She WOULD NOT Date A Short BILLIONAIRE?! | Dating Talk #102

Date: 2023-09-20

Duration: 4h 58m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMolly Little >

CCarly (DT102)>

KKendall (DT102)>

AAriel (DT102)>

SShania (DT102)>

KKaylin (DT102)>

MMason Gregoire >

PPriya (DT102)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Mason(guest)

SPEAKER_02Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Ariel(guest)

SPEAKER_04Ryan(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kendall(guest)

SPEAKER_06Molly Little(guest)

SPEAKER_07Priya(guest)

SPEAKER_08Kaylin(guest)

SPEAKER_09Shania(guest)

SPEAKER_10Carly(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMolly Little introduces herself as a porn star, age 20. Describes career highlight as a 9-man blowbang scene. First year in porn; AVN-nominated for best threesome.

OtherShania reveals her father is Robin Crosby, guitarist of 1980s hair metal band Rat. Brian and Shania attempt to sing 'Round and Round.' Photo comparison shown on screen.

QuoteKendall reveals every boyfriend she has had has cheated on her (~5 of 6 relationships). Current ex cheated in Cancun Mexico ~1 month ago after 2-year relationship.

QuotePriya declines Brian's offer to pay for a logo tattoo; sets price at $10,000 minimum.

QuoteMason declares he is a virgin saving himself for marriage and '100% certain' nothing could change that. Plans to get wedding ring tattooed when married.

QuoteMolly describes year-long sugar daddy relationship: he paid $15k in one month, they went 6 months without sex, he bought her a computer and paid rent twice. Later found out he was cheating on her (she was also cheating).

QuoteBrian points out: 'Dating and life on easy mode -- there's no 18-year-old men getting paid $15,000 by 37-year-old women. It just doesn't happen.'

QuoteMolly states: 'I have sex with men for a living and my boyfriend knows and is okay with that. He even drops me off at their houses. But when he has sex with other girls I get jealous.' Describes wanting all his attention despite identical work arrangement.

QuoteBrian reveals he's been sexually active since 'the Bush Administration' (~2007) and describes sudden cultural shift around 2012-2013 where women all wanted to be choked: 'One day nobody wanted to be choked, next day choke me daddy.'

QuoteCarly (virgin, 19) states she would date someone with herpes if they were 'the love of my life' and describes only having known one man she would commit to in her life.

QuoteShania (6'2") refuses to date a 5'5" billionaire: 'I don't want to carry around a step stool.' This is the episode's title moment.

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce themselves: Molly Little (porn actress), Carly (fitness influencer), Kendall (student), Ariel (influencer), Shania (model), Kaylin (student), Mason (engineer/powerlifter), Priya (equestrian/student). Shania reveals her father is Robin Crosby of 1980s hair metal band Rat.

Flaking / no-shows rant

Brian addresses 7 flakes and no-shows for this episode. Shows Instagram evidence of two guests who claimed car trouble but posted from cars. Mason helped coordinate rides until 1am.

Tattoos - red flag or green flag

Panel debates tattoos: attractive or red flag? Mason discusses Leviticus verse. Carly has extensive leg/arm tattoos. Molly has tattoos. Discussion of deception in dating (makeup vs tattoos). Brian offers to pay for whatever tattoo on a guest; Priya asks for $10k minimum.

Relationship status round

All guests share current relationship status and longest relationships. Kendall reveals complicated cheating situation. Ariel in 4-day relationship (her longest). Mason is virgin saving for marriage. Shania single since December. Ryan single since junior year.

Height requirements

Each guest shares minimum height requirements for male partners. Most require 5'4" to 5'10" minimum. Shania (6'2") prefers taller men but has dated 5'7". Norse Pagan viewer at 5'2" debated as dateable.

Makeup and deception in dating

Debate on whether women wearing heavy makeup is deceptive to men. Comparison to men posing with expensive cars. Whether makeup should be banned for minors. Mason argues it's a heart issue.

Sugar daddy experiences

Molly recounts two sugar daddy experiences: a billionaire who flew her to London on Seeking Arrangements (oral only, $500, 3 days); year-long relationship with strip club sugar daddy who paid $15k in one month. Kendall discloses findom-style texting ($3,500 over 2 weeks, boyfriend aware).

Sex work and relationships

Extended debate on whether sex workers can maintain healthy relationships. Molly describes jealousy when boyfriend films scenes despite doing the same. Panel debates if sex work contributes to moral decay. Mason: promiscuity = civilization decline. Molly says she wishes she could have gone to college instead.

Provider/protector role and gender dynamics

Discussion of whether men need to be the primary provider. Mason argues man should provide house, woman makes it home. Hypothetical: would men feel emasculated if billionaire wife provided?

Self-ratings round

Viewer asks all guests to rate their looks 1-10. Shania: 9. Ariel: ~7. Various others: 6-7. Molly: 6. Mason declines to rate anyone.

Body count debate

Panel discusses whether body count matters. Molly: ~100 total (4 personal). Carly: 0 (virgin). Ariel: 1. Kendall: 4. Priya/Shania: declined. Ryan declined to state. Mason argues high body count correlates with inability to pair-bond.

STD / herpes discussion

After show: panel discusses dating/sleeping with someone with incurable STD. Molly: has slept with herpes-positive people; hasn't contracted it. Carly: would if it were the love of her life. Mason: only if she was perfect match (unlikely). Brian: absolute deal-breaker regardless.

Short billionaire question

After show: Brian asks if anyone would date a 5'5" billionaire. Shania (6'2") says no - cannot get past height, dislikes carrying step stool. Mason: doesn't blame her. Most women on panel decline.

World of Warcraft tangent

Brian goes on extended WoW tangent about viewer Bobcat's guild progress in Hardcore Classic. Discusses loot systems (DKP, EPGP, Suicide Kings, soft reserve, GDKP). Asks panel to pick favorite loot system; Molly picks Suicide Kings ('I like Suicide Boys').

Transcript

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Molly Littleperspectives is is that me and my partner know well like okay me and my partner know that sex work is just work sure obviously you don't know what's worse because you're starting arguments over

Arielhim doing his work which should be fine because because you want all the attention because I'm human and I'm going to have

Arielexactly so we're saying never mind you're you're going okay let's go biologically monogamy is natural right when you go against your nature what

Arieldoes that cause a problem that causes problems and what does problem what do problems cause an unhealthy relationship and then an unhealthy relationship is what barely a relationship but what do

Molly Littleyou mean you don't agree with biological fact I mean I don't I don't agree monogamy is like the biological and all be-all of the most it's not end-all be-all monogamy is natural other stuff um

Molly Littlehow do you how did you quickly absolutely because there's like tribes where like polyamory is how they survive that's that's because polygamy polyamory yeah polygamy yeah that is also a natural but humans

Arielhave shown to naturally be predisposed to pair bond and to be monogamous so yeah that's my I know where you were going you were

Molly Littlesaying that like um what is it no no like in like I just think the way our society is formed and the way that like most of us has grown up yes it seems like it would be the social Norm but I think in the history

Priyaof the Universe I don't think monogamy was like history we're not talking about social norms we're talking about biology we're talking about history no I think she's talking about in terms of Jupiter no I think she's talking about like like

Masoncaveman times right like you're talking about like the amount of sight like you're talking about like repopulation correct no they're still like even in like so you you made the point that some tribes in the world practice polygamy

Arielyeah right sure okay should we really model our society after this but look no those people in those communities people still would tend to pair bond with one

Masonperson yeah I mean just because people do it doesn't mean it's ideal and I mean well we're not saying people do it we're saying it's also a natural yeah well it's unnatural I would say it's not I

Masonwould say yeah I would say political polygamy is unnatural for humans it's what's natural for humans is to create more children yeah yeah and most most of those like tribes that you're referring

Priyato have a what's the term for where it's closed on the woman's side but open on the man's side double standard I don't know but like most most of those tribes like

Priyathere is a man that has multiple like wives or whatever that's usually because but when it's when it's are you talking about the harem no like a one-sided open really yeah exactly that's the purpose it's

Masonlegitimately for the purpose of repopulation right so which is that is natural my point is okay so yeah it's natural for a man to

Masondesire sex with a lot of Partners but there is my my argument the natural tendency is

Arielfor society to fall into monogamy yeah well I'm agreeing with you I'm saying even in the communities where polygamy was practiced people tended to pair bond

Masonwith one specific person yeah so uh so kind of going off this idea of parabons so in those societies where polygamy was

Masoneither promoted or mainly practiced I would say that those societies quickly fell out of the public eye because of not just that practice but a plethora of

Masonother things that came with that I mean you just kind of see that there are most civilizations that practice those things that's usually an indication of the

Masoncivilization is going to fail it it shows a debased mind it shows a civilization that is not connected with reality yeah and it's going against the natural order of things I don't well

SPEAKER_00you're you're talking about natural order and sense of like civilizations I'm talking about biology 99 Buffy do you believe that hookup culture is a good thing or a bad part of the society as a whole

Molly LittleI don't know that was mean and I'm not gonna answer it I guess I will I guess just ignore the barfi part so do you think hookup culture is a good thing or a bad thing for society as a whole yeah hookup

Masonculture I think it's bad okay I think hookup culture is bad yeah so this kind of goes into the argument I'm trying to make so

Brian Atlasyes I'm talking in terms of civilization uh like so I I know but we're just saying biology like psychologically no yes it's not let's not have a debate about tribes I don't think that was her central point

Brian Atlasanyways we were we were initially talking about uh this Dynamic with you and your boyfriend right well yeah but she was talking about being human that's why I brought it up okay but I think we've I we don't need to linger on yeah

Molly Littlewhat I'm trying to make is even though I am secure in the fact that I love my boyfriend and he loves me and that my job is just work and that his job is just work it is still

Molly Littleinevitable for me even though I'm like very secure to feel jealousy because sex is such an intimate thing and

Brian Atlasthat okay I know I think it is I think I saw your Twitter I saw your Twitter

Priyasex is the most intimate thing that we can offer another human Yeah in our lives but you clearly don't value it that way well and also didn't you say

Molly Littlethat if your partner saw you doing your work that they're insecure yeah no I think if my partner saw me doing and I'm saying I am insecure I have moments of insecurity I'm not saying

Molly Littlethat I'm not insecure like I'm trying to relay the fact that like him and I both have the same insecurities for each other when we do sex work and I get jealous because

Molly Littlewho's more jealous you or him I think it's me but in my Ideal World neither of us would have to other people in order to make money you don't have to you don't have to you don't have

Molly Littleto yeah but I do because it's what I like and Society provides yeah it's not ideal but you like it yeah wait you like it but you wish that you didn't

Priyahave to do it well no she she said that even if she had like no I know yeah I know but I wish that okay in an Ideal World I wish our society was placed in a

Arielway where I could a bunch of men your boyfriend couldn't you want to live in a society like that sorry go ahead go ahead finish your thing

Molly LittleI would wear it wasn't an option at all hold on let's yeah but where okay

Molly Littlenot a society I would change my life where I was put in a position where I because I'm pretty young so where I had the chance to go to college and like get a really good degree had the time and

Molly Littlethe money to like personally invest in my studies and like my knowledge of the world but I don't and that's not necessarily like the worst thing in the world but as a result of that I've chosen to do

Brian Atlassex work and I have put myself in this situation where I have to navigate relationships hope don't you think well now cope well you started out you started out as a stripper you made some guy paid you what fifteen thousand

Brian Atlasdollars was that that was you right yeah that's enough to go to Community College I actually decide well I didn't like it you didn't like stripping or in like college Community College you just said you just said you wish you could

Brian Atlashave lived in a world I would want to go to like yeah yeah

Masonyou're giving all of these more like like you say like to provide value for society like this shouldn't be in there but you're causing you're you're actively contributing to

Molly Littlethe moral decay of society I do realize that so I mean there are a lot of evil people I don't think that sex work necessarily

Molly Littleis the ultimate moral decay of society wait okay but it largely contributes to it I think what contributes to it is the consumers not the sex ones we can

Brian Atlascontinue guys we keep veering off of the Central Point here we can if you want you can bring it back to sex work is bad yes okay we get it however let's try to hone in on the relationship Dynamic here

Brian Atlasthat you have when it comes to Yale I'd be happy to write you a letter of recommendation oh thank you very much in any case um uh so okay your boyfriend so he drops

Brian Atlasyou off at their houses sometimes yeah he does so you're you're about to go get them that I don't know like as a guy I'm about to go see for our dinner

Brian Atlasoh did he drive you I'm like I'm trying to wrap my head around how I would feel like I'm driving my girl to

Brian Atlasto the the shoot yeah and I'm like does he kiss you goodbye like as you're leaving he does all right love you babe have a good day at work like do you want

Masonto marry this guy potentially I just like I don't I think you do why not

Molly Littleall of your actions are working against that goal but okay what is what I do for work working against my goal of marriage like I don't understand why that is because you just said it builds insecurity for

Masonboth and it creates arguments in your relationship attention it creates insecurity for sure you're sharing stuff that is for sure key to who you are trying to like so sex is intimate to a

Masonrelationship and you're sharing that with other people then it creates intimacies with these other people and all of a sudden you can't make that emotional connection with your significant other who's saying that I can't make that emotional connection

Priyabiologically it does take away from your ability to be able to have that emotional connection through sex why she only wants him

Molly Littleto me yeah I I would prefer that he only me and like gives me all of the attention but

MasonI understand that that's not like necessarily how my lifestyle works but that's as a man that's what he's gonna want if he even if he says that

Molly Littleright now he doesn't really care that's what he wants that's what you want wait no no that's what men in general even said that your your boyfriend does care

Masonof course yeah I mean I care so men and men do not want their women sleeping around with a bunch of other dudes that's just fact it doesn't matter what

Masonyou feel about it he will say what he needs to say because for some reason in his mind like he just wants to make sure that you're not going to walk out and he will say whatever he wants to say to make that

Masonnot happen I don't think that's true I mean that's just that's just fact that's not fact I think that's your opinion no I mean that just that statistically

Masonthat's borne out men don't like that I'm a person not a statistic statistics are made up of people I mean we can go back and forth and forth about this so I just don't think it's

Brian Atlasconstructive and she's a human um The Vibes are right Brian vibes okay so you said you only want him to F you

Brian Atlasuh you don't care if it's wrong at least you acknowledge it's kind of hypocritical or whatever of course um it's just kind of like

Brian Atlasyou know it's coming you know what I mean I don't even that doesn't make any sense okay no I had actually I had a point but it just actually slipped my mind um

Brian AtlasI guess my big thing though is that would you say that it's men who don't want to date or be involved with women who do sex work would you say they're insecure

Molly LittleI think it could could go both ways but personally from my experience they're insecure they're insecure okay what do you mean both ways like if I think it could actually mean potentially that they are very secure in

Brian Atlasthis if they don't date yeah a sex worker yeah oh okay I I see what you mean like I think it could go both ways or it can mean that they're very insecure yeah why would it make them insecure

Molly LittleI think fear for the fact that they just don't they purely don't want to see their girls I agree with the fact that like people don't want other people to their girlfriend but I also think that that lies within possessiveness which is

Brian Atlaswhat I talked about I don't think that's a good trait for any person to have um basically can you ask wait you just said possessiveness is not a good trait to have but you said I really think the

Brian Atlasfeelings of possessive possessiveness that come up in real oh well okay that's you are possessive though yeah you said you start arguments you get jealous even though he's doing precisely what you're

Brian Atlasdoing yeah it's I just can't wrap my head around how can you be mad at somebody your significant other for engaging in the exact kind of behavior that you engage in yourself

Brian Atlasnot saying that I'm mad it's frustrating well you get jealous and you start arguments yeah how do you start an argument you're like how dare you that when I just no basically what happened that's referring to like one

Molly Littlespecific situation so what happened was like this girl came over and like they um I think they did like two scenes yeah

Molly Littleokay but I got really frustrated because I'm not able to like like I'm okay I'm not able to make him like

Molly Littlecome from head all the time and this girl did it and he told me immediately that he told me immediately that she did it she didn't like two minutes and then

Molly Littlethey had to like film a whole another video and then proceeded to tell me I know and then proceeded to tell me how I could do it like her and that honestly just made me feel frustrated because

Brian Atlasthis is professional that that hold on that's like a professional consultation babe that's a professional console why do you

Brian Atlasthink it's a professional console this you're in your you are a professional but I don't want to be professional s

SPEAKER_00from the conversation when she comes you'll most likely H positive do you think any man would want to put his tongue where 100 other men have been your lady bit saw basically a sewer at

Brian Atlasthis point control yourself sewer confirm or deny is it a sewer uh definitely denied okay all right well Jay Butler she denies her also back to

Molly Littleyour like big labias matter yes I have big labia so I support that I used to want a rhinoplasty when I was younger or not right when I was younger and Horn has made me not want to get one

Brian AtlasBLM BLM in the chat uh hashtag BLM big labia matter yeah yeah um what we're talking about my vagina

Molly Littlewhere are we though yeah you said it was like a sewer and that's almost it it hurts me that you have a big labia and you do

Brian Atlasporn it's an alley she has an Audi she hasn't happened I saw look I had to do the research on the Twitter I saw them

Brian Atlasbro do dude Twitter is like I don't sub to you or anything but your Twitter you post your full-blown hoo-ha on Twitter yeah I do and I I found the this one yeah show us again show us

Molly Littleyou know the this do you know what I mean you know my mom looks at my Twitter oh my God what does your mom say about your job she called oh she's very supportive she called me one time she saw a photo of me

Molly Littlewith like bracelet's penis wrapped around my neck she goes I just want to make sure you're okay rat wait wait wait she was like way too fast around your neck

SPEAKER_00can you really not see how unhealthy and unsustainable this relationship is have you never had a real example of an actual healthy relationship before you know what's crazy though if it

Brian Atlaswasn't for the fact that you did porn and you were a stripper and you had a billionaire sugar daddy and you have a mushroom tattoo on your sternum you

Brian Atlaswould actually kind of beat my type I'm a pretty cool you're done I saw that photo on Twitter it's a wrap it's over it's okay that's fine we can just be friends we could have you back on there you're

Molly Littlefun yeah of course um friends maybe maybe business acquaintances the last girl maybe friends Layla I don't think I did your business you did the

Brian Atlasscene with Layla yeah I like met her on a porn set yeah she's like she's wild she's trying to get at me it's insane I saw her Twitter sense I'm scared she's very persistent she's

Molly Littletrolling though um so okay I don't know what I was saying I don't know where I'm going with this why did you bring up the big labia thing well because he said my vagina is

Brian Atlasprobably like a sewer so oh you know oh okay it's not so that was that Mr meatball Mr meeple that was a bit vile how dare

Brian Atlasyou sir okay um last thing here on your your thing you said honest take on Modern dating I'd say men and women are being led by the media to want superficial things from one another more than spiritual

Brian Atlaswholesome qualities in a partner I think that's that separates our society in a way that negatively impacts the way we see Life as a whole and the way we treat people who come into our lives

Brian Atlasunfortunately we are being led to see love as what can someone provide for me rather than how can these two people work together for the better it all seems very selfish yes

Brian Atlasa little earlier you did say the guy should pay for the first date that's all I'm saying that's not really working together are you anti-paying on the first date

Brian Atlasdepends but yeah generally yes I'm I've had some temptation to change my position on it um but I

Brian Atlasthere are some circumstances where I would pay on the first date but uh I think in this current social and dating climate I don't think men should pay on first dates

Brian Atlasokay again there are some some circum excuse me some circumstances yes but in the current dating and social climate I think no if we were if society as a whole people

Brian Atlasas a whole young people as a whole were moving in a more traditional way than absolutely men should pay for the first date men should fall into traditional gender roles but my primary qualmouth men paying for the first date is like I

Brian Atlasdon't want to feel like a sucker right so if I'm gone on a date with a girl that some not all not I'd say it's not it's a minority of women some women do foodie calls they just want the free experience they just want I've

Molly Littledefinitely done that before well there you go no I I can definitely see why you wouldn't want to pay on the first date but that doesn't benefit me so it upsets me wow that was very transparent yeah that

Arielwas thank you for your uh what's the right word for that cancer thing yeah thank you I mean you are honest you are brutally honest at least you have that reason share our opinions wait Brian can I ask you a question you can ask me

Arielanything okay so anything you want would you like would you prefer to have traditional gender roles in your relationship your future relationship in my future relationship like traditional generals yeah

Brian Atlasyou know what's funny is that in some ways like the whole feminist stuff has actually benefited men in a lot of ways which is kind of fun um all those some well okay I'm getting

Brian Atlasahead of myself here um like it's kind of great like you know oh 50 50. I guess we can do that oh you want you can even push it sometimes like it's

Arielkind of nice the chick just Sims for you you know she just pays you okay so you like when it's 50 50. you you continue to pay for everything well for me okay it's it's weird but like

Brian Atlaswise well because I like to I I do like to lead but I I would also say like it is nice when a girl does show some initiative in some ways like if I feel

Brian Atlaslike I'm always having to initiate and you obviously want someone who desires you right you don't want to feel like man I'm in the same way with friendships do you know I don't know if any of you are here have friends where you are

Brian Atlasfriends but you know like there are some friends that you might have where you feel like I'm always the one that's kind of reaching out to them and I'm always sure and then after a long enough time it can kind of feel like

Brian Atlasthey're not value valuing the relationship in the same way so I kind of like that in a romantic relationship don't get me wrong like I like to lead and I'm happy to take initiative but it is nice if there's like you know

Brian Atlasit's clear that she has a mutual genuine desire and interest in me too um invested

Brian AtlasI mean like look it's uh sex before marriage okay what what second date first date I don't know it's thank you feminism I guess

Arielokay so like it wouldn't be like oh my God what just be honest like you'd be totally fine if she just paid rent and you're just like hell yeah like do you bro here's the for your wife you are you saying like 50 50.

Brian Atlasno let me take it a step further you know what's even more gangster she's paying for everything okay so and you're still in charge that's gangster that's a sugar Mommy that's some gangster

Ariellike you you would be fine with your wife being like that you and your wife a girl Sims for me but okay no she can swim for you but like we're talking like money wise money-wise if she pays for everything in your marriage

Brian Atlaswould you like that like would that put you off a little bit at all or I feel like it depends what the dynamic is I feel like I actually and maybe some guys in the chat are gonna call me out be like oh Brian but like if

Brian Atlasif you can still kind of maintain the frame of the relationship and you're still kind of the leader but she's just yeah but you would have to have you would have to maintain some kind of

Masonpurpose as a man because I think men inherently like work has to be done like if you don't have any purpose with your life it's

Masongonna be terrible so and I mean that goes both for men and women but like if the woman is leading if the woman is fulfilling all of these masculine roles I yeah I think it will be unfulfilling

Masonbut I think if somehow you could do that in which where you have like this leadership role still and you're like pursuing this Mission but she's just paying the bills

Brian AtlasI don't know if I would be he like with the what's that baby thing that's on the chest you know what I mean I know what you're talking about like a baby sling or whatever no no no I don't think I'd be happy like being the State I don't no no like not the stay-at-home

Brian Atlasdad that yeah I don't think you'd be happy well like me personally like I don't know if the greatest fulfillment in life for men or women is like

Brian Atlasyour career in money it's not no I definitely don't think like I personally don't get me wrong like I like to make money I work hard

Brian Atlasum I'm a hustler but like if I got like if someone just gave me like 10 million right now I wouldn't turn it down like I'm good like uh no I wouldn't turn it down but like

Brian AtlasI don't know drastically like I would just chill you know I wouldn't be like oh I've got that's not true though I don't yeah yeah like she's like I think so you're a man like you're married you can't just chill and say she pays for

Arieleverything you still work you still do your stuff and then what like last year automatically she kind of

Arielis the leader because you're saying you would want to still lead in the relationship right yes you would still want to present a masculine role what if as best as I can with these

Arielyeah but it's like what if you're like oh I want to move to another house or oh I want to go here you know everything costs money so it's kind of like she's kind of in control of that if she's paying for everything

Brian Atlaswell okay I'm I feel like I'm thinking the very hypothetical way because you know yeah in actuality this like yeah but like he's like she makes all the money but I have control of all somehow

Arielshe doesn't work at all you would enjoy uh experience where you're with a woman and she kind of sugar mommies you but

Brian Atlasmarriage wise your wife would you really idealistically want her to pay for everything well I feel like and I the work that I do

Brian AtlasI mean sitting I sit a lot which isn't good for your health but like there are men that are breaking their bodies to provide for their wife and I think I think for these men obviously like I I don't think any of them begrudgingly do

Brian Atlasthat sort of work but they destroy their bodies and I it it occurs or it crosses my Minds like would these men trade the back-breaking

Brian Atlasdifficult grueling dangerous uh dirty jobs that a lot of men do to have like a pampered life provide like I know it sounds kind of

Brian Atlassim no no so then you hear what you're saying these men break their bodies and it's like I get I get that it's maybe this is I get that it's like as a man you have to provide you have to bring the money if

Brian Atlasyou're not you're you're a or you're emasculated but I'm like you guys are breaking your bodies and if some chick came in and was like and you could still be in your masculine and still be a leader in the household but

Masonshe's making bank and you don't have to do that back-breaking work and she's some attorney would you stop doing the backbreaking labor and be fulfilled yeah so is that the question

Brian Atlaskind of what the point you're trying to get yeah I'm thinking because like I view what I do a lot of people might laugh at this like I feel like the job I do is stressful I work 78 70 80 hours a week

Brian Atlasum I'm doing very well but I'm working a ton I sit a lot I got neck pain I got back pain so I think to myself I think oh I don't have to sit in the chair

Brian Atlaseight hours a day and my my girl makes money that's not such a bad trade-off from my view yeah sure these men who are plumbers electricians whatever they're on their knees all day

Brian Atlasif you're a handyman you're you're getting all up a lot of these guys their their knees are gone their back is gone by 50. yeah and it's like so I don't know would you not just trade

Priyathat in for something that totally gives you purpose still but is less like labor intensive I feel like what you're doing right now I'm saying it's totally fine but I'm

Arieljust pointing out that I feel like you would feel a little emasculated if she's paying for everything because then she is somewhat taking a leader role I've never been in the position really so

Brian AtlasI haven't been there so I think no but like uh I deal it like if I think about it it's like if some chick just came in who's insanely wealthy and it's like I'll take care of you I'm

Brian Atlaslike assuming she's like if she otherwise meets all my other metrics like she's she's Pleasant attractive Etc like is it

Arielthat big of an L as a guy to date a woman who makes more money than you like to me that doesn't strike me as an l no right so that's something like

Masonyou would consider not that important to give up for that in return you know yeah well I think like I I'm I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume that you the

Masonwork you do you find fulfillment in yeah yeah so yeah I mean in the same way I think people who are plumbers electricians like if if they just disappeared tomorrow the world would

Masonfall apart so in some sense like probably a lot of them get a lot of fulfillment out of what they do and so there's a purpose in their life and so they get paid to do it there isn't there

Masonis this goal where Society runs and then they get to come home to a family who is hopefully healthy who hopefully they never they weren't sleeping around in their younger years then they have this

Masongenuine Bond and they have kids and they're propagating this Legacy that will affect the human race for generations to come so I think there is

Priyalike great there is I think that is hardwired into men and women specifically men yes like women women too but women yeah

Priyadifferent places and men need men need like purpose and need to be needed essentially and like yeah I think you can depend

Brian Atlasfrom person to person but generally yeah that is the case and just as far as what you're saying I'm not saying like certainly the work that these men who do back breaking work it's absolutely it's incredibly valuable to society and I'm

Brian Atlassure that well I would hope that they view it that way that the work that they do even men who are garbage men like that's a very valuable thing like if there's no sanitation like Society

Brian Atlasstarts looking very ugly very quickly exactly uh but like it's just look again I don't think this is a situation I'm ever gonna be in but like granted I can't like this idea I feel

Brian Atlaslike it's uh this idea that if your girl like makes here let me let me clarify one thing a girl who makes a lot of money she's not more attractive to me like it

Brian Atlasdoesn't make her more attractive like I'm not going out of my way to pursue wealthy women because it for me it's not an attraction trigger but on a pure's like long-term trajectory like is it kind of a plus sure but I'm not going to

Brian Atlasbe more attracted to a girl if she's obscenely wealthy so it's not like I'm ever going to be in a gold digger situation where I'm like pursuing a chick because of the wealth but echostatic kt5 donated

SPEAKER_0099.99 I'm a stay-at-home father my wife works and makes all the money I am fulfilled and don't feel emasculated or embarrassed and frankly being a

SPEAKER_00stay-at-home father is harder than my last job and I was a New York City firefighter for 11 years I don't know maybe like so

Priyaoh did you have a follow-up or to his comment uh I do oh okay go ahead again I don't necessarily think that it

Priyahas to be emasculating but it goes against like your your like the nature of how men and women parent and like I don't know how old your children are

Priyaobviously but I think it is very essential for the mother to be very present in young Children's Life specifically and I don't think that I don't think a stay-at-home father can

Molly Littleprovide the type of nurturing that a mother can yeah but she can also be at home and be making that much money I disagree with that um like okay from personal experience my

Molly Littleuncle is a stay-at-home dad and my aunt it's like the CFO of this company or whatever and like he let he used to work at SeaWorld and like went SeaWorld before they got canceled but um now he was like a shark trainer or

Molly Littlewhatever but and he quit his job to like raise their kids and I have a lot of respect for him for doing that because I agree with you it can be very emasculating for a man to

Molly Littlekind of take on the role of what would be traditionally a woman but I still think that A Parent's Love Is A Parent's Love regardless of if it's knowing from a mom

Priyaor a dad I agree but the type of the way that that men and women portray their love for their children is fundamentally different yeah like it's like especially like I mean if we're talking about like

Priyarandom statistics on people that grow up in single-parent households especially with young boys boys that grow up in like single mother households are

Priyastatistically like going to have a like like a smaller portion of them are going to graduate high school are going to um like end up in in a larger about it that are going to end up in prison but

Priyait's not the same for if it's a single father because they like fathers essentially provide discipline and that's what young boys essentially need so you think they're missing like the cherish feeling cherished yeah well I

Priyathink that well especially with i i again I don't know how old their children are but especially with like newborns and infants it's really essential for the mother to be very present compared to the father

ArielI would agree with that yeah did you have a follow-up no not really oh what was the original question okay yeah I was gonna mention that I it it stemmed this conversation stem from paying for

Arielthe first day so that's why I was like that's why I was asking you what's ideal like in your marriage because if ideally you're taking on the leader role and paying for everything and you don't pay

Arielfor the first date that's going to turn off a girl that maybe you would want to be married to in the future right I see what you're saying I'm working through it right now in my brain the wheels are

Masonturning yeah I mean I yeah I think like as so uh as a non-believer so as a Believer when I go

Masoninto a relationship with somebody it usually comes with them sharing that kind of moral structure there is a value system and objective value system that is outside of what I think can be right

Masonor wrong referenced in the Bible but so when I go into that relationship there are those values shared on the other side because I've probably talked to them I've probably gotten to know them I'm texting whatever

Masonand so when I go on that first date I can usually safely assume that she is not being promiscuous she's not sleeping around with a ton of dudes but in

Masonsecular society you can't make that assumption it probably most women are going to be I'm saying most women not all women most women are going to be sleeping around so

Masonto go on that first date it is hard for me to rationalize as a man providing giving my provisioning to a woman that

Masonis not going to give me her I guess her uh what's the word I'm looking for

Brian Atlasin and out right okay the owners are it's Christian right yes I don't know how attractive the errors of the in and out Dynasty are fair enough um I don't know how much in that let's

Brian Atlassay let's look let's say a billionaire Christian virgin heiress comes into your life you're turning her down no okay I should say Eris because then

Masonit's like family money yeah yeah yeah she's not really working for it I'm trying to think of a better example here no yeah so somehow she has

Masona buttload of money yeah but she works for it she works for it okay yeah right do you is that like for you you say no to that I would so I would have to dig a

Masonlittle deeper into so if I pursue this relationship with her I'm I'm not opposed to her having her job I mean she's single so she has to provide for herself so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

Masonmake the assumption that like she's just gonna Float On by and uh yeah so she has to make money so but when I get if I get married to her and we start having kids

Masonis her primary goal gonna be mothering or is she gonna be saying that's fair point I have to no I want to keep working because if we're going to talk

Masonabout biblically speaking I mean proverbs 31 the basis for a ideal woman the ideal wife is primarily mother but then it lists all these other things

Masonthat she should be and one of my favorite verses in the entire Bible is that the woman should strengthen her arms so she got to be in the gym wait okay so what if she has all that money and she has time yeah you know her

Masonmoney's working for her she can divide that attention to eventually that that actually is referenced in the Bible so in Proverbs 31 it talks about the woman who can take what she has and she

Masonmultiplies it and she is and it's not just this woman that is secluded to the home and is never seen she is also well known among the city Elders so she has

Masonthis ideal reputation calm down Brian we're not okay making those assumptions but she like she is intellectually sharp she is well known

Masonby the intellectuals in the city like she has a high reputation and she makes money she multiplies her money she takes

Masonthis house and she makes it well known and I think like that's incredible and for her to have that and it's a man's job to make sure she has that ideal

Masonenvironment to where she can flourish so that's protection so like for me if I've ran across this millionaire heiress

Brian Atlassorry do you want to but oh um I I think I was maybe going it wasn't a great uh question I was trying to ask I guess ultimately I would just say like I don't know there's a lot of dudes in

Brian Atlasthe chat uh who call me a out saying like L Bryan look um no yeah maybe I'm not articulating it perfectly no you don't have to don't show it

Brian Atlasdon't show the chat so the reality is like a lot of guys in the chat are oh of course like I'm gonna be the sole Breadwinner my wife's not gonna

Brian Atlaswork she's gonna just gonna stay home the reality is gentlemen like the vast majority of people in this country in the U.S in the West

Brian Atlasyou if you want to have a decent standard of living you cannot do it on just one income so if you're really wealthy then go ahead provide for your

Brian Atlasgirl but like most men probably even most men watching this you're not gonna be like facing guys like your your girlfriend your wife is probably going to be working like most of you I'm not

Brian Atlassaying this to hate on you like not just the men who are watching but most men are going to date a woman be in a relationship with a woman marry a woman who's going to need to work out of

Brian Atlasnecessity now you might want her to stay at home but let's face the fight the economic reality here in this country it's dog there's inflations through the roof you can no longer for most people support a household on one

Brian Atlasincome so the reality is your your wife is going to have to work if you want to support a family so I guess what I'm saying like look me personally if I was so inclined I could support I could have a stay-at-home wife but I'm trying to

Masonkind of speak from them like I'm a outlier like I'm an outlier when it comes to my we live in a reality where it's financially extremely difficult right where we do need like two incomes

Masonso I guess like speaking on that so if I have a wife she has and we have kids um I am going out I am earning a a

Masondecent salary and I would hope that she would be able to take that and either through she would try I would encourage her to learn investing or some kind of skill where

Masonshe can be at home with the children be able to raise them but also make money so I'm not opposed to women making money that's right that's a great thing I I think that's awesome like if you can

Masonmake money as a woman I'm not against that even in the in the in the context of a marriage relationship I just I'm my position is if it takes away from her job as a mother that's when it's bad

Arielright so my question is say you have this billionaire woman her money's working for her she's at home she's raising children are you not like are you okay with not working

MasonI'm not okay with not working and why is that because as a man like I have a purpose like I I feel like I need to do something why can't your purpose be to stay home and take care of the kids

Masonbecause that's not my role it's it's not my role that I say is laid out by God but and it's programmed into us like

ArielI mean I think I obviously I think it's a somewhat of a role to care for and provide attention to each other but it is yes I see what you're saying yeah I I so if like I got married

Masonto this billionaire woman like I would still work okay you would still work would you let her pay for everything I mean in the marriage uh I don't believe in happening and this is this is

Masongoing to be uh I know Brian won't agree with me but uh I don't believe in having separate financials uh I think we pull everything together like I think when two people come they is the Bible says

Masontwo are made one and you are inseparable that's why the Bible is very clear on divorce there are only there are very few circumstances in

Masonwhich divorce is okay so I I believe in bringing everything together not just uh not just each other physically and emotionally but like sure it would be both of you guys's money but she would

Brian Atlasbe earning it like would that bother you at all no okay it does occur to me though like let's say as a guy you are a wage slave for some Mega Corp company and

Brian Atlasyou're sitting there in front of your computer 10 hours a day you're some Code Monkey at some woke company making money for Rich

Brian Atlasbillionaires and let's say you you meet some girl who happens to be wealthy and like she's involved she makes her earning potential absolutely dwarfs yours

Brian Atlasand obviously when she has kids she would for a period of time she would take maternity leave let's say um is it that big of a like and let's say

Brian Atlasshe's look I get it like would that girl be attracted to you that's the that's the other question because I think a lot of women who are high earners might not

Masonbe attracted to a guy that you have to provide for so it's like these are very hypothetical scenarios that I think he would have to be like an

Brian Atlasextremely masculine man like well there's a lot of masculine men that don't make a lot of money yeah no exactly fair enough yeah like those are very

Arielmasculine yeah you feel emasculine in your relationship if she was a provider I guess that's my main no question I you wouldn't I don't

MasonI I wouldn't feel emasculated because I know uh it's not like I'm it's especially so in the Bible it's not it's shown that it's good that a woman makes

Masonmoney but the the point is that a man has a job like and he's doing something a job too and and to go to Brian's point he doesn't he shouldn't have a job where

Masonhe's working for a corporation that exploits people or is pushing terrible politics or is hurting the world in general so I would say any man that's in

Masonone of those businesses get out uh let those businesses die but I would say like so if this billionaire woman came to my life he was like hey let's get married uh

MasonI would if I were in one of those jobs I would like quit my job and do something that I find is highly contributing to society so that might be electrician it might be Carpenter whatever it could be police officer firefighter or something like

Arielthat so in the way you live your life and your beliefs what are the roles of a man and a woman in the family so

Arielfrom what I'm gathering the woman nurtures and the man provides right so when say you're in this hypothetical situation where the woman is providing

Arieleven though you're still working in the family your role your purpose is to provide so in that family you're not providing sure you have a purpose with

Masonyour job gotcha okay with that right I don't think provision is solely monetary I think as a man you you're providing in

Masona ton of different ways so like when yeah so it's guidance you have to move on but okay I'll make a quick Point yeah quick Point okay you provide it in uh

Masonlogic how you discipline your kids uh like I'm gonna take my kids hunting so it's like showing them how to do difficult things like stuff like that

Masonyou provide in other aspects if you if you're not the major Breadwinner okay um I would say just

Brian AtlasI don't think for men or women being a wage slave for your entire life working until you're 60 or 65 working until you're retired working until you've accrued if you're if you're in a

Brian Atlasphysically demanding profession you've your knees are destroyed your back is destroyed um sitting in the chair all day with lethargic job I don't think that is the

Brian Atlasultimate way to be happy even I look obviously to maneuver in society you need to make money to pay your rent to pay for bills to pay for food to provide for your family Etc I get it it's an

Brian Atlasexchange you do something that maybe obviously you wouldn't be doing otherwise to get money so you can provide um but if I guess the Crux of the question is if some scenario where one

Brian Atlaspartner in this case a woman could come into your like would be able to provide to the point where one partner or both Partners didn't have to be wage

Brian Atlasslaves then like we're all slaves to the money and then we die and I personally don't find that all that

Priyafulfilling but go ahead but I I think that given that scenario that you did like meet and marry this is where she is and neither of you had to work maybe she wouldn't maybe she'd

Priyastay at home with with the kids and that that obviously like gives her like fulfillment and purpose but I think for the man you'd probably especially if you're financially able you would still

Priyafind some other type of work that you felt fulfilled by and it probably wouldn't be as like vigorous and like labor intensive because you had that Financial stability and the ability to

Brian Atlasdo that and with the resources that you have but you would still find something to direct your efforts to that you felt was a contribution to society sure uh okay let's move on people I think the chat's really bored with this one all

Brian Atlasright Stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten starting with you go ahead nine uh seven like physical yeah just your physical

Ariellooks your looks like right now one to ten yeah okay maybe like a seven then I'm not ready myself come on I did it rain myself last time I didn't rate you

Brian AtlasI'm not gonna rate myself or anyone else all right what's up what you got six like a six I'd say seven 6.57

Molly Littlemaybe myself six all right there you go Stiffler what I'm just confused on why like all the pretty ladies here are devaluing

Molly Littlethemselves it's not like devaluing ourselves no but like I think every person on this panel is at least an eight I think it's interesting that women are expected to

Priyaundervalue the way that they look in order to sound humble they don't think it's an under evaluation I think it's it's being realistic there's I mean there's objective standards of like Beauty and

Masongood in this world and you know it's it's not a bad thing or like an insecure thing to be realistic about that obviously I I think we could both agree that looks aren't everything but it is

Masonworthy to note that looks are important when it comes to dating yeah um so there are people who don't have that 10 out of 10 look and we could probably both agree that there's people that are

Masonmore attractive and people are less attractive but I have to recognize that those people and I mean everybody here is created in the image of God so there

Masonis inherent value that is found in you and I can't disregard that but looks wise not everyone looks the same we all come in a bunch of sizes shapes and

Molly Littlecolors and that's beautiful but not everyone's perfect looking I mean like I just I don't even know everyone's perfect looking then that has

Carlyto do with like what is the ideal version of what a perfect person looks like well biologically there are things that human beings can deem as what's more attractive and less attractive and I think you can realistically rate yourself on a scale

Brian AtlasI don't think it's yeah I don't think it's necessarily undervaluing oh yeah number one okay all right did we read this one I don't think we did yet okay Moga hey thank you man

Brian Atlasappreciate it if Society needs to be fixed what is better option shaming the sex workers or two shaming The Sims who pay for the content my take is two I agree two

PriyaI say one I say both yeah both well I don't think I guess if you have to pick one though if you had to if I had to pick one cut it off at the root yeah to be honest yeah if there was nobody making the

Priyacontent there would be no content too because some people would go out and do it in real life and that can get dangerous

Molly Littlewait people in general have fetishes and a lot of those fetishes people are nervous or embarrassed to outwardly portray those fetishes right they're they're nervous that they're going to be

Molly Littlerejected because that fetish is weird it's taboo so they look to porn to live out that fetish and if porn doesn't exist people will go do it in real life it's

Priyaactually the opposite porn contributes sorry no it's okay porn contributes to these so-called fetishes if like if that content weren't out there half these people wouldn't understand that they had

Masonthese fetishes yeah it is yeah highly accurate I think it works in the in the if porn didn't exist there would be less

Masonfetishization of sex yeah absolutely but the occurrences in where somebody had a weirder sexual preference you should be able to discuss that with your spouse

Masonand come to a agreement like are you comfortable with that and I I will love my spouse and I will try to cater to

Masonwhat they enjoy because I am not I'm not called to be selfish in a relationship I am mostly called to be selfless so if my spouse desires something like

MasonI'm gonna try to accommodate and I would hope I would hope that it's reciprocal I'll say this you did you want to come in really quicker you're good I mean I was just gonna say that while I

Carlyam um very much anti-sex work and um only fans coming soon no no no no no okay no don't put that

Carlyidea in people's lives no God no no well I am very anti-sex work um I do believe that shaming sex workers I wouldn't say contributes to the

Priyaproblem but it's not really getting anybody anywhere if there was that consumerism is a huge issue on top of and I'm not trying to like I mean I obviously don't condone that that

Priyaindustry whatsoever I'm not doing this to like personally shame anybody but I like if you just yeah exactly if you cut it off at the at the feet there's no content to consume well do you think

Carlythat you I mean it's just in in context yeah in the context of the question yeah but in the context of that question if you had to choose one or the other you think that shaming sex workers not necessarily getting rid of sex work as a whole because I agree that would be the

Masonbest option you know shaming sex workers is the better option well sure I mean I didn't yeah I guess the articulation if you could get rid of sex work entirely yeah for sure that's obvious and the context of question I think I would

Masonrather the verbiage be we should shame the act and not the I mean the person is committing the act so you can't be devoid of responsibility but the act in itself we should totally say is it

Molly Littlehorrendous Decay on society that needs to be stopped your response to the the Decay on society that needs to be stopped um I think porn is a byproduct of our society

Brian Atlasokay one thing really quick earlier you mentioned something about uh or I don't know if it was Priya in response to something she said that well porn is actually what create I think it was preo

Brian Atlasporn creates a lot of these Kinks and I don't know I'll say this maybe it's not even porn it's just like other kinds of forms of social media content well absolutely I mean let me just finish let me just

Brian Atlasfinish um so okay I've been having sex since the Bush Administration son what year was that oh seven oh my goodness I'm an old

Brian Atlasman here I'm an old man I've been having sex since the Bush Administration and I don't know what happened in like 2012 2013 but

Brian Atlasall of a sudden I'll know what shifted all these want to be choked I don't know what's going on all y'all want to be choked what the is going on it went from like wholesome intimate sex

Brian Atlasto like choke me Daddy I'm like I'm trying to choke you son I mean I'll do a little bit but okay is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a

Brian Atlasdo you know what I mean yeah horn contributes to y'all want to be choked what the no no it was like one day it was like one day nobody wanted to be choked the next day choke

Carlyme daddy do you want to know like what has contributed to things like that yeah I'm confused what you're asking like obviously BDSM has become normalized because of porn like exactly and the normalization

Brian Atlasuh how to do a gentle choke I'm not trying to do like asphyxiation like you want to actually start passing out and way to choke someone sexually it's actually

Molly Littleyou don't choke them you don't like like the wind out of them but you know it's a blood choke yeah you like cut off the bed over here and it like creates this like effect in your head where you feel kind of it creates an effect in your head where you feel kind

Brian Atlasof like dizzy almost yeah yeah you're cutting blood circulation yeah it feels really good because it heightens all your other Sensations well there's there's degrees to it some girls just want a hand on

Brian Atlastheir neck some girls actually want to be on the verge of passing out some girls want to pass out yeah yeah I'm good I'm gonna pass on that I'm not trying to catch a case yeah for your

Masonsexual gratification I'm sorry lady yeah I mean just if we look in history we've seen the decline of pretty much most civilizations has been

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