RUDE Girl INSULTS Brian?! She Is DATING 10 Men?! | Dating Talk #97

Date: 2023-09-06

Duration: 4h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMadison (SBCC)>

OOlivia (DT97)>

CCaitlin (DT97)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_03Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_04Caitlin(guest)

SPEAKER_05Olivia(guest)

SPEAKER_06Alexa(guest)

SPEAKER_07Gianna Dior(guest)

SPEAKER_08Grace(guest)

SPEAKER_09Micah(guest)

SPEAKER_10Gianna Dior(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteGianna Dior describes having ~15 AVN trophies, describes what they look like (gold, two intertwined figures)

“I have like 15 of them... it's a really heavy gold trophy and like two people intertwined it's cool”

QuoteMicah reveals she has 3 main situationships (ages 22, 30, 39) for different 'phases of her life' plus occasional side pieces

“I love having a lot of guys that I have for like different phases of my life”

QuoteGianna Dior reveals she has a roster of ~10 men; sees 7-8 of them per month; would not want to commit to any

“there's probably like around 10 on the roster right now”

QuoteGrace describes giving her ex-boyfriend two black eyes at age 19 after catching him cheating; her mother confronted her about it the next day

“yeah I was I was fired up”

ControversyMicah asks Brian if his 5-year ex 'was she ugly and fat' — sparking an extended on-air argument about rudeness

“was she ugly and fat”

ControversyBrian and Micah clash repeatedly over whether calling a woman ugly/fat is acceptable. Brian calls it rude; Micah insists it was a joke. Brian says Micah lacks 'social grace' and keeps interrupting.

OtherMicah says 'I'll leave then' when Brian tells her she's being rude

“I'll leave then because I'm just”

OtherBrian plays Trace Cyrus (Metro Station) video defending his viral tweet about sex workers and marriage

“no good-hearted man with morals wants to wife a girl who's posting her naked body online”

ControversyBrian ends show with extended monologue criticizing guests (specifically Micah and partner) who showed up late, checked phones mid-show, rolled their eyes, and left early. Said if they had just been polite about leaving it would have been fine.

“she was on her phone checked out of the conversation... you can have good debates with people but when it gets nasty and it's like I don't know”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and guest backgrounds

Guests introduce themselves: Grace (29, comedian/OF), Gianna Dior (26, pornstar/AVN winner), Alexa (30, gym GM), Madison (18, podcast staff/SBCC), Micah (23, model/OF/porn), Olivia (23, model/creator), Caitlin (23, student/bartender).

Relationship status round

Each guest describes current relationship status. Micah reveals 3 simultaneous situationships (men aged 22, 30, 39) plus side pieces; Gianna Dior describes roster of ~10 men. Brian asks about professional athletes on rosters.

Micah's 6-year relationship and move to LA

Micah describes 6yr relationship from age 16 (he was 21); lived in his family's house in Vegas; stopped being sexually attracted; cheated in final year; moved to LA and met managers at Plug Talk.

Adult content / OnlyFans and porn careers

Discussion of what got each guest into adult content, backup plans, impact on romantic prospects. Gianna Dior: got into porn via Tinder in Miami; earns enough to own a house; no need for backup plan. Micah: entered OF because an ex said she never would; porn opened doors and social connections.

Crazy ex / violent relationship stories

Guests share stories: Grace gave ex two black eyes catching him cheating (age 19). Micah car-chased an ex. Olivia took a car back from an ex. Grace nearly choked ex's side girl but let her go when she saw fear in her eyes.

Men as providers and protectors / women's expectations

Debate sparked by Micah asking 'was she ugly and fat' about Brian's 5yr ex. Brian says calling women ugly/fat is rude; Micah insists it was a joke. Extended confrontation involving the whole panel about social norms, rudeness, and whether men should defend their partners.

Physical defense / men defending women

Debate about whether a man on the roster (not a boyfriend) should physically defend a woman. Micah says she expects nothing from non-boyfriend men. Olivia says she'd expect her boyfriend to act if someone slapped her. Brian and Micah clash over what constitutes rude behavior.

Sugar daddies / financial dynamics in dating

Discussion of sugar daddy arrangements, who should pay on dates, and whether women would accept money for companionship. Gianna Dior says she'd deactivate Instagram if a man paid her full lifestyle. Brian asks if women would accept a sugar mama scenario.

Feminist identity and social media in relationships

Panel asked if they identify as feminist. Caitlin says modern feminism trends toward putting men down. Micah identifies as believing in equality but not feminism. Discussion of whether women should deactivate Instagram in committed relationships; Brian argues women keep optionality open via social media.

Who should pay on first dates

Panel debate: Micah prefers splitting to avoid feeling obligated. Olivia says the person who asked should pay. Caitlin agrees with whoever-asks rule but feels awkward accepting money on first dates.

Toxic traits in relationships

Each guest shares a toxic trait they like. Micah: attracted to emotionally unavailable men (linked to turbulent parents' relationship). Alexa: wants to be chased. Olivia: mild possessiveness. Madison: prefers healthy relationships but acknowledges possessiveness can be healthy.

Self-ratings round

Viewer (Stiffler) asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Grace: 8 (can push to 9+ styled). Gianna Dior: 7 in LA / 8-9 in Alabama. Micah: 8. Caitlin: 8.5. Alexa: 6. Brian: 6.

Trace Cyrus viral tweet on sex workers and relationships

Brian plays video of Trace Cyrus (Metro Station) defending his viral tweet saying no good man with morals wants to 'wife' an OnlyFans/porn girl. Panel debates: Grace says speaking in absolutes is too aggressive; Micah agrees with him in principle; Olivia says she sees both sides; Caitlin says men do care about past but that's their right.

Transcript

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Gianna Dioryeah you guys were friends

Brian Atlasbut it's like why why is the expectation on men to be just always men are providers and protectors that's the number one thing and what are women um

Brian Atlasthe guys on the roster but if I'm dating someone of course you have 10 men on your roster for funsies the men the Ten Men on your roster they're providing and protecting for you

Brian Atlasoh no no no they're not that's why they're not my boyfriends that's why I know they're not my boyfriends they're on the roster if any of the hold on so do you like go out to dinner go out to like events parties clubs bars with any

Brian Atlasof the men on your roster yeah and if if a guy like made a Sly comment to you wouldn't you want your guy to confront no I don't expect that okay would you would you expect them to protect you in some sort of self-defense not unless

Gianna Diorwe're dating or something more than on the roster okay there's no way there's no way this is the defensive one now hold on I'm not I'm just we're having a conversation right now no we're just

Brian Atlashaving to relax okay Nick loves me Bobby I don't think he loves you okay you're telling me if you were out with one of your men one of the Ten Men on

Brian Atlasyour roster on the roster and they didn't defend you in some sort of situation where you needed physical defense you wouldn't end things with them I wouldn't need he was just like can I say something you wouldn't have

Gianna Diorbeen in a situation like that though I've never like been yeah that just never happened to me but also no I wouldn't expect them unless we're like dating I don't expect them to do anything for me so in some situations I I'm

Brian AtlasI'm blanking on a hypothetical I could paint here but let's just say there's some situation where you wanted him to defend you but he didn't that just

Brian Atlaswouldn't happen I wouldn't want them to defend me so if you just walked away if you just walked away you'd be cool without a real situation people get in there I've never been in that you've

Gianna Diornever been in this situation be dead ass what do you mean if a guy came at you right now you think you could [ __ ] him up I think yeah you think no we're saying if a guy yeah you're

Brian Atlasbeing no no hold on that's what I'm saying hold on you're being [ __ ] goofy right now relax okay no you're being disrespectful you're being very disrespectful you need to check it

Brian Atlascheck yourself oh I'll leave then because I'm just no you're being rude you literally say oh you think you think you think of a guy step two you wouldn't be able to take him I mean if it was something serious question yeah but what do you mean it was a serious question

Micahthat's what you're asking her a little bit how was it similar it wasn't similar no it is it is different it's well we're asking for a different perspective you're asking for her perspective but

Micahwe're in flipping the script and asking for your perspective if a guy went up to your group that's not that's not you would you do that well that's the same question you're asking her if her if the guy went up to her and disrespected her

Micahwould she expect her roster to defend her she doesn't expect that they don't have that emotional connection so it's it's a no the two scenarios you're describing are totally different okay if you want that to be that's your opinion

Brian Atlasit's for sure we'll respect it the the reverse would be if like there's not even a mirror image reverse yeah I don't think there is like the

Brian Atlasreverse would be a girl me expecting my girlfriend to physically defend me if a girl was [ __ ] with me in some way but like that's not your belief yeah but

Micahwe're asking would you defend your girl if she was not your girl defend you you were a woman

Gracerelationships even friend relationships like uh it's normal to have someone's back like if someone was messing with my friend who was like a girlfriend or just even someone I knew a family member like

GraceI feel like it's just natural if you know someone to stick up to them for to some extent my man needs to be able to fight because I'm gonna fight and then we both gotta fight if I'm

Gianna Diorfighting and you're standing there you're gone but back to like I wouldn't expect a guy on the roster to do that just because like we're friends and like whatever like I don't really have expectations for them I don't really like need them to do anything for me but

Gianna Diorif I'm dating someone then I would see where like if someone was [ __ ] with me I would expect them to say something or do something okay so that is one component of the conversation we're having we were talking about protecting and providing so you don't expect the

Gianna Diorany of the 10 men on your roster to protect you however do you expect them to provide for you no when I say protectors and providers I mean if I'm in a marriage or if I'm in like a serious relationship then they should be

Gianna Diorprotectors and providers so then on like a first date you split the bill yeah really I would yeah I would pay the entire bill I would too do you though I have many times so you okay of the men

Brian Atlason your roster you have absolutely no expectation that they pay for dates or anything not really but we don't really go on dates it's more of like hang out and [ __ ] yeah okay that's what a roster is like they're not like we're not like

Gianna Diordating in any sort of way we don't even go on dates okay we hang out or like maybe we'll go to a party or something so it's like if I'm not like cooking and cleaning for them basically then I don't

Gianna Diorexpect them to be providers protectors I think it's like if I'm not giving you anything you shouldn't give me anything sounds fair yeah it was equal okay so

Gianna DiorI'm trying to recall how we arrived at that conversation I think you asked me spending money yeah yeah you're like how much money amount of time how much money we received in a small amount of time I was

Alexalike what did I expect like within five dates or whatnot go ahead um my six year relationship was a drug dealer so I can't even count the amount of money that he spent um jewelry bags I

Alexawould go in the drawer and just steal money every day um a lot he would buy my family stuff he was great hi um you know until he went off to deep end but yeah I can't put like a certain

Madisonamount in but you spend a lot of money every day early on I feel the men that I've been with don't spend that much money on me I feel like I'm more than one to spend on them

Micahyeah um I've probably gone on dinner like dinner days that's about it but I've spent more money on my men than they've ever spent on me okay yeah I agree I haven't really had like a

Oliviaboyfriend really spend like a lot on me just mainly gifts on anniversaries and stuff yeah I could I can say the same all right

Brian Atlaslet's see here we have hold on I'm going to check if we have any chats here now we're good on that I don't have to all right so okay um have any of you ever had a sugar daddy

Gracestart with you I have not but I would like one I'm just taking applications DM's opened

Gianna Dioryeah no no never had a sugar daddy no okay what about you I had a few like when I was in college before I was like

Madisonmaking money and like they were chill I haven't really had one since then no I had them for like one day and then I

Madisonfelt bad so I was just like no I'm sorry no how much money did he give you like literally like a hundred bucks I was like I felt so much I just felt bad so I sent it back and I

Madisonwas like I was like I'm sorry I can't do this oh yes how much uh how much do you spend on you

Micahuh fifteen hundred okay what and what like was it in person dates that you had with them no no dates you would just like send you money no no no no no nothing like that you just hit me up if

Oliviayou wanted to hook up you need to hook up oh okay you're hooking up with him okay yeah what about you I've had a sugar friend because I didn't have to like do anything he lived in Texas so he

Oliviawould just virtually send me money a Splenda daddy yes yes

Brian AtlasI have not did you say you had one a long time ago long time ago okay um and what kind of arrangement was it

Gianna Diorlike would you guys meet up hook up he'd pay you money or yeah it was almost like hooking basically but I didn't know at the time escorting basically well I did

Gianna Diorsee them multiple times so like it was an ongoing thing but yeah like we would just meet up they would pay me a little bit and then [ __ ] and like maybe would hang out a little bit and then how's that

Gianna Diorbut it was like ongoing arrangements so it wasn't like a one-time hooking that's why I don't think it was hooking maybe it is but

Gracemaybe it is alleged allegedly and you said you had one right I did not say but I said I mean I wouldn't mind having one you don't get offers though

Graceum I kind of I just feel like it's like a lot of work and I don't know if I'm prepared to give out the amount of sugar that I think they might expect yeah true

Graceit is a lot of work yeah yeah Okay and like um like physically and emotionally you know I I just don't feel like I have the capacity for that

Gracebut if a man just wanted to send me a bunch of money to like have me text him a couple times a week I would absolutely accept that there are people like that I

Gracethink that's just only goes kind of like mine yeah only fancy right which is I already do that all right we have uh let me see here one

Gracesec guys can I ask you something yeah um if a lady wanted to like send you money for you like talk to her would you accept it how would you feel about

Brian Atlashaving a sugar mama situation um depends how much money like what she just wants to [ __ ] talk I'd doesn't seem like a bad I'm real does it I'm pretty busy so I don't know if I I'd

Brian Atlashave to be a decent amount of money for it to be worth it for me you know what you're doing I I guess but I feel like most there's definitely certainly there's more sugar daddies than there

Brian Atlasare sugar mamas like I feel most women don't really move that way most women don't want to spend money in that way yeah

Brian Atlasthere are there's there definitely are sugar mamas out there but it's got to be I don't know what the ratio must be but it's for sure dwarfed by the

Brian Atlasinsane amount of and well insane it's insanely more amount of sugar daddies that there are so let's see question for

Brian Atlasthe panel so hold on I lost it so have you ever made a guy wait for sex who you saw long-term potential in

Brian Atlaswhile you had a [ __ ] buddy or friends with benefits or casual [Music]

Graceso there's never like I've definitely like took time before having sex with someone that I'm talking to but not while I'm seeing someone else

Brian Atlasso not while I have a friends with benefits or anything like that here's here's the scenario right so let's say you have a friends with benefits you don't really see like a long-term thing but you're continuing to hook up

Brian Atlaswith your friends with benefits [ __ ] buddy whatever all the while since there you don't really see long-term potential with this person you are out there dating and you are dating a guy

Brian Atlasand maybe you like him but you're making him wait for sex all the while you're hooking up with some with your [ __ ] buddy or friends with benefits the answer to that is no nothing

GraceI used to like wait to have sex with guys to try and like have some sort of preservation that I probably like shouldn't be because like I thought it

Gracesomehow like affected my value so I'd like wanna wait to sleep with them but I that was when I was younger and I wouldn't say move like that anymore

Brian Atlascan you repeat the question I didn't get it it was like a two-parter okay you have a [ __ ] buddy that you're sleeping with and then you're also dating have you ever been sleeping with

Brian Atlassomebody and then been dating somebody but you're making that person wait for sex no okay so like first night the guy I dated for

Gianna Diorsix years we [ __ ] on the first night okay what about you yeah I typically never you don't wait for sex because I think it's like an important thing where it's like if you suck at sex great I just

Alexawasted however many dates I'm like I'm not gonna see you again yeah I feel the same way I'm like we're all grown you know you don't have to wait I mean if you want to that's totally fine but I feel like you need to know what you're dealing with because if

Alexayou wait and you can't put it down exactly yeah you gotta go exactly so first first night uh it doesn't it depends it just if it feels right but I like I said I think we're all grown here so personally I don't think that's a big

Brian Atlasdeal if you really feel like you want to do it yeah but so the the question is though like have you ever made a guy wait while you were hooking up with another guy no no okay what about you no nothing

Oliviaokay that's a very like yeah yeah it happens people do that

CaitlinI guess I've always just stated um one person but um yeah I agree with you you're grown like if you're seriously interested in someone you don't need to make them leave for sex like yeah it doesn't make sense yeah you you should you should

Caitlinknow right away if that's the one you want to pursue or if they're they're keeping you in the hookup only right then that's your choice if you want to hook up with them and Caitlyn before the show you provided some

Brian Atlaspre-show notes to us and you so you said your current relationship uh your boyfriend is 37 so he's what 14 years your senior correct okay and uh we were

Brian Atlaskind of talking a little bit about age Gap relationships but since your boyfriend he's 37 you're 23. um what does everybody here think about age Gap relationships cool with it not

Brian Atlasmaybe an issue with it if it's too much of a gap what do you guys think so while we we'll come we'll leave you to the end and we'll start with you um I think once like people mature to a

Gracecertain age um at age Gap becomes less important so if you're 27 and you're dating someone 37 just for example

Graceum there's not as much room for like taking advantage of someone who's like vulnerable and might not have as much life experience as if someone's like 17

Graceand 37. so I think past a certain age it becomes less less relevant but obviously if it's someone who's still a child and they're they're they haven't developed

Graceproperly then if there's it can be inappropriate because it's an unfair power like dynamic yeah the age of consent is yeah and of course like there's laws and stuff like that which

Gianna Diorshould people should take seriously as long as you're over 18 I don't think it matters yeah I don't really see an issue unless

Madisonyou're a minor and you're dating older yeah I feel the same way honestly I yeah as long as it's not weird as long it's not weird but also like if

Madisonyou're dating to actually settle down with the guy make sure you're in the right maturity level as time in the same head space as him but I'm not opposed to that

Micahum I'm more of like I feel like it's like life stages at that point like I feel like if people are over 25 it's like they're in a different life stage with people under 25 that's still College it's still like all that like young stuff so I just feel like

Micahdifferent life stages calls for different situations and different interests and whatnot so I just feel like it's it's kind of important to notice that oh I'm in college I just graduated high school and you've been in college about to graduate college so

Micahyou're moving on to a different stage of your life I'm just entering this one so I just think it's important to acknowledge the different stages of everyone's life

Oliviaum yeah so my parents have a oh wait did we did you get to answer it um I would say it doesn't matter as long as you're not a minor either because that's really gross and my ex cheated on

Caitlinme with the minor so I agree that it's gross oh my God she wrote high schooler by the way I know you've had a lot of talk about [ __ ] okay yeah girls yeah in the world that is a shocker absolutely a problem not even

Caitlinum debatable but um yeah I have great parents they're 10 years apart um yeah I wouldn't say that my man and I have a lot in common but like we have similar interests but like that's the whole point is that um

Caitlinhe's gonna hang out with his boys like that's who he has a lot in common they don't offer him the same thing that I do so um yeah how did you all meet like a dating app or

Caitlinum I would credit Instagram because we have mutual followers um close friends so I would have no idea who he was if I didn't get a follow from

Brian Atlashim and see his Instagram okay we have a chat here from Doc venables Rara so your totally normal household let you date a 21 year old when you were 16 do you really expect us to believe that was a normal situation enabling statutory

Micahgrape is still illegal you owe yourself intellectual honesty do you have a response to Dr Annapolis he was a really good guy he took really good care of me I don't think it was creepy at all

MicahI graduated high school at 17 I moved out at 7 what's one year difference if I'm gonna be honest okay we have been through the offender ladies whose needs and wants should be

Brian Atlasprioritized first when in a relationship the man's or the women women's well if the man is broke then you think equal I don't think that anyone should be prioritized

Gracethink you want to have a healthy relationship it's give and take both people should be sacrificing it equally

Alexaum I don't know my grandma told me you always have to date a man that loves you a little more than you love him that's the only way that works out and I truly believe that I feel like only a man would ask that question

Alexait's I I think that's the reason I think it has to be the reverse for you no in general I think the girl has to like the guy more that never works out for them but you're not in charge of everybody so it doesn't really work out it never

Micahworks out yeah that's how they achieve disagree they get so comfortable and the relationship becomes boring stagnant live

Madisonum I would agree just both of them I'd agree both but in reality it's the woman's like that's the only way it's really gonna the woman's what needs wants and needs

Madisonwants and needs should be prioritized I'm not saying it should be prioritized I'm just saying like generally in relationships that women have more once and need exactly they also wants a need so it's only going to be successful it's

Brian Atlaslike please don't have that money so it's ladies whose needs and wants should be prioritized first when in a relationship the man's or the women's I'm gonna go ahead and say the

Caitlinman's just because I guess my life is fairly easy

Caitlinum I'm not talking like financially like I get a lot of money like I work um I go to school but um yeah he's working a lot of hours every single day um and I kind of just go to school and

Caitlinbartend on the weekends have my money I live rent free at home so I guess it's my job to like really with your parents yeah yeah I do live at home um so I guess it's my job to like make him happy

Brian Atlasbecause I'm not really stressed out I don't have anything weird enough okay your job wait but how his needs should be meant like you don't you don't live

Brian Atlaswith your boyfriend no okay okay got it what what do you guys talking about here nothing go ahead nothing I don't know there's been a little

MicahWhispering back and forth between you two can I say something or am I gonna yell that I feel like when you're having a debate with someone I've been on a lot of podcasts in my life even debates with friends you start making jokes you start

Micah[ __ ] with the other person and you took it and then you came at me so crazy that it like ruins the dynamic of like having like a funny you gotta speak into the mic they can hear me by the way I've seen a

Gianna Diorbunch of your podcasts on my for you page when people are far away you can hear it okay that's just we're just go ahead I know okay so what I'm just saying when you're like going back and forth and like debating you're like [ __ ] with one another you're like saying your [ __ ] back and forth and then

Micahyou take it one way and then you like make it all serious it just like kills the vibe of like everyone having like a fun good time and like joking around making debates when you like spin it in like a way you like spun it to make it like weird and it wasn't weird it was

Gianna Diorlike when you're I've been on so many podcasts even just debates with friends then you start taking it personally I just gave an example of podcasts and then I also gave the example of friends and then you start taking it personally

Micahand then make it weird and all serious it was like nothing serious like why did you make it into something where you had to like kill the vibe like it was like having you feel the vibe okay so you did and it was fun and we were joking around and I was just like it's not fun anymore it was fun going into it are you gonna

Brian Atlaslet me respond okay so this is precisely what zero accountability looks like first off we don't have the level of Rapport for the jokes that you made to be appropriate in

Brian Atlasmy view perhaps you have a different sense of what you can say to somebody that you've never met before and you don't know the two things you said were I was talking about the relationship

Brian Atlaswith my ex-girlfriend and you know I was kind of I revealed a couple details we hadn't lived together I you know I wasn't like bought her dinner once or

Brian Atlastwice a couple times five years and and you said oh she must be ugly she must be fat was she oh well that's kind of okay so I don't I don't see can I say

Brian Atlassomething no hold on so that's kind of a semantic thing there you essentially said she must be ugly I said was she ugly that you was she fat

Micahyou said I said fatty was she a fatty okay and I stand by that that's kind of rude it was a joke by the way let's all was it what was the joke if you're dating girl for five years and you only

Brian Atlasbuy her dinner twice in five years wouldn't she I mean wouldn't the funny joke be that she's actually thin because she's emaciated because I'm not buying her food I think that's funny also that that could be another joke there you

Brian Atlashave I like that joke yeah in any case I don't see how it to me it seems a little vulgar to to call oh your ex must be ugly and fat I'm a very where's the joke

Brian Atlasbut explain to the joke to me I just explained it it was funny okay you think I'm funny or what the [ __ ] okay okay look um and then the other thing you said was

Brian Atlaswe were talking about a scenario with her where if there's some disrespect or something you wouldn't expect your guy to protect you in some sort of scenario and then you're like no I what I started

Gianna Dioroff with was I've never been in a situation like that have you you said no everyone else here said no and I was like when is this even like a real situation that we get put in and then I said have you been in a situation like

Gianna Diorthat what do you mean what did I stutter what do you mean like did you guys like have your questions

Brian Atlasnone of you have been witness to a violent situation I have I have but I've never been in a situation like that with my partner also can I speak now is it related to uh yes okay no it's not

Graceyeah um well you said you guys don't have the Rapport for her to be saying those things to you but just from my perspective you were like being accusatory and making presumptions about

Gracethem as well give me an example you were saying you probably don't cook and clean huh and when I said I don't have a sugar daddy you looked at me like

Gracecome on you don't so my perspective and I would actually be curious to hear what everyone else thinks it seems like this the same thing

Brian Atlasit's actually it's kind of not I feel like the first time

Madisoninterruptive oh I'm not saying what go ahead were you saying it's rude when people interrupt yeah

Graceare you talking about him are you talking to us to basically okay perfect so we're okay I mean I was just told I wasn't allowed to speak as well so it's because they were having a

Caitlinconversation though you did ask so it was a yes or no question and then he let you talk after okay well my bad then okay

Brian Atlasso are we good what do you mean I'll know you're the one who I have a report yeah look

Micahwe just in my view in my view you were being rude and I told you to stop and I I respect that and I apologize if you think I was rude it's not that I think you were rude

Brian Atlasyou were rude that's your opinion it's not an opinion that's an opinion what's the cooking I think I think if I think if you were real hot Dave I think questioning whether she doesn't

Micahshe doesn't cook or clean for her especially and that's like zero accountability in your girl it's just like it's it's all opinions let's all be chill let's all have nice debates

Brian Atlaswithout getting what is what okay so let's we can go into the whole like oh Brian I and then you said I could probably take you Brian because it's a joke get the joke get the bit but but what what are you what are what's the underlying communication that you're

Micahtrying to say there what are you trying to say when you're implying that we can't cook and clean you don't know us it's all jokes we're all just making jokes here for Content let's all move on let's like make our content and have a

Brian Atlasgood time and without getting so serious but okay there's obviously scales can you stop interrupting there's obviously scales to it right so me questioning whether she cooks or cleans for her

Brian Atlasroster of 10 men is a little different than you ad hominem attacking my ex-girlfriend for uh calling I didn't attack her I attacked you by you not buying you bought her two

Brian Atlasdinners in five years no no no no I'm not we're not talking about that we're talking about you saying that she must be ugly she must be a fatty roll the clip back I never said must I said it

Brian Atlasdoesn't matter that that's you're Shifting the goal post here did you say ugly and fatty that's the set forget the boss and I stand by that

Micahdon't you think that's rude to say about somebody I think it's a funny joke and you said the thing about serving would you say that to someone's face what do you mean would you say to a girlfriend I'm saying that to your face was your girlfriend an ugly or a family

Brian Atlaswhy you only bought her two meals in five years I don't I don't see the connection between the the frequency with which I buy a woman meals and her physical attractiveness and her weight

Micahone thing about me I make a lot of jokes so why am I here if I can't crack my jokes it's because I'll [ __ ] leave like it's just like I'm trying to have a good time and you're making it so serious I like to crack jokes I want to

Brian Atlasmake jokes it was a joke it wasn't meant to be that serious what's but okay I'm not gonna explain why it was a joke to me it's a joke you can't just defend sayings hold on can you stop interrupting can you stop

Micahinterrupting you've you've asked to have a conversation about it can you stop stop interrupting you keep dragging on the same question I'm not dragging on the same question it was a joke to me I'm asking you to stop

Brian Atlasinterrupting okay allow me to finish my point I let you speak let me finish my point and then you can come in okay so I failed to see how just attacking someone I failed to see the joke

Gianna DiorI would like to open it up to the table yeah to me it's an opinion okay but here's the thing here's the thing I'll get to you in a sec

MicahI said it's a joke to me that's my opinion we all have opinions here it's America I'm allowed to make an opinion and make a joke sure thanks sure can we

Brian Atlasmove on no I'm gonna let me you can't just initiate an argument and then just be like okay now we're moving on yeah it's my show I'll finish my point and maybe we can move on but you're being

Brian Atlasreally rude now I'm not being rude yes you're you're trying to dictate the flow of the show on my show we're going to continue talking about it I'm going to make my point and then I take the flow you need

Brian Atlasto stop [ __ ] interrupting why do you keep interrupting chill out okay Jesus Christ look I don't like this whole thing of like people saying really mean things about other people and just being like Oh it's

Brian Atlasa joke if that's mean to you then you got to get tougher skin because I we're on the internet we we get ripped apart the shreds you gotta let me ask the girls here at the table if someone to your face

Brian Atlasme wrong you keep interrupting it's very rude you think it's rude that I'm yelling you keep interrupting stop oh my God you've just you you do not have the social Grace to just stop interrupting

Brian Atlasare you not interrupting me I'd like to ask the girls here at the table if someone to your face called you ugly is that a joke I would probably just laugh because I know I'm not but is it a

Micahjoke yeah I'm not gonna take anyone's opinion seriously I mean why would I take anyone to pay to pin my parents seriously like why would

MicahI and I think that if you do take it if you do it look for to me it sounds like that you're expecting us to get hurt over people's opinions of us and that's just not us if someone's calling us ugly

MicahI guess we're ugly to that that's their opinion example of why women get treated like children I don't think women get treated if someone called you ugly

Madisonthank you would you would you view it as a joke I get told that every day yeah on the internet it doesn't mean roll back the chat roll back the chat

Madisoneither way it's offensive especially when you're talking about someone that you don't even know

TTS/DonationsI don't really see them donated 100 if someone like streets you are Kurt confrontational and you carry your life trauma heavier than your makeup your

TTS/Donationsunattractive inside and out Brian has a podcast to run you don't recognize masculinity because your father is weak and a failure is that just a joke that's kind of a joke because her dad is

Brian Atlasa very nice man and not weak or failure I think that's a joke but if you're perhaps be appropriate for someone to be upset at what he said about your father

Gianna Diorcan I be honest I've went in one ear out the other I'm gonna sleep great at night that [ __ ] like that one really bother me that doesn't bother me because I know who I am I know who my dad is that [ __ ] doesn't bother me I'm a very secure

Graceperson thank you and I like wearing makeup so I feel like since we're all subjecting ourselves to this and criticism we

Graceshould have like the wherewithal to not like take it offensively or to Heart and also a question you're getting

Gracereally defensive over this though was she ugly or a fatty because was that just wondering I think you already specified no I've I've repeated I've

Gianna Diorrepeatedly said she wasn't go ahead I tried to move on from this let's get a picture five minutes ago can we get a picture I try to move on from this topic I said let this topic go five minutes it's not your podcast

Brian Atlasthere's no point in being mad about it no I said meta we've already discussed it I there's you think it's a joke I

Brian Atlasdon't end of that's the end of story I'll agree to disagree so we can move on that's what I think is best in any case though I failed to see how it's a joke

Brian Atlasand I'll leave it at that you think it's perfectly within the normal social graces to just call people fat and ugly if that's your standard of conduct then

Brian AtlasI suppose that's your standard of conduct but it's not mine and perhaps it seems like the other girls at the table here who want to defend her also think it's uh a normal standard of conduct to

Brian Atlasjust call people who you don't know ugly and fatties I I think you're really just Desiring to defend her because she's on your team I actually don't think that that's your standard I think that's [ __ ] anyways we're going to move on that's what zero accountability

Gracelooks like what do you mean zero accountability like you can't see in any type of way like even a sliver of her perspective

Gracewhat do you mean I'm sorry like you are choosing to think that she's just doing that and saying that because it fits your narrative

Graceinstead of actually listening to her and taking what she says as what she says because she's not agreeing with I find

Brian Atlasit incredibly difficult to believe that you or most women would think that it's just a joke to call a woman

Brian Atlasugly or a fatty I'm sorry if I'm a bit uh skeptical of the assertion that that's just like within the normal social do you think we're operating

Gianna Diorright now in a normal social like way this isn't I think it's we're not all at a bar where we are called ugly and found on the internet every single day so you kind of have to get over it you really took that as being dead serious then I'm gonna leave if you don't understand that

Gianna Diorthat was a [ __ ] joke if we can play The Cliff back that that was a joke I said that was one of the things so I'm saying it's like if you literally in you don't understand that when I said that it was a [ __ ] joke and if you don't

Gianna Diorget that then I'm out like if you like this is like I can't have this conversation anymore it's so [ __ ] stupid desensitized because it's like people call some crazy [ __ ] on the internet like every single day like people have

Brian Atlassaid some really mean things and like it's first yeah yes the internet is toxic or right now though we're face to face [ __ ] that people will say anonymously on the internet would never

Gianna Dior[ __ ] fly in person and you know that I mean if we were like in a full-on argument and like you called me ugly or fat yeah but if you're just like jokingly we're like yeah you're ugly and fat I wouldn't even like think twice about it just because it's like

Brian AtlasI don't know I don't really I fail to see what the joke is though that's that's where I'm still stuck I failed to see like usually there's in a joke there's a punch line there's some like I'm failing to see the joke well like there's different perspectives of like

Brian Atlaslike I can't for example if I just walked up to a randomly if I walked up to a random woman in the street and I just said you're ugly and a fatty just joking just [ __ ] joking

Micahbecause I think I understand it and that's your problem you no one's not explaining this joke to you in the way you can like clarify it different people have different senses of humor so that's not my sense of humor what I mean that's I wouldn't go up to a random woman and

Gianna Diorcall her ugly or fat that's not funny to me that wasn't a joke that was in the bed so calling a woman who you I never said that in my area I never said that never said someone came up to me and said you're fat and ugly and said I was just joking I would think that was funny

Brian Atlasjust because like what are you even talking about even if they weren't joking I would think that would be kind of funny because like most people wouldn't but most people I wouldn't say most people wouldn't most people wouldn't I agree okay did you want to explain it yeah I'll explain it to you

Micahso your guys's whole conversation literally was like you took her out to eat like twice or whatever like whatever and then she said that that was a joke so when you connect it and you want to go deeper into it you're placing like

Micahtypically in our society men who are proud like men who have women they're going out spending lunch like going out to dinner all the time so if you're only going like like once or twice not a lot

TTS/Donationsthen of course it's gonna be like so why isn't it intentionally or not a healthy mature person would have apologized joke or not

Brian Atlasyeah but when you say that you're apologizing for his actions not your own I'm sorry it's like I'm sorry that you feel that way yeah it's not really an apology I don't

Brian Atlaslook I don't need an apology but the the subsequent comment was like oh Brian you think you'd be able to take I'd probably [ __ ] you up it's just like okay bro it's again I don't think we have that level

Oliviaof rapport that's it anyways the TTS interrupted you you know I'm all good I'm all good she was saying if you 've only taken the woman out like two times and you don't want to show her

Oliviaoff she was asking like you're fat like to you because maybe she wasn't maybe you she was asking like she is she ugly or fat because you haven't taken her out I guess because I think that's what you were I've had this conversation with most women before and

Micahthey go up to their other guys and they're like well do you have you taken her out to dinner like oh once or twice and they're like well is she ugly like why aren't you taking her out more it's like this is a normal conversation that men have like that I've been a part of

Micahyeah so like it's like a common story yeah exactly I think that's where you get to the joke yeah that's where you get to the joke so if you're not understanding that part

Brian Atlasthen of course you're gonna get offended you know so the joke is that because she she could be unattractive that I don't want to be seen in public with her is

Micahthat I think the joke is not like mango kind of men say that and like men have that kind of yeah I've heard men talking about it too I know what you're saying I've been in those conversations

Micahand I've been in like position of like what why what that doesn't make sense to me and they're like well we like to like show off our girls whatever yeah like the more if they're pretty or whatever they'll spend more money on them they'll take them out more they want to show them off they want to make sure all the

Micahother men know who they're tapping all that stuff so if you're like not going out in public you're not showering with her all this stuff there's gonna be so little like so what's going on like is he not like you know is she and all that

Brian Atlasattractive is he not that attracted like it's gonna be something there's gonna be a little thing to think about okay so that's one component of it truthfully though the big blow up that occurred

Brian Atlashappened after the comment about was it fighting honestly I kind of glanced to some degree over the

Brian Atlasugly and fatty comment all right we have some chats here we have uh let's see puffy Vegas I'm a 49 and I'm going to

Brian Atlastell you women in their 20s don't care about age PS I never bought a woman anything okay there you have it uh see see this is what this guy knows what he's doing he's he's 49.

Gianna Diornever bought a woman anything he knows he married or in a relationship and he's 49 and he's watching a live video

Brian Atlasif you know who puffy Vegas was he is one of the preeminent Giga Chads in Las Vegas okay we have hard body first two

Brian Atlaschicks aren't adding anything of value and dumb as [ __ ] kick them too whole chat wants at least blondes gone personal for the first chick uh and we'll try to move on we'll see okay

Brian Atlaspuffy Vegas I'm 100 on Brian's side Blondie was mean and you're protecting her and are all my protect you are protecting her are all are full of BS because if you

Brian Atlassaw a hot guy and he called you ugly all of you would cry IPS Blondie's mid okay we have Sloan fideli have a roster of super hot young women in but he just called you but he just called her mid

Graceokay isn't that like it's just a joke though right right I'm just saying exactly that's what I'm saying like you didn't matter you did it you didn't battle eyelash at that you didn't you

Gracedidn't even bought an eyelash at that yeah it defends herself if if you want to say it's a joke I just feel like this was a perfect if you want to say an example of exactly what you were talking

Graceabout if you want to say something to puffy Vegas if you want to uh puffy Vegas we don't care okay that's fun it just doesn't agree with you but it's doing the same thing it's kind of like

Gracepractical I'm not co-signing on his statement no I'm I'm not saying that you are I'm just saying he is agreeing with you that it what that he thinks it's rude and inappropriate for her to say

Graceshe's fan ugly and then called her mid yeah and then called her mid so he's doing the same thing that he agreed with you that he doesn't think is appropriate so it's just kind of hypocritical

Brian Atlasokay so would you not agree would you not agree is it could it be hypocritical it's a bit too Coco what's that I feel like it's pretty cut and dry yeah

Brian Atlasfallacy okay in any case um so you wouldn't you wouldn't agree or you would agree mid is not nearly as insulting as ugly and fatty that's your opinion

Brian Atlasthough to you what it means you're like a fox

Madisonthis girl argues to argue that's what we're saying you can find things as an intense insult so just don't say them you think mid is worse than uglies

Micahinto my mouth is what's happening I'm literally saying that some people like other people not me could find mid to be insulted I don't of course

Brian Atlasugly and hideous you know like both are derogatory on someone being less attractive off the rails today okay so I just don't think I don't think mid is as I'm not saying it's a nice thing to say

Graceto somebody but it's not as bad as it would you ugly it's a derogatory comment on someone's appearance it could be a little insulting yeah right it could be a little interesting but if they're actually mid hey Focus

Brian Atlasman it's cool when you do it it's a problem when I do it it's okay whatever okay Sloan I have a roster of super hot young women in I

Brian Atlasassume the Dominican Republic for 20 years they are mature I'm 61. I don't know your thumbnail doesn't you know okay fit and Wealthy I know this guy I would

Brian Atlasnever deal with USA 25 year olds uh they can't even make my morning coffee without drama never get married based never get married gentlemen never get married

Brian Atlastake it from her father with the five her father in support of my father in support okay in support I mean you even said marriage

Alexais an l it's cool well you didn't literally say yeah I don't think that I just in my opinion I wouldn't probably get married we have puffy Vegas I grew up with nothing but Chad and Tyra everywhere this is tipping the dog spend

Brian Atlasmoney we have never had a conversation like that is insane men don't talk like that we talked about did you hit it or not I've been dating since I was 12. you

Gianna Diorhave no idea what you're talking damn you're 12 and dating people I think you're at the issue you're the problem I think you're the problem speaking through trauma puffy puffy

Brian AtlasVegas is one of the biggest Giga Chads in Las Vegas what is does that mean good for him I don't really care he is a [ __ ] Giga Chad okay let's see we're all caught up on the chats here I'll know where we left off in the

Brian Atlasconversation we'll move on um total to railment but uh okay we have Caitlyn here uh you know what I'll let me reel you back in here no no no no we're not We're not

Brian Atlasgonna talk We're not gonna we're not we're moving on from the thing uh in your pre-show information here I'm trying to reel you in back into the convo you said uh traditional mindset that women shh I was

Brian Atlasa little semi-confused exactly what you meant but you said uh women shouldn't be working and shouldn't have equal rights so I was just confused are you in favor

Gianna Diorare you in favor or are you against no I'm just trying to I'm trying to it's not what I meant I think it's kind of cool oh is that you sorry sorry when we put in saying we

Gianna Diorwant to do this it was both like us wanting to do it should we shake hands they're made of super mad all right I think it goes back

Gianna Diorto just like our mindset of thinking men are providers and protectors I think we have a very like traditional mindset where it's like modern society has ruined I don't know if women shouldn't have rights like if it took away my

Gianna Diorright to work have a job and you took away my voting rights whatever that's kind of like what I stand for I don't know like my family is very traditional and like that she's reminded of how I grew up yeah like my family's very

Gianna Diorconcerned about Michael old school yeah so I think that's just like ingrained in my brain we're like men are providers and protectors and women don't work and like wait so repeal the 19th yeah

Micahtake away our rights like I don't care because what do you think of that that's your name right is it no it's not it's Micah it's like the rock or you know the character in the Bible what what do you

Micahthink about that oh what sorry I was taking away a woman's room I mean I I wouldn't but you know that's her opinion I guess I was

Gianna DiorI just don't think women deserve right women don't deserve so real like if you took away my rights it's fine like I I don't think it would have really affect my life that much to

Gianna Diorwhere like I don't know it might basically oh it's a hot take I'm aware that that's a very hot take so okay you you want to repeal

Gianna Diorthe 19. now you got them on your side yeah I mean back on your side for myself yes I would agree that most women don't

Gianna Diorthink that way but I personally think that way I don't think I deserve rights

Brian Atlaswhy why is that why don't you or other women deserve rights wow you're such a misogynist wow I will say I'm more on like a misogynistic mindset than a

Gianna Diorfeminist mindset where like I think the woman's job is to cook and clean that's why when you ask me not I was like yeah okay 100 I hurt you I was being so I'm sorry I'm very sorry yeah I apologize so

Gianna DiorI think men are providers protectors women stay at home take care of kids cook clean that's like kind of how life was for a long time yeah and so I stick by that okay

Brian AtlasI don't know I'm aware so who here just like show fans who here and I'm not co-signing on this because reasons who here wants thinks we should repeal the 19th Amendment like show of

Brian Atlashands nobody raise it yo raise it higher don't come

Caitlinon but she's got goodness you cooked yeah [Laughter]

Gianna DiorI don't know I'm aware that like most women would probably not agree with that and like I don't know would it be on my penis I mean like I feel like I already do have so many

Graceresponsibilities if you want to take away one like it wouldn't be so mad like what are other writings so hard to want to vote with the government anyway it's like what's going

Gianna Dioron there you know I feel like we're missing one like what's another right that women didn't used to have the right to work where to go that one working voting what are other ones

Brian Atlaslike nothing that really affects me so just get rid of them do what you do right now what do you what are you two here in the corner think about think about that um

Oliviayeah I would not say like take away our rights but I mean I see I'm not gonna diss you for thinking that but I I do like being independent I like being able to do my thing she wants to take away

Gianna Dioryour right to vote not hers I mean right now the both the options are pretty bad so I would never say like hey take away her rights like I would

Caitlinnever like sign on something that said take away women's rights I just think personally I don't deserve right um I would argue that I mean I've never done anything crazy but if someone has to make a decision for me I'd probably

Caitlinleave it up to my dad or my husband like a man I wouldn't go extreme

Gianna Diorif you're a single woman yeah if he tells me to do anything I'm just like all right but like I'm saying that is like someone who like I make my own money so it's like if I'm saying that

Gianna Diorit's like I really would you go to war would I go to warp yeah no no I don't think women should be in the military I don't think I go to war every day of my life but I also don't believe in Wars so

Brian Atlasit's like I don't think anyone should be going to war but wait you go to war I go to war every single day of my life life how what do you what do you mean just taking like [ __ ] pics or what are we talking about

Graceum I was just kind of joking because life is Life and Times it can feel like a bad ongoing battle it's I wasn't being serious I'm not

Gracegetting shipped out and mentally fighting in camel with the AK but I'm just joking so it's like sometimes you

Graceknow sometimes The Game of Life can feel like a war like yourself you give me you understand

Brian AtlasI think I kind of get it so you're saying like your your war is having to like constantly be uploading nude photographs to only fans I get it

Gianna Diorlike it's hard to click the buttons on the computer that's me 24 7. that was the very backhanded thing to say I guess I know you're joking here I thought we were okay

Brian Atlasbecause yeah like we click buttons we kissed we made we made up it's all good but like that was a joke yeah I I promise she still probably hates me but

GraceI don't know we're homies again it takes a lot to get me you could pretty much say anything to me and I promise you I can take it yeah I can take it wait you sure about that I can

Graceyeah challenge accepted I can't let me say it one more time I'm just kidding baby

Gianna Diorwomen's right yeah I would never be like hey take away all women's rights just like for me I'm like I don't like I agree that other women don't think that way so I would never be

Gianna Diorlike hey take away all women's rights because I would say most women don't think that way so I'd be like I don't for me take away take away herself I mean they're already taking away some

Brian Atlasright now she just did you should tell us how you really feel though well no I know you're saying like take away your rights but I feel like you really mean like deep down you really want to just take away women's rights no because I

Gianna Diorthink most women have like a like I don't know they have a mindset where it's like okay we have the right to work and to vote whatever and like I feel like women protect that

Gianna Diorme I don't really care but I'm aware that most women do enjoy those rights so I would never be like hey take away their rights I'm just saying I don't really just you

Brian Atlaswant yours you could just relinquish your American citizenship and then I suppose that'd be one way to lose your you can do that that's a good point yeah you can move to Northway you can do that

Brian Atlasyeah you can uh where do they put you I forgot what it's called well you'd have to find another place to live uh what's the what's the term called for

Brian Atlasemancipation no there's a term for oh that's when you're a kid how do you guys what's the term for like abandoning your citizenship in the chat no not sovereign renouncing citizenship

Brian AtlasI think oh to renounce citizenship okay we have some chats here we have 19 has Society improved since women

Gianna Diorentered the workforce and started voting no wow okay she's just going full Society has improved I don't really know like when but I

TTS/Donationswasn't around the workforce and starting voting I think with just Society becoming more modern and technology which way a little more Bender the offender donated 99

TTS/Donationsher brain cells go to war against the Xanax is she popping the word to you that's to you of course it is

GraceI didn't take any Xanax gang I don't know anything every time you know what's so funny every single time I go on something

Gracepeople always think that I'm like drunk or I'm high or something that's just how you are I'm yeah this is you like they think this cup is full like straight booze or something but I'm kind of just

Gracelike this however I did consider taking it edible before I came on here but I did not get around to that ah okay yeah what do you should I next time you think

Brian Atlasmaybe yes like we'd like to see you all right I can do that on Edibles we have

Brian Atlasoh wait we did this one okay uh do two on the way on way on in this one

MicahSociety has improved in ways of just like modern technology and that aspect but I think dating has gone backwards I mean I would say like all of the content

Gracewebsites like we run that [ __ ] yeah so in that way but in that way yeah really I mean we run it but it wouldn't it yeah

Gianna Diorsometimes like we are the like main source of Honor yeah Society in general the top five richest people in the world are men so yeah it's like I

Caitlinguess do women really need to be feminism coming up and sexual Liberation after that um I don't think women don't bring anything to the table but yeah it's like I would say as a society with

Caitlinum like no offense but like how much money like you do make on only fans there's no way that's right for society yeah I know no one should be making sure

Gianna DiorI'm joking by the way I'm joking any woman I like think of that for myself I'm like I shouldn't be making the amount of money that I am for like

Brian Atlassong on the internet oh yeah I'm actually the total opposite I think we need to I think we should switch things up for a little bit maybe you know with like the

Brian Atlasdraft I think we actually switch it so like only women can be drafted and then we just populate the entire military with women because significantly down in the U.S yes and

Micahall the women right and like the birthing rate already through the US is already going down because no one's wanting to give birth so I'm saying if you send all the women over to war then you're there's your

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