US Congressman vs. Feminists (ALMOST KICKED), E-girls, OF Girls! 1 SHOW LEFT! | Dating Talk #128

Date: 2023-12-18

Duration: 7h 12m

Guests

Brian Atlas

RRocky (DT128)>

KKorea (DT128)>

KKenzie (DT128)>

KKatherine (DT128)>

SSalem (DT128)>

DDeMaya (DT128)>

MMadison Cawthorn >

DDubai guest (DT128)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Kenzie(guest)

SPEAKER_05Korea/Anna(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Madison Cawthorn(guest)

SPEAKER_08Rocky(guest)

SPEAKER_09Asia(guest)

SPEAKER_10Katherine(guest)

SPEAKER_12Salem/DeMaya(guest)

SPEAKER_13Cindy Zang(guest)

SPEAKER_14Dubai guest(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMadison Cawthorn introduces himself as former NC-11 Congressman who now does commercial real estate in Naples FL. Youngest elected congressman at the time. Mentions wanting to run again after starting a family.

“hey everyone my name is Madison cauthorne I'm from the great Appalachian Mountains of North Carolina but I now live in Florida in Naples uh I do commercial real estate used to be in politics”

QuoteMadison describes the Senate staffer sex tape scandal: a gay pornographic video filmed in a Senate hearing room. Madison connects it to broader sexual misconduct in Washington DC.

“he went into this area I just saw like you know one screenshot and filmed a a um a homosexual erotic video of just full on sex and in in the US Senate in a hearing room”

QuoteKatherine shares she went to Planned Parenthood while 6 weeks pregnant but chose not to abort when she heard the heartbeat. Baby's father initially pushed for abortion.

“I always told myself if it has a heartbeat I'm not going to do it like if I know has a heartbeat I'm not doing it and when I was there I found out it was she was 6 weeks”

ControversyBrian accuses a female guest of using loaded language ('teenagers') to frame his questions about body count in a bad light. Extended back-and-forth about whether the framing was disingenuous.

“you're trying to be kind of Shifty about it but that's a very loaded way to ask that question”

QuoteDubai guest explains she does OnlyFans to fund her real estate and fashion business goals; has already invested in property. Sets $600K/year passive income as exit threshold. Leaving for Dubai.

“the only reason I do it is to kind of fund what I really want to do which is like go into like fashion and you know have my own business and invest in like property and real estate”

QuoteMadison reveals he discovered a girl he was dating had an OnlyFans through a biometric search using her tattoo. He ended the relationship, saying he cannot be with her as he is an example to young men.

“we have a lot of programs we just used the tattoo she had not been doing only fans for a very long time...instantly popped up her pictures and I was like listen like I personally cannot be with you because I'm an example to young men”

QuoteBrian rates himself 5/10 for looks due to weight gain and dad bod. Madison says he was 9.5 at age 24 (Congress thumbnail) and is now an 8.

“I get myself uh I used to say six but I'm a five because I've gained some weight I've got a dad bod right now I need to lose it”

QuoteMadison explains his sex rule: he will not have sex with a woman unless he is in love with her, and he only falls in love if he believes she would be a good mother.

“I will not have sex with a girl if I'm not in love with her and I will only fall in love with a girl if I'm if she is I think she would be a perfect like a good mom”

OtherRocky and another guest reveal they have chastity keys (for a male 'slave'/simp in a penis cage). Madison repeatedly tries to look away. Extended back-and-forth before they offer to show it.

“chassity keys are like basically cage for a...their penis is an occasion no literally you should show him you should show him yeah you want to see it we have it”

QuoteKenzie shares story of being flown out by an unnamed rapper who had a girlfriend. She decided not to have sex with him; fell asleep while he made moves; he left the hotel room. She checked out the next morning.

“I'm at the airport and I'm on the phone with my friend and he's like he has a girlfriend...I knew I was not going to have sex with him”

QuoteDubai guest describes getting a severe kidney infection while at Ken Carson's studio session. Passed out on the couch with her mouth open while Ken Carson, Lonely, and others were present. Found it extremely embarrassing.

“I literally fall on the ground and throw up everywhere on melro...the guy that I was like there with takes a picture of me on the couch passed out with my mouth wide open in front of all of them”

QuoteMadison explains why some Western men are converting to Islam: frustration that Christianity is perceived as passive/weak while Islam aggressively defends its prophet. Madison says he doesn't condone violence but understands the appeal.

“guys just think that people in the American Christian Church have confused meekness for weakness...in Islam if people attack you Muhammad they'll blow up a freaking office building”

Topics Discussed

Introductions

Guests introduce themselves: Cindy Zang, Rocky, Korea, Kenzie, Katherine, Asia, Anna, Salem, DeMaya, Madison Cawthorn.

Congressional sex tape / Senate scandal

Madison Cawthorn discusses Daily Caller story about a Senate staffer filming an erotic video in a Senate hearing room. Debate about what tax dollars are spent on.

Relationship status round

Each guest shares current relationship status, longest relationship, recent history. Includes Cindy's celibacy, Rocky's polyamory, Korea's Roblox LDR, Katherine's co-parenting situation.

Paternity testing debate

Should mandatory paternity testing at birth be implemented? Most guests support mandatory testing; debate on whether it protects both parents.

OnlyFans and sex work

Extended discussion on OnlyFans as a career: financial goals (Dubai guest sets $600K passive income), parental reactions, future relationship prospects, dad's reaction hypotheticals, content permanence on the internet.

Physical attractiveness and aging

Debate on whether women are more attractive now or in 10 years. Most guests claim they will be more attractive later; Brian and Madison argue peak attractiveness is in early-mid 20s for women. Extended argument over whether self-ratings are delusional.

Tattoos, attractiveness, and male preferences

Discussion on whether tattoos on women increase or decrease attractiveness. Brian and Madison argue most men find heavy tattoos neutral to negative; guests push back.

Dating standards and situationships

Brian explains he wants women to be properly single and fully focused on him from the first date. Madison discusses similar standards. Korea and guests push back on exclusivity demands.

BDSM and kink debate

Rocky discusses BDSM/power dynamics. Brian argues paying men into bankruptcy is exploitative/mental illness. Rocky defends negotiated consent in BDSM. Madison discusses Biblical submission in marriage.

Male submission / women kneeling / relationship power dynamics

Brian says he requires a woman to bow to him as a sign of respect. Rocky and others debate whether this constitutes BDSM. Madison explains Biblical husband-wife leadership model.

Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Cindy: 10, Kenzie: 9, some guests 8, one 7, Salem: 10. Brian rates himself 5. Madison was 9.5 at 24, now 8. Extended debate on whether high self-ratings are delusional.

Sex timing / waiting to have sex

Brian says he has no rule about waiting; willing to have sex on the first date. Madison says he will not have sex unless he is in love and sees the woman as a potential good mother.

Feminist identity

Brian asks each guest if they consider themselves a feminist. Mixed responses.

Orange peel theory / dating tests

Discussion of 'orange peel theory' — asking a partner to peel an orange as a test of care and service. Brian says on first dates he has the girl fold laundry as his own version.

Rapper stories

Kenzie shares story of being flown out by a rapper (unnamed); no sex occurred; he left when she fell asleep. Dubai guest shares kidney infection story at Ken Carson/Lonely studio session. Cindy mentions meeting Snoop Dogg professionally.

Men fleeing to Islam / Middle East

Madison discusses why some Western men are converting to Islam: frustration that Christianity is perceived as weak while Islam is seen as militant in defense of its faith.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasjust want some we're going to be like okay care like a little bit less about looks whereas for a chick like if you just want some dick you want the hottest

Cindy Zangdude possible but I feel like when I have sex with a guy like I can't help but care like we as women are more emotional sure

Brian Atlasright so I can't help but care so like I'm just not that type of woman but oh I'm I'm just saying that I'm not saying all like some women don't like casual sex but if you do search out

Brian Atlascasual sex you're probably going to be like I want the hottest guy POS like if it's a one night stand I want to get with the hottest guy possible for a one night stand you're not going to be like I want a funny guy no you want the funny

Brian Atlasguy for like a relationship whatever but like for a one night stand you you're going to go the funny guy no you're probably going to like prefer the like

Brian Atlasmost physically attractive dude sure I mean if he can get you going I guess but it's pretty different so it's pretty different so um here I'm going to

Cindy Zangfinally get into my what's up I said Bobby Lee I did like multiple videos with Bobby Lee Bobby Lee did you

Cindy Zanghim I love Bobby who's that Bobby Lee who the gay one or the one that the one that has the podcast did so I know the the girl you're talking about but I ALS

Cindy Zangshe actually did a video with Bobby the other the Asian comedian wait why did you bring up Bobby Lee did you date him or something no no

Brian Atlashe's just a comedian I made a lot of like Tik Tok and Instagram videos that went viral of me oh cool yeah Bobby Lee is great that's cool okay I thought you were trying to make the point that you

Brian Atlaslike funny guys so you hooked up with Bobby Lee is that no I'm not saying I'm just saying exactly she didn't hook up with you didn't hook up with him despite him being exceptionally fun

Brian Atlasso obviously physical attractiveness is important and I actually argue women care far more about looks than men do I argue against well for example one night stand perspective I agree with you one even

Brian Atlaswell here's here's my examp like here's my argument for this so of the things that are in women's control and in men's or excuse me that are out of women's control and out of men's control when it comes to physical appearance women care about far more

Brian Atlasmetrics that are totally out of men's control like they have no control over it for example height men can't control their height a lot of women care about height if the guy's balding a lot of women would prefer to dat a guy with a

Brian Atlasfull head of hair especially certainly if they're younger but some guys start balding in their early 20s even in their teens um penis size out of a man's

Cindy Zangcontrol a lot of women care about that so I mean there's a lot of things that women care about when it comes to looks that are totally out of dude's control whereas for men should get surgery now

Kenziethough to increase your height like people be getting surgery to increase their height I don't think men should be doing that that regardless though I still think men care more about appearance yeah yeah like

Kenzieyou're right like no you can't control you're high if you're balding you're balding like you can't do anything about it but I would say women care more about things that aren't physical how I think

Kenzieguys do I am 5 foot do you have a bare minimum height no you'll date a guy who's 5'1 my last boyfriend was I think like on the shorter side me too I didn't

Kenziecare and I thought that's F that's fun but I would argue most women prefer a guy who's like my only preference is that he was T he's taller than me but that's not really hard for me cuz I'm short sure

Brian Atlasbut you wouldn't date a guy who's shorter than you it sounds like granted most men are probably most men are probably taller than you so but I don't have a set height okay

Brian AtlasI would argue though most women like prefer taller guys in fact they they very much typically like think guys shorter girls I don't think the thing the difference is though between men and

Kenziewomen is height typically is never going to be a deal breaker for a guy I think like they might have a preference they might have a preference I think a lot of guys have that preference and I think a lot of guys

Kenzielike hate that idea that of a woman being taller than them I've seen I've also seen a lot on social media like tall girls coming out talking about that and it's I mean I would argue that men

Brian Atlasnot wanting to date a taller woman that's probably more so because they know that taller women don't want to date shorter guys well I guess you could say it goes so they've had experiences I

Brian Atlasthink it I've had experiences where I've like for some magical reason if the girl like I'm 6' one mind you so like I'll encounter a girl who's 6'2 63 even

Brian Atlasa girl who's 6 feet she's like Brian I'd rather a guy who's 6 3 64 65 like so I think it granted I I there are probably guys out there that are probably insecure about their height and

Brian Atlasthat can manifest manifest itself negatively in a relationship but I would argue typically that's going to fall on the woman the woman's going to have an issue with it therefore it's going to be uh it it's just going to be a problem on

Madison Cawthornher end so okay yeah the hardest part for me if I'm dating a girl over 6 foot cuz I used to be 63 love to swing dance still enjoy swing dance in a wheelchair but if I go for a dip and she's like over six it's really hard for me to get my hand all the way on her head so

Madison Cawthornthat's that's my biggest issue there but I I I think that one thing like we're when're we're talking about if girls like guys based on their looks or not I think that like in the sexual Marketplace and I'm talking when I say that I'm talking about the dating

Madison CawthornMarketplace and everything I think that it really comes down to a lot of women are judged by basically like how far they fall off the top of the mountain which basically is saying that like you know and this kind of what we were talking about like guys prefer girls

Madison Cawthornthat are like you know younger and have been with like less guys for whatever reason I think it's just kind of genetically designed and us like we can rip on why that is but you know I think there's some valid reasons for it and this is why girls who are like normally

Madison Cawthornlike you know in their young 20s or mid 20s are way more attractive than women who are like in their 40s whereas guys women will date older guys all the time I mean it happens all the time guys are judged by how much they climb the

Madison Cawthornmountain like when a guy is 19 years old he is the least attractive to the majority of women but if a guy is like at 33 years old he has built like a business business Empire he is like solidly built physically he is like got

Madison Cawthorna solid head on his shoulders he had to build those things whereas a woman's normally born with the attributes that make her the greatest aside from personality that has to be developed and all those things and so I I yeah I think guys are judged and in how when girls

Madison Cawthornare like thinking about who they want to marry by how far they climb up that mountain and they get so caught up when they're in their young 20s and they're getting gassed up by everybody they just being chasing after like I want the hottest guy in the entire world but then when it comes time to get married

Madison Cawthornthey're like yeah that guy was like a jock in high school or he played college football but now you know he's just you know does like a something like you know not not a he he hasn't built himself now he's got like a drug addiction and a

Madison Cawthornporn addiction those aren't the people you want to marry you want the guy who has a solid Faith built and wants to create a family and provide and protect them that's and so yeah I those are hard to find though it is I I think girls are

Madison Cawthornreally interested in those kind of qualities more so than what they're physically attracted to and that's where they get so up when they're they are just chasing like the hottest guy they can find for clout or for whatever cuz they want to look good on

Kenziean Instagram picture but it's just not going to pay off in the long run yeah I mean I think a lot of girls that are seeking longterm long-term commitment um aren't also aren't just chasing after looks yeah you know I think there's

Cindy Zangbigger things and I think people are aware of that sorry sorry oh go ahead I also feel like guys that are typically physically more attractive like you like

Cindy Zanglike um when you look at their Instagram you're like yeah this guy's they're they can also be lowkey gay at the same time like they much about like you know what I mean

Kenzielike yeah like ly a little too obsessed with them themselves find out perfect loafers and I can't like I honestly prefer a guy that like isn't I don't

Kenzieknow why I kind of like a guy who's like a little bit ugly yeah low key just a little bit a little bit yeah and I was at a restaurant the other day and I

Kenziethought the server was like really hot and he was gay so oh rip RP is in the chat for uh for her it's the water man the turning the frogs

Madison CawthornG now starting to make the humans gay ridiculous the water is turning the frogs gay and now it's turning us gay oh okay there you have it all gay here I this is so unrelated but it's came up

Brian Atlasin the previous uh podcast so I want to touch on it going around the table starting with Cindy generally speaking are men stronger than women physically I

Brian Atlashate this question men are stronger physically no opinion on that but wait hold on yeah completing the fifth on that one you don't have can I hold on

Brian Atlasyou don't have an opinion on that no what do you mean I don't have an opinion how do you you don't have an opinion what do you what do you think I don't have an opinion you don't want to answer

Brian Atlasthe question I don't have an opinion is that okay what do you mean you I well is it is it is it that you don't want to share your opinion no she just doesn't

Brian Atlasknow the statistics and like she doesn't what do you mean the statistics like generally speaking are men physically stronger than women no opinion you don't have an opinion no so you let me ask you

Brian Atlasa question then do you think men and women are of equal strength generally speaking no opinion are you just being bad faith intentionally no I think she just you

Brian Atlasdon't like my answer that's that's all would I it's well you haven't given me you haven't given me an answer so there's not really room for me to like or dislike your answer is the is the is the reason you're wanting to plead the

Madison Cawthornfifth because you're afraid of kind of the cultural backlash of like oh well people think that everybody can be just as strong as everybody it's not true I was just curious no okay what's your reason what's your reason for Bing no

Dubai guestopinion no op are you just going to answer that to every question no opin no I don't have an opinion on this topic thank you next what it's just this topic she just doesn't really have an opinion on this topic I think you do have an

Brian Atlasopinion you just don't want to share it my God that there's a different not everything is that deep though I don't think you know why you how about you let her speak for herself oh I was going to say no opinion thank

Brian Atlasyou I don't have an opinion on the topic I mean I don't think that's a good faith answer though I think you do have an opinion

Brian Atlasyou just don't want to share it okay my opinion is debatable and it depends and that's my only opinion no but it we're removing it depends from the

Brian Atlasconversation because the question is generally speaking are men physically stronger than women yeah I have no opinion on that thank you but you just said it depends yeah on what on

Brian Atlaseverybody else's opinion so it it depends on everybody else's opinion I mean you're just kind of being bad faith here so I feel like if I ask you other questions you're just going to ask other question here okay I'll ask

Brian AtlasI'll ask I will come back to the strength thing though um do you think and I'll start with you why not do you think that you can be sexist against men oh yeah okay do you think you can be

Brian Atlasracist against white people absolutely okay all right I'm surprised that you I'm a little surprised that you engaged on that but not the strength

Rockyconversation anybody can be racist at any time so that's again it's it's more uh it's there's no black and white there yeah you had a visual reaction of

Brian Atlasthat I'm surprised that the strength one was the okay we'll come back to the strength one really quick why that would be a question on a dating podcast if you could because I'll tell you why I'll tell you why I mean I can tell you why

Brian Atlasbecause for example with the sexist thing uh your views on men can certainly influence how you perceive men how you engage with men in romantic relationships so for example if you hold

Brian Atlascertain positions when it comes to that question that might certainly dictate how you treat men how you view men and that's incredibly important and obviously like uh your shared values that sort of thing

Brian Atlasso we can go around the table on that though um well first let's do the strength one do you think generally speaking are men stronger than

Background guestwomen yeah yes yes yes yes yes yes Madison do you want a million per okay not even close

Brian Atlasum going around the table on can you be sexist towards men yes she said

Background guestyes um yeah yeah yes yes yes yes

Brian Atlasyes absolutely yeah absolutely can you be racist against white people yes yeah um no

Madison Cawthorncomment so like my my whole my whole thing on these is I think anytime there's an IST or an ism attached to anything it just means that you're treating a certain person based on your

Madison Cawthornprevious engagements with people that match that category so if you're like oh let's say that you were abused by almost like 80% of the men that you've been around your entire life and then like you're going to have a pattern

Madison Cawthornrecognition where you're like wait a minute I feel in danger cuz a man just walked in the room and 80% of the time I see a man he's going to hit me and so then that would be that would then make you like and it's not saying that it's wrong I'm not saying that that that

Madison Cawthornusing statistics is wrong but it's it would then make you like oh if I any man I see I'm going to judge based on other men and so sorry no please go ahead but can I give an

Dubai guestexample let's say like a white person goes to like the Middle East or China right and it's like a whole like a race the main race would be if you go to

Dubai guestChina Chinese people correct and a white person goes there and the Chinese people look at the white person they're like oh like you know those people are racially profiling that white person

Korea/Annathat's not of their race wouldn't that be being racist I'm going to rip one real quick no it's like Prejudice Prejudice like discriminatory is like a

Korea/Annabetter word for it rather than racist cuz those people could not necessarily I feel like we should go around the table and get everybody's answer on this before we go into this so well you I

Korea/Annajust said no no comment I think that's a no you I'm assuming that's a yeah that's why we were get it's a no comment cuz I I think that's a I don't want you don't want to what get into it yeah I don't you don't want the black Square people

Korea/Annato come after you no I'm just I'm like I I love everybody I I don't really trip about that because you treat everyone based on the content of their character versus others yes okay okay what about

Brian Atlasyou yes uh yes you can what he just said I agree so wait yes you can be racist against white

Asiapeople it's it depends like oh like I I don't really know how to like say it it's just

Brian Atlasum why does it have to just be white people why why we can you be racist no you can be you can be racist against any race but can you

Korea/Annabe racist against white people the question is because a lot of our intellectuals in the country trying to trick us right there's no trick it ain't a trick we

Salem/DeMayablack we can't I wouldn't like I know how to answer it for you go ahead put in so I know she doesn't she's not racist okay so stop

Salem/DeMayajust kiding just kiding it just depends on the person so it's not just like oh I'm just racist towards white people it's the person so if you act like you know something yes there's racist out

Brian Atlasthere sure you what I'm saying but okay let me ask you a question can you be racist against black people like can anybody be racist against black people yes okay so can you be racist against white

Madison Cawthornpeople I don't no comment again being racist being any ISM anything anything about that is whenever you're treating someone not based on the content of their personal character but rather a

Asiageneralization of that Community basically like right you wouldn't do that but it Poss like approached me on some racist like stuff which is one of the reasons I love this country

Madison CawthornI'm I'm give me give me like give me like two seconds because like what you're talking about like when you go to like the UAE or when you go to China or any of these places you can go there if you're like a a high net worth person or whatever you can move there they will

Madison Cawthornaccept you as a citizen any of these things but in if you're in China and you are don't have a lineage of like nine generations of being in China and speak fluent mandrin you will never be Chinese in their eyes whereas if you come to my

Madison Cawthorncountry and you say the Pledge of Allegiance that you stand under our flag that you will fight for our country and that you believe in our people above all else aside from God then you're an American that's why I love this country

Madison Cawthornso much it's just like I will accept freaking everybody if they my country and they and they love our Western values that is just what I love about it it's amazing like my one our greatest

Madison Cawthornfreaking Congressman in the United States Congress right now his name Byron Donalds he's a black guy he is freaking amazing he is going to be president of the United States he's a hardcore conservative he is just a freaking

Madison Cawthornbadass and the reason that he's a badass is because he doesn't Define things by race he doesn't cut things in all these things where it it's it's a trap that the Elites in this country have tried to do because people are so much easier to

Madison Cawthorncontrol when they're fighting against each other not unified as a people if we all just came together and said you know what I'm going to judge you based on how what I know about you not on the fact that you're Asian I know a lot of people have tattoos on their chest I'm not going to judge you based on people I

Madison Cawthornknow have tattoos on their chest I'm going to judge you based on the content of your character that's not saying that you can't use statistics to your advantage if you're in a dangerous situation or anything like that that's just saying that in this country if you love this country and you take the pledge of allegiance to my country and

Madison Cawthornyou are a citizen I will defend you with my Last Breath regardless of who you are what you worship or anything I will die for you because you're an American but I don't think every American is that way

Dubai guestthough no that that's the problem our country but then also that beautiful what I was going to say is I feel like a lot of places outside of America have a very different view because I feel like

Dubai guestAmerica is a predominantly white you know word 37% I'm not going to lie I wouldn't live any other country boom girl give me freaking

Brian Atlasair five oh there we go reach was good on that okay so let me finally get into some of my pre-show notes Here Cindy actually do we have two tweets from Cindy let's do Cindy's two tweets here

Madison Cawthornshe's got two tweets Cindy I like so so much I hope this isn't GNA just desty rip I was Wonder oh bigger bigger bigger bigger bigger

Brian Atlasbigger is that what she says in the tweets Cindy my guilty my guilty pleasure is watching men do stuff for [Music] period what does that what does it mean

Cindy Zangto for men to do things for you uh talking about the hose no I'm not talking like the hoes don't do things for you they my friends my me my guy

Cindy Zangfriends over here so what what does that mean what does that look like I'm just appreciating like men in general like that you know like my security guard he

Brian Atlashelps me all the time your security guarden yeah my security guard that did you pay him um he he gets paid by the hour Oh I thought you about to say with

Cindy Zanglike or something you you pay him no no no out there I'm just that's yeah I love men but what's so

Brian Atlascool about that oh go ahead R it what the Tweet said you like watching men do things for you so I assume they're like doing things for free like they're like taking you on trips they're getting you gifts they're acts of service type of

Cindy Zangyeah I would love that I would love that too you know if you want to like send me stuff no so anyways I'm going to make I'm going to make your Tweet so I'm

Madison Cawthorngoing to make your Tweet so much better okay um you pull it back oppos opposite direction there we go um so anyways like in my household

Madison Cawthornthere were extraordinarily defined gender roles in my household like my brother my dad and I I we have a four person family like my mom did like all of like you know the the stuff that you would normally

Madison Cawthornattribute to like what women did like the 1950s like my mom is like the definition of a menist she's awesome but like my mom freaking loves sitting there and being like like I provide for my the men in my household and yeah they mow my

Madison Cawthorngrass they will plant any tree I want if I want a couch picked up and set on top of its side my sons will do that cuz I race freaking Warriors and so anyways that tweet could be really cool if it's just that you like watching men do stuff for you because they're simps and

Kenziethey're just like betas that's probably not as as wholesome but anyways we're just going to read it in the best I think it's coming from the same place though no definitely coming from the same place yeah it's the um like

Brian Atlasintention behind it I think I don't think I me it's not like tweet but maybe if she's your girlfriend but if she ain't your girl you shouldn't be doing that for a chick so and it

Brian Atlassounds like and it sounds like you like men that do things for you that you're not dating is kind of what I'm pulling from that tweet so simps basically so my public service

Brian Atlasannouncement is don't be a s don't be doing for girls you're not dating hello yeah and remember you're always it's always good to be kind it's always good to just you know do things because

Brian Atlasyou want to do it with no don't be guys don't be simping for these chicks like we had a chick a previous show who said oh I was at Chipotle and the guy behind me paid for my Chipotle

Brian Atlasand that was it bro that's some simp don't be doing weird that's tricking dude he's a trick he's like tricking on these girls hell no y'all don't though y'all don't be oh

Cindy Zanglook at that guy let me just go pay for his chipot women in the house we love women like we do I mean I will say like if I saw like and if I saw a girl that

Madison Cawthornmatched kind of what I said that I I I like don't do it and she was ahead don't do it m okay all right I'm not but if I saw a girl ahead of me in Chipotle and I want an opportunity to talk to her and like I mean it's the

Madison Cawthornsame thing she would do at a bar be like Oh that girl drinks on me and then like you have an opportunity to talk to her but like you know obviously if you're if you're just being manipulated and dominated by a girl to just your reputation currency and these women that

Madison Cawthornyou think that most of us think are destroying the west and destroying our culture are only having influence because we give it to them I think it's an I think you should be I think you

Brian Atlasshould be nice to your girl you should do nice things for your girl until she's your girl if she's not your girl and until she's your girl you don't get that

Katherinekind of nice treatment I agree like you don't get no you don't buy some random chick I also feel like um for me like men do lose a little bit of their value when they act like that cuz then

Madison Cawthornit just makes me think like how many other girls do you act like this for he's a s he's a trick he's a sucker it's just very I don't know one of my favorite one of my favorite girlfriends of all time I was trying to get her to date me like you know we were like we

Madison Cawthornhad been on like two or three dates and she just kept talking about this freaking Chicken Coop she wanted to build and so I just chicken Co yeah so I just like I popped by and built a freaking chicken ceop next thing I know she's my girlfriend the next day it was great see you're a good that was the

Brian Atlasthat was like the The Tipping Point she was like she wasn't sure about you and then you built her a chicken cop and then she was like I guess I'll that's that act of service it's a love language

Brian Atlasis you're a real man okay okay but do not to each their own to each their own medicine but do not just do it for girls who are just keeping you in the friend zone not I personally would not build a

Brian Atlaschicken cop for a woman on a third date to each their own if you want as a guy if you want to do that if you go for it I think it's maybe a little ill advice if it's a girl that

Kenzielike you're trying to date and you're trying to make like your wife I think you would do acts of service for her not that me personally not that early on okay maybe 3 years in well when do you

Brian Atlaswant her to bow to you what date is that oh immediately she's got to Bow immediately of course I got you yeah the bow has to be boom

Madison Cawthornimmediate for Chipotle got to wait out yeah $20 yeah Chipotle is absurdly expensive too like I mean those that's like three meals in

Cindy Zanglike one thing but if you get that um the the app and get the discount and stuff or just take the door Dash take the door dash off the shelf yeah

Cindy Zanglike like Chipotle Chipotle Cindy hold on can you pull the mic closer to you

Brian Atlasplease yep cool uh what you what kind of content do you make on o is it solo boy girl girl girl content I make

Cindy Zangsolo and you don't do boy girl girl girl I said more solo and more boy girl boy boy girl I have done boy girl

Brian Atlasbefore on your own event girl girl I've done I've done girl girl content I'm open to everything Nick can you pull up her in Cindy's Instagram

Brian Atlasplease um so I'm noticing you you're wearing a cross oh not too

Brian Atlasmuch I'm noticing I am wearing cross you're wearing a cross yes are you do you consider yourself a Christian I believe in God God I believe in Jesus

Cindy ZangChrist I mean the cross is a Christian symbol yeah I don't go to I don't go to like church every Sunday but I pray

Brian Atlasalmost like Nick do you have it this is your Instagram Haram um so you have so in addition to you wearing the cross you

Brian Atlashave God first and then right below God first you we're not going to click on that link you have your website which

Brian Atlaslinks to your only fans where you do pornographic where you do pornographic yes but it also links to that's your link tree or whatever where it links to

Brian Atlasyour only fans where you do solo nude content boy girl content girl girl content you're wearing a cross um make that make sense for me

Cindy Zangit's gone so I am very grateful and blessed that God gave me the POS the position to do what I do right now and that is where I'm going to leave it wait

Brian Atlasjust a clarifying question God put you can you repeat that for me one more time yeah I said I'm

Cindy Zangvery blessed that God gave me this position God what position is that to everything that like to do porn um I don't do like I don't do that on my ol

Cindy Zangyou said you do solo boy girl girl girl content okay but you have to find out to see what kind of content that

Cindy Zangis with a girl and a guy so are you have to subscribe and talk to me and get to know me you mean

Cindy Zangtalk to your typer but um no it's like one-on-one chats I actually talk to you personally I'm sure um

Brian Atlasso so you do you I mean do you do do adult content with you do do nude content that's what it

Brian Atlassounds like correct yes okay so you're saying that God put you in the position to do nud content solo with

Cindy Zangother women and with other men is that correct no God can me like okay straight into the mic so yes like I don't know how to like I'm

Kenziejust grateful that I'm a more than that to her yeah it can be more than just a video or just a picture it's like you know

Brian Atlasfinancially or something that she likes to do okay but so you're wearing a cross do you let me ask you a question um do you wear your

Brian Atlascross while you're engaging in producing porn or only fans content have you I always wear my cross you always wear your cross I take it off

Brian Atlasso you wear yes you wear it while you're engaging in porn and only fans content yes when I make my content I am wearing my cross sure and so do you

Brian Atlasthink it sounds like do you think that God approves of you doing porn basically yeah it's not hurting anybody I do it very safely do do you think God

Brian Atlaswants wants you making porn God said that he loves everyone and okay and what they do so okay I I have a

Brian Atlasquestion if God wants you to be a porn star or do only fans or make nude content what do you think Satan

Brian Atlaswants I don't like talking about that that person you don't like talking about Satan what but okay what if if you're saying that God has put you in this

Brian Atlasposition to do only Fant to do porn if he wants you to be doing that what do you think Satan

Brian Atlaswants he wants me to stop doing what I do I guess what Satan wants you to not do

Madison Cawthornporn and God wants you to do porn if I have do I have that right yeah all right so go ahead go ahead I can't I can't I I I I'm going to I'm going to bring up into few so one I'm

Madison Cawthorngoing to go and clarify some things because I'm sure we're going to get a few things but said you well God says do not judge the full verse is do not judge lest ye be judged and so that's saying like you know just if you're judging

Madison Cawthornsomeone you're also inviting that onto yourself one if you're afraid to talk about Satan I question if you're actually a Christian because we are sealed into no I I I've heard that

Madison Cawthornbefore like it's not bad to talk about him but I also just don't like to to talk there there is a point there there is a verse to focus on what is good and

Madison Cawthornpure and right there's also of where we can go and do combat with evil forces and it's by the word of Our Testimony by the faith that we show in God and just the ability that we have our sealed

Madison Cawthornentities and we can experience spiritual oppression but we can never experience spiritual possession like when I walk into a place where they say it's haunted I'm like I am a Son of God you will flee

Madison Cawthornfrom me but the biggest thing that I have an issue with is when you're saying you're a Christian there's a verse where it says do not take the lord's name in vain a lot of people that's why people say oh like like a bunch of Christian

Madison Cawthorngirls will type in om gosh and because they don't want to be considered they saying OMG it's not necessarily saying don't say oh my God it's saying do not take your like when you say that you're a Christian do not take that in vain

Madison Cawthornbecause that has a lot of weight because you're a representation of the of that you're not supposed to lead people down into a path of Temptation I am not saying I'm I'm a perfect Christian like I am chief among Sinners but there is a

Madison Cawthornvery big difference of like oh I fail mess up every once in a while like if I grabbed a cigarette and smoked it right now I smoked a cigarette I'm not a smoker if I bought a carton of cigarettes and intended to smoke them

Madison Cawthornfor weeks then I'm a smoker if you are let's say that you're in and again like I have a lot of really great gay friends I think they're there's there's some great people like if you are marrying a

Madison Cawthornguy and you're a guy you're living in a and you're living in open Defiance to God and you're choosing to do that for an extended period of time that is a mortal sin if you were choosing to live

Madison Cawthornin promiscuity which is a sin and like you're literally have a account on only fans and you have a link to it you're telling people to go to it intending to post more stuff you are then continuing

Madison Cawthornto live in sin and it is just it's a mockery to God it's taking his name in vain to wear his cross while you're committing these acts of sin and again I I know that I am a sinner like like just

Madison Cawthornlike Paul says I'm Chief among sers I mess up all the time but when I mess up I literally try and go and fix that intern away from that when you repent from sin repent the definition of the word is turning and going the opposite direction and so I just question how you

Cindy Zangcan be a Christian and produce that kind of content that destroys young but you don't know what kind of content unless you subscribe right but but they're saying can't believe she's using this as

Brian Atlasa sales pitch to watch go sub you could tell us you could just be straightforward and just be like yeah I do nude content you know they're probably playing yatsi on there they're probably playing I mean you

Cindy Zangdon't even have to go to your only fans you could just look at your Instagram why don't you tell us what kind of content you make on o sure I said solo and just lingerie sexy like all the behind the scenes content from all the

Cindy Zangphoto shoots that I've done and much more have you had sex with a man on camera no I actually have not but you said you do boy girl content that's exactly where I'm where I what I said like you have to what about like well

Brian Atlaswhy don't you just be precise in what you're telling us I'm not going to go sub to your only fans right now like subcribe to my page would they still get to see the content you're not like by

Brian Atlassaying by the way guys this is what's on my page I know I make what I make boy girl content so they would have to subscribe to see like the desp but you you telling us what that

Madison Cawthornis you're not like releasing the photos and videos um we are dressed very sexy and E even that and I know that like we take it to the extremes of this

Madison Cawthornstuff and guys I want you all to know I know I'm speaking prettyy passionately about this I love all of you guys like I I want you to know that as a Christian I love all you guys but I detest sin I'm I'm not call people are like oh you're not supposed to judge you're supposed to

Madison Cawthornbe quiet and everything that is that is not the case as a Christian you are supposed to detest idolatry you're supposed to detest the things that are go against God because it's destroying

Madison Cawthornthe world there are clear on just like it'll take two seconds there are clear studies where it shows the damage that whether it's porn or whether it's just looking lots of sexy pictures all kinds of stuff the way it warps and damages

Cindy Zangthe minds of young men okay but I want to say that my content isn't porn though it's just content of me people are just obsessed with me can you can you just they want more cont what kind of content

Cindy Zangyou do are you nude in any of your content I am nude in some part in some content are the guys ever nude in any of the

Dubai guestcontent uh I don't sell those content but I used to I mean if you did they're up right now but he's saying basically even if there was one or two

Dubai guestpictures of you n like that or even just sexy pictures like of you and lingerie that's what they're kind of like saying is what they're saying is you know like going against and again I'm

Cindy Zangnot trying to be mean to you I care about your girl in laerie is very sinful if it's not with your husband yeah but I know it's the culture I have to disagree I still think that God will

Madison Cawthornstill love you and like guarantee God loves you but he wants your soul and he will fight for it and even if he like my ey was so arrogant I was literally like a Demi God I was 6 foot three incredibly strong I had a brain like you couldn't

Madison Cawthornimagine and God literally allowed my back to be broken and it has humbled me more than anything and I would love if you would just repent and be obedient to God rather than him having to bring some

Madison Cawthornkind of pain into your life that draws you closer to him cuz it's not fun me and an are going to go to church I do Follow by God though we are okay and it's not just only fans I can't reason with you I understand and I want

Madison Cawthornyou to know I love you and I want you to be in great relationship with God because even though he says that he loves everyone understand that like when it says the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom imagine if someone did

Madison Cawthornsomething terrible to us like murdered my friend here if someone murdered him I would I'm not murdering right watch out if anybody murders me Madison is coming meeting up with anybody I know I

Madison Cawthornknow I'm not give just two seconds give me two seconds I would like make that person suffer rather than just giving him an instant death I really would because that like that's but like think

Madison Cawthornof how how how aggressive God is he will put you in hell for eternity I might hurt the guy for like 20 minutes he will put you in hell for well you know I don't know you that well okay well okay

Madison CawthornI have no control of what the person that's buying my content going to do putting out I want your soul to be in heaven with me we get to live forever in new bodies and have new jobs every

Madison Cawthornsingle day and the only way you're going to do that is if you repent and Kneel To God because doing only fans content I promise is a sin and and I'm not saying it's not redeemable I'm not saying

Brian Atlasyou're not going to heaven I'm just saying it is God detests it any that's all I'm going to say I can't I I realiz I can't if you were like if you were an atheist I think we probably wouldn't I wouldn't i' be yeah but like it's I

Brian Atlasthink where we're approaching this from is like it's kind of contradictory to be like okay like I'm going to wear a cross and then I'm in your bio it's almost like blaspheming to the point of like if

Brian Atlasyou're wearing the cross in your pornographic content and in your Instagram bio you say God first and then there's a link directly below it linking

Brian Atlasto your link tree or whatever that links to your only fans that's like kind of super contradictory so that's the angle where we're approaching that as if you're an

Brian Atlasatheist and you're like yeah I do porn it's like okay we get it but it's like it's so contradictory and I almost wonder if it's a stick to get like be controversial and get attention but like can you pull up the

Brian AtlasInstagram once more like it's literally we're not exaggerating it's literally God first and then Cindy zen.com like her links to her only fans scroll down a little bit scroll down on her

Brian Atlasprofile scroll down on her profile I also have play you got the the cross there there's you and Snoop there's Snoop Dog Jesus this is Haram and how many how many followers do you

Madison Cawthornhave total yeah uh 500,000 that's incredible do I I know how hard that is to build you have so much influence and you could be there could be young girls who look up to you

Madison Cawthornspecifically maybe they come from an atheist household and they're just trying to figure out God like oh wait a minute this girl is a Christian I look up her she's really pretty I want to look like her when I get older I want to be like oh but she can be a Christian

Madison Cawthornand do this boom I found my path and I just that's that's the reason I'm being so aggressive on it that's the only reason and because I care about your soul and that with that I'm done and you're great super beautiful we all love you and God loves you and he wants you

Brian Atlasto spend eternity with him that is true I take the red pill um I do want to ask you again so if God wants you to be a porn star to do porn

Brian Atlasto do only fans what do you think Satan wants I have no comment over that okay that's a Checkmate okay check that's that's a

Madison Cawthornreally haral difficult one to answer so I still think that like you're do you think you're a Godly woman yes even when you're doing pornographic this this has such serious

Madison Cawthornheaviness weight let's not let's not let's not beat cry let's move on we want to come to Christ not just feel like we I'll just finish on this okay there's so

Brian Atlasgo and sin no more and also Jesus says if you love me keep my commandments so it's just very

Cindy Zangcontradictory like pornography creates lust lust is one of the seven deadly sins seventh commandment you shall not commit adultery lusting is equivalent to adultery talk to them and we actually

Cindy Zanghave like real conversation you talk who to the people that subscribed my only fans you mean you're diper does no I actually do on my own that's cat okay no it doesn't matter though but that's not

Brian Atlaseven what you're saying well I mean don't you don't want to get me started on the typer don't get me started on typer love you guys no you're great we're we're done wait we're done we're done attacking you you're you're

Brian Atlassaying that you have religious conversations about Jesus with your in your only fan subscribers they never okay if we want to talk about God we can

Madison Cawthorntalk about God but I I I'm just ask let's let's let's move

Brian Atlas[Music] on this isn't about so reverting Cindy I think do you want me to bow down

Brian Atlasfor you yes I will save you Cindy I will fix you no you will not God will you are going to abandon your degenerate hedonistic life in Los Angeles you're going to delete your only fans you're

Brian Atlasgoing to get yourself set up on a Farmstead here in Santa Barbara and yes you will bow for me okay and you're going to delete your Instagram Tik Tok only fans Etc oh okay so then I'll be

Cindy Zanghomeless no all the money all the money you will take care of you you just have to bow to all the money you've ACR you will direct into my would you take care

Cindy Zangof I feel like I do want to have my own thing you know like I want to like have I want to be able to have my own

Cindy Zangbusiness I want to have like things that I'm ambitious about and not rely on a man to like fully like always take care of me okay cool you can pay for the first date I guess okay cool and I'm not

Cindy Zangsaying like you should pay for the first date you should oh as a man that's taking on a girl on a date first date yes question for the panel on that do you think as a man a man should pay for

Asiathe first date perod going around the table yeah yes into the mic please yes yes yes thank you I think it depends who

Asiainitiated the date first have you ever asked a guy out um um no I wasn't dating exactly but I wasn't dating like throughout my high school years depends on who asks but I never ask but even

Asiaeven when they did ask me on a date I would always say I will go half with you that's fair um yes okay always go ahead yes the guy should pay definitely so

Brian Atlasthose of just so those of you who have only fans if your position is yes the guy should pay for a first date because that's traditional so too then should it be the case

Brian Atlasthat a woman should not be doing porn and have only fans if we're talking about should what does do first dat but you have a very traditional view of men's gender roles they know that before

Brian Atlasthey go on a date with me so if they choose to go on that date with me but y'all are saying men should adhere to this traditional gender role of being chivalrous and being gentleman it's not traditional to be popping your

Kenzieand doing all this extra and having only fans and doing porn don't go on a date with a girl pops are you don't right but you're it's it's a contradict it's you know what I mean like obviously there's going to be no I

Brian Atlasagree if as a guy I agree with you as a guy if you don't want to date an only fans girl don't date an only fans girl but the contradiction introduces itself because if you as an only fans girl

Brian Atlaswants a guy to be traditional and adhere to his traditional gender rules the reality is you're not a traditional woman s there's going to be guys that yeah they're still going are going to do that and that's fine if they want to do

Brian Atlasthat they're going to do that and if they don't want to do that don't do that like it's not that that's that's totally cool but it's just a contradiction like you guys want traditional treatment but you don't want to be traditional

Brian Atlaswomen nobody TR I know it is tradition yes it is if if your expectation is the guy should pay for the first date that's a man being a provider that's him being in his tradition gend that's one instance yeah sure I know it's not it's

Kenzienot like I don't think it correlates because paying on a first date is one thing that's like a small thing with a set intention behind it okay being on only fans is like that's not traditional bger I know but it's a bigger part of your life so it's it's kind of

Kenzieincomparable in my it is a very big part of your life you're right right yeah okay it's not like just like one instance one instance would be a guy paying for a I don't know I don't think it's you guys you guys should actually

Brian Atlasbe in line with your more Progressive values if you think it's like fine to do only fans and do porn then you should be more open to dating a progressive dude that wants to go 5050 but n you want

Kenziethat traditional I agree with you and I'm I agree you're not attracted to that though you're not attracted to that though first date first date I think after the first date it's different but I think first date you should n first

Madison Cawthorndate N I think I'm just saying if the guy like unless there's like a time restraint and he can't but if the guy's not picking you up and he's not buying your dinner every single time that guy exactly that's all I'm saying but

Madison Cawthornbut also but the only way that you're going to get a guy like that like a good Southern Man true is I I really I just I I I've got a lot of really like my friend group is stacked like all my boys

Madison Cawthornare awesome they're freaking Jack they're about their business they believe in God they're all Southern like we all hate the government it's amazing but like none of us not a single one of us and I'm not again I as a

Madison CawthornChristian love all you guys not a single one of us would date an only fans girl we wouldn't even consider it that's fine I still think there my a traditional guy maybe I'm not from the West Coast I don't know what it's like over here so you're maybe you're

Brian Atlasright I mean I'm not either I'm from the East Coast doing porn is one of the least traditional things that you can do as a woman so you should be EXT there should be extra room for you dealing

Brian Atlaswith like soy boy Progressive types y'all should be dating like soy boy Progressive Lefty dudes want to go 5050

Dubai guestwant to geted you want us to be on that but the truth is is there are men out there that are traditional and

Dubai guestsuccessful and really good guys who who have a lot going for them and are maybe religious that still would date a girl

Dubai guestwho does only fans so maybe a lot of a lot of want it a certain way but truth is it's not always because because

Brian Atlaspaying for the first date is the most Optimum minmax thing you can do to is it though is like because like maximum no no no no you're misunderstanding what

Brian AtlasI'm saying if okay I think paying for the first date is in terms of like the option within that specific scenario like paying for the first date for a girl will never it's never going

Brian Atlasto hurt your chances with a girl but not paying for it might hurt your chances so it's the most Optimum move that you can make if you're if we're looking at this like a chess game it's the most Optimum

Kenziemove when it comes to if you want if your goal is to get the girl you're they want you going on a date with you knowing that you have an only

Madison Cawthornfans okay and that's really great of you guys to be so upfront like I think you all said that you'd be super upfront about that and like that's really I I have found in my experience that girls will hide that from me like in two seconds

Rockyand and that's cool you were a special case I think that's definitely very specifically I think some girls might I don't I don't think that's right but I think they would so so that's cool and like I get

Brian Atlasit there's guys that are going to accept that you do only fans my issue where I'm coming at it more from is you as a non-traditional woman are expecting

Brian Atlastraditional treatment from men that's where it is it's I agree with you yeah yeah there's going to be guys out there that despite despite how non-traditional you are whether in Behavior whether in I

Brian Atlasmean I would argue doing porn is extremely non-traditional yeah there's still guys that are going to give you the traditional treatment because that's what works best when it comes to getting women so of course they're going to do

Brian Atlasit because despite your Progressive nature they're still going to be like pay paying for dinner is not always just traditional anymore it is a traditional

Dubai guesttraditional it is what you expect something that I you're used to it air go you expect was in the middle of a sentence though go ahead yeah no yes well hold on I'm the

Brian Atlashost I know I'm the host so yes I will interrupt whenever I want okay because I have much more discretion when it comes to this conversation go ahead with your

Dubai guestpoint it's okay go ahead I finished my point go ahead okay well I was just saying that it's not even something that I ever said I need a man to do it's

Dubai guestsomething I've always gotten and something that a man has always done for me so that's just something I will not settle less for because that's so it's an entitlement no no no no hold on en so

Dubai guestare you less likely to go on a second date if the guy wants to split the bill no it it depends on him and the person but also it's just like now you said you just said you would not settle for less

Brian Atlasair go you feel I won't because air go it's an expectation that the guy pay for the first date you if you you won't settle for less that means there's not going to be a second date okay I get where you're coming from okay okay I'm

Madison Cawthornit's amazing that I have to walk you man you're checkmating like crazy killing but I I probably got like probably uh 15 minutes left so I have one big question that I just want to like pose out and

Madison Cawthornthis is and we can go around the table whatever you want to do but just if you have a comment on it do you not want a guy who is so freaking in love with you that like if another man like is like

Madison Cawthornlusting after you like I I I all my girlfriends have been really beautiful girls all my dates are like pretty girls I'm not going to get super butt hurt or mad if like a guy is like I'm getting a drink at a bar talking to somebody else

Madison Cawthornand a guy I see a guy hitting on her like I understand she's pretty like I would hit on her too I he couldn't have known but like do you not want a guy who's going to be furious if another dude is just sitting there like touching

Dubai guesthimself watching you naked like I mean I I I would lose my mind real though for us it's not like we're in to that or like we it's not someone we're actually

Dubai guestlike have a connection with or that we're like privately texting or it's actually privately sending like our stuff to it's it's literally I see where you're I see what

Kenzieyou're saying um I think the man would have to be able to separate the two like in my eyes cuz I'm on the other end of it it is separate for me it's separate

Dubai guestfor my personal life and some guys can't separate that which okay that's fine and I get that but you know and that's why

KatherineI'm seeking for a confident man in my life but I think sometimes um they you like to call it insecure but it's more sacred and a woman's body especially

Madison Cawthornbeing her partner that's sacred to her partner you're a freaking gangster by the way you have every answer has been just twist the hips and hit it out of the park that's been sick um all right

Brian Atlasdid you have more or you want oh I got all kinds of questions this is this is so fun okay well you do you have you said you have a hard stop here pretty soon or yeah I think like like 20 minutes like 10 okay all right okay by

Brian Atlasthen cool um I'm trying to think if there's any uh other things I had yeah I need some McDonald the second Twitter she has a Cindy has a second Twitter post okay let's pull it up let's see

Brian Atlaswhat it says Cindy I'm not attacking you first theight why can't boys act like men don't scroll down a hot picture why can't boys act like men why can't women

Korea/Annanot have only fans that picture is because they need money again but this goes back to the whole like non-traditional women want

Madison Cawthorntraditional men but I think you got to get off your more to that point cdy what can you define for me like what you're talking about when you say why can't boys be men like what do you

Brian Atlasmean sorry I think it was just a caption just like you guys did your research oh my gosh I didn't do any I didn't know any

Cindy Zangyour names I had no opposition goe I'm honored uh so I think the there was time where I was only

Cindy Zangattracting just boys like it was just um I do that every time I me kind of like not looking for like an actual man

Cindy ZangI was looking for like boys like boys that don't want to act like a man confident pays for the first

Brian Atlasdat just all the qualities that I seek for and a guy that I want to marry anything else besides that stuff like pays for first aid anything else like what do you want your home what do you

Madison Cawthornwant your home life to be like like you're married like are you are you still doing only fans at this point like you're like you know you you're got kids on the way you guys have your new house everything's great you know white fces

Madison Cawthornyou know the whole American dream like what do you want your man to be like do you want to be doing only fans at that point I would do it if he's okay with it yeah but if you met like a badass dude like a freaking killer and again just

Madison CawthornYouTube when I say killer I mean like a guy who like kills his goals like goes after him hard you meet like a killer like and he was like Hey I want you would you stop only fans for me would

Cindy Zangyou would you do it I don't think okay I wouldn't do it if I'm losing all my money right but like what point will you say yes if he's like providing though

Cindy Zangyeah like like he says marry me with I what point if he's providing yes but again going back to what I was talking about like I want to do my own thing like things that I like you're non-traditional woman why should a guy

Cindy Zangpay for you on the first day feminis Rous struck again and I'm not ridiculous I'm not even for me time I get married wait let me hold on let me just say this I say it's ridiculous to the point where

Cindy Zangit doesn't even involve only fans just different things that I want to do like maybe it's acting maybe it's singing what's up okay

Brian Atlasum so I say it's ridiculous but the reality is is that there's a large it's like this whole idea of like oh these only fans girls they're never granted I do think it's true like they're going to

Brian Atlasclose their doors to a lot of dudes but the reality is reality is like women's sexual optionality is so insane that whether they do only fans whether

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