US Congressman vs. Feminists (ALMOST KICKED), E-girls, OF Girls! 1 SHOW LEFT! | Dating Talk #128

Date: 2023-12-18

Duration: 7h 12m

Guests

Brian Atlas

RRocky (DT128)>

KKorea (DT128)>

KKenzie (DT128)>

KKatherine (DT128)>

SSalem (DT128)>

DDeMaya (DT128)>

MMadison Cawthorn >

DDubai guest (DT128)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Kenzie(guest)

SPEAKER_05Korea/Anna(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Madison Cawthorn(guest)

SPEAKER_08Rocky(guest)

SPEAKER_09Asia(guest)

SPEAKER_10Katherine(guest)

SPEAKER_12Salem/DeMaya(guest)

SPEAKER_13Cindy Zang(guest)

SPEAKER_14Dubai guest(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMadison Cawthorn introduces himself as former NC-11 Congressman who now does commercial real estate in Naples FL. Youngest elected congressman at the time. Mentions wanting to run again after starting a family.

“hey everyone my name is Madison cauthorne I'm from the great Appalachian Mountains of North Carolina but I now live in Florida in Naples uh I do commercial real estate used to be in politics”

QuoteMadison describes the Senate staffer sex tape scandal: a gay pornographic video filmed in a Senate hearing room. Madison connects it to broader sexual misconduct in Washington DC.

“he went into this area I just saw like you know one screenshot and filmed a a um a homosexual erotic video of just full on sex and in in the US Senate in a hearing room”

QuoteKatherine shares she went to Planned Parenthood while 6 weeks pregnant but chose not to abort when she heard the heartbeat. Baby's father initially pushed for abortion.

“I always told myself if it has a heartbeat I'm not going to do it like if I know has a heartbeat I'm not doing it and when I was there I found out it was she was 6 weeks”

ControversyBrian accuses a female guest of using loaded language ('teenagers') to frame his questions about body count in a bad light. Extended back-and-forth about whether the framing was disingenuous.

“you're trying to be kind of Shifty about it but that's a very loaded way to ask that question”

QuoteDubai guest explains she does OnlyFans to fund her real estate and fashion business goals; has already invested in property. Sets $600K/year passive income as exit threshold. Leaving for Dubai.

“the only reason I do it is to kind of fund what I really want to do which is like go into like fashion and you know have my own business and invest in like property and real estate”

QuoteMadison reveals he discovered a girl he was dating had an OnlyFans through a biometric search using her tattoo. He ended the relationship, saying he cannot be with her as he is an example to young men.

“we have a lot of programs we just used the tattoo she had not been doing only fans for a very long time...instantly popped up her pictures and I was like listen like I personally cannot be with you because I'm an example to young men”

QuoteBrian rates himself 5/10 for looks due to weight gain and dad bod. Madison says he was 9.5 at age 24 (Congress thumbnail) and is now an 8.

“I get myself uh I used to say six but I'm a five because I've gained some weight I've got a dad bod right now I need to lose it”

QuoteMadison explains his sex rule: he will not have sex with a woman unless he is in love with her, and he only falls in love if he believes she would be a good mother.

“I will not have sex with a girl if I'm not in love with her and I will only fall in love with a girl if I'm if she is I think she would be a perfect like a good mom”

OtherRocky and another guest reveal they have chastity keys (for a male 'slave'/simp in a penis cage). Madison repeatedly tries to look away. Extended back-and-forth before they offer to show it.

“chassity keys are like basically cage for a...their penis is an occasion no literally you should show him you should show him yeah you want to see it we have it”

QuoteKenzie shares story of being flown out by an unnamed rapper who had a girlfriend. She decided not to have sex with him; fell asleep while he made moves; he left the hotel room. She checked out the next morning.

“I'm at the airport and I'm on the phone with my friend and he's like he has a girlfriend...I knew I was not going to have sex with him”

QuoteDubai guest describes getting a severe kidney infection while at Ken Carson's studio session. Passed out on the couch with her mouth open while Ken Carson, Lonely, and others were present. Found it extremely embarrassing.

“I literally fall on the ground and throw up everywhere on melro...the guy that I was like there with takes a picture of me on the couch passed out with my mouth wide open in front of all of them”

QuoteMadison explains why some Western men are converting to Islam: frustration that Christianity is perceived as passive/weak while Islam aggressively defends its prophet. Madison says he doesn't condone violence but understands the appeal.

“guys just think that people in the American Christian Church have confused meekness for weakness...in Islam if people attack you Muhammad they'll blow up a freaking office building”

Topics Discussed

Introductions

Guests introduce themselves: Cindy Zang, Rocky, Korea, Kenzie, Katherine, Asia, Anna, Salem, DeMaya, Madison Cawthorn.

Congressional sex tape / Senate scandal

Madison Cawthorn discusses Daily Caller story about a Senate staffer filming an erotic video in a Senate hearing room. Debate about what tax dollars are spent on.

Relationship status round

Each guest shares current relationship status, longest relationship, recent history. Includes Cindy's celibacy, Rocky's polyamory, Korea's Roblox LDR, Katherine's co-parenting situation.

Paternity testing debate

Should mandatory paternity testing at birth be implemented? Most guests support mandatory testing; debate on whether it protects both parents.

OnlyFans and sex work

Extended discussion on OnlyFans as a career: financial goals (Dubai guest sets $600K passive income), parental reactions, future relationship prospects, dad's reaction hypotheticals, content permanence on the internet.

Physical attractiveness and aging

Debate on whether women are more attractive now or in 10 years. Most guests claim they will be more attractive later; Brian and Madison argue peak attractiveness is in early-mid 20s for women. Extended argument over whether self-ratings are delusional.

Tattoos, attractiveness, and male preferences

Discussion on whether tattoos on women increase or decrease attractiveness. Brian and Madison argue most men find heavy tattoos neutral to negative; guests push back.

Dating standards and situationships

Brian explains he wants women to be properly single and fully focused on him from the first date. Madison discusses similar standards. Korea and guests push back on exclusivity demands.

BDSM and kink debate

Rocky discusses BDSM/power dynamics. Brian argues paying men into bankruptcy is exploitative/mental illness. Rocky defends negotiated consent in BDSM. Madison discusses Biblical submission in marriage.

Male submission / women kneeling / relationship power dynamics

Brian says he requires a woman to bow to him as a sign of respect. Rocky and others debate whether this constitutes BDSM. Madison explains Biblical husband-wife leadership model.

Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Cindy: 10, Kenzie: 9, some guests 8, one 7, Salem: 10. Brian rates himself 5. Madison was 9.5 at 24, now 8. Extended debate on whether high self-ratings are delusional.

Sex timing / waiting to have sex

Brian says he has no rule about waiting; willing to have sex on the first date. Madison says he will not have sex unless he is in love and sees the woman as a potential good mother.

Feminist identity

Brian asks each guest if they consider themselves a feminist. Mixed responses.

Orange peel theory / dating tests

Discussion of 'orange peel theory' — asking a partner to peel an orange as a test of care and service. Brian says on first dates he has the girl fold laundry as his own version.

Rapper stories

Kenzie shares story of being flown out by a rapper (unnamed); no sex occurred; he left when she fell asleep. Dubai guest shares kidney infection story at Ken Carson/Lonely studio session. Cindy mentions meeting Snoop Dogg professionally.

Men fleeing to Islam / Middle East

Madison discusses why some Western men are converting to Islam: frustration that Christianity is perceived as weak while Islam is seen as militant in defense of its faith.

Transcript

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Katherineway of true connection yeah oh cuz and me saying that you were saying this one point about yourself how you want a girl to kind of be all about you right yeah I kind of feel like from

Katherinewhat I've kind of experienced with going on dates and stuff I do get that um energy kind of from guys like they want me to really show them I'm really about

Katherinethem but it's a little bit like contradictory to me because I want them to pursue me and then I feel like once I see their effort in pursuing me I can

Katherinereciprocate that um affection that they're looking for but I feel like straight off the bat the guys are kind of like okay show me how much you like me and I I just don't like doing that

Katherinebecause I just feel a man should pursue yes so do I but I think it's a man's ego because everyone's out here thinking oh we deserve the best you're number one

Katherinelove yourself you're awesome and guys are having that too which is great but it's almost like a an ego thing because they don't want to get hurt so then they can't really be like vulnerable and show

Madison Cawthornthat side to the woman and actually pursue but that that kind of whole thing you're talking about where guys are getting that too it's a feminine trait like this whole like self-belief thing is a feminine trait like guys we should

Madison Cawthornbe brutal with ourselves like the way you hear me talk like when you I I speak out loud I'm like oh I am great I'm good at this like all affirmations but in my head I am like so critical of the littlest things like oh I stuttered on

Madison Cawthornthe word but 16 sentences ago like in a three-hour speech and I'm like well that means I just got to go do like 700 push-ups and just torture myself dude and I honestly feel like it's not to be

Dubai guestlike anti-feminist or whatever anist a woman but I lowy feel like feminism has been pushed so freaking much that it's

Dubai guestcaused like a lack of masculinity in men like it's like okay like there was a point where okay women weren't getting equ jobs or equal pay but now it's like okay they're getting equal jobs and equal pay but now it's like they feel

Dubai guestlike they need to take over and like not enough men are getting jobs now or not enough men are you know so it like contradicts the fact where it's like women want the men to be the the women

Dubai guestwant the men to pay and stuff but it's like also like if you are the type of girl to be like oh feminism and like d and then want that when you're like want his job or want you know what I mean

Dubai guestlike not that you shouldn't but like it's like now it's caused a lack of like now men feel more feminine and they're put in places where they're there's so

Dubai guestmuch feminine energy where it's like they forget that all the traditional and like whatever how it was so I feel like it's honestly because of the movement

Brian Atlasthat you're right you're 100% right feminism is to blame for all the ills that are facing the society I 100% agree with you you're super based feminis is toxic feminism is toxic for

Brian Atlasmen and women it's uh it's absolutely disastrous to society and to men and to relationship and to kids and to boys and I I 100% cosign I 100% cosign moving on with Catherine here you said one time

Katherineyou were making out with a guy and I saw a microen and the guy acted like it was big after that I had to go and that's when I that's when I like discovered that I would not be able to do like a

Brian Atlassmall penis question though if you said he acted like it was big it if he didn't act like it was big would you still have been cool with it I think if he would

Katherinehave presented himself in like a more modest way it wouldn't have been like as big of a turnoff and I feel like I could have been able to you know level with him as a human cuz I'm not perfect

Katherinenobody here here is perfect but I think it was more just uh just the way it was presented to me that I was just like you're not going to make me stupid here

Brian Atlasis he a wct yeah I was like or is it cuz some guys are are what's it called The Grow they they're Growers not showers it was it was so if sometimes flaccid can

Katherinebe not that big I mean it's it's the smallest one I've ever seen um don't know here show us with your finger no no no no show show us like this how big it was probably a little bit bigger than

Brian Atlasthat no should you show so I know what you're talking about you show it like maybe like this wait show it to the camera maybe like this that's small to you that's like five I've seen one like that's like

Brian Atlasaverage no that was that was like hard though wait can you show bro that's not no no no do it to the camera again do it to the no no no hold it up hold it up hi

Brian Atlashi hi hi there you go not even the two fingers that's this is small that is I get a ruler but that's like four or five in yeah that's not that's not a micro

Brian Atlaspenis micro not micro but it's it's on the smaller side it's slight looks like slightly below average yeah this girl's just been dudes with giant dicks I guess all the other dicks afterwards

Brian Atlasthis is why you don't want like to I mean this is why body count is this is why body count matters because like you you you land on a dude like who's super but no well there's a lot of Reason keep in mind there's a lot of

Katherinereasons why all we were doing was making out he's one initiated he just took off his pants and the reason why I said like he was proud of it cuz he he like

Brian Atlaswhipped it out he said he said touch it wait that's not that hold on and I was like were were you guys starting to get into a state of undress no we were just

Brian Atlaslike making out like heavy making out what okay question like try to be totally unbiased here were you up until the micr penis which it's not even the

Brian Atlasmicropenis were you like DTF be honest were you down to yeah so it's I don't think it's out of the like if you were DTF you were

Brian Atlasdown it was heading in that direction he's maybe a little cocky with it but I feel like maybe wasn't the most don't you want don't you want a guy to be confident though you don't want you

Katherinedon't want a guy to be like oh my God I'm so insecure about my dick blah blah blah blah blah disrespectful like I mean number one it was disrespectful for you to just whip out your penis and say

Brian Atlastouch it so disrespectful weird girls will say that girls will say oh that's so disrespectful and want a guy to drag you by your hair slam you up against the wall kiss you deeply and passionately

Brian Atlastalk all kinds of dirty into your ear bend you up like come on bro you most girls like come on bro it's disrespectful it you were down to

Cindy Zangso like come on I don't need to I don't need to interrupt can I guess some water yeah okay Cindy there's more in the can you get her some water um yeah

Katherinelike I said I think it was more just the way it was presented and I think it just kills the whole vibe from it so maybe as before I was DTF now I'm like uh but you wanted it to be more of like a more

Brian Atlasgradual slow buildup you felt it was too like like if you pulled it out and then it was almost more cringy because I actually you know what I want to walk back my statement I see what I want to

Brian Atlaswalk it back a little bit I actually if if it's like just way too like if there wasn't this sort of gradual buildup I can especially if it's your first time yeah I can get I get that I get that yeah if he just was like you're

Katherinejust making out your clothes are still on and he's just like exactly I get it okay more than anything I just felt very awkward because I think as a man you you you want to make them feel like you know

Katherineyou like their penis they are going to feel good about that when you make them feel that way and I can't just fake it and be like oh wow it's so I I mean every girl I sleep with has the best

Dubai guestever I want to know what you said when he did that though like did you just like awkwardly be like I think my face probably said like did he put it back like like if he had I didn't touch it I

Brian Atlasdid not touch it if he had had a giant schlong would the move have gone over better you think if it was just like Anaconda like just a

Katherinemaybe I'm going to be honest maybe sorry Madison but only because at that point same thing though like pulled it out and well that's what I'm talking about I'm like don't pull it out like you're so proud and it's like like maybe don't

Katherinelead with that we weren't there so I don't know like how cocky he was being but I can definitely see if he was being like kind of a little too cocky about it yeah it's like I don't know how to act because do you want me to keep hyping

Katherineyou up like oh yeah like I'm not going to do that especially when you didn't initiate for him to take it out you know what I mean like he just pulled it out actually no tact wait do I want to

Brian Atlasreveal this I don't know you do yeah you do go spill the teeth I look I think I'm really modest in that department like I I would it bro I don't give a I feel like I've got an average penis

Brian Atlasright and like I actually like if if I'm with a girl yeah this shit's kind of funny if I'm with a girl and she's like it's so big i'm like shut the up no it's not

Brian AtlasI'm like bro it's average I don't want you to tell me it's big bro just say it's average dude I know it's average you want a girl to be like oh yeah I don't some girl say don't want

Brian Atlasher to say anything about my that like what do you want her to say so actually the C aage no I don't want her to say it's an average penis it's just like I don't have a big dick don't tell me I

Katherinehave a big dick it's it's I got an average penis I've got an average penis it's like like a guy telling a girl oh my gosh your boobs are just so huge and it's like not yeah I hate that

Brian AtlasI mean the she might have small boobs they might be nice boobs like I I like small boobs small boobs are cool big big boobs are cool too but like yeah if I'm in bed with a girl and she's like oh my

Dubai guestGod it's so big I'm like shut the up you liar it is big for her you know cuz some average sometimes they're tight sometimes they're look they're tight

Brian Atlaswhatever they're yeah and it's big to them motion of the ocean also I will say also I will say like here's here's the crazy thing and we were kind of talking about like like how a lot of the girls

Brian Atlashere haven't come with most of the guys they've been with um I will say that I think that the women's orgasm response is much more varied than men's orgasm response

Brian Atlasand like I think a like granted some men can be very different but for example I think the spectrum of like for example I've been with with a girl who can come within 5 seconds and she can

Brian Atlashave multiples and she can squirt and it's like I barely have to do anything and then I'm spoiled right and it's liter I'm not even exaggerating literally like I enter her and she's

Brian Atlascoming wow sorry Madison um or like literally three Strokes boom she's already came and then she keeps it's insane and then you'll have other girls who you'll do the most for she

Brian Atlascan't even come from like vaginal like penetrative sex you got to get toys involved you got to get like uh carpal tunnel syndrome on your hand and like bro it's hard dude i' be trying to make some of these chicks come I'm like my hand

Katherinehurts hello it's because I feel like with men it's more just about sensation but with women it's like sensation and mental it's more right that's why you got to like pull her hair and be

Brian Atlasin her ear and just talking all kinds of filth okay never mind I'm saying good girl what very freaky huh very freaky we know what Brian no this is

Brian Atlasthis is like vanilla this is pretty vanilla but wow um what was I saying um uh what was

Brian Atlasuh something about peanut I don't know said that orgasms veryy oh yeah like um I mean my goal was sex guys and girls at least for me my goal was sex like I want

Brian Atlasto make my girl come before me and if she can multiple times before me can you tell everyone to be that way well like my view is is like

Brian Atlaslike I I don't get these guys that don't because okay obviously one you want to please your partner you want to make sure that your partner's satisfied and then even if I let's say I approach it

Brian Atlasfrom a really selfish point of view if I make my girl come before me like not not all girls are going to be like this but she's going to be like ravenous afterwards like if she's come if she

Brian Atlasravenous it's going to be ravenous and also like from a purely selfish perspective let's say I'm having sex with her and she's coming while I'm inside of her that feels really

Brian Atlasgood pie sorry Madison wait what no um what and that feels good and she's going to get super wet so if I want to be totally selfish for my own

Brian Atlaspleasure you should want your girl to come either before you her or during that's my view even does it give you pleasure when she comes it turns me on yeah it turns me on and I I want I

Brian Atlaswant her to why is it everyone but it's not it's not there is a selfish component of like it feels better for me but it's but I do I do want to please my girl like I want her to get off pre

Brian Atlasagain before me so you can do that with hands you can do that with toys oh yeah penis if you can sometimes it's hard though sometimes the penis doesn't do it and you know most girls don't actually

Dubai guestknow that they're orgasm so a lot some girls can't come or it's really hard most girls can't like especially from in like just purely y it's so it's so normal so for a long

Brian Atlastime I was like why is this not happening to me like some girls can't even come with toys if she can't come with toys you're not good good luck and it's just it's a normal thing I feel like no one should feel like you know no I agree though I think like there's

Brian Atlasdefinitely dudes that I mean if you're engaging in casual sex though a lot of these guys probably aren't they're more focused the crazy even if I was like having a not that I like one night stands because if I have sex with a girl I want there to be continuity like any girl that I want to have sex with I want

Brian Atlasto continue seeing her I don't know if that makes me like an outlier like most dudes are trying to hit and quit it I think that's a waste of time but like I would want I would still even in the one night stand situation which I don't like I would still want to make the girl come

Brian Atlasso um so anyways good times good times good times very good times good good CH okay all right uh

Dubai guestso but it was a micropenis huh I think it was wait guys does size matter wait yes wait going around the table

Background/miscdoes size matter yes yes no no hard yes uh size Queen's over here go ahead it's okay you need a 9

Dubai guestiner we get it no oh okay all right yes for me as long as it's not a micr penis and you

Brian Atlasknow how to use it then Size Doesn't Matter I with what she just said and y'all were shaming y'all got penis preferences I have lebia preferences

Cindy Zangmicro penis is a is still considered a dick so um right no you're so quick yeah it's a

Brian Atlasyou know it's a skill um I will say actually to wait question for you so did you like did you walk out in that moment no like I waited like a little bit after like wait did you guys no oh okay

Katherineno no no I'm tell after that it killed the vibe it killed the vi so we kind of stopped making out for a little bit and then I was just like I think I'm going to go home you guys probably thought about that every day I never saw him

Katherineafter that yeah he thought about that for a long time rip and and that's the thing again I'm not trying to like shame him to be like oh but it's it's the way it was presented to me more than anything I mean the more the more once

Brian Atlasyou really explained it it sounded pretty not tactful yeah good good okay we have Salem here she want wants to talk more about her pay pigs 1 million total bankrupted guy oh no okay

Brian Atlasnot going to talk about that one um oh your only fan says that you're a goofy switch who also likes to experiment with Kinks yes I am a switch you also in your only fans it says you do three Sims girl girl

Brian Atlasboy girl solo content toy play cream pies facials BDSM content actually I haven't done that yet but which one cream pies facials it literally it says it CU I'm meaning to do that but I

Cindy Zanghaven't posted the FTC get her for false advertising hello bro these girl oh yeah I do cream pot can I ask a random can like whenever she wants to I don't like talking about

Madison Cawthornmy sex life like in public public forums that's fine that's F I'm from the south okay goodr boy but what is like the recruitment process for like guys for

Dubai guestlike your do you just like walk around like dude you congratulations no no no no ever since I started I was in a relationship and I've only been with one guy or filmed with

Dubai guestone guy I would never film with other other guys sorry my bad but wait so on your off though you have done three Sims uh with girls oh with girl yeah like

Brian Atlasthree so three girls total uh yeah you've done girl girl content yes well duh Brian okay boy girl content yes okay but not the cream pies and facials even

Brian Atlasthough it's listed I just have not yet posted them cuz I'm still like okay false advertising okay good times um you do custom videos picks texting sessions

Brian Atlasdick rates you rate dicks you're dick Raider okay is it on a one to 10 scale I thought all dicks are tens or wait

Brian Atlaswhat are all dick no no I thought okay um you said tips get priority messages oh you're going to Dubai for six months we talked about that oh hey go uh go to

Brian AtlasSho just it's like they have a free flight over Egypt is phenomenal uh you've you have you bankrupted any guys since your last appearance no no okay

Brian Atlasdid you say bankrupt a million what who said that she's been she was previously on the show and she has like pay pigs that pay her or whatever and I think the

Brian Atlasthe the total amount that she's made allegedly all from from her pay pigs and sugar daddies and sugar daddies is over a million dollars and you're 19 right 20

Kenzieoh so would you just consider that like off of only fans or would you like how do you differentiate if it's between like pay pigs I think it doesn't when

Dubai guestwhen they asked me that question I it was like sugar daddy's pay pigs so yeah I was included yeah literally it's like a dude who a pay pig is a dude who just

Brian Atlaslike sends girls money for pretty much nothing they of it in such a wild world life life on easy to be have just never that's wild yeah actually let's go

Brian Atlasaround the table on this so um um just since people who are watching now might not be familiar with everything you said Salem um you've in total you've made a million from like

Brian Atlassimps and uh pay pigs and sugar daddies just sending you money correct correct what what was the highest amount that you've ever been paid in one transaction I wouldn't really like to

Dubai guesttalk about like payments and like amounts I think you did before yeah I know but it was like total like yeah I just don't really like want to like but okay has one guy there's been multiple

Dubai guestguys who have sent you over six figures total correct no not one guy but I've made six figures off like like collectively well no you've made Seven figures collectively $1 million well yeah like collectiv but

Brian Atlasthere's one there's it sounded to me I could if I'm recalling this incorrectly well again well maybe I there's been some guys there's some guys who have sent you over

Brian Atlas$100,000 total no well no 30,000 oh okay yeah cool going around the table do you have any pay pigs or sugar daddies currently or no I just do only

Brian Atlasfans and Playboy actually too I do playy Playboy interval yeah I'm proud of you Cindy yeah congrats thank you you're a legend can't anybody just create one of

Brian Atlasthose Playboy Center fold Pages you need an invite Playboy asked me but oh they have to invite you so you just email them like can I get a playable Center folder they DM you can you can apply you

Brian Atlascan apply okay uh going on the table sugar daddies no sugar daddies right now pay pigs though you got pay pigs tell us a bit bit about that tell you what about

Brian Atlasit um well like what's the degree to which they're being pay pigs how much are they like what's the what's the most you ever ever got in one transaction I am also not going to discuss that either

Brian Atlasso but they pay small amounts over a period of time and whenever I ask how about can you provide like total you've made I'd rather not seven seven figures

Brian Atlasmore I'd rather not yeah okay rights what about you any sugar daddies or pay pigs or any like dude sending you 500 bucks for feet pics that kind of weird no offense dudes but that

Brian Atlasshit's kind of weird um any sugar daddies pay pigs here and there but um they're def have you ever sent Fe pics of course have you ever sent feet piics hell no I mean I do

Brian Atlasonly F Cindy you've sent feet picks yeah send the asteroid boys send the

Brian Atlasasteroid sending what the oh boom Madison almost saved us there um so feed pick you send feed pics yes Haram okay um

Asiahurah um you're okay no any P pigs or sugar dades what about you before yeah yeah

Asiabut okay so okay okay okay okay I've had during that like how does it go it was actually it

Asiacan you do it can you do it no I cannot I'm above that now it was that period it's cute I think it's so cute are you kidding cute I started doing that when Bella porch is that her name like that

Asiashe made it like a trend she made it like like and then I did and for some reason people were like oh yeah Bill porch 2.0 so you had the shirt you had the sugar daddy yeah you had a couple

Asiasugar daddies I I okay I've had two at the same time okay but um nothing like really major like nothing major they

Asiawould but I had plenty of people would like ask me for feet pics someone would ask for like would you send them no well

AsiaI okay uh you have I have for how much what's the cost f piix um well it's it's kind of strange

Asiasomebody wanted a fe picture for $500 and I was like it's $500

Dubai guestfor500 hey yo Madison how much for you to sell Fe piix I just you wouldn't do it I just wouldn't do it someone said I $30,000 you would not do it what what

Brian Atlasnumber over here wants to pay you $30,000 for for p picture of my foot yeah man no I just I can't get on into it no it's just like it's not like you're dick no no I completely

Madison Cawthornunderstand that it's just like you have to like I have to imagine like what's going to be the downside like it's going to be a political article Madison C God Madison are you saying there's no

Madison Cawthornnumber that could buy you oh absolutely there's a number million dollar yeah million dollars absolutely okay also I want to make something clear when I had the two sugar daddies I wasn't like doing

Asiaanything like like yeah you're just extracting money from them same no actually no no no that's what the sugar daddy is I mean they would only want to have a conversation with me a lot of

Asiajust like but for money right yeah what was the cost it was cheap I was I was not that I was like 50 bucks for 20 minutes no usually it's not like a set

Asiayeah it's not like a yeah if they would say something like too much like an extra like a lot amount of money I'd like no like you don't need to do that like I would do $20 just for a phone

Asiaconversation you know okay so I was wait $200 oh $20 yeah I wasn't bump them prices no I wasn't trying I wasn't

Asiatrying to like just I'm not a taker you know I'm not I like using people so I was like whatever sweet what about you any sugar daddies pay pigs none well

Brian Atlasyou're currently dating dudes who just like get you food get you smoke you out so they're kind of I don't think that counts as like a sugar Dad how much does that stuff cost like like smoking where

Korea/Annayou go Cheesecake Factory Red Lobster where you going where she going yeah weed's expensive at the dispensary they tax there's really high taxes so you just get it from the locals

Brian Atlasno I go to the dispo no s Salem what's oh I think we already went over Salem's stuff um what about you any pay pigs sugar

Brian Atlasdaddies okay have you ever had a sugar mama Madison no are you down are you down for like a sugar mama it depends like what it means what if she just like got you a bunch of Z she like

Brian Atlasyo for Life talk to her about Christ or whatever and basically they yo all the sugar m in the chat you got to DM Madison right now and he's

Kenziegoing to talk to you about Jesus religion Brian I'm sure you've gotten like a DM or something oh yeah of someone being like

Brian Atlassoliciting no I you know what I actually I have not had a like a proper Sugar Mama offer what about a guy I mean I've had girls I've had girls offer to like

Brian Atlastake me on dates and or like girls who are like down to fly out to come and see me but I've never had a girl who's like let me financially support you what about cuz I'm really I haven't had a no

Madison CawthornI feel like maybe one dude like I've maybe had one dude I get or financially support I guess it's like my name oh you got a lot of like gud and there's also like like Log Cabin

Madison CawthornRepublicans was like a big thing what's that it's just like would you say your name is like a is a unisex oh no I've got a girl name it's not un so my dad had a boy named Su philosophy you know let's a really cute name though yeah

Madison Cawthornit's great I love my name I would not give up my name for anything like I'm waiting for the sugar mamas where are the sugar M but would you actually accept money from them why do

Brian Atlasyoude this is this is like equality yeah I'm I'm super down to do a rooll reversal on this you want as a chick you want to send me free money but what

Brian Atlaswould you do in return mhm will to all the that women don't do for the sugar daddies that they have what do you mean what would I do I

Brian Atlaswould everything yeah huh what I'm saying is like a lot of y'all do nothing and get all this money I would equally

Dubai guestdo nothing and yes you can send me money if you want we don't do no yeah you talk relationship but it's talking to them all the time that doesn't like go your

Brian Atlastraditional is like 7 if you want my Fe pix that's 7K you can make 7K yeah I'm a I'm I'm in expensive I'm expensive so sorry ladies I know my I know my wor

Brian Atlaspained I actually think Salem over here like kind of you need like for uh for I don't know if the right what the right word is retribution Salem you have to be like

Brian Atlasthis is the circle of this the simp Circle of Life Salem you have to be my sugar mama to make up for all the like pay pigs that you have are you down actually you know what's crazy like in

Brian AtlasJapan I don't know if you guys know with uh Japan how there's these uh like a lot of the women who are prostitutes they in turn be maybe from the trauma or

Brian Atlaswhatever they will go to these host clubs where they pay men to sort of be their boyfriends oh oh yeah you can rent like a girlfriend and boyfriend in is that like an

Brian Atlasescort uh well no the hosts don't even really sleep with them they just like give them attention can literally just be someone to take out on a date but what I'm saying is ladies all of you

Brian Atlasgirls who do only fans here like I'm here to be your emotional support just pay me a ton of money if I be your SU you'll be my emotional support how much you pay me would you get him a vest

Brian Atlaslike do not P depends on how good your your session your therapy sessions are Oh I'm great I'm super good I'm super good but I'm expensive we'll see how

Madison Cawthorngood I'm expensive Salem but this is the simp Circle of Life tra so we'll see I don't like crying cry can I ask one big question girls who like have an only

Madison Cawthornfans did you guys have any like super traumatic thing that happened I don't want to know what it is like what you say have you had like a like a big traumatic incident in your life hasn't everybody no

Brian Atlaswell get B but Salem since we've been talking for you a little bit Salem I will save you I will fix you you're going to abandon your degenerate heathenistic life in Los Angeles are you

Brian Atlasin La where do you live Orange County you're going to abandon your degenerate hedonistic life in Orange County you're not going to go to Dubai you're going to delete your only fans I will be your

Brian Atlassugar sugar you're going to be my Sugar Mama I'll be your sugar how are we going to give you money if we can't do only F that's true okay continue your are you going to all of us as long as I'm your sugar be sa all of you who do only fans

Dubai guestexcept for you Cindy I will be your sugar baby I'll be your sugar baby I'll be your sugar baby no but the thing is is when I go to the Middle East I completely stop my only F usually but I'll be here for

Dubai guestI'll be here for you I'll hold it down I'm going to hold it down Salem I'm going to hold it down interesting I can't do it over there my allowance like you literally can't first of all I literally can't second of all I don't want to do it while I'm over there it's

Brian Atlasjust can you afford my allowance my I I have a $69,000 a month allowance is that too much that's light um that's light that's light can you afford it I just said that's a light

Kenziethat means yeah it's a lot of it's a lot of money maybe she should be a sugar mama o tell you what Salem I'll give you the homie discount we'll do 50k okay 50 I'm a nice guy I'm a nice guy that's way

Brian Atlasbetter um okay Cindy what about you can you afford me can you afford my allowance no yeah I'm trying to do the simp circle of life here it's not

Brian Atlasyou guys got to give back you got have you thought about the philanthropy where's the philanthropy in you guys come on you got to give back okay it's the circle of life all right we've gone okay we did oh Salem tell us about the

Brian Atlasbankrupting stuff oh God tell us about that what do you mean bankrupt only bankrupted one person have you bankrupted any guys no I have not I thought you do findom but not everyone

Brian Atlasgets bankrupted oh okay have you made a guy take out the second mortgage on this house no Salem any second mortgages on the house

Brian Atlasto okay Cap all right we have God the blast here uh you wanted to talk about what wait what was that I'm just

Brian Atlasbeing cute oh okay cool yeah I I wasn't sure um red flags and guys and girls who's more complicated in a relationship guys or girls um it depends yeah it

Dubai guestreally depends girls could be but a guy could be like I this is for you though God the blast oh where what you said you want to talk about the

Brian AtlasJimmy NE Dron yeah yeah such a good shot yeah it is split I miss that okay did you want to talk about that all

Asiagirls um I just wanted to know what the girls think because majority of the time I would hear girls saying like oh nothing nothing that they're doing is like making the relationship complicated

Asiaand they're always like quick to blame the guy for the complications so I just wanted to like see like what everyone like thought about that because although

Asiait can go both ways do you feel like guys are more complicated in the relationship or do you feel like you can be more complicated in the relationship it really depends H that's a good question certain relationship on what

Dubai guestthe dynamic is and what's going on and you know like if one person's a cheater or if one person's a gaslighter manipulator like you know what I mean it really can go both ways but a lot of relationships tend to have a lot of

Dubai guestgaslighting and I feel like that's a big issue because if one person in the relationship doesn't really know how to recognize gaslighting they could be easily manipulated and like if there's a

Dubai guestproblem let's say we're dating and I did something but then I'll quickly spin it on you and then you'll believe that and feel like you did the wrong when in reality you did nothing I feel like that

Asiahappens a lot in relationships I'm not going to lie girls do that a lot CU they're good at that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying because girls are so quick to like they're really good at guess to not even like own up to their wrongs do that do that too yeah I agree

Brian Atlaswith you guys when women do everything wrong you're totally right men do that too everything wrong whenever like there's a relationship ending it's always the woman okay I'm kidding I'm kidding uh I mean I think dudes can definitely be like sassy and like

Dubai guestsometimes I'm like yeah I'm kind of being sassy like what the I my recognize that a lot of guys don't bro sometimes I'm in a mood bro I think I might I don't know you know I

Katherinethink that women I get moody I'm a moody sometimes um I'm pretty levelheaded though I'm pretty levelheaded not a lot of U I think that sometimes women can also be kind of manipulative

Katherinewith their emotions and they like like play into that a lot and I think guys their natural response well some of them will kind of be like oh like they want

Katherineto cater to them and try to fix the problem and I think that sometimes girls kind of stay in that victim mode a lot and that's also very damaging to a

Brian Atlasrelationship period okay um let's see we have uh okay I just have notes on for two more of you guys we have and leas um One time my n

Korea/Annaninth grade ex carved my initials in his why don't you tell the story okay go ahead anise am I saying your name right yeah anise anise um oh

Korea/Annathank you um one time just like I was in ninth grade like I was 14 I was in my first relationship or whatever like it wasn't even an actual relationship but

Korea/Annathis dude was just really mentally ill like he had so many issues like he broke into a house like was stealing cars like he had serious

Korea/Annaproblems and I told him you know since you're doing all that I I I got to go and he decides to carve my initials a into his chest and then snap me a pick

Korea/Annaof it and you know 14-year-old me was like she belong oh s sorry I did not mean to press that one next commitment what oh

Korea/AnnaI was just scared so I like told my mom yeah I'm not going to lie I've done that before and he got like sent away is he I've done that before you car initial

Dubai guestinitials wait you did that yeah I used to be really oh girl wait say into the mic no yeah I've done that before like when I was like 14 and I was in like a relationship with a guy way older than

Dubai guestme and uh I had never even met him he was like some really some artist at the time I don't know if you guys saw this I don't know if you guys saw this video

Brian Atlasthis video recently kind of went yeah I think this video recently went viral where there was a dude who was like it was like the almost like what's the

Brian Atlasword for it he was in his car and he drove his car into a shopping mall because his girlfriend broke up with him and like the noises he were making were so like

Dubai guestanimalistic it was like scary I'm like bro it's scary how much that happens or like a lot of guys will like do things and then blame it oh cuz she broke up

Dubai guestwith me or cuz d d and then they'll do really violent acts and then blame it on my ex got my initial tatted on him would you would you guys ever get would you

Dubai guestguys ever get your significant other tatted on you if he was my husband yeah husband oh in general in general like let's say you've been together for like

Katherineeight months you're dating no eight months or like a year okay a year a year no not even a year no I'm doing it good we

Katherineknow okay Brian I had like a question for her but I don't know if I could like ask her right now what me well no for you cuz you had said that after this um he was saying oh I hope that like I

Katherinecould change any of your minds and you were like oh this actually made me want to become like want makes me want to do only fans like why would you say that like after this conversation you want to

Korea/Annado only fans I think it was a joke yeah yeah it was somewhat a joke but it's like she are confident they got M money do your thing don't let anyone stop you I

Kenziecould work a 9 to5 and have a career and have o i wasn't with I think it gets tricky whenever you try to mix like certain careers with only fans I think

Kenzieit's glamorized a lot as well I don't don't think it's for everybody every make you have to weigh the the tradeoffs

Cindy Zangif look I I understand the appeal okay a lot of say something she can work a 95 right she can make that money save up

Cindy Zangmaybe use that money to buy a new apartment have nicer like well yeah but a lot of girls think they can join go ahe continue Cindy go ahead she can have like she can buy her own like new

Cindy Zangapartment new studio where she can make those only fans content more and um everything is about consistency everything is about putting your heart

Cindy Zangand soul into something and that's what's going to come out that's good so if you're if you want to do a business you got to put your heart and soul you got to invest in yourself so if you're

Cindy Zangnot doing that then it's not going to work in your favor I'm not trying to say that like people that are right now in their house not where they are like they

Cindy Zangmay not be even in the nicest apartment does not mean that you cannot make it I was making I was making content on an iPhone I was I did not have money I was

Cindy Zanggrinding on Tik Tok for so long build my fan base and that's how I got to have this privilege to do what I do

Dubai guestnow because I manifested this lifestyle and it's beautiful yeah but I also think a lot of oh let me just do only fans like I'll make a bunch of money and like it's so

Dubai guesteasy but then then I've seen a lot of girls start only fans be consistent and do everything that everyone else is doing and fail and not make money I think the social media behind it is like

Dubai guesta big part of yeah it could take you years to make even as much as you're making on a regular 9 to5 yeah it's not I think a lot of people think you like make the account and you're like Rich exactly you post like one thing and doom like you're oh yeah that's the other

Brian Atlasthing like that's not it the upside is you can make a ton of money but there's a chance that you don't succeed and you make an average amount of money or even like very little so and you have

Brian Atlasthat on your name and then that's out there forever but uh I mean I understand the appeal because like hm can I do this kind of degenerate thing for a couple

Brian Atlasyears and make a ton of money and then I can retire early and not cuz I get it like slaving away at some corporate office job sucks the soul out of you like it's most people

Brian Atlasare not going to be the reality is when it comes to what you do for work you're probably you're not going to have a career you're going to have a job it's going to be like not something that's particularly fulfilling you're going to

Brian Atlasbe making a ton of money probably for somebody else or not even yeah you're going to be doing some like kind of lame job and py um you're just going

Brian Atlasto be a wage slave and just being a corporate drone and okay I'm going to work until I'm 65 and I'm 9 to5 for all I get it I get it but what you

Kenziedo also have to ask yourself what is the tradeoff so agre that's why I started doing YouTube that I ain't do no cor do you think you experience trouble in relationships with what you

Brian Atlasdo uh I mean I've said it before on the podcast there's certainly women that wouldn't want to date me because of what I do I think one of the differences though is like and I I don't know if we really got into this but like there's definitely

Brian Atlasgirls who do off and it's like no it's not going to hurt my chances at all well okay it's definitely going to close the door to some guys and I view like me doing this having one just even if my was totally tame and this is a

Brian Atlascontroversial show even if I was totally tame like family-friendly content there's definitely girls out there that would not want to be involved with that sort of public social media content life they might be more private they don't

Brian Atlaswant that level of attention on them like even like familyfriendly people got stalkers and like all kinds of weird going on so um but add on top of that the fact that this is a

Brian Atlascontroversial show we talk about culture War stuff we talk about politics I have like semi toxic I'm semi toxic or whatever so I don't think I'm that bad but um uh yeah like there's definitely

Brian Atlasgirls that would not want to date me so but I I'm not like I accept that it is what it is um I guess we could say the same thing then yeah the

Brian Atlasdifference it's a little different it's a little different because like I'm not saying what I'm doing is like I'm I'm perfectly insulated from like any bullshittery or

Brian Atlascriticism or like you know me being out there in the public sphere can have you know various I mean there's a lot of Pros to what I do but there's definitely cons

Brian Atlasalso so um but that if a girl doesn't want to date me because I'm out there in the public ether that's no problem whatsoever that's totally fine absolutely yeah so but it's probably

Kenziealso opened up doors too so I suppose you might be even be able to say that about you doing only fans like maybe I personally I think it has just

Brian Atlascuz like open doors dating wise though like I mean I know you're out there so like dudes are like sliding into your PO yeah more so um more so in I mean what I

Kenziewould seek in a guy guys who are in a high position and like um like connected to social media not doing only fans but like only fans management related or

Kenzielike agency related you know I think one they're accepting of that and two like of course you you out of course people in that and people with guys you're

Brian Atlassaying only fans managers who have who stand to profit would like date you of course they would date you because they want to pimp you out no yeah I mean I mean have you dated the guy have

Kenzieyou dated the guy who did of management no I haven't I was just I was just saying like I feel like that would like Open Door not specifically but like anybody like in social media like I feel it open but I feel like you got be as a

Brian Atlasgirl you'd have to be cautious of a guy who 100% who like if you started dating him and he's like let me manage you like are are his intentions that's not are

Kenziehis intentions like he genuinely likes you and maybe or does he want is he wants that money yeah no 100% there's a lot I didn't I wasn't like saying it

Brian Atlaslike but yeah that is something to be careful of um okay so the The Carving thing that shit's crazy don't don't do that guys if if your girl doesn't isn't about

Brian Atlasit move on and find another girl okay hook up C you said hookup culture theories on dating opinions on dating app orange peel Theory have you done that to a dude can you explain what Orange Peel theory is I'm I feel like

Brian AtlasI'm not going to be good at explaining it cuz I feel like I haven't even done it myself but I've just like seen like videos okay fine I'll just explain it okay so the and actually I haven't heard I didn't hear about it until I heard it

Brian Atlasfrom you so I looked it up so basically the orange peel theory is I guess as a this is advice for girls if you have an orange you just like bring it to your boyfriend or guy you're dating and ask

Brian Atlashim to peel it and like the way he responds to that could be an indicator like does he just be like oh okay yeah not a problem babe or if he's like n you can do that what are you talking about like do that on your own so it's

Kenzielike a test almost to see like is this guy going to like help me with like a simple task does he care about me I think it's important to pay attention to those things you know small things like

Kenzielike um like as simple as like opening like a water bottle for you like little things that's why on the first date I make my girl fold my laundry I invite her over I've got the cleaning dat i the laundry going I'm

Brian Atlaslike yo come help me at the laundry really quick see all that let's bring it in we got to fold it oh you f you you're good at folding cool cool cool okay yeah I would do that would you guys on the

Brian Atlasfirst date would you fold laundry yeah I'll help like I'll help I'll I mean it would be dope if she was just like if she was just like I got this that'd be dope but I'll

Salem/DeMayalike are you are you going to cover dinner I've done it before yeah I I I yeah okay if I'm hanging out with a girl yeah let me I thought you said last time I'll get you a burrito but you like you don't like to do do what I thought you

Brian Atlassaid you didn't like to pay for First Dates yeah I don't okay so my position on this has slightly shifted so the the most Optimum thing

Brian Atlasthat you can do when it comes to dating if you want success is to just pay for the first date but you could also just go do something free you could also do something that's affordable if

Brian Atlasyou want but uh if but I tend to only date women that are like really into me so like if I'm dating a girl and like if I met her on a dating

Brian Atlasapp for example and I deleted dating apps a while ago I don't do dating apps like I haven't done dating apps in a very long time uh if I meet her on a dating app and like I can tell like the

Brian Atlasinterest is like medium or whatever and there's a chance that she's um cucumber oh oh yeah yeah yeah I'll talk about the Cucumber I got that um if what was

Brian AtlasI saying oh like if I know she's probably like dating other dudes like n if you're if you're talking to other dudes like I'm not going to pay for you but if but if you're properly

Brian Atlassingle yeah I got it I'll pay for everything but if like no if you're talking to other dudes like we'll go we can go when I will be a provider and pay when you are committed to me if you're

Brian Atlascommitted to me I'm taking care of everything but until that point we're going 50/50 we might not even get to the point we want my that was before now I

Brian Atlasdon't even entertain girls that are like entertaining other dudes like be fully for me and I'll be fully for you quick

Cindy Zangso yeah you I know it's crazy right yeah yeah you can't tell by just one date though what do you mean to like fully

Brian Atlasfor you yeah like maybe one date I I mean maybe the dudes you're dating you aren't like this is the guy that's what I want you're saying the first day you

Brian Atlasgo on yes I want the girl on the first date if she wants a second date I want her to be like I don't want to fence sitter if you didn't if you didn't like

Brian Atlasme move on because I I only like dealing with women that like have a really high level of Interest I've dealt I've done the let me let me like Chase a girl blah blah blah no I don't do that I'm very I

Brian Atlasfeel like I'm very direct I like you you like me let's be together very simple we don't have to do this oh let's go let's be in the situationship for 3 months and be other people at the same time BL no no no no

Brian Atlasbut before I make a girl my girlfriend I'll take her on like probably two or three dates oh I'm not saying you got to be like boyfriend girlfriend but like let's give this an

Brian Atlasopportunity give it like a real shot let's give it an opportunity to flourish because at least for me if I know that you're like again like if you're another dude and trying to date me like

Brian AtlasI don't it's a rap it's let her be exclusive for you on the first date though right if she wants a second date if she first off if she if she's gone on if she's gone on a first date with me

Brian Atlasand she's another dude I don't want her if she's dating other guys like but she hasn't slept with them they have to be gone by the time goodbye I'm I like you know like huh how do you know

Brian Atlasshe's not lying like she's just a terrible I mean if if you're if you're interested as a girl and you want a long-term relationship with me starting it off on a lie is a terrible

Brian Atlasthing to do yeah they do that though well I think truth comes to light regardless but I'm super up I'm I'm super upfront with this when it with girls I'm super upfront about it if you're not on that speed you kind of

Brian Atlaswant to date around that's totally cool I'm not the guy for you go date around but they play those games though so how would you but if you but here's the thing I feel like if a girl really with me and really likes me she's going

Brian Atlasto like she she has to get on my program there is no it's not a negotiation yeah and again if if a girl doesn't want to get on my program that's totally cool

Brian Atlasbut it's my way or the highway the other dudes have to be a rap and some girls they're not really feeling me like that and that's totally cool I get back to the streets you go I get that though or

Madison CawthornI will rescue you from the street I feel like there's a lot I I know I what I put out like whether it's on my social media cuz like obviously first impressions are very rarely First Impressions anymore like you can know a lot about somebody

Madison Cawthornbefore you want a date with them and I'm I I feel like I put out a lot of energy and just presence that like you know it I I don't I don't think I would ever attract a girl that was like

Madison Cawthornwants to play games would like want to go on a date with me it's just like yeah like some girls who were in like were very toxic relationships whatever kind of it it is like there are just some girls who get in those relationships all

Madison Cawthornthe time and other girls who like I've never really been in one cuz like they just put out some like energy where it's like oh you know that girl's probably going to put her foot down if I'm starting to like get real like messed up

Madison Cawthornand so you know I I I don't think a girl that is going to lie and play games is even going to want to go on a date with me I agree with you Madison I think it's

Katherineenergy and it's also communication of what you want and match each other's right needs uh Brian I feel like usually like girls try to play it cool though when they're dating because they don't

Katherinewant to be like the psycho girl that's all like obsessed over the guy right so they try to like play it cool but what would you like recommend for the ladies um if they are actually interested in a

Katherineguy how to kind of like show that to the guy without being so forward and then kind of like being the pursuer kind of being like hey I want to take you seriously yeah I mean I so

Brian AtlasI don't like I don't like women to be like in a sort of like super like I don't want a girl to be like let's mhm

Brian Atlaslike I want a but I don't object to like a girl taking initiative cuz you can do so in a feminine way that's not like you can even approach a guy in like

Brian Atlasa kind of feminine way like I don't like if you're were to approach a guy out you see a guy you like out in public most women don't do this granted but like you can do it in like

Brian Atlasa feminine way um so I don't think Mo I I think most men don't have necessarily an issue with women initiating or approaching so long as you do it in a

Katherineway that's still feminine well I'm not so much talking about initiating it's more once you're already on the date to kind of like communicate it to the guy like hey I want to be about I'm taking the lead she doesn't need to do anything

Madison Cawthornyeah like like she can turn her brain off on a date with me like like she just one just enjoy it all that stuff but then also when I the way I think a girl really shows that she like enjoyed a date or like wants to pursue something

Madison Cawthornyou know is the way she's going to text you afterwards talk to you afterwards you know whatever um but then also just kind of like showing some intentionality like let's say I mention like oh yeah gosh I had like I had a hydrangea die at

Madison Cawthornmy house and like I you know just mentioned something off hand and then all of a sudden like she just a small detail like maybe she just like popped by and you just like notice on your front doorsteps is like a hydrange I don't even know what a hydrange is I

Madison Cawthornjust picked it randomly but just some like little thing where it's like oh like I literally drove all the way to your house to drop something off not even knowing knowing I wouldn't even see you cuz I know you're at work and then like I left just so you know I was

Kenziethinking about you that people nowadays um men and women uh they'll go to other people like does he like me does he like me like he did this like what is this mean she did this what does this mean

Kenziethey tried to like dissect it I think if you can't tell if somebody likes Li you like that's your answer I think if somebody likes you and wants to be with you you will know and I think if you

Madison Cawthorndon't know and they're like oh but like he slept with me but like he's acting like this he like I you know I don't and also like I don't know how like sensually your guys dating is like M mine can be spread out sometimes but

Madison Cawthornlike you know I live where I live and you know like I I don't I have very few girls who like I tell them like I'm not interested or something or like you know we just don't go on on a second dat or something like the word kind of gets around like oh he's like he's not like

Madison Cawthornhere just to like try and sleep with you like he wants to like be with you and all this stuff and then I think it just they they'll be real freaking clear on what the objective is MHM Madison do you

Brian Atlasuse dating apps no based Instagram is a great dating app though it is based um let me see a couple more things here we have uh okay there's the orange peel I have the

Brian AtlasCucumber slicing Theory I don't know if I should mention that uh I have a pick about the penny Theory word actually yeah um for anelise you said I would say one of my biggest hot takes is that it's

Korea/Annavery hard to find people who want genuine relationships in college yeah but do you want a genuine relationship I mean not necessarily but I mean I've I've had friends and stuff who want genuine relationships with guys

Korea/Annaand like they just can't get it like they go up to a guy they think they're cute or a guy will come up to them but just like I feel like college boys are just they're not they're not worried about having genuine relationships

Cindy Zangthey're just worried about something else I don't think that's true I think that's like what you're putting your mindset if you want to date someone there's always going to be someone that's like willing to want to date you

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