HEATED DEBATE With Beret Girl, ØF Girls STORM OUT?! | Dating Talk #70

Date: 2023-05-01

Duration: 5h 04m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLeah (Beret Girl)>

AAmanda (Never Average Chick)>

FFrankie Dutra >

MMadison (SBCC)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_02Lexi(guest)

SPEAKER_03Amanda (Never Average Chick)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Andrew Tate (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_06Frankie Dutra(guest)

SPEAKER_07Nikki Shay(guest)

SPEAKER_08Leah (Beret Girl)(guest)

SPEAKER_09Joe(guest)

SPEAKER_10Julie(guest)

SPEAKER_11Madison(guest)

Key Moments

IntroLeah introduces herself as age ~25, ex-sex worker (escorting and OnlyFans), now anti-sex revolution/industry activist; still earns passively from archived OnlyFans.

IntroJulie introduces herself as 25, content creator with bodybuilding background and OnlyFans; brought her dog Bella (ESA) to the show.

IntroFrankie Dutra (21, Ritz Carlton server) introduces himself with girlfriend Madison (18, SBCC student); he red-pilled her toward conservative values.

OtherFrankie gives Madison a promise ring on camera. Plans to marry around age 21-23 and have 2-3 children.

ControversyLeah (Beret Girl) challenges Brian's show format: accuses him of bringing on uneducated/unself-aware women to make them look stupid for viral clips and chat laughs.

ControversyBrian defends the show format as long-form dating conversation; calls Leah's critique a straw man. Leah says it is a happy accident that exploitation drives his virality.

OtherLeah refuses to participate in the self-rating round, arguing rating women's looks is objectifying and antithetical to feminism.

OtherAmanda (Never Average Chick) admits she uses dating apps while married to funnel men to her OnlyFans; men are aware she is married and have autonomy.

OtherAmanda reveals she had sex with her husband on a live OnlyFans stream.

OtherSeveral guests (Joe, Nikki, and others) disengage from the feminist debate panel around 2:44, going to sit on the couch. Brian notices three empty mics and addresses them. Leah announces she is going to the couch. Brian asks them to leave (~2:48) when they continue talking behind the scenes.

ControversyBrian asks the disengaged guests to leave: "can you guys not talk behind the scenes... you can get out." They leave. Brian says he has never had to ask someone to leave before.

ControversyLeah's Twitch drama surfaced via superchats (user "Modern Life Dating" sends multiple $100 donations accusing Leah of lying/manipulation). Leah dismisses it as old drama she does not want to discuss on stream.

QuoteAndrew Tate clip played (garbage man speech): men go to work to provide for families, not to oppress women. Panel agrees it makes a valid point.

QuotePatrice O'Neal clip played: if a woman lost her vagina in a train accident, how would she keep her man? Julie says she would give oral sex; Leah objects to reducing women to sexual orifices.

QuoteLeah's closing message: women should not have casual sex, should not have sex with strangers, and should get off birth control.

OtherBrian criticizes the panel for arriving 50 minutes late, causing the show to run long. Julie thanks him and says he is doing a wonderful job.

Topics Discussed

Announcements and sponsor

Brian announces new audio/computer setup, TTS rules, Streamlabs, Twitch plug, Tiege Hanley sponsor.

Guest introductions, backgrounds, and relationship status

Guests introduce themselves (name, age, occupation). Brian asks about relationship status, longest relationship. Leah introduces as ex-sex worker/anti-sex industry activist, still passively earning from OF. Julie: content creator/bodybuilder, first relationship. Amanda: married content creator. Joe: 20, nightclub hostess with boyfriend. Nikki Shay: 26, promotional modeling, single. Lexi: 20, Hooters new hire, recently divorced at 18. Frankie and Madison: couple, promise ring exchange.

Sex work, OnlyFans, and society

Discussion on only fans as art vs sex work, content creator finances, impact on future children, using dating apps to funnel OF customers, NBA player DMs, objectification debate begins with Leah pushing back on OF normalization.

Heated debate: feminist critique of the show and rating system

Leah challenges Brian directly on the show's purpose, accusing it of bringing on uneducated/unself-aware women for viral clips. Brian defends the format. Leah objects to the rating round. Extensive debate on whether the show exploits women. Most heated exchange of the episode.

Plastic surgery, self-ratings, and body standards

Brian asks panel about plastic surgery (breast augmentation, BBL, fillers). Self-ratings round. Leah refuses to participate on feminist grounds. Brian asks about plastic surgery preferences.

Blue check marks, athletes in DMs, and being flown out

Panel shares experiences with celebrity/athlete DMs and being flown out. RJ Barrett suspected. Promise ring moment between Frankie and Madison. Parents as friends discussion.

Body count, hypergamy, and sexual marketplace

Panel discusses whether body count matters, their own body counts. Brian makes hypergamy arguments. Leah pushes back on evolutionary biology framing. Debate on birth control, sexual revolution, and women's choices.

OF girls disengage and exit; feminist/patriarchy debate continues

Joe, Nikki, and possibly others disengage from debate (~2:44) and sit on the couch. Brian asks them to leave (~2:48). Debate continues between Brian, Leah, Amanda, Julie on patriarchy theory, feminist ideology, and systemic oppression. Remaining: Leah, Amanda, Julie, Frankie, Madison.

Twitch drama, Andrew Tate and Patrice O'Neal clips

Leah's Twitch drama briefly surfaced via superchats. Andrew Tate clip (garbage man speech) played; panel reacts. Patrice O'Neal clip on keeping a man without a vagina played; panel reacts.

Closing remarks and Twitch raid

Brian wraps up, reads final superchats, complains about guests being 50 minutes late causing the show to run long. Twitch raid to pasharo (WoW streamer).

Transcript

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Brian Atlassee my lady Ivan junior thank you for the 100 man appreciate it glad you're able to get the TTS figured out um appreciate it man um so what we're talking about

Leah (Beret Girl)[Laughter] polygamy you need to have a specific time in which you read all these like rapid fire and then we could just a lot of people a lot of people you're talking about a

Leah (Beret Girl)place so yeah I don't I don't think that I don't think that we're ever going to have a polygamous Society I don't think it works I think that monogamy is ingrained in our lives I think evolutionarily women want one man they do and they want their man to be true to

Leah (Beret Girl)them but so I don't think that we'll ever live in a polygamous Society I think I know what you're going with that and it feels that way especially with the degeneracy but I just don't think it'll happen well I mean perhaps it's a

Brian Atlasbit of hyperbole to say that we're going towards a a polygamous Society but like in a I guess more of a broad General sense I do get the sense that there's a

Brian Atlaslot of women who are sharing the same guys there's more women who are what's the term there are more women who are eskimo sisters then there are then there

Brian Atlasare men who are eskimo brothers so basically you have women who are all looking towards that top tier of men chasing after that that top tier of men sure but what happens is when a woman

Brian Atlasthroughout her 20s is just boom boom boom NBA player like all of you guys said I got NBA players in my DMs hold on damn it I don't want you it was a legitimate

Brian Atlasquestion torture blank is a bit uh maybe I should rephrase my question because reality sometimes is uncomfortable was there any thought on how it affects your future due to your own actions or for financial gain via of

Amanda (Never Average Chick)he's talking about the kids and how like oh sure yeah how you think it's going to affect them if you would regret it like later on down the road wait [ __ ] um I have to uh did we do this

Brian Atlasone the Freshman fifth one I think okay um so you'll have women who go through their

Brian Atlas20s just like Chad Chad Chad like getting with really attractive guys because here's the difference right well I have my own thoughts on this sure a woman could

Brian Atlasmen will sleep down so a woman could sleep with everything yeah but what ends up happening and this is why I think a lot of women consider themselves to be tens is because they can get sexual

Brian Atlasattention from men who are like really high status or really attractive and then they think well if I can get that guy that means that I must also be of a

Brian Atlascomparable attraction attractiveness level but that just simply isn't the case because men will gladly sleep with women that they would never commit to and never be in relationships with because they welcome the easy access to sex for a woman to sleep with a guy that

TTS/Donationsguy almost most of the time oh [ __ ] I was about to show some good [ __ ] 100 thank you man appreciate it please if there's someone who pays 20K per month as an

TTS/Donationsallowance to you confirms won't commit but wants to use you sexually as and when he pleases anytime anywhere what you take the offer that way at least you won't be a famous 304 rather an

Brian Atlasexclusive 304. word a salska thank you for the 100 man appreciate it uh is there a question here for the girls or not really

TTS/Donationsdon't think so okay so oh my God these guys are on fire the chat is on fire thank you ladies from right to left number one delusional debater number two rude

TTS/Donationsof may not realize her man is a Sim number four can't form an opinion of her own the dude and chick by Brian thumbs up

Leah (Beret Girl)out of view I'm the president Brian for president let's go let's go so when you talk about women who want to date up you're talking about money you're not talking about looks women often don't go for like the

Leah (Beret Girl)most handsome men they go for they also they also go up looks too sure but that's not what you're talking about with hypergamy you're talking about men who have it all together you're not talking about the hottest man because they're certainly very hot men

Brian Atlaswho women won't date because they don't have money we know that this is true well I mean I think there's like there's a couple different standards like women will come some women will come part to mentalize it so they'll be like that's the really hot dude but like he doesn't

Brian Atlasreally have his life together but he's in bed he's super [ __ ] hot here's dinner guy never gonna sleep with him you're talking about marriage no I'm talking about like women will put men in

Brian Atlasthese categories like dinner dude he gets me Ubers he provides emotional support he doesn't make sense he's my security here's the hot dude who I just like to [ __ ] but like you're okay

Leah (Beret Girl)so you're you're taking an issue with evolutionary biology in which women again are sexual selectors so they get to choose who they have their kin with sure and I understand that that's hard for men especially men who can't make the cut but unfortunately women do have

Brian Atlasthat power and they should have that power and that's just the way that animals are that's the way that we are yes but women also have agency so women are not women are not slaves to their own

Leah (Beret Girl)sexual selectedness or their hypergamy well I was just about to say that I think that we should we should encourage women to not sleep around like men I don't think that men

Leah (Beret Girl)should sleep around like men well I agree with both sure I think it is not advantageous to men for women to be sleeping with everyone that they see and I don't think it's I especially don't think it's advantageous for women and I think that

Brian Atlaswould solve a lot of the hypergamous issue yeah I mean I think I think both men and women have some degree of well we both have responsibility when it comes to this I mean the the big thing is though

Brian Atlasis that because women are the sexual selectors women control who has access to sex yes so well they're doing a pretty poor job of it since birth control

Leah (Beret Girl)like validate that though well men play into hookup culture but men created hookup culture

Leah (Beret Girl)I disagree no women ever evolutionarily women and we know based off of Statistics that women are not happy right now they're not happy with hookup culture they hate it women like pair bonding they like finding one person and

Leah (Beret Girl)they like their families and they like doing that men are the ones who like having sex with anything because they have a lower uh discuss levels what is it a lower um

Leah (Beret Girl)discuss thresh thresholds right so men will have sex with anything because also you have testosterone coaching through your veins which makes you sexually aggressive it makes you want to have sex with more people women don't have that

Leah (Beret Girl)lower disgust thresholds yeah I think I think you're right okay yeah so women women will get the ick much faster than a man will okay I

Leah (Beret Girl)see what you mean and that's and that's and that is evolutionarily so that we can protect ourselves and create and healthy offspring hmm I think though within the context of

Brian Atlaslike for example assessing a potential partner based on uh promiscuity men have a greater discuss threshold when it comes to a woman's promise cutie than a woman does towards a man's promiscuity sure women actually I think that's

Leah (Beret Girl)cultural though well I think there's something solution yeah you would say then that it is the it could be another man's child that's there's that uh that theory well there's

Brian Atlasthat but also women are attracted to men like if a man can sleep with a lot of women he's pre-selected

TTS/Donationsit's absolutely absurd that Beret sold her box hole then argue men are the problem women are in power honestly if you view us as animals Berry shut up and

Leah (Beret Girl)be submissive like you're an animal while the robot was very aggressive shut up there if I think we're animals if you view us as animals we are animals we're mammals we are literally animals and we think

Brian Atlaswe're Gods but so okay bring by the way uh knits and thing for the 100 uh donation appreciate it so when it comes to the discussed threshold when it comes to promiscuity women will

Brian Atlaslook at a guy who slept with a lot of women and be attracted to it be more attracted to him because that like a man's promise you some women might be disgusted Yeah by promiscuous

Brian Atlasmen it might be even a lot of women are disgusted by but I think it's far less than the degree to which men are disgusted by female it's also a scarcity theology right like men want something

Brian Atlasthat a lot of men can't have wait men sure yeah yes I agree and I mean you mentioned you brought up uh the paternity uncertainty component so one

Brian Atlasof the reasons it's I think it's evolutionary hardwiring for men to prefer women with who are less promiscuous or who are virgins or who have a low body count is because

Brian Atlasbefore night the 1980s when we had paternity testing DNA testing if a woman was promiscuous and she had previously slept with someone and she you want to get married to her or whatever you want to have kids with her there's no way to

Brian Atlasguarantee that the child is yours so a woman who has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all of them before 40 years ago you don't know who the father is sure you don't know but a man who's sleeping

Brian Atlaswith who has 10 wives who's sleeping with 10 women you know for certain who the father is sure in all instances so for evolutionary reasons I think men have a more vested interest in

Leah (Beret Girl)finding a partner who's not promiscuous or who has a low body count I think with birth control that is true I think that women well I think that birth I'm really against birth control I think that birth

Leah (Beret Girl)control absolutely obliterates uh obliterates women I think that many hormones in a person shouldn't exist and it also I think gave women agency uh to have sex with like dusties and scrubs

Leah (Beret Girl)who like don't care about them and they didn't have to be selective anymore I think that without birth control without being post-human uh women have more of more interest in being way more

Leah (Beret Girl)selective with who they sleep with because pregnancy is really hard on a body and then you're stuck with the kid in a way that a man is not stuck with the kid I think the birth control uh gave yeah made made it so that women

Leah (Beret Girl)that children was a biological choice for women but it was a social choice for men um to be a father and I think that that is I think that sucks well yeah and I think earlier on in the show you brought up the sexual revolution in which I

Brian Atlasthink you said you were against I mean that basically started after the Advent of birth control birth control yeah and anti-christianity in the 50s yeah um by the way did the one about you getting annihilated yeah did we pull

Brian Atlasthat one up yeah about three times I need to get caught up on a couple of these before they uh fall off my screen here so we have this one uh thank you for the uh que onde essay thanks for the 50 Brian this is your platform many chicks act like they're doing you a

Brian Atlasfavor when in reality you are giving them an opportunity if they don't want to cooperate with questions or respect you or your platform you can get the F out word yeah I mean look I have pretty good patience like with that but they're

Brian Atlasjust getting up leaving she didn't want to be part of the panel granted y'all are [ __ ] roasting the [ __ ] out of the girls so you know you know what I mean you know

Brian Atlasum but uh yeah so I rarely I I don't think I've ever kicked a girl out and they were already like on their [ __ ] way so I it wasn't like a proper kick out you know

Brian Atlasum all right hide that Eric yeah Lee lirasil thank you look at the lack of accountability they laugh at the reality of the perception their actions will reap and standards of the men they

Brian Atlaswant watch the GoPro shift Brian your nogi read an of a 10-year prediction divorced or simped up your response I don't have a response because it

Brian Atlasdoesn't need a response okay the scoff was a response okay we have uh let's see Ivan Junior thinking man let's make this clear any form of using your body read

Leah (Beret Girl)this I did yeah okay um are you sure yep we're gonna cycle through it about two more times though Frick okay we have this one who's

Leah (Beret Girl)shaking the table you see I'm so sorry Jesus

Brian Atlasokay uh because you can't hold yourself wait did I read this one yes wait what did it come through twice I don't think we read that one no we

Brian Atlashaven't that's a different one oh it's just it's very similar it's rephrased yeah yeah I think he rephrased it sit on the couch oh oh [ __ ] let me pull it up I'll read it um yo uh our proof of the degeneration of

Brian Atlasthis ideology of feminists they laugh sit on the couch the casting couch okay any response guys literally your question okay

Brian Atlaslet me yeah does anyone remember where we were on yeah we did this one yo Samuel Lacosta good to see you man you know uh

Brian AtlasChad he's a Chad by the way BTW um thank you man we need to bring base Chase back on to tell all these chicks that sex is sacred and they are selling their bodies spirits and Minds for money which is mentally unhealthy it leads to the destruction of the very men

Brian Atlasbro it's just been the the super chat's been [ __ ] tough tonight um it leads to the description destruction of the very men they wish were there to actually love them

Brian Atlasyou guys got response

Brian AtlasI have an amazing husband that loves me very much so I don't really care about your comments Good Times bads underscore exe 50. thank you uh the joke is your life I'm not sure that's direct to thank you man Mariah the eating Warrior Miss

Brian Atlastacky had this annoying and the walking contradiction LOL Frank Castle yeah she's been a good sport I think she's she's been pretty uh polite so uh you know she disagrees with me that's

Brian Atlasfine uh the Lomax I believe this is Singaporean thank you uh isn't it ironic how s3fos will attempt to insult one sexuality when they have nothing smart to say to answer the question that's what you get when you have nothing else

Brian Atlasto offer PS I'm happily married in bricks and Singapore dollar yeah that's what I thought Lomax appreciate it man uh Madison can you read this one my

Madisonvoice is getting a little parched I believe that woman telling each other our tens that didn't even make sense sorry when there aren't doesn't actually lead to

Madisonbody positivity in particularly larger women and women with obesity it leads to unhealthy Lifestyles such as continuing to eat unhealthy and not being healthy

Leah (Beret Girl)thank you for the Australian 50 appreciate it man be in cheeks with the 50 go ahead Madison Bureau has a beta oh wait actually let's have her read it go ahead Beret girl has a beta sent boy who

Leah (Beret Girl)will never be a man and has never been with the real man a real man if you have a man with leadership qualities you won't ever have the feminist mentality and will finally be feminine only then will you have a successful marriage

Leah (Beret Girl)I believe it I believe that a successful marriage comes from uh men valuing their partner their female partner as their other not as an inferior other not as a

Leah (Beret Girl)slave someone who brings to the relationship what they want you know something two halves of a whole and uh yeah this whole be obedient to your husband thing

Leah (Beret Girl)it doesn't make women happy it doesn't make men happy and it's stupid when you say be obedient to me and be submissive yeah it doesn't make women happy

Brian Atlasyeah no I I don't I don't well listen it might make some women happy I think when you are but aren't aren't women sorry to cut you off there but there aren't most women like deeply

Leah (Beret Girl)unsatisfied with the current state of men and within their relationships sure I think that that's multiple things though I don't think it's because they're they're men are masculine enough you think because I that's a that's a

Brian Atlaspretty frequent criticism from women that there's not like where's where are all the good men there's a lack of men who are leaders and or who are masculine there are lack of men who are kind and see women as people

Brian Atlasyou can I mean you can believe in these sort of traditional relationship Dynamics and also be kind and view women as people but I don't think that often these this is where it gets into the patriarchy stuff like this is where

Leah (Beret Girl)this is where it's a whole other conversation I don't I don't think that men I think that men have attributed to themselves what it means to be human and they have seen women as their inferior

Brian Atlasother throughout the last couple centuries in I I well I reject that I don't think inferior

Leah (Beret Girl)I think we view science is different what do you mean science science has create has uh has are you talking about physical strength because I would women when it comes to physical strength are inferior

Leah (Beret Girl)sure but I think that but is that that's not what you're talking about I'm saying yeah men have attributed to themselves what what it means to be human what it's like to be a person what does that mean

Leah (Beret Girl)it means that they are the default men see themselves as the default and women are men which can hear your other men are the tons of men around the world medicine uh treated women as if they were men's inferior other

Leah (Beret Girl)um I mean it's it's been throughout been throughout the past couple Century like I I don't do you think that there are men who don't think that they're better than women or Superior to women oh

Brian Atlascertainly there are men that think they're Superior to women and I would also say that there are women who think they're Superior to men chiefly the feminist movement which I believe is a superior it's a Supremacy

Brian Atlasmovement that's ridiculous how's that ridiculous I think it's a Supremacy movement at all feminism is a I mean that that's perhaps a bit of hyperbole but um

Brian AtlasI think that there are Bad actors in feminism certainly well feminism is not certainly not an equality movement you're wrong it's not an equality movement okay and

Leah (Beret Girl)why do you say that well the most generous definition I would give oh wait actually I would like to challenge that for a second because I I disagree with the fact that everything has to be about equality I

Leah (Beret Girl)think that's very liberal feminism I think that we're post-liberal feminism now I would say that women like me and most feminists who are intellectual and well-read are actually searching for Equity rather than equality isn't that

Brian Atlasworse no what do you mean worse Equity so are you talking about um equality of outcome because that's how that's that's my sense of equity I'm talking about to

Leah (Beret Girl)each to their own needs so acknowledging that men and women are different and then saying that we are we both have equal dominion over the Earth

Brian Atlasright and because women are certain this gets into gender well okay well let's go back what before you interrupted me do you recall what what our thread was

Brian Atlaswe're all over the over the place what was our threat we okay oh feminism and equality right so I reject that feminism is an equality movement yes no just anecdotally just because

Madisonyou're Fifi's it's not about how I feel it's just a matter of fact it's not oh it's a matter of fact it is it is what are some things that feminists are asking for well feminine are people who

Madisonare like all about the feminists and I like like I said earlier feminism and femininity are two different things I think the way that people project feminism is like

Madisonlow-key like downgrading men to make themselves feel like when like in what ways like for example it just hold on I have to point us animals saying we want to

Frankie Dutra[ __ ] anything yeah most men aren't like that most men won't [ __ ] femininity is embracing well that's what there was a girl on the podcast a few weeks ago she had like eight dudes in one day she would [ __ ] anything there's definitely

Leah (Beret Girl)girls out there that would [ __ ] sure but that's that's also that's also a very small percentage of women and I exactly I suspect that that's coming from a place of mental health and deep

Leah (Beret Girl)insecurity rather than a need or a want for it we know that evolutionarily men are more sexually aggressive testosterone makes you want to have sex more not every man there are certainly

Leah (Beret Girl)men who are like you and don't want to and practice discernment and you know don't want to have sex with everything but majority of men evolutionarily do want to [ __ ] whatever they can whenever

Leah (Beret Girl)they can whenever they want it so I think that there are I think that we what we should be teaching men and is restraint and I think that you probably grew up with restraint I think that you know your parents probably were like you

Leah (Beret Girl)know men and women are different and you need to respect women and you need to make sure that your sexual desires or maybe you didn't have this talk explicitly but you at least knew in yourself that you needed to control those urges because you are bigger and

Leah (Beret Girl)stronger than women and you need to be respectful to them so that's what I say when I say that men are animals and when I say that you are predisposed to certain Behavior I don't think that every man is a rapist I think that certainly Every Man Has the

Leah (Beret Girl)predisposition to possibly want to rape but I don't think that's ridiculous also you can't say how is that ridiculous that's you're saying every man every man

Leah (Beret Girl)feels like wants to do that no I'm saying that they all have the predisposition they all have male sexual aggressions and they all have testosterone that's incredibly a sexist statement to make by your basically how is that a sexist statement we know that

Brian Atlasthat is true most of who commits violent crime is male most of who commits sexual violent crime is male this is ridiculous Apex fallacy you're looking at a very people who commit crime is such a small

Leah (Beret Girl)percentage of men you can't attribute to all men the actions of some how is how how are 80 of women sexually harassed or sexually assaulted

Leah (Beret Girl)okay well you can reject whatever you want this the what what remains true and what is material reality is that men are more sexually aggressive and one of the reasons that we are different is male

Brian Atlassexual aggression what do you mean by sexual aggression I want to be very precise in the words we're using here precisely what do you mean by sexual aggression

Leah (Beret Girl)sexual aggression but testosterone predisposes you to I don't be aggressive men have higher sex drives I agree with you there yes but they are more aggressive in general

Brian Atlasyes I sure I don't disagree with you men are more aggressive because of so what's the problem testosterone well your

Brian Atlasstatement was that men all men have this potentiality to be a

Brian Atlashaving testosterone coursing through your veins I have a different statement for you most men are good decent men that would never do something like that how about that we'd all like to think that yes most men are not out there

Brian Atlascommitting crime it's an apex fallacy you're looking at a small proportion of men I know that I know that most men are not I'm saying that they have the propensity too the the the criminality that does not mean that every man is

Brian Atlasdoing it but every man could I think sure anyone but any man or woman could commit any number great that men are more likely to that is just true I think let me ask you

Brian Atlasa question would you make that same argument if we change the conversation from sex to race is there a race that might be more likely to commit certain crimes yes

Brian Atlasyou're treading a little dangerously there no I'm sure you're okay when we're talking about I want you to be intellectually and logically consistent so yeah I want to hear more so yeah go on

Leah (Beret Girl)go ahead I talk about this all day this is my job if you're if you're not if you're trying to give me a bite like a racist bullet I'm not [ __ ] afraid to talk about statistics wait I actually want to know I'm just I'm actually

Brian Atlasinterested look okay I want to get back to kind of what I was and I feel like I've missed my place here a little bit first off most men are good men that would never

Brian Atlascommit such a heinous crime sure um but I do think it is a sexist statement to say that all men or most men have the potential to do that when I look at a

Brian Atlasman I don't see the potential to be a criminal when I I see I see positivity I see the good in men I don't see the bad in men most men

Leah (Beret Girl)are wonderful people I see the good in men also but that's true but you said were you all man you are like but okay you also live life as a man you don't

Brian Atlashave to be as afraid because you are not the weaker and smaller sex actually as a man I I ought to be more afraid of robbery and and yes men are more likely to be victims of violent crime if you

Brian Atlasand me are both walking down the street non-sexual violent crime men are not more likely to be victims of sexual yes but overall men are more likely to be if if we're looking at the entire umbrella men are much more like which is worse

Brian Atlashuh which is worse robbery or rape when you when you say robbery I'm talking about violent crime yeah violent crime would be armed robbery or salt

Brian Atlaswell it could also mean it could also mean getting into a street fight and having permanent brain damage sure but that's not most of what violent crime is mostly honestly if I can be honest with

Brian Atlasyou you're asking me a question would I rather be graped or be brutally beaten honestly without perhaps I get a little cut up or whatever I guess you left too

Brian AtlasI don't know whatever okay forever

Brian AtlasI would honestly this is kind of rather be assaulted like I would rather be S no I would rather be uh sexually assaulted then yeah then get a [ __ ] like

Leah (Beret Girl)traumatic brain injury sure but you're that's this is also this is physically assaulted this is a false dichotomy you're not most men who are but you ask me questions upon are not getting traumatic brains you asked me you basically I asked you a question

Leah (Beret Girl)would you move the goal post I asked you a question and you changed the question well you said would you rather be robbed or raped and you said yeah I'd rather be

Brian AtlasI'd rather be assaulted than have uh brain damage I know but see you you paired a very extreme sexual crime to a

Brian Atlasrobber like what what does a robbery entail they just take your if the question is would you rather be essayed or someone steals from you without hurting you please steal steal what I

Brian Atlashave however uh robbery to compare as as violent crime okay but but let's let's agree that there are degrees to both of these so

Brian Atlasthere's degrees to sexual assault and then there's degrees for example a guy could like uh non-consensually like I don't know put their hands on you

Brian Atlaslike spank you or whatever right that that's wrong but that's not as bad as for example like full-blown like grape right sure so you're but you're you're

Brian Atlasusing the most extreme and comparing it to robbery and I'm saying there are men hold on let me just finish there are men who are getting into street fights perhaps unintentionally or like they're getting like their [ __ ] heads stomped

Brian Atlason so I mean I would want you to compare two really extremes to the other so if the result of a hold on if the result of a of a violent interaction is me getting

Leah (Beret Girl)a traumatic brain injury versus me being penetrated I'm I'm gonna bro I'm talking we're talking about majorities so majority of violent crime that happens to men is not rape it's not even where

Leah (Beret Girl)you are maimed it's not where it is literally just aggravated assault or like you are getting uh robbed at gunpoint that is most of violent crime for men or you're getting punched

Brian Atlasviolent crime is like getting into some [ __ ] bull most of the violent crime propagated towards women by men is murder and rape

Leah (Beret Girl)they also they also Rob women but most of the violent crime created towards women by men is more extreme than the crime that you would experience as a man

Leah (Beret Girl)that is just true so I'm not you're giving me a false dichotomy and where you're I'm comparing two things that are the most likely the most likely thing to happen to men

Leah (Beret Girl)is for him to be robbed I disagree with that that is the most likely you are the to be aggressed upon you are more likely than anything else is just wiped by another man you are not

Leah (Beret Girl)like to be killed by another man as as much as you are to be robbed at gunpoint by another man I mean women are way less likely to be robbed than they are raped and killed do

Brian Atlasyou know that one of the one of the leading causes of pregnant women death is is homicide by their husbands and and since we're bringing up other things into the conversation do you know that

Brian Atlasyoung boys are more likely to be the victim of infanticide than young women I mean if we can bring it all over the world women are more likely to kill their children than men are really and

Leah (Beret Girl)and boys are more likely to be killed than Don or sons are more likely to be killed than daughters sure well you're talking about a crime that happens this frequently go back versus a crime that happens this frequently which one am I

Brian Atlastalking about infanticide well you brought up a totally unrelated thing so you brought up in fantaside yeah yeah okay look I want to try to bring it back to the

Julieoriginal thing yeah which way back I think you were talking about polygamy can I say one thing please I've been dying okay I think the issue where you guys both got off like you guys were

JulieReviving for a second and then it just and you were talking about testosterone which yes that does uh create aggression

Julieabsolutely however he was talking about like rape coming grape grape coming from I think you were like it's not from testosterone it's not it's it's more of

Juliea mind thing it's it doesn't mean that every single male is more inclined to do so because they have higher testosterone perhaps it's not about the testosterone and it's more of

Julielike okay well she's a female maybe being a Grapist is coming from a state of mind or a mental thing and not necessarily from well the mental thing would be how testosterone affects the

Leah (Beret Girl)brain true a man in any many sources sure many sources any man is more likely to rape someone than a woman and I'm not saying I agree or disagree any man is more likely to rape someone

Brian Atlasthan a woman is any man wait any man is more likely great to Grape someone any man

Brian Atlasif we're talking about are you saying probability any given man is there are women who are perfect of this crime but who commits 99 of her no I I would acknowledge that yes there are

Leah (Beret Girl)more men who do no problem why do you think it's there it's not a male problem it's a criminal problem it's a male problem it's a it's a male criminal problem there's a reason

TTS/Donationswhy 99 of grapes are propagated by men okay underscore under underscore essay donated 100 dollars check with black hat if you want to have a real debate get on

TTS/Donationsfresh and fit you will be easily dismantled on your beliefs if I don't see you there then I know you don't seriously believe what you think men also are more likely to experience

Leah (Beret Girl)violence okay so thank you there for the uh I'm more likely than women to experience violence men are more likely to experience violence than women in in

Brian Atlaslike on the street sure but no I thought if you literally look at all the crime statistics if you look at all the crimes in my brain it it registered as like

Brian Atlasdomestic cases well you just compare all crime statistics sure I realized what you're saying is true what I was wrong I was silly okay so we're going to move on from that I want to bring it

Brian Atlasback basically what kind of got this set off is I said that I don't believe that feminism is about equality and I wanted to push my point on that is because if I could give feminism the most

Brian Atlasgenerous definition uh I would say that feminism is feminism is a women's advocacy movement yes

Brian Atlasright and there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy however you can't say that it's an equality movement it's an equity movement no it's it's not

Brian Atlasany of these things feminism also feminism isn't a monolith well okay I'll get into that but basically feminism is a woman's advocacy movement

Brian Atlasin its most generous sense nothing wrong with women's advocacy however you cannot deny that feminism is a man-hating ideology I can deny that

Brian Atlaswell what is the core tenant of feminism the patriarchy Theory agree or disagree not necessarily is it to tendon to feminine is patriarchy to some people yes in some sex yes do you believe in the patriarchy

Brian Atlasyeah do you believe in the patriarchy Theory patriarchy Theory being that it exists sure I mean there's a yes well I would as far as theories go

Leah (Beret Girl)theories are not fact and I I would say that well it does we don't have to we don't have to really theorize only 25 of this is today only 25 of who is in Congress or I mean we've never had a

Brian Atlasfemale president but 25 of who's in whose Congress is female and that's today that's in 2023. that's another Apex fallacy you're looking at the top tier of men here let's you you want to take a look

Brian Atlasat who occupies the top positions of society the CEOs the politicians yes but here's where feminists don't like you don't consider that men occupy the worst

Brian Atlaspositions in society and I'm not just talking about in jobs

TTS/Donationsscrewed up she has issues with masculinity her words hate men her narrative is painful to Bear wish I was there woman are emotional manipulators

Brian Atlasand the Femme movement further damage the nuclear family I'm a man and I have self-con you can tell your audience has a lot of sex I mean that's an ad hominem attack it's

Leah (Beret Girl)I mean basically the feminist 101 oh it was actually a passive aggressive retort but fair enough okay so we were talking about patriarchy yeah

Brian Atlasyou're saying it was a fallacy no what was I saying actually you were saying it that what I was saying was a fallacy that 25 of who is oh Apex fallacy yes so

Leah (Beret Girl)you don't consider the met that men occupy the absolute worst positions I do consider that right but this idea that doesn't that's I I don't that like that has nothing to

Leah (Beret Girl)do with the patriarchy exists so a patriarchy would be a a a state it was ruled by men who primarily by men which passes off power to other men which is

Leah (Beret Girl)what we have lived in that's not true passes off power to other men yes and male interests and because of that because of bias because I mean that's that's why on the Supreme Court we want people from different backgrounds is

Leah (Beret Girl)because people will come in with their biases if most of the people who are in charge of the Free World sure are men their biases are going to be for men's Advantage they're not going to think about women they're not going to think about mothers they're not going to think

Brian Atlasabout female it's funny you mentioned that because we recently elected a woman to the Supreme Court and you talk about the patriarchy and you talk about men however if you know I if I sort of have a sense of where you're getting at if

Brian Atlaswe're talking about Roe v Wade being overturned there are more women who are pro-life than there are men yeah there's a lot of women who are pro-life I think everyone gets very caught up in in the

Brian Atlasin the abortion debate I think that that's a whole nother that's a morality I don't want to really go too far there but what this a lot of women will say well the overturning of Roe v Wade and trying to stifle women's access to

Brian Atlasabortion that is the patriarchy that is men imposing their will however do you think the patriarchy only do you think that so well this is your smart because I know

Leah (Beret Girl)you're going patriarchy doesn't just live through men we all feel it women could be misogynists men can be misogynist the patriarchy can live through women so

Brian Atlaswomen who are women are you saying they uphold the the Patriot look do we currently live in the patriarchy yes under patriarchy are women oppressed

Brian Atlasyes under patriarchy are men oppressors yes so are you oppressed in some ways

Leah (Beret Girl)how uh I think that I mean we talk about the sexual Revolution I think that um one form of Oppression that all women face is uh subjugation in the form of

Leah (Beret Girl)their sexuality I think that women are forced to perform their sexuality I think that women are forced to uh what do you mean by perform their sexuality like I think that women become

Leah (Beret Girl)sexual objects in the eyes of the patriarchy I think that a lot of men view themselves that way and I think that a lot of women are comfortable viewing themselves that way in turn objectify themselves and objectify other

Brian Atlaswomen I think that in a way that men are just not well that sounds like zero accountability to me but um I don't think so at all I think that I'm the first one to take accountability of what I have done for that well you're putting the blame on men for women

Brian Atlassexualizing themselves yeah in a patriarchy the blame would be on men well I feel like you can't really win with feminists either we're trying to stifle women's sexuality it takes teamwork encouraging it but it takes

Leah (Beret Girl)teamwork I think first men need to see women as human and there are others not their inferior others I think if men stop using most men don't view women in that way I would disagree with you

Brian Atlasbut that's I mean that's the bias isn't that a bit of a sexist statement to make that you think that I think men are sexist yeah well I suppose in some ways so I've you said you were oppressed how were you oppressed I just I just talked

Leah (Beret Girl)about that I talked about sexual subjugation but are you currently sexually subjugated yes certainly by your fiancee by my fiance no I think that there are individual players when we're talking

Leah (Beret Girl)about an ideology more we're talking about a political ecosystem that's different than individuals right I've already bit the both I don't think every man is patriarchal but I think that you think Society I think that the society I

Leah (Beret Girl)think that we are less so now than ever before but I think that Society I think that we are raised with patriarchal values so men need to either unlearn that they

Leah (Beret Girl)don't unlearn what what patriarchal values which are what that men are the head of the household that women should be submissive that women are incubators that women are [ __ ] toys

Brian Atlaswhy I don't think men necessarily have that view but so just on your first thing you're talking about the traditional relationship Dynamic where men are the leaders of their household but that's a Christian

Leah (Beret Girl)judeo-christian relationship Dynamic that's not necessarily like a even a natural language it's so funny bro I think everything is no they're loving

Juliethis everything everything's too black and white like if we just like it's so dramatic like it's not that dramatic you know what I'm saying I think it's a good conversation though no it is but I'm saying the

Juliereason why it's like that and like you guys are coming out because it's so black and white if you live in the a lot of people think in the gray you get what I'm saying sure okay so it's just interesting though that you

Brian Atlasbring up that point because men are in a position where like a lot of even feminist liberal women will have an expectation of men to lead I know and I think that that's deluded I

Leah (Beret Girl)think that that's not feminism when I've seen videos where you where a woman will call herself a feminist and then you ask her who should pay on the first date and they say well him that's not feminism that's patriarchy well right but so it's

Leah (Beret Girl)helpful but but that kind of goes back those are women who are most as feminists that is not feminism

Brian Atlaswould you take debate in high school it doesn't matter but no true responsible I mean basically you're saying well that's not actually true feminism but sure look that's also anecdotal sure I mean that's

Leah (Beret Girl)not your Shadow Boxing is what you're doing I don't think that my form of feminism doesn't think that I believe in I believe in gender abolition I believe in gender equality I'm not sure what gender abolition is it means

Brian Atlasnone of this [ __ ] it means there are two Sexes oh okay amen are you a Turf amen yeah okay um so I want to finish my point really quick on equality so

Brian AtlasI was basically saying I don't believe it's for equality feminism my most generous definition of it is it's a woman's advocacy movement I actually think it's a misandrous man-hating movement uh that also happens

Brian Atlasto do it it's um you speak like it's a monolith and it's not it pretty it pretty much is no it's not because pretty much it well here's why here's why okay feminism is in every single

Brian Atlasfeminism has seeped its claws into pretty much every single realm the mainstream media Journal hold on hold on hold on the mainstream media relax relax

Brian Atlasthe mainstream media journalism news organizations Academia corporations governments it's all feminism every single University of every single higher

Brian Atlaseducation whatever College University in this country has either a feminist study a gender studies or women's studies program in this country you know what they all teach they all teach the patriarchy Theory it teaches that men as

Brian Atlasa class are oppressors and women as a class are oppressed that if you teach someone if you teach a whole swath a whole generations of people that

Brian Atlasthey are oppressed and the other gender is to blame for that you're very anti-critical race theory is what I'm hearing also well I suppose but I don't really get

Brian Atlasinto that in this podcast but you you often hear this term system or systematics systemic systemic right I mean I don't know of any greater

Brian Atlassystem than the higher educational system in this country and like I said hold on but every single in fact it's a graduation requirement for a lot of

Brian Atlaspeople to take some sort of feminist study class feminism 101 and what they're taught in these classes and the majority of people who go to college are women it's like 60 women who go to college hold on let me just finish so

Brian AtlasI'm gonna so you basically have women who are going to University being indoctrinated in this man-hating ideology which is

Leah (Beret Girl)feminism it is a man-hating ideology and many I don't think that's feminism I think women are gaslighting each other into believing that that's feminism I think that that is real dictionary I

Leah (Beret Girl)think that's reactionary feminism to years of abuse rape uh mistreatment I think that that is not true feminism and I believe that there is a vested

Leah (Beret Girl)interest in liberals trying to feed this to Future Generations I think that that's capitalistic I don't I think that that's capitalism at work also when we talk about the sexual Revolution it

Leah (Beret Girl)does not benefit women that's not feminism the sexual Revolution only seeks to benefit a very small number of men right and that would be the hypergamous men that would be the top one percent of men right women are not

Leah (Beret Girl)happy that way that's not feminism this is a bastardized version of feminism that is has been taken from women and

Leah (Beret Girl)given to leftist Men Who have advantages in women being hypersexualized promiscuous um you know not treating their bodies

Leah (Beret Girl)like their their bodies like this is not that's not feminism this is something else entirely this is a bastardized version of this well again no true Scotsman fallacy but

Brian Atlasum so look and I want to finalize my whole thing as far as why I believe feminism is not about equality here's why because if

Brian Atlasfeminists will not fight for a component that's not the right word feminists will not fight for equality if said equality does not stand to benefit women

Leah (Beret Girl)so it's Equity so I know so there are there are certain times when hold on let me let me just finish my point really quick relax lady okay um

Brian Atlasif if I'm trying to articulate this properly feminists will not fight for equality if said equality does not reap a benefit to

Brian Atlaswomen so for example military conscription this is what I was just going to talk about we're talking about equity I I'm not really familiar with this term Equity like so Equity is to each their

Leah (Beret Girl)own need and it's taking into account that quality of females are different and so they need different things so if we were to go with the basis that we that both the Sexes has have equal

Brian Atlasdominion over the Earth but they are different different things are going to happen yes yes I believe that we are different so couldn't it be argued then I mean you mentioned that there's a gap in terms of

Brian Atlaspeople who are at the top of politics and the top of Corporations sure couldn't you argue that because of our differences that that pushes men to want to achieve

Leah (Beret Girl)I believe in a naturalistic patriarchy so I don't I think that patriarchy is naturally what we come to when there is a stronger bigger sex right that's tribalism that's Darwinism that's

Leah (Beret Girl)Evolution right the stronger biggest of the group is going to want dominion over the smaller group but what I I think that served a purpose in Neolithic times I don't think now in the

Leah (Beret Girl)post-technological age almost in the post-human age that the patriarchy needs to be so well defined right it made sense in the 50s or even before then even when we're talking the 1800s it made sense before you could do anything

Leah (Beret Girl)on the computer make your money on the computer doing podcasts right now you wouldn't hold up you you're not [ __ ] muscular six eight [ __ ] hunting things with Spears that's that's what a

Leah (Beret Girl)man is right so these gender roles well I disagree with that this patriarchy is unneeded and women are actually evolutionarily also very well suited to powerful positions were very agreeable

Leah (Beret Girl)we are very good at compromise we're very good communicators whereas men are unfortunately losing some value because a lot of it is Brute Force right post

Brian Atlastechnologically I why I mean I kind of reject a couple of your statements there which ones well I mean you say that men it's like Brute Force we're only attuned to physical labor well we know that

Leah (Beret Girl)women are on average have higher IQs than men we know that we're more agreeable we know that we have better communication skills we're more emotionally Adept that is true no women don't have hierarchy of them and I think

Leah (Beret Girl)it's actually cool no so the distribution for men men have high the distribution is more is more oscillated are you talking about great the great

Leah (Beret Girl)greater male variability so there is greater male variability so so but women are on average average higher IQ than men no the average is equal no here's the difference though there's more

Brian Atlashere's the difference there's more variability with men yeah no here's the difference here's the difference with IQ it's called the greater male variability so you have you have a higher proportion

Brian Atlasof hyper intelligent like very high IQ men but you also have really really dumb men you have a much higher proportion of

Leah (Beret Girl)really dumb men yeah so but the average is the same no the average no the average is higher the average is the same the average

Leah (Beret Girl)it's not true I don't know how to argue I don't know how to argue this it's not what you're saying is not true there there are more women I I would say that there are more

Brian Atlaswomen with higher IQs than men but there is greater variability than men I'm talking about the average here so at the middle I think I think you're right that there are more women in the

Brian Atlasmiddle that have higher IQs however if we're talking about genius level IQs yes but there are more men who are yes but who cares about those men those are the men that are going to be really

Nikki Shayshifting things I think you you don't think that we should cultivate genius what's up respectfully is the panel for you guys or whatever well I mean you guys are welcome to jump in if you want

Brian AtlasI mean we've had eight comments asking to move on so yeah respectfully yeah um so okay I will move on we need to do a couple super chats

Brian Atlasum maybe if you're down to come back sometime we can continue the debate I will just I want to wrap really quick on the whole equality thing so again my

Brian Atlaswhole thing is look with feminism if equality cannot be reaped feminist will not fight for it so equality that for example perhaps comes at the detriment of women even if it's equality

Leah (Beret Girl)and honestly even if it's equity even if it's Equity or even if it's equality feminists won't fight for it there are no Solutions there were only trade-offs okay so I understand what

Leah (Beret Girl)you're saying right when we talk about like the military thing when we talk about like a draft hmm women would not be involved in a draft right to be though no they ought to you pull the microphone closer

Brian Atlastowards you and tilt it up no yes they are cannot be so you're telling me that we live in the patriarchy where women are oppressed however men have been throughout all of human history have

Leah (Beret Girl)been put through the meat grinder of war and have been the cannon fodder there are trade-offs there are no Solutions there are only trade-offs I understand that the patriarchy would also oppress men and also it is just a material

Leah (Beret Girl)reality that it kind of sucks to be a man if you're upholding the patriarchy it also sucks that you guys get the brunt of the stick but with great power comes great responsibility okay do you think uh an average man is upholding a

Brian Atlassupposed patriarchy no okay so I think some patriarchal values certainly but not the patriarchy but you you would you you think that women should not be subject to military conscription

Leah (Beret Girl)hold on well that's not Equity or women are subjected to being the people who literally bring in the next Offspring generationally I think that we're doing okay with our jobs our

Brian Atlasbiological imperatives are pretty much taking care of there's not there's not government compelled pregnancy maybe there should be I doubt you would be in favor of that

Brian Atlasyeah I'm not um but look look here I don't think there should be War we're talking about patriarchy we're talking about women are oppressed men are the oppressors look

Brian Atlasit's my position that if if you want to play the suppression game I'm perfectly depressed by patriarchy also right but this idea that men have it easy and that

Brian Atlasmen are the oppressors and women are the oppressed I don't think men have it I'm about what what I'm prepared to say that men are more oppressed than women

Brian Atlasin certain ways I would agree no I would I would say speaking men are more oppressed than women the the worst outcomes in life occur more to men than they do to women the worst outcomes mean the worst

Brian Atlasoutcomes like poverty suicide homelessness yes that's uh being conscripted to go to war is quiet patriarchy affects both of us in different ways I don't think it's a competition there is no patriarchy the

Leah (Beret Girl)world's evils affect us in different ways I don't think it's a competition of whether or not you're more oppressed or I'm more oppressed if you want to be a men's rights activist go ahead be a men's rights activist I will support you

Leah (Beret Girl)what do you mean go ahead I already am okay slay I will support you I will say I'm against you know certain forms of circumcision I'm again I want to find out that's a great that's actually a

Brian Atlasgreat example circumcision immediately upon birth men are this is something that only impacts men as a baby men are are circumcised well

Leah (Beret Girl)that's not something that only affects it's in the west certainly but female circumcision is pervasive in other countries I mean yes there is female circumcision but

Brian Atlasno but it's like look as soon as soon as birds in this country they are they are uh mutilated upon birth yeah I mean like we can

Brian Atlas[Music] I'll just leave it men are more oppressed than women change my mind you can't do it men are more oppressed than women it is what it is I just I think playing the oppression

Brian AtlasOlympics is a little gauche gauche yeah yeah gauche just meaning tacky oh okay you're speaking French okay yeah because gauche means I should know this

Brian Atlasit's French it's French um I would say though if you're criticizing this oppression Olympics thing like men really like

Brian Atlasdidn't bring this up but maybe you should that's the patriarchy at work you can't bring it up no no that's not what I'm saying I'm saying like when you basically have feminism doing its best

TTS/Donationsto like oh my God hold up Daniel donated 100 I paid 100 bucks is it going down everyone and ask you if we can move on from her and let her chat wait Eric show

Brian Atlasus the chat stream is going downhill fast Daniel think for the 200 appreciate it yo chat one in the chat if you want me and Beret to uh continue having a debate on feminism and

Frankie Dutrapatriarchy or two in the chat let's bring it back to dating also I have a bunch of [ __ ] TTS and uh well Bray I have a question for you you said girls shouldn't get drafted aren't you all about for like equality

TTS/Donations100 Beret go to Afghanistan they want us to move on Play Sports

TTS/DonationsChat is over this stupid girl due to Cam's everywhere woman increasing in crap I'd crushed this topic in 20 minutes men fight Wars okay men fight

Leah (Beret Girl)words a dog okay last thing it's not going to be the last thing no it's gonna be the last thing it's gonna be the last thing I swear to God that's your podcast take it by the balls thank you appreciate it

Brian Atlasum I'm like subscribe Julia Sandoval don't don't subscribe to her only fans okay um Julia Lynn Sandoval on Instagram all right so last thing and then I'll move it on so

Leah (Beret Girl)a military conscription look at she's she's like head butting the [ __ ] because I know that I did it first I know what you're gonna say You're Gonna repeat yourself for the fifth time or you're like I don't really know what Equity means and I'm like okay well no I

Brian Atlashave one point and then we're gonna move on so last thing here is we can talk about Grievances and can you stop okay we can talk about grievances we can

Brian Atlastalk about oppression look ultimately my view is is that you know women often say oh the wage Gap this I have this grievance over here grievance over there

Brian AtlasI can't uh mansplaining man spreading whatever all of women's Collective grievances are

Brian Atlasovershadowed by one Soul grievance of men and that is forced military conscription sure so well I don't think that forced military conscription was that well

Brian AtlasWarfare Warfare has been let's say forced upon the vast majority of men I suppose there are some volunteers also however you can make the

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