RUDE Girl INSULTS Brian?! She Is DATING 10 Men?! | Dating Talk #97

Date: 2023-09-06

Duration: 4h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMadison (SBCC)>

OOlivia (DT97)>

CCaitlin (DT97)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_03Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_04Caitlin(guest)

SPEAKER_05Olivia(guest)

SPEAKER_06Alexa(guest)

SPEAKER_07Gianna Dior(guest)

SPEAKER_08Grace(guest)

SPEAKER_09Micah(guest)

SPEAKER_10Gianna Dior(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteGianna Dior describes having ~15 AVN trophies, describes what they look like (gold, two intertwined figures)

“I have like 15 of them... it's a really heavy gold trophy and like two people intertwined it's cool”

QuoteMicah reveals she has 3 main situationships (ages 22, 30, 39) for different 'phases of her life' plus occasional side pieces

“I love having a lot of guys that I have for like different phases of my life”

QuoteGianna Dior reveals she has a roster of ~10 men; sees 7-8 of them per month; would not want to commit to any

“there's probably like around 10 on the roster right now”

QuoteGrace describes giving her ex-boyfriend two black eyes at age 19 after catching him cheating; her mother confronted her about it the next day

“yeah I was I was fired up”

ControversyMicah asks Brian if his 5-year ex 'was she ugly and fat' — sparking an extended on-air argument about rudeness

“was she ugly and fat”

ControversyBrian and Micah clash repeatedly over whether calling a woman ugly/fat is acceptable. Brian calls it rude; Micah insists it was a joke. Brian says Micah lacks 'social grace' and keeps interrupting.

OtherMicah says 'I'll leave then' when Brian tells her she's being rude

“I'll leave then because I'm just”

OtherBrian plays Trace Cyrus (Metro Station) video defending his viral tweet about sex workers and marriage

“no good-hearted man with morals wants to wife a girl who's posting her naked body online”

ControversyBrian ends show with extended monologue criticizing guests (specifically Micah and partner) who showed up late, checked phones mid-show, rolled their eyes, and left early. Said if they had just been polite about leaving it would have been fine.

“she was on her phone checked out of the conversation... you can have good debates with people but when it gets nasty and it's like I don't know”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and guest backgrounds

Guests introduce themselves: Grace (29, comedian/OF), Gianna Dior (26, pornstar/AVN winner), Alexa (30, gym GM), Madison (18, podcast staff/SBCC), Micah (23, model/OF/porn), Olivia (23, model/creator), Caitlin (23, student/bartender).

Relationship status round

Each guest describes current relationship status. Micah reveals 3 simultaneous situationships (men aged 22, 30, 39) plus side pieces; Gianna Dior describes roster of ~10 men. Brian asks about professional athletes on rosters.

Micah's 6-year relationship and move to LA

Micah describes 6yr relationship from age 16 (he was 21); lived in his family's house in Vegas; stopped being sexually attracted; cheated in final year; moved to LA and met managers at Plug Talk.

Adult content / OnlyFans and porn careers

Discussion of what got each guest into adult content, backup plans, impact on romantic prospects. Gianna Dior: got into porn via Tinder in Miami; earns enough to own a house; no need for backup plan. Micah: entered OF because an ex said she never would; porn opened doors and social connections.

Crazy ex / violent relationship stories

Guests share stories: Grace gave ex two black eyes catching him cheating (age 19). Micah car-chased an ex. Olivia took a car back from an ex. Grace nearly choked ex's side girl but let her go when she saw fear in her eyes.

Men as providers and protectors / women's expectations

Debate sparked by Micah asking 'was she ugly and fat' about Brian's 5yr ex. Brian says calling women ugly/fat is rude; Micah insists it was a joke. Extended confrontation involving the whole panel about social norms, rudeness, and whether men should defend their partners.

Physical defense / men defending women

Debate about whether a man on the roster (not a boyfriend) should physically defend a woman. Micah says she expects nothing from non-boyfriend men. Olivia says she'd expect her boyfriend to act if someone slapped her. Brian and Micah clash over what constitutes rude behavior.

Sugar daddies / financial dynamics in dating

Discussion of sugar daddy arrangements, who should pay on dates, and whether women would accept money for companionship. Gianna Dior says she'd deactivate Instagram if a man paid her full lifestyle. Brian asks if women would accept a sugar mama scenario.

Feminist identity and social media in relationships

Panel asked if they identify as feminist. Caitlin says modern feminism trends toward putting men down. Micah identifies as believing in equality but not feminism. Discussion of whether women should deactivate Instagram in committed relationships; Brian argues women keep optionality open via social media.

Who should pay on first dates

Panel debate: Micah prefers splitting to avoid feeling obligated. Olivia says the person who asked should pay. Caitlin agrees with whoever-asks rule but feels awkward accepting money on first dates.

Toxic traits in relationships

Each guest shares a toxic trait they like. Micah: attracted to emotionally unavailable men (linked to turbulent parents' relationship). Alexa: wants to be chased. Olivia: mild possessiveness. Madison: prefers healthy relationships but acknowledges possessiveness can be healthy.

Self-ratings round

Viewer (Stiffler) asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Grace: 8 (can push to 9+ styled). Gianna Dior: 7 in LA / 8-9 in Alabama. Micah: 8. Caitlin: 8.5. Alexa: 6. Brian: 6.

Trace Cyrus viral tweet on sex workers and relationships

Brian plays video of Trace Cyrus (Metro Station) defending his viral tweet saying no good man with morals wants to 'wife' an OnlyFans/porn girl. Panel debates: Grace says speaking in absolutes is too aggressive; Micah agrees with him in principle; Olivia says she sees both sides; Caitlin says men do care about past but that's their right.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasbut what is that's an I love you Madison that's an L take what if someone has a position on something they're just doing it for cloud

Madisonno I wasn't saying I'm not saying that you think the girls but you said he's doing it for cloud I know I didn't say that okay so I misunderstood my bad what she said that

Madisonshe she was just saying that he's posting these things on the internet just for clout I'm I'm just saying don't you think only fans girls who post their bodies on the internet are doing it for cloud too but so do you

MicahI agree with what he says okay okay end of discussion okay I'm gonna respect his opinion and whatnot I don't think it's I I don't yeah I mean I can respect his opinion

Micahand share a different one at the same time two truths could be Universal um but at the same time I don't think he's speaking fact it's his own opinion and he has every right to say anything about it but you know it's it's whatever

Oliviait doesn't affect me it's not any big deal for me that's just not my type then move on Down the Line live um I would say I kind of agree and

Oliviadisagree a little bit because he said multiple things but I don't think that if somebody had and only fans or porn that they are just ruined and they're just never gonna find a good man I think that there are men out there that are

Olivialike I don't care about your past like I want to be with you um a lot more men are like not okay with the current only fans in porn and I understand that too so I see both sides

Oliviabut I do not think that somebody is just never gonna find a man because she can't like had only fans before like that's kind of just a shitty way of thinking he said it himself in a statement he knows

Micahonly found girls that are really good girls like really exactly yeah so like you know at that point it's just how the men are and taking that information and what they're going to pass their judgments on and right do you think it's

Madisonright that he says like in the future it will affect your kids and things like that I think that depends on your situation for sure there's a lot of things that affect her but I'm not like

Graceyou know like screaming online like everything that's gonna affect children like there's so many things that can affect kids

CaitlinI guess in retrospect men really do care about your past and that's just I guess he's more trying to empower the men should we care about them some men yeah

Brian Atlasyes women do care about men's past I said surely and you know then so women just have zero preferences standards and boundaries for men like let's not kid ourselves women are incredible hold on women are incredibly selective over the

Brian Atlaskinds of men that they're going to date that they're gonna [ __ ] and that they're going to marry he needs to be this tall he needs to make this much money it's only upsetting when men have standards preferences and boundaries hold on the moments a guy has any sort of

Gracepreferences preference standard or boundary it's oh my God that's that's that's unacceptable that's that's discriminatory that's not what any of us just any of us said though we said that

Graceis acceptable I respect your opinion that's okay with me and I accept that like we didn't say that's unacceptable we all said that's that's perfectly fine for you to feel that way but didn't you

Alexasay why why should men care care about a woman's past she's no idea so we should care about like then like because there's a lot of men that do really dirty stuff and then they want to be in a relationship that's totally fine if you don't want to date a guy who's for

Alexawhatever reason I think everybody's different yeah if you care about that and you value it then that's fine but there's everybody's different there are people who won't care about that and they can still find a good relationship you're boxing people into one box and everybody's different there's a lot of

Brian Atlasdifferent crazy personalities just just one point of clarification when you say you're boxing people into one box are you talking about men who their preference and standard is they don't want to date a woman who's do who's done

Alexaporn or only fans is that the Box no no I'm saying he's boxing that on to one box saying that they'll never find anything and everybody's different so there's a chance that someone might not care a lot of people do and that's okay

Brian Atlasand they can care but I think I think it's hyperbole to say that women who do only fans or who do porn it's going to be impossible for them to find that's what he said yeah right he might be

Graceexaggerating there I ultimately though I I'd have to pull it back up it's just speaking in absolutes but the one subject that is way more complicated more defensible beginner absolute about

Brian Atlasthat the more defensible position is if you engage in porn or only fans or sex work it's going to be harder for you to

Brian Atlassecure a long-term relationship it's going to be harder on your children it's going to be potentially harder on your marriage

Brian Atlasyou know but the focus is specifically on on this I think it's a bit of hyperbole on his part to say it will be impossible I think he's just exaggerating to make a point I'm sure if

Brian Atlasyou were to ask him to clarify he would no no no no stop stop if you were to ask Trace hey

Brian Atlasis it do you think it would be possible for one woman who does only fans or porn to find a loving husband and have a happy family he'd probably say yes but he's speaking I I think what he's trying to get out he's using hyperbole to make

Brian Atlasa point generally speaking I would say if you do sex work if you do only things if you do adult content it's going to be harder for you you're going to shrink your pool of potential partners

Brian Atlasbecause there's just a subset of men that don't want to be involved with women that do porn and only fans and sex work and they don't want to have kids with women that do porn and only fans in sex work there's some men who are not going to have a problem with that the question

Gracethen becomes are you going to be attracted to those men there's enough people in the world that it's gonna be okay

Oliviaand that's fine I would want a man that would not be bothered I mean if you're finding a guy too but that's the thing you're only going to be it like you're only gonna attract the men that aren't

Gracegonna be bothered bothered and some of them are great yeah also like you know if I met a really great guy and he took all these boxes for me and I

Gracefelt like a spark and love and connection with him and there was something we'll like use the example you like to give like he was short or something I would be able to put put

Gracethat aside or there was something in his past maybe they like you know and and I saw that they were a different person and we had all these great things together like I would be able to put put that aside and not judge their entire

Gracecharacter based on that and maybe not everybody can do that and that's totally okay like doing only fans like I for sure am not sitting here blind like it doesn't affect my life like I understand

Gracethat and I respect that and I actually really try and understand that more like what other people's perspective is because like I care about it but like it doesn't like to speak in such

Graceabsolute like that like I'm never gonna find a man is I just think it's like aggressive and like kind of not correct well I think he said a good man

Brian Atlasbut he's saying most good men who have like say Traditional Values I know what he's saying I saw it a lot of men with those sorts of values are not going to

Brian Atlaswant to date a woman who's been involved in sex work only fans Etc trust me I'm I'm so aware it's my life oh so you have

Graceencountered difficulties finding relationship because I actually haven't um okay I haven't personally encountered that but I definitely understand that

Graceit's important for me anyone that I'm like interested or is in see or interested in or seeing me that I like check in with them how they feel about

Caitlinthat and if someone isn't like okay with that then obviously they're not the person for me sure all right we have we're moving on all right Conan 19. oh you had something really quick um yeah just really quick um I guess

Caitlinthis kind of relates to who should like who more and I think the woman should like the man more just personally I wouldn't want to attract a simp I don't think men should simp over women and but

Caitlinthat goes back to what do you have to offer besides like your looks like if they really care about your past and that's something that bothers them but but you're hot and and that's the only reason why they want to date you is

Gracebecause you're hot I but that's not your value you know you probably do have other things to offer probably yeah yeah yeah yeah of course and like I I'm I

Graceknow that like I have I do not identify as solely and only find only fans person I identify as a person like based on so many other things that's why some that's

Gracewhy so much of this [ __ ] doesn't make me feel bad you know like I like I don't feel bad about myself and I know my my value and people can argue with me about

Brian Atlasit all day Conan 19 thank you man gun range for the first date wrl go ahead oh w

Madisonthat'd be really fun that's fire W but I prefer throwing knives okay

Brian Atlasoh yeah sorry I was nodding my head okay okay all right uh Nick can you pull up the twitch really quick yo guys go to twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub um

Brian Atlaslet's see let me shout these people out yo uh Sammy thing for the prime peppers on there can you move it over pivot's thing for the prime Jennifer thanks for the tier one I might have already read these uh surro thing for the prime

Brian AtlasViking Mac thing for the prime Gian nen oh that's Neon Genesis it's like you just gave me dyslexia there the thing for the prime man much appreciated

Brian Atlasum let's see here I think we're caught up fully on chats uh after show Maddie I don't know maybe I kind of have a headache but yeah I

Brian Atlasthink I just I want to wrap up um no after show tonight guys um let me just double check one last thing here I'm gonna go those of you who are watching on Twitch guys I'm gonna host somebody

Brian Atlasum one sec let me pull up the outro here sorry guys just wanna I wanna try to host somebody on on Twitch uh so guys thank you for

Brian Atlastuning in tonight um just one kind of commentary on to tonight's show uh you know we have a lot of girls Reach Out wanting to be on show I'd say hey if you want to be on the

Brian Atlasshow DM out whatever on Instagram um ladies please do a modicum of research before messaging us it amazes me like how many people come on the show and they're like Oh I

Brian Atlasthought this was an hour it's like we've done almost 100 of these shows they're between three four five hours if that's too long for you don't come on the show don't have an issue with it but don't

Brian Atlascome on the show and then show up late we've had we've had times where where the girls show up late necessitating us to start late and then

Brian Atlasthey get all all start rolling their eyes oh the show's going long even though they requested to be on the show they're on their phones they're being rude look you want the show to end on time don't show up late it's very simple

Brian Atlasit's very simple they said oh I'll be five minutes late they're 30 minutes late okay um so if you're hungry we in the pre-show instructions we say eat a hearty meal before the show

Brian Atlasmy last meal was right before was at 2 p.m it's 9 00 p.m now um so look do a modicum of research ladies if four

Brian Atlashours is too long for you then just don't come on the show whatever it's not a big deal it's funny because if they stayed an extra 20 minutes like we were wrapping up soon anyways in any case uh and actually you know what if

Brian Atlasthey were kind of more polite about it if they just said hey we got I'm sorry we gotta get home to LA but like she was on her [ __ ] phone checked out of the conversation so you were you request to

Brian Atlasbe on the show you want to be on the show we asked you before the show don't check your phone we shouldn't even have to ask that it's just [ __ ] rude in the midst of in the middle of a conversation to be checking your phone

Brian Atlasin any case if they had just sat there politely continued with the conversation my social battery okay whatever bro um maybe you shouldn't have booked a

Brian Atlas[ __ ] porn shoot before a two-hour drive and then the four hour podcast gig I don't know what to tell you guys um okay guys last call hit the like button please on your way out thanks for

Brian Atlastuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that last thing okay last thing last thing look we've had people that need to leave and they'll politely excuse themselves or they'll stay for a little bit don't just don't be rude and be on your

Brian Atlas[ __ ] phone and having have a [ __ ] Sour Puss on your face and be rolling your eyes I I let it [ __ ] slide because we already had an argument earlier on the show I was like whatever

Brian AtlasI'm just gonna let it go but then she just okay well anyways whatever thank you to the panel that made it to the end here thank you to everyone who soup chats donates and supports the show

Brian Atlasnormally the shows are not this combative but it is what it is uh good content though isn't it I don't I don't know if it's good content but well come on

Brian AtlasNick can you scroll down or actually uh just show more of the chat um oh wait it's fine to like I like having debates with people but when it gets [ __ ] nasty and it's like I don't know sorry I think you can have good

Brian Atlasdebates with people and yeah so an activity detected Oh weird uh it's fun yeah yeah okay all right guys um thank you to Britt who's helping with

Brian Atlastimestamps uh any women who want to be on the show and who can stay for the entire show uh DM us on Instagram at whatever uh we will be live again let's

Brian Atlassee Tuesday wait is no today's Tuesday excuse me we're going to be doing a Thursday show guys it's going to be a little later it's going to be 7 P.M we have a very very a pretty big guest coming on Thursday it's going to be a good show guys

Brian Atlasum so be sure to tune into that guys we'll see you next time um have a good night Nick before you end it let me just uh any final thought okay before I end I'm gonna do a twitch raid uh I want to give anyone here an opportunity final

Madisonthought is there anything dating related you want to get off your chest before we wrap up here Liv I feel like you didn't get to speak much so if there's anything I actually had kind of like a question for lib okay

Madisonokay um you said you were thinking about

OliviaI feel like I'm doing well right now like on income pretty much so I just it could be like an extra one that I add on to in the future but

Madisonis that the only reason that you were oh yeah for right now yeah okay any final thoughts live

Brian Atlasno I'm tired all right uh okay chat do we raid so this is on Twitch Mitch Jones World of Warcraft player or bobka World of Warcraft player

Brian AtlasMitch Jones World of Warcraft or Bobcat World of Warcraft let's see is Bob cut a rogue hold on vodka I think we do vodka

Oliviawhoops hold on one sec one sec guys one sec uh I'll go wrong yeah we're gonna raid babka yeah I was gonna say there's there's non-nudity Mormon moms are in bikini

Oliviaraiding bob cuts oh rating intentions

Madisonoh Seven's in the chat 07s in the chat guys I respect that because there's a lot of people that are just like yeah

Gracewhat if I just made an only fans to like read Bible verses only and it's only Cooks like there's you know so like once that guys yeah okay

Brian Atlasyo we're raiding Bobcat all right 07's in the chat Boys 07's in chat Thursday this Thursday we're doing I know we don't do shows normally on Thursday we're doing a show on Thursday be sure

Brian Atlasto tune in uh see you on Thursday guys uh 7 P.M

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