
Brian Atlasyeah thank you asteroids Jesus oh [ __ ] there's a whole okay um all right guys we're gonna wrap up
04:57:10
Brian Atlaswait is there anything [Music]
04:57:16
TTS/DonationsI'll gladly drop money to expose you lack I'm not for sale like you so money doesn't rule me enjoy your little clout truth is coming for you truth is coming
04:57:27
Leah (Beret Girl)for you I'll be waiting you're laughing is that your Twitch I no love is it was my porn name that I was going by for a while but my name is my name is Khalia
04:57:38
Brian Atlasso how many names do you have my name is Kalia I go by Leah okay I've been on the internet for a long time word Okay cool so uh yeah that was uh I'll
04:57:50
Brian Atlasjust send another ass for oh my God what the [ __ ] is happening hold on I'll stop them okay this one can come one more time yo chat uh thank you chat for all the support tonight you guys have been
04:58:02
Brian Atlasoverwhelming thank you for all the uh support but uh anyways guys last call hit that like button please on your way out thanks for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate
04:58:12
Brian Atlasthat oh who should I uh rate on Twitch any hold on is there any who's live on Twitch I'm gonna send you guys over there in just a sec um one sec here let me just pull this up stream manager uh shout out to everyone on Twitch who
04:58:26
Brian Atlaswatches and supports and who's gifted subs and follows thank you guys so much over there on Twitch we are going to get some emotes here pretty soon um hold on let me see who I'm following
04:58:35
Brian Atlaswho I can read sorry guys it's my laptop is crap pick channels you follow none I don't have any
04:58:45
Julieamaranth raid amaran what we have the same ring I just wanted us to wait what show it to the camera
04:58:56
Brian Atlasum should we raid is she an eagle oh no coupon's great she's super sassy and she's fun go with
04:59:12
Brian Atlasnadiao TV he's a World of Warcraft gamer I think he's playing yo I'm gonna let the chat decide I'm gonna let the chat decide do we raid cute bot on Twitch or do raid peshero who's like an Italian
04:59:23
Brian AtlasWorld of Warcraft player the World of Warcraft player or cute bot don't read her
04:59:33
Brian Atlaso no e-girls I'm about to raid your pantry period yo we should do she does like oh my God the [ __ ] asteroid's still coming we should do
04:59:45
Brian Atlasshe has like a dating talk show I should do maybe I can do an appearance on it I don't know feel bad for the other lab status of famous forever my dad is Little John okay that's
04:59:58
Brian Atlasthat's plausible um okay I'm gonna raid here let me just say this real quick okay um so before I send you guys over there on the raid on Twitch um you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that thank you
05:00:11
TTS/Donationsto everyone who super chats and supports the show thank you to the panel up oh Ivan Jr donated 100 Brian this very chick really hurt I don't think I can sit through another
05:00:23
Leah (Beret Girl)one like this Ivan send me a picture of you crying I want to see it send me a picture of my DM tear streaming from your face I want to see it and I want to laugh we do have Destiny coming in like two
05:00:35
Brian Atlasweeks great the chat's telling me I should talk to okay whatever I don't know any I don't know any details about whatever happened I don't know and the [ __ ] stream okay
05:00:46
Brian Atlasso yes please think of the panel thanks to all our chat mods by the way I will say one point we could have ended sooner had you guys been on time just saying you guys were 50 minutes late just
05:00:59
Brian Atlassaying just say I'm throwing it down I was on time I was three minutes you were on time you were 30 minutes late I don't know traffic did the podcast 23. now we started this podcast like 30 minutes late so look you guys can be rolling your
05:01:12
Julieeyes oh my God the podcast is going so long look get here on time next time that's all I got no truthfully we are very grateful to be on this podcast and you're doing a wonderful job and like whatever
05:01:24
Brian Atlasyeah I appreciate you guys coming just we love Brian thanks for having us we had and I just want to say like Brian is so bad at ending the show Facts okay last thing we had some girls request to be on the
05:01:36
Brian Atlasshow this was like an only fans panel like I don't know it was a couple months two months ago it was uh is the one with Kiko and then whatever it doesn't matter we it was three only
05:01:47
Brian Atlasfans girls came they requested to be on the show they were we try to go live at 7 pm they showed up 10 minutes before we were supposed to go live they were late and then they were rolling their eyes at
05:01:59
Brian Atlasthe end of the show oh it's going on so long I'm like we could have started the show on time had you arrived on time that's all I got to say if you guys are gonna be like oh it's going on so long look get here on time and we can start
05:02:11
Juliethe show on time we can get you out at an appropriate time Okay so say that while you look me in the eyes just kidding I just had to sorry it was the person
05:02:21
Brian Atlasno everything I say is genuinely sarcasm I hope you understand it's my ideal I know we got a lot of people on the East Coast who want to watch the show and and I try to start it
05:02:33
Brian AtlasI tried to start it at 7 pm but like most most of the time if we have a delay Guys somebody was late and it's not us so uh that's all I have to say on that thank you to our trap mods any women who want to be on the show DM at whatever on
05:02:46
Brian AtlasInstagram I'll read that super chat before we wrap here I'm gonna send uh while I have Eric pull that up I'm going to send the twitch people over to uh I'm gonna send you the pasharo say what's up
05:02:56
Brian Atlasto him he's a World of Warcraft streamer sorry no Eagles I I don't think I'll ever read a new girl unless there's just no like actual gamer on so I'm sending twitch
05:03:08
Brian Atlasover to pasharo uh say what's up to him um ask him when he's gonna come on the podcast all right sending you guys over and uh okay so Eric can you pull up that last Super Chat sorry ladies you're all
05:03:20
Brian Atlason Easy Street 35 years old play basketball tonight rolled my ankle and got a split lip from the jump ball no excuses time to work tomorrow yo hot thank you for the 50 soup chat by the way can you shoot me an email you've been like super supportive I want to get
05:03:31
Brian Atlasyou part of uh anyone who's like regular super chatter constant super chatter we have a chat Chads uh Instagram group chat so hit me up join it up maybe I'll get
05:03:43
Brian AtlasDiscord going eventually okay so we will we will be live sure your ankle feels better I should have said this before I air can you hide that thank you hot 50 appreciate it I should have said this before I sent the twitch people
05:03:55
Brian Atlasover we'll be live again Tuesday at 7 p.m Pacific I got a good show for you guys so be sure to tune into that anyways guys we'll see you next time I hope you guys have a good night
05:04:06
Juliewe'll see you later three wait three two one chicken