BANNED?! Pastor Turned ØF Girl vs. Justin Waller, Chase | Dating Talk #73

Date: 2023-05-10

Duration: 3h 55m

Guests

Brian Atlas

NNicole Mitchell >

KKirsten (DT76)>

BBrianna (DT73)>

CChase (DT118)>

JJustin Waller >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Nicole Mitchell(guest)

SPEAKER_02Crew(audience)

SPEAKER_03Gisele(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kirsten(guest)

SPEAKER_05Elle(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lila Rose(guest)

SPEAKER_07Justin Waller(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Chase(guest)

SPEAKER_10Brianna(guest)

SPEAKER_12Madison(audience)

SPEAKER_13Dominique(guest)

Key Moments

IntroNicole Mitchell introduces herself as "the pastor turned stripper" and OnlyFans creator, age 39.

IntroJustin Waller introduces himself: real estate/construction, age 37.

QuoteBrian announces he was permanently banned from Hinge for using it to recruit show guests; shares tip on getting refund via Apple App Store.

QuoteKirsten reveals she makes ~$70,000/month on OnlyFans (top 0.09%); says she would quit if her boyfriend earned enough for her to be a stay-at-home partner.

QuoteKirsten shares Lyme disease story: diagnosed after 9 months of debilitating illness, recovered via holistic doctor in Indiana.

QuoteDominique leaves show twice and returns notably less sober each time; panel suspects bathroom substance use; she claims she drank sink water.

QuoteChase reveals he has been celibate for 3 years to honor God; body count is 7.

ControversyJustin Waller calls Lila Rose "annoying in a goody two-shoes type way" after repeated questioning about his relationship structure.

QuoteJustin Waller states he supports banning pornography in America and credits Dubai's porn block for creating more visible family life there.

QuoteChase reveals he suffered from Lyme disease for 28 years, inherited from his mother who died by suicide from it when he was in high school.

QuoteElle reveals a triple-digit body count (~150-193), noting the majority of her partners were women.

QuoteNicole Mitchell states she does not track her body count; confirms it is under 100 and declines to be more specific, having been married for 12 years.

Topics Discussed

Introductions and announcements

Brian Atlas introduces guests; announces Hinge ban; guests give name, age, occupation, relationship status.

Relationship structures: monogamy, non-monogamy, polygamy

Nicole Mitchell discusses post-divorce sexual liberation and non-monogamy; Justin Waller discusses keeping multiple women while being exclusive on their side; Lila Rose and Chase argue for traditional monogamous marriage; debate on polygamy in the Bible.

OnlyFans, sex work, and society

Panel debates whether OnlyFans empowers or degrades women; body count discussion; Kirsten and Elle share income (~$70k/month and $30k-100k/month respectively); Justin Waller attributes OF proliferation to masculine decline.

Pornography debate and masculinity crisis

Discussion of pornography addiction weakening men; multiple panel members support banning porn; Chase and Justin discuss War Room and building strong men; Lila Rose cites Alfred Kinsey's research as flawed agenda.

Religion, Christianity vs Islam debate

Chase and Lila Rose debate Catholicism vs Protestant Christianity; discussion of Pope Francis; Justin Waller on Andrew Tate's conversion to Islam; Chase wants to bring Tate back to Christianity; debate on whether Christianity has become too weak.

Self-ratings, STIs, and sex ed

Panel rates own looks 1-10; extended debate on STI stigma with Nicole defending destigmatization and Brian/Chase pushing back; Kirsten shares Lyme disease recovery story; Chase shares his Lyme disease history.

Body count discussion

Panel shares body counts; Elle reveals triple digits (~150-193); Dominique leaves and returns appearing intoxicated; Justin's preferred body count limit for relationship candidates.

Building strong men, fatherhood, and closing remarks

Chase and Justin discuss how to fix masculinity crisis; Justin discusses fatherhood and War Room; discussion of ideal age to have kids; closing remarks.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasum I don't know why this one came over it but what the frick hold on it's I'm re-triggering it right now uh what is going on

TTS/Donationsyo bad zxc thing for the 200 just when I thought the 100 just when I thought the depravity could not get any lower in modern women all I can say is you can

TTS/Donationsonly impress me at this point both 304 you think your kids aren't about to get the soul bullied out of them because of your phase is completely insane uh your response yeah it's just like I've

Nicole Mitchellalready told you my kids and my teen boys have said my our friends don't care and they know so it doesn't stand any truth to that like do you think do you think if sorry do you think if other

Nicole Mitchellfamilies were practicing the same thing their kids wouldn't get bullied um I think his get bull no matter what unfortunately it doesn't right but you're not just you can give them different families that's the that's the thing is like we try to stigmatize

Nicole Mitchellsexually different families as though they're gonna be the ones give away I have friends who are all kinds of monogamous monogamous married single Parenthood and their kids are getting bullied for totally different reasons it's not relegated to just sexually

Chasedifferent right but it's also being a Target on people yeah exactly people will get bullied for all for all sorts of different things but that's not an excuse to give kids more ammunition

Nicole Mitchelldo you think that teen their teen sons are telling you the truth absolutely I know they're friends their friends know me and we talk about it all the time because like they're we just have such an open family like what if they didn't want to hurt your feelings would it

Dominiqueweird you out if you're if your kids friends were like watching your only fans like well they can well they can't because you have to be of age I don't know how old

Justin Wallerthey definitely are all over there they're definitely watching your content they're definitely doing things they shouldn't be doing to your content but who hasn't done that to their friend's hot mom there's one more important thing going

Lila Roseon here though because I think it's something really interesting Nick you were talking about like sexual desires and the desire to act out on our different sexual desires and I think there's this mentality in our culture today that if someone has a sexual

Lila Rosedesire then that is their identity that can become their identity if they have enough of a sexual desire in One Direction that's their identity and so but I don't think that's true I don't think we're defined by our desires I think we're defined by what we choose I

Nicole Mitchelllove pegging and I do not identify as a pegger it's like I love threesomes and I don't identify as a threesome it's like I'm Nicole Mitchell a woman who's alive and in tune with what she wants and lets

Nicole Mitchellherself have it with consenting adults and there's nothing wrong with that I disagree all kinds of experiences but doesn't mean I have to identify as each of those things I love Oreos I'm not an Oreo you know it's like

Nicole Mitchellwe have to realize like this these are statements we say as it's there's no substance behind it no I disagree I disagree Nick I gotta make a point you go for it you say that there's nothing

Chasewrong with it you say that as long as you're at peace with your morality it's fine I completely disagree again I think I think if our entire Society ran the way that you're kind of prescribing where people just fulfill whatever

Chasequote-unquote Soulful desires they have things would completely fall apart like yeah the values that she was preaching to Justin earlier when he you know he was getting a little bit annoyed by it

Chaseunderstandably I I what she was preaching like like I I am here personally in the world to serve God and I believe that one of the best ways that we can serve God Is by

Chasesacrificing our selfish desires that might have negative impacts on ourselves or other people and these statements like you know as long as you're fine with it it's okay like there's Ripple

Nicole Mitchelleffects to our actions in that statement though the assumption is that the desires are negative and that they will create harm so I have a belief that my desires are given to me by God and by fulfilling my desires it brings more

Nicole Mitchellgood in the world you think that they're given to you by God yes I think the fact that I have a clitoris which only exists for pleasure not for reproduction not for child wearing purely for my pleasure

Nicole MitchellI believe there's a Divine Design where pleasure is our Birthright and so by me honoring my desire for pleasure letting myself receive it letting myself give it to others produces so much good and

Nicole Mitchellpleasure and connection I it baffles me surely how people are so afraid of pleasure they'd rather sacrifice and deny into say to push back what you're saying earlier too like if we did all the way you guys preach like husband

Nicole Mitchellwife monogamous marriage and kids that's how Society has been what the past 100 plus years and women are shocked in marriages thousands of years women were trapped in marriages they couldn't get out and if they got out they were ruined because they were their worth and value

Nicole Mitchellwas solely found in that marriage they could only Professor yes women didn't have the right to own homes open credit cards have bank accounts buy property the reason the divorce rate is so high now is more women are so are we are

Lila Rosecapable to be financially independent so this is something I'm super passionate about because I think there's been a version of maybe fundamentalist Christianity that people have experienced that they felt really hurt

Lila Roseby and so they've kind of lashed out against it and rejected it and I see this a lot actually um but the reality is when you know I actually so I was raised Protestant went through this kind of semi-agnostic phase kind of like you went through and then I

Lila Roseended up Catholic after doing a ton of study and a ton of research and just being convinced by the beauty of it and it was learning about how men and women are equal dignity they're equal Partners

Lila Roselearning about sex what God's design is which is a beautiful one that it is about pleasure it absolutely is about pleasure and pleasure it's not dirty or shameful but it's also about procreation and the ability to bring life into the

Lila Roseworld and it's designed to be within marriage where you're in a lifelong public commitment to someone that you're going to give yourself a hundred and ten percent to and that's how you build a beautiful family of love and respect and

Lila Roseyour children are secure in your love that you have with your spouse and so you know I don't know all of your experiences obviously and everyone has had different experiences but the reality is the social data proves that

Lila Rosemonogamous lifelong marriages make people happiest they have the most sex and the best sex and kids are healthier that way and so that's why I know you're excited about that Vision uh Chase and that's why we want to share that Vision

Brian Atlasnot just because of some fundamentalist thing but because it actually makes people happier and healthier in the long run yeah okay well to my people then we'll continue on that conversation a little bit later um I do have to read a

Brian Atlascouple super chats and I need to touch on a couple other points here so we have uh let's see here we have did I miss a few [ __ ] okay I don't think so all right we have a German ganzer 100 are you able

Brian Atlasto see this can you read this to lean forward top males are often referred to as Alpha but the term Alpha comes from studies of wolves in captivity not on the wild where they are more family centered guys if you could

Justin Wallerreplace alphas and betas what would you call these top guys Justin wallers and first of all I think Alpha and beta is

Justin Wallerthe most cringy thing to say cringe to to associate yourself with um so I don't I don't particularly identify as either hard for me to say

Brian Atlaswas that a question directed towards us it's asking the guys I guess I mean I yeah I think the whole Alpha Beta things kind of cringe especially if you call it like yourself refer you know there's no

Chaseplanet where I would ever call myself that I just I hate it so much you got Alpha you got you got sigmas that March to the beat of Their Own Drum I feel like sigmas think they could be Alpha but there's a real Alpha around so

Chasethey're like I'm Sigma [ __ ] that dude that's just as nerdy you got betas and then this is one I'm trying to bring into the Lexicon bro the Omega males oh yeah yeah what's that what is that

Chasewhat's the Omega male right this is this is uh you've got Christ who said he was the Alpha and the Omega right and so you've got alpha males the Omega male this is the archetype of the man who commands respect He commands Authority but he also has his sights set

Chaseon the end the kingdom that's coming right an alpha male who's focused on the kingdom he's focused on the service right and yeah he's a he's a leader to serve yes that's the Omega male I identify as an Omega male

Brian AtlasChase is an Omega male okay very cool very cool all right uh Mr Max thanks for the hundred uh Chase and Leela can we bring back moral how can we bring back morals

Lila Rosein society you just gotta live it Joy like proud live in it here's yeah and don't judge people you know ultimately stay the

Chasecourse of what you think's right a good answer I would also feel like I've got a better one no no no to add to add on to that how to bring back morals in society I mean there's there's nothing new Under the Sun right the morality that she's preaching has been

Chasearound for thousands of years various societies have experimented with polygamy pansexuality so on and so forth I think the best way to bring back morality in society is to

Chasebe fruitful right God provided us the blueprint for success in relationships and marriage all these different kind of things and like I don't think a society that's based on that kind of morality is going to stand the test of time right

Chasebut I think if if people try to be the best versions of themselves that they can possibly be raise the best families that they possibly can raise up those families with good morality and and that

Chasedynasty that lineage goes on to set the Legacy in society I think long term that's how you bring morality back rock and roll a uh Mr Max thanks for the uh

Brian Atlasbig 100 shout out Steve Norman he coined the Omega male term by the way um we have ten thousand about ten thousand

Brian Atlasfive hundred people watching right now so you know the chat is on fire um it's way too Overexposed Eric can you fix this um you hide that hide that a question

Chasefor Lila do you know who funded Alfred Kinsey's research I think the Rockefeller institution Eric interesting how much of society the Rockefellers have subverted a lot of

Chasemessed up stuff yep cool rockefeller's also subverted is it all the way to zero yeah the The Rockefellers John D Rockefeller in the beginning of the 20th century discovered that you could make

Brian AtlasPharmaceuticals from petroleum products right so he created this entire what are we talking about they asked me to expand on how Rockefeller subverted America they did we can move on if you yeah that's okay um we have uh

Brian AtlasMario Garcia thing for the hundred chases a Chad can you get a Deus volt in chat you guys are so focused on your passions but they will always flee you the religious person however in denying

Brian Atlashis passion has the passion for eternal life he who drinks from his well will never thirsty thank you uh and he wanted a Deus volt in the chat let's get let's

Brian Atlasget uh if we have Christ respecters in the chat let's get some Deus votes in all caps all right we have doc the nabulous hide that

Brian Atlasum clergy are at High risk for sex addiction Pastor stripper situations predictable in common unfortunately you won't get help until you hit rock bottom I pray for your

Brian Atlaschildren whether you like it or not doc of a nautilus thing for the hundred you have a response to Doc thanks for the prayers okay the prayers have been heard okay and then we have Eric pull up the twitch please gosh shout out the twitch homies

Brian Atlasguys go to twitch.tv slash whatever oh sorry twitch.tv slash whatever mods if you could spam it in the chat go to go check it out drop us a follow drop us a prime um if you have Amazon Prime you can link it to your Twitch quick free

Brian Atlaseasy way every single month to support the show uh Woody's thing for the prime Neptune thing for the prime AEO non thing for the prime Patty thing for the prime Steph think of the follow uh undefeated thanks for the follow thank

Brian Atlasyou guys twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub um okay cool and then we have a couple super chats here I want to just read really quick just a reminder guys um the I what is one of the triggers and

Brian Atlaswhatever I'll get it later um okay we have uh Dustin bond with the big 200 Super Chat man this panel popcorn hey thank you so much man really appreciate the uh Super Chat all right that was a uh attempt to the slow clap

Brian Atlasstart there okay we have uh have you seen what's that movie uh uh Not Another Teen Movie yeah not another uh yeah the guy tries to get like one of those group slow chats going

Brian Atlasokay whatever um Matthew South thanks for the 100 Super Chat at the moment you have to say as a something inside the conversation it means way less to the consumer of the idea uh chase you have a response to this

Brian Atlaswas that directed at me I assume because I I think you said as a Christian uh whatever I don't care okay uh Matthew thank for the uh 100 Super Chat much

Brian Atlasappreciated friend okay um so and then we have a question here from Stifler asked everyone to rate their looks on the scale of one two ten so we'll go around the table on this one

Giselewould you rate your looks on the scale of one to ten go ahead oh my gosh um maybe a seven I'd give myself an eight I got so yelled at last time but a four

Giseleor five no you're higher than that you're much higher than that no but that's why everyone yelled at me because they were saying I was fishing but that's just my

Dominiqueown view of myself oh what sometimes we're Our Own Worst critics four or five

Dominiqueum I would say uh seven um I think I'm like funny so I think it like boosts me to like a [ __ ] I think I'm like a nine because I'm funny but

Dominiqueit's luck are we doing like with makeup or no makeup how about how about both if you want okay so like when I wake up in the morning um no makeup I think I'm like in a and

Dominiquethen like when I do my makeup I think like but I thought you were funny so so with the funny you're a 10 yeah okay all right total package there you

Lila Rosego uh I think you guys are all giving yourselves too low that's my opinion and to my husband I'm a 10 and that's what matters to me to me self-assessment I mean because I

Lila Rosethink his love for me just gives me extra Joy I would say yeah I see myself as a 10 when I'm with him hell yeah we're both times yeah it's all seven and a half eight on a good day

Justin Wallerhmm Justin oh guys are doing this yeah we're doing the two I guess yeah dude I don't know what I've never thought about this I'm I'm just gonna

Brian Atlashave to be attending okay all right okay uh Kaiser Wilhelm III back there what 10 yeah yeah all right good times good

Brian Atlastimes what about you I give myself six really wait have you relegated yourself from 6.9 well 6.9 on a good day okay 6.9 on a good day six you know I think after seeing the beard on your Instagram like

Dominiqueyou should definitely give yourself a little bit of a higher number most guys yeah I like it girl weird like that I like the long beard actually well yeah I just feel like there's always room for improvement we're giving you a seven you know no we're giving you an eight so

Brian Atlasyou're an eight say eight stay away from seven to eight okay um yeah I think I'm a six um okay so we have I have a couple questions just to bring it back really quick to Justin

Brian Atlasum in terms of kind of your relationships with with women uh is it closed is it it's closed on their end right like you may have a couple girls

Brian Atlashere and there maybe more than a couple but they are exclusive to you is that correct just into into the mic if you yes okay what would you tell one of them

Justin Wallerif they wanted to be with other guys it was nice to know you it's not a problem yeah I look man I'm not forceful at all like this is a choice thing if if

Justin Wallera woman sees it as a valuable thing then so be it and I Honestly though I think the way the conversation is going is it's like I have like 80 wives or some [ __ ] um but uh now if they want to go they

Justin Wallercan go man no problem that was what I expected yeah you should always be calm and respectful you never I don't believe in raising your voice and getting angry anything like that you know I have a question do you think marriage should be public

Lila Rosewhat do you mean do you think that when you commit your life to someone and you're gonna build a family with them do you think that should be done in community so public look I I think that's up to the people that do it I

Lila Rosedon't think there's a right way to do it at all so it's up to you so you think like for children they shouldn't they don't have the right to know whether or not their parents are married and be able to feel that when they got into society yeah I think that if you're if

Justin Walleryour kids ask you should tell them the truth 100 there's no lie or no nothing I would ever keep from a child of mine meaning the truth about no we're not married I have other other people I'm sleeping with whatever they asked me I would answer

ElleI think as somebody that was raised by a single mom like those things they they don't matter as much to your child as you think that they may I mean it did have an effect on my relationships going

Ellegrowing up but it's also something like you can learn from that experience through your parents you know like you can as long as you have open communication with your child and I don't have any children but I have younger siblings and I'm openly

Justin Wallercommunicative with all my family members I think what's most important when it comes to kid is their love in the house do they see love between their parents not not are they living the way of of making people that go to church happy

Justin Wallerit's a very downward deflecting question you're asking me and I understand why you're doing it however I'll put love first in front of marriage every day of the week because people get married in America every weekend putting the marriage and the Facebook pictures

Justin Wallerbefore the actual love so I'll take the love over all the [ __ ] I think that's probably true there's a lot of it's definitely true there's a lot of hypocrisy for sure there's a lot of hypocrisy and Christianity as well like Bible thumping people that want to beat

Justin Walleryou up with their views and ask silly questions about things that don't matter like is your kid going to be upset that you have other women all I'm worried about is being a good [ __ ] father and a provider and giving them a life full of love and if I can do that I've been

Lila Rosequite quite successful in fact I'd say more successful than most Christians so my understanding thought it totally wanting the best for the other person and that it's committed and that

Lila Roseit's sacrificial and that it's exclusive it's faithful and Fidelity I think is a really important part of love and if you don't have Fidelity and love then you don't have the security and the opportunity for full vulnerability can I throw a hypothetical at you yeah

Elleplease do if and this is a hypothetical please so please don't get offended but if your husband were to do something that was not okay with you whatsoever to the point where you did not any longer

Ellewant to be with him whether that's cheating or something else that's just a no for you would you leave she would stay would you leave them to just please your your children and to keep your family

Elletogether is that like some you're willing to risk your own happiness and well-being or even safety if it was something that was that extreme are you talking about abuse I'm I'm using a hypothetical okay whatever it is that

Ellewould be like a straight like I need to leave this person would you stay with them just for the convenience and also the toxicity that it could bring into your household and inflicting your your children you know so my position is if

Lila Roseand it's the position of the Catholic Church as well which is that if you're in a situation in a marriage that's abusive right it's causing harm to you or your children then you definitely should create separation you should leave you can actually get a legal

Lila Rosedivorce if you need to separate your assets but the position of the church and my belief is that marriage is forever um until death was part until death was part so you can marry someone and they

Lila Rosebecome a screwball you know they totally mess up they they do bad things and you should separate from them for your protection of your kids protection but you then don't go on and just remarry

Lila Roseand try to live another life now there's something in the case if you were lied to so there's something called annulment which some people say oh that's Catholic divorce it's actually not annulment is when the mayor it says if the marriage never happened because it's people were

Lila Roselying typically when they go into the marriage so like typically abusers don't just start abusing after marriage they're abusing before marriage too or they're lying so if they're lying to you in a serious way and you go into a marriage you weren't free able to freely

Lila Rosechoose that marriage and so afterwards you can request an annulment from the church and be like hey I don't think I was even married because I didn't freely choose this I didn't know this guy was a liar and you know addicted to pornography and abuse and all these things and so in that case you could

Justin Wallernullify the marriage and then be free to be free to actually get married I want to say something just to be completely fair to you I think what you have in your marriage is absolutely beautiful no problem with it at all I think that if

Justin Walleryou two are happy and like living together in the Lord and like you see a future that even goes past his life to Heaven I think that's a beautiful beautiful thing no issue at all well and you should be commended for doing it you

Justin Wallerknow properly well but not properly in regards to religion I don't mean to cut you off but properly in regards to like what you are setting out to do with him I think that's a beautiful thing well we're definitely imperfect people figuring it out right and that's what

Lila Rosepart of marriages is becoming better together you know in that total commitment to each other um but the thing is like I'm passionate about not just wanting it for myself right like I'm very grateful to be married it has rooted my life it has anchored my life it has changed my life

Lila Rosebut I don't want to just keep that to myself and be like oh this is just my personal thing over here I want other people to re to have the opportunity for that what do you think it takes for women to get in a position to find a husband that will commit to them fully and give their life to them what do you

Lila Rosethink that takes well I think the first step is working on yourself and your own development as a woman becoming the best that you can be and then having good standards for the man that you're going to be with like to be perfectly honest

Lila Rosewith you I would not ever date a guy who I thought would be unfaithful to me not even date him never if I found out my person I was dating is sleeping with other women or sleeping with anyone honestly because I don't I didn't have we didn't have sex before marriage I'd

Lila Rosebe like no I'm not I'm not interested but I ask you what what you think a woman needs to do I think the woman needs to become the best she can be she needs to grow psychologically be healthy if she needs to heal from trauma from her childhood a lot of us have baggage I had baggage go get the therapy that you

Justin Wallerneed um really understand do you not do not believe that that therapy is in the church and Christianity do I not believe what do you not believe it's everything that you need as a church you can't just find that in the word well the beauty of

Lila Roseso the beauty of Catholicism is it's very much focused on the whole person right so it's not like we're just Spiritual Beings right we're also bodies with desires with traumas with with experiences and so the psychological

Lila Roseworld and you know psychological health is an important part of bodily health and it connects to your spiritual health so therapy is great you know obviously we totally promote therapy for those that need it mental health is really important so just because you're doing

Lila Rosethe right thing spirit doesn't mean you're necessarily mentally healthy you may need to get mental health support too I think this is actually something a lot of people who are really spiritual fall into they think oh if I'm just pray enough I can make my depression go away right and yes sometimes God does just

Lila Roseheal depression like that but a lot of the time God uses natural means like a good therapist you know a good psychiatrist to help somebody through that or a good threesome Oh wrong I would say that that's going to decline

Nicole Mitchellsomeone's mental health in the end would be my might for some people but that's again like it's so unique to the person and I think so you're talking about like spiritual you talk about bodily mental we're also sexual we absolutely are that's the part like we have to find a

Nicole Mitchellway to helpfully channel that desire and for you that's through monogamous marriage for me that's tsunami monogamy and trusting like what is right for me is right for me what is right if it's right for you and back to your question too about you know what if all Society was like you but it's not it's a

Nicole Mitchellspectrum we have people all the way on the one extreme of monogamy we have other people on The Other Extreme to polyamory and like we're all summer across there and I think there's beauty in all of it depending Who You Are or what's good for you and so I don't think

Lila Roseit has to be one or the other but Nick you're three years in right you're three years in living this way so look at look at 90 years look at 80s I'm thinking the same thing I don't know how old

TTS/Donations200.69 Madison and Giselle is there anything you want to talk about yeah let's uh let's move things along a

Brian Atlaslittle bit here um so uh Kaiser Wilhelm the third you got anything it's okay yeah Chase do you want to pull up a little bit more today it's super hard not particularly it's

Brian Atlasnot comfortable yeah I'm sitting sideways you guys are good you guys are good uh Matt Kaiser Wilhelm the third do you have anything to say okay I guess not Gisele what's up

GiseleI mean I've mainly just been listening I'm not too into religion but I really am into love and monogamy and I think it's very special because I think all of us could have sex all the time if we

Giselewanted to and I think that's what makes having sex with a special person so special and that's just my viewpoint on it but I understand that we all have

Giselehave we find happiness through different ways or through different means but I guess this is just how I choose to live my life I recommend you for having that point of

Dominiqueview I really do I have a question do you think that like you're hyper sexual like has come from and I don't want to like pry but like Trauma

Nicole Mitchellfrom like maybe getting like molested or raped like bro what the [ __ ] not at all that's this common question that most only fans models get yeah it's like you have childhood trauma and like that's how afraid of pleasure we are that's how

Nicole Mitchellafraid we are of women who know what they want and let themselves have it we have to couch it in terms of she was probably traumatized as a child what if she's just a powerful woman who knows what she wants like we don't know what to do with a woman like that so we have to couch in terms of something had to

Nicole Mitchellhave happened to her no no it was just a question no I'm just saying this is commonly the only fans world but when you see a man with a strong sexual desire sleeping with a bunch of women it's like they're looked up well a lot of times they call it the ego they say it's his ego that needs it right truly

Justin Wallerhe just wants to have sex yeah it's like it's not it's well maybe some guys some guys because they're the ones that brag about well dude I will never brag about women I sleep with ever exactly

Justin Wallerthe Chad and the um Alpha Male yeah that's super cringy yeah so I agree um I think those things are misconstrued sometimes though because I think some men just like literally have that kind of Drive in them like physically like

Justin Wallercoming out of them it tortures them I tell people all the time if I could stroke a check for a million dollars right now it ain't clear and that feeling never come to me again I would I would write the check I think that your drive whether it's

Lila Roseyour sexual drive or your drive for whatever you're aiming at right wealth or friendship you're lonely whatever it is it's powerful right and it can be channeled and so you know to what you were saying earlier um Justin is like

Lila Roseyou can Channel these things towards the end that you choose and so I think the big question is what is the end that we're going to choose that when we're 80 years old or 90 years old on our deathbed we're like you know are we going to be surrounded by that lifelong

Lila Rosepartner that spouse that we are faithful to our whole life and our kids who grew up in that intact home are we going to be alone or are we going to be you know what what kind of Life are we aiming around a polyamorous woman would not be alone at her funeral I'm gonna let you

Chaseknow that right now but that's what they know let's be real like let's let's show you guys like let's be real how long is this Merry-Go-Round Gonna Last right in my in

Kirstenmy opinion I think go ahead Kirsten as women too we are also more wired to have an emotional connection to sex I can still have a high sex drive but have sex with one person if you start having sex with so many people and don't be wrong

KirstenI'm the only fans model too so I I don't give a [ __ ] about that but like when you're having sex with so many people that as a woman there is no more emotional connection that clearly is some kind of issue well one thing I can say as a man is I know for a fact that a

Justin Wallerman can love a woman and sleep with other women and not be in love with those others men and women also wild completely different and I agree with you and that's right now that's why it's a problem for me that's a lot's a problem for me so if I love a girl there's no having sex with other guys

Justin Wallerbecause if she loves me she she doesn't even see other men yeah other men are invisible if you're in love with a man other other men are invisible and that's no disrespect to you I'm just I'm just saying that all women have to have an

Elleemotional connection to have sex that's not true and and in that same sense you know I feel as if like you know her and I we we see a little bit eye to eye on certain things but I see eye to eye with a lot of different people here because I have I'm I'm able to see different

Elleperspectives but I do want to do want to point out the fact that you know she was in a in a marriage where you said 12 years of course when she becomes single she's going to want to experiment and see what's going on outside of that I'm

Elle21 years old I wasn't in a marriage but I was in a very toxic bad relationship for five years when I got out of that I wanted to just see what or maybe happened for me maybe it wasn't even that it was toxic it was just a long

Elletime ever that doesn't mean that it's going to be this way forever that doesn't mean that I can't meet the right person and put all my intentions into just one person that doesn't mean I'm incapable of commitment it just means that I'm 21 years old I'd rather focus

Justin Walleron myself focus on what is best for me in this moment and not focus all my attention on to a man or woman or yeah and Rolo calls that the part of yours in his book so it's right in line with where you are age-wise I would argue

Justin Wallerthough that you're not head over heels in love with your partner you know not not like obsessed you know that kind of love I'm talking just one sec while this comes in

Nicole Mitchelluh Thomas thing for the donation Thomas did you want to continue your point no okay I I do want to know the answers to the question how long do you think this Merry-Go-Round is going to last like as long as the Merry-Go-Round of monogamy

Nicole Mitchelllasts it's it's how people are wired when people who are wired for monogamy are going to be monogamous people are wired to be non-monogamous are going to be non-monogamous the root of my question is like right now it's fun because like there's a lot of people that want to have sex with you and like

Chaseyou're enjoying that companionship and all that kind of stuff but like what about when you're in your 50s and 60s and like 70s and all the people all the people that want to bang you now who don't want to commit to you like they're probably not going to be around please

Nicole Mitchelldon't commit to me I'm not open for that but like don't you want that companionship when you're holding it with who with my person I'm dating my partner you think they're going to be around when you're in your 70s and so yeah and if not that's okay too I don't

Nicole Mitchellput pressure because I this is the big thing coming out of monogamous marriage we vow to be with each other until death do us part and then we parted long before death and it was really traumatizing because I'm like wait we said this but we're doing this so I've told anyone I date now in my person

Nicole Mitchellright now like I don't even want you to say that to me that is actually really alarming to me that because I don't know where you're going to be 30 years from now I don't know who I'm going to be 30 years from now what if we could become totally different people I am not going

Nicole Mitchellto hold you to a promise you made 30 years back I'd much rather instead of saying to me I'm going to spend the rest of my life with you I'd rather say I am so excited to wake up with you tomorrow morning I want to take it one day at a time make sure we're on the same page

Nicole Mitchellwe're in alignment we are vibing things are amazing but if we start veering in different directions it is not my job to Reign you back in and force you back kind of adjusting to saying like you're free to leave like I don't control you

Nicole Mitchellyour own person I'm free to leave and if I desire a long-term companionship I believe I can have that if I desire to have many partners over the rest of my life I believe I can have that I truly believe we get to have the desires of

Lila Roseour heart I think the human condition is that things aren't always amazing right we have bad days we get sick terrible accidents can happen and so that's where the power of love comes in a love that

Lila Rosedoesn't leave a love that doesn't isn't based on feelings or desire but a love that's based on choice and I think deep down we're all wired for that even men even men that like like you were saying Justin I want to be with multiple women

Lila Roseand everything I think deep down we want a love that stays a love that lasts and it is possible for everyone every single person at this table I guarantee you a thousand percent it is possible for you not for asexual yeah but I would argue that like who are you to tell me that

Justin WallerI'm not going to be happy because I don't choose your path yes I don't think I said that that pretty much you reframed it in that way so who are you to say that I will say do you think I'm going to be less happy than you I think that if you live your life and you said

Lila Roseyou're not sharing whether or not you're doing this so we're all talking in hypotheticals so I don't know exactly how you're living right you didn't share that but if hypothetically you live your life where you are starting multiple families with multiple women what if I

Lila Rosehave one family and 50 girlfriends I think in the end it will bring great unhappiness to your family to your children to the mother of your children and to you okay cool

Brian AtlasI just wanna I just want to clarify what you're so kind of related to this um let's let's speak a little bit on marriage really quick so uh uh I agree with you Justin I think

Brian Atlasmarriage is an L especially for men I mean you're an incredibly successful guy and I think you previously stated hey look oh I didn't get to my position in life to

Brian Atlasmarry someone and it'd be a liability where she could potentially uh change your mind so I agree with you there and especially I mean with uh stats as they are I think

Brian Atlasit's something like 80 of marriages end in divorce or sorry excuse me 50 of marriages end in divorce 80 of those are initiated by women so men are disproportionately impacted by the

Brian Atlasnegative Well there's almost it's almost entirely negative outcomes of divorce so um I I and I but Chase I know we've kind of had a back and forth on the whole

Brian Atlasmarriage thing and I think kind of my point is that you could have a long-term even life partner with someone and not get married to them and I mean I think the two things I'd point to recently uh granted this one isn't as

Brian Atlasstrong of a case as I previously thought but you look at for example what happened with Stephen Crowder now there's been some videos that came out and that don't exactly paint him in the most flattering light but you know Steve

Brian Atlasmakes it easy to understand why his wife would leave yeah now granted it's a it's a three-minute clip of an otherwise multi-year-long marriage people have bad

Brian Atlasday bad days he doesn't look good granted he does not look good in that in that moment but you look at the the context of his marriage they were both

Brian Atlasvirgins both religious um even they got divorced you have we have you you're a yeah but I gotta say something hold on you're

Brian Atlasex-pastor I imagine you were quite Pious when you were a pastor you were you got married I assumed to a Pious man were you uh when you got married were you were you both virgins if I don't know if

Brian Atlasthat's too prying but no we were not but you were both deeply religious and so I look at that and I look even at the deeply religious person where you know there's uh people who are agnostic or

Brian Atlaswho are secular who get married and I you know it would occur to me that people that are religious have even like a at least logically with you would think well there's the religious component to

Brian Atlasmarriage so those are potentially stronger but you look at I mean and I looked at the the data I think I think religious people Edge out secular people a little more in terms of staying together but

Chaseit it still ain't looking great either people who are religious Brian the data the data on people who are actually attending church and they take the religion seriously they don't just call themselves Christian there's a big

Chasedifference in those data sets versus the people that actually take it seriously right and to call her marriage Pious or to call Crowders marriage Pious is not actually fair to people that are truly honoring what the word of God tells us

Chaseto do for example no offense but female Pastor not not living in alignment with the word of God right Paul was clear we're not supposed to have female pastors okay so that's that's not that's not an example of

Chasepiety Stephen Crowder right the way that he was speaking to his wife look it's it's one moment in time it's three minutes it's you know there's no way to extrapolate that out to the rest of their lives with certainty but if

Chasethose three minutes were a representation of the rest of the way that he was approaching his marriage it's like that's not how we're called to treat our wives when we're we're serious

Chaseabout our walk with Christ you know like he was speaking to her in a very aggressive and like I don't know man like like she she was just asking to like use the car and go get groceries and stuff and the way he was speaking to her was

Chaseso like condescending and rude and he was treating her like [ __ ] you know what I mean it's like I watched that clip and I'm like I'm not surprised she wanted to leave him if if I was a woman and I had been with a guy like that for years and he had been treating me like that for

Chaseyears I'd be like yeah I probably you know want to get out of this marriage right it's like it's verbal abuse you know but there's a difference between that versus somebody who is actually striving to live by the tenets of the

Chaseword of God and who is who you know who is loving their wife as he loves himself and who is sacrificing for her and who treats her like gently and with compassion and if the wife is doing the same to her husband then she's you know

Chasesubmitting to her husband and she's loving him effectively and she follows his leadership and he is a good leader you're going to have totally different marital outcomes with couples like that right well and it's really interesting

Lila Rosebecause the step when they do studies about sexual satisfaction for women they find that women who are married in monogamous face full marriages and they are going to church regularly like

Lila Roseweekly share that they have the highest sexual satisfaction and super low divorce rates there's so much data out there that women get more orgasms and more pleasure from women than they do to men but

Lila Rosethat's because the men is that man is probably not a good lover to them yeah that's the majority of the situations you see that's the beauty of a lifelong marriage it's like you learn to love each other not just like in doing chores for each other doing fun things together

Nicole Mitchellbut in how you have sex you learn to really love each other what do you do if one partner has a high libido and one partner has a low libido well you work through that so one has to starve sexually and one no you feel

Nicole Mitchellguilty you are not sacrifice like was that the case in your marriage no but I'm just I just know examples where men like but either gender one gender is like I have no drive so I can't well if a guy I'll answer that if

Chasea guy has no drive and the woman has a high drive he should go get his testosterone levels checked right because a guy a guy who's just gonna say a guy who's healthy he's like he's gonna want sex you know but if he has no if he

Ellehas no sexual drive stressed out or he's not eating well he's not or even or even vice versa like if a woman is in in having the same sex drive like that's I don't know I mean I think when it comes in then is there something wrong with

Giselethe woman I think when it comes down to as emotionally into a relationship if she's not yeah it doesn't have that high sex drive because when with my ex he had a really high sex drive and I don't I

Lila Rosereally don't care for sex but with him I was down to do whatever because you loved it every single day yeah yeah however many times and that's the design of monogamous love and marriage is that you learn to love each other and this

Lila Roseidea of like sexual incompatibility I think is a total myth I think it's a lie and people believe it and so they have sex before marriage but people have who have sex before marriage and sleep together or cohabitate actually have worse outcomes once married they're more likely to divorce not a lot of people

Lila Roseknow that that's what the social data says but that's because when you're in it for life and you're in it to really love this person to be committed and learn them and do whatever you can for them you learn pleasure with them you learn how to love not just sex with them

Dominiquebut your entire life with them and you work at it together I think it's because when you're like monogamous like the when you're with someone longer like just them you learn to communicate like what you like in dislike in the bedroom

Nicole Mitchelllike what do I say I like non-monogamy no I'm saying like you know what I mean no but like I'm saying when you're with it's like I love you and I want group sex well I think if you want it if you want to cheat on somebody and you're

Nicole Mitchellmarried to them I think you make the decision not to yeah and that's that's where I have different beliefs from religion which is about sacrifice I believe in honoring desires and like again I'm not saying I I think go on a whim and just do whatever but I think like I think that

Nicole Mitchellactually is true love can you love me in my fullness and in my fullness I'm not monogamous and my fullness I want to have sex with other people and my fullness I'm very sexual if that's too much for you I can't be with you and I bless and release you see I think you're

Nicole Mitchellmaking an identity out of your desires but your identities what you desire you're making your identity out of your desires just because minor sexual you're making that about me but you make an identity out of your desires for

Lila Rosemonogamy for marriage for procreation that's your identity I I all make our identities around our desires it's not just for sex I think there's a lot of Truth to what you're saying the question is what desire will you be defined by

Nicole Mitchellyour sexual impulse and urge or will you be defined by something much bigger or is your identity based on controlling your desire it's about channeling it make sure that

Lila Roseyou don't let him take advantage of your compassion towards him I'd add one quick thing is find a good Mentor like a man that you can respect and that is living a faithful fruitful life and try to

Dominiquelearn from that man and there are good men out there even when we're hurt by bad ones yeah I didn't my dad I didn't meet him until I was like 12 and he was never a father to me either and so I'm so sorry you lent like all your savings

Dominiqueto your dad for that um and I hope you find a guy that can be a father figure in your life that's super sad have you guys been reading the super chatter was just that one popped up it was the first one that we read

Brian Atlasokay cool I'll do a couple do a couple chats right now we have a sausage imp 101 go ahead Giselle if you want to read this let Giselle know this silly Cruise

Giselewatching on Discord we love her and can we get a meow from everyone on the panel

ChaseI give that a D Minor it was like a very lackluster now yeah um on purpose you gotta fully commit Pastor are we gonna get meow

Ellewait and give it a CH IMA Justin no no no no no way can we get a rough can we get a bark

Brian Atlascan we get a bark um okay yeah for alpha dogs I know that's why I said it was a joke okay I'm sorry I just asked Justin

GiseleWaller to meow okay I apologize all right we have um we have uh Hearn with the 100 go ahead Giselle right all Pharmaceuticals derive from

Giselethings that ultimately occur in nature but you can't be patient patent AKA make money if people know they can get it from there nature hence why Farm

Giselecompanies chemically remake or structure drugs so they can patent them to profit you read so much quicker on your live stream by the way because it's closer

Dominiquehere probably yeah fair enough okay big farm is profiting off the sickness of mankind can I say something I like because my brother is a

Dominiqueraw vegan I was a raw vegan for about a year and it can cure cancer dead like dead ass like going raw vegan and literally cure cancer like big Pharma profits off of chemotherapy

Dominiqueum they want us they want people to stay sick because chemo is not curing cancer it's just killing all your cells in the hopes that the cancer doesn't come back but the remission rate is like very low

Dominiqueso like I'm very passionate about like how big Pharma is just trying to give kids meds like kids don't need to be taking Adderall that's like prescription meth while we're on the topics you want to talk about any Turkish border disputes

Brian Atlasokay uh Rodrigo lares thank for the uh 100 soup chat go ahead Giselle oh wait we already did this one my bad my bad all right we have some over here we have uh oops hold on

Brian Atlasoh hold on it's about to trigger one sec guys push up 50 thing for the 120 man thank you so much six eight deer Slayer here again Justin and Chase are both good Role Models similar messages but

Brian Atlasdifferent paths both focused on self-improvement men need to stick together and support each other work hard and Lift Us Lift us all up thank

TTS/Donationsyou oh whoa thank you bad zxc thank you man donated 200 the more I listen to this old 304 I am genuinely convinced

TTS/Donationsthat you are mentally not well there is no shock morality and decency I feel super bad for your kids and why don't broach the subject of a three-way with dude and your BF and see the tone shoot

Nicole Mitchellyour last sentence means but that's okay you can feel bad for my kids that doesn't bother me in the least okay and then we have uh let's see we have Slow Joe oh that one did that one already

Brian Atlastriggers a TTS yeah we did that one shooting John's uh okay we have Frankie K here thank you for the 100 soup chat man uh I think it's about to cut oh wait this one's leaves

Brian Atlasbiotech stocks are my bread and butter right now yo big Pharma thank you for the hundred sukh madik very very much appreciated sukhmadique

Brian Atlasum all right we have Frankie K to the pegging enthusiasts you left your husband kids and religion because your ex couldn't lay down pipe to your liking of getting late is the most important thing in the world to you what are you going to do with yourself when no one

Nicole Mitchellwants you anymore I will always want me and that's what matters at the end of the day wait I thought she was the Oh no you're the pegging Enthusiast yeah I love it I mean it doesn't maybe there's another pegging enthusiasm I just had a bad experience yeah yeah that's right I

Chasewanted to call myself an Enthusiast she's got that Pagan trauma pegging trauma all right let me see and then we have uh pptsd yeah I was pegging dramatic stress disorder there we go and

Giselethen we have Liam La go ahead Chase and the girl in the white shirt where in the Bible does it say that having multiple wives are bad can you give a specific example also David and

Lila RoseSolomon differ you want this one well Jesus himself says that we allowed you to divorce and that was wrong and marriage is between one man and one woman this is a man that never got

Chasemarried wait what that's true oh Jesus Jesus yeah he was also the Son of God and the ultimate Authority on mankind so um also in Genesis it says the same right after God creates Adam and Eve he

Chasesays this is why How does it go this is why a man leaves his parents or Amen to his wife yeah and the two become one one flesh so the polygamy thing was actually not

Lila RoseGod's original design but it was it people did it because they have free will right people can choose to do things like that and in the end it's not it wasn't God's solution to have sex with I will also hold on I

Chasewill also add to one of the commit God told the Israelites not to accumulate three things wealth chariots and wives because he said that the three things would to to collect those three things would turn their hearts from God

Brian Atlaschariots yeah so like cars and [ __ ] uh basically growing their armies right oh chair so the Chariots are like cars but like Olden cars like yeah ancient whips

Chasebro so if the Israelites happened I'm gonna I'm gonna keep buying Lambos yeah the point the point was don't he was telling the Kings don't put your faith in your armies rather than me

Chaseright and he was also telling them don't collect multiple wives because they'll turn your hearts for me and you look at the kings that did that Solomon being the best example it turned his heart from the Lord

Justin Walleron the topic of Chariots Justin how many chariots do you have um quite a few chariots you said you had a Lambo no I actually just gave my position my myself permission after I

Justin Wallerbought my last big property to buy Lambo so I'm gonna pull the G-Wagon back to Louisiana with the King Ranch and put a Lambo in Miami let's go Justin was not

Justin Wallersorry yeah well not sorry about anything what's your favorite whip my favorite vehicle that I have is my is my um G-Wagon because it's one of 200 a

Justin Wallerspecial edition it's it's nasty bro it's great I'll show it to you did you what's special about it did you get it like bulletproof or like what's up no man it's just it was just a special model

Justin Wallerone of 200 in the world and I saw it and I fell in love with it it's just it's just bro if you've ever wanted to [ __ ] a vehicle yeah that's this G wagon how's that how's that stereo system in it it's

Ellegood all is good bro I don't know why yeah it's good for sure that's the one place he'll give his whole heart to what's that car no I'll just buy another one oh okay

Justin Wallerso uh just curious so you're are you part-time in Dubai part-time in the South and then part-time in Florida so I have my place in Florida I have a big house in Louisiana and my house in Dubai is being

Justin Wallerbuilt right now it's a it's an 11 000 square foot I'm super pumped about it it's gonna have a gym send them a private beach infinity pool and across from the Tates so I can wave

Justin Wallerwith my multiple wives or one wife depending on what day is it on that island or whatever no no it's not on the birds but they're building it that way so it's a whole community that is going

Justin Wallerto mimic the Mediterranean so we're going to live in the neighborhood Venice but they're going to have Morocco and all like all the different you know Mediterranean cities uh in the development outdoor movie theaters coral reefs is going to be incredible I'm

Justin Wallerreally excited about it it's called The lagoons if you look at all the lagoons okay are you are you uh are you going to become a citizen of uh is it the Au no I'll get the golden Visa

Justin Wallerbecause of the investment in the country but I have no interest right now in renouncing my citizenship I'm very patriotic I believe in America I think America's a goat I believe anybody that doesn't love America can get the [ __ ]

Justin Wallerout let's go I'm very very much for America starting to come together and stop hating each other and writing from within let's let go of the gender the race Wars the whole thing like we are the [ __ ] goat and any nobody wants to

Justin Wallersmoke so if we can fix that internally we'll stay the greatest and um I'm not coming off of that until they take my gun rights away let's go based I have a I have a question um I don't know if you intend to have

Justin Wallermore kids if you do how would you like would you intend to shuttle them between your property yeah like like one of my daughters has been to Dubai multiple times I fly my kids all over the world uh FaceTime watch them go to

Justin Wallersleep at night I'm a good father when I'm home we're playing basketball every night at Sunset um I'm making birthday parties I'm doing all that [ __ ] I'll be the best ad on the planet I have a lot of free time if I

Justin Wallerneed it because of the way I work in the in the in the career that I've built and I'm getting paid in my sleep so I'll be there as much if not more than the next guy and most importantly in a world where men have gone to war for years and

Justin Walleryears and years or I have 200 employees in my construction company that live on the road I'm going to be a very impactful father they're not going to forget their moments with me because they're going to be moments that they'll never forget you know and I'm trying to create that kind of magic in my

Justin Wallerchildren's lives and then when they get of age I'm going to start you know teaching them how the world works like I said make them competent enough to create choice in their life and whatever choice they choose after that is fine with me they can go whatever route they want I'll still love them I'm not here

Justin Wallerto dictate their life I'm here to be impactful in it whether you know whether you can get behind it or not or whether that's what Jesus wants me to do I don't know but there's going to be love for sure I gotta ask another question hypothetically you have a hundred kids

Justin Wallerright I'm not I'm not going to do that by the way what what where would you set the max at 40 40. I'm talking [ __ ] I don't know I have no idea I don't have plans to like I don't have this big plan

Justin Wallerfor kids I'm just keeping keeping the amount of kids I have vague maybe I have maybe I have four maybe I have ten I'm just trying to keep it vague question would you adopt if you wanna hell no no

Justin Wallerno no no no no no no no okay damn it I want it my genetics are way too [ __ ] good to adopt no no way yeah that option is

Justin Wallerbeautiful yeah good for you not me hahaha is it is Dubai like really pretty I've never been beautiful it's a society that sustains itself unlike Southern California there's no homeless on the street there's real order you [ __ ] around I could leave my watch on the

Justin Wallersidewalk you know whether whether you get behind Dubai or not you have to respect to buy and that's something I've lost a lot of a lot of respect for is is some of these beautiful places like South South California I walk through Santa Monica

Justin Wallerother day you couldn't go one block without somebody screaming f-bombs homeless and that's what I talk about when I talk about America we need to clean our [ __ ] up we're we're placating to less than one percent of the population so we don't hurt people's feelings but what

Chaseabout the children walking down the street that want to see the pier you know what about those moments with family you know California you know we actually cut checks for homeless people here in California it's one of the

Dominiquethings that needs to end California pays you to be homeless but wait why is Biden giving money to like the Ukraine why can't you just like get like all the homeless people off the street because

Justin Wallerwar is profitable and Democrats like to do that kind of [ __ ] and inflate the money that's why we left weapons in in you know Iraq Iran you know this the whole thing is [ __ ] I don't want to say too too much because I'm not trying

Lila Roseto get my channel taken down yeah but don't believe what you see I don't California has a lot of issues though it's really sad because I grew up here and watching it go downhill has been pretty sad coming to you live from Santa

Brian AtlasBarbara California beautiful here but yeah California Stan uh as it's called okay so uh I think we have uh this one here from VD cars thank you for the hundred Giselle go ahead at

GiseleLiam La the Bible describes polygamy it does not prescribe it okay VD cars thank you venerio actually does an excellent job showing the

Brian Atlasdownsides of polygamy too the what side the downsides okay we had something here we had to pull up hold on one sec um so Nicole you

Brian Atlaswere on Dr Phil and in that interview you said you never felt more holy sacred or true after your nude photo shoot that is correct

Nicole Mitchellholy yes it's like I can literally I like as I peeled off my layers and it was like literally me before God no hiding no shame nothing and I never felt more alive and connected to who I really

Nicole Mitchellam in that moment and I got my car afterwards and I bawled because I'm like I found that this is how I was meant to live I I joke but it's kind of serious I was meant to take my clothes off and my whole life I spent covering up being

Nicole Mitchellmodest by someone else's prescription for me when I found that I the truest version of me is when I'm there's nothing between me and God so you don't you don't believe that God is the god of the Bible then no I don't believe in the

Nicole MitchellBible anymore correct so who do you think God is like just some images there is a God maybe there is maybe there's not I'm open so you're an atheist I'd say more agnostic

Brian Atlasum okay and and you also said in that video I saw you said sex workers are typically the healthiest humans um does that include the herpes and HPV you know it's interesting that that's a

Nicole Mitchellstigma because most people the common person who's not a sex worker never gets tested versus sex workers get tested every single month or hot depending how active they are and are the most on top

Nicole Mitchellof their STIs but there's nothing wrong with STIs sdas are common if your person is having sex with another person you're at risk of getting an STI and so we have to drop the stigma that somehow it means to your gross or icky it's just like we're all at risk

Nicole Mitchellfor it and it's just knowing that all sdas are manageable or curable and just get tested it's not a problem no offense or anything but I mean I think herpes is disgusting you might have it most people carry herpes and

Nicole Mitchelldon't even know you're talking about the hs1 virus mouth herpes yeah I'm talking about people I'm talking about like genital herpes yeah most people don't have genitals we actually do the data most people do and they because it's

Brian Atlasasymptomatic majority of the time and it often gets mistaken for a pimple that people don't realize that they have it herpes breakouts are much more severe yeah sure some people are asymptomatic

Brian Atlashowever if you are symptomatic my understanding and from the literature I've seen and what I've seen online photographs it's part of it I'm in a

Nicole Mitchellsexware community we talk about STIs all the time we're very educated versus the research has passed around to scare people like this could happen to you when it's often just a pimple but people don't talk about that because that doesn't scare people away from sex and

Brian Atlasinto absence well I think you're you're now on the opposite side of the propaganda because to conflate her a herpes outbreak with just a pimple I think there are people who have like pretty debilitating breakouts where they're in like severe pain it can cause scarring I

Nicole Mitchellmean there's that might be an extreme case but again majority are asymptomatic never have a flare-up and then for most people outside of that when you have a single flare-up it is the only time you'll ever have it

Nicole Mitchellare we defending her like I'm just yeah I'm trying to destigmatize people having STIs because we're making it sound like it's horrific and it's it's because you're sleeping with all these people you can get it sleeping with one person

Brian Atlasand not even know yeah but if you if you sleep sure right the very and I've I actually knew a girl who the first time she ever had sex was a virgin hooked up with this guy she got herpes right

Brian Atlasum tragic that's pretty rare though and uh I would say the more sexual partners you have uh the greater likelihood you are to eventually get an STD and that's why you do protection that's why you get

Nicole Mitchelltested that's why you communicate up front do you want to use barriers if so what kind there's all kinds of conversations but I find people who are not in the sex work industry just sleep around and hope for the best and never get tested you said that but that's not

Dominiquetrue I don't sleep around a lot like my body Count's not high but I get tested every time I have sex with anyone like everyone do that and also just because you're in the sex industry it doesn't

Kirstenmean you're automatically going to catch something I promise like I again I do only fans and I'm still only sleeping with my boyfriend so it doesn't mean I'm sleeping around with other people just because I have an only Fan's room in the

Nicole Mitchellsex industry it's a common misconception that if you do adult work if you do only fans you sleep with everybody that's not true sure not necessarily I

Brian Atlasmean and I I think sex work is kind of a uh it's yeah it's like that's that's anywhere from like tasteful lingerie to being a street prostitute I think it's not a particularly helpful term and I

Brian Atlasdon't know if lumping these two groups of people really is doing them any any favors but when it comes to like for example STDs uh I I would say that they have done studies and I my

Brian Atlasunderstanding is like for example if you're doing traditional porn where you're doing a new scene with someone every every week whatever maybe I don't know the frequency that's average in in

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