CANCELLED?! JustPearlyThings, She Is PREGNANT?! | Dating Talk #76

Date: 2023-05-22
Duration: 5h 28m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Jamie(guest)
SPEAKER_03Gwen(guest)
SPEAKER_05Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Hannah Mariama(guest)
SPEAKER_09Zoe Sin(guest)
SPEAKER_11Elle(guest)
SPEAKER_12Madison Boo(guest)
SPEAKER_13Michaela(guest)
SPEAKER_14Kirsten(guest)

Key Moments

00:19:00
Key MomentKiana Kumani announces she is 5 weeks pregnant. Pregnancy unplanned; father in picture but relationship is complicated.

um I'm pregnant so you're pregnant congratulations um like six weeks or what are we talking about like five weeks

01:01:09
QuotePearl argues she rates herself a 5 because most people are average by definition — if you're an 8, you should have top-20% beauty results.

I say five I think I'm an average chick

02:39:30
QuoteBrian and Pearl discuss MLD 'endure' clip that went viral, defending the full context. Brian states his clear position: if you're being physically abused, get out.

Point Blank period Mike my take is if you're being abused whether emotionally physically whatever it may be but your question is physically abused like get out

02:41:00
ControversyPearl argues false abuse accusations are rampant and we should require evidence before believing abuse claims. Jamie (SPEAKER_02) pushes back, saying she witnessed a friend's abuse and police did nothing.

women cry abuse for everything and we've actually lost the meaning of abuse

02:42:00
QuotePearl discusses working on a divorce documentary interviewing men harmed by false abuse allegations in family court proceedings.

I I'm doing a divorce documentary and so I'm actually interviewing men that are in the process of getting like absolutely wrecked by divorce

03:10:18
QuoteElle reveals her body count is somewhere in the 90-150 range, started at age 15. Has never cheated in a committed relationship.

it's over what I know it's definitely over like 50 probably over 90 probably over 150

03:12:24
QuoteZoe Sin reveals body count ~100+ including a foursome in a Honda Civic at age 19.

I was like 19 I had a foursome with three girls in the back of my Honda Civic

03:30:24
QuoteZoe Sin delivers accountability-focused take: people would stop arguing about these topics if they were truly happy living the life they chose.

if people were truly happy in how they lived life no one would give a [__] about any of this

Topics Discussed

00:00:00
Introductions

Guests introduce themselves (twice due to technical audio failure). Panel includes Pearl Davis (JustPearlyThings), Kiana Kumani (announces pregnancy), Gwen, Jamie, Byronique/Barbie, Elle, Hannah Mariama, Zoe Sin, Michaela, Kirsten.

00:25:00
Relationship status and deal-breakers

Panel goes around on current relationship status, longest relationships, and whether a man who won't go down on his partner is a deal-breaker.

00:59:10
Self-ratings and beauty standards

Debate on objective vs. subjective beauty, golden ratio, cultural differences in beauty standards, and whether self-rating 10 reflects confidence or delusion. Pearl argues most people are average by definition (rates herself 5).

01:15:00
Sex work, OnlyFans, and pornography industry

Discussion of escorting, management agencies, fake titties (show of hands: 3 at table), STD testing, family reactions to adult content, and whether OF models face trade-offs in relationships. Kiana discusses growing up in a Playboy-adjacent household.

02:11:40
OnlyFans management and authenticity

Discussion of management companies for OF creators, whether fans are talking to the real person, and different levels of management involvement.

02:39:30
MLD 'endure' abuse controversy

Discussion of viral clip from MLD's episode where he appeared to say women in abusive marriages should endure. Brian and Pearl defend full-clip context. Pearl critiques broadening of abuse definitions and false accusations in family court.

02:42:00
Pearl's beef and internet controversy

Brian asks Pearl about her current beefs — Brittany Venti hit piece discussed. Pearl's perspective on reaction channels taking clips out of context.

02:48:00
Blue-collar men vs. OnlyFans women

Viewer super-chat question about whether blue-collar men working 80+ hours/week are more overlooked than women on OnlyFans. Panel debates value and desirability.

03:00:00
Alien dating, random questions, and viewer super chats

Viewer asks if panelists would date/sleep with an alien (humanoid). Discussion of Avatar, interracial preferences. Brian attempts to set up Byronique with Chase.

03:05:00
Body count and promiscuity debate

Extended debate on whether body count matters, should it matter, Pearl vs. panel on data about promiscuity outcomes (divorce, antidepressants, STDs). Panel goes around table sharing body counts. Zoe Sin and Pearl largely agree on accountability but differ on prescriptiveness.

04:14:00
After-show with Madison Boo

After main show, Madison Boo (18, Whatever staff 'Easter egg') joins. Super chats read. Guests discuss future show guests (Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Destiny, Ben Shapiro). Brian discusses technical issues (computer crash). Pearl discusses podcasting as a career and potential move plans.

Transcript

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01:00:16
Gwenum like like La for example um on a good day a solid like a strong eight okay I would call myself a 10 but that's
01:00:27
Jamiebecause I'm no matter who it is like no one's ever gonna think I'm the prettiest girl or like there's not ever there's always going to be somebody that thinks I'm ugly so I'm just gonna call myself a 10 and be happy with that
01:00:39
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)I like that you know what I mean well not everybody likes me not everybody has to okay we'll let everybody answer go ahead I'd give myself an eight if I was down south for in the midwest I'd be Beyonce but here in L.A you feel
01:00:52
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)me it really just depends on what part of well we're in Santa Barbara but I'm from La I'm from the hood so in the hood I'm definitely a 10. you feel me but when you go to Beverly Hills stuff like that you you fat you got a belly little
01:01:04
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)fupa then yeah your number go way down so Beverly Hills versus the hood you know let me know more to love baby um I would rate myself like a seven or
01:01:16
Michaelaan eight okay I'd probably give myself a 6.5 or a seven I think it depends on the city and state too like in Florida maybe like a seven but here in California I may be
01:01:27
Hannah Mariamalike a 6.5 yeah I think I'm six 6.5 I think that's about accurate because they're kind of changing my mind I think he has a low balloon but I was gonna say like a like seven or eight but
01:01:40
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)I'm gonna go with the eight I say five I think I'm an average chick oh not pretty what that doesn't mean I don't think there's anything wrong with average Pokemon looks alone
01:01:52
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)I mean I think like there's nothing wrong with being average I think if you take 10 girls at the table like half of us probably are average yeah I think no one wants to be like honest with you just because you're not saying you're a 10 doesn't mean you're not confident
01:02:05
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)either there's a difference between realistic and just not confident I agree completely yeah I just I don't know why like we live in the society where average is seen as a bad thing like most people are average not everyone can be like if you think about if you're an
01:02:17
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)eight that means you're in the top 20 of beauty you should have had top 20 of beauty results so that means um I don't know modeling contracts I don't know you know um eligible top 20 10 men in your
01:02:29
GwenDMs or um have you seen it not not just like like Siri taking you seriously but go ahead there's also been Beauty studies um they've done where they've like had eight faces lined up of different like kinds of beauty Superman model Beauty
01:02:42
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)with the chiseled features and like you know what people actually find most beautiful is most familiar so it's like more the girl next door look that was actually rated the most beautiful or even like somebody like I've noticed
01:02:54
Ellelike the more that I've been around couples um people tend to date people that we kind of resemble them or someone that they love like their mom or something I
01:03:05
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)don't know why that is again it's probably the familiarity thing that she just pointed out but I've I've I've continued to notice more and more since being in La that a lot of people tend to date people that kind of look a little
01:03:17
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)bit like them so it doesn't mean that necessarily like it's the beauty standard it's just beauty Beauty in each Beauty I'd like to say that beauty is not subjective it's objective there's been many studies like people tend to find the same things attractive like
01:03:30
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)people might have like certain types where it differs a little bit but in general like it's not subjective it's yeah and every man woman
01:03:43
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)until like like three years ago when it became popular to have big lips and has someone like yeah and I was bullied for my big lips growing up until it became
01:03:52
Jamielike people were getting lip injectors I'm not going to you hold on base what I think of myself on what anybody else thinks of me I look in the mirror every day and I like what I see yeah but that's still illusion
01:04:08
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)okay then okay in my mind in my mind in my mind in my mind in my mind I'm a millionaire and a PhD
01:04:19
Kirstenin my mind and I feel like that so therefore I am just because you like what you see in the mirror also that doesn't mean that you're a 10. a tennis that you are absolutely perfect so you're saying you don't have any acne your hair is perfect
01:04:32
Kirstenevery single day like you're in the best shape of your life you're saying you have absolutely nothing that you think you can improve on yourself I'm not saying that but I'm saying that I would consider myself a 10. I don't know what other people would call me I think maybe you're thinking in different categories
01:04:45
Hannah Mariamabecause objectively the golden ratio is a measure a measure of facial facial Symmetry and it is objective you can look at someone's face and see how closely they match and so I think when a lot of people say what they're talking about is this is how I measure up to
01:04:57
Hannah Mariamathis ideal standard of beauty though I do think yeah you're right over time or whoever said that over time Society does value different aspects of women's Beauty as time changes
01:05:11
Jamiebut women
01:05:15
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)women make 70 to 80 percent of consumer buying decisions so all the media is marketed towards women it's not for men what men what men likes really has not changed natural more natural you see but
01:05:27
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)I said earlier like it really does depend on the country and it does depend on where you're living because it's a lot different in America than it is in Israel I lived in Israel for over four years and the beauty standards there
01:05:38
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)wildly completely different than yeah when I got back here when I got back here I went and I wanted a nose job right away as soon as I got back I went
01:05:49
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)and got Botox I went and got lip filler I didn't feel beautiful here by beauty standards at all but when I lived in Israel I was very confident and I felt great because there they don't care
01:06:00
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)about those beauty standards right they don't care about it no they've done studies on this like with men all over the world I mean I I lived there first I mean I've lived okay I've lived in Germany I've lived all
01:06:13
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)over the world too so we could go back and forth in the I lived game but in general men tend to find the same things attractive I don't believe that's true at all but okay well but what do you think might find attractive and and fit
01:06:25
Gwenfeminine friendly in general symmetrical face I mean I think you kind of know it when you see it if we're being honest so supposedly like um you know biologically like we're the men are attracted by it's like a woman that
01:06:38
Zoe Sinlooks like she's capable of being a child so like yeah to me that's the only way that we can say what we know life is all different between what men like yeah it's not sometimes one thing like
01:06:49
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)oh if you have a small nose everybody in general aren't that picky and also I don't like supermodels some men like the BBL big booty Latinas like everyone has a different type so you can't just put
01:07:00
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)men into like a certain category I mean men really aren't that picky they swipe right on dating apps like 50 of the time like men just really are they're not picky on who they [ __ ] with their picky on who they want yeah
01:07:12
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)and another thing be the complete you can be the complete and total package and get delivered to the wrong house
01:07:23
Elleso then you pick the wrong house no I'm saying no I'm saying you can walk into a room and be attend to somebody in
01:07:33
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)that room but go up to the wrong guy okay let's let's do it let's do a different example is lizzo going to be a 10 anywhere no because she goes to Japan that's exactly what I'm that's exactly
01:07:47
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)what I'm saying no no but she's not going to be a 10 anywhere I mean we could argue that maybe like you know well yeah she's gonna be a 10 somewhere like I said yeah
01:07:58
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)just like every woman they have they could be the exact perfect package for the perfect person right but that's exactly what I'm trying to say lizzo if you want to use her as an example she's a beautiful person on earth right right
01:08:11
JamieI think what she's getting out of every single person on Earth I mean I have common sense where you get in I think that's where you get it wrong
01:08:21
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)we have to generalize in order to have conversations sometimes we no we have to otherwise if we're gonna have a conversation about every single exception but we want to be here all day
01:08:34
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)okay I have a question I have a question if I said you guys look like lizzo would you take it as a compliment
01:08:55
Zoe SinI think what Pearl was trying to get at is that it's okay to be normal it's okay not to be a 10 out of 10 in society's standards everybody is told nowadays that they're special and that yours and yours and no let's be for real we have to be honest with ourselves we go out
01:09:08
Zoe Sininto the world I'm gonna go out somewhere somebody doesn't like black girls guess what I'm gonna have to do except that people don't like black girls I'm gonna go out there and change the world's opinion no that doesn't make that doesn't change how you feel about yourself yeah but I mean what I feel about myself because I'm going off the
01:09:20
Gwensociety standard question I feel that way but she's saying she goes acid rate our looks not ourselves there's a big difference come on even if we're gonna go
01:09:39
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)no I mean it is when you're saying you're a 10. if you're including persons
01:09:48
Hannah Mariamaeven if we were going personality that's what I said that's true yeah but it's absolutely I think that we're having a little bit of confusion about objectively there is an objective Beauty standard you can look at a woman and there are different across races across
01:10:01
Hannah Mariamaethnicities across all different types of things there are women who are objectively beautiful when they walk in a room you know that's a 10. you know it you know it when you see it but there is relative Beauty like like
01:10:13
Hannah Mariamait depends on where you are and you may have somebody who for that for that culture for that area that's a 10 and it looks different than the objective 10 that all most people if you have a room full of a thousand people from all over
01:10:24
Hannah Mariamathe world they know when somebody walks in that's a 10 objectively because you can see it's the facial symmetry it's just the math and our brain comprehend it as Beauty 100 and if you bring somebody with blue eyes somewhere where there's predominantly not blue eyes
01:10:37
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)they're immediately going to get like a double look or be held to like oh wow that's beautiful because it's not seen as often or whatever the case may be I'm not just I'm just saying blue eyes because I that's what I have so I'm not
01:10:49
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)gonna critique somebody else's look but yeah what I don't understand is who who is the shot caller that said oh this is the perfect structured face this is what beauty is
01:11:05
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)it's just math it is and you know another thing is ridiculous to me is that okay this is what a 30 year old should look like this is what you should look like when you're 20. this is what yeah
01:11:16
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)how tall are you five seven okay would you date a guy that's five foot remember
01:11:29
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)and he was probably putting in double time [Laughter] yeah no it look where I come from look you you just blessed and at my age you
01:11:40
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)just blessed to give somebody that you feel me wants to show you some love honey and show you a good time honey so you got to go along with it baby if it's if it's yo you feel me your type then it's your type height shouldn't matter
01:11:53
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)you know what I mean yeah I don't I think that's shallow to be honest to put somebody down just based off their women women do though if you look at the filters on dating apps like the most common filter is six foot and up and most women have that filter on if they
01:12:06
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)can I have a question I feel like most men like shorter women as well they do yeah five two is like this they want a little tiny one yeah they're mad short guys
01:12:20
Hannah Mariamano problems so for those of you who are working in the adult industry I'm curious what you think your life will look like about 10 to 15 years in the future like what do
01:12:33
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)you picture where do you picture your careers going I mean I've definitely been thinking about that a lot since I got pregnant and also before as well um that's also why I kind of stepped out of
01:12:46
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)the corn industry itself because I was realizing that you know at least with only fans yes they can screenshot yes they can screen record everything and it can be put out on Reddit or whatever
01:12:57
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)but that I'm on the Hub anyone can look me up and now it kind of sucks like looking back on it I don't regret my decisions because they got me to where I am today and the person that
01:13:10
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)I am today and I will always be thankful for that um but I do wish I went ahead and did my research before and did things a lot differently than I did
01:13:21
Hannah Mariamaum but I wonder did you know before you started so this is something so I'm a career coach and I help people find jobs without buying college degree so I help people get into Tech and different Industries Blue Collar doesn't really
01:13:33
Hannah Mariamamatter whatever people want to do I'll help them figure out how to do it and so I'm curious about if if it's common knowledge that if you do that kind of work later on down the line it may show up and an employer may choose not to
01:13:45
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)hire you and they're legally allowed to do so and how have you like planned for that on down the line I went in I went ahead Kiana still is my real name but I changed the spelling of it I use a fake
01:13:55
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)lesson legally you changed it no oh okay okay so if I walk into a job they you can't correlate Kiana kumani with my real name um what if they start like making
01:14:06
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)technology to like find your face I mean if they already have them they already have but honestly after the work that I've done I don't see myself going back to nine to five um I do want to go to college and I do
01:14:19
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)want to get my Nursing degree because I do want to go and be a traveling nurse and help out in different countries and I don't think it really matters when you're going to be a nurse if you've done corn I don't know you see
01:14:30
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)that as an issue because I'm I want to help a lot of employers a lot of employers do and it will impact your prospects and if that if that is the case then that is the case but right now I'm trying to stack my money as much as
01:14:42
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)possible and again invest in an Airbnb property yeah yeah and do as much as possible I don't want to waste my money on stupid stuff yeah I think it's dumb
01:14:53
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)that a lot of women in the industry get into the industry and they are so they have never had that much money before so they go and buy designer purses designer shoes yeah they waste all their money they
01:15:06
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)spend it and they don't learn how to do their tax forms they don't learn how they don't learn how to write off things that they're paying for on a daily basis to keep up with their own their own like look like when you're when you're an of model I can write off these nails every
01:15:19
Elletime I get them done everything is your own taxes or do you have CPAs I do my own I've I've because I did my business to degree I actually like took courses and [ __ ] like that and I actually really really enjoy doing
01:15:31
Ellethat I want to help more people do that when it comes to of um but no I definitely have a plan for after I'm done with the industry that I'm in right now did you start an only
01:15:41
Hannah Mariamafans because you couldn't get a job with your degree uh no not at all
01:15:49
Michaela[Music] um research before what do you mean I would advise against it I would just definitely do as much research as possible because
01:16:00
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)when I turned 18 and I moved back to America I went and I got I was working at Chipotle before that was my job before I got into the sex work industry I was working at Chipotle Cracker Barrel and Bob Evans yeah
01:16:13
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)I was working at Chipotle I was going to go back to school field thing and then I went and started working at a strip club and that's how I got into the sex worker
01:16:22
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)industry and I was terrified I had no guidance um and I had to pretty much learn how to maneuver my way on my own
01:16:34
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)um I don't wish my life to be any differently than it is today but I would advise younger women to definitely do their research before they decide to show their body and be as you know
01:16:47
Michaelawilling with their body and to do what they do a positive environment for these like oh is it
01:16:56
Michaelayeah okay but as I was saying like because you mentioned earlier about this industry kind of being toxic do you even think that this is a environment should be going in in the first place Mike Davis
01:17:10
TTS/Miscyou're dead wrong about men's type my type is the bbbws big beautiful black women more cushion for the pushing if she got black we got mesh
01:17:22
TTS/MiscI'm going home [Laughter]
01:17:44
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)take a little shot slide in the DS what's your Instagram give your Instagram at the first Barbie
01:17:53
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)that's t-h-e number one St b-a-r-b-i-e baby leave the baby off that was just me it you said you were single oh yes honey
01:18:05
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)you got to talk are you looking for a man also a woman yes I am single as a [ __ ] Pringle being single for yeah a minute I would say since 2020 let me stop lying
01:18:16
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)you want to be single you know to be honest right now I'm kind of young this self Journey trying to get my [ __ ] together you understand what I'm saying because people so judgmental are you when you're in your 30s you know what I mean you
01:18:29
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)should have your [ __ ] a house on the hill and you know Calabasas by now and you know driving a sports car and all this or be married with kids and it's like their life ain't for every woman you know what I mean do you not want
01:18:41
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)children I want a husband to be honest more than I want children I want that partnership that companionship more than kids do you want the kids you want to be in a partnership or would you rather it be more like a husband and wife I I want
01:18:54
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)the husband title or the wife and husband no not the title I meant like the role when I hear partnership I think more
01:19:02
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)like 50 50 we have an equal say and when I when I hear a husband and wife
01:19:16
Hannah Mariamain that department so that's why I probably say partnership I ain't even you know that wasn't even conscious that just came out in the U.S though that the way that marriage is structured is a Business Partnership I think the the way
01:19:27
Brian Atlasthat the marriage is on the inside is very different from the legal structure of that all right let me just give everybody an update here so um in addition to all the audio issues we were having we're still
01:19:39
Brian Atlaslive for you guys here on the panel uh we can't see anything on any of the monitors so our monitor the monitors there so we can't it's very difficult to like control
01:19:51
Brian Atlaswhat's that can they see us yeah they can still see us so the stream is still live but like okay all we have three monitors in the studio one for people at the panel and then we have two monitors over there they're
01:20:03
Brian Atlasboth blacked out totally devil is busy today I think some going on because Instagram was down remember I hit you up
01:20:23
Brian Atlasyeah so first off I just want to apologize to all the viewers um we're having egregiously bad technical issues we've never um we've never encountered this uh ever
01:20:35
Brian Atlasbefore so we're working on it I'm behind there we're unplugging re-plugging things we could do a total shutdown of the computer which might fix it but if we do that the stream dies so I'm still trying to figure it out
01:20:49
Brian Atlasum thank you guys for keeping the conversation going while I'm dealing with that um you got a lot of women on the panel I don't think we're gonna have a problem keeping the conversation without you um so yeah guys I'm going to continue
01:21:01
Brian Atlastrying to get the monitors to work but he literally like the guy who's running the Stream you can't see anything the screen's totally black it's bugging out so I'm going to keep working on it thank you
01:21:14
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)guys for your patience I'm it's unfortunate that this is uh such a scuff stream but could we like what if you put a phone here so you can see the stream and then swap it like here I can do it here but
01:21:26
Brian Atlasit's and then then I'm like then I'm just then I'm the producer I'm not going to be engaged in the conversation but I'm gonna try to fix it if not I might do that that's a good idea Pearl yeah
01:21:37
Hannah Mariamaokay continue on I'll uh what we were talking about Partnerships versus marriage
01:21:47
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)like I said I'm very tired of working so at this point [ __ ] if I could find a man that would just say baby you ain't got to work and he want to go out and [ __ ] who he want to [ __ ] on the side and do what he want to do [ __ ] I'd be willing to just sit back and say all right you
01:22:01
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)know as long as you're giving me the black car and I could you know get my hair done nails done everything did and buy what I need to buy and better myself and you know just focus on you know the home life then [ __ ] so I might go for
01:22:13
Kirstenthat and sit back and shut the [ __ ] up what's the point of having a husband and being a committed relationship though if you're just gonna let him go out and [ __ ] whoever he wants you know what I'm I'm taking it back to like the olden
01:22:25
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)days my grandmother's Dave and things where they had no choice but to sit down and shut the [ __ ] up and let your man do what he do because you cannot go out and work you have to just sit at home you know we did all this fight for equal rights and now to the point where when I
01:22:37
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)go on dates guys don't want to date me if they feel like you don't have a good enough job and that's [ __ ] disrespectful it's like damn you know what I mean like maybe I'm still working on myself getting my [ __ ] to that level but guys nowadays especially where I'm
01:22:49
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)from in L.A they don't want to [ __ ] with you if you ain't got your [ __ ] like together like have a really good job and especially depending on your age they're not dealing with you they're not they don't want to be with you if you're the only fans they don't want to be with you
01:23:01
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)if you work in retail they they want a specific woman and so you know we kind of [ __ ] ourselves a little bit with all this equal right [ __ ] yeah I do like being able to make my own bread and do what I want to do and have a say so but
01:23:13
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)at the same time it's like damn we kind of set ourselves back because now guys don't even want to open the dose of your ass you know what I mean so it's it's a lot with that going back and forth it's like I'm on one side of it but then the
01:23:23
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)other side it's tough because it's like in general most women are not traditional women and we want traditional outcomes I feel like it's just a level of respect for the other person what do you mean like it doesn't
01:23:36
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)matter what I do for work or it doesn't matter what the other person does for work if you have a mutual respect for each other like I would want my man to open a car door for me but like vice versa like I would take my man out to a nice meal
01:23:49
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)once in a while like I feel like it's just an equal amount of respect and like I would like my man to get me flowers once in a while just like he would probably like [ __ ] I don't know like a massage
01:24:02
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)or like cooked food when he gets home or whatever just respect it's just yeah but I was talking about like the traditional outcome like being a housewife so only
01:24:12
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)like roughly 20 of women get to do that right so it's competitive like it's and the guys that want a housewife like I mean you have to compete for them and typically they don't pick girls with only fans corn stars like that's just
01:24:24
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)like okay I don't want to be a typical house well I was only I don't I don't know what you want I was talking about right because I said there's moments in my life where I'm just I'm like [ __ ] it I'll do that because dealing with being
01:24:36
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)a woman and dealing a black woman at that and dealing with this Workforce like I said I'm from L.A so it is hell that I deal with on a day-to-day basis and I'm sick of it yeah but it's like at 33 like you just can't be a traditional
01:24:47
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)woman anymore I don't think you would claim to be right but and it's like a lot of times like we want these traditional outcomes but it's like do we qualify you know right right that's very true but it's I mean it's like damn if
01:24:59
Zoe Sinyou do damned if you don't at some point but with that attitude I mean like at that point I mean listening to everything you're saying have you been realistic with the men that you're going for like you're saying like the men that you're going on dates with like your job isn't good enough this isn't good enough
01:25:11
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)have you ever like taken time to stop and be like damn maybe it is me and not these men you know what I mean like it's and I have and I tell people that I definitely have because I'm a Virgo I'm an overthinker and so I analyze every [ __ ] thing you know what I mean and
01:25:23
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)so I do be like and that's why I just told her when she asked are you like really looking I'm like you know what nobody you need to sit your ass down and get yourself together right now well maybe that's being real about it you know what I mean maybe this is not the
01:25:34
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)time you know what I mean for you to be trying to get it if you don't fully have your [ __ ] together if that's what guys are going for now if you make it to 35 and you're not married you only have like a 15 I think percent chance 20
01:25:47
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)chance right and that's what we're scared I'm sorry I'm sorry the dating pool in La is not the best
01:25:58
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)some of the worst men I've ever experienced in my entire life speaker they are they are they act like they want something serious and they want a real relationship and a real true loving partner and when they get that they go and turn around and they're like oh I
01:26:12
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)have this already and then they go and turn around and cheat right I think no it's because women go for a small percentage of men at the end of the day all I care about
01:26:24
Kirstenis making sure that I'm loved I'd rather have somebody who will commit to me and tell me that they love me and actually show me that they love me over someone who's Chris [ __ ] Brown I'd Rather Be Loved than have somebody with status any
01:26:34
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)[ __ ] day yeah I don't even you'll be looking in those days
01:26:40
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)that's great for you right and I'm not I'm not talking about you guys individually but there's no shortage of women trying to sleep with Chris Brown trying to sleep with Drake trying to
01:26:51
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)sleep with these entertainers actors High staff that women will know for a fact will not be faithful to them they know that's living in the city it honestly is the further away you get from a metropolitan
01:27:04
Hannah Mariamaarea the better your odds are going to be because it's the people in cities there's so many people here your pool is so deep you can just look at something swipe left swipe right you can toss them aside you can cheat on it's also really easy to disguise what you're doing if
01:27:17
Zoe Sinthere's so many people around to be perfectly honest because I feel like I used to feel the same way I used to be like oh my God I hate digging away because I'm from Alabama like bomb [ __ ] nowhere and I hated dating but like then I came to L.A and I was like I hate dating in L.A and I was like well where
01:27:29
Zoe SinI had to sit down and shut the [ __ ] up and be like well where am I actually looking at dating and my guy now who's like a blue-collar job he's yeah they're great we'll teach you but a lot a lot of people don't want to admit that
01:27:42
Zoe Sinthose guys sometimes are the best people and the best prospects to date we want the flashy stuff as much as we say we don't guess the hell we do yeah if you don't have this if you don't have this kind of money if you don't [ __ ] drive a Bugatti you're not worth my time so a
01:27:55
Hannah Mariamalot of these guys a lot of these normal guys that we complain aren't around they're around we just don't give a [ __ ] about them areas if you move outside of a major metropolitan area and you live outside of like a medium-sized City like 45
01:28:08
Hannah Mariamaminutes outside of it and you participate in life in that town that and you work somewhere where you do not work around the majority of the same gender that's the biggest problem I get a lot of people that are like nurses teachers social workers they always talk about how they can't find anybody they
01:28:21
Hannah Mariamacan't find anybody because they work with all women all women yeah I love those types of jobs those jobs women go into those jobs and then we can't wait to get out of them
01:28:33
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)because you get into them and they suck well and the other issues women find 80 percent of men that's unattractive not okay not uh it's you find 80 of men you meet ugly but I'm dating ugly ones
01:28:47
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)typically tip no typically when women
01:28:54
Hannah Mariamawork around men if you're looking for a partner if you're looking for a spouse you need to work around men because you have to know the men in order to actually know if they're attractive to you it yes I agree with what you're
01:29:04
Hannah Mariamasaying but the thing is women will care less about how attractive a man is if they are in close proximity to that man and they like him yes that is how people are right I know but I'm not talking
01:29:15
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)about like what's ideal I'm talking about what is no and then yeah no but no now the number one way is dating apps it's not work anymore I think dating apps personally are the dumbest thing
01:29:27
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)created because personally for me like I go on personality at the end of the day like guess the first thing you see when you meet somebody is their looks but like I've dated men that I haven't found
01:29:39
Hannah Mariamaconventionally attractive and they have been the sweetest human beings to me ever was it because you knew them from something other than meeting them and like meeting them in a bar and being
01:29:49
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)attracted to them well actually so before I also bartended on the side when I was doing I was born 1080 yeah when I was doing only fans it was in Austin he was a DJ uh we work together yes so he
01:30:02
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)was he was more well we didn't work at the same bars but it was like the industry Austin's a very very small nightlife industry yeah so the person that I dated he was not conventionally attractive at all overweight
01:30:14
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)just not my type that I would see at all but his personality completely wow how long were you with him we were together for I mean it was he died while we were talking but
01:30:27
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)um it was a very amazing we were friends before and then I just kind of switched into something more but I think it was it was like I knew him for a very long time so I wouldn't say there was really
01:30:38
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)a time of us like talking but I think that's why I think dating apps are like the dumbest thing I agree with you I mean if we if we meet someone on a dating app like we only swipe right five percent of the time so if you're meeting with someone online like typically he's
01:30:52
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)got a lot of women because again he's getting all of the legs I wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for the day now that's how I met Brian
01:31:03
Hannah Mariamaa lot of is something I can get really missed too a lot of us here are content creators and if some if a guy is doing well on a dating app it's really because he can write sales copy and that's a problem because it means that men who
01:31:15
Hannah Mariamacan write sales copy and know how to take photos that look a certain way are the ones that get chosen over and over and those are the wrong ones I just want to say that when I'm on a dating app I
01:31:25
Elledo read through what they put on that on on the questions and stuff like that because you can be the finest [ __ ] in the room and if I can't carry a conversation with you and you're
01:31:36
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)not making me laugh or Smiles the guys you're gonna match with are the ones that know what to say yeah they're optimized they're literally I don't know because I've seen a lot of really cute [ __ ] on there
01:31:48
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)saying you don't know what to saying something but again but again you're only you're only swiping right five percent of the time five percent I need to remember on a dating app to women of the product right women of the product the men are the
01:32:00
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)customers on a date yeah women are the product it's it's and I mean they're selling us on some of them sorry to interrupt not on all of them yeah like Bumble and hit yeah some of them the rest of them yeah yeah it's your product I don't think most people really use
01:32:13
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)Tinder as much anymore I think it's at least in La it's mainly Bumble and hinge and then the uh the celebrity one I guess that's because most people in La be crazy as hell and got banned off
01:32:23
Byronique / Kirsten (mixed)Tinder already La dating really is like the guys are scared to get used for their money and the women are scared to get used for they [ __ ] that's really what it is so it's just like we can't win Los Angeles
01:32:36
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)is high school and to be honest with the Los Angeles dating to it from from being here for like less than a year I've already noticed that the what La is known for is
01:32:49
Ellethey want that instant gratification when it comes to sex money clubs drugs everything instant gratification then want to work for for it for very long or have it for very long if they've already obtained it and that's what I've noticed here I don't agree with that because a
01:33:03
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)lot of these people that are in this area they've worked extremely hard to get to where they're at no not like business-wise because I've seen people put their all into like music or whatever their niches but I'm saying
01:33:15
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)like when it comes to dating I've noticed that people are very quick to like get it and then hey can you skit into the table please you're too far back go ahead yeah no that was pretty much
01:33:27
Brian Atlasum so guys we uh technical issues the monitors are busted so I'm gonna have to be controlling a lot of stuff on here so I'm gonna read some super chats we have uh Bean cheeks here with the hundred
01:33:38
Brian Atlasthank you George Miller is the blank that took Rolo to ma as pseudonym oh are you talking [ __ ] about roller I don't know if I can show these man uh or BS vasectomy ordeal that's making red
01:33:51
Brian Atlaspill content go bogus you're welcome on educating you okay Darth perditions thank you for the hundred back again after calling Nala out for her cheating King huge oh hold on let me trigger that
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Brian AtlasI can't see any of these by the way guys so I'm just huge fan of Gwen and Zoe Zoe based as [ __ ] uh and impressed by your statements Pearl have loved many of your shows just
01:34:12
Brian Atlashate some of the feminists oh okay thank you Darth perditious we have here Odin thank you for the 100 it is said people have looks or personality girls
01:34:24
Brian Atlasthat rated themselves a 10 does this mean you have no personality also why does height add to a guy's attractiveness score curious as a 6-5 guy okay why does height
01:34:36
Brian Atlaswell first off does uh height matter I don't think so
01:34:44
Jamiethey've been all over the board like height wise but I think sometimes it's nice to feel small nice to feel small okay I think personally height does matter for me because I'm looking for
01:34:55
Brian Atlassomebody to be the father of my kids and my dad is 5'5 and I need somebody to balance out my genes you know okay uh hold on plan life thanks for the
01:35:07
Brian Atlasgifted by the way guys it's like I said major technical issues so all the super chats is going to be scuffed TTS is gonna be TTS is working but it's scuffed-ish um okay so height um
01:35:19
Jamiedo you have a height minimum well I'm only five feet tall so I say you got to be at least taller than my dad how tall is your five five oh okay you have to balance out his jeans if we have
01:35:31
Brian Atlassons they gotta they have to be at least taller than five eyes yeah I don't want to do that to them all right okay we have uh wait hold on
01:35:43
Zoe Sinwhy does height add to a guy's attractiveness score does anyone I think honestly for me I'm five nine when a guy is Too Tall like because all my exes have been around
01:35:53
Zoe Sinlike five nine five eight I had two x's one was six two one was six one any guy over six one for me to start they just start to look funny so I can't I think
01:36:04
Brian Atlasthat's like biological because we like we're looking for protectors yeah okay all right Odin thank you man appreciate it we have uh doc van
01:36:16
Brian AtlasNautilus thank you the golden ratio is the objective standard of beauty and preserved not only across cultures but also nature one one to 1.6 look up the
01:36:27
Brian Atlasmarquart mask and see how your face conforms to the golden ratio well we could pull it up if our monitors weren't scuffed um doc thank you man appreciate it uh Dapper Dave thank you man uh Pearl
01:36:40
Brian Atlasgave a poor example of red pilled from The Matrix it means you see the world now and see oh [ __ ] I didn't pull it up sorry guys you see how modern Western
01:36:50
Brian Atlaswait what it means you see the world now and see how modern Western women operate delusional on what men really want yes
01:36:59
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)body count does matter okay that's what you said you can't like would you say the definition of red pill you just can't win like I feel like
01:37:09
Brian Atlasthat's what you said all right we have uh Bob dunnaway here thank you man uh long time voyeur first time donator hey thank you man welcome for joining I apologize that your first uh chat's on
01:37:21
Brian Atlasan absolute scuff stream because you brought pearly things all you women are created thoughtfully by loving God keep the body count down but don't live in guilt uh live in conviction hey Bob
01:37:31
Brian Atlasthank you man appreciate it all right and then we have a couple soup chats also guys the soup chats are going to be a little bit scuffed if I missed a couple of the displays
01:37:43
Brian Atlasum okay we have filthy with the 100 thank you man do the women in the adult film industry of want to have children if so are you worried
01:37:53
Brian Atlasabout the effects or she is pregnant um so are you worried about the effects or actions we'll have on them in the future specifically for boys remember
01:38:03
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)the internet is forever and what we do in life echoes in eternity your response to Filthy I mean I didn't really think about it before I got
01:38:16
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)pregnant um but after I did I definitely again I don't regret anything I've done in my life because it has gotten me to where I am today but
01:38:27
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)I wish I could have went about things differently I wish I didn't fully get into being able for people to search me up on the Hub and stuff
01:38:38
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)um I'm fine with the only fans aspect of it but yeah I mean it is not going to be the easiest when I have if I do have a
01:38:48
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)son and they go to school and he gets older and his friends are like hey you know your mom's on the Hub I just looked her up so that's also why like I'm glad
01:38:58
Kirstenthat I took a step back when I did from being on PornHub okay anybody else who does of won't answer that anybody Kirsten I mean I think it'll definitely affect children
01:39:10
Kirstenlike I said before I've had one of my old management she was huge on PornHub and her kids are severely bullied because of it it definitely will I know when I get to that point when I do eventually want to have kids I'm going to do my best to wipe myself from the
01:39:23
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)internet but you know what I made the decisions that I made and I'm okay with that I think it's just also having a conversation with your kids and sitting them down and letting them know beforehand because I would rather sit my kids down
01:39:35
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)before it gets to a certain age where people start going on these websites and letting them know so they're aware of it and they can kind of get a thicker skin before they walk into something that they're not aware of yeah I kind of control the narrative a little bit
01:39:46
Elleexactly how about have an open and safe space to be able to communicate open line of communication for your child is super important my my mom was a stripper and it was in a small town very local
01:39:58
Ellelike people knew that she did that and my mom was also a very young mom so um I always joked that like I worked I had previous experience at a
01:40:09
Ellestrip club because I was in the in my mom's womb while she was the stripper or whatever so I um I don't know I just feel as if it's like as long as you have that open line of
01:40:21
Ellecommunication I'm not saying that that makes it any easier on the child's experience because obviously the other kids aren't having that same conversation with their parents but as long as you know
01:40:32
Elleyou're open and they're not finding out through exactly yeah it doesn't fit the other kids yeah yeah and I mean it's it's something that like we're gonna have to deal with when it gets to that
01:40:44
Hannah Mariamapoint whether it's eight months from now or or or 10 years down the line you know are you gonna teach your daughters about the industry and if so what will you
01:40:56
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)teach them about it oh absolutely 100 I mean I'm not just gonna be like hey here's the porn world and you know you should definitely do it here's me
01:41:05
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)do you want do you want that for them I am not gonna judge my children at all on what they decide to do because I don't have the support of my parents at
01:41:18
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)all and I don't talk to them and I always said growing up that I would be completely opposite of what my parents have done for me um so I will always have my kids back I will give them guidance if they do
01:41:31
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)decide to sit me down one day and say that they do want to get into the industry I would give them my experience and what I've went through and you know I didn't have that guidance my mom did work for
01:41:42
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)um kind of like Playboy it was a different magazine Hustler perfect 10. yeah it was like an old magazine in the 2000s and uh I like grew up in that house pretty much and it was exactly
01:41:53
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)like the Playboy House it was a way yeah so it was perfect to you I was young so uh it was like the perfect 10 house so there was like a bunch of models walking around everywhere they lived at
01:42:04
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)the house some of them uh I remember Easters they would have like wrestling matches outside they were like naked wrestling and stuff and like I grew up around the sex worker industry
01:42:17
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)um so again I am going to sit my daughter down and if she decides that that's what she wants to do I will always be supportive and I will guide her as much as I can to make the wrong right
01:42:28
Hannah Mariamadecisions though that's what I'm asking I I of course you would you know you would you would love your child oh do you want that for them that's what that's what I mean I don't think it's the
01:42:40
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)most ideal job no but again if that is what they want to do I will 100 support them and I will 100 have their back but again I will give them the experience that I went through and the the good things and the bad things and I think I
01:42:53
Ellethink that every person I think that every person can agree that they want to do more for their child than their parent did for them and they also want more for their child than they had for themselves right and I think it comes
01:43:05
Gwendown to the kind of life that your child wants you know I mean some porn stars have been offered experiences that they wouldn't otherwise have had right and and it's just a matter and even with you know me and my journey as the only fans
01:43:16
Gwenmodel like to be honest I I haven't through my experience as a model uh because you know and I haven't been subject to like some of the toxic aspects of the industry you know I've been in charge it's been really a
01:43:27
Gwenpositive experience for me and a really empowering one and it's offered me I mean just through social media it's so many like access to experiences that I I'm really grateful for incredible freedoms and I absolutely love my life
01:43:39
Gwenthat I built and you opportunities that I have and entrepreneurially I feel like a lot of potential would it be worth it if you never got married well I mean I've never really been one
01:43:50
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)of those girls who's like okay so you don't care I mean yeah right I mean like what do you guys have to look like at 65 a lot of friendship a lot of self-expression authentic
01:44:01
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)self-expression um because what like I mean do what you want but like my thing is a lot of times people make these decisions and then whine about the consequences later well yeah absolutely I mean I hear that I think it really just depends on how you
01:44:14
Gwengo into anything and like even just to take it back to like I mean like you know anything even if you take it back to the original conversation about um you know even escorting I'm like I think when it comes to any part of like
01:44:25
Gwenyou know sexual objectification it's really like how your your perspective is the way that you go into and experience that situation tell determines whether or not you feel power from it or you
01:44:36
Gwengive power through it and you lose power and whether it becomes like traumatic or empowering like they're two different things so um you know so it's just a really matter of personal preference an opinion my life I've never wanted a normal typical
01:44:48
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)[ __ ] life and I haven't had one and do I want what most people want at 65 probably not I also feel like I would rather if I was saying where I would be at 60 I would
01:45:00
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)rather be by myself at 60 or 65 and genuinely happy with myself and where I have come in my life than being a toxic relationship in a why are those the only two options I'm the only fans and I'm in a happy
01:45:12
Kirstenrelationship obviously we have our ups and downs but like overall I have a very happy relationship good for you you know but I feel like you're saying over here that you can't have a happy relationship you're never going to get married
01:45:25
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)and he's very supportive no I think it's less likely and it's I mean you've been right I mean you guys are young though you don't know what life's gonna look like at 35 40 like and I've talked to older women that have done only fans and done corn like corn work and a lot of
01:45:39
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)times like a guy will date you in his 20s and then like dump you when he wants to find his wife I know a lot of people that are kind of early to say though what the future looks like especially for especially for I mean
01:45:51
Elleevery generation specifically it's very I'm not saying that it's super right but it is Norm a lot more normalized than a 30 year old generation too though like
01:46:03
Gwenjust acknowledge the fact too that only fans is a premium content platform there are comedians with only fans there's such a wide variety
01:46:16
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)nobody is going to get married that's not what I'm saying especially when you have a really attract like you guys are all very pretty so you know you know thank you but but sometimes like pretty women have different outcomes than the
01:46:29
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)average chick and so the average chick is going to sign up yeah and that's what I'm saying like I don't know you guys personally totally true but there are a lot of girls that are going to do only fans and it's not gonna like they're it's not gonna end well for them and
01:46:41
Gwenit's easy to say this now oh I'm in a happy relationship you don't know what your life's gonna be like in 10 15. so like you know what somebody does for a period of time doesn't Define what they are it does though because like if if I'm
01:46:53
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)gonna data guy and he said I went to prison for five years like I'm out and he said if he said I got three women pregnant but don't worry I've changed I'm like you know what that's not for me I'm good you said you'd be a nurse if
01:47:06
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)you weren't doing what you're doing now what would the rest of you do if you weren't doing your your current job comparing I'm sorry but comparing prison and what was the other thing you said only found no presented somebody getting
01:47:18
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)to you yeah comparing prison and only and only fans and getting three women pregnant like those are two you know it's funny you know it's funny I actually think that like the comparison isn't fair because when men go to prison
01:47:30
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)they actually have more women that are interested in them and as far as the opposite where only fans is the opposite I don't have less men interested in long-term I don't know I'm sorry I just feel like that's not a good comparison okay that's
01:47:43
Brian Atlascool hey we're gonna redirect the conversation here okay um for those of you just tuning in or just want to be caught up we're having major technical issues um monitors are busted audios was
01:47:54
Brian Atlaspreviously scuffed um so we're like I'm struggling to manage the stream right now on my end um okay let's move on uh plan life thing for all the gifted Subs man appreciate it
01:48:06
Brian Atlasum TD think for the 50. we have Mike Davis uh it's not going to show but whatever um sorry guys we we cannot display the super chats anymore I'll read them but yeah it's just not going to display yo Mike Davis thank you for the 100 man you're a steel worker you got your
01:48:19
Brian Atlaspriorities all messed up who gives a [ __ ] what women want and go secure the bag for your king Mike Davis got generational wealth because doesn't concern himself with these twisted
01:48:29
Brian Atlasminded women my motto is if it makes money it makes sense that's from Mike Davis thank you man appreciate it um Mr Cappadocia thank you man ladies are they real or are they enhanced
01:48:42
Brian Atlasbetting pool says four of you are artificially blessed was it worth it was it was it an Investments That paid off did your interactions with men change well I think uh we should wait until someone comes back from the bathroom to
01:48:54
Elleaddress that one but um I'll come back to that Captain thank you man okay I'm kind of I'm going to introduce it what's up I said I'm interested to know too oh do you no I was just interested
01:49:07
Brian AtlasI think no I think there's a couple here at the table all right we have bead in cheeks here thank you man uh I'll only apologize to you Brian not for what I said but I have a soft question I've not asked in a while to the panel to The Oaf girls
01:49:19
Brian AtlasI really want to move off of this of [ __ ] okay do your fathers know about your content or have they disowned you my dad doesn't speak to me anymore so because he started doing he found
01:49:30
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)content he found out he knew he was like still kind of speaking to me to me when I did uh when I was working at the club but uh I think my cousin found me or
01:49:42
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)something on the Hub and he found out and he does not speak to me so disowned yeah my mother disowned also or both both to sound about double disowned unfortunate okay
01:49:56
Gwenum so did your father does your father know about your content and has he disowned you oh you're ridiculous yes he doesn't know
01:50:06
Jamiehe has not disowned okay what about you uh I don't seriously do only
01:50:14
Jamieincluding the stripping yeah no seriously like my mom will like ask me to send her a video she like takes it too far sometimes hurray okay my parents do not know but I grew up in
01:50:27
Kirstena very conservative Christian household so that is a conversation that I prepared myself for the day they do find out I mean you're on the podcast it's all good I don't know they still don't know it's been two and a half
01:50:38
Kirstenyears and there's some found out but you know one day they will and we'll what do you think is the uh they're going to disown or you think I don't think they would fully disown me um but I would
01:50:49
Kirstendefinitely get some Stern conversations Stern conversation okay you do a f also yeah um so father mother do they know yeah
01:51:01
Elleboth my parents know and um my mom like I said was a stripper um she doesn't particularly like that I do it but she also will always support me
01:51:13
Elleand always make sure that I still feel loved and cherished and wants the best for me regardless um and my dad he um obviously wasn't really around too much growing up so I just kind of like
01:51:25
Elleobviously if I had a stronger male figure on my life I probably wouldn't have wouldn't have even gone there but um yeah no uh he's also supportive since being a little bit closer now that I've
01:51:36
Zoe Singrown up more okay uh yeah um my mother found out I cut her a little closer to Mike my mom found out and I cut her off because she's just this very very conservative Christian
01:51:47
Zoe Sinwith a bunch of opinions and she does nothing with her life and my dad was an ex-crackhead so no I don't talk to either one of my parents or any of my family because they all just or lazy so yeah Archduke Franz Ferdinand
01:52:02
Brian Atlasoh you don't do off okay okay thanks for the 100 that's a good name congrats um once you post something on the Internet it's there forever you cannot wipe yourself from the internet
01:52:14
Brian Atlasto do that is like trying to drain the ocean okay well people are really focused on the of stuff tonight all right Darth perditious thank you man that statistic is deceptive yes single
01:52:25
Brian Atlaswomen from 18 to 35 are the happiest demo demographic but 35 Plus single women are the unhappiest demo uh in the US have to look at the whole picture not
01:52:36
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)just the present Pleasant stat thank you man oh a b check thanks for the 20 gift to go ahead and they're on more
01:52:47
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)antidepressants well I'm already on antidepressants so what makes a difference she's already on maybe you wouldn't be if you [Music]
01:53:00
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)if you're hot
01:53:04
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)I think if she wasn't making like 70 plus k a month she'd definitely be more depressed than she is right now all right we have uh we'll I'll bring this one back up Cappadocia he was asking
01:53:16
Brian Atlasum ladies are they real or are they enhanced betting pool says four of you are artificially blessed was it worth it was it an investment that paid off did your interactions with men change I mean
01:53:28
Brian Atlasyou noticed that you you know you know all right fake fake titties that's a fake titty comment um
01:53:38
Zoe Sinyeah I'll go um let's see what was the question again are they worth it okay mine are fake yeah whatever okay first off show of hands who's got fake titties
01:53:51
Brian Atlasyou bet you're too you're like gonna get blocked so boom boom three just three three only three okay
01:54:01
Zoe Sinmine are real uh was it worth it um within the first week I would say the benefits that it came with the attention and everything I was in a relationship at the time when I got them but after we
01:54:13
Zoe Sinbroke up yeah the attention was nice it was cool I didn't really you know I kind of I could kind of tell that men were after me you know because I know I had like big Double D's and stuff but physically I don't think they're worth it because I used to get like pleasure
01:54:26
Zoe Sinfrom my you know areolas and I can't feel a [ __ ] thing and they hurt half the time how long ago did you get yours done because it can come 20 20. I only have feeling in one of mine yeah
01:54:37
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)they've gotten me indoors I I can't complain I have a genuine question this might be a dumb question like how does that affect like breastfeeding later at all yeah it can it can there's like it's
01:54:49
Gwenlike a percentage of people cannot breastfeed but it's like 15 chance yeah some people are able to some people aren't just biologically oh okay because that's always what I think of when I think
01:55:00
Brian Atlasall right and then TD TDI you you did a 50 before but it was blanks I'll read this but just remind her 199 and up for read ladies are you comfortable with the cost oh my God
01:55:12
Brian AtlasI feel like these poor girls are okay uh ladies are you comfortable with the cost that you will incur with being in the only fans industry everything has a cost QQ for the table please explain the cost
01:55:22
Zoe Sinis for being a 3fo as you if you guys want I don't know what the question is there are you the god the cause the cost of being in the of industry
01:55:36
Brian Atlasis that what is that a gifted sense or what hold on oh gifted Sweet Tooth thank you for the 20 gifted memberships appreciate it I really appreciate all the support guys
01:55:49
Brian Atlasespecially I'm absolute stress case with all the technical issues with we've been experiencing it's very unfortunate especially after our last stream was like P viewership 24 000 now it's just frustrating to go from like our one of
01:56:02
Zoe Sinour most viewed streams and then to face these technical issues in any case suite two things for the 20 gifted go ahead um yes I'm comfortable with the cause because I knew exactly what the hell I was signing up for but I feel like um like how Pearl was saying earlier which I'm glad this question came up and
01:56:16
Zoe Sinshe was like you know a lot of girls will get into this industry and whine and complain why is no one taking me seriously why does no one want to marry me bro I knew that from the beginning I only really started seriously dating the moment I was like I can't see so I started out in porn it's a little
01:56:29
Zoe Sindifferent it's definitely more intense the kind of hate you get only fans of me is I've seen it be more accepted but being in mainstream porn where you open up Pornhub and you're on the ads I didn't bother I did not even
01:56:41
Zoe Sinbother there's no way because I knew I'm not saying I knew I was low value or whatever you guys like to say high value low value but I knew that like my dating was going to be harder but I feel like a lot of people in only fans are so damned
01:56:52
Zoe Sindelusional being like well I am I am a traditional woman I am a high value no we're not sorry we just aren't and that's okay and you'll attract the people who are okay with what you do but yeah people want to complain that they can't
01:57:05
Gwenfind something be based on their decision of their line of work so I think I'm okay with it yeah I'm okay with it too I mean I've just found that the relationships that I have
01:57:17
Gwenum pursued and the people that I'm like really interested in are really open-minded and really not judgmental and don't um yeah and I mean so it really hasn't I don't know maybe I'm delusional but it hasn't affected me
01:57:29
Gwennegatively um but I also came into this like way before it was like the [ __ ] cool thing to do like I started doing only fans like like 2016 and 17. so I you know it was a lot more difficult for me
01:57:43
Gwenin the beginning when people were like what now people you know now that they feel like it's actually become more accepted so maybe for me I'm just used to more harsher judgment and it feels less less so all right rock and roll okay so I got
01:57:55
Brian Atlassome specific questions for each of you individually so I have a note here from Kiana uh you had an interesting first date anecdote something with a guy with a phone
01:58:06
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)yeah so I went on when I first fully got into um porn I was still or no I had moved here I had to move back so I'm originally from LA but I had moved back to LA and
01:58:19
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)that's when like one of the First videos I did was one of the biggest videos I did it was the Bangbus video which gets oh everyone knows what the big bus is that was my first video I ever filmed and what's
01:58:31
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)that I don't know what that is yeah it's a bus and they Bang Yeah so you pretty much have sex in a bus um but it's like very notorious and like is it the bus or more of a van it's a
01:58:43
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)it's a band it's a van it's not really a bus it's very uncomfortable to film in is it just you and one other person or is there like every every person yeah so it's you the person uh you're filming
01:58:56
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)with and then the person that's filming and the person that's striving okay so your first date go ahead so the first day I went on he it was I was like very new in the industry so I really didn't think that people knew me
01:59:08
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)um so I told him he told me that he like didn't watch porn he wasn't in to any of it I told him that I did only fans and then literally in the middle I was like about
01:59:20
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)to hook up with this person and like he opened his phone and his phone searched history was looked up and it was just Kiana Kimani porn and it was like 10 search histories of my name
01:59:32
Pearl Davis / Kiana (mixed)I was very scared you were scared yeah I mean I was alone with this person I was terrified because he swore up and down he didn't know me and like the whole date was it was great until I literally my because I told him