BANNED?! Pastor Turned ØF Girl vs. Justin Waller, Chase | Dating Talk #73

Date: 2023-05-10

Duration: 3h 55m

Guests

Brian Atlas

NNicole Mitchell >

KKirsten (DT76)>

BBrianna (DT73)>

CChase (DT118)>

JJustin Waller >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Nicole Mitchell(guest)

SPEAKER_02Crew(audience)

SPEAKER_03Gisele(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kirsten(guest)

SPEAKER_05Elle(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lila Rose(guest)

SPEAKER_07Justin Waller(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Chase(guest)

SPEAKER_10Brianna(guest)

SPEAKER_12Madison(audience)

SPEAKER_13Dominique(guest)

Key Moments

IntroNicole Mitchell introduces herself as "the pastor turned stripper" and OnlyFans creator, age 39.

IntroJustin Waller introduces himself: real estate/construction, age 37.

QuoteBrian announces he was permanently banned from Hinge for using it to recruit show guests; shares tip on getting refund via Apple App Store.

QuoteKirsten reveals she makes ~$70,000/month on OnlyFans (top 0.09%); says she would quit if her boyfriend earned enough for her to be a stay-at-home partner.

QuoteKirsten shares Lyme disease story: diagnosed after 9 months of debilitating illness, recovered via holistic doctor in Indiana.

QuoteDominique leaves show twice and returns notably less sober each time; panel suspects bathroom substance use; she claims she drank sink water.

QuoteChase reveals he has been celibate for 3 years to honor God; body count is 7.

ControversyJustin Waller calls Lila Rose "annoying in a goody two-shoes type way" after repeated questioning about his relationship structure.

QuoteJustin Waller states he supports banning pornography in America and credits Dubai's porn block for creating more visible family life there.

QuoteChase reveals he suffered from Lyme disease for 28 years, inherited from his mother who died by suicide from it when he was in high school.

QuoteElle reveals a triple-digit body count (~150-193), noting the majority of her partners were women.

QuoteNicole Mitchell states she does not track her body count; confirms it is under 100 and declines to be more specific, having been married for 12 years.

Topics Discussed

Introductions and announcements

Brian Atlas introduces guests; announces Hinge ban; guests give name, age, occupation, relationship status.

Relationship structures: monogamy, non-monogamy, polygamy

Nicole Mitchell discusses post-divorce sexual liberation and non-monogamy; Justin Waller discusses keeping multiple women while being exclusive on their side; Lila Rose and Chase argue for traditional monogamous marriage; debate on polygamy in the Bible.

OnlyFans, sex work, and society

Panel debates whether OnlyFans empowers or degrades women; body count discussion; Kirsten and Elle share income (~$70k/month and $30k-100k/month respectively); Justin Waller attributes OF proliferation to masculine decline.

Pornography debate and masculinity crisis

Discussion of pornography addiction weakening men; multiple panel members support banning porn; Chase and Justin discuss War Room and building strong men; Lila Rose cites Alfred Kinsey's research as flawed agenda.

Religion, Christianity vs Islam debate

Chase and Lila Rose debate Catholicism vs Protestant Christianity; discussion of Pope Francis; Justin Waller on Andrew Tate's conversion to Islam; Chase wants to bring Tate back to Christianity; debate on whether Christianity has become too weak.

Self-ratings, STIs, and sex ed

Panel rates own looks 1-10; extended debate on STI stigma with Nicole defending destigmatization and Brian/Chase pushing back; Kirsten shares Lyme disease recovery story; Chase shares his Lyme disease history.

Body count discussion

Panel shares body counts; Elle reveals triple digits (~150-193); Dominique leaves and returns appearing intoxicated; Justin's preferred body count limit for relationship candidates.

Building strong men, fatherhood, and closing remarks

Chase and Justin discuss how to fix masculinity crisis; Justin discusses fatherhood and War Room; discussion of ideal age to have kids; closing remarks.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasphysical but the few passionate times stay in my heart word Milky Way Moses so sad that's what's happening right now I mean

Justin Wallerit's kind of Simply a few passionate times stay on my heart that's a grown man that just said that but he's I mean

Justin Wallerthe first part's pretty horrible though that's a lot of kids are are running into that because of the proliferation of porn so yeah but I can't believe you saw it when he was three like there was new magazines and DVDs and [ __ ] in our

Justin Wallerparents everywhere now I get it I get it but like even we had internet at like 16 17 like the the real problem with porn is that there's no motivation to go like you said there's no motivation to go out

Justin Wallerand get in the real world and I think when that drug is easier than working hard enough and being scared of the rejection is having to do all the work that's what the problem with porn is it's it's stopping guys it's stopping guys from being hungry enough to go seek

Justin Wallerthe actual facts which it is sleeping with the beautiful girl not not Jack after the image and only fans even made it to where you can text into the mic and have it right but in all fairness but in all fairness a smart girl is

Justin Wallergoing to have somebody else text for I mean I'm sure that it's hard for you to text to everybody no she texts all her people okay yeah they have like

Justin Waller50 people yeah yeah but but otherwise you know somebody else will be doing it for her so is that how many subscribers you have 50 000 yes for 70k a month

Kirstenrecharging them like a dollar fifty no no it's a free page I make all my money through my messages and post mine's a free page as well learn from her to do that all right okay bro so a lot of these

Brian AtlasBros that are talking to models on only fans are probably talking to dude dudes man it is over yep well I mean wasn't I'm pretty sure like Tate when he had his campsites he I mean him and his brothers were they were

Brian Atlasthe ones telling them yo give me your life savings yeah uh well Haram uh let's see here we have uh Lucia

Brian AtlasChristie thanks for the uh I didn't see the I I wasn't looking at the country chick said the Catholic religion is satanic it goes all the way back to Babylon religion that Nimrod

Brian Atlasstarted in the Old Testament the Catholics were torturing Bible Believers in the New Testament Fox's book of Martyrs PS highly recommend something Dr Ruckman commentary okay uh country chick thank

Brian Atlasyou uh inaccurate I mean I don't understand how the Catholic Church could be torturing people in the New Testament that doesn't make sense all right we have uh Lucia

Brian Atlashere thank you for the uh six yo where did the girl is

Chaseall right I'll carry it Brian Q I am not a fan of makeup since I find it creepy especially fake eyelashes and so on but my friends have been convincing me to wear makeup because it's appealing to

Chasemen is it true because now I don't feel confident about myself Chase thanks for spreading God's word you're welcome Lucia be you like do you be you you're gonna attract a person's attract

Chaseyou know special occasions but typically men like more natural looks yeah Lucia I'll speak I'll speak from personal experience I don't know what Justin's opinion is I find natural beauty extremely attractive

Chaseuh I I think fake eyelashes look ridiculous I don't think it's attractive at all what do you think Justin I think natural beauty is incredible if you have to do something yeah you know maximize

Elleit you look so much better without your makeup yeah and and this is coming from this is coming from somebody that pursued the makeup industry and I can tell you right now I know for a fact

Ellewhenever I would work at a strip club or take pictures on my of I would always go a more natural route because it there it looks like over compensation and for me even even going from

Elleum the Midwest in like Ohio and then going to Los Angeles California there's a there's a higher there's a higher par like I could be uh I could be a 10 in Ohio and be a three here and and that

Ellethat's not me degrading myself as a woman that's just me recognizing that the value of women here is at a different standard than where I'm from because there's more resources for that

Ellesort of thing and I personally and I I want everyone woman to to do whatever makes them feel the best version of

Ellethemselves so if you if you want to you know get enhancements or get like this is not my real hair I really didn't admit that but like

Elleyes to all of that do you be you yeah do you guys sit down whatever you're comfortable with you know it's giving me anxiety when people stand up around me

Brian Atlasyou going to the bathroom Chaser okay trying to get down to the bottom of what's going on okay um where were we I don't I don't know I lost did we read this one from our good

Brian Atlasfriend in Indonesia yeah yeah yeah I think for the 1600 uh Indonesian what is it rupees I don't know thank you um she's not a fan of makeup since I already did that one yeah I was just

Brian Atlasjust because I wasn't here um by the way yeah makeup girl I'm not a fan of makeup you're beautiful all right Minnesota Liz did we do this one or no no you want a warrior in a garden not a

Lila Rosegardener in a war men should have a sharp sword and be capable of violence I agree thank you uh Minnesota Liz appreciate it I think the ideal man is somebody who is

Lila Roseprepared for the crisis yes and who has a mission and that mission is service of others and to make the world better and to serve God and so they need to be prepared for challenges.com they need to be prepared

Lila Rosefor violence because violence is in this world unfortunately but at the end of the day they're trying to be bring peace into the world in the way that they love and serve and build strong communities and build strong families so yes you

Chaseneed to be prepared for violence but not be inciting it yes I would say every man should be capable of protecting his family and his loved ones at a moment's notice this is very important

Brian AtlasI think any human should be capable of that does anyone have wait so how long have you been gone me yeah in the bathroom yeah in the bathroom

Madisonso into the mic please okay tell us about your bowel movement okay sir I will tell you so I went to

Brian Atlasokay how long were you in there you were she was gone for what like 40 minutes no it was an hour I've had to pee for an hour really you've been has she been you've been out of your seat for an hour

Madisonno I have not no because you came tinkle when I was in there wait she was in there what was she doing

Dominiquein there while you were I think your makeup I had just finished doing my tinkle so then I um put on a little bit of lipstick and then

Justin Wallerum I brush my eyebrows and this girl is [ __ ] up bro what did you do in there definitely like bro what your sobriety level is so low right what drugs are you

Chaseon right now I am a high on life no you're high on something else you're high on her no come on I don't do drugs oh come on I

Brian Atlasdon't do drugs as someone who doesn't do drugs does anyone want to take a a wager at what drugs she's currently on I've got a few ideas how would I have done my

Brian Atlasmakeup if I was on drugs first of all it's possible I were in the bathroom

KirstenI had a party phase in high school it's possible I have ocds it doesn't always look the best but it is I have OCD so I had a Rio organize the door back and

Chaselike put it into the mic into the mic closure towards it okay sir Dominique I gotta be honest when we started this show your sobriety was like here then you went to the bathroom and then your sobriety was like here you came back you

Chasewent to the bathroom again now your sobriety is like here like both times you've come back from the bathroom you've been less sober so no that's the story here okay you want to know the story yeah tell us the story I want to know

Dominiquethe story so I went to the restroom and gold so sometimes it's like a little hard for me to like be

Dominiquelike so I drink a little bit more water um and like who do you think your phone this is embarrassing but I drink a little sink water because I didn't want to come back out and get a cup you drink

Brian Atlaswhat water she said she drinks sink water drinks sink water because I didn't want to bro your sink water got her [ __ ] up dude I didn't want to go back out and get my cup and like interrupt

Brian Atlasconfirm or deny is their fentanyl on the toilet seat

Dominiquewhy did you say if I did the drug I wish you guys could see Justin if I did the drug fentanyl I would be dead because like I would OD and die in

Dominiquethe bathroom so what what did you what did you take what drug did you take would you take oh my God okay I feel so attached right now do you think you're okay I don't I think you're a very smart man

DominiqueI also I also was looking at my ring from my um proposal and I was admiring it also

Dominiquein the Box it's not on the right finger for proposal yeah it's in them I know I had to change it because this one's too tiny and it was gonna fall and I didn't want it maybe your hands are shaking a little bit maybe your blood sugar is like [ __ ] up you need

Brian Atlaslike you want to I've got some Source Victoria can you please grab the Sour Patch Kids for her she's either her blood sugar's low or she's on methamphetamine

Dominiquechat give us your best guesses what drugs if I was on meth my pupils would be dilated first of all my stepmom is an

Dominiqueanesthesiologist so I know everything about every drug I'm low-key like fly through her like I am a low-key like

Chaseoff the market like anesthesiologist I think I'm getting a contact tie I'm like feeling it too a little bit okay I would I would guess either heroin

Chaseor oxycontinence or xanax that's what I was thinking what talking that's fine me naming them

Nicole Mitchellum first of all what's TOS Eric from being incredibly [ __ ] up on this live stream I am not Eric what is TOS you're okay don't let him get to you serious

Chaseactivities oh whatever oh okay I won that's fine TOS can get you back I like how everybody but hers eating the

Brian Atlassour patches right now okay so look hey hey Dominique you should eat some of these you should eat these I think her blood sugar is low Dominique I don't think she's on methamphetamine I think her blood sugar dominates you should eat

Dominiquesome of these if I was on a drug like meth my peoples would be extremely dilated if I was on a drug like fentanyl or heroin they would be so pinpoint my

Dominiquepupils are none of the above oh no you haven't blinked for the past like 30 minutes oh okay my bad my bad to be fair her eyes do look the same thing

Dominiqueif you guys felt my heart rate it's not like I will gladly feel your heart rate yes your wrist please you may

Dominiqueand then I was also responding to my driver yes you have a you have a chauffeur yeah because she's taking the ring off

Dominiquegood idea no no box I'm putting it back in the finger that it goes on well because I was okay so like because remember how I got like a

Dominiquespeeding ticket so then he switched and started driving for me that's really nice of him yeah it was Victoria do we have any other snacks

Lila Roseback there like some fruits

ChaseDominique can I ask you a question you want to know the truth I don't either so if you have an orange bad for you anyways if you have an orange I I have I

Chasehave oranges there's an orange on the counter Victoria Victoria there's oranges in the bag over there yes this is vegan not Victoria stage Justin what did you find

Elledid you find any uh paraphernalia okay I want everybody in the chat just to to look at the time right now because I'm about to actually go take this

Dominiquewait no no orange [Music]

Dominiqueyes of course I share sharing is caring there are no oranges don't do the oranges I'm not gonna open the orange at the table of course you should just bite straight into it no it would get

Dominiqueeverywhere and like make everything dramatic is there like a knife do whatever podcast has officially gone off the rails off the [ __ ] rails okay is this a dating yeah well I mean we've

Brian Atlastaught we've been straying from the dating oh they looked here trying to give me an interview I think honestly send her home no I mean what are we gonna do just sit

Dominiquehere focusing on how inebriated I am not inebriated guys I'm not even slurring my speed you're good you're good thank you okay can you

Justin Wallerat least confirm or deny was it was it bath salts yeah I'm gonna eat a guy's face off on basalts Justin's right here you're not

Chasenearly big enough to eat my face off thank you you don't got hands I'm small I'm not I'm not I think she's safe we're I'm not worried about her all right here let's bring it back to this she's safe I

Brian Atlasdon't know about Lila though keep your face safe don't let it don't want to read it he's fine all right let me get the soup chat here um free fall here hey it's all don't trip don't even worry

Brian Atlasabout it babe honey honey don't worry I got you it's all good okay thanks I got you it's all good okay um free fall think for the hundred Brian it's mostly men that laugh at me several

Brian Atlaslaughed in my face during a date because I don't know much sexual things I feel that men nowadays want an OS style girl to get off and have no attachments I want to get married have my dad approve of him have babies be happy I mean yeah

Brian Atlasthere's definitely dudes that are just like looking the [ __ ] that might laugh at you in that situation but Lionel what hold on hold on hold on let me just finish so uh by the way just point of clarification

Brian Atlasare you waiting until marriage or you're just not trying to [ __ ] like first date can you clarify if you're waiting like are you waiting until you're in love are you waiting into three months do you

Nicole Mitchellhave are you virgin are you waiting to marriage clarify I just want to say too like even though I do adult work I'm still very naive and my fans still crack up when I don't know something

Nicole MitchellI'm not made fun of I'm not made to be less than it's like they find it endearing so I'm sorry these men are making fun of you and you don't have to like go have all these experiences to

Nicole Mitchellvalidate your womanness this is like be you and you'll find men who will honor that you don't know that much that's okay

Lila Rosefor free fall so I dated all through my 20s and I have a lot of friends who you know different experiences but the bottom line I think would be this is that have boundaries about the kind and standards about the kind of guy that

Lila Roseyou'll even date and obviously when you're first getting to know them you don't know but once they start start coming on to you sexually pushing your boundaries just say okay I'm done and move on to the next um maybe open yourself up to another

Lila Roseopportunity for somebody that is more noble that respects you more respects themselves more because that's what you're worth that's what your dignity is you have dignity and you deserve a guy who's going to fight for you and he's going to have high virtue and you're

Brian Atlasgoing to continue to grow your own virtue so that's what I would say don't don't waste too much time with those losers amen can I touch on that as well uh sure sure go ahead let me just read this really quick Rippy uh homegirl got

Dominiquestones in the bathroom yeah I smoked weed in the bathroom but it doesn't smell like wait did you smoke weed in the bathroom no I'm being facetious because it would smell like

Dominiqueweed it was like one of those Vapes that's like I don't know I don't have a vape wheat pen I do have a nicotine Vape like um are you like disassociating

Lila Roseright now like what's going on this is nicotine hello go ahead Elle I am not are you disassociating all right fair enough okay um you need a little couch for people to

Elletake a break go ahead with your point um I was just gonna say that like in the same on the opposite side of the spectrum as a single girl that does of

Elleguys completely discredit me the second they find out what I do and I I based I know I'm not I'm not saying I'm not in the point in my life where I'm like oh yeah I need I need a boyfriend I'm just saying like it can be just as difficult

Elleon the other opposite side of the spectrum so don't don't put yourself down or compare yourself because if you compare yourself to other people then it takes the gratification out of your own your own success your own happiness it's

Lila Rosenot worth it you're very smart I can tell and do you do you want to be a role model for other people ultimately is that something that you'd like to be of course and I believe that I can do both

Elleand it not be a degrading like me not I'm not I'm not degrading Myself by by I'm gonna get women are going

Lila Rosedo you think that the dream of a young girl

Elleshould be to be an only fan I think that a young woman should have a choice to do what she wants with her body and that it shouldn't be frowned

Elleupon to do whatever means necessary to be independent and that's my opinion and you don't have to agree with it and you don't have to agree with the way that I make my money and you reserve that right for yourself and I respect that opinion

Lila RoseI do I think it's powerful that you are allowed to have that opinion but I don't think that I need to agree to it or co-sign it but I think we all just had this conversation Chase was talking about asking questions I think we were kind of all mostly agreeing maybe not

Lila Roseevery single person but most of us were agreeing that you know porn has really hurt Society at large and we wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a man who looked at porn a lot of men on only fans are fans are married men who are looking at the porn and their wife is

Justin Walleryou know they're being cheated on basically so I mean that role model that you want to be all right then it's news job to step up and take the market away it's back to what I said earlier men have always led the world why are we

Justin Wallergoing to act like this woman's false now if there was no platform for her to make this kind of money on she she wouldn't be doing it if men were better she would be with a different man it is men's job to take this responsibility and stop

Justin Wallersubscribing to it not the girl's fault because the girl has no man to get under and get behind and believe in no man to marry no man to be submissive to and so the only thing that's out there is for her to make money with his easy way because he's weak ass [ __ ] dudes okay

Lila Roseall right hold on hold one quick thing one thing I really appreci about what you're saying Justin is that you're saying men need to take responsibility men should take responsibility which is not a new thing it's always been this way so for us to flip it on the chicks

Lila Rosenow I think is dumb agree but I would just argue that women are strong we have agency we can make decisions I agree with some of the language coming out of the side of the table that we make decisions we make choices we should use

Lila Rosethat power for what end right it's not like men of all the power women have no power of choice women have the power to decide the standards that we hold ourselves to and that we hold men to and the kind of women we want to be and the

Chasekind of role models we want to be for the next Generation right and so I agree so here's my question Justin do you think a woman yeah we can get to let Chase speak Justin do you think a woman

Justin Walleris being a good role model by doing only fans for the younger Generations no I think she's doing what she has to do like to do only no no she doesn't no she doesn't but when she has the option of

Justin Wallerbeing a look and I'm not tell you like taking up for only fans girls not on my agenda but when you look at it she's either going to go do a job where she makes no money or she makes seventy thousand dollars a month or I make less

Chasemoney than a man does doing the same job I mean she's well I disagree with that I I don't I don't think there's wage Gap is BS but she makes six grand a month she could find a job where she makes six

Ellegrand a month it's not like I have other jobs that I've done before where I make way more than six grand a month but that doesn't mean that I can't so why would you stop it

Justin Wallerwhat my point is is that not so much to defend the only fans girl but to empower young men to be stronger more capable so a lot of these girls can find a man that they want to

Chaseget behind instead of getting behind a screen and selling porn that's basically and Justin hold on Lila I agree with that point yeah that like men need to become stronger so that you know women can get behind them and so they don't

Chasehave to feel like they have to resort to doing only fans but like it's gonna take a while for us to change a generation of men into becoming let's do it because we want to do it hold on into becoming into becoming strong to the point where women

Justin Wallerdon't have to resort to doing only fans right it's going to take a while yeah and the truth is that if we took porn away from young men that they would be incentivized to go become that strong

Justin Wallerman I'm all for getting rid of porn I'm all for them I love that and everybody in our everybody in this space there were a lot of people in this space would would

Justin Wallernaturally easy decision almost 100 out of 100 say get rid of porn I'm all how could we do that like how that's a great question well that that gets to like a governmental level yeah I mean we'd have

Justin Wallerto legislate legislate them well I think it's it I think there's legislation that can be done to ban porn because they think it is but that's that would go back to making the United the United States of America have its Christian

Lila Rosebackgrounds come and stand up to the point where people would go vote for it in that way but I think the other thing the other thing too is it kind of takes a leap of faith as women because if culture is demanding from us right I

Lila Rosemean that's what you guys are we're dealing with cultures we're swimming in is sexually objectifying women rewarding women for sexually objectification right and so but I I do think there's a rule

Lila Roseof personal responsibility that women were not doomed to anything we can make any choice we want and we can start over we can do walk a different path and we can be the women that we dream to be

Ellethat isn't just making you know money on the internet one way we can I am the woman I dream to be I've arrived and I'm so happy with her younger me would look at me in a grocery store now and be like oh my God she's so

Ellehot like I want to be her when I grow up I wouldn't even question it but I also just want to say like who out of the women here who's been cat called before in public

Elleum I'm just saying like if if a woman is going to get sexualized she might as well do it in a controlled environment where she can make profit and I'm sorry that's the way I feel I love it uh I

Kirstenmean you're putting if there's a difference between being cat called though and like actually like putting your [ __ ] tits on the internet yeah you are completely putting yourself you're asking you're asking well I'll tell you another thing you're doing it

Justin Walleragain you're hype you're you're inflating your vagina and your titties because if it's out there for the world to see it's like it's kind of like you're taking yourself off the gold standard of like the secrecy of like sex and relationships like a man that's

Justin Wallergonna marry you probably wouldn't want your titties on the internet for every other man in the world to see so like when you said you were when you got married you're gonna take it down like I think that's probably ideal for for the marriage I mean they probably do the same but it's on the same count all her

Lila Roseher shit's probably leaked all over the Internet yeah no it always be there it'd always be there but like I think one of the biggest problems in society is that we've cheapened sex that sex is just something that's thrown around it's just

Lila Roselike this commodity it's literally sold and I think sex is supposed to be something it is something sacred and beautiful and amazing and it's designed for two people who are just passionately

Lila Rosein love and committed to each other publicly for life and also sex can bring human beings into the world and it does and so that's the other thing that was not even really talked about a lot at the stable but sex can bring human beings into the world so we should be

Dominiquehaving sex in relationships that are prepared to be can I can I say amen and that'll make a society and happier okay sex okay sex is like an exchange of

Dominiqueenergy excuse me it's an exchange of energy between two people so like when you have sex with someone like you're really like into the mic

Dominiquewhen you have sex with them with someone you're like exchanging energy with that person oh no you exchanged some energy with whatever drugs you're on right now that's why what about it though what about the exchange of energy

Briannabut I do have to say something for the men and women you for sure for sure um what you got for us oh girls we need to be better role

Briannamodels for the younger generation and guys yeah you have a girlfriend at home you're looking at only fans you're a sad boy yes oh wow okay you love ecstasy

Brian Atlasdid anybody else hear ecstasy I got an exit statement because she's leaving if you're into the MDMA it's all good okay um question before you leave because I wanted to get everyone's on this trying to maybe we'll come back to what we're

Brian Atlastalking about let's talk a little bit about body count here because it's dating show dating podcast hello um body count uh should body count matter just should body count matter yes better in what way I guess is my

Brian Atlasquestion it's very important for what well for example uh typically you hear men preferring women who have a low body count do you object to men caring about

Kirstenbody count you can care about whatever you want like but it doesn't mean I care about it fair enough yes and no I mean I I don't know I feel like I've always been just like if you

Kirstensleep around with people like you're you're going to be looked down upon and I feel like just for that reason it's like that's just been like instilled it to me it's like I I don't sleep around because it's like that's always been instilled that's frowned upon I think

Giseleit's frowned upon for good reason or no I agree yeah J Dog what you got for us scientifically I understand why it does matter scientifically but you think it

Giseleshouldn't matter I mean no purely just based on science alone it does and it should okay um

Briannait matters I wouldn't want to date a pig into the mic into the mic it matters you wouldn't want to date a pig yeah what do you have against pigs [Music]

Briannacute man I just want to hug her every time she talks some guys are just very pigs you know so oh oh okay I would not want to sleep with someone or be with someone who has a very high body count

Elleokay and you and you say that like like you wouldn't want to sleep with a man that has a high body count because most men commend each other whenever they they get laid you know yeah my I've asked my boyfriend about his body count it's very low so your thoughts should

Ellebody count matter do you object to men caring about body count all right all right what about you you ever [ __ ] about body count when I date women I don't care if they have a high

Dominiquebody count bro I'm gonna null this [ __ ] marriage okay what do you um oh okay I think body count matters a lot

Dominiquewhy profound because like I said sex is very important like who you have sex with is really

Dominiqueimportant and your body count should not be high because if you're exchanging energy with like a lot of different people you're you don't know who you're

Dominiquelike you're spreading it you don't yeah you don't know who it is and so it's like question four as a woman wait just real quick question you said your body count shouldn't be

Dominiqueit shouldn't be high your body count should be low as low as possible all right okay uh what about you what your thoughts what do you guys think I'm

Lila Rosegonna say I think body count should be one person if you get married and that's the person that you marry preferably and I don't really like term body count because it sounds like dead bodies after sex when sex is supposed to be beautiful

Brian Atlasand life-giving and amazing between one two people in a marriage so anyways yeah I suppose we could change it to like how many people you've had sexual intercourse but I'll say one more thing I think I think

Lila Roseno matter how high anybody's body count is there can be a start over point where you decide I'm not going to keep living that way I'm going to live a different

Brian Atlasway and that that change is possible I'm sorry but once you've slept with like 100 dudes it's I don't care if you're born again I mean Mary Magdalene is one of the greatest Saints of all time and

Lila Roseshe actually was the first first person she was a host she was home she was description I looked into this it was resurrected like a week and a half ago has it

Lila Roseactually been proven that she was like a prostitute tradition says that there is a tradition that says yes she was involved in prostitution that's fine but I prefer a virgin over a born-again virgin especially if she was a

Elleprostitute especially if she was a problem

Chaseso I I freaking brought this apple and orange and you guys have just been groping it all night off the table yeah okay

Dominiqueyou guys are the ones trying to force you feed me food saying that I was on drugs and I wasn't yeah just admit it okay you still want that Apple just put the apple on the ground yes can we just

Brian Atlaslike no actually wasted my fruits so listen to me guys one sec one sec one sec before you leave one sec really

Brian Atlasimportant Dominique right that's your name right not letting you marry Brian hold on it's Dominique it's French my name is Dominique yeah so I'm French

Brian Atlasand Cuban that's beautiful I do not speak French can you sit can you you don't need to stand up to put that they can't even sit down lady my head watch look no but just sit and balance

Dominiquewhat am I doing here sit in the chair watch and you think I could do the orange on top oh gosh what is this just

Nicole Mitchellnever mind okay um I did it we were talking about body count what's your body count oh I'd have to sit and count through because it's not important for me to

Briannakeep track of range over 20 less than 20 years oh more than my fingers for sure your 20s

Gisele100 you want to get to 100 oh I'd love to get as many people in my lifetime as possible Haram that's my favorite compliment thank you

Briannawhat's your body count six oh I'm the same uh six I'm out of respect for my boyfriend I will not be saying that um

Briannado it just do it so what's your body count

Briannas

Elleuh wait four yeah okay what about you out of respect for my boyfriends I I won't say it [Laughter]

Elleso what what's your body count go just own it just Own It own it just Own It own it you both know what it is I was really bored in Ohio you guys and

ElleI've also I also don't have gender like ruling me out okay it's just a whole lot is it triple digit yeah I don't know

Ellequadruple digits I don't know what no I'm only 21. holy how am I supposed to get here yeah give me like one more but I mean no I'm joking I'm joking but

Ellelike I do sleep with men and women so like and in between so like what just what's what's the number I don't know the number like dead ass like I would tell you the number if I knew I'm not gonna do the weirdos that [ __ ] writes

Brian Atlas150 range maybe so you lost okay around 120 triple is it triple digits

Brian Atlasyour friend is saying yes so I mean triple digits triple digits love you

Chasewhat is going on Nick did you share your body count oh I said I don't have a number because I don't keep tracks it's not important to me would you say it's under no I said 100 I think that sounds amazing but no

Chaseit's not happening it's under 100 or above what if it's 66

Nicole Mitchellprobably not probably not married for 12 many many years yeah like if she had it she had she had as many years being a

Brian Atlashoe as I did she'd probably be way over me okay [Laughter] rule 76 no excuses play Like A Champion what's your body count

Ellelike literally like over a hundred but it's not like literally for too long and I'm starting to talk like a valley [ __ ]

Elleuh do you think it's over 200 no so between 100 and 200 I mean I don't I do I don't just keep tabs on all of that like I don't okay but you know for sure

ElleI'm not trying to like be like mysterious like I'm pretty open I dead ass do not know like I do not know I don't have a notes list like some guys do like [ __ ] weirdos but you know for

Brian Atlassure that it's triple digit it's at least triple digit I mean yeah so like 193. yeah right 193 yeah really

Ellea lot of it's girls though what percentage would you say is girls half is it more girls or more guys if you had to I'd say it's probably foreign

Justin WallerI was curious if you're looking at a girl what's what's your limit like I don't know if you care about body count but if you're looking at having a relationship with a girl what's your limit I mean ideally it's a single digit number man and anything past that it's probably just a different bucket for the

Justin Wallergirl that's all yeah you know I'm not super insecure with my ability not to Alpha widow or myself so bro I want to know I want to know Justin's body count bro I don't even know

TTS/Donationsno judge me so you don't judge women on their body count that they would go into it they just go into a different bucket in my mind

TTS/Donationsdonated 200 I understand to be on another planet

Brian AtlasI think that one there came through all right let me do some super chats here let's do the twitch let me shout out twitch really quick uh yo guys twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a prime sub uh if

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ChaseBrian can I ask while we have Justin here I have a question for him because his his time and his Insight is valuable Justin you've talked tonight about the fact that we need to

Chasecreate more strong men who can effectively lead and provide for women this is something that I personally agree with a thousand percent I think that we need to make men great again it's something I often think about too

Chasein terms of like how can we change this generation event and the future generations of men like what do you think is the best way societally to make men great again like how do we how do we get ourselves out of this mess that we're in obviously Banning porn you and I are on

Justin Wallerthe same page about that yeah I think you could bam porn I think you stopped placating to people's feelings so much and let them get out there and actually compete you know we're coming off a generation that everybody gets a trophy and I know that's a real popular answer but letting letting them live with the

Justin Wallerharsh realities that if they don't perform they won't actually have a wife or a family it'll end up going to guys at the top and that's actually in a lot of ways kind of playing out some historical issues that we might have had I believe

Justin Wallerthat the reason Christianity was good and the reason religion is good is that you you followed around it's like every man's got a shot at a wife and a family if we keep going down the path a weak man guys like me or guys like Tater guys like whomever will have all the pick of

Justin Wallerall the women and social media is doing nothing but amplifying that so I think it's going to take men going through a lot of pain to realize that they're going to have to compete if they want to have a real woman in the real world otherwise only fans will continue to

Justin Wallerexcel porn will continue to excel sex dolls will continue to Excel and um I think that would be a shame for society because it was going to leave a lot of angry young men a lot of people shooting

Chaseup schools a lot of a lot of pain in the world that's not necessary I agree have you have you guys seen I know you're part of the War Room correct yeah have you guys seen a lot of young men turn their lives around as a part of that every day every day that somebody

Justin Wallerjoins the real world where we're teaching guys directly how to make real money in real time by people that are doing an actual business the business that they're teaching or guys that joined the war room and start to learn how to get their frame correct how to get in shape how to

Justin Wallerdefend themselves how to dress how to make money it's changing lives every day this is nothing more that I could be more excited about being a part of nothing that's more fulfilling to me than helping those young men's because you don't build strong men in spite of

Justin Wallerwomen you build them for women and the two go together men and women are equal just in different ways and so if we can build men to be strong then maybe women will allow allow a man to be the

Justin Wallermasculine and and find their lame in the feminine and actually be happy with it but it's got to start with the guys they desperately want it I believe in a thousand percent women don't want to be men as much as they might say we do surveys and they find out women who

Lila Roseconsider abortion so I see abortion as the greatest human rights abuse of our day and that women who consider abortion it's typically the number the number one person they turn to is the man like will

Lila Rosehe fight for her will he fight for that baby and 86 percent of women who have abortions today are unmarried one thing then there was men are M.I.A in the vast majority of those cases right well I would say another thing too is like

Justin Wallerlet's stop patronizing women that want to be in the masculine frame you know that want that want to be a Home Keeper that want to be a mother being a mother is the hardest job on the [ __ ] planet dude it is a hard physically emotionally

Justin Wallermentally demanding job that is very very necessary for children to grow up in the right frame of mind to feel loved to feel safe to be able to develop and grow being a mother is one of the most important jobs on the planet right up

Justin Wallerthere with veterans and school teachers and the cops people Overlook these jobs but without these types of jobs a mother being one of them Society does not work as a whole and if we don't get that

Chaseright we'll fail I agree how many yeah yeah it is how many of the guys in the War Room by the way how many would you say are looking for like a wife and to start a family with how many of them want to live that Playboy lifestyle what's what's this I think there's a

Justin Wallerstrong population of guys in the war room that would just like to find a good woman and that would that would be the war room is way more about family than you would think it just outwardly

Ellelooking at it do you guys have dudes in there building successful families and and you guys yes we do you guys think that if a woman has um

Justin Wallerlike experience sexually that just makes her not a good enough woman to marry no nobody said that I think I think ideally the guy men in general would want that to be low but we get to ask our body

Justin Wallercount but you guys don't have to reveal yours so I just I just wonder 400 I don't know I have no idea right okay but I'm I'm gonna get in the chat like oh she's yeah but remember the very beginning okay cool cool you know what I

Justin Wallermean no I don't I don't I think I think that's I think that men that that clap for men that are having sex with a bunch of women that's a lame ass thing to kind of yeah I think it's something it's a criticize well hold on hold on I'm not criticized I understand why the

Justin Wallercriticism let me be very clear I don't care wait let me be really clear with you I told you at the beginning of the conversation life is not fair no so and I was not patronizing your body count so I'm not over here rolling my eyes if you want to [ __ ] a million dudes do it I

Justin Wallerdidn't put you in a box I said ideally the bot the yeah a bucket box whatever you particularly your number I might put you in the cornfield again but the point that the point that I'm trying to make the point I'm trying to make to you is

Justin Wallerthis is that yes there are guys in the war room that do want to build families and do want to have children and we even have rooms specifically talking about parenting the war room is the best group in the world Bar None has down it's not even close

Justin Walleryou would be lucky to find a man in the war room I don't I mean I'm not trying to be insensitive I just don't know what that I I'm not no no yeah I know but at the same time like I wasn't over here talking about your number no I know I'm

Justin Wallerjust hearing you say that men and women should be like equal and or whatever the way that you phrased it of equal value of equal value men or women are of equal value in different ways I mean men do rule the world they build and maintain

Justin WallerSociety I'm not confused about that but I I'll never I would never hold on I would never ever ever discredit how important a woman is in in

Lila Rosethe relationship between the two yeah well that's not true I mean I want to Echo what you said about motherhood because that's underappreciated in society and we look down on Mothers yeah

Lila Roseother women go out in the career like accomplish all these things and can't accomplish tons of things but I think we should be Celebrating Motherhood a lot more as a society and helping mothers be mothers I also think

Dominiquewaiting the challenges a lot of women aren't even able to be with their kids they have to be out working or they're not able to make anything a thousand percent can I say something important I am very pro-life and I just think that

Dominiqueit's really important to be a mother it's it's so important and I think that if you are having sex unprotected

Chasehold on I I have another I have another question I have another I have another question for Justin while we have out here sure because we've been caught up in a lot of [ __ ] for the past hour and a half what um

Chasewhat do you think the men of this generation need to do so you're a father correct yeah yeah what do you think the men of this generation need to do like that I I speak with a lot of aspiring fathers what do you think the the men of

Justin Wallerthis generation need to do to prepare to become the best fathers that they possibly can take full responsibility of the situation that you're in completely and don't forget that you get to take care of a family you get to take care

Justin Walleryou get to be the hero in the life of your wife or your kids or anybody that's around you that leans on you you get to get out of bed every morning and do those things that is the beautiful thing about love I don't I don't want to be

Giselearound or take care of anybody that doesn't need me in that way because that's the most beautiful part mental health therapist and a Christian this whole podcast is painful to listen to knowing what I know Brian let me know

Giselewhen you need another conservative girl on Chase let me know when you're ready for a wife Layla here hire me I'm so inspired to fight for Life P.S help red I love Elissa

Brian Atlasdot org and I'd love to work with you yeah Alyssa thank you uh for the uh Super Chat really appreciate it uh you can DM well or whatever is not working you DMP under BD underscore

Brian AtlasAtlas if you're interested in being on the show uh if I can speak on Chase's behalf on this uh he doesn't he's not looking for a dog you got Chase blonde is she blonde she gotta be blonde

Nicole Mitchelland a virgin right yeah we'd be perfect together he doesn't need to be a virgin to desire a virgin I'm just asking because you ask our body counts what's your body count Chase seven what about you

Brian Atlasas a man of God I do not reveal my body count is it seven like the pin on your shirt I can either confirm nor deny my body count but Chase may I ask how

Chaselong you've been celibate three years and what prompted you to do that I wanted God's favor over my life I also realized that continuing to fornicate was a sin against God against my own body and also against the woman that I

Chasewas having sex with I also look at the times that we're living in I uh see fulfillment to biblical prophecy happening around us and like I said I wanted God's favor over my life so

Dominiquethat's beautiful and do you yeah I love that and do you feel better me too do you feel better since you've been celibate like like physically or like spiritually or

Chaseemotionally or what are you asking all the above the whole plethora of it all uh it brings me greater peace knowing that uh that I am honoring God with my body

Dominiqueand so since you don't watch like porn either um you're just like completely like you don't you know I'm not saying that I don't experience temptation but okay

Brian Atlasjust do my best to keep it under control okay all right we have free fall here uh Free Fall thank you for the uh subsequence uh 100 Super Chat really appreciate all your support tonight girl in pink and jean jacket girl or actually

CrewMadison can you read this please if you can see girl in pink and jean jacket girl thank you for being so empathetic Chase would you be with the girl whose family's backgrounds is Muslim but she isn't also Brian and I learned what

ChaseAudis are because of you LOL educational podcasts LOL if I ever meet you all in person I want a hug uh to answer your question one of the

Chasemarital values that's important for me is making sure that I'm aligned in terms of values with my future wife's family that that's very important I want to have my wife's parents support in the things that I'm doing in my life I want

Chaseto make sure that we're all on the same page in terms of our values the way that we approach religion there's a low likelihood that I would be with a girl whose family is Muslim even if she isn't

Brian AtlasI'm so wait I I'm assuming here then is she saying that she's a Muslim I mean that would seem that would seem to be the implication yeah like she was Muslims most the most important value is

Chasethat she is a Christian uh but if her family is Muslim that's would be a tough sell for me personally that does that does Whittle down the dating pool because there's a lot of losers out there I know we were talking

Lila Roseabout that earlier and like weird guys and they wanted you know you were to talk about they're coming on to you and it's so horrible and I found when I dated guys that matched my values and they were proud about it and they were

Lila Roselike saying yes I'm Catholic yes I believe in what the church teaches it automatically now that doesn't mean there aren't Catholic guys who are messed up but what it does mean is it kind of creates a dating pool that's stronger so you're less likely to meet

TTS/Donationsweirdos basically thank you Victor appreciate it man thank you been wondering about you guys is take on the age when you should have kids as a man I've achieved what I would call

TTS/DonationsProfessional success at a young age and my first kid at 30 my second at 33 a lot of my friends are waiting to be more successful we're already 35.

Brian Atlasis there a question here um on the age when you should have kids as a man uh what did you just Jack the Apple bro

Brian Atlasum I didn't think you'd notice uh I think you should have kids when you're ready you are in a position to

Justin Wallerbe able to financially support them retire the mother if you can retire the mother do it what was the question uh what age men should have kids yeah I think he nailed it though I mean

Justin Wallerin your 30s is a great time I and then if you want to do it before that I'd be sure that I I could at least retire the mom so she could raise them you know what I'll tell you guys what uh the word of God says about this because

ChaseI love it Psalm chapter 127 verse 4 says the children you do uh you need to leave okay you gotta go see ya okay

Brian AtlasI not just

Chasethat was my [ __ ] that's that's what I wanted to do when I was standing up earlier man I watched her walk out of that bathroom and I could tell she was extremely intoxicated and I wanted to say I wanted to send her backing

Chaseah bro all right um

Lila Roseanyways moving on about the the um the whole Tate ideology so it sounds like it's basically Islam it's an ideology if you want to know yeah I think you'd

Chasehave to ask the boys directly or you could watch any of the content that they've put out around them it sounds like Justin's got a front row seat so I mean to be honest like it's not hard to understand like they the Tates have

Chaseput out a ton of content on about their perspective on women right and like people they only hear like the quote unquote misogynistic clips that come out where they say like super over the top stuff about women but like correct me if I'm wrong Justin their

ChaseGeneral message is like love your woman take care of your woman they believe in you know being a quote unquote like Unchained man like seeing as many women as you want that's obviously part of the ideology in Islam but like they're not

Chaseadvocating that men like abuse women or take advantage of women or anything like that they say over the top stuff so that it goes viral but like he like generally speaking he's from what I've seen Andrew Tate has been he's told men like become

Chasethe strongest man that you can to take care of your woman and protect your woman like that's what your woman wants from you become a good leader for your woman and like she will love you for it right so do you basically agree with

ChaseAndrew Tate up until polygamy yeah I mean that's like Andrew Tate's made a million different statements well largely speaking I agree with some of the stuff that he says and I disagree with other things that he says obviously

Justin WallerI disagree with the polygamy part it's good yeah yeah I can tell you as a person that spent serious time with Andrew interest and that I've never ever ever not only see them not be rude to a

Justin Wallerwoman but not be rude or unkind to any person that's come in their path ever not one time ever not even a slip that's great so any woman that is in either one

Justin Wallerof those men's lives is very well taken care of and uh very much respected in the presence of Andrew and Tristan and treat you quite well I'll tell you something I disagree with that they've done historically uh you

Chaseknow obviously Andrew and Tristan have talked about how they would you know basically make women fall in love with them and then they would entice them into doing only fans and they would you know basically have the women make money for them like that's something I

Chasedisagree with obviously um what do you think about that Justin

Justin WallerI think that Andrew and Tristan's decisions with their girls are up to them number one and I don't think that any girl was ever kept ever ever ever against her will and I think that any

Justin Wallerwomen woman that they've worked with including staff and otherwise will tell you nothing but good things about Andrew and Tristan so much so that many of these girls have come online and said that they

Justin Wallerlove Tristan and Andrew and were never working against their will and it's unfortunate that all of a sudden once these girls have a thought for themselves that the Romanian government wants to say that they've been

Justin Wallerbrainwashed when they're actively doing it on their own it's a joke Andrew and Tristan have never abused a woman is certainly not around me and and certainly not anything that I've heard of so

Justin Wallertake it as you want that's been my experience and that's clearly been the experience of many women that they've been with yeah and there's also been no evidence no credible evidence from what I understand that's been put forth of any abuse and

Justin Wallerthey're still under house arrest with no charges so you know um they also have footage in that house that if they wanted to they could just go watch all the footage when you walk

Justin Wallerinto Andrew's house one of the first things you see is is a 70-inch TV with all the camera angles so if they wanted the truth they would get it all right somebody said

Brian AtlasI got that in the Stream here pretty soon uh let's just get the soup chats and we gotta we got that in the Stream um okay so uh let's see Philip call hundred dollar soup chat where do you women get off and downplay the equality

Brian Atlasof a man and a woman uh Unity I served in the military for 17 years and agree that I am a man that can cut the throat and hold my child in my arms uh with love care and Grace Philip thank for the 100 Super Chat much

Brian Atlasappreciated um okay uh we have in the magic Nomad thing for the 102 all the military homies out there Marine 10 years Ura bruh white is super jet I don't know

Brian Atlaswhat the [ __ ] like happened tonight it's very unfortunate too because we have our esteemed guest here Justin um

Brian Atlasuh some we've just in in our defense we've never had this amount of chaos ever on the [ __ ] show we've done 70 plus of these so

ChaseI apologize frankly to the whole panel um I have a question to uh to end on a positive note how many live viewers do we have right now uh nine nine thousand five hundred

Chasethat's a lot Justin if there is any piece of advice that you could give all the people out there so that we can fix this screwed up dating world and uh have healthier relationships out there in the world what would you say I would just say as a young man take full

Justin Walleraccountability and for the young ladies don't don't ever let anybody shame you if you find a man worth getting behind and decide to do that it'd be an absolute shame to see that happen

Brian Atlasthat's it all right quite on bro all right um yeah so guys uh hit that like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats and supports the show thank you to the panel for

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