BANNED?! Pastor Turned ØF Girl vs. Justin Waller, Chase | Dating Talk #73

Date: 2023-05-10

Duration: 3h 55m

Guests

Brian Atlas

NNicole Mitchell >

KKirsten (DT76)>

BBrianna (DT73)>

CChase (DT118)>

JJustin Waller >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Nicole Mitchell(guest)

SPEAKER_02Crew(audience)

SPEAKER_03Gisele(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kirsten(guest)

SPEAKER_05Elle(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lila Rose(guest)

SPEAKER_07Justin Waller(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Chase(guest)

SPEAKER_10Brianna(guest)

SPEAKER_12Madison(audience)

SPEAKER_13Dominique(guest)

Key Moments

IntroNicole Mitchell introduces herself as "the pastor turned stripper" and OnlyFans creator, age 39.

IntroJustin Waller introduces himself: real estate/construction, age 37.

QuoteBrian announces he was permanently banned from Hinge for using it to recruit show guests; shares tip on getting refund via Apple App Store.

QuoteKirsten reveals she makes ~$70,000/month on OnlyFans (top 0.09%); says she would quit if her boyfriend earned enough for her to be a stay-at-home partner.

QuoteKirsten shares Lyme disease story: diagnosed after 9 months of debilitating illness, recovered via holistic doctor in Indiana.

QuoteDominique leaves show twice and returns notably less sober each time; panel suspects bathroom substance use; she claims she drank sink water.

QuoteChase reveals he has been celibate for 3 years to honor God; body count is 7.

ControversyJustin Waller calls Lila Rose "annoying in a goody two-shoes type way" after repeated questioning about his relationship structure.

QuoteJustin Waller states he supports banning pornography in America and credits Dubai's porn block for creating more visible family life there.

QuoteChase reveals he suffered from Lyme disease for 28 years, inherited from his mother who died by suicide from it when he was in high school.

QuoteElle reveals a triple-digit body count (~150-193), noting the majority of her partners were women.

QuoteNicole Mitchell states she does not track her body count; confirms it is under 100 and declines to be more specific, having been married for 12 years.

Topics Discussed

Introductions and announcements

Brian Atlas introduces guests; announces Hinge ban; guests give name, age, occupation, relationship status.

Relationship structures: monogamy, non-monogamy, polygamy

Nicole Mitchell discusses post-divorce sexual liberation and non-monogamy; Justin Waller discusses keeping multiple women while being exclusive on their side; Lila Rose and Chase argue for traditional monogamous marriage; debate on polygamy in the Bible.

OnlyFans, sex work, and society

Panel debates whether OnlyFans empowers or degrades women; body count discussion; Kirsten and Elle share income (~$70k/month and $30k-100k/month respectively); Justin Waller attributes OF proliferation to masculine decline.

Pornography debate and masculinity crisis

Discussion of pornography addiction weakening men; multiple panel members support banning porn; Chase and Justin discuss War Room and building strong men; Lila Rose cites Alfred Kinsey's research as flawed agenda.

Religion, Christianity vs Islam debate

Chase and Lila Rose debate Catholicism vs Protestant Christianity; discussion of Pope Francis; Justin Waller on Andrew Tate's conversion to Islam; Chase wants to bring Tate back to Christianity; debate on whether Christianity has become too weak.

Self-ratings, STIs, and sex ed

Panel rates own looks 1-10; extended debate on STI stigma with Nicole defending destigmatization and Brian/Chase pushing back; Kirsten shares Lyme disease recovery story; Chase shares his Lyme disease history.

Body count discussion

Panel shares body counts; Elle reveals triple digits (~150-193); Dominique leaves and returns appearing intoxicated; Justin's preferred body count limit for relationship candidates.

Building strong men, fatherhood, and closing remarks

Chase and Justin discuss how to fix masculinity crisis; Justin discusses fatherhood and War Room; discussion of ideal age to have kids; closing remarks.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas13 case uh subscribers away so guys if you can take a second go over there drop us a sub we're almost so we can get like another YouTube plaque or whatever um before I have the guests introduce myself I just want to address a couple other things

Brian Atlasum so uh and it's been ongoing for a while now but um I've been having like chronic neck and back pain issues for many years recently had one of the worst flare-ups ever for my neck even with that

Brian Atlasthree-week break I took it's been really bad uh so I'm not and have not been at 100 been dealing like I said dealing with it for a really long time basically operating at 50 um if I was at 100 just be much sharper

Brian Atlasquicker probably do like three or four shows a week but um you're still killing it Brian thank you yeah I try I try I persist even though I'm like in pain over here but um and it and honestly anyone who's ever had any neck issues

Brian Atlasoften comes with headaches and brain fog so you know I see the comments some people are saying like I'm really not on point you guys aren't wrong it's just like hard for me to be as well spoken and articulate as I'd like to be just because I have like some brain fog and

Brian Atlasheadache issues all the time so sometimes I get lost but I'm working on it um so but appreciate you guys who still support me and watch the show despite that which also leads me to this so the last show Chase was on because of

Brian Atlasthe stress and because of some of the pain issues um I lost my cool and um I could have handled it way better basically something came up that I didn't really want to talk about it

Brian Atlascame up and um I kind of uh you know I I lost my cool I got upset at Chase I got upset at um Sam so uh I apologize I apologize to chase after the show just

Brian Atlasunder enormous amount of stress so uh it was a little misdirected wish I handled it better but uh yeah so uh good to have Chase back we're the homies it was just it was just like a 30 second thing and the last podcast yeah I'm not tripping

Brian Atlason it yeah so um Brian's trying to manage a lot here fam yeah there's a lot going on behind the scenes um and just you know trying to get 10 people to show up on time all that actually you know what one quick note

Brian Atlasthere was a girl um who was gonna be on the show today and she said hey I'm gonna be 50 minutes late and you know I wish we could have accommodated her but you know I I have

Brian Atlasthe girls meet at 6 PM we aim to go live at 7 pm oftentimes we end up being like 50 minutes late beyond that but uh you know she flew from Chicago I don't know

Brian Atlasmy understand she I don't know I don't know what the details are I guess she arrived in La last night and somehow still ended up 50 minutes late so I look we can't delay the show for everybody because someone's late so sorry we couldn't

Brian Atlasaccommodate you but I mean 50 minutes late it's a little pushing it you know okay anyways without further Ado after that long-winded introduction we're gonna have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name

Nicole Mitchellage and occupation go ahead hello I am Nicole Mitchell I am 39 years old and I am known as the pastor turned stripper the pastor turned stripper and only fans

Brian Atlasyou do only yes I do only fans and I'm a life coach and did you sorry did you say your age yes 39 39 and you were you have you have kids right yes previously

Brian Atlasmarried yes have you remarried or no no okay got it um okay and uh what then uh what religious denomination I was a Baptist Baptist okay you said you were a

Brian AtlasBaptist yes no longer no are you do you consider yourself agnostic or atheist or agnostic okay yeah yeah sure what about you I'm Kirsten I'm 21 and I do only fans in social media

GiseleI'm Gisele I'm 22 and I stream on Twitch for fun I wouldn't say I have an exact occupation okay um Brianna I'm 23m oh closer to the mic

Briannaplease Brianna I'm 23 and same closer and closer Brianna I'm 23. um I really don't have an occupation either

Ellewhat are you a student or um yeah I'm currently enrolling back into school right now okay what's up I'm Elle

Elleum I am an only fans model primarily but I also did cosmetology school and um real estate age oh I'm 21. freshly

Dominiquehi I'm Dominique I'm 23 and my occupation is like um like I host at like poker games

DominiqueI like celebrities houses so they're legal but not really because so you hosted a legal Pokemon this is what you're saying well because they're

Dominiqueat houses so technically like you should be gambling at a casino but like you know so they're legal but yeah okay is fair enough air quotes okay all

Lila Roseright what about you I'm Lila Rose I'm 34 and my occupation is the president of live action and I'm a writer and a speaker and a mom okay what is uh what is live action by the

Lila Roseway we're a human rights organization defending children in the womb mothers Fathers and Families So based

ChaseI'm Chase 28 years old professional photographer and brand consultant Justin real estate Construction age

Brian Atlas37. all right cool um so before I go around again and get everyone's uh relationship status and whatnot need to address one other thing

Brian Atlasum so oh Madison do you want to introduce yourself wait can you see me yeah there we go Archduke Franz Ferdinand the seventh

Brian Atlassorry I didn't mean to get your name okay there we go perfect beautiful thank you what's your age 139 oh Jesus okay from Beyond the Grave

Brian Atlasokay cool a true veteran a true veteran of the uh of uh was it World War one yeah okay

Brian Atlasum okay um so announcement I was banned off of hinge shocker I know it's so over it's done it's done now let me tell you why I was

Brian Atlasbanned air can you pull up the uh the band notification your account has been removed you've been banned from using hinge for violating our terms of service okay so let me explain it the band

Brian AtlasHammer finally came down I was permaband from hinge and I was using hinge to get guests to be on the show for months so I'm actually surprised for nine months did

Brian Atlasthey specify what they didn't specify they didn't specify but that was the only reason I was using hinge was to get guests for for the show uh granted that is a bannable offense so I'm not surprised

Brian Atlasum you know you're supposed to be on the dating app for dating purposes but it's kind of interesting they don't mind uh if chicks are using it to promote their Instagram or only fans but uh I think I'm the sole guy doing the reverse

Brian Atlasfinesse so I'm doing what basically thousands of women are doing you know they put their Instagram and the dating profiles and I get banned um by the way oh really quick uh thing I got a full so I paid for their premium thing so I could just like

Brian Atlasbecause I think on hinge you can only send to eight messages a day so I just paid for their premium thing so I could just like blast blast out the invites I got a full refund on my 150 prepaid hinge Plus or premium whatever it's called just some quick game for any of

Brian Atlasyou gentlemen who get banned from the dating apps and you're paying for the premium uh in the terms of service for hinge they say if they get if you get banned they won't refund you however

Brian Atlasum and by the way I prepaid so six months 150 bucks uh so you could get banned for a week after paying 150 and they won't refund you but if you paid via the Apple App Store and Eric if you

Brian Atlascould pull that up here so it's against the terms of service on the app store for an app actually here I'll pull it back for a sec it's against the terms of service on the app store for an app to deny you service you paid

Brian Atlasfor so if you do get banned on any of these dating apps and you paid for their premium thing just saying you can get a little refund you know same report that to Apple they'll give you a full refund Eric pull it up really quick

Brian Atlasum yeah you just go to this page just type that thing into uh the top and uh yeah you can do it anyways I'm totally irrelevant but whatever okay go around the table current relationship status are you single friends with benefits

Brian Atlastalking stage situationship relationship Merit married engaged whatever and what's your longest relationship go ahead ooh I am currently dating slash in my [ __ ] face

Brian Atlasprimary marriage which was 12 years wait are you divorced currently yes can you hold on you're currently in your what [ __ ] phase if that's okay for you YouTube

Brian Atlasum okay did you just did you just send the asterisk I sent you I sent a nuclear missile hold on we sent it again we're so bad oh my sorry [ __ ] it went oh my holy okay

Nicole Mitchellum how long ago did you get divorced three years ago how long has your [ __ ] phase been um three years did your phase start before or after the divorce after I got divorced it's

Nicole Mitchellactually been really healing like after being super religious and super conservative and censored and control controlled when you finally get out on your own and ask yourself like what do I want what brings me alive what makes me

Nicole Mitchellfeel connected and I found out it's not being monogamous it's not being married it's actually being open and available for amazing connections with people laughs

Brian Atlasthat's amazing by the way it's now part of the stream I have so many questions wait so you said did you say proud [ __ ]

Nicole Mitchellphase I'm just oh yes I'm very very it's been healing healing's the word I I use for it what's been healing my [ __ ] phase so for me I've been raised in the indoctrination that my job as a woman is

Nicole Mitchellto please my male partner my husband and as a woman I was not given pleasure because that wasn't it didn't have to be reciprocal getting divorced and discovering my sexuality I learned my pleasure is just as

Nicole Mitchellimportant of a right and so now I get to have that with different people find out what I like what I don't like have different experiences to find out what turns me on what turns me off and that's healing to know yourself and to learn yourself and to feel good with your

Lila Rosepleasure and not limit it because of what someone else thinks you should do with it Nick was that presented as Christianity to you that the man just gets the pleasure and the woman doesn't get any pleasure I mean I think it was more experience it was more caught than

Nicole Mitchelltaught I think they would they would say it's equal but in practice it was my job as a woman to support the man and whatever he wants and so you just learn this messaging of well what I want isn't

Nicole Mitchellas important though if you if I confront to them they say no no no no you're just as important but not impressive you don't experience that in your marriage it sounds like not the way I think it should have been correct I'm sorry to

Lila Rosehear that yeah because I think an authentically Christian marriage the man gives his life for the woman and absolutely equal sexual pleasure is very important that so I'm sorry that you

Brian Atlasdidn't experience that in your marriage yeah thank you uh and you said did you say what your longest relationship was yeah it was my marriage which was 12 years okay gotcha

Nicole Mitchell12 years but you're currently single dating yeah dating when you say you're dating what do you mean you have a couple boyfriends yeah this is the first time I have non-monogamous so I'm dating

Brian Atlasa person but I have sexual experiences with other people as well okay so would you consider that person you're dating boyfriend yeah my partner your partner is it a boyfriend girlfriend yeah it's a guy it's a guy okay so how long have you

Nicole Mitchellbeen seeing him um a couple years oh you've been seeing him a couple years like a month after the divorce uh several months several months after divorce I've been divorced for three years okay so yeah okay and then so

Brian Atlasyou say there's other guys in the picture mostly women oh mostly mostly women okay um how many women are in the picture I know um as many as I desire it really depends

Nicole Mitchelllike it depends on the um who I feel connected to um where I'm at um I go sometimes to different locations specifically for an experience so it's just

Nicole Mitchellmore flowy than I'm dating a guy and a girl it's more like what kind of experience do I want to have and are there any other guys right now no not right now okay when you uh got married to your

Nicole Mitchellex-husband how long into the marriage did you realize you weren't going to be pleased in the way that you wanted to oh I think I knew even before we were married so we had sex before marriage and I had so much guilt around it

Nicole Mitchellbecause you know that was taught that's a sin and it wasn't good but because I was sinning I can't complain right and so then you get married and you think it's going to get better but then really that taste of what I had before marriage

Nicole Mitchellwas the substance but at that point you're married and I would advocate for myself and say I'm not getting as much pleasure can we focus on me and there was some effort but in the end it wasn't

Nicole Mitchellreciprocated we for me we were not sexually compatible and I think that's part of why my [ __ ] phase has been so healing is I will never marry someone without having sex with them first because if we are not sexually compatible I am not signing up to being

Nicole Mitchellyour partner for life I we need to I need to know for a good fit if we're a good match if the pleasure is beneficial Mutual then I'm open to considering long term with you are you looking at getting

Brian Atlasmarried again not right now it's Tuesday maybe maybe down the line maybe someday so when you say a [ __ ] phase what do we when are we talking here so for me guess what that it's me

Nicole Mitchellreclaiming that word usually it's used as an insult for a woman who is sexually empowered it's used to like make a woman think like she's too loose and has no morals and values um so it just means I have sex with who

Nicole MitchellI want when I want and I don't have to limit it based on society's expectations religions rules it's based on my desire and what's right for me

Nicole Mitchellokay so do you you object it sounds like you object to this term [ __ ] no I love it I love it when like we can reclaim it when someone tries to use it against me like that's when it's like

Nicole Mitchellwhen people try to insult you with words I think part of the power is when you take it back and make it yours so I've reclaimed it so you can call me a [ __ ] I'm like thank you I am um but that's just for me okay um we'll come back to some of that stuff

Brian Atlaslater we'll have we'll give everyone the opportunity here to uh share Uh current relationship status in your longest relationship um I relationship for

Brian Atlasokay okay um go ahead um I'm single and my longest relationship has been one year oh sorry one question for you your name's Kirsten correct yeah

Brian Atlasum so you said your current boyfriend is that your CR you said you've been dating your current boyfriend for two years okay um because you wrote a note here I think

Brian Atlasat some point that um your first encounter with a boyfriend you were dating you had a unique encounter where

Kirstenno first time ever there was a pegging incident yeah so when I was like 16 this is my very first boyfriend going

Kirstenwithout this massive strap-on and asked me to pick him no way horrible yeah what was your response I just looked at him in disbelief like I barely even knew what sex was at this point and he hands

Kirstenme literally another dick and he's like can you shove it in me and I'm like what did you just say to me how big was it it was probably a good eight or nine inches

Kirstenlike it was pretty [ __ ] massive so then what happened oh I didn't do it I left I walked right out of his basement it was in a basement too okay mom's

Brian Atlasbasement yes it was at his parents house and we broke up after that one this guy's a [ __ ] not surprising dude asking virgins to peg him in his mom's basement like yeah well the [ __ ] chance to be the greatest troll of all

Kirstentime that was crazy don't get me wrong I don't but like it was my first time you're just gonna whip that [ __ ] out on me just caught me off guard a little bit wait so you broke up with him I did yeah wait but okay you see you said it was your

Kirstenboyfriend um boyfriend kind of talking it was like one of those awkward High School relationships how long have you been talking a couple months maybe how old was he

Kirstenhe was 18. how many other how many other girls had he busted out that piece on I don't know do you know because we went to the same high school together yeah she's heard that story a few

Ellefeet the first girl that I've heard he's tried that on so the question is what kind of pornography is that guy watching I think that that's okay right I'm sure I'm sure there's a category just for him somewhere somewhere

Justin Wallerpretty messed up Justin what do you think about that I think this show doesn't even need me

Brian AtlasI think he's doing just fine bro just like how he didn't need Kirsten no comment no comment um yeah that's uh he could have at least saved it for like the third time you know like to be a gentleman like at

Chaseleast wait a little wait how how long how long had you guys been talking three years a couple of months yeah it wasn't long at all that's such a bold move that's it was crazy wow okay all right

Brian Atlasuh Giselle sorry what you said you currently single and your longest relationship was a year correct yeah okay what about you in a relationship and my longest relationship was into the mic into the

Briannamic I'm in a relationship and my longest relationship was about two years or so okay I am single thank you for the reminder

ElleI've been single for two and a half years um I honestly prefer it that way um but my longest relationship was five years

Elleum this like the guy that I dated for five years I was with him from before I started uh high school and then until after um it was very on and off a lot of

Ellepeople in our high school called me a ping pong ball because I would go between him and his best friend is that like your nickname oh I had a lot of nicknames well what were some of your other nicknames

ElleI just didn't do that one actually what were her nicknames the the biggest one that I remember was what was it like the hobble Goblin oh hobgoblin yes yes that was a real one that's a real one I'm

Ellesurprised she remembers that why where did that come from so my my ex-boyfriend and his best friend and the other ones they used to call themselves goons and

Elleso because I was a girl in their group I was a hobgoblin I don't know I couldn't tell you I was in the middle of nowhere surrounded by you know cornfields and

Elledumbasses so I don't know goon in the Hobgoblin yeah no they actually called their mom s why it was that

Elleone of their moms and so they always said that I mommed them so they also called me the same thing that they called their mom what's your current nickname l yeah wait so you said you were going

Elleback and forth between your sort of boyfriend and some other dude so I dated um the god the the main guy that was for

Ellefive years um on and off and he usually would date one of my friends so to rebel and do the same thing

ElleI never said it was mature I was literally like 15 to okay 17 but okay just being honest but um yeah no I'm I'm openly pansexual now so what does that mean yeah

Ellesuper attracted to kitchenware I'm just kidding uh it just means that I am like it just means that I'm like open to

Elleanything I'm not I'm more attracted to intelligence um than and like who a person is the conversation I have with them their energies so like that basically includes like

Ellemore than just men and women it also includes non-binary trans any any category of that sort I'm pansexual as well

Dominiqueso a pansexual means that you date just anything based off just the vibe so like it could be boy girl trans okay cool how is that different how is that different than bisexual

Elledrag for this but like

Ellebut like you like men you like women but being pansexual means that you don't care about gender or any of that you're just into somebody for who they are despite that I've dated non-binary

Brian Atlaspeople many times so and people that are in transitioning whatever the West Has Fallen oh um okay so and you said you're

Brian Atlasyou said you've been single for two how long 2.5 years like over two years yeah okay all right last person I dated was a female

Dominiquewas a female okay what about you um like am I in a relationship right now current relationship status longest relationship okay so I am single my

Dominiquelongest relationship I've only ever had one boyfriend my whole life and we did it when I was 18 and until we did first six months and then like broke up for

Brian Atlaslike two and then we dated for three months so nine months total and you said there was a two-month break in between yeah so were you seeing other people during that break no was he

Dominiqueum no I was his second like girl ever had sex with so okay yeah okay so he didn't see anyone and then like we got back together because like he begged me

Brian Atlasand I gave him another he begged you yeah can like you reenact the begging like was he on his knees like was it was like an easy Boombox over the head outside text messages yeah like it was like the whole Boombox thing oh yeah

Dominiqueyeah what song did you play doubt that um yeah no I was being facetious but um I was too he but I know I caught on great minds think of like um he

Dominiqueyeah no he didn't do that he just like begged me to get back together and then we did how long did it last forever well so he

Dominiquewas like okay he was kind of like like I um closer to myself okay I was like I was young you know so I thought I was like in love and like he was like kind

Dominiqueof a bum like because he was like he got kicked out of his parents house and he was living in the back of his truck um and in his camper and so I was trying

Dominiqueto help him and like be like Captain Save A Hoe but like for a guy so I let him like live at my house with me and then like I was just like okay you gotta go because he would like get fired from

Dominiquelike every union job he had because he would show up to like set like late like you have to be there at 6 30 in the union that's like the most important thing is like show up on time and like he was always late so I was just like

Lila Roseyou're kind of a bum so like we're over sorry smart move yeah yeah don't don't marry a bum yeah it's good advice don't do it okay uh

Lila Rosewhat about you the questions uh relationship yeah kind of relationship status married and the longest relationship is my marriage okay almost five years very cool okay yeah I'm currently single longest

Brian Atlasrelationship is like a year and a half I always keep that a mystery seven years all right mystery seven

Brian Atlassixty girls that Justin's talking to now don't have a clue you keep whether you're married I'm kidding I'm kidding do you um do you have can you at least confirm if you have like one girl or do

Brian Atlasyou kind of date multiple people cannot confirm can I wish I could and I wish I could that means it might be multiples of something um is there how about this confirm or

Chasedeny is there a harem cannot confirm or deny can you confirm or deny if you're voluntarily celibate what the [ __ ] I

Ellecan't do that yeah I'm definitely not voluntarily Justin hello he literally has a welcome mat right under his nose

Justin Wallersays the Hobgoblin sucking dick sucking dicks in cornfields roasted yeah okay I can take it smoke okay

Justin Wallerall right cool um so uh let's see here I have a question yeah Justin do you ever see yourself getting married no not on paper no absolutely not I believe in love and marriage and in regards to taking care of a woman fully

Justin Wallerand your responsibilities as a father and a provider and protector 100 in fact I think that's probably what's broken about the world but in regards to letting the state get into all my businesses that took me over a decade to

Lila Rosebuild absolutely not know how do you think you're gonna get to the place of that marriage you want with that family and that Lifelong Love I didn't say I didn't

Justin Wallerhave family or children I just said I'm in your business oh I see okay so you want to keep it private is what you're saying that's what I said do you Justin I might have multiple family you never know I might like

Justin Wallerfamily more than you so much I have five do you think that's a good thing to have multiple families I think it's good if there's one dad and there's not a bunch of step parents involved and the dad can be the hero and those five families live a 10x better life than they would have

Lila Roseotherwise yes ma'am I do but you don't think that it will be ultimately a an opportunity for jealousy or disharmony amongst women are always going to be jealous what's changed about that women been jealous all the way through time so

Justin WallerI'm not jealous in my marriage I don't care about your marriage I'm talking about mine well my life is going to be so I don't answer to you so that's my answer I'm gonna run my my situation exactly how I want to and generally when

Justin WallerI do that that's when I have the most happiness let's say in my life so so and you would want that for your daughters yeah

Justin Walleryeah I live my life unapologetically on my terms so if my daughters that are overly spoiled and and educated in every way and have friends all over the world and World traveled in the best schools in the world if they have a problem with me at the end of the day then they can

Justin Wallerkick rocks too I I'm not going to simp for my daughters I'll love them fully but if they grow up and turn into a person that doesn't want to get in line with me or at least look here's my goal as a parent teach my children how the

Justin Wallerworld Works give them the skills so they can live on their own terms and give them choice if they choose not to make me part of their life after I've given them those things I've still succeeded as a father but I guess I'm asking if you're comfortable answering obviously but are you wanting to be a role model

Justin Wallerfor your kids is that part of a thousand percent a father should show up in every way for his children I think I'll be better than most fathers regardless of how many children I have I might have a hundred but you think part of being a role model it's okay for your kids not to know even their your relationship

Justin Wallerstatus with their own mom they will know the relationship status with me and their mother but you have other relationships with other women what does that have to do with anything wait I'm just wondering if you think I haven't even said that I'm just saying like if I want to I will but you don't

Lila Rosethink that's a problem for your daughter to know that about their dad that that he has multiple Mysteries that's up to my daughter man you know but do you want your daughter to have a guy like that long term if he takes care of her in every way and she

Justin Wallerhas a much better life because of it yeah I'm cool with that wait do you want to have 100 kids sound like I might have a bunch of kids yeah I believe in having kids man so there's there's too many dumb ass people having kids might as

Chasewell have a smart person have some dude it's Justin Loki about to repopulate the world kids are awesome single-handedly reverse the declining they got all these single women out here

Justin Wallertalking [ __ ] about [ __ ] man well cool I'll have babies with you what's up now part of it is being a smart ass right now right to be honest but I look if if a god decides to have a bunch of

Justin Wallerchildren I mean you see it happen all the time God gets married he's a shitty father shitty husband ends up getting a divorce and then goes have and has babies with the next chick doing the same thing I'm doing this up I'm not a lion coward about it I hear you I I see

Lila Rosethat this is what it is but I think the big question is I mean it seems like you're really focused on self-improvement which is awesome and so I guess my question would be is it ID like what are we striving towards individually right and what do we think

Lila Roseis best for society and I think kids want to know their parents love each other and are committed till death do they part to each other yep didn't say any of that wasn't true but if you're the one saying that's not true okay but

Lila Rosedo you think it would be a little bit um confusing for one of your kids if they found out let's say Theory no because if they trust me enough to come to me I'll just tell them the truth what are we talking about I'm not hiding from anything I just told you I understand that it seems like you're challenging because you have a problem with it I

Justin Wallersimply don't care so your your kids are saying you don't care if they find out you have multiple Mistresses if I had multiple women and then my kids came to me then I would just talk to them like a

Justin Wallerlike an adult if they're adult enough to ask I'm adult enough to tell them well whatever they ask I'm there for you that's it find somebody else I don't feel bad I'm gonna live in truth here's the

Justin Wallerdifference between me and most men most men are doing this [ __ ] behind people's back right like a [ __ ] coward and they're not even giving the family the life that they deserve so if I choose to do that in the future which I have not

Lila Rosesaid I'm going to do then so be it but if I don't I don't hear ya I guess that you're saying you don't want to share your relationship status but then you just said you people hiding it and be

Chaseso I guess I think there's a difference between not wanting to share one's relationship status publicly on a platform like this versus when I have a big internet following and like offices that you can Google and all kinds of things like that I don't want

Brian Atlasto I don't want that smoke for people in my life I see yeah that makes sense uh just just one thing related to the well not related to this uh is the audio okay guys because sometimes we have issues with uh the number two and I just uh want to

Brian Atlasmake sure can you guys hear Justin okay one in the chat if you can hear Justin okay guys I want to make sure that you guys hear him all right one in the chat if Justin's coming through okay looks like a lot of ones audio is good

Brian Atlasokay perfect thank you guys um I have a question on this Justin so yeah um I know you can neither conf confirm nor deny the current situations but let's it sounds like perhaps there have

Brian Atlasbeen times where you're seeing multiple women so what is the pitch to a girl that you won't be loyal is it is it overtly

Brian Atlascommunicated is it just an understanding like what what's the what's the cell what's the pitch to a girl basically because you say you're open with it with the girls how do you pitch it I mean first of all generally they kind of know

Justin Wallerup front you know if they slide in my Instagram DMS and they see my life it's like they're like are you really that surprised and so there's questions you could ask to to see if a girl's bi or not I might joke around ask her blondes brunettes early on sure you know what

Justin WallerI'm saying and see what she says just to check if she see if she's bi or not and and look I don't coach game I'm just like super honest and then another thing is by the time a girl really sees me online she's already listened to my content and listen to things I've said

Justin Wallerso they already I mean they would know the truth you know right um I'm probably gonna ratchet back you know some of these dating type shows just because I feel like I've had the same conversation a million times and just do more of the business stuff but

Justin Wallerum by and largely my content as a filter you know and and I get I get DMS from women all day you know just basically saying hey I at least appreciate you telling the truth I got cheated on got lied to

Brian Atlaset cetera et cetera et cetera so um there's not much screening I really have to do okay you know I mean but have there been any instances I assume perhaps maybe some of the women you approached or they

Brian Atlasweren't familiar with you I mean what because you say you're open with the girls and yeah and uh you know let's say to all the G's out there that they're trying to level up and they kind of want to you know they want to have well you know what I would say first I would say

Justin Wallerfirst that having multiple women is not the goal I don't think that's a good goal for a young man you know I think working on yourself completely and absorbing and having a lot of women come to you as a goal um for example like let's say that you're married and you have a loving

Justin Wallerrelationship I don't think there's anything in the world wrong with that at all but I want that for you and everything well too bad that's not what I want so that's my business not yours but what I'm saying is is that if I'm in a situation with a woman and she thinks she wants to leave

Justin Wallerbecause I have let's say more girls okay cool you can leave me for a man that you love less that will cheat on you anyway if he could I'm not doing anything any other man would not do if he could maybe her husband couldn't doesn't but you

Justin Wallerknow for the sake of the conversation I think most men if they could would have the option of having multiple women now it has also been my experience that I can only love one person at a time and so that said there there's you know

Justin WallerI think there's only one spot in my heart as far as you know long-term commitment and when I look at long-term commitment I look at protecting providing being there fully emotionally a person's best friend I mean ride or

Lila Rosedie like really there with them even if they're upset or jealous can I ask you one more question far away okay if you have replaced in only one place in your heart for one woman or you want to have

Lila Roseone woman in your heart I think you said why don't you just commit to one and choose to be faithful to her I'm just not wired that way I spent my whole 20s trying to fix myself

Lila Rosecontrol you you work out you do business you can possess your own your own power and just direct it but that's not how I am that's not how I am do you think that might be a limited mindset I think it's none of your business but I

Justin Wallerdon't want you to think I'm triggered by you I'm not I saw somebody say that and I think that's interesting I think you're annoying but I'm not sure you know what I'm saying no you are you're annoying in like this goody two shoes

Justin Wallertype way and that's fine uh I'm gonna live my life on my terms Unapologetic unapologetically like truly so uh you can ask me this 85 different ways at the end of the day I'm gonna walk out of here the same man

Justin Wallerand any woman in my life that you either accept that or leave and that's not a threat that's hey this is what I offer if that works for you okay if it doesn't you can go there's plenty of people that are in hot wife relationships they're

Justin Wallerswingers they're gay none of those people get questioned the way I do yeah none of those people could question the way I do I'm one of very few men that can actually come out inside and on my on the top of my head there's probably a handful the Tate Brothers being some of them and then a couple of my other

Justin Wallerfriends that can actually openly say this how I'm going to live I'm gonna live on my terms and guess what women don't leave us for it I cannot think of a woman that has left me over telling them that yeah some women like that yeah some of them are like oh my God that's

Justin Wallerso sexy so no woman wants a man that other women don't want and by and largely I think that women are attracted to it that little bit of dread in them that little bit of competition and I don't mind providing that atmosphere for them at all and I'm not sorry I kind of

Justin Wallerhave a question so um I hate that I talk about this so much actually it's not that because yeah it's just like I'm not trying to promote it no no I'm saying like if a young man thinks he

Justin Wallerwants to get married I don't want him to see me and think oh I need to start I need to sit my wife down and tell her if he doesn't actually feel that way but I think you'd be shocked at how many men hate themselves over the fact that they want multiple women and they're scared that everybody's going to reject them

Elleand they're going to get kicked out of their family group their church group their friends and same with women same with women yeah exactly I was just about to say that you know it's the same sense of um of you know especially even from the opposite perspective from mine as as

Elleeven somebody that's only 21 years old I've experienced you know like some a man sometimes wants to be very um protective is a good way of putting it

Elleand and I understand that um fully um and there are certain times where it's like it's hard not to be like the jealous type and I've been in polyamorous relationship well let me be

Justin Wallerclear I'm not polyamorous no yeah that's why I was actually that's my question there are some girls I'm seeing and I don't care as much they like and they like I'm not watching them like yeah I'm like whatever but any anyone that's

Justin Wallerclose to that I'm trying to provide for or possibly have children with and always shut down now you can help me bring women home all day long I'm not trying to leave you out but at the same time like I'm not you're not talking to any other men and and those women are

Ellehappy with that so it is like a it is like what I described kind of like where it's what's mine is mine but yeah what's yours is also mine well I wouldn't I wouldn't say what yours also mine I never thought of it that way but yeah so

Justin Walleryou're going to be protective over your girl like if you really care about her you really really care about her like especially like if you're with a guy and let's say he takes you to a swingers club he probably doesn't love you he's just trying to get a trade-off right I

Justin Wallerdon't know about that because you can't I can't go both ways it may be so maybe so for you I'm just saying any woman I truly care about like I'm not I'm not playing that [ __ ] at all yeah well in that sense though like do you think it's

Justin Wallerfair no I don't think life is fair at all and this particular subject is super unfair I want to be very very clear about that number one I am not promoting it I'm not promoting it in any way not promoting what I'm not promoting that

Justin Wallermen have a bunch of women okay yeah like I'm saying that for me in my life the the biggest struggle in my adult life was filling out of place because of how I felt about it was almost like hey I'm coming out the closet I'm super

Justin Wallerstraight you know um and then number and then number two I'm not promoting what what I'm saying right now is fair at all I don't think it's fair at all I don't think the World's Fair yeah but it and I I might be misunderstanding you but it sounds

Lila Roselike you're saying that some men maybe maybe yourself don't have the ability to be monogamous and so you're choosing to frame it that way I'm telling you how would you like how I want to how would you I would frame it

Justin Walleras it was more of me holding my breath and trying to be something I wasn't

Justin Wallerand you're praying God God please let me not leave this girl I love because I want to sleep with the volleyball team type stuff like the biggest heartbreak in my life was in college I broke up with Miss Louisiana while she's getting ready for Miss America

Justin Wallerbecause not because we didn't get along not because the sex wasn't good not because we weren't like best friends it's because I wanted to sleep with other girls at school yeah and I thought I was doing the right thing and I ended up breaking my own heart you know what

Justin WallerI'm saying and so through my 20s I would I thought something was wrong with me and I was trying to fix it trying to fix it trying to fix it and in time I realized that there was never anything wrong with me at all I just had to live my truth and find

Justin Wallerpeople even if it's just a small group of billions of people in the world maybe it's three to five people that love me for who I am and then I'm at peace because then I don't have to be wrong they don't have to answer to my conscience I can just be myself and for

Justin Wallerthat reason I'm able to put walls down like oh she might catch me and just tell the truth and so instead of loving her 80 90 I can love her 120 and take care of her every way so you can give your whole heart to somebody when you're not living in lives 100 and that was

Nicole Mitchellinteresting for me because I was in a monogamous marriage because I was told that was the only way the right way and then I learned over the years that I'm actually non-monogamous and that was even interesting when I started dating after I got divorced being upfront about it because I know and I said the same thing where people are mad at me because

Nicole MitchellI do in public what they do in secret instead of like instead of hiding I tell people like hey I'm non-monogamous I can't be only with one person for the rest of my life and if you're not cool with that then we're not meant to date but if you are cool or you're meant to

Justin Wallerbe in a different position like you for example over there with your titties out and everything talking about you [ __ ] like yeah Mama when I hear a girl say that I'm like okay well [ __ ] I I take a ride on that you know Ferris wheel but

Justin Wallerit you get put out of the wife bucket for a guy like me but at the same time like I'm not mad at you for saying it because a bunch of people were calling you Haram and stuff like that and and

Nicole Mitchelltechnically maybe it's true but it just for me when I see a girl like that it just it just puts her in a different bucket yeah and I'm happy to be in whatever pocket because it's like I know what I want and if I'm not wife material for you I don't want to be your

Nicole Mitchellwife so it's like to me it's alignment and that's not an issue and you can call me whatever no I'm not here to judge you about it you're at peace I'm at peace and I think that's the biggest thing I learned walking away from the church and religion is how unique every person is

Nicole Mitchelland it's everyone has their own set of morals and values that works for them and I used to think there was right or wrong but now it's like if you're at peace with you that's the most important thing if I'm at peace with me that's the

Ellemost important thing and I've never been more peace in my life so I love those with kindness like despite your disagreements that's why we're in an America in the first place like you're allowed to disagree with other people

Chaseand their opinion America so I wanna I wanna pipe up here I find your uh your perspective interesting Justin I used to want the same thing when I was about 18 years old I I

Chaserealized I was like man I want to have like 30 kids with like 10 different women like I just I wanted a ball out have as many kids as humanly possible and this was when I uh I was not walking with the Lord at this point in time

Chaseand I maintain that dream till about my mid-20s and I realized after some conversations with some friends that were from like Mormon polygamy Cults out in Utah

Chaseyou know my buddy he was in uh his grandfather had like I don't know like 20 wives or something like that and he had like hundreds of grandchildren with all these different women and I asked him about it he was always turned off to religion because of his

Chaseexperience growing up in this family I asked him why and he said the rates of alcoholism suicide all of these different things in his extended family were extremely high a bunch of his

Chasecousins had committed suicide they suffered from severe depression all of these different things and it was because of how big and difficult to manage that extended family was that came from their grandfather and he looked at that and he just hated it

Chaseright and that that really like that really hit home for me and a few years later you know I was reading through the Old Testaments of the Bible and one of the things that you notice about all the Patriarchs in the

ChaseOld Testament right King David King Solomon many of the different Patriarchs they would have multiple children with multiple wives and what would happen is their kids

Chasewould end up warring with one another and they would end up at odds with one another and so you would have this pattern of broken families from men who had practiced polygamy now if that's your choice for your life

Justin WallerI want to be really clear I'm not defining what I'm going to do like I'm not saying I'm going to have multiple wise with multiple women's I'm just keeping it very vague yes yes understood understood and the point that I'm making

Chaseis I I just wanted to share I personally used to want what you've been describing and I wanted to make a ton of money to be able to support it but I came to the point in my life where I realized you know as a Christian I'm a Christian

Chasethe thing that I can do to honor God personally is align myself with his prescription for marriage between one woman and one man I understand that's not your choice but I think part of the wisdom in embracing that and in

Chaseembracing monogamy is you create a very healthy family long term right and like I get a bro I get the desire to want to be with multiple women it's it's in our

Chasefreaking DNA but for me personally that's something I am absolutely willing to sacrifice because it produces more fruit in a family long term I know families and monogamous relation

Nicole Mitchellmarriages that's toxic I know families that are in polyamorous and non-monogamous relationships that are healthy and vice versa so I think it's less about the structure is what determines the health it's the health of the individuals in that relationship you

Nicole Mitchellcan have a monogamous marriage and if the couples are miserable that's going to affect their children you can have couples or thrupples or quads or whatever who aren't they're polyamorous relationship and they're healthy and they're connected and they're communicate they communicate there's

Nicole Mitchellboundaries and that's going to provide more health so I just push back on this idea that there's a prescription that for All Humans this is what you should do when every human is so different and like it's a matter it's a matter of the health of the individual and then who

Kirstenthey're being with then the structure that makes it healthy but if you're sleeping with multiple people what is the point of saying I'm in a relationship with this person like if you're gonna say I'm committing to you what is the point of being in a relationship with them yeah it's a great

Nicole Mitchellquestion so I think it's different for every person so for me since I'm pansexual and I'm non-monogamous I can have someone I deeply deeply love and I still want and desire other experiences and before I was before when I thought I was monogamous I didn't understand it I

Nicole Mitchellthought this I thought the same thing like oh then it's a free-for-all and there's no boundaries and there's no priority but for me it's like oh once I find someone I feel so committed to I don't like that's set that's good and

Nicole Mitchellthen I have these other experiences that actually nurture that so I sold if I had outside sexual activities once I'm in a marriage or in a partnership it would tear apart the relationship based on how I'm wired when I have outside sexual

Nicole Mitchellactivities with other people it actually makes me fall more in love with my person no one told me that and I thought I was crazy but that's how I'm wired it like brings something alive and it makes

Chaseme want to gush love on my person and it's the exact opposite of it so is your dude cool with sharing you with other dudes uh we do women right now so not it wouldn't be with other men just

Nicole Mitchellwomen not yet and why is that um so the way we do it is we like we want to be very intentional about how we do because the most important relationship that matters is us so it's not a free-for-all so for the first part

Nicole Mitchellit was just us we built our foundation we put our Roots down and then we reached the point where like let's start having other experiences and we would just do one and then we'd reflect on it talk communicate was any boundary across

Dominiquehow do we feel and we found that it actually brought us closer together wait do you guys have threesomes oh so the threesomes with the other woman so you and another girl and then him brought

Nicole Mitchellyou guys closer together yes and even my own so because I'm on only fans I make content with girls so I have sex with girls for my work oh you do only fans and that also brings us closer together I had these amazing experiences and I come home and I tell all about the

Dominiquethings and like I feel alive and energized and and did you say you were a mother yes and okay I have to yeah do

Dominiqueyou how old are your kids 7 10 12. and does it because I went to school with or there was a guy uh like his mom drove a pink Hummer and she was a porn star

Dominiqueright and everybody dogged on him because you know and like it sucked for him and I felt really bad do you think that your kids would be affected at some

Nicole Mitchellpoint with like the fact that you did only fans no so I so my kids are very educated at their age-appropriate level but I've asked my teen boys how they feel and I was like do you ever get picked on by your friends and they said

Nicole Mitchellno why would we even have friends like that so their friends don't even know they know they know they do know and they don't care what about other kids at school these are the kids at school that know well I mean like your kids have

Nicole Mitchellfriends and then there's other kids that they're not friends with um I think I mean my little kids but they I don't think their friends know but as they get older their friends know because I'm friends with their moms or their dads or their families and so it becomes knowledge and they just like

Nicole Mitchellcool and then some of my kids are like here's how you can make more money you should try this on Twitch you should do this like they actually like help me and they well Jen's ears yeah like they're just so open-minded they don't have the

Chasestigma and the Judgment that I was raised with yeah I have a question yeah earlier in the conversation you made the statement if I recall correctly you put it as long as you're at peace with your morality that's what matters right

Chasedo you think that this kind of sexuality would be sustainable if it was like all across our society like if everybody operated this way I think a lot of people do operate this way they just do it in secret or behind backs yep on accident and or on accident versus what

Elledo you think the percentage is like more than 10 percent less than 10 the people over 50. oh yeah the people you think it's well over 50 well over 58 of people

Ellethat do what that would rather cheat on their spouse than be openly polyamorous with them and open the lines of communication and calling cap on that I don't think that was actually a study

Kirstendone where 70 of men have cheat on their wives at one point or another yeah but I think 70 of would drag a number I think a big thing a big reason I think it's been at least I think it's way

Chasehigher than the generation that I am in your generation maybe for sure but also also like your your Social Circle like a lot of my friends like most of my friends they're not interested in doing that so this one I

Lila Rosecan understand this was in part by Design design because the sexual Revolution happened right in the 60s and the 70s and there was a sexologist named Alfred Kinsey I don't know if anyone has heard of him but he was he's kind of known as The Godfather or the

Lila Rosegrandfather of sexology today and so his ideology has really influenced a lot of sex ed today and a lot of behavior today and so what he did he wanted to prove that everybody was sexually deviant was the term at the time sexually deviant

Lila Rosethey weren't a monogamous relationships or if they were they'd lie and they were in swinger culture and other kinds of relationships and he wanted to mainstream this idea because he wanted to break down the natural family single mother single father together married

Lila Rosetogether and with with children and so what he ended up doing is he created social data research data and he would actually survey prison populations for

Lila Rosetheir sexual experiences and he would use that and claim that this was representative of the entire population so actually he would say he would ask you know interview convicts or have people interview convicts and who were

Lila Roseinvolved in all kinds of dark stuff and they would share yeah we've been obviously in bestiality rape or we've been involved in having many different partners and then he said this is representative of so 70 or 80 of

Lila RoseAmericans he claimed are involved in swinger culture or polyamory behind closed doors but he was lying is the thing but so you're telling me that stat she just referenced is totally I don't know exactly where you got that set but

Lila RoseI think it might be a Kinsey and Stat because a lot of his statistics kind of created the Groundswell for that mentality and then the problem is you can become a self-fulfilling prophecy right so if everybody thinks oh it's normal to have sex with a ton of

Lila Rosedifferent people it's normal to not be monogamous it's actually good to not be monogamous right that's the message a society tells you it's good to you know porn is good sleeping around is good sex is not a big deal then it kind of becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy

Lila Rosebecause more and more people get sexualized and get you know start down that path and unfortunately in our society too a lot of young girls I mean I heard what you shared Kirsten right it was horrible like with that guy I mean it's ridiculous right but he was

Lila Roseprobably watching porn right so he's being trained by his pornography to treat you like an object I mean he didn't even talk to you about he just did this gross thing to you and you're like what the heck you walk out right but he was trained by porn to do that

Lila Rosethat's not normal like a little boy doesn't grow up and become that naturally as a man he's trained to think and become deviant and messed up I disagree because if you're gay you're gonna want it in the ass and as a woman

Nicole MitchellI love pegging and I didn't learn that from porn it's a desire I had it's like I wish I had a dick sometimes and if I don't I'm gonna buy one so to say that that's like like to say it only comes

Chasefrom porn is like such a when did you first when did you first realize you wish you had a dick sometimes

Nicole Mitchelland have always wanted to [ __ ] most people with two legs like I just like am drawn to having sex and in my 20s maybe the late 20s I think the Curiosity was there and like I didn't watch porn in my 20s I was a Christian in a

Nicole Mitchellmonogamous marriage but I had this desire and I was afraid of it and then I learned that like this is actually a common desire and like I've fulfilled it and I'm like oh my gosh I love this it like resonates with me and it brings me pleasure it brings my people pleasure

Kirstenthat I do this too but outside of it's easy to judge I'm like ew weird gross wrong but inside it's been amazing for me and the people that we participate in but if you're okay if you are happy like having sex with a person you're having

Nicole Mitchellsex with right what is the difference between you having sex with that person you having sex with a different person like why do you feel the need to have sex with everybody it's not a need it's a desire and I think it's learning that it's okay to have desires it's okay if

Nicole Mitchellthey're not mainstream it's like if it's between consenting adults like do what you want like that's another thing like no one's being harmed here no one's being coerced no one's being manipulated it's like I desire this do you desire

Nicole Mitchellthis yes great we're all on the same here's a question do you think all desires should be acted on all sexual desires nope and that's that's a common accusation that's like oh well then you're gonna it bestiality is always

Nicole Mitchellthrown in there which is so ridiculous can we not talk about BCR oh yeah sorry I can't say that conversation but like they say people then assume it's all desired it's like no it's like checking it and asking and what I teach my life coaching is the

Nicole Mitchelldifference between surface desires and Soulful desires what's the surface desire of like God would feel like really good right now is eating an entire package of Oreos dunking them in milk and watching TV for five hours that might feel really good right now but my

Nicole MitchellSoulful desire is just to feel good not feel gross in about five hours so it's like checking beneath that desire and so for me I was always afraid of my sexual desires what does this mean about me am I a cheater am I going to hurt someone

Nicole MitchellI'm like oh I'm just a very sexual person who gets a lot of pleasure and connection out of sex that's actually a gift I bring when I have sex with you it's amazing I bring my whole self to the table and I've had people tell me

Nicole MitchellI've never had something like that I've never been given pleasure like that and to know that I could fulfill that for you that's an honor so I want to go back to my original question yeah if everybody had this same set of

Chasemoralities across the table throughout our whole society how quickly do you think it would take for things to completely fall apart I don't think that would ever happen first of all I don't think that would ever happen no and I because I think you

Brian Atlasdon't you don't think hold on hold on Chase one second oh yeah uh if you guys curse in these it doesn't trigger the robot voice uh wait let's pull it back up and read it yeah I'll pull it back up