US Congressman vs. Feminists (ALMOST KICKED), E-girls, OF Girls! 1 SHOW LEFT! | Dating Talk #128

Date: 2023-12-18

Duration: 7h 12m

Guests

Brian Atlas

RRocky (DT128)>

KKorea (DT128)>

KKenzie (DT128)>

KKatherine (DT128)>

SSalem (DT128)>

DDeMaya (DT128)>

MMadison Cawthorn >

DDubai guest (DT128)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Kenzie(guest)

SPEAKER_05Korea/Anna(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Madison Cawthorn(guest)

SPEAKER_08Rocky(guest)

SPEAKER_09Asia(guest)

SPEAKER_10Katherine(guest)

SPEAKER_12Salem/DeMaya(guest)

SPEAKER_13Cindy Zang(guest)

SPEAKER_14Dubai guest(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMadison Cawthorn introduces himself as former NC-11 Congressman who now does commercial real estate in Naples FL. Youngest elected congressman at the time. Mentions wanting to run again after starting a family.

“hey everyone my name is Madison cauthorne I'm from the great Appalachian Mountains of North Carolina but I now live in Florida in Naples uh I do commercial real estate used to be in politics”

QuoteMadison describes the Senate staffer sex tape scandal: a gay pornographic video filmed in a Senate hearing room. Madison connects it to broader sexual misconduct in Washington DC.

“he went into this area I just saw like you know one screenshot and filmed a a um a homosexual erotic video of just full on sex and in in the US Senate in a hearing room”

QuoteKatherine shares she went to Planned Parenthood while 6 weeks pregnant but chose not to abort when she heard the heartbeat. Baby's father initially pushed for abortion.

“I always told myself if it has a heartbeat I'm not going to do it like if I know has a heartbeat I'm not doing it and when I was there I found out it was she was 6 weeks”

ControversyBrian accuses a female guest of using loaded language ('teenagers') to frame his questions about body count in a bad light. Extended back-and-forth about whether the framing was disingenuous.

“you're trying to be kind of Shifty about it but that's a very loaded way to ask that question”

QuoteDubai guest explains she does OnlyFans to fund her real estate and fashion business goals; has already invested in property. Sets $600K/year passive income as exit threshold. Leaving for Dubai.

“the only reason I do it is to kind of fund what I really want to do which is like go into like fashion and you know have my own business and invest in like property and real estate”

QuoteMadison reveals he discovered a girl he was dating had an OnlyFans through a biometric search using her tattoo. He ended the relationship, saying he cannot be with her as he is an example to young men.

“we have a lot of programs we just used the tattoo she had not been doing only fans for a very long time...instantly popped up her pictures and I was like listen like I personally cannot be with you because I'm an example to young men”

QuoteBrian rates himself 5/10 for looks due to weight gain and dad bod. Madison says he was 9.5 at age 24 (Congress thumbnail) and is now an 8.

“I get myself uh I used to say six but I'm a five because I've gained some weight I've got a dad bod right now I need to lose it”

QuoteMadison explains his sex rule: he will not have sex with a woman unless he is in love with her, and he only falls in love if he believes she would be a good mother.

“I will not have sex with a girl if I'm not in love with her and I will only fall in love with a girl if I'm if she is I think she would be a perfect like a good mom”

OtherRocky and another guest reveal they have chastity keys (for a male 'slave'/simp in a penis cage). Madison repeatedly tries to look away. Extended back-and-forth before they offer to show it.

“chassity keys are like basically cage for a...their penis is an occasion no literally you should show him you should show him yeah you want to see it we have it”

QuoteKenzie shares story of being flown out by an unnamed rapper who had a girlfriend. She decided not to have sex with him; fell asleep while he made moves; he left the hotel room. She checked out the next morning.

“I'm at the airport and I'm on the phone with my friend and he's like he has a girlfriend...I knew I was not going to have sex with him”

QuoteDubai guest describes getting a severe kidney infection while at Ken Carson's studio session. Passed out on the couch with her mouth open while Ken Carson, Lonely, and others were present. Found it extremely embarrassing.

“I literally fall on the ground and throw up everywhere on melro...the guy that I was like there with takes a picture of me on the couch passed out with my mouth wide open in front of all of them”

QuoteMadison explains why some Western men are converting to Islam: frustration that Christianity is perceived as passive/weak while Islam aggressively defends its prophet. Madison says he doesn't condone violence but understands the appeal.

“guys just think that people in the American Christian Church have confused meekness for weakness...in Islam if people attack you Muhammad they'll blow up a freaking office building”

Topics Discussed

Introductions

Guests introduce themselves: Cindy Zang, Rocky, Korea, Kenzie, Katherine, Asia, Anna, Salem, DeMaya, Madison Cawthorn.

Congressional sex tape / Senate scandal

Madison Cawthorn discusses Daily Caller story about a Senate staffer filming an erotic video in a Senate hearing room. Debate about what tax dollars are spent on.

Relationship status round

Each guest shares current relationship status, longest relationship, recent history. Includes Cindy's celibacy, Rocky's polyamory, Korea's Roblox LDR, Katherine's co-parenting situation.

Paternity testing debate

Should mandatory paternity testing at birth be implemented? Most guests support mandatory testing; debate on whether it protects both parents.

OnlyFans and sex work

Extended discussion on OnlyFans as a career: financial goals (Dubai guest sets $600K passive income), parental reactions, future relationship prospects, dad's reaction hypotheticals, content permanence on the internet.

Physical attractiveness and aging

Debate on whether women are more attractive now or in 10 years. Most guests claim they will be more attractive later; Brian and Madison argue peak attractiveness is in early-mid 20s for women. Extended argument over whether self-ratings are delusional.

Tattoos, attractiveness, and male preferences

Discussion on whether tattoos on women increase or decrease attractiveness. Brian and Madison argue most men find heavy tattoos neutral to negative; guests push back.

Dating standards and situationships

Brian explains he wants women to be properly single and fully focused on him from the first date. Madison discusses similar standards. Korea and guests push back on exclusivity demands.

BDSM and kink debate

Rocky discusses BDSM/power dynamics. Brian argues paying men into bankruptcy is exploitative/mental illness. Rocky defends negotiated consent in BDSM. Madison discusses Biblical submission in marriage.

Male submission / women kneeling / relationship power dynamics

Brian says he requires a woman to bow to him as a sign of respect. Rocky and others debate whether this constitutes BDSM. Madison explains Biblical husband-wife leadership model.

Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Cindy: 10, Kenzie: 9, some guests 8, one 7, Salem: 10. Brian rates himself 5. Madison was 9.5 at 24, now 8. Extended debate on whether high self-ratings are delusional.

Sex timing / waiting to have sex

Brian says he has no rule about waiting; willing to have sex on the first date. Madison says he will not have sex unless he is in love and sees the woman as a potential good mother.

Feminist identity

Brian asks each guest if they consider themselves a feminist. Mixed responses.

Orange peel theory / dating tests

Discussion of 'orange peel theory' — asking a partner to peel an orange as a test of care and service. Brian says on first dates he has the girl fold laundry as his own version.

Rapper stories

Kenzie shares story of being flown out by a rapper (unnamed); no sex occurred; he left when she fell asleep. Dubai guest shares kidney infection story at Ken Carson/Lonely studio session. Cindy mentions meeting Snoop Dogg professionally.

Men fleeing to Islam / Middle East

Madison discusses why some Western men are converting to Islam: frustration that Christianity is perceived as weak while Islam is seen as militant in defense of its faith.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaswithout further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age occupation and location go ahead hi my name is Cindy Zang I am 23 years old I am a only

Rockyfans model welcome welcome what about you thank you I'm Rocky I'm 30 something uh who who whoa who who 30 something 30

Rockywhat I'm 30 something I'm between 30 and 40 and I am an adult entertaining entertainment uh Administrative Assistant um I'm in from La okay I'll just say

Korea/Annayou're 35 okay hi I'm Korea I'm 19 and I worked at the airport but doing me right now push

Brian Atlasyour mic this way this way yeah that way no no no like scoot it scoot it scoot it yep um your name is Korea how do you spell that k o r r e is that a nickname or is that your first my government

Brian Atlasthat's your government government name you gave us the government name that's bold that's my government name okay very not supposed to do that no you can you can give your your govern okay uh what

Kenzieabout you hi my name is Kenzie um I do social media and only fans age No

Kenzie19 19 okay uh social media what kind of social media do do you do I do Instagram um I do a lot on Tik

KenzieTok um Snapchat and and I'm going to start streaming soon is there something oh Twitter is there anything else you do on social

Brian Atlasmedia that's it well you're an adult content creator correct yes okay I said that did you mhm did yeah that was like the first thing I said okay I'm brain

Katherinedead apparently go ahead uh my name is Katherine I'm 26 I'm a substitute teacher uh I'm from

AsiaFontana okay welcome hi my name is Asia I am am a uh well I go to school um to

Korea/Annabe a medical assistant and I do social media age um 25 25 all right welcome hi I'm Anna I'm 19 I'm from lpo

Korea/AnnaCalifornia and I am a sophomore in college and I'm a server at a restaurant welcome hi I'm Salem I'm adult content creator and a

Salem/DeMayamodel very age oh I'm 20 all right hi my name is de

Brian AtlasMaya and I'm 25 and I work for the CDC on Edwards Air Force Base o oh Nick that audio sounds okay I'll fix I'll get up

Brian Atlasand fix that um wait so you work are you in the military no I'm a civilian oh okay civilian contractor or whatever um or not even a contractor not even just Civ I know is there a term for that um

Salem/DeMayathey have contractors they have civilian or in the military guys can you hear her yeah she's really you got to project your voice a little bit they have contractors or you

Madison Cawthorncan be in the military or a civilian got it yes okay what about you hey everyone my name is Madison cauthorne I'm from the great Appalachian Mountains of North Carolina but I now live in Florida in

Madison CawthornNaples uh I do commercial real estate used to be in politics um but you know I just spend a lot of time out in the water have great friends love shooting guns love my dog you know have a really

Brian Atlasfun life so very happy person all right uh age I'm 28 years old 28 years old and you were previously in Congress correct I was yep represented the 11th District of North Carolina so it's basically

Madison Cawthorneverything on the western side basically anything above 1,500 feet elevation was mine um but it's great border Tennessee so you got just got great people on both sides really can't beat it um you know sered for two years from 2020 all the

Madison Cawthornway through uh 2022 and it was just wild time to be in Congress but it was very very exciting are you going to you think you're going to run for uh run again you think or we'll see I really want to start a family first um but then you know it's

Madison Cawthornjust we're our country is just teetering on collapse whether you know no M regardless of what side of the political Spectrum you're on life is just getting worse uh by every metric and so I think

Madison Cawthornit's just it's a it's a sad day when men in America you know strong women just people who want to change their country decide to stay on the sidelines just cuz they're afraid of some negative articles

Madison Cawthornor anything like that and it's just I think the uh you know we have a massive lack of men who are wanting to stand up and defend what makes our country free and great okay and so

Brian Atlasrecently I think this story broke two days ago you might be more privy to this than I am what is going on in the Senate dating podcast but it's sort of related because it's actually kind of

Madison Cawthornrelated to dating sort of you know so the da The Daily Caller a fantastic uh news organization they broke a story of basically somebody I don't know if he was an adult content creator I don't know anything about the gentleman that

Madison Cawthornwas in this video uh I know that he was a staffer for a senator and we have hearing rooms where you have committee hearings um and apparently he went into this area I just saw like you know one

Madison Cawthornscreenshot and filmed a a um a homosexual erotic video of just full on sex and in in the US Senate in a hearing room and so anyways you I I had talked

Madison Cawthornabout some sexual ver was going on in Washington DC a long time ago and it just that got really riled up and so now there's you know things trending on Twitter about you know just that sounds very serious it was something it was

Brian Atlassomething were have you ever been in that exact room like did it look familiar to you imagine thank God so I was in the house so I'm I'm on the south side of the capital that's on the north

Madison Cawthornside of the capital I've not been in that particular room but it was a uh it was a senate sen room and so which is even more egregious because you know the Senators are the ones who do much more of the governing that you know the house they have an election every two years so

Madison Cawthornthey're much more accountable to the will of the people but the Senate are the people who approve judges approve the people who are appointed to these three-letter agencies that run your life and so to have a senate person who represents an entire State one of his staffers doing this I I don't know what

Madison Cawthornside of the aisle he was on but that's just that what are tax dollars being spent on for a guy to film a porno a picture for you I'll paint a

Brian Atlaspicture for you he's in this Cong Prof hearing room and he's bent

Brian Atlasover all fours all fource wow taking it up the uh is he getting pged the how does Borat up the uh how what does Borat

Dubai guestyou have to use the Borat voice for that what was the how does Borat refer to the borax borax you don't know Borat Borat no Borat you guys don't know Borat no wow I don't know what's he how does he

Cindy Zangrefer to it he's like literally the epitome of like common I don't know in any case I have no clue I have to I must be living under the rock more of the story Madison for president the

Brian Atlasanus he's getting it up the anus in the Congressional hearing room so I wonder what hearing was most recently held before that sex tape like

Madison Cawthornit was some super serious hearing about Eastern European geopolitics it probably triggered something and then he just was like I got to get the stress out somehow let me just join only fans Fil A quick

TTS/Chatvideo join only fans grid One Motorsports I got $2 stacked panel happy to see a

TTS/Chatpolitician out of the Manama and can't walk off the show also Brian here is a slogan for your nonprofit boys like Barbies men like Aries all Leia matter

Brian Atlasyo thank you man appreciate it the Armani armor was a a very good very good grid one good to see you in the chat man okay so we're going to go around the table once more so what is your current

Brian Atlasrelationship status are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married polyu sex cult herum if you're single how long have you been single what and what's the

Cindy Zanglongest relationship you've ever been in starting with you going around go ahead so I am currently single my last relationship was in April I haven't really dated long term

Brian Atlasit's just been like da here and there you uh what's the longest you

TTS/Chatthough uh I like half a year 6 months yeah oh amore eobi donated $200 is that

TTS/Chatobliterated anyone who was engaging in immorality on Tuesday especially only fans people he also helped people build multinational real businesses earn your

Brian Atlasleisure The Breakfast Club uh Amala EK punabi okay I know I'm in a wheelchair so I'm really short but that went over my head I really that H me uh

Brian Atlasthank you Amala eunavi appreciate it um okay so you six months so I have like multiple relationships and they like last about like at the same time no not

Cindy Zangthe same time no like different years like I'm um uh monogamy I like monog monogamous monogamous that you're territorial you know you you don't want

Brian Atlasto share them no I'm loyal gotta you know what I mean I love only one one one man wait so you've been single since April so nothing since April like you've

Brian Atlasbeen celibate since April I have been celibate since April stop the cap yo Chad is it still a little too loud we had to readjust the uh um you've been celibate since April yes I have I don't

Brian Atlasbelieve that for a second but okay it's true it's true it's true okay um so your longest relationship with 6 months you said yeah

Brian Atlasand but so okay and you're 23 when was that relationship well my last was April but was that the longest one the 6mon one

Cindy Zangyeah it lasts like around like half a year and that ended in April yeah okay but I have other relationships when my first relationship was when I was

Rocky18 and then okay yeah all right what about you I am poly amoris uh I do have a part it's complicated um my longest relationship was 4 years um that was a

Brian Atlaswhile ago stop counting longest relationship four years how long have you been seeing your current partner about a year one year okay I'm assuming there is it a unit directional like he's

Brian Atlasalso seeing other people um he's or it's a she I don't know if it's a she but um it's a he okay so he's exclusive to you yes but you're not exclusive to him correct it's complicated it's sounds

Brian Atlascomplicated um and so since you're polyamorous how many people are you currently involved with I guess I'm not I'm not so it's it's pretty complicated what do you mean so I'm not involved

Rockywith anybody else right now like sexually but I'm polyamorous so there's so there's periods where you might be the are you saying the options open the

Brian Atlasoption sort of yeah wait so uh when you were polyamorous what's the most amount of people that you've seen at one time

Rockyat one time oh my God uh I stopped counting that's one of those things I don't I don't really have a a tally for that if you I've couples I've had ories

Brian Atlaswe've had not your total not your total Partners but like at one time like if you you're seeing like three dudes at a time five a rotation probably three to five at one time so what's the highest

Brian Atlasthough that would probably the highest five the rotation the ro roster theer have you ever and I'll add that question for everybody here so what's have you ever

Cindy Zanghad a uh roster or rotation a roster I mean I have H you got to always have H around you

Cindy Zangknow where the hoes at where the ho at sexy red in the house you know so

Cindy Zanguh I'm so weak yeah so uh so yeah you know what I mean you got to yeah do you currently have hoes I

Cindy Zangalways got hoes you got to always have ho different area Coates or say how many how many hoes do you currently have I don't really like so we're just like I

Cindy Zangdon't like unlim yeah I just talk to them as like friends like I'm not like entertain like I'm not like I mean sexually active yeah exactly I mean when I think of Hose I that has a kind of

Dubai guestspecific definition just option ho are options so it's like you have people around if you wanted to have sex with them you could but it's like not you not necessarily you're with them but

Cindy Zangyou they're people who will always have you had sex with any of your hoes there you go uh no not my ho like people that actually like respect me and treat me

Cindy Zanglike a queen and a princess then like we can go there so what just you have hoes like I have people that are interested me so they're like in your or if I gave

Madison Cawthornthem a chance they would take it so basically what it sounds like is like you know this and this is a debate we hear a lot of times with like guys who are basically saying like oh I don't like when my girlfriend has a lot of guy

Madison Cawthornfriends or close guy friends because we all at the table know that if a girl like said you know texted with a guy like oh he's like my brother yeah but if you texted him was like hey do you want to sleep with me tonight he'd be like I will be there in 10 minutes and so I'm

Madison Cawthornguessing like there there are options for you but they you're you're their main target yeah we're friends we're not like close like like yeah I wouldn't say like they know everything I've never heard guys refer to His Ho but I mean

Madison Cawthornyou know what these guys they're they're chasing they're chasing you don't call girls ho I mean I've called girls H before I have I don't call girls hoes I I don't

Brian Atlasthis we're talking we're talking like teenage years yeah I call them slaves just kidding just kidding just kiding

Brian Atlasjust kidding um wait okay not even mad Rocky not mad I'm not even mad me and Rocky have our chassity keys on

TTS/Chatyou're what we have our slaves in a c donated $200 she means simps yeah

Brian Atlasthat's I the wait guys guys guys hey guys guys guys do not talk during the TTS

Brian Atlasplease okay uh grid one so he said but they got nothing going to get nothing okay um do you want to address

Cindy Zangthat is that what you mean B I don't use I'm

Cindy Zanganswering um I don't whoa okay the effects in here okay so uh no I don't use these guys for money I just think I

TTS/ChatI'm an independent woman I make my own money oh

TTS/Chatdonated $200 my sprinkler goes like

TTS/Chatthis you just donated $200 to okay comes back like

Madison Cawthornthis thank you that good thank you man um so basically grid One Motorsports who gave a great donation he said would you define these guys as simps yeah I would

Brian Atlassay they are Sims I feel I feel like it that settles that settled you got ho that are simps that was good translation gri one good translation um wait but so just curious so you said that you've got some hoes but then you also have some

Cindy Zangguys who you're taking a bit more a maybe a guy who you're taking a bit more seriously if like yeah if a guy that I like I'm sexually attracted to We Vibe

Brian Atlastogether yeah if you Vibe I can see us dating then yeah I'd be down to get into business you know so you currently have a guy that you're

Cindy Zanggetting down no not right now I told you I'm celibate right now okay I don't chase after men you don't chase after men no why is that cuz that's not what you want to put

Cindy Zangout in the universe you're going to track the wrong type of men that you don't want to like spiritually get connected with you know so so men should chase

Cindy Zangyou ume I feel like it should be both parts like if you're interested in a guy you definitely should show I'm sorry your your thing is going to bother me the entire night can you take it off my bracelet yeah it's just banging against

Cindy Zangthe table uh but yeah no like I wouldn't say like like you're like um what do they call it um Passenger not passenger

Cindy Zangpassenger princess what is the the one like in your in bed where like the guy does everything yeah like I wouldn't say like a pillow Princess where like he needs to

Cindy Zangdo everything what but like you definitely need to show like reciprocated reciproc yeah reciprocation cuz like so I'm from the south right like I'm a prince of the

Madison CawthornSouth so basically in the South how it normally goes is most girls like want to be pursued by a guy which I think is the right way things work out but you know you know a a shrew girl a shrewd girl you know she might like drop her handkerchief so he has an opportunity to

Madison Cawthornpick it up and be like oh hey you dropped this ma'am you know so like you're you're being shrew shrew shrew yeah like um uh so we do you need a definition or so we yeah so like black SL like shrewd basically

Madison Cawthornmeaning like someone who like thinks in like a a tactical way no no like shrew being like Oh I I have a really good plan like if I drop this right in front of him he'll opportunity to pick it up then he can talk to me and so then like if a guy's shy you're giving him an

Cindy Zangopportunity to make the first move and so is that kind of what you're saying like if you like a guy you're going to pursue him like that I feel like my myen person is just like looking at him and

Brian Atlasthen he needs to just like pick that up that like he needs to approach me wonder why young men are so confused

Madison Cawthornher RZ is her RZ is looking at the guys read the mind yeah can ask question did you say that you were an only fans model I am an only fans model what's this is just one question I've I I've kind of a

Madison Cawthornquestion I've always wanted to ask about this is do you not feel like you cuz you talked about how like if Chase guys is going to attract the wrong kind of guys you know betas guys you're not going to like be attracted to spiritually

Madison Cawthornrelationally do you not feel like only fans kind of like attracts like just these like weak kind of guys who just want to sit in a corner and I don't know pay a girl to do something instead of earning

Dubai guestit so you're talking about how my only fan Sims no no he's saying like the fact that you do only fans he's saying does

Cindy Zangthat affect the type of guy that come at you like it definitely does it definitely does I I I definitely here get a lot more like guys approaching me

Cindy Zangbut at the same time I can like pick it off no he he's saying like the type of guys that come the quality the quality of guys um yeah I think it does affect

Brian Atlaslike the quality of guys we'll we'll dive more into the whole dating thing when it comes to if you're involved in only fans I want to get around the table really quick on everybody's relationship status before that though I just want a

Brian Atlaslittle more clarification on the hose thing what does that mean like what are you saying I don't get it like you've got dudes around you that just do for you

Brian Atlasbasically like have you ever heard of the song Sexy red I'm looking for the h would you say your are your male if you know you yo yo yo hold on guys guys

Brian Atlasplease stop we need one person speaking at a time there's way too much cross here one person at a time please go ahead yeah like my ho is just it's just like a flirty like it's not it's not

Brian Atlasthat deep it's just so you're currently ENT have H like are these potential guys you would sleep with potential guys or it could be like

Brian Atlasif you know sometimes like so you're you're saying you're getting attention from men that you're not dating really and that you're not sleeping with or just friends

Brian AtlasI think a I would assume a hoe is a bit different than what a friend is it's just options yeah it is just option hold on friends but they're hoes I'm a little confused I'm not even

Madison Cawthorngoing to lie I brought it up because of the sexy red song I just said I'm looking for is that I just wanted to say it I don't know who sex she she's a pretty famous song you

Kenzielike if they werei if they were potential ho are potential people that you wanted to sleep with like wouldn't you kind of want them to be like a friend first like wouldn't you want to like that person

Brian Atlasfriend the vast majority that's not how the vast majority of relationships start it's not like let's be friends for a year and then no it's like it starts off

Brian Atlasto some degree within a romantic context either you meet out out somewhere you meet on a dating app I'm not going to be friends with a girl I think for a is someone that you're sleeping around with

Brian Atlasno but not even oh my God I'm losing brain cells with this conversation all right moving on um what what's your relationship status Rocky oh wait just

Brian Atlaskidding situationship okay situationship yeah uh like okay so how long how long have you been in the

Brian Atlassituationship well for like eight months I want say eight month situationship okay is that your longest anything longest

Korea/Annarelationship well we were dating but we broke up but we're kind of like talking and stuff so it's like wait so it's an 8mon on and off again situationship no

Korea/Annawe were dating for eight months but you're still seeing we broke up like we broke up like two months ago something like that so now when last time you saw

Brian Atlashim yesterday in February wait February February February it's December you said you broke up two months ago long a long

Brian Atlasyou're in a long distance on and off again situationship yeah M um he's from Jersey he's from Jersey okay everything's legal in Jersey true I love

TTS/ChatJersey wait it's okay you saw him eight months ago I'm okay cost donated

TTS/Chat$27 Brian tried to stay for the Pod going to go in the SAA hey grid one lady pick your guys carefully if you see red

Brian Atlasflags move calm them girls yo dude thank you man I'm about I'm going to trigger your other one that came in before the show um thank you man appreciate it yeah it's uh good to see you in the chat man

TTS/Chatthank you thank you good to see grid one in the chat also here it's a there it is there we goor donated $27 hey Brian panel merry Christmas

TTS/Chathappy New Year early one of the best things about having a Christmas SL family is watching your kids rip open presents have a family it's a key to long-term happiness emo okay thank you

Brian Atlasman that's the merry Christmas to you too Happy New Year Merry Christmas um thank you man appreciate it uh anybody here have a family like kids just you you got kids anybody else have kids no

Brian Atlasokay uh all right we we'll get into that in a little bit um so okay you're you're in a situationship but you haven't seen him since February in person yeah have

Korea/Annayou ever seen him in person or well of course yeah well actually when I was like 17 um I like snuck out across the country yeah how did you get that my my

Korea/Annagrandparents don't know till this day cuz I stayed with my grandparents okay now well how did did you drive you took airplane I took a plane oh okay cuz my my aunt was going

Brian Atlasto Vegas to see my cousin so I was like oh I'm just go with her but I didn't go to Vegas I went to Jersey okay all right uh so question for you you haven't

Brian Atlasseen this guy since February you guys kind of broke up two months ago but you're working it out it sounds like

Background/miscyeah okay so are you seeing other guys um that's a yes no comment were you seeing other guys

Brian Atlasduring what was it ever exclusive me and him yeah yeah during that any guys okay like he was my man he

Brian Atlashe's still my man he's still your man even though you guys broke up two months ago and you're in a situationship I have him on a leash you have him on a leash well the the follow-up question I was

Brian Atlasgoing to ask you is are are uh is he dating other women oh no no mm- you say that like he can't get other women like he just doesn't have him on a leash you have him on a leash what does that mean

Korea/Annato have him on a leash they obsessed yeah he's like obsessed with me how how we just like we have like genuine love for each other and we're like trying to

Korea/Annalike work on ourselves before we like I don't know take it like to the next level type so you said that you guys were on and off again kind

Brian Atlasof no cuz you you said you broke up right yeah who broke up with who

Korea/Annano comment it was just like who BR who broke up with who it was it was just like we just needed okay he dumped you no no it was Mutual like

Korea/Annawe needed time to like work on ourselves okay it was Mutual he mutually dumped you Mutual um so well if he dumped me

Brian Atlasthen like be on like me like every day okay how did the breakup go tell pretend I'm your boyfriend that you have on the leash where's the

Brian Atlasleash okay what's who who started cuz like it's mutual but somebody has to like right unless there's some big blowup fight or something well it kind of was like a big blow up then we're

Korea/Annajust like you know what this but like we still love each other that's why we're like still talking to each other type it's just complicated that's

Brian Atlaswhy situation goals yeah wait goals go they love each other goals no that does not sound like goals at all that doesn't sound like how about just like

Madison Cawthornbeing in a being in a functioning yeah that's goals too relationship yeah of course go ahead let let me ask

Madison Cawthornyou do you want a man who's on a leash like let me just give you a scenario bump in the night you guys are both in bed together you you he's moved across the country for you cuz he's your

Madison Cawthornman you're like you Beck you snap the finger he came he he you guys are living together he's you're in bed all of a sudden you hear some some goons trying to break in the front door if a guy's on a leash do you

Madison Cawthornfeel like you're going to have to like get them up be like go protect me or like I mean what's it mean to have a guy on a leash like that just feels like he's a he's a he got a whole gun and everything okay well see we like that I

Madison Cawthornlike that Mr Jersey you ain't no Yankee all right but anyways but like what does it mean to have le I mean to like a certain degree like I don't want him like interested in like a whole lot of like so do you have a technique for that

Madison Cawthorndo you just straight up like go in like love bombing then like kind of pull the pull the love back a little bit like you know okay kind of little some some kindhearted

Brian Atlasmanipulation wait a certain degree I guess someone donated don't okay how just sorry pay attention to the conversation we'll read it later thank

Brian Atlasyou Bender the offender we'll get to in a bit um so okay you are uh you are seeing other guys though is that correct no but okay when I asked you were like about that one like there's

Korea/Annaother guys in the picture right I think she got hoes I have hoes yeah that might be it like if I wanted to go out and like you know is that why you left the airport too many hoes yes oh yeah yes I

Madison Cawthornhad a lot of ho how does your how does your guy feel about you having guys around you that want to sleep with you all the time he don't care cuz he know who eats it better oh oh

Brian Atlaswhat I'm going just be honest wait that's how like that's his claim to like I eat her better so I've got her on lock is that I'm like

Korea/Annayeah I so he I'm not actually I'm actually he knows that too I'm not in yo Todd thank you for the raid man

Brian Atlasmuch appreciated thank you dude um that was a World of Warcraft sound oh that brought some memories back man I was the freaking blood elf Paladin oh let's go oh and we have flan life with a gifted 10 memberships thank you man you

Madison Cawthornplay World of Warcraft I mean back in the day yeah did you play classic or was it the that sounds like the bur it classic yeah it was bur burning Crusade like when I was 14 I I was I was Heavy

TTS/Chatokay you said a blood elf what bloodelf Paladin Paladin yeah R you played R retribution thank donated $200 Wheels over there is thinking he

TTS/Chathas never seen so much copium in in one room got a man on a leash you ain't got a man you have a SIM break it off work

Salem/DeMayaon yourself and maybe a man will find you ooh oh all right grid one okay grid one

Brian Atlaswhat is copium he's um copium is like so cope copium it's like uh opium like it's a drug and you're the cope is

Brian Atlasso strong that you're like addicted to the cope is that actually what it means I here I can Google it you talking like cop and SE like cope cop

Brian Atlascopium it's it's combines cope and opium so okay it's used satirically and as a joke term used to describe a fictional drug that one consumes after suffering a loss defeat or disappointment it is used

Brian Atlaswhen the facts do not match up with reality so some copium all right well done gri one that's good okay um all right so I'm just uh you said you got hoes but you're

Brian Atlasdating this guy and there's maybe other guys in the picture and you have him on a leash how do you have him on a leash that's where that's what I'm confused about it's not so much about like having him on like a leash like he's we're just

Brian Atlasin love you appreciate you saying that by the way like would he agree with you that he's on a leash because that's yeah he would agree with if he was sitting here right now he would says donated

TTS/Chat$200 what kind of diabolical Shenanigans am I listening to than males not men that are with these SLS are bece almost

Brian Atlasas bad as no real man will ever be with these Hearts hey be let's be nice okay we got to be nice to them you know they've come on the podcast got to be

Brian Atlasnice got to be nice cheeks um how did you meet this did you meet him online this guy yeah how on Roblox oh no way to be exact it was Roblox

Korea/Annawell there she goes exposing know I love my girl but it was

Background/misc[Applause] Roblox all

Brian Atlasright face I don't want to move could you would you mind grab me a cup of water you want me to grab you water no no no just stay there Nick Nick will Nick will thank you oh my God oh um you

Korea/Annamet him online I didn't want to make this so Federal but yeah yeah I met in Roblox but we've known each other for

Korea/Annalike I'm serious we've known each other for like eight years but then we got into like being serious and then I went to go see him and then the rest is

Cindy Zanghistory basically I feel like I feel like he would agree too like he's probably venting you to his guy friends she got

Brian Atlasme like I've never played Roblox that's like uh is that kind of like Minecraft or something kind of is that like Minecraft yeah but it has like more like

Brian Atlasmini games like you can like interact with you need to play G I need to play I'll I'll find me a a girlfriend on Roblox is

Dubai guestthat a bad bit I've heard of so many Roblox love stories and stuff that is like a very I knew so how did what's the name of

Korea/Annayour character on Roblox okay I'll drop my app peanut butter jelly 09 oh my God so cute I made a okay so what was his I don't know if

Brian Atlasyou can share his your I don't know if are you're able to like how do you how does he do you know how like what you look like in the game like do you guys share Instagrams no because like he's just like you're really good at the game like I want to

Korea/Anna[Music] well it was like more of a like I was like on this like role playing game but we were and we weren't role playing

Korea/Annaon the game huh H we like moved on to Discord like we talked on Discord can you share

Korea/Annaon and stuff discord's lit so who made the first move you guys were honestly it was so long time ago I can't even remember it was her she made the first wait were you

Korea/Annaalso you're you're her friend right so were you also on the Roblox um you know I wasn't there when they met but you I knew that they met if that makes sense I wasn't there actively during the game

Madison Cawthornbut I knew what was going on this doesn't sound like a standard first person shooter I got to be honest like it's I think it's a kids game isn't it I had it when I was 13 we were kids

Kenzieyeah we were children said eight years do you guys have like an age Gap at all are yall same age no he's 22 okay

Brian Atlasthat's is that a is that a yikes I don't know if it's a yikes um no uh okay so oh the question I was going to ask is when it comes to the whole leash

Brian Atlasthing seriously if he was sitting there right now would he appreciate you saying that you have him on the leash no like would he agree with you that

Korea/Annahe's on a leash he'd probably be like yeah I got her on a Leash too honestly okay um and he does you both

Brian Atlashave each other on a leash so you're both walking each other in some sort of inception Inception leash scenario

Brian Atlasokay um so okay you met him on a video game he lived in New Jersey you lived in California you lived so you've met him in person once no when

Korea/Annawe started dating like I went back and forth back and you would fly without your parents knowing that

Brian Atlaswas the first time you okay how old were you I 17 that's a how old was he okay that's kind of that's a

Dubai guestyikes that's a yikes that's a Yik he was 18 oh I mean wait what was that how old were you 17 17 yeah did I switch it my bad um it's not bad it's not bad what

Brian Atlascan you get me some water I'm thirsty yeah we'll get we'll get you some water um uh okay so how many times have you flown to

Korea/AnnaJersey I went

Brian Atlaslike twice a month I want to say for like two weeks wait you went twice a month for two weeks so

Brian Atlasyou twice a month for two weeks so four weeks there's four weeks in a month so you would just does anybody elated

TTS/Chat$200 I typically rate women who dress like escorts as a 4.5 by default but I'm going to knock you filthy Beach down to

TTS/Chata 2.3 due to Gentle code R I demand the CDC lady calling an air strike the CDC you got to call him an a strike okay B

Brian Atlashere I'll send in I'll send in the the that thing okay there you go thank you Jay Butler appreciate it good to see you he's a he's a urologist by the way wait

Brian Atlasso you did he ever fly to see you no who would pay for the flight you or him he paid for it every time mhm he'd

Madison Cawthornpay okay I'm just going to say there's no way a guy who you're flying across the country like twice a week to see and he's paying for your flights every time is going to be like yeah say I'm on a

Madison Cawthornleash I just don't he's not he's got a gun he's not coming off that kind of guy like I think we have a different definition of when a guy's on a leash like that sounds like just a a bait of to me like a certain extent like

Dubai guestare you saying like his loyalty level to you yeah okay I got you but right now you're not in a relationship it's complicated a situation sitation situation exclusive but not like

Madison Cawthornlabeling it but they're like not seeing other people you know let's just call Y y'all would do so well in Congress like a good Omnibus Bill you guys can make it

Brian Atlasso confusing how well they've DED okay um but so you are dating other men that's what it sounded like no or like there's other guys in the picture no you said didn't you say you have hoes she

TTS/Chatsaid no but she said there's people that she could hit up like if she wanted to oh okay all right oh hold on beaten cheeks donated one

TTS/Chatthese girls are not even fives yet are grabbing these simps like nothing males you better not be subbing to these harlots at all because if Jesus can't

Brian Atlassave these hes why are you trying STD check oh my thank uh thank you cheeks keep it nice you a bro uh paper towels

Brian Atlaspaper towels mayday mayday man down man down it's not too bad take I can do it yeah thank you man um

Kenzieyour relationship status go ahead I am single uh my longest relationship was 8 months and it was in high school so I don't know if that really

Kenziecounts um what what year what grade I guess what grade um if it was like senior year maybe it counts but no we ended like freshman we ended our

Brian Atlasrelationship at the beginning middle of 2020 what so you were sophomore sophomore okay well you're you said you're 19

Kenzieright yes okay and that was eight months but and you've been single for how long um I had another relationship during this

Kenzieyear I'd rather not disclose when but whoa whoa whoa why is that why is that um because it conflicts with another guy that you were dating no no

Kenziejust just my what I do what you do I'd rather like the internet not know like my uh relationship status or when

Brian Atlasor yeah so it kind of sounds like maybe you're seeing a couple different guys and you don't want them to know the time no not at all it's

Brian Atlasstrictly because of what I do what what do you do only fans social media oh and wait why can't they know because you do

Kenzieonly fans I'm just curious um it conflicts with people cuz people on sometimes they get weird when you

Kenziehave like a yeah like people don't people are less driven to communicate with you and follow you um on only fans if you are in a

Kenzierelationship and I did make my relationship public at one point and it kind of screwed up business a little bit so I just kind of like to keep that out

Brian Atlasbut I will say it was this year and it lasted about five months okay yeah all right yeah I mean we've definitely heard that that's a pretty common thing that

Brian Atlasfor female content creators female only fans girls Etc they typically are going to either not disclose their relationship status or just lie and say they're single because it hurts their bottom line basically right I am single

Brian Atlasthough well if you were in a relationship I don't suspect you would disclose your a relationship because of what you just said right but so you I I am saying I am single though like but

Brian Atlasmaybe you're not but I am but you're single but but I am you might not be because it hurts your bottom line but I am but she is she's actually single but

Brian Atlasshe might not be so okay all right um okay yeah I mean that's pretty common um so basically lying what it's not lying it's just

Kenziedisclosing well no but if what mean if if if you say that you're single but you actually have a long-term boyfriend are you saying that's not lying no no that is I think if I was if I I think if I

Kenziewas in a relationship I wouldn't say I am single I think I would just say I I don't want to talk about it cuz I think that is kind of like another level of like disrespect to be like I'm single you know it's one thing to advertise

Brian Atlaslike you're single and it's one thing to just but if your boyfriend is involved to some degree with your production on only fans he's probably going to even tell you to say that you're single because it's going to hurt your bottom

Brian Atlasline I'm I'm not going to out any of the girls at the table but like just for the viewers watching um a lot of girls especially if they're involved in content creation or only fans um they're if they're in a relationship sometimes

Brian Atlasthey're going to be they'll say they're in a relationship especially if they're doing content with that guy on only fans um but if they're just doing solo content or just GG girl girl content uh they're going to lie and say that

Brian Atlasthey're single because it does hurt their bottom line when it comes to the Sims so um what about you um I'm single uh my last relationship was like in

KatherineDecember it was with my baby's father my longest relationship is 5 years but that was back when I was like 21 like it ended when we were when I was

Brian Atlas21 okay so you you were how long of a relationship were you in with the father of your children I

Brian Atlaswas like over a year one year year okay so uh and that ended like uh 12 months ago about a year ago um what and you

Brian Atlasjust have one kid right you have a son or daughter a daughter okay why did that end the relationship with your uh is baby daddy the term I don't yeah that's the term term it's got to be

Katherinea better term than that though it ended because there was like trust issues but also we wanted different things but overall just the foundation of our relationship wasn't really good and It

Madison Cawthornultimately ended us did you mean to have a child with him no it was just by accident but then you chose to keep it yes that's great I mean good that's that's really

Brian Atlasgood how um how old's your child she is 20 months but you said you've only been dating you only dated him for when I

Katherinefound out I was pregnant I was 9 months so then we tried to stay together okay um you know kind of after that that's when we were kind of like okay cuz even

Katherinewhen I did find out we were pregnant we were kind of like on the Rocks so our relationship wasn't really doing too good yeah and then I found out I was

Katherinepregnant so kind of more for the child we tried to make it work mhm um but things get really real when you have a baby and I think that if you guys don't

Katherinevalue the same things it's not going to work did he want the kid no like he he's a really good dad and he's involved in her life and

Katherineeverything but originally no like when we were kind of trying to make that decision that was kind of a big thing cuz he wanted me to go more towards the abortion route and then I didn't well

Katherinepraise God won that she didn't get an abortion that's F did he support you when you did keep yeah ultimately but it was kind of like something that I do feel like I had a uh stand up against

Katherineand it was something like he easily it could have intimidated me into being like okay I'm gonna do it but ultimately that was a decision I knew I did not want for myself yeah because in California you can have an abortion up

Katherineto 9 months right that's crazy um that's insane yeah and I actually did go to like plan Parenthood and everything um but it was always one of those things

Katherinewhere at first I was kind of like oh I'm uh it's a personal decision for everyone but being there I always told myself if it has a heartbeat I'm not going to do it like if I know has a

Katherineheartbeat I'm not doing it and when I was there I found out it was she was 6 weeks so I was 6 weeks and I remember the doctor was like pregnant like 9 months pregnant and she was just like

Brian Atlasokay like it was very quick very rushed and I just kind of felt like it wasn't for me so I was like you know what he's still involved in the picture yes you guys are co-parenting yes we what's the custody Arrangement 50/50 joint custody

Katherinejoint custody does he pay child support or yes okay so he's like being a dad yeah he's being a dad he's like we're within the week we probably have her split very evenly and so would you say

Madison Cawthornwhen you talked about trust issues is this like questions of him maybe cheating or is it like Financial trust yeah it was it was kind of like situations with that that started the trust issues okay here I'm going to pull up a chat we're then we'll continue on with

Brian Atlasthe relationship status Bender the offender what are the panel's thoughts on making paternity testing mandatory at Birth before the birth certificate is signed I figured I'd pull this one up now since it's somewhat topical so going

Brian Atlasaround the table what do you guys think uh do you think we should have make paternity testing mandatory at Birth before the birth certificate is signed starting with you Cindy then we'll go

Cindy Zangaround the table go ahead so basically like a test to see if they are your baby daddy if the father that you claim to be

Cindy Zangis the actual biological father yeah yeah definitely I mean you don't want to have like someone else's kid but that happens hey blueface tweeted saying that based no you're good you're good okay

Rockywhat about you I don't think it should be mandatory cuz not everybody's in that situation but it should definitely be one of the options that they give you at the beginning when you're getting tested and doing things like that so definitely they should offer that just like they

Brian Atlasoffer Plan B and stuff like that just in case definitely I and I assume that this would be so this would be at Birth this would be something you're in the hospital they would take they would take

Brian Atlasa test make sure you know probably get DNA the dad and uh yeah what about you yeah I agree about what but what you said they should offer it like they

Kenzieoffer plan B's okay uh I agree with Rocky I don't think it needs to be mandatory but I think if you're in a situation where one of the people are questioning then it should be an

Katherineoption well I mean to avoid all doubt I think it well okay go ahead I think that it should be mandatory like it wouldn't be a bad thing if it was mandatory just because it protects the mother and it

Asiacould protect the father as well and it could also hold both parties responsible and accountable so see I was going to agree with her but then she made a valid point oh I'm sorry I was going to agree with her but she made a valid point

Korea/Annaabout it being mandatory so I agree with that um yeah I think it should be mandatory because it's really not going to hurt anyone I think if anything is just going to help the family and the

Dubai guestsituation sure yeah I agree I think it should be mandatory as long as it's like free and like like covered and like what she said so okay yeah I agree too that

Madison Cawthornit should be mandatory that way that conversation doesn't even have to exist Madison what do you think I I just think I mean from a top down level I think it's really sad that our culture is at a point where we feel like we need to have

Madison Cawthornthis kind of stuff just because I mean especially you know the fact that guys are questioning if their girl has you know been sleeping with other people that's really sad but I think that's where our culture is right now I agree with that completely because where I'm

Rockycoming from and a Rel a relationship commun uh communication is number one so all of this kind of conversation and stuff like that we're going to have that way before we're having any accidents or anything like that so that's definitely something that should be discussed

Brian Atlasbeforehand anyways whether you're open or not yeah I'm I'm definitely in favor of it um and I'm actually curious what the chat thinks chat even if it cost you

Brian Atlasmoney let's say it cost you 100 bucks Chad if it cost you 100 bucks but it like it it would be done that way you'd know do the test would you do it I I

Brian Atlasmean that seems like a pretty fair tradeoff I that's a yes for me um would you one in the chat if you you're in favor of mandatory paternity

Brian Atlastesting tune the chat if you don't care and you trust you you you have trust a lot of yes how many here I think 7,000

Brian Atlassix 6,000 7,000 around 6,000 I think um um thank you chat appreciate it appreciate it so uh apparently though Madison what I've heard is and this is

Brian Atlasthe statistic is this is among people who are seeking out paternity testing when they do seek out paternity testing I think it's maybe someone in the chat can you find me the actual number but I

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